[01:26] why is there a vault in kubuntu. Isn't an encrypted FS or ext4 good enough to keep things secure? [01:27] I guess that vault *is* encrypted FS: CryFS and EncFS [01:27] when all else fails - sneaker net it [01:28] 'vault' is meant to be a frontend to those things, yes? (Also will be/is adding gocryptfs support.) [01:30] Has anyone read Crypto by Steven Levy? [01:30] Unit193: ok [01:40] ndw28: use veracrypt if you want cross platform encrypted vaults / disks [01:47] proctrap: interesting.. virtualization and encryption === chris_ is now known as odla [06:12] AbchGQpPKtPx6 was added by: AbchGQpPKtPx6 [07:07] XSMelwEVzSEp2 was added by: XSMelwEVzSEp2 === RaphGro is now known as RaphGroHS === himcesjf_ is now known as him-cesjf [09:34] 'Morning all [11:23] * jubo2 does the new release dance [11:23] I assume this is the official guide to upgrading -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BionicUpgrades/Kubuntu [11:29] jubo2: community docs, but yes [11:34] Bahh.. not enough space on /-partition [11:34] and someone said 15GB is enough [11:34] that is probably true if you make a partition for /usr [11:35] my /-partition is 20GB and I've already cleaned out the old kernels and still missing 1.3GB to perform the distribution upgrade [11:35] Should I resize partitions? [11:36] I better do that with Gparted since KDE Partition Manager is a tad bit buggy [11:37] jubo2, 20GB should be plenty for /, unless you have a lot of apps installed after the defaults [11:38] BluesKaj: Is it possible to move the contents of the /-partition to the other partition if the other partition is mounted as /home ? [11:38] I regret making a distinct /-partition and I've already forgot why it is recommended by some [11:38] no [11:38] Ok so resize? [11:39] jubo2, run df -h and pastebin it, so we can have a look [11:39] okays [11:40] BluesKaj: https://paste.debian.net/1035820/ [11:41] wow jubo2 , what have you got in / that uses so much space? [11:42] I dunno exactly [11:43] the 17.10 does not remove old kernels automatically but I cleaned out those already with Synaptic [11:44] I have a full compliment of apps in / and it's only using 9.6 GB of 16 [11:45] jubo2, run sudo apt-get autoremove then, sudo apt-get autoclean [11:45] okays [11:46] BluesKaj: those removed nothing [11:46] This OS was originally 17.04 which I upgraded to 17.10 .. maybe something is broken [11:47] ok, then you must have a lot of apps installed that I don't [11:48] suggest you add at least 5GB to your / partition [11:48] BluesKaj: Gparted? [11:48] yup [11:48] live media [11:48] I boot to the USB stick and then do it? [11:48] s/to/from/ [11:49] usb, cd, dvd, whatever will boot [11:49] I better get a list of all installed apps and put that in a safe place.. just in case this goes belly-up [11:50] ncdu -x / [11:50] should allow you to find out where the space is taken up [11:51] If I list the installations with 'dpkg --get-selections' I can later on feed that list to apt-get to get all the programs back if the system breaks on the partition resizing or something. Right? [11:52] fwiw, my /usr is 12.8 GB [11:53] /var is 10.1 GB [11:53] I need a clean out === Tin_man is now known as Guest33307 [11:54] acheronuk: running 'ncdu -x /' now [11:54] you could also have something like a small hardware error spamming a log file constantly, making it huge [11:55] jubo2, what are you afraid of, sudo do-release-upgrade should run just fine , as long as you update and upgrade your exsiting packages first [11:55] everything is up-to-date now [11:56] BluesKaj: I'm afraid the resizing partitions could go wrong [11:57] wow. apt-cacher-ng is using 6.7 GB in /var/cache/ [11:57] think you may want to check acheronuk 's suggestion about a hardware error [11:57] * acheronuk cleans that [11:58] can be many things. I wondered where space went a while back, and it was a 15 GB lxd zfs pool that it puts on the root partition by default [11:59] BluesKaj: acheronuk: Here is the output of 'ncdu -x /' https://paste.debian.net/1035822/ [11:59] jubo2: you can navigate to the subfolders with ncdu :) [11:59] Something weird maybe.. the kernel stuff is showing 0.0B [11:59] acheronuk: oh cool [12:00] I better store this command in my command-cheat-sheet.txt [12:01] maybe running the ncdu without root privileges stops it from looking at the kernel-y places [12:02] qdirstat is a graphical sort of equivalent :) [12:03] Stored. Thank you acheronuk for the tip [12:05] I go boot from the Kubuntu 18.04.1 stick and resize the partitions to give /-partition some space [12:05] It's ok to use the 18.04.1 to resize partitions of a 17.10, right? [12:07] I boot from stick now. Bye. [12:12] ok.. gonna resize the partitions now [12:12] I better not mess this up [12:13] I still don't see what could be taking up so much space [12:13] oh crap. /dev/sda1 is "extended" and /dev/sda5 which is mounted as /-partition is in there meanwhile /dev/sda2 is not [12:14] BluesKaj: me neither.. the 'ncdu' found only 10GB of stuff [12:14] but it was probably due to that I run it as a normal user [12:15] .. so it could not see the kernel related places. Maybe.. [12:16] what makes you think that, I ran that command as root and found no difference at all [12:16] not as root but with root permissions rather [12:17] so /dev/sda5 (mounted as the /-partition) is under /dev/sda1 (which is marked as type "extended") .. is this going to work if I reduce the size of the /home-partition and then grow the /dev/sda1 and then grow the /dev/sda5 ? [12:19] I try. Got full backups of everything essential.. I think.. [12:21] * jubo-on-a-stick crosses fingers and hits "apply" in Gparted [12:23] Okays.. this is gonna take a while. Estimate is 2 hrs for copying 300GB === klinda is now known as Klinda === RaphGro is now known as RaphGroHS === klinda is now known as Klinda [14:58] Ok... root partition is now bigger [14:59] I think it gonna fail to boot.. there was a warning that if you do something to the partition where /boot is then that may lead to non-booting state but there are ways to fix it [14:59] I'll just try booting first and if it doesn't work then I need to boot back to this USB stick [15:04] nah.. startup just fine after resizing partitions [15:04] now.. 'sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade' and 'sudo do-distribution-upgrade' <- was this the right command btw? [15:07] sudo do-release-upgrade, jubo2 [15:07] thanks BluesKaj. now running it [15:17] NUVmiXNOcUUY2 was added by: NUVmiXNOcUUY2 [15:39] All: Kubuntu 16.04 LTS has totally trashed itself Tried the Live DVD to restore but there is no restore/recovery on mine. Where do I get a live dvd with recovery? [15:47] There is no specific "Recovery" option on liveDVD/USB. You just boot up into the live system and use that to figure out and fix issues, installing whatever tools may be required into the live-running system [16:14] SkeletonSteff was added by: SkeletonSteff [16:15] genii: Thanks! Never had to do it that way before. I have no cmd line or anything. Only have Dolphin and learning how to call all apps, etc from there! [16:28] genii: My Kernal seems to be in tack, but the desktop is totally destroyed. About a week ago, I did nothing, but the system assigned "Desktop" to the "Start" icon and erased all icons on my systems panel. Then last week, again I did nothing, the system completely erased the entire panel. If I can't fix this before 3pm today, I'll be on Debian and will never come back to any flavor of Ubuntu. They took all the dev capabilitiy [16:28] off 16.04 and it's totally useless, except as a "Windows for Dummies" user! We on Linux want nothing to look like, smell like, act like Windows. Windows is 20 years behind and will never catch up! [17:09] ╋VX(QQ):253239090【电报群增粉(国内外)(有无username)均可】【群发私聊广告精准直达】【机器人定制】【社群代运营】【twitter,facebook关注、转发】【youtube点赞,评论】【出售成品电报账号】（欢迎社群运营者、项目方、交易所洽谈合作）优质空投分享QQ群473157472 本工作室全网价格最低、服务最好、质量最高诚招代理 (stockcraft at hotmail.com)We can [17:09] by: ╋VX(QQ):253239090【电报群增粉(国内外)(有无username)均可】【群发私聊广告精准直达】【机器人定制】【社群代运营】【twitter,facebook关注、转发】【youtube点赞,评论】【出售成品电报账号】（欢迎社群运营者、项目方、交易所洽谈合作）优质空投分享QQ群473157472 本工作室全网价格最低、服务最好、质量最高诚招代理 (stockcraft at hotmail.com)We [18:43] reboot for 17.10 -> 18.04.1 upgrade [18:43] .. to finish it [18:43] Yeay! [18:47] will he come back :) that's the question [18:50] I like 18.04.1 .. looks cooler than ever before [18:59] :) [19:35] abaXDbecfduf5 was added by: abaXDbecfduf5 [19:48] Hm [20:06] Sorry guys! Had to go pull some cables. === svetlana is now known as Sveta [20:37] Hello. I have an issue when switching screens of windows. Sometimes the windows get horizontally squashed. Does anyone else have the same problem? [21:24] UBoTdZYsyOim9 was added by: UBoTdZYsyOim9 [22:44] hey guys, how is a going? [22:44] anybody alive? :D [22:45] marcony: It's prety slow in here today, but if you have some support question, just ask it in the channel and someone may offer a solution [22:46] If you have no support questions, then the channel #kubuntu-offtopic is more appropriate for casual talk [22:46] thanks [22:46] * genii gets everyone fresh coffee [22:47] Ooooh, good plan! [22:47] ...Wrong channel. [22:48] heh [23:00] hi marcony :) [23:03] oo Klinda how are you? :) [23:11] fine marcony and you? 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