| ndw28 | why is there a vault in kubuntu. Isn't an encrypted FS or ext4 good enough to keep things secure? | 01:26 |
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| ndw28 | I guess that vault *is* encrypted FS: CryFS and EncFS | 01:27 |
| ndw28 | when all else fails - sneaker net it | 01:27 |
| Unit193 | 'vault' is meant to be a frontend to those things, yes? (Also will be/is adding gocryptfs support.) | 01:28 |
| ndw28 | Has anyone read Crypto by Steven Levy? | 01:30 |
| ndw28 | Unit193: ok | 01:30 |
| proctrap | ndw28: use veracrypt if you want cross platform encrypted vaults / disks | 01:40 |
| ndw28 | proctrap: interesting.. virtualization and encryption | 01:47 |
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| BluesKaj | 'Morning all | 09:34 |
| * jubo2 does the new release dance | 11:23 | |
| jubo2 | I assume this is the official guide to upgrading -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BionicUpgrades/Kubuntu | 11:23 |
| acheronuk | jubo2: community docs, but yes | 11:29 |
| jubo2 | Bahh.. not enough space on /-partition | 11:34 |
| jubo2 | and someone said 15GB is enough | 11:34 |
| jubo2 | that is probably true if you make a partition for /usr | 11:34 |
| jubo2 | my /-partition is 20GB and I've already cleaned out the old kernels and still missing 1.3GB to perform the distribution upgrade | 11:35 |
| jubo2 | Should I resize partitions? | 11:35 |
| jubo2 | I better do that with Gparted since KDE Partition Manager is a tad bit buggy | 11:36 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, 20GB should be plenty for /, unless you have a lot of apps installed after the defaults | 11:37 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: Is it possible to move the contents of the /-partition to the other partition if the other partition is mounted as /home ? | 11:38 |
| jubo2 | I regret making a distinct /-partition and I've already forgot why it is recommended by some | 11:38 |
| BluesKaj | no | 11:38 |
| jubo2 | Ok so resize? | 11:38 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, run df -h and pastebin it, so we can have a look | 11:39 |
| jubo2 | okays | 11:39 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: https://paste.debian.net/1035820/ | 11:40 |
| BluesKaj | wow jubo2 , what have you got in / that uses so much space? | 11:41 |
| jubo2 | I dunno exactly | 11:42 |
| jubo2 | the 17.10 does not remove old kernels automatically but I cleaned out those already with Synaptic | 11:43 |
| BluesKaj | I have a full compliment of apps in / and it's only using 9.6 GB of 16 | 11:44 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, run sudo apt-get autoremove then, sudo apt-get autoclean | 11:45 |
| jubo2 | okays | 11:45 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: those removed nothing | 11:46 |
| jubo2 | This OS was originally 17.04 which I upgraded to 17.10 .. maybe something is broken | 11:46 |
| BluesKaj | ok, then you must have a lot of apps installed that I don't | 11:47 |
| BluesKaj | suggest you add at least 5GB to your / partition | 11:48 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: Gparted? | 11:48 |
| BluesKaj | yup | 11:48 |
| BluesKaj | live media | 11:48 |
| jubo2 | I boot to the USB stick and then do it? | 11:48 |
| jubo2 | s/to/from/ | 11:48 |
| BluesKaj | usb, cd, dvd, whatever will boot | 11:49 |
| jubo2 | I better get a list of all installed apps and put that in a safe place.. just in case this goes belly-up | 11:49 |
| acheronuk | ncdu -x / | 11:50 |
| acheronuk | should allow you to find out where the space is taken up | 11:50 |
| jubo2 | If I list the installations with 'dpkg --get-selections' I can later on feed that list to apt-get to get all the programs back if the system breaks on the partition resizing or something. Right? | 11:51 |
| acheronuk | fwiw, my /usr is 12.8 GB | 11:52 |
| acheronuk | /var is 10.1 GB | 11:53 |
| acheronuk | I need a clean out | 11:53 |
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| jubo2 | acheronuk: running 'ncdu -x /' now | 11:54 |
| acheronuk | you could also have something like a small hardware error spamming a log file constantly, making it huge | 11:54 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, what are you afraid of, sudo do-release-upgrade should run just fine , as long as you update and upgrade your exsiting packages first | 11:55 |
| jubo2 | everything is up-to-date now | 11:55 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: I'm afraid the resizing partitions could go wrong | 11:56 |
| acheronuk | wow. apt-cacher-ng is using 6.7 GB in /var/cache/ | 11:57 |
| BluesKaj | think you may want to check acheronuk 's suggestion about a hardware error | 11:57 |
| * acheronuk cleans that | 11:57 | |
| acheronuk | can be many things. I wondered where space went a while back, and it was a 15 GB lxd zfs pool that it puts on the root partition by default | 11:58 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: acheronuk: Here is the output of 'ncdu -x /' https://paste.debian.net/1035822/ | 11:59 |
| acheronuk | jubo2: you can navigate to the subfolders with ncdu :) | 11:59 |
| jubo2 | Something weird maybe.. the kernel stuff is showing 0.0B | 11:59 |
| jubo2 | acheronuk: oh cool | 11:59 |
| jubo2 | I better store this command in my command-cheat-sheet.txt | 12:00 |
| jubo2 | maybe running the ncdu without root privileges stops it from looking at the kernel-y places | 12:01 |
| acheronuk | qdirstat is a graphical sort of equivalent :) | 12:02 |
| jubo2 | Stored. Thank you acheronuk for the tip | 12:03 |
| jubo2 | I go boot from the Kubuntu 18.04.1 stick and resize the partitions to give /-partition some space | 12:05 |
| jubo2 | It's ok to use the 18.04.1 to resize partitions of a 17.10, right? | 12:05 |
| jubo2 | I boot from stick now. Bye. | 12:07 |
| jubo-on-a-stick | ok.. gonna resize the partitions now | 12:12 |
| jubo-on-a-stick | I better not mess this up | 12:12 |
| BluesKaj | I still don't see what could be taking up so much space | 12:13 |
| jubo-on-a-stick | oh crap. /dev/sda1 is "extended" and /dev/sda5 which is mounted as /-partition is in there meanwhile /dev/sda2 is not | 12:13 |
| jubo-on-a-stick | BluesKaj: me neither.. the 'ncdu' found only 10GB of stuff | 12:14 |
| jubo-on-a-stick | but it was probably due to that I run it as a normal user | 12:14 |
| jubo-on-a-stick | .. so it could not see the kernel related places. Maybe.. | 12:15 |
| BluesKaj | what makes you think that, I ran that command as root and found no difference at all | 12:16 |
| BluesKaj | not as root but with root permissions rather | 12:16 |
| jubo-on-a-stick | so /dev/sda5 (mounted as the /-partition) is under /dev/sda1 (which is marked as type "extended") .. is this going to work if I reduce the size of the /home-partition and then grow the /dev/sda1 and then grow the /dev/sda5 ? | 12:17 |
| jubo-on-a-stick | I try. Got full backups of everything essential.. I think.. | 12:19 |
| * jubo-on-a-stick crosses fingers and hits "apply" in Gparted | 12:21 | |
| jubo-on-a-stick | Okays.. this is gonna take a while. Estimate is 2 hrs for copying 300GB | 12:23 |
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| jubo-on-a-stick | Ok... root partition is now bigger | 14:58 |
| jubo-on-a-stick | I think it gonna fail to boot.. there was a warning that if you do something to the partition where /boot is then that may lead to non-booting state but there are ways to fix it | 14:59 |
| jubo-on-a-stick | I'll just try booting first and if it doesn't work then I need to boot back to this USB stick | 14:59 |
| jubo2 | nah.. startup just fine after resizing partitions | 15:04 |
| jubo2 | now.. 'sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade' and 'sudo do-distribution-upgrade' <- was this the right command btw? | 15:04 |
| BluesKaj | sudo do-release-upgrade, jubo2 | 15:07 |
| jubo2 | thanks BluesKaj. now running it | 15:07 |
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| TBotNik | All: Kubuntu 16.04 LTS has totally trashed itself Tried the Live DVD to restore but there is no restore/recovery on mine. Where do I get a live dvd with recovery? | 15:39 |
| genii | There is no specific "Recovery" option on liveDVD/USB. You just boot up into the live system and use that to figure out and fix issues, installing whatever tools may be required into the live-running system | 15:47 |
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| TBotNik | genii: Thanks! Never had to do it that way before. I have no cmd line or anything. Only have Dolphin and learning how to call all apps, etc from there! | 16:15 |
| TBotNik | genii: My Kernal seems to be in tack, but the desktop is totally destroyed. About a week ago, I did nothing, but the system assigned "Desktop" to the "Start" icon and erased all icons on my systems panel. Then last week, again I did nothing, the system completely erased the entire panel. If I can't fix this before 3pm today, I'll be on Debian and will never come back to any flavor of Ubuntu. They took all the dev capabilitiy | 16:28 |
| TBotNik | off 16.04 and it's totally useless, except as a "Windows for Dummies" user! We on Linux want nothing to look like, smell like, act like Windows. Windows is 20 years behind and will never catch up! | 16:28 |
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| jubo2 | reboot for 17.10 -> 18.04.1 upgrade | 18:43 |
| jubo2 | .. to finish it | 18:43 |
| jubo2 | Yeay! | 18:43 |
| diogenes_ | will he come back :) that's the question | 18:47 |
| jubo2 | I like 18.04.1 .. looks cooler than ever before | 18:50 |
| acheronuk | :) | 18:59 |
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| genii | Hm | 19:48 |
| TBotNik | Sorry guys! Had to go pull some cables. | 20:06 |
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| o_a | Hello. I have an issue when switching screens of windows. Sometimes the windows get horizontally squashed. Does anyone else have the same problem? | 20:37 |
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| marcony | hey guys, how is a going? | 22:44 |
| marcony | anybody alive? :D | 22:44 |
| genii | marcony: It's prety slow in here today, but if you have some support question, just ask it in the channel and someone may offer a solution | 22:45 |
| genii | If you have no support questions, then the channel #kubuntu-offtopic is more appropriate for casual talk | 22:46 |
| marcony | thanks | 22:46 |
| * genii gets everyone fresh coffee | 22:46 | |
| Unit193 | Ooooh, good plan! | 22:47 |
| Unit193 | ...Wrong channel. | 22:47 |
| genii | heh | 22:48 |
| Klinda | hi marcony :) | 23:00 |
| marcony | oo Klinda how are you? :) | 23:03 |
| Klinda | fine marcony and you? | 23:11 |
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| marcony | me perfect :D where are you from Klinda? | 23:17 |
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