[00:02] <Woodpecker> Uhhhh, my computer hiccuped, restarted it, and now a bunch of my default settings are gone, and an extremely important folder in my home directory has been completely removed.
[00:02] <Woodpecker> What is the command for trying to recover a directory?
[00:02] <Woodpecker> im on btrfs.
[00:05] <IntelCore> superuser.com/questions/892522/btrfs-restore-specific-directory
[00:07] <IntelCore> You can also use -D|--dry-run to verify exactly what will be restored.
[00:08] <cbpye> Success at last!
[00:09] <vultyre> In 17.10 and earlier, there was an option to enable the "shell user-theme" extension under the Extensions section of Gnome-Tweak-Tool. This is gone in 18.04. Does anyone know what I can do to get it back?
[00:10] <vultyre> Here is how it looks in 18.04: https://imgur.com/a/qaRPKqi
[00:10] <IntelCore> superuser.com/questions/992961/how-to-undelete-a-directory-on-btrfs-multi-disk-volume
[00:12] <IntelCore> vultyre - that extension might not be an ubuntu one.
[00:13] <IntelCore> it might be gnome tho
[00:14] <IntelCore> 18.04 gave us a new gnome. All gnome or lightDM
[00:16] <IntelCore> Open Gnome Tweak Tool . Click on the Extensions menu item, and move the User themes slider to On . Close Gnome Tweak Tool and open it again.
[00:18] <IntelCore>  in the Extensions panel of GNOME Tweak Tool, you may need to install it from extensions.gnome.org. Restart the tweak tool after installing.
[00:20] <jeffrey> good night, how do i change my ip?
[00:21] <IntelCore> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2017/05/enable-shell-theme-in-gnome-tweak-tool-in-ubuntu/
[00:21] <IntelCore> change?
[00:21] <jeffrey> yes
[00:22] <IntelCore> you not buy that ip?
[00:22] <oerheks> your providers ip, or your router ip?
[00:22] <vultyre> IntelCore, thanks. I was able to install it by installing the package 'chrome-gnome-shell' and then activating the extension at https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/19/user-themes/.
[00:22] <IntelCore> right
[00:22] <IntelCore> 10-4 vultyre
[00:24] <IntelCore> vultyre - you might get a residual if you tried to put a couple extensions, and one won't work, broken, go back to gnome to set
[00:24] <IntelCore> gone fer a cola
[00:24] <jeffrey> I have done it with a program in windows, I want to do it in Linux
[00:25] <IntelCore> release a net ip?
[00:26] <jeffrey> I change my ip for one of another country
[00:26] <jeffrey> yes
[00:26] <oerheks> networkmanager can do... wait, another country?
[00:26] <IntelCore> spoofing? not here this ubuntu
[00:26] <jeffrey> like a masquerader
[00:27] <oerheks> if you want a cloak on #freenode, join that channel
[00:27] <IntelCore> undernet does similar
[00:28] <IntelCore> l8tr
[00:28] <jeffrey> I'm going to look networkmanager
[00:28] <jeffrey> ty
[00:33] <ubuntu_wireless> Hello i have a Hp laptop my wireless has very strong signal with windows but really low with ubuntu why is this
[00:34] <vultyre> ubuntu_wireless, what's the model of your laptop?
[00:34] <nugroho> Hewlett Packard ZBOOK
[00:34] <vultyre> Not just the name, but the full model number
[00:36] <vultyre> Or the wireless adapter if you know that
[00:37] <leftyfb> ubuntu_wireless: type this into a terminal : lspci|grep "Network controller"
[00:39] <ubuntu_wireless> wireless      Realtek RTL8723BE
[00:39] <terrapin> hi, im on 18.04. I have a nvidia 940mx. I install nvidia-390 and the module fails to load. Plus nvidia-settings will not open. I know a lot of people are having issues with this. Is there a guided tour on how to fix this?
[00:42] <terrapin> iv google for a solution to no avail.
[00:44] <leftyfb> terrapin: try nvidia-384
[00:44] <terrapin> 384 installs 390 actually. and 390 fails to load
[00:44] <terrapin> i have tried that route
[00:45] <leftyfb> sorry, that's all I got. I don't have 18.04 running on anything with nvidia
[00:45] <ubuntu_wireless> HP 14-am019la 14" Laptop PC Core i3-5005U 2.0GHz 8GB RAM
[00:45] <terrapin> oh, i see
[00:46] <terrapin> my laptop is a hybrid, i have intel and nvidia graphic chips
[00:46] <leftyfb> ubuntu_wireless: type this into a terminal : lspci|grep "Network controller"
[00:46] <terrapin> its one of those dels
[00:46] <terrapin> deals
[00:46] <oerheks> vhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/872931/how-to-make-wifi-signal-stronger-on-ubuntu-16-04-lts-with-realtek-rtl8723be
[00:47] <oerheks> might work for 18.04 too
[00:47] <oerheks> "It may help to substitute ant_sel=1 to ant_sel=2."
[00:47] <ubuntu_wireless> is it a driver issue
[00:48] <oerheks> jups, a vendor that does not comply with opensource
[00:49] <ubuntu_wireless> hmmm very unfortunate why would they do that
[00:49] <leftyfb> ubuntu_wireless: type this into a terminal : lspci|grep "Network controller"
[00:49] <terrapin> Nvidia driver installs but does not load on ubuntu 18.04
[00:50] <IntelCore> intel 5500?
[00:50] <ubuntu_wireless> leftyfb: i have already done it
[00:50] <leftyfb> ubuntu_wireless: and what did it saY?
[00:50] <IntelCore> u put the nvidia in tha laptop?
[00:51] <terrapin> no, my laptop is a hybrid, it comes with both an intel and nvidia chip
[00:51] <IntelCore> kool
[00:51] <terrapin> so i can use bumblebee
[00:51] <terrapin> but nvidia fails to load on boot
[00:51] <terrapin> moduale
[00:52] <IntelCore> hp laptop?
[00:52] <terrapin> bumbleee allows kernel to offload to the intel graphic chip without rebooting to save battert
[00:52] <IntelCore> get updates on hp website?
[00:52] <terrapin> i have an HP envy
[00:53] <ubuntu_wireless> i tried the command ant sel=2 and it worked wifi has strong signal
[00:53] <IntelCore> wull I envy you
[00:53] <leftyfb> ubuntu_wireless: What does it say when you type this into a terminal? : lspci|grep "Network controller"
[00:53] <terrapin> bumblebee has not been updated in years, possibly abandoned.
[00:54] <ubuntu_wireless> with the quotations on network controller as well
[00:55] <leftyfb> ubuntu_wireless: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1032099/how-do-i-get-realtek-rtl8723be-wireless-card-to-work-on-18-04
[00:55] <IntelCore> rtl8188ee
[00:55] <ubuntu_wireless> 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
[00:55] <leftyfb> IntelCore: I didn't ask you
[00:55] <IntelCore> lool
[00:57] <Shmam> After switching to the nvidia proprietary drivers on ubuntu 18.04, I cant get into the system. It boots up, shows the ubuntu loader and then goes black. I cant see it on my router so I dont think it was able to start up properly
[01:02] <ubuntu_wireless> shmam: try this     https://askubuntu.com/questions/760374/ubuntu-16-04-nvidia-driver-blank-screen
[01:06] <Guest82547> hello peeps, anyone know how to generate htoprc file in my home folder
[01:07] <IntelCore> Ran a partial install, am i done?
[01:11] <IntelCore> hadda manually set sources to bionic
[01:11] <IntelCore> 3k files later
[01:11] <IntelCore> the new and old kernels on grub
[01:12] <Guest82547> even catfish can't find anything like htoprc
[01:20] <Shmam> @ubuntu_wireless So I got back into the system and found out that dpkg encountered errors while processing libnvidia-gl-390:i386
[01:20] <fred1807> how do I upgrade pango on Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
[01:22] <lwkey> Is it possible to use multiple usb drives in a hub as a 1 drive to install and run ubuntu?
[01:24] <oerheks> !info pango1.0 trusty
[01:25] <oerheks> if you want newer, build it yourself? https://github.com/GNOME/pango
[01:25] <lequestion> does anybody know how to download logs from a specific moment of time to another?
[01:25] <lequestion> lol
[01:26] <k_sze[work]> Has 18.04.1 been released?
[01:26] <IntelCore> yes
[01:27] <k_sze[work]> odd. I see don't get it when I do `do-release-upgrade` in 16.04
[01:27] <IntelCore> upgrade is like 3 k files
[01:27] <IntelCore> force it, or change repository to bionic
[01:27] <leftyfb> lequestion: https://superuser.com/questions/439688/how-to-grep-a-log-file-within-a-specific-time-period  # top google result when searching for "linux grep time range"
[01:28] <leftyfb> IntelCore: that's not the best advice
[01:28] <IntelCore> nope
[01:28] <k_sze[work]> IntelCore: I thought `do-release-upgrade` is supposed to detect the availability of the new release without me forcing it.
[01:28] <leftyfb> k_sze[work]: tried "sudo apt update" ?
[01:28] <IntelCore> true ipossed tot is s
[01:28] <k_sze[work]> And without changing the repositories.
[01:28] <k_sze[work]> leftyfb: I did.
[01:29] <leftyfb> k_sze[work]: which mirror are you using?
[01:29] <IntelCore> yes it spossed to
[01:29] <k_sze[work]> mirror.xtom.com.hk
[01:29] <leftyfb> k_sze[work]: try using the official mirror
[01:29] <k_sze[work]> ok
[01:29] <leftyfb> k_sze[work]: archive.ubuntu.com
[01:29] <k_sze[work]> Thanks
[01:30] <IntelCore> but i got bionic so, it's kool
[01:32] <IntelCore> does sysprof actually save the profile?
[01:34] <IntelCore> no, you have to menu to save-as
[01:35] <k_sze[work]> Nope, still no new release found.
[01:35] <k_sze[work]> meh
[01:36] <lwkey> What is the minimum space requirements for 1604. Google says 25gb but i dont believe that to be true
[01:37] <lwkey> Hardrive space.. sorry
[01:38] <k_sze[work]> lwkey: it's not an absolute requirement. It's more like a recommendation
[01:42] <k_sze[work]> lwkey: for reference, I currently have an installation of 16.04 that uses less than 15 GiB, excluding /home/
[01:45] <lwkey> Im assuming i cant use a single gb. I was originally trying to make a bootable raid.. or even use an old phone if either is possible?
[01:47] <k_sze[work]> lwkey: https://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2018/02/rfc-ubuntu-1804-lts-minimal-images.html
[01:47] <leftyfb> lwkey: this is for a phone? If so, that's completely unsupported here
[01:49] <lwkey> No its for my laptop, but i was thinking i could use an old phone as a hardrive
[01:50] <leftyfb> for what purpose?
[01:50] <leftyfb> Still unsupported, but I don't see the point
[01:51] <lwkey> I only have a live cd and no hardrive or big enough pen drives
[01:53] <leftyfb> lwkey: you have a computer with no hard drive? How are you online now? You can't buy a hard drive?
[01:54] <causative> I'm having a weird issue with my top status bar in 18.04, looks like this:  https://i.imgur.com/EXIosQA.png  you can see there is a lot of blank space in the middle causing the time and date to be pushed off the screen
[01:55] <causative> how can I investigate this?
[01:55] <causative> it also gradually gets worse the longer the computer is running, initially it is displayed OK but after it's been running for a few days it is pushed off, eventually the other icons at top right will be pushed off too
[01:59] <Shmam> Is nvidia-driver-390 the updated version of nvidia-384? Why are the package name structures different?
[02:02] <Lord-Kamina> So... just upgraded to Bionic...
[02:02] <Lord-Kamina> Anybody know how to fix "The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file has an unsupported filetype."?
[02:04] <vultyre> Shmam, yes, it's the updated version. I can't find anything about why the name was changed, but just make sure you run 'ubuntu-drivers devices' and install the recommended driver for your device
[02:04] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-390 bionic
[02:04] <Shmam> wait what does 'ubuntu-drivers devices' do?
[02:05] <Shmam> I just installed the nvidia drivers via apt then rebooted but it seems like it didn't work properly
[02:06] <Shmam> I'm getting insufficientcuda driver: 9010 with ethminer
[02:06] <vultyre> It will list the available drivers for your devices. For example, running it on my computer gives the following output: https://pastebin.com/3iG7q9G8
[02:06] <Shmam> which doesnt make sense if this is the newest driver version
[02:06] <vultyre> The newest driver isn't always the correct one for your GPU
[02:06] <vultyre> Sometimes you need an older one
[02:08] <Shmam> ok my ubuntu-drivers devices shows this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rCtYJRhK5y/
[02:08] <Shmam> so should I apt purge nvidia* and then try one of the older ones maybe?
[02:09] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-driver-390 bionic
[02:09] <vultyre> I guess not. The 1070 definitely supports 390
[02:09] <Shmam> yeah I would think s
[02:10] <Shmam> maybe they restructured the drivers so it doesnt come with cuda? would that be possible?
[02:10] <Shmam> but I guess then I would be getting a different error
[02:10] <vultyre> Try running "nvidia-smi". What does it say is the driver version at the top?
[02:11] <Shmam> Unable to determine the device handle for GPU 0000:01:00.0: Unknown Error
[02:12] <vultyre> so the issue is not just affecting ethminer?
[02:12] <vultyre> I found this: https://github.com/ethereum-mining/ethminer/issues/1138
[02:13] <vultyre> But it seems like you don't have the same problem
[02:13] <Shmam> yeah his nvidia-smi seems to be workinng
[02:13] <Shmam> nvcc is also not installed
[02:14] <vultyre> I guess I would try purging, rebooting, reinstalling, and then rebooting again
[02:15] <Guest82547> run ubuntu-drivers devices
[02:15] <vultyre> Guest82547, Shman already did: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rCtYJRhK5y/
[02:20] <vultyre> this seems like a hard one to pin down. some people have solved it by installing the drivers directly from Nvidia instead, sometimes it's a motherboard BIOS issue, sometimes it's a GPU hardware issue, sometimes VMware or Virtualbox settings are messing with it
[02:21] <Guest82547> if you can purge it and run apt install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's/[^-]*-[^-]*-//') nvidia-driver
[02:21] <Shmam> I'm not using a vm so maybe ill try installing the drivers from nvidia
[02:21] <Guest82547> after this apt install nvidia-xconfig
[02:21] <H1ddenDjinn> good evening all
[02:22] <Guest82547> then run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[02:22] <vultyre> I'd try fixing it using the repo's packages like Guest82547 is suggesting first for stability purposes
[02:22] <Shmam> I still have some nvidia packages after 'apt remove --purge nvidia*
[02:22] <Shmam> weird
[02:22] <IntelCore> compiz on bionic
[02:23] <H1ddenDjinn> i'm having an issue...i installed ubuntu 18.04, but after reboot, guess what won't boot? i'm able to get into it by choosing an efi file, but i'd like it to boot on its own...what should i do?
[02:23] <Shmam> autoremove fixed it actually
[02:24] <Shmam> apt install linux-headers.......-nvidia-driver said that "e: package nvidia-driver has no installation candidate"
[02:25] <IntelCore> so it came from.. ?
[02:25] <IntelCore> the puter maker, or nvidia
[02:26] <H1ddenDjinn> is there something in the bios i need to fix?
[02:26] <Shmam> the one that I just tried was from apt
[02:26] <H1ddenDjinn> is there something on the disk?
[02:26] <Guest82547> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[02:26] <IntelCore> hidden.. might be efi boot problem
[02:27] <Guest82547> and again ubuntu-drivers devices
[02:27] <IntelCore> uefi/gpt disk
[02:29] <H1ddenDjinn> IntelCore, such as? i hate to say it, but i've forgotten most of what i knew about linux
[02:29] <IntelCore> ruf.
[02:29] <H1ddenDjinn> IntelCore, i can use a bios option to load an efi file from the front of the hard drive, by selecting the grub efi image
[02:29] <H1ddenDjinn> but that's less than ideal
[02:30] <IntelCore> i did same with dual boot, until one helper fixed me up
[02:30] <H1ddenDjinn> i'd much rather have the machine boot on its own
[02:31] <H1ddenDjinn> maybe install grub to the beginning of hard disk?
[02:33] <Shmam> any ideas why `sudo reboot` would hang?
[02:33] <Shmam> idk whats going on
[02:34] <IntelCore> processing
[02:35] <lowky> I also have sudo reboot issues.. unity kill pid
[02:36] <H1ddenDjinn> i'm going to try sudo grub-install and see what happens
[02:36] <H1ddenDjinn> the primary hard disk is acting like grub isn't actually installed
[02:40] <Lord-Kamina> Ugh... maybe I shouldn't have upgraded...
[02:40] <Lord-Kamina> Seems like half bionic is broken.
[02:40] <Bashing-om> H1ddenDjinn: anything positive ' sudo grub-probe -t device /boot/grub ' ?
[02:40] <Lord-Kamina> I cannot access the desktop sharing section in system settings.
[02:41] <Lord-Kamina> And if I open sharing from the terminal and try to turn on sharing, it doesn't save my changes.
[02:41] <Shmam> ok somethings really borked
[02:41] <IntelCore> system settings top-right corner, displays 'About this Computer'
[02:42] <Shmam> I did `sudo shutdown` and it passed the time that shutdown was scheduled for
[02:42] <Shmam> should I just kill the power?
[02:43] <vultyre> Shmam, try 'sudo poweroff'
[02:43] <Shmam> seems to be hanging
[02:44] <H1ddenDjinn> Bashing-om, i need to reboot to see
[02:44] <H1ddenDjinn> Bashing-om, brb
[02:44] <Bashing-om> Shmam: ' sudo systemctl poweroff ' ?
[02:44] <vultyre> 'sudo systemctl poweroff'?
[02:44] <vultyre> Heh
[02:44] <Shmam> also hangs
[02:45] <vultyre> 'sudo systemctl halt'
[02:45] <Shmam> hangs
[02:46] <vultyre> Power it off by holding down the power button like a neanderthal then
[02:46] <Shmam> :(
[02:46] <vultyre> technology has failed us
[02:49] <IntelCore> When before, you chose 'system settings' it give you panel with battery, networking, and all settings.. display and all? now can't find it.
[02:50] <H1ddenDjinn> ok, well, progress
[02:50] <sonicwind> you should try sysrq (REISUO) before holding down the power button, no?
[02:51] <Shmam> uhh ohhh
[02:51] <H1ddenDjinn> Bashing-om, IntelCore, i got the thing to have ubuntu as an option, but i need to move it up to the top option
[02:51] <sonicwind> depending on your version
[02:51] <Shmam> its not lookinng good
[02:51] <H1ddenDjinn> otherwise, it loops the post until i interrupt it
[02:52] <vultyre> same problem?
[02:54] <Shmam> well now we cant get passed grub
[02:55] <H1ddenDjinn> IntelCore, i can't message you atm because i'm still synching my files including password manager...need password db to log into freenode
[02:55] <IntelCore> np, Bashing-om sends out ubuntu mail
[02:56] <IntelCore> shhh. :)
[02:57] <vultyre> Shmam, was the computer working fine with nouveau before?
[02:57] <Shmam> yeah
[02:59] <HiddenDjinn> wifi just dropped me
[02:59] <vultyre> can you get into recovery mode?
[02:59] <HiddenDj1nn> vultyre, i can boot into the system, but only after going into the bios to choose and efi file
[03:00] <vultyre> HiddenDj1nn, sorry, I was talking to Shmam
[03:00] <HiddenDj1nn> vultyre, sorry
[03:00] <HiddenDj1nn> IntelCore, why should i reinstall when the system works(kinda)
[03:00] <Shmam> I got in with this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/760374/ubuntu-16-04-nvidia-driver-blank-screen
[03:00] <IntelCore> lol, my super key does not pull out a panel on left of screen
[03:01] <Shmam> adding nomodeset to grub
[03:01] <HiddenDj1nn> IntelCore, it seems to be an ordering issue now
[03:01] <IntelCore> dont re-install HidenDijinn
[03:01] <Shmam> vultyre: I'm gonna apt purge all of the nvidia packages again and reboot
[03:02] <Shmam> wait theres no nvidia packages installed
[03:05] <HiddenDj1nn> ok, pulled an update grub, going to go into bios...bbs
[03:05] <Shmam> and ubuntu-drivers devices lists them as using nvidia-driver-390. how do I update that?
[03:07] <IntelCore> Devices connected over DisplayPort to an external screen may fail to boot on Nvidia hardware.
[03:08] <vultyre> ubuntu-drivers devices justs lists drivers that your system can use, not necessarily which ones are currently in use.
[03:08] <Shmam> I'm connected via dvi
[03:08] <Shmam> oh how do I set it to use a certain one?
[03:09] <vultyre> If you search /var/logs/Xorg.0.log for nvidia you shouldn't find anything
[03:09] <IntelCore> nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[03:09] <vultyre> Verify that that log file contains a line about loading nouveau and not one about loading nvidia
[03:10] <Shmam> grep nvidia returns nothing while grep nouveau returns the following: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qQQvRsrV5H/
[03:10] <vultyre> alright, so then we're back at square one
[03:11] <vultyre> which is at least better than a computer that won't boot
[03:12] <Shmam> lemme reboot just to make sure everything is working properly
[03:13] <Shmam> huh it doesnt reboot properly unless I add that param to grub
[03:16] <vultyre> You can modify it permanently with /etc/default/grub. I'm not sure why it booted fine without it before on nouveau but now requires it, though
[03:16] <IntelCore> \In comparison benchmarks, nouveau generally provides inferior performance to Nvidia's proprietary graphics device drivers.
[03:16] <Shmam> it looks like that param makes it use the intel integrated gpu as the resolution is capped really low
[03:18] <vultyre> hmm... that seems like an indirect effect that is bringing to light another problem. All nomodeset does is delay loading of nouveau/nvidia until X11 starts up
[03:18] <IntelCore> Compiz recommends nouveau over the Nvidia proprietary driver
[03:18] <Shmam> right but I need the nvidia driver for mining
[03:19] <IntelCore> just get it from nvidia then
[03:19] <vultyre> if not even nouveau is loading right now though, there's another problem
[03:19] <Shmam> right and I want to figure that out first
[03:20] <vultyre> does 'lsmod | grep nouveau' return anything?
[03:22] <Guest82547> Shmam,  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[03:22] <IntelCore> sudo lshw -C display  (Shows the info u may need to know on the driver)
[03:22] <Guest82547> sudo apt update
[03:22] <Shmam> With nomodeset in grub: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mrpZznhgPz/
[03:22] <vultyre> If it doesn't return anything, can you dump the contents of dmesg?
[03:23] <vultyre> so it is loaded
[03:23] <vultyre> But you're limited to small resolutions?
[03:23] <Shmam> yeah my 1080p monitor is limited to 720
[03:24] <IntelCore> Asus? get a driver off them?
[03:24] <vultyre> I'm reading through this right now: https://askubuntu.com/questions/106055/ubuntu-stuck-in-low-resolution-after-uninstalling-disabling-nvidia-drivers
[03:24] <Shmam> I would guess that its using the intel integrated graphics
[03:24] <vultyre> They had a similar issue where nouveau was loaded but had a limited resolution
[03:25] <vultyre> https://askubuntu.com/a/694713
[03:25] <vultyre> Try this?
[03:25] <Shmam> I dont have a nvidia* file in modprobe
[03:25] <Guest82547> you need 381 driver
[03:26] <vultyre> Guest82547, why do you think that?
[03:26] <Shmam> I dont have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[03:27] <IntelCore> May well be in a different file, so have a nosey around the modprobe.d folder
[03:29] <IntelCore> bumblebee?
[03:29] <vultyre> It's a 1070 in a desktop, so no
[03:30] <vultyre> Purging nvidia drivers gets rid of xorg.conf, so it makes sense that yours is gone
[03:31] <vultyre> But then it makes it odd that your display settings did not get reverted to the previous state from before installing the nvidia drivers
[03:31] <IntelCore> last thing posted on that page.
[03:31] <IntelCore> askubuntu
[03:32] <IntelCore> making sure I had xserver-xorg-video-nouveau installed
[03:33] <IntelCore> that's not the nvidia. but the screen res might come back
[03:36] <vultyre> If you're using nomodeset in grub you might need to use some additional settings in grub as well: https://askubuntu.com/a/761185
[03:37] <kernelman> anyway to multi- select in gedit like in nautilus using ctrl+leftmouse click?
[03:38] <Shmam> maybe I should just fresh install
[03:38] <Shmam> start from the beginning
[03:47] <Shmam> actually before I do that
[03:47] <Shmam> I now have the option to install nvidia-390
[03:54] <Shmam> after installing that, nvidia-smi returns unable to determine the device handle
[04:00] <King_of_Ireland> hey guys - is there a good top for your network activity? i'm blanking on the name. not htop or iotop
[04:02] <guiverc_d> King_of_Ireland, iftop ?  (interface bandwidth usage..)
[04:03] <King_of_Ireland> YES!
[04:03] <King_of_Ireland> ty
[04:03] <guiverc_d> you're most welcome your majesty ;)
[04:04] <King_of_Ireland> well played!
[04:17] <sjv1709a12> hello bro
[04:21] <IntelCore> Sham?
[04:26] <IntelCore>  /msg nickserv help set password
[04:27] <drmessano> hunter2
[04:35] <Muligan> weee
[04:35] <Muligan> win10 updated to 1803 and b0rked the grub on this ssd
[04:35] <Muligan> :\
[04:36] <hatesec> Muligan: you there
[04:37] <Muligan> yea
[04:37] <Muligan> what's up?
[04:38] <hatesec> i learned a trick where i physically unplug the HD from my motherboard, and install win10 first (since it doesn't play nice w/ other os). then i install whatever other OS second, with the windows hd unplugged
[04:38] <hatesec> this requires using at least two hds
[04:38] <Muligan> yea
[04:38] <Muligan> this is a laptop
[04:38] <Muligan> i'm thinking imma have to reload this guy
[04:38] <Muligan> new laptop to me
[04:38] <Muligan> latitude e7240
[04:38] <Muligan> msata drive in it
[04:39] <guiverc_w> Muligan, this may help with restoring grub - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:39] <hatesec> ya dude im pretty sure that's a "bug" MS ain't interested in fixing, because to them it's a feature
[04:39] <Muligan> no doubt
[04:39] <Muligan> honestly, I've been using ubuntu more and more at home than win10
[04:39] <Muligan> honestly, I really don't need win10 at all
[04:39] <hatesec> i need it for gaming and photoshop
[04:39] <Muligan> I've another laptop (latitude e6420) that I could easily use if I needed windows
[04:40] <Muligan> plus I've got my desktop still in the box in the basement
[04:40] <Muligan> i game after work on my office machine anyhow
[04:40] <Muligan> :D
[04:40] <Muligan> been thinking about picking up a pair of rx580's for mining in this thing due to being in the field all day
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> Muligan: keep it ontopic please
[04:41] <Muligan> muh bad
[04:41] <Muligan> :D
[04:42] <Muligan> what would be my boot partition?
[04:42] <Muligan> sda1?
[04:42] <Muligan> esh
[04:43] <Muligan> partition type: NTFS/exFAT/HPFS(Bootable)
[04:43] <Muligan> /dev/sda4 Partition Type: Extended
[04:45] <Guest29962> Hello guys, what is the hottest topic tonight?
[04:47] <Muligan> oh hell, if I need windows on this laptop, I'll run it in a VM
[04:47] <Muligan> nuke and repave
[04:49] <smacktalk> how do I burn an iso image with ubuntu?  I have the newest version
[04:49] <smacktalk> the dvd is greyed out
[04:49] <smacktalk> like it's not mounted?
[04:50] <smacktalk> what's the command to mount it?
[04:53] <smacktalk> dang!
[04:57] <frad> i cannot search and find text if I run the 'man' command
[04:57] <frad> is that normal?
[04:58] <aloo_shu> frad: / is the character for text search
[04:59] <aloo_shu> n for next occurence
[04:59] <Mystic_Reverie> How come my chat apps are connecting to the internet, but none of my browsers will?  Ubuntu 18
[04:59] <frad> aloo_shu, thanks!
[04:59] <frad> aloo_shu, then p is for the previous occurrence?
[05:00] <aloo_shu> I think ? brings up help
[05:00] <aloo_shu> p is probably ok
[05:00] <Mystic_Reverie> Anyone help ?
[05:00] <cbpye> lotuspsychje: hey, I finally got it working.
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> cbpye: how please?
[05:00] <guiverc> smacktalk, an easy to use iso burner is multiwriter (a gnome staple)
[05:02] <cbpye> lotuspsychje: purged, removed, and autoremoved everything nvidia-*; made sure that I was not in SecureBoot mode; Blacklisted nouveau; re-installed dkms, linux-headers-general, gcc, and one other thing that I forgot.
[05:02] <aloo_shu> Mystic_Reverie: what do the browsers say? could be your connection is very slow, good enough for a little text, but too lame to even complete tls handshake
[05:02] <Mystic_Reverie> allo, they just say the no internet error message
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> cbpye: but on wich driver are you now?
[05:03] <cbpye> lotuspsychje: then, I just used 390.77 from NVIDIA's website.  After rebooting and seeing it work, I removed ubuntus graphics driver PPA.  don't want it messing with anything.
[05:03] <Mystic_Reverie> I can connect to a few apps like tox chat.  bubt cant connect to browsers, or even hexchat.  the net seems to be 'half working'
[05:03] <IntelCore> synaptics package manager has a 'Sections' and you will find "Libraries" (Restricted" with Nvidia in it.
[05:03] <cbpye> lotuspsychje: MORAL OF THE STORY -- just trust the hardware vendor.
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> cbpye: can you add your solution on: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390/+bug/1752053 please?
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> cbpye: had a user here yesterday fixxing it with ubuntu graphics ppa aswell
[05:06] <aloo_shu> Mystic_Reverie: netstat -atu (repeatedly) allows you to follow if apps try to open connections, and their status, but that apart, I'm out of ideas, somebody else please
[05:07] <Mystic_Reverie> how to run netstat atu ?.  anyway.. it wont help me.  i dont understand that stuff.  i have internet connection but many thing swont connect ot the web, but some do
[05:07] <IntelCore> firewalld that web browser you wont connect
[05:07] <cbpye> maybe?  confession time: I'm running Kubuntu 18.01, and I'm almost certain that my issue was caused by software being installed/updated by the Discover application (which sucks, BTW) while simultaneously using the Driver Manager system setting widget.  They both crashed simultanously while one thing was in the middle of something.
[05:08] <Mystic_Reverie> ive tried 3 web browsers, none connect. and hexchat also wont work
[05:08] <IntelCore> on hex now
[05:09] <cbpye> the other major thing that was different for me was that, repeatedly, my driver installs were failing while dkms was building a module.
[05:09] <IntelCore> Assume this is not the pc that won't connect. try re-installing the wifi, and modem..
[05:09] <guiverc> Mystic_Reverie, I'd ping an address; say 8.8.8.8 which will probably work; then try pinging a human address, say google.com - if that fails then it's likely DNS which could be side effect of a VPN etc mucking it up .. i'm only around rarely so can't help currently
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> cbpye: ok tnx for feedback mate
[05:09] <Mystic_Reverie> i dont have a vpn
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> cbpye: if you have time, help the community adding your story short to the bug url
[05:10] <Mystic_Reverie> and have no idea how or what to ping
[05:10] <IntelCore> if it wont connect, he's not pinging no one
[05:10] <Mystic_Reverie> i am connected to the web.  i can use tox chat for example
[05:11] <Mystic_Reverie> but not any browser
[05:11] <aloo_shu> ok, Mystic_Reverie , you'll have to learn how to open a terminal and to type in a command
[05:11] <IntelCore> off, the modem, off the wifi.. disconnect an ethernet
[05:11] <IntelCore> turn it all back on
[05:11] <Mystic_Reverie> i can type in the comman if you tell em what to type
[05:12] <aloo_shu> ping 8.8.8.8
[05:12] <Mystic_Reverie> sudo apt?
[05:12] <Mystic_Reverie> bash?  json?
[05:12] <foureight84> currently running 18.04 on hades canyon and i had a heck of a time building 4.18 kernel to support amd vega. does anyone here know if there are precompiled ubuntu 4.18rc6 kernels for amdgpu?
[05:12] <Mystic_Reverie> just 'ping 8.8.8.8  ?
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> !who | aloo_shu Mystic_Reverie
[05:12] <Woodpecker> hey
[05:12] <Mystic_Reverie> use tab how ?
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> foureight84: we dont reccomend compiling own kernels here, use !mainline instead
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> Woodpecker: welcome to ubuntu support, how can we help you?
[05:14] <aloo_shu> Mystic_Reverie: ask lotuspsychje
[05:14] <Mystic_Reverie> i pinged,  gettign an average of about 5ms
[05:14] <Woodpecker> I need help restoring a folder (my home folder) damaged by a rogue build system that was deleting all the files. Its a btrfs fs, and I am logged into a live usb.
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> Mystic_Reverie: when you press first lettre of a nickname, then press TAB it will autofill
[05:14] <foureight84> !mainline
[05:14] <smacktalk> guiverc  i tried to install mutiwriter and it's not in the repository...unable to locate package multiwriter
[05:14] <Woodpecker> I dont quite understand how to complete this line...
[05:15] <Woodpecker> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo btrfs restore --path-regex '^/(|home(|/akiva(|/.*)))$' /dev/sda1
[05:15] <foureight84> @lotuspsychje, yep i don't recommend it either because it works but now i need to reformat. so this is better
[05:15] <Mystic_Reverie> its says my device is 'wired, connected'  but there is also a question mark there.  soemthings not right
[05:16] <Woodpecker> I need a <path> argument, but I am not sure what I can use.
[05:16] <smacktalk> oh, got it sudo apt-get install gnome-multi-writer
[05:16] <Mystic_Reverie> no arguements in her eplease wood
[05:16] <foureight84> @lotuspsychje, is there a log of what's included in the latest mainline? i tried this before and it didn't have amdgpu
[05:16] <foureight84> sorry i meant amd vega support
[05:18] <IntelCore> need to tweak compiz. No dock on left. no Super key
[05:20] <IntelCore> system settings is in that dock. And the menu at top right does not open settings, it shows 'About' the computer in two places
[05:21] <IntelCore> indicator applet complete
[05:23] <cbpye> lotuspsychje: I'll take some notes and try to post it tomorrow.
[05:23] <IntelCore> https://launchpad.net/indicator-applet
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> cbpye: tnx
[05:27] <IntelCore> well, they dont have an 18.04 version of that applet on launchpad. the 17.10 is there
[05:31] <IntelCore> found it. got applet
[05:33] <IntelCore> gnomedm. so it should let the panel dock show. compiz won't let it. and the super key is not operational
[05:33] <IntelCore> but compiz works
[05:35] <IntelCore> All-in-all on hp 15 i5, it's been rather slide upgrade. few tweaks. goodnight.
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> foureight84: i would reccomend, like just testing one of the mainline kernels, if you find a new bug on it, file it
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> Woodpecker: can testdisk/photorec restore your lost data?
[06:12] <Woodpecker> lotuspsychje: ill try
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> Woodpecker: never tested myself on btrfs, perhaps in the future choose a more stable layout? btrfs still known for data loss
[06:14] <Woodpecker> lotuspsychje: better yet I should learn to do cloud backups. I just dont want my software to get stolen...
[06:15] <Woodpecker> and unfortunately my usb backup faiiiiiiled !
[06:15] <Woodpecker> ugh
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> Woodpecker: the cloud isnt really a standard for secure data neither :p
[06:16] <Woodpecker> lotuspsychje: well it has eaten most of my important data... thousands of hours of work.
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> Woodpecker: dont store sensitive data on btrfs mate.. and alway make a double back
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> up
[06:17] <Woodpecker> lotuspsychje: if I can find that code still as a string... that would be nice
[06:17] <Woodpecker> its not a btrfs issue though... not really anyways.
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> Woodpecker: try sudo photorec, then scan your partition for your lost data, perhaps add the right filetype you are lost for faster scan?
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> aka: .jpg .mp4..
[06:19] <Internet_guy> hey is there any suggestion for a GUI download manager in Ubuntu ?
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> Internet_guy: yes there are plenty, did you search apt-cache search keyword?
[06:22] <Internet_guy> lotuspsychje, sorry i was not aware of that command
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> Internet_guy: kget
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> Internet_guy: uget
[06:24] <Woodpecker> lotuspsychje: that is helpful. thanks!
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Woodpecker :p
[06:26] <Internet_guy> N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
[06:26] <Internet_guy> how can i add such rep
[06:29] <cpd> hello, is there a way I can hide a folder in my home directory with the . and still let a program access it? The program doesn't find it when I hide it and created a new folder
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> Internet_guy: be carefull with adding external ppa's to your system, they can scramble things up
[06:30] <Internet_guy> lotuspsychje, yeah i know
[06:31] <Internet_guy> i want to take risk tell me how to enable that ?
[06:31] <EriC^^> cpd: let the program know the new dir
[06:31] <EriC^^> "." doesnt actually do anything to a dir, it just let's "ls" and the filemanager not show it without extra input, it's nothing special
[06:32] <EriC^^> Internet_guy: sudo apt-get -o Acquire::AllowInsecureRepositories update
[06:32] <EriC^^> i think it's sudo apt-get -o=Acquire::AllowInsecureRepositories update
[06:35] <Internet_guy> EriC^^, E: Option -o=Acquire::ppa:noobslab/apps: Configuration item specification must have an =<val>.
[06:36] <EriC^^> Internet_guy: it was very literal you dont need to replace anything
[06:36] <cpd> EriC^^: Its a .jar file that automatically creates a folder if it doesn't find it. When I use . to hide it every time the jar is run it recreates it, I was wondering if I can somehow link .folder to folder so it doesnt auto create it
[06:37] <Internet_guy> EriC^^, E: Option Acquire::AllowInsecureRepositories: Configuration item specification must have an =<val>.
[06:37] <Internet_guy>  
[06:37] <Ben64> cpd: yes but doing that would still show folder
[06:37] <Internet_guy> yet the same error
[06:38] <cpd> Ben64: so unless I get the jar to read it as .folder instead there is no workaround for me to hide a folder that doesnt have a . before it
[06:39] <Ben64> cpd: pretty much, why do you need it hidden though
[06:41] <cpd> Ben64: don't need it hidden, I just like my folder nice and neat, this particular jar adds a folder and 2 files to my home directory so its just annoying to look at. Was hoping there was some sort of extension for my file manager that can hide a selected file and folder
[06:41] <EriC^^> cpd: yeah, you'd need to modify the jar file
[06:41] <EriC^^> Internet_guy: run the 2nd command i gave, with -o=Aq...
[06:41] <EriC^^> cpd: could you not extract the jar in a hidden dir? or it's hardcoded to extract to your $HOME ?
[06:42] <EriC^^> maybe modifying $HOME would help in that case?
[06:42] <cpd> EriC^^: Yeah it seems to be hardcoded, im digging around in the jar but cant find any reference to $HOME or anything resembling a user directory where it is creating the folder.
[06:43] <Internet_guy> abhi@internet-guy:~$ sudo apt-get -o=Acquire::AllowInsecureRepositories update
[06:43] <Internet_guy> [sudo] password for abhi:
[06:43] <Internet_guy> E: Option -o=Acquire::AllowInsecureRepositories: Configuration item specification must have an =<val>.
[06:43] <Internet_guy> Same error bro
[06:46] <cpd> EriC^^ Ben64: found a fix, if I create a file called .hidden in my $HOME and inside that I put all the files and folders I want hidden it wont show in thunar or nautilus anymore without adding a .
[06:48] <cpd> thanks for your help
[06:53] <harrymm> dammit. i just unpacked bitcoin to a local dir, then did sudo mv /lib/* /usr/lib/ instead of sudo mv lib/* /usr/lib/. how in hell do i find the libs i've moved???
[06:56] <geirha> grep ^/lib/ /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list
[06:57] <atlas_0x01> grep
[06:58] <atlas_0x01> bloody good shi....stuff
[06:59] <harrymm> thx. looks like a mess :(
[07:00] <geirha> harrymm: you also shouldn't have moved the actual libs to /usr/lib; you should leave that dir to the package manager. The better place to install it is /usr/local/lib/
[07:01] <geirha> harrymm: well, it's mostly just a few dozen directories, so it's not really that messy after all
[07:01] <harrymm> wish i had. it looks like i've got hundreds of files from that grep
[07:02] <geirha> grep -h '^/lib/[^/]*$' /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list | sort -u
[07:02] <geirha> so you're down to that list
[07:03] <harrymm> ahh. that's manageable at least. only a dozen or so. thx
[07:06] <geirha> and there were probably some collisions, so not all of those were moved at all
[07:08] <harrymm> err...those are directories. would they have been moved?
[07:08] <geirha> only if the destination did not contain those directories already
[07:10] <harrymm> ok. i see...
[07:13] <geirha> on this ubuntu install here, there's only one regular file (/lib/klibc-*.so), two symlinks (/lib/ld-linux.so.2 and /lib/cpp) and the rest are directories
[07:19] <harrymm> ohoh. what are the symlinks?
[07:19] <harrymm> i got one: ld-linux.so.2
[07:20] <harrymm> oh. sry. didn't see in your reply.
[07:22] <harrymm> whew. done. thx a lot :)
[08:33] <TaylorHere> Hey,Guys, Is therea way to create a image using my running OS? like dump a image at aws ec2?
[08:34] <TaylorHere> I've tried live-boot, that's not what I want.
[08:34] <muflihin_> ole
[08:36] <TaylorHere> does there a link that I can found some more details?
[08:37] <TaylorHere> do not konw what ole is.
[08:38] <tom_tom_> ?
[08:38] <muflihin_> jajaja
[08:38] <tom_tom_> is there any software for ubuntu?
[08:39] <muflihin_> like a what?
[08:39] <tom_tom_> blog
[08:40] <EriC^^> TaylorHere: what do you mean by an image? are you asking how you can image the hard disk?
[08:43] <TaylorHere> I mean dump my system to an .iso file, so that I can use the file to install another computer.
[08:44] <EriC^^> !customlivecd | TaylorHere maybe this will help
[08:44] <TaylorHere> I need install some base software on ubunutu, and dump it to iso file, so that I can share my iso to my customers
[08:46] <TaylorHere> Eric^^, ne, ne, I tried live-boot before.
[08:47] <tom_tom_> ?
[08:47] <guiverc_w> TaylorHere, I can't speak from experience; but Makulu Linux is based on Ubuntu, and has an open-source script that creates the ISO of their distro from the tweaked system they run; I've only read about it in blogs (never used it)
[08:48] <guiverc_w> build constructor or something like that it was called (from memory) TaylorHere
[08:48] <TaylorHere> maybe their scripts can helps me. :)
[08:48] <TaylorHere> thx
[08:48] <phocean> hello
[08:49] <phocean> I am trying to figure out how to configure systemd-resolve to use all the DNS in its list when the primary is not available
[08:49] <phocean> how to make it rotate with timeout, like in the old good resolv.conf ?
[08:57] <tom_tom_> any body?
[08:57] <tom_tom_> i can not install the ubuntu 18.04 on my thinkpad x
[08:58] <tom_tom_> i can not install the ubuntu 18.04 on my thinkpad x
[08:58] <tom_tom_> i can not install the ubuntu 18.04 on my thinkpad x60
[08:58] <tom_tom_> i can not install the ubuntu 18.04 on my thinkpad x60
[08:58] <guiverc> tom_tom_, have you created a bootable usb with ubuntu on it?  (please don't repeat or spam the channel)
[08:59] <tom_tom_> i have
[08:59] <guiverc> does it boot, can you 'try ubuntu' & use it successfully on the x60 ?
[08:59] <tom_tom_> it's successful
[09:00] <guiverc> why can't you install?  do you get an error or something?
[09:00] <tom_tom_> when finished the installed
[09:00] <tom_tom_> the system became restart
[09:01] <tom_tom_> and can not been restart
[09:01] <tom_tom_> the screen is black
[09:01] <guiverc> do you see a grub menu?  are you asked to login? (after grub menu)
[09:02] <tom_tom_> no
[09:02] <tom_tom_> i think the cpu doesn't match the ubuntu 18.04
[09:03] <phocean_> I want to achieve that with systemd :
[09:03] <phocean_> options timeout:1
[09:03] <phocean_> nameserver 123.123.123.123
[09:03] <phocean_> nameserver 8.8.8.8
[09:03] <tom_tom_> it's the only realy i have thinked;
[09:03] <tom_tom_> only reason
[09:04] <guiverc> very much doubt that; since you could try it successfully; cpu is fine.  i suspect it's possible you didn't install grub to the device (instead maybe to a partition) which means grub has can't boot & you get nothing. but usually its an error from your machine's bios or eufi...
[09:04] <tom_tom_> anyway  , i will try to insstall again tonight;
[09:05] <guiverc> i'm looking for instructions on how to fix grub (which will help if my assumption is correct)
[09:06] <tom_tom_> can you sent the  instructions to my email;\
[09:06] <guiverc> this may be handy - https://www.howtogeek.com/114884/how-to-repair-grub2-when-ubuntu-wont-boot/  (it can be run from your install media)
[09:07] <tom_tom_> ok  thank you
[09:07] <guiverc> note: it may not be your problem, it's what I suspect your issue is...
[09:08] <guiverc> you're most welcome tom_tom_ :)
[09:08] <tom_tom_> thks
[09:11] <phocean_> seriously, systemd-resolv really sucks
[09:12] <phocean_> there is little documentation and it seems to lack many features
[09:12] <strk> I've just upgraded to 18.04 and X doesn't start anymore
[09:12] <strk> oh what fun it is to upgrade
[09:13] <strk> ● lightdm.service - LSB: Start lightdm --    Active: active (exited) since Mon 2018-07-30 11:11:28 CEST; 1min 47s ago
[09:13] <strk> still, no graphic login screen exists
[09:13] <strk> only console logins
[09:27] <luna_> Time for the yearly apt talk in 2 minutes: https://debconf18.debconf.org/schedule/venue/2/
[09:34] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[09:34] <theWhiteMountain> Morning
[09:40] <qwebirc41159> I am facing problem when installing ubuntu, "wifi adapter not found"
[09:41] <theWhiteMountain> @qwebirc41159 what version?
[09:43] <gracious1>  /join #palemoon
[09:43] <theWhiteMountain> qwebirc41159 is it a fresh install?
[09:50] <jwojr> hey, what is the command to remove an account on Ubuntu 16.04?
[09:52] <beaver> !info linux-signed-generic
[09:52] <theWhiteMountain> deluser
[09:52] <beaver> https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/linux-signed-generic (hm)
[09:52] <theWhiteMountain> jwojr: sudo deluser newuser
[09:54] <jwojr> thewhitemountain: thanks
[09:54] <theWhiteMountain> np
[09:54] <beaver> !info linux-signed-image-generic
[09:54] <beaver> there is a problem with packageinfo
[09:55] <jwojr> I'm new to the irc world. What are some cool chats relates to linux
[10:01] <Unk70wn> hello, any software that can recover moved files?
[10:04] <theWhiteMountain> Unk70wn: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/recovering-deleted-files-and-folders/2211
[10:06] <kanetoo> Hello.
[10:07] <theWhiteMountain> Hello
[10:07] <kanetoo> Can anyone tell how can I make Ubuntu see JBL GO bluetooth device?
[10:08] <jwojr> is thewhitemountion an admin?
[10:08] <theWhiteMountain> no
[10:09] <theWhiteMountain> kanetoo: is it showing up on your devices list but not playing?
[10:09] <asdfgh> hi
[10:09] <kanetoo> No, it isn't visible on the list.
[10:09] <jwojr> asdfg: hey
[10:10] <kanetoo> theWhiteMountain: N, it isn't visible on the list.
[10:18] <Unk70wn> theWhiteMountain what about ntfsundelete?
[10:18] <Unk70wn> i can recover files but they are corrupt
[10:19] <theWhiteMountain> Unk70wn: No experience with it, sorry.
[10:21] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[10:21] <theWhiteMountain> kanetoo: are you able to view others? It's just that single device that isn't showing up?
[10:21] <silv3r_m00n> is it okay to buy games on steam for ubuntu ? any likely problems ?
[10:22] <silv3r_m00n> i am just a beginner. and i want to play some multiplayer games
[10:23] <theWhiteMountain> silv3r_m00n: it depends if the game has support for linux.
[10:23] <silv3r_m00n> i am thinking of buying this , https://store.steampowered.com/app/730/CounterStrike_Global_Offensive/
[10:23] <silv3r_m00n> read on some blog that is available for ubuntu
[10:24] <kanetoo> theWhiteMountain: I am able to see my phone and send files to my phone. But it doesn't see the speaker.
[10:25] <theWhiteMountain> kanetoo: what is the device?
[10:27] <kanetoo> theWhiteMountain: It's a Xiaomi Redmi Note 3
[10:28] <theWhiteMountain> kanetoo: that won't connect?
[10:29] <kanetoo> theWhiteMountain: The xiaomi phone connects with no problem. It's the JBL GO speaker that won't connect.
[10:29] <theWhiteMountain> NVM just saw its the JBL GO
[10:30] <theWhiteMountain> kanetoo: Did you read through this? http://www.pc-freak.net/blog/install-jbl-go-bluetooth-speak-debian-gnu-linux/
[10:33] <kanetoo> theWhiteMountain: yeah, as I recall it had problems installing few of the packages recommended in this article.
[10:38] <fub> I want to extract the default /etc/* files from a ubuntu 18.04 installation. How can I do this? Downloaded the .iso and mounted it, but I cant find a single .conf file in there.
[10:38] <kanetoo> theWhiteMountain: I need to go. Thank you for your time :)
[10:39] <TJ-> fub: often they are copied in from default templates by the package .postinst scripts
[10:39] <theWhiteMountain> kanetoo: sudo apt-get install bluez-tools
[10:39] <theWhiteMountain> kanetoo: bt-device -l
[10:39] <theWhiteMountain> kanetoo: bt-audio -c "device mac address". Maybe that will work. Best of luck.
[10:40] <fub> TJ-: so this is also done when booting from a "live usb" ?
[10:40] <fub> where do I find this .postinst files? find . -name "*.postinst" is empty
[10:45] <TJ-> fub, no, liveISOs use a squashfs image of an installed system that runs out of RAM
[10:46] <fub> so then I could theoretically also mount that squashfs and copy the files from there, right?
[10:46] <TJ-> fub: when a package is installed by dpkg it extracts the files from the .deb and puts them in /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[10:46] <TJ-> fub: correct
[10:46] <fub> do I have to start the liveiso for this? or do I find the squashfs somewhere
[10:46] <TJ-> fub: .preinst, .postinst, .prerm, .postrm shell scripts are in that directory along with the checksums and file lists
[10:47] <fub> I can find a ./casper/filesystem.squashfs
[10:47] <TJ-> fub: the squashfs is in /casper/
[10:48] <fub> TJ-: ok, thanks
[10:48] <fub> what I want to do is compare this files with a running system and then make a diff to see what was changed/differs from a default installation
[10:58] <aleksander> so i  let myself (as user) to run processes with different nice than default
[10:58] <TafThorne> Good morning (just about for me),  Anyone here using Eclipse CDT on 18.04?
[10:58] <aleksander> in /usr/share/applications/ i edited firefox.desktop and put in preferences, section  „command” nice -n -19 firefox %u
[10:59] <aleksander> but it doesn;t start with different nice. what am i doing wrong?
[11:00] <TafThorne> @aleksander you have an extra - infront of the numbner
[11:00] <TafThorne> „command” nice -n 19 firefox %u
[11:00] <TafThorne>  might work for you unless that was a copy here error
[11:01] <TafThorne> For me, with the -19 I get a permissions error as nice does not know if I am putting nice up or down and a normal user is not allowed to make things a higher priority (less nice)
[11:01] <TafThorne> $ nice -n -19 echo "hi"
[11:01] <TafThorne> nice: cannot set niceness: Permission denied
[11:01] <TafThorne> hi
[11:01] <TafThorne> vs.
[11:01] <TafThorne> $ nice -n 19 echo "hi"
[11:01] <TafThorne> hi
[11:02] <aleksander> TafThorne because i want priority to be higher (therefore -n -19). i can already differ nice parameter due to  adding user_name    -       nice            -20 in /etc/security/
[11:02] <TafThorne> ops, upset the Drone. My bad.
[11:03] <aleksander> without using sudo
[11:03] <TafThorne> I need to go for a bit but I'll be back in ~1 hour.  I'll try to remember my nice playing around issues.  It has been a few years.
[11:04] <aleksander> now for some reason, the app still starts without respecting sudo. but i've just discovered that it is just a shortcut that doesn't work this way. if i  start firefox.desktop it goes with nice -19, but i i start firefox from panel (still has the righ parameter) it doesn't respect sudo
[11:04] <aleksander> has to be a bug
[11:09] <FedoraUser> hi friends
[11:09] <FedoraUser> how can I see what happened to the package 'libnagios-plugin-perl' in bionic?
[11:09] <FedoraUser> (if it was renamed or removed, ...)
[11:15] <TJ-> !info libnagios-object-perl | FedoraUser
[11:17] <FedoraUser> TJ-,  thanks, how would one discover new name of the package?
[11:18] <TJ-> FedoraUser: in Debian/Ubuntu it's always been that name - since 2006
[11:18] <TJ-> FedoraUser: maybe there's another similar package "plugin" as well that has since gone away?
[11:18] <TJ-> !info libnagios-plugin-perl trusty
[11:18] <FedoraUser> TJ-, are you sure? I'm looking for this package: https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libnagios-plugin-perl
[11:19] <TJ-> !info libnagios-plugin-perl xenial
[11:19] <TJ-> FedoraUser: so, there was, and it doesnt seem to exist in 18.04
[11:19] <TJ-> !info libnagios-plugin-perl
[11:19] <FedoraUser> TJ-, ok, and if it was renamed, would there be a way of checking that?
[11:21] <TJ-> FedoraUser: yes, obsolete/deleted: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnagios-plugin-perl/+publishinghistory
[11:21] <FedoraUser> oh cool, it's replaced by libmonitoring-plugin-perl
[11:22] <FedoraUser> TJ-, thank you, highly appreciated!
[11:23] <TJ-> FedoraUser: removed from Debian, so synced to Ubuntu at start of Zesty cycle I guess: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libnagios-plugin-perl
[11:24] <TJ-> FedoraUser: aha! if you read the REMOVED entries in tracker it tells us "ROM; superseeded by libmonitoring-plugin-perl"
[11:24] <TJ-> !info libmonitoring-plugin-perl
[11:24] <FedoraUser> yes, I've mentioned that
[11:24] <TJ-> FedoraUser: sorry, must have missed it in all the text
[11:24] <FedoraUser> that page was super helpful and exactly what I was looking for
[11:24] <FedoraUser> thanks again ;)
[11:35] <bongo12345> hi. I need help uninstalling Libre Office. I can't find it on Synaptic and Apt-get claims it's not there but I have it installed !
[11:37] <guiverc> bongo12345, how did you install libreoffice??; apt|apt-get|.. can only know about things that it installs; and thus are in its database...
[11:38] <Tin^man> comes preinstalled with Kubuntu.
[11:38] <Tin^man> or most ubuntu's that I know of
[11:39] <bongo12345> guiverc, problem is...i cant remember ....must have been 2 years ago. Is there a way to find out?
[11:41] <guiverc> it may be in your logs, /var/log/apt/  bongo12345 , or you could try `dpkg -l libreo* |grep ^ii` which should show what libreo* files dpkg/apt/aptitude/synaptic/.. know about...
[11:43] <guiverc> ps: if you installed from source, or not by dpkg/apt* tools, there will be no log in the directory i gave bongo12345 - try the command I gave to see what dpkg can see (if any)
[11:44] <TJ-> Tin^man: what does "apt list --installed libreoffice*" report ?
[11:44] <TJ-> oops, wrong target!
[11:44] <TJ-> bongo12345: what does "apt list --installed libreoffice*" report ?
[11:45] <TJ-> bongo12345: also "which -a libreoffice" to check what path it is installed at
[11:46] <user0> someone know how to solve this error "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lopencv_imgcodecs"?
[11:46] <user0> I tried this command, but doesn't work 'export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/'
[11:46] <TJ-> user0: in what context are you seeing that? Building some package?
[11:47] <Amar_> LXD containers are remaining in pending state for ever in juju 2.4 for trusty series
[11:47] <user0> TJ-: Yes, makefile
[11:47] <shecki> exit
[11:48] <TJ-> user0: i would expect that ld wouldn't include the "-l" switch when reporting "cannot find" so it could be a simple syntax error
[11:49] <user0> TJ-: I tried to build this: https://github.com/tsdconseil/opencv-demonstrator
[11:49] <user0> TJ-: Okay, I will check it out.
[11:50] <guiverc> user0, are you trying to change the list_dirs (LD_) inside a shell script or other - it won't work; refer https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#A.2BAC8-etc.2BAC8-environment
[11:51] <bongo12345> TJ-, it shows libre office 5.1 and lbre office 4.3
[11:52] <guiverc> (ie. interative shells have different rules for libraries than background(non-interactive) jobs - dash/bash... since 9.04)
[11:53] <bongo12345> guiverc, i get a very long output for dpkg -l libreo* |grep ^ii
[11:54] <guiverc> bongo12345, which will have the package names that you can remove/purge...  those are the packages that no doubt make up libreoffice
[11:55] <bongo12345> guiverc, https://pastebin.com/ZXumy8AP , can you give me an example of a command i need to run
[11:55] <se-sm-ca> can't you just "apt-get uninstall libreoffice"? I thought that was a meta package that would handle all of the other dependencies
[11:55] <se-sm-ca> https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libreoffice
[11:57] <guiverc> bongo12345, the first line tells you have `libreoffice4.3` package installed; so a `sudo apt-get remove libreoffice4.3` will remove that package ; you could replace `remove` with `purge` to also delete configs etc. if you'll not install it again...
[11:57] <bongo12345> guiverc, thanks. I'll try that
[11:58] <guiverc> bongo12345, what Ubuntu are you using?
[11:59] <bongo12345> guiverc, 14.04
[12:00] <bongo12345> guiverc, xfce
[12:01] <sentiment> hello
[12:02] <sentiment> I wanted to find specific files and move them to another directory. I used this command : find -depth -path *.mp3 -exec mv -v '{}' ~/Music/From_Downloads \;
[12:02] <sentiment> but now all the found songs are merged into one weird file
[12:03] <sentiment> is it possible to reverse this action?!
[12:03] <sentiment> From_Downloads: MPEG ADTS, layer III, v1,  80 kbps, 44.1 kHz, JntStereo
[12:03] <sentiment>  ^ that is the file's type
[12:04] <guiverc> sentiment, merged into - wouldn't that contain only the last file moved (and not all)?
[12:04] <sentiment> hmm
[12:05] <TJ-> sentiment: if you really did use "-path *.mp3" and not "-path '*.mp3' " then the shell will have expanded the "*.mp3" before executing 'find'
[12:05] <sentiment> guiverc: you seem to be right , though the files have been moved somewhere anyways
[12:05] <sentiment> they are not in the original location anymore
[12:06] <guiverc> if my guess is right; they were all moved to that file, overwriting the prior move; giving you more space as it proceeded (as prior one was in effect deleted...) - but refer TJ-
[12:07] <sentiment> damn
[12:07] <TJ-> sentiment: every file was written to a new file called From_Downloads, rather than into a directory called ./From_Downloads/ so that will only be last file moved, all others were overwritten
[12:07] <sentiment> ok :-( I see
[12:08] <TJ-> sentiment: I'm guessing you didn't do "mkdir -p ~/Music/From_Downloads" first ?
[12:08] <sentiment> I thought it would create a directory
[12:08] <TJ-> sentiment: no
[12:08] <guiverc> why would it - your command referred to a file, not a directory (no From_Downloads/ )
[12:08] <sentiment> so all is lost right ?
[12:09] <guiverc> you've always got your backups right ?
[12:09] <TJ-> sentiment: there's no way 'mv' could know that, because you were repeatedly calling it with single file arguments "mv ./path/to/file/1.mp3 ~/Music/From_Downloads"
[12:09] <sentiment> nope... I didn't imagine it would destroy things
[12:10] <guiverc> create a copy of your data, and always test before you do anything... never 'test in production'
[12:11] <sentiment> oh ok of course. just didn't see a chance if would destroy data
[12:11] <sentiment> no big deal though I guess... thanks anyways
[12:14] <sentiment> is it possible to recover the lost files from that location ?
[12:15] <sentiment> because the sectors might not be overwritten yet
[12:15] <guiverc> sentiment, this may contain something (testdisk), but i've little experience with it sorry https://askubuntu.com/questions/3883/how-to-recover-deleted-files
[12:15] <TJ-> sentiment: depends on the file-system
[12:16] <sentiment> TJ-: it's ext4...
[12:16] <guiverc> actually forget my links sentiment - it was useless
[12:16] <TJ-> sentiment: if the files didn't cross a file-system boundary then 'mv' will only have changed the dirent pointers to the inodes and name, not move any data. The original mp3 data of all but the last file to be moved will be in unallocated blocks
[12:17] <TJ-> sentiment: try using extundelete
[12:17] <guiverc> (( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery is a better link, but still not that helpful , listen to TJ- ))
[12:18] <TJ-> !info extundelete | sentiment
[12:18] <sentiment> ok TJ- ... going to try that. thank you
[12:19] <TJ-> sentiment: and read the "man extundelete" thoroughly!
[12:19] <sentiment> I will. :-)
[12:22] <TJ-> sentiment: I suspect you'll need something like "sudo extundelete --restore-directory ~/Downloads /dev/sda3" or "sudo extundelete --restore-all /dev/sda3" (where /dev/sda3 is the partition containing the file-system)
[12:22] <TJ-> oh, gone! oh well, goodbye data!
[12:30] <new_gen> with latest update , I am getting a pop-up message asking which encoding to use on console.
[12:31] <fred1807> I need pango newr than 1.38 on Ubuntu 14.04  Is this possible? Is there some ppa I can get it?
[12:32] <tarzeau> probably easier to get 16.04 or 18.04
[12:32] <fred1807> it is aws ubuntu 14.04... Can I upgrade to 16.04 from command line without losing it all ?
[12:33] <chatkk> Hi. I'm trying to change the default scrollbar width, but ~/.config/gtk3.0/gtk.css is seemingly ignored. How can I tell if I'm really using gtk3?
[12:33] <pragmaticenigma> fred1807: You should contact AWS to verify
[12:33] <pragmaticenigma> chatkk: Depends on the program you are using and what libraries it is using to render the window
[12:34] <chatkk> pragmaticenigma: Know any way I can check? I've done * { background-color: red; } and it does nothing
[12:35] <chatkk> Obviously I load a new terminal or whatever so that it draws something new
[12:35] <pragmaticenigma> chatkk: Providing the channel more information is a good place to start
[12:36] <chatkk> Gladly, what do you need to know?
[12:36] <pragmaticenigma> !details | chatkk
[12:37] <chatkk> !pastebin
[12:37] <pragmaticenigma> chatkk: Also knowing what application you are trying to use
[12:37] <fred1807> should I run 'do-release-upgrade' inside a tmux session?
[12:38] <cfhowlett> do-release-upgrade -s will simulate but not execute
[12:38] <pragmaticenigma> fred1807: while I don't see it being a problem, I wouldn't recommend it
[12:39] <TJ-> fred1807: that's generally what I do, however d-r-u also starts uses screen/byobu and starts an additional sshd
[12:41] <pragmaticenigma> fred1807: I would recommend you read the documentation for AWS to find out the proper way to upgrade your AWS instance. They have documentation on it, and following it will reduce the chance your installation will break
[12:41] <chatkk> pragmaticenigma: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QC3PTCGWx7/
[12:42] <pragmaticenigma> chatkk: Cinnamon Desktop Environment uses GTK2
[12:42] <chatkk> pragmaticenigma: aha, thanks :)
[12:44] <chatkk> pragmaticenigma: weird that all the themes look like gtk3 themes though
[12:45] <pragmaticenigma> chatkk: I believe GTK2 and 3 both use the same theming file formats, but they look in different places. GTK3 supports more features than GTK2 though
[12:45] <chatkk> pragmaticenigma: ah, no, I've found the gtk2 themes now
[12:53] <Sevio> Hi, I've got a problem where I'm trying to upgrade a 14.04 system by commandline with apt-get dist-upgrade, but it holds back chromium-browser, refusing to install the update. If I run apt-get dist-upgrade -s chromium-browser it shows that it will remove the old package chromium-codecs-ffmpeg (needed for old chromium) and install chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra (needed for new chromium), so my question is why does dist-upgrade without arguments hold back
[12:53] <Sevio> chromium-browser?
[12:54] <Sevio> Everything I can find in the manual and online says that dist-upgrade will remove obsolete dependencies and install new ones as needed
[13:01] <kongfjord> howdy, anyone know how to get package/compile source of xlock/xlockmore in artful?
[13:04] <guiverc_d> kongfjord, artful (17.10) is EOL, so I'd suggest you do-release-upgrade to 18.04 LTS; the repo's will soon be moved to old-releases....
[13:09] <pragmaticenigma> Sevio: It is true old dependencies will be removed, but only when no other package requires it. You may have another software package installed that requires the older codecs module
[13:10] <Sevio> I checked that, only the current(old) chromium-browser depends on it so afaik that shouldn't prevent dist-upgrade from removing it
[13:10] <Sevio> Thanks for your reply, I'm out of time now though so I have to go
[13:10] <pragmaticenigma> Sevio: Something to try, removing or purging chromium and then installing though
[13:11] <pragmaticenigma> installing it again might clear out the sticking point
[13:11] <Sevio> Yeah I fixed it by dist-upgrading it explicitly with chromium-browser, but I was looking for a general solution
[13:11] <pragmaticenigma> or will help identify if there are other issues
[13:11] <pragmaticenigma> Sevio: might have been something in the cache ... sometimes apt-get clean all, apt-get autoclean will help
[13:12] <Sevio> Thanks, will try next time
[13:13] <pragmaticenigma> TJ-: Is there a way to determine if ACPI is enabled?
[13:14] <TJ-> pragmaticenigma: via dmesg, via /sys/firmware/acpi/
[13:15] <pragmaticenigma> an absense means it isn't available?
[13:16] <TJ-> pragmaticenigma: generally yes, or maybe parts of it aren't enabled/available. ACPI is essential these days though
[13:17] <pragmaticenigma> TJ-: True... if you remmeber my trusty laptop, it appears that the screen corrupt on power save was fixed by not letting the monitor go to sleep :-P
[13:17] <pragmaticenigma> so Looking for some troubleshooting ideas. dmesg and deep kernel level stuff just hasn't been my wheelhouse yet
[13:28] <leeyaa> hi
[13:29] <leeyaa> does mailutils package have some weird dependancy ?
[13:29] <leeyaa> trying to install it gives me mailutils : Depends: libmailutils5 but it is not going to be installed
[13:29] <mitsuha> hi
[13:29] <pragmaticenigma> leeyaa: Trying doing an update, then try installing. You might also need to clear apt cache
[13:30] <pragmaticenigma> trying => try
[13:30] <leeyaa> pragmaticenigma: already did that. im using a custom apt mirror. just not sure what am i missing
[13:30] <pragmaticenigma> leeyaa: custom apt mirror??
[13:30] <leeyaa> yes, a local apt mirror
[13:30] <mitsuha> hey guys, any one knows how to add unity like menu bar in 18.04 ?
[13:30] <pragmaticenigma> leeyaa: It could be that the local apt mirror is missing that package?
[13:31] <leeyaa> pragmaticenigma: not sure how to confirm that
[13:32] <leeyaa> ive mirrored whole 64 bit and 32 bit repo
[13:32] <pragmaticenigma> mitsuha: You can search for themes for Gnome 3, you can take a look at this guide (though it's dated) https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/make-gnome-shell-look-feel-like-unity, or you can install unity desktop in 18.04
[13:32] <leeyaa> here is my mirror config https://bpaste.net/show/292cfa43665a
[13:32] <leeyaa> maybe i am missing something in my local repo
[13:33] <pragmaticenigma> leeyaa: I'm not very familiar with setting up apt mirrors unfortunately... I wish I could help more
[13:34] <leeyaa> pragmaticenigma: do you know how to check which repo holds that package?
[13:35] <pragmaticenigma> leeyaa: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libmailutils5
[13:35] <pragmaticenigma> leeyaa: Appears to be in universe
[13:35] <leeyaa> yeah
[13:35] <leeyaa> well i have universe for both 64 bit and 32 bit
[13:35] <leeyaa> weird
[13:36] <leeyaa> ill try a different source mirror ...
[13:37] <pragmaticenigma> leeyaa: it is possible the mirror you selected might not have it, but that would be really strange. You might want to try the main Ubuntu url's. They're setup to automatically send you to the nearest official repo
[13:39] <leeyaa> pragmaticenigma: i know but that takes away control of packages for me
[13:40] <leeyaa> its either a local mirror or hardcoding packages versions
[13:40] <pragmaticenigma> leeyaa: I'm speaking on setting up your mirror to use the primary updates domain
[13:40] <leeyaa> oh
[13:40] <leeyaa> apologise, i didnt understand you at first
[13:40] <leeyaa> yes, this seems like a good approach
[13:42] <leeyaa> pragmaticenigma: is it archive.ubuntu.com
[13:42] <pragmaticenigma> leeyaa: I think so... not 100% certain
[13:44] <leeyaa> let's give it a whirl. thanks for the suggestions
[13:44] <leeyaa> it is not the first time i had issues with mirror.telepoint.bg mirror
[13:44] <pragmaticenigma> leeyaa: I believe that is correct, also adding a country code to the front might narrow it geographically centered location
[13:45] <pragmaticenigma> official mirrors are listed here, and give estimates on how far behind those mirrors are compared to the master https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[13:45] <leeyaa> thanks!
[14:00] <skinux> I need some help figuring out why I have to use older kernel to boot or system freezes on boot
[14:00] <skinux> I'm not sure what log to show.
[14:02] <compdoc> skinux, how was the newer kernel installed?
[14:03] <skinux> WIth the OS
[14:05] <TJ-> skinux: could it be an issue with the Intel spectre microcode updates? We were seeing a lot of that a few months ago
[14:05] <skinux> I don't even know what that means
[14:05] <skinux> I am using AMD I know that much
[14:07] <TJ-> skinux: the kernels contain code to avoid speculative execution data leaks. Some of those caused the same kind of symptoms. You could try adding to the kernel command line "nopti" - i think there's another option too but a long time since I needed to deal with that
[14:07] <skinux> How do I add it?
[14:10] <TJ-> its a kernel command-line option, so added via the GRUB boot menu
[14:10] <tomreyn> skinux: before you do this, you should discuss which kernel version you have that works and which you have that doesn't work
[14:10] <TJ-> skinux: at what point does the freeze happen? have you tried booting in recovery mode first, and watched the kernel messages?
[14:10] <skinux> Where do I find the boot list? It's not in /boot/grub
[14:11] <skinux> Depends on the Kernel version I select.
[14:11] <skinux> Latest kernel freezes at loading initial ramdisk
[14:11] <skinux> Kernel I'm running now it two versions old
[14:11] <TJ-> "latest" doesn't help us, we need version numbers :)
[14:13] <jnewt> what is the proper way to start the standard ui from terminal after booting?   i login, then if i do startx, i get the ui, but without menus.   if i do lightdm, i get the login ui (even though i'm already logged int via cli), but then can't login.
[14:13] <TJ-> skinux: try this: "grep '^[[:space:]]*linux' /boot/grub/grub.cfg | cut -d\  -f 1 "
[14:13] <skinux> How can I look up what versions are installed?
[14:13] <compdoc> jnewt, you installed Server and then a desktop?
[14:14] <TJ-> jnewt: "sudo systemctl start lightdm" ?
[14:14] <skinux> 4.13.10-45
[14:15] <jnewt> compdoc: no
[14:15] <jnewt> TJ-  and to get that to happen automatically?
[14:17] <tomreyn> skinux: grep -oE "(menuentry '[^']*'|vmlinuz[^ ]*)" /boot/grub/grub.cfg | pastebinit
[14:17] <TJ-> jnewt: "sudo systemctl enable lightdm"
[14:20] <jnewt> TJ- The unit file s have no installation config...This means they are not meant to be ennabled using systemctl.
[14:20] <TJ-> jnewt: what Ubuntu release is this?
[14:20] <skinux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zWxB772wyn/
[14:21] <jnewt> TJ-18.04
[14:21] <jnewt> LTS
[14:21] <TJ-> jnewt: something screwy there then! this has been the standard way to control lightdm for years
[14:21] <tomreyn> skinux: whopse kernels are vmlinuz-4.15.0-1011-kvm ?
[14:21] <TJ-> Are you sure it's using lightdm, and not gdm3?
[14:21] <skinux> tomeryn: Do you use TeamViewer?
[14:22] <tomreyn> skinux: how does it matter whether or not i do?
[14:22] <skinux> If you do, I'll let you remote
[14:22] <tomreyn> no, thanks
[14:22] <leftyfb> skinux: that's now how we do support here
[14:23] <tomreyn> skinux: so which kernel works, which doesn't?
[14:23] <skinux> How do I get the current in use version?
[14:23] <tomreyn> skinux: cat /proc/version
[14:23] <jnewt> TJ-I can't really answer that question, as i don't know what "it" is.    I can try to give some more info though.  I have both lightdm and gdm3 on my system.  I can start lightdm from the cli at boot.  I don't know if i can start gdm3
[14:24] <skinux> 4.15.0-24 is the working one, later version don't.
[14:24] <Katnip> is 4.15.0.29 the newest kernel for 18.04.1?
[14:24] <TJ-> jnewt: "it" is the installed OS? if you installed standard Ubuntu 18.04 it uses gdm not lightdm now as its DM
[14:24] <tomreyn> skinux: and you're on 18.04.1 ? lsb_release -ds
[14:24] <TJ-> jnewt: which may be why you got the unusual message from lightdm
[14:25] <skinux> 18.04.1 LTS
[14:25] <TJ-> !info linux-image-generic
[14:25] <jnewt> TJ-the installed OS is not using either automatically.   It will use whichever one I tell i too i guess.  I just verified it will use lightdm if I type sudo lightdm from cli.  i'll try gdm too for completeness
[14:26] <tomreyn> skinux: what exactly happens when it doesn't work?
[14:26] <tomreyn> Katnip: yes
[14:26] <jnewt> TJ-lightdm - gives login screen, won't login.   gdm - blank screen when started.
[14:27] <skinux> It freezes at loading initial ramfisk
[14:27] <skinux> It freezes at loading initial ramdisk
[14:27] <Katnip> tomreyn, ty
[14:28] <tomreyn> skinux: can you show dpkg -l amd64-microcode intel-microcode
[14:29] <skinux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zyRZKTwm85/
[14:31] <tomreyn> skinux: so the "Ubuntu, with Linux 4.15.0-29-generic" and the "Ubuntu, with Linux 4.15.0-1011-kvm" grub entries both do make it freeze, right?
[14:32] <skinux> Yeah.
[14:34] <tomreyn> skinux: try running this, then reboot into each of them, see if it's fixed: sudo update-initramfs -ck 4.15.0-1011-kvm; sudo update-initramfs -ck 4.15.0-29-generic
[14:35] <TJ-> jnewt: it's not entirely clear what is going on there, there should only be one DM - did you install multiple flavours/desktops such as Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu ?
[14:37] <lowkeycoat1> Can i boot from a raid?
[14:37] <tomreyn> skinux: also show this, please: sudo dmidecode --type bios --type baseboard --type system | grep -iv serial | pastebinit
[14:38] <TJ-> lowkeycoat1: that depends on what type of RAID, if it's hardware, yes
[14:39] <TJ-> lowkeycoat1: for software RAID it depends if GRUB bootloader supports it, whether UEFI/SecureBoot is enabled, and so on
[14:39] <tomreyn> lowkeycoat1: software raid, too, if some conditions are met.
[14:39] <skinux> Output of first set of commands https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/a8504215d7f51a8ee4d198da7be2b3d4
[14:40] <skinux> Output of that last one http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QqnkgFRfpc/
[14:40] <tomreyn> skinux: which brings us back to the question where you got this kernel image from
[14:40] <skinux> It installed when I installed the system
[14:40] <skinux>  I didn't specifically install it.
[14:41] <tomreyn> skinux: how did you install?
[14:41] <skinux> From ISO
[14:41] <TJ-> skinux: is this on a 'cloud' VPS ?
[14:41] <skinux> No
[14:41] <lowkeycoat1> Is there a website you can direct me to.. to make a hardware raid?
[14:41] <tomreyn> skinux: but it's a 'cloud' / 'oem' kernel
[14:41] <skinux> News to me
[14:42] <skinux> Do I need to do a reinstall?
[14:42] <tomreyn> skinux: cat /var/log/installer/media-info
[14:42] <oerheks> skinux, iirc, this is in virtualbox?
[14:42] <skinux> No.
[14:43] <skinux> Is there a way to remove this kernel and install a good one?
[14:43] <skinux> Or do I need to do a fresh install?
[14:44] <TJ-> skinux: ahhh, I see now
[14:44] <TJ-> !info linux-image-4.15.0-1011-kvm
[14:44] <skinux> So, what do I need to do here?
[14:45] <lowkeycoat1> Full story: i have multiple usb sticks, none of which are big enough to install the os, i can boot a live session with the one i have but im looking for a full system and my only option is a hardware raid.... Is this idea possible?
[14:46] <EriC^^> lowkeycoat1: why? usb's suck for os
[14:46] <tomreyn> skinux: you already have 'good' kernels installed, it's just not clear what type of ubuntu you're running there and thus its unclear which of these kernels you should be using.
[14:47] <Pcost8300> Hello and good morning, could you please help me. I have the following issue. We have a dedicated server on another part of the world with the service of server4you, i cant connect through ssh it keeps telling that the connection timed out... I read it could be an ufw modification or the ssh daemon not starting... but is there another possible solution? thak you in advance for your response. USING UBUNTU SERVER 14
[14:47] <jnewt> TJ-how do i figure out what is going on.   i don't want to rely on what I "think" I did over the past however long.
[14:47] <tomreyn> skinux: this is a bios upgrade for your system, you should / need to install it. doing so should also fix this issue. https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/swdetails/hp-15-f300-notebook-pc-series-touch/8961458/model/10098384/swItemId/ob-215144-1?sku=N5Y09UA
[14:48] <TJ-> !info linux-image-4.15.0-1011-kvm
[14:48] <lowkeycoat1> I agree but its better than nothing as my hardrive went kaput and i need something for work
[14:48] <TJ-> silly bot! It does exist! https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic-updates/linux-image-4.15.0-1011-kvm
[14:49] <compdoc> Pcost8300, have them reboot it, or have a look at it
[14:49] <skinux> I guess I need to boot into Windows to install it?
[14:49] <TJ-> lowkeycoat1: maybe a "persistent Live" environment could work with the persistence storage spread over more than 1 device
[14:50] <EriC^^> lowkeycoat1: there's some guy on youtube who made a raided usb
[14:50] <EriC^^> lowkeycoat1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dougISKs2vQ
[14:50] <lowkeycoat1> Thanks Eric, tj can you clarify what you mean?
[14:51] <TJ-> jnewt: It's not clear what is going on, or how the system is configured the way it is. You're in the best position to know, not us :)
[14:51] <compdoc> jnewt wasnt handing out much info
[14:52] <TJ-> lowkeycoat1: there's an option in one or more of some bootable USB creation tools that enable creating a persistent storage layer on the USB so although it boots the 'live' environment it has an overlay for additional programs, files, and data to be retained over a shutdown
[14:52] <cavillis> !ltsupgrade
[14:55] <Pcost8300> We rebooted it already but nothing happened
[14:55] <jnewt> compdoc: I'm not witholding on purpose.   I just don't know.   I'm more of an ubuntu user in the general sense, and don't know much about the inner workings or the underlying systems.   I just want my OS that stays out of the way and doesn't cause issues like this.  I don't really want to learn every little thing about it, but will get whatever you guys need to help me out, but I need to know what info is important before I start a dump
[14:55] <jnewt> of everything I know here.
[14:55] <EriC^^> !persistance | lowkeycoat1
[14:56] <EriC^^> !persistant | lowkeycoat1
[14:58] <tomreyn> lowkeycoat1: is it a matter of time, availability or money which prevents you just replacing the failed disk by a new one?
[14:58] <lowkeycoat1> But doesn't persistence require me to use a usb creation tool?
[14:58] <lowkeycoat1> Tom : time
[14:59] <genii> tomreyn: If they can't afford an USB stick large enough to dd the install image onto, who knows
[14:59] <lowkeycoat1> Well currently money/time im getting a new drive later this week
[15:00] <tomreyn> lowkeycoat1: i see. for the future, have one spare, or better a mirror raid, or even better both mirror raid and a space drive.
[15:01] <tomreyn> lowkeycoat1: how large is your largest usb stick?
[15:02] <SeTunTun> Hi. I am using Rhythmbox in ubuntu 14.04 nd installed the visualizations plugin to have some visual analyzers.
[15:02] <tomreyn> lowkeycoat1: and to answer your question, yes, persistence requires using the usb-creator utility (to my knowledge)
[15:02] <lowkeycoat1> 2gb which is the one i have as bootable
[15:02] <SeTunTun> If I right-clic on the visuala effects screen I can see a list of effects but they are all blocked. Could anybody help?
[15:03] <lowkeycoat1> The rest are 1gb or less, and i have no current os to use to, use a usb creation tool
[15:04] <tomreyn> lowkeycoat1: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/ch03s04.html
[15:05] <tomreyn> lowkeycoat1: so if you dont want a desktop, it can be done
[15:05] <genii> The server image is small, and also allows to install / to a RAID, after that you can install <whatever-*buntu>-desktop
[15:06] <tomreyn> genii: and that's where lowkeycoat1 will run out of space
[15:06] <tomreyn> lowkeycoat1: so i think you want to get a replacement disk asap.
[15:07] <tomreyn> lowkeycoat1: do yourself a favor, get an ssd (or nvme, if your computer supports it)
[15:11] <lowkeycoat1> The plan is ssd. So here is ?. Can i change the write and read function in live mode to a different usb ( i understand i would have to do this every time i restart it)
[15:13] <lowkeycoat1> Or.. can i install desktop on an external hardrive without losing anything thats on it?
[15:13] <tomreyn> lowkeycoat1: i would not know how. what you could do is boot off the live / installer image, and mount another usb drive at some directory, and store your files there.
[15:13] <lowkeycoat1> The external in question is used with Windows
[15:14] <tomreyn> lowkeycoat1: when installing to any disk which already has data on it, this bears the potential of data loss (unless you have backups, of course, which you should have)
[15:14] <tomreyn> generally, ubuntu is able to install to drives with existing data / partitions on it and retaining them.
[15:15] <oerheks> no OS guarantees "without losing anything thats on it"
[15:16] <airking> Hello!  We're having an issue with VNC.  I'm using the correct password, but it still refuses the VNC connection
[15:16] <skinux> That BIOS update fixed the latest non-KVM kernel
[15:16] <airking> I even changed to password and tried again
[15:16] <skinux> SO, I guess I can't use KVM
[15:17] <skinux> What file to I edit to make th non-KVM kernel the default?
[15:17] <tomreyn> skinux: why can you not use kvm with the 'non-kvm' kernel?
[15:17] <skinux> I meant I cannot use the KVM kernel to boot.
[15:18] <tomreyn> skinux: i would just uninstall the 'kvm' kernel image if you don't need it. but then i don't know which ubuntu you have there, and whether it should be using this kernel.
[15:18] <skinux> Ubuntu Bionic
[15:18] <skinux> Oh..I have Ubuntu Studio
[15:18] <tomreyn> skinux: there are several variants. do you remember the name of the iso file you used to install?
[15:19] <skinux> Do I just uninstal KVM using apt?
[15:19] <JuJUBee> My computer booted to grub> menu.  I booted from USB and can mount the bood HDD, can someone help me fix?
[15:19] <skinux> No I don't.
[15:20] <skinux> AL I did was go to the website and clicked download
[15:20] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: try "configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[15:20] <tomreyn> skinux: i'd say just uninstall the image which has 'kvm' in it then.
[15:21] <compdoc> skinux, I use apt to install KVM, and it does not use a different kernel than normal
[15:21] <skinux> I just want to make the system not use that kernel by default
[15:21] <JuJUBee> EriC^^: command not found
[15:21] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: try "insmod normal"
[15:21] <skinux> Reinstalling takes time that I don't wan to spend right now
[15:21] <EriC^^> then "normal"
[15:22] <JuJUBee> EriC^^: insmod: ERROR: could not load module normal: No such file or directory
[15:22] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: type "echo $prefix"
[15:22] <skinux> Where is the grub menu.lst stored now?
[15:22] <JuJUBee> EriC^^: blank line
[15:22] <EriC^^> skinux: that's grub1, grub2 uses /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[15:22] <tomreyn> skinux: https://askubuntu.com/questions/216398/set-older-kernel-as-default-grub-entry
[15:22] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: what does "ls -l" show?
[15:23] <tomreyn> skinux: i haven't tried this guide, but guess it could work
[15:23] <JuJUBee> EriC^^: the contents of current directory, do you want me to do that from / on the USB?
[15:23] <EriC^^> skinux: do "grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg" and get the name and put it next to GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub then sudo update-grub
[15:24] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: huh? i thought you were in grub?
[15:24] <JuJUBee> EriC^^:  no, booted from USB live
[15:24] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[15:25] <JuJUBee> http://termbin.com/ap5w
[15:25] <tomreyn> lowkeycoat1: in case your android phone is rooted and has sufficient space available, you could also boot off it.
[15:26] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: let me logout and back in, i have some xorg copy/paste issue
[15:26] <lowkeycoat1> I was kinda thinking that
[15:29] <JuJUBee> EriC^^: this all started when my 2T drive /dev/sdd started acting up.
[15:29] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: aha, which disk has the install?
[15:29] <JuJUBee> sdc1
[15:30] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: ok, type "sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt"
[15:30] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: acting up how?
[15:30] <JuJUBee> EriC^^: already mounted on /media/xubuntu/f6f.....blah
[15:30] <JuJUBee> should I unmount it
[15:31] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: yeah it's easier that way
[15:32] <JuJUBee> EriC^^: done
[15:32] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: type "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done"
[15:33] <JuJUBee> with or without sudo?
[15:33] <EriC^^> with sudo
[15:33] <EriC^^> before mount -B
[15:33] <JuJUBee> done
[15:34] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: ok, "sudo chroot /mnt"
[15:34] <JuJUBee> done
[15:34] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: grub-install --recheck /dev/sdc
[15:35] <JuJUBee> EriC^^: done
[15:35] <JuJUBee> No error reported
[15:35] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: what's on /dev/sda1 ? the 20gb one
[15:35] <JuJUBee> Pretty sure an old install 14.04
[15:35] <EriC^^> aha i see
[15:35] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: ok, type "update-grub"
[15:36] <JuJUBee> EriC^^: done
[15:37] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: let's check sdc's health ok?
[15:37] <JuJUBee> how?
[15:38] <EriC^^> apt-get install smartmontools && smartctl -a /dev/sdc | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:38] <JuJUBee> working now
[15:39] <JuJUBee> I mean installing...
[15:39] <JuJUBee> http://termbin.com/15w6
[15:40] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: it's on its way out, needs to be replaced
[15:41] <JuJUBee> What part tells you that?
[15:41] <EriC^^> 27 sectors are bad til now, with 17 uncorrectable
[15:41] <EriC^^> 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   036    Pre-fail  Always       -       10
[15:41] <EriC^^> 198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   098   000    Old_age   Offline      -       17
[15:42] <JuJUBee> Crap
[15:42] <tomreyn> this disk has been powered on for almost 9 years ;)
[15:42] <JuJUBee> Any chance we can try to recover my 2TB drive?
[15:43] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: sure you can recover it and copy it over to a new drive
[15:43] <EriC^^> gddrescue is good at recovering from stubborn disks
[15:43] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: are you able to mount the filesystem?
[15:43] <JuJUBee> EriC^^: I will have a look at it
[15:44] <JuJUBee> EriC^^: no, mount: /dev/sdd is already mounted or /foo busy
[15:45] <JuJUBee> I think it is shot... :(
[15:45] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: what does "mount | grep /dev/sdd" show?
[15:45] <JuJUBee> nothing
[15:45] <JuJUBee> im still in chroot
[15:45] <JuJUBee> does that matter?
[15:46] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: yeah
[15:46] <JuJUBee> OK, just exited...
[15:46] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: try "lsblk" anything there?
[15:46] <JuJUBee> Turns out /dev/sdd is my portable 2T hdd, think the internal is dead...
[15:48] <JuJUBee> EriC^^: thanks for the help.
[15:48] <JuJUBee> Think i will order new drives
[15:49] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: alright, when you restart the pc, enter the bios and make sure the right hdd is selected as first boot priority
[15:49] <JuJUBee> will do, thanks again
[15:50] <padarc> i need a hint please: Where can i look why my touchpad freezes ONLY after standby with SDDM enabled, but not with lightdm etc?
[15:50] <EriC^^> no problem
[15:57] <JuJUBee> EriC^^: any idea how to tell tar to ignore files beginning with . ?  Want to backup what I can from /home but ignore all the config folders...
[15:58] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: "tar czvf backup.tar.gz /home/user/*" should do it i guess
[15:58] <TJ-> JuJUBee: tar --exclude=./.* ... I think is the syntax
[15:59] <JuJUBee> EriC^^: not working, still getting .config
[16:00] <JuJUBee> TJ If I put the exclude after the tar -czvf .... get error
[16:00] <EriC^^> JuJUBee: try putting the --exclude at the very end
[16:01] <JuJUBee> the command works now, but getting .cache
[16:02] <JuJUBee> Wonder if it is something like [^\.+] ?
[16:03] <JuJUBee> Got it... --exclude=".*"
[16:04] <skinux> Thank you for the help earlier, tomreyn and others. I have have a working default boot
[16:04] <JuJUBee> Thanks to both for pointing me right direction...
[16:05] <coz_> hey all
[16:06] <texla> Ubuntu 16.04 System running in low graphics mode..error will not clear when pressing ok..now on live dvd how do i correct problem
[16:06] <xjkx> Do you recommend any firewall, like able to get in apt-get, with GUI, easy to use, coming like pre-configured with default stuff just for desktop use? I guess the system should be secure enough without, but I guess having is better than not having one
[16:07] <hggdh> xjkx: Ubuntu comes with ufw/gufw, which is simple enough
[16:08] <oerheks> install gufw, and the settings are available in systemsettings
[16:08] <oerheks> !info gufw
[16:09] <oerheks> sudo ufw logging on # this helps enabling a log in /var/log/
[16:11] <xjkx> I stayed some time without linux, I used iptables back then, is it like ufw is more user-approachable, or iptables was like replaced already?
[16:11] <oerheks> ufw is based on iptables
[16:12] <xjkx> Oh, ok, thanks, I will install gufw now
[16:14] <texla> Ubuntu 16.04 System running in low graphics mode..error will not clear when pressing ok..now on live dvd how do i correct problem
[16:16] <texla> Intel haswell mobile 64 bit..display builtin display 192x1080 (16.9}
[16:22] <oerheks> texla, did it ever run properly?
[16:22] <oerheks> try 18.04 with newer xorg/intel drivers
[16:24] <texla> Yes it has only after use this morning and reboot did  it start I can get to tty but do not  know which command to use
[16:25] <oerheks> i have this line stored: boot, hold shift, go into recovery (alt F1 make RW), and login, perform: sudo dpkg --configure -a ### run update -f
[16:27] <texla> Ok thanks will use that then 18.04 later
[16:28] <TJ-> texla: in place of "hold shift" "repeatedly tap Esc" - GRUB uses the Esc key now because holding shift won't work on UEFI
[16:29] <oerheks> oh uefi, missed that part, haswell + uefi is logical
[16:29] <texla> Not uefi
[16:32] <liyingzhe> hi?
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> liyingzhe: can we help you?
[16:33] <liyingzhe> There is no robot here?
[16:33] <liyingzhe> hi
[16:35] <liyingzhe> hi
[16:35] <oerheks> !bot
[16:35] <nacc> liyingzhe: what is your ubuntu support question?
[16:42] <Pcost8300> Hello, how do i disable silent parameters on ubuntu server 14? I have a problem and my provider tells that the server boots and when it tries to go to the Os it goes back to PXE.
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> Pcost8300: checkout the #ubuntu-server channel, they might know that one
[16:44] <Pcost8300> lotuspsychje thank you
[16:45] <leftyfb> Pcost8300: edit /etc/default/grub and remove quiet from the boot parameters. Then run sudo update-grub
[16:56] <johan_> johan welkom01
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> johan_: can we help you?
[17:02] <mrmoonz> hello
[17:03] <mrmoonz> hello
[17:03] <nacc> mrmoonz: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[17:04] <neurre> ugh
[17:04] <neurre> so I tried to upgrade from 17.10 to 18.04
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> neurre: 17.10 is end of life
[17:04] <neurre> upgrading has stuck in cleaning up phase
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> !eolupgrade | neurre
[17:05] <neurre> yeah i know that
[17:05] <neurre> so i tried upgrade
[17:05] <neurre> and it is stuck
[17:05] <neurre> every time i try upgrade it fails
[17:05] <neurre> so that sucks
[17:05] <neurre> is there something i can do?
[17:05] <neurre> perhaps now since it is cleaning up phase, maybe it will boot?
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> neurre: did you do it the eol upgrade way?
[17:05] <neurre> yeah
[17:06] <neurre> well a dialog sayd 17.10 is eol, you should upgrade, so i said go ahead
[17:06] <neurre> and now it is stuck
[17:06] <neurre> "Searching for obsolete software"
[17:06] <neurre> terminal says processing triggers for libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:amd64 (2.36.11-2)
[17:07] <neurre> should I try to reboot or what?
[17:07] <neurre> I can still do stuff in shell
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> neurre: did you have external ppa's added before your upgrade?
[17:08] <neurre> yeah
[17:08] <neurre> google chrome, visual studio code, i think those use ppa
[17:08] <neurre> anyway dialog said external sources have been disabled
[17:08] <neurre> and I could re-enable after upgrade
[17:09] <causative> I'm having a weird issue with my top status bar in 18.04, looks like this:  https://i.imgur.com/EXIosQA.png  you can see there is a lot of blank space in the middle causing the time and date to be pushed off the screen
[17:09] <causative> it also gradually gets worse the longer the computer is running, initially it is displayed OK but after it's been running for a few days it is pushed off, eventually the other icons at top right will be pushed off too
[17:09] <neurre> ls
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> causative: what was the last indicator you installed?
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> neurre: did you make a backup before upgrade?
[17:16] <neurre> no space for that
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> neurre: or wait till upgrade finish, or abort at own risk and try a reboot?
[17:16] <neurre> it was stuck
[17:16] <neurre> not making any progress
[17:16] <neurre> but I rebooted it
[17:16] <neurre> seems to be usable
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> neurre: try again sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade now
[17:17] <neurre> lsb_release -a says i already have 18.04
[17:17] <neurre> doing apt update now
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> neurre: 18.04.1? and kernel .29?
[17:18] <neurre> 18.04.1
[17:18] <neurre> doessnt show kernel
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> neurre: uname -a
[17:18] <neurre> 4.15.0-29-generic
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> neurre: looks good mate
[17:24] <lezsakdomi> Hi!
[17:24] <lezsakdomi> How is Ubuntu and Debian related?
[17:25] <lezsakdomi> Is it possible to "upgrade" from debian to ubuntu in a safe way?
[17:25] <petro> need to change the name to what is more appropriate....crashbuntu
[17:25] <Slart> lezsakdomi: Ubuntu is based on debian afaik.. and I would say that no.. upgrading from one to the other is probably not a good idea
[17:25] <lezsakdomi> I've read on multiple forums, that rewriting the sources.list should work. Is it true, or is it the newbies' trap?
[17:26] <ryuo> lezsakdomi: it's not recommended. while changes are shared in source packages, it's not guaranteed to work.
[17:26] <Slart> lezsakdomi: I'm not saying that there aren't ways of making it work but reinstalling is highly recommended.. unless you really really know what you're doing ie in a position where you could answer these questions yourself
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> !debian | lezsakdomi
[17:27] <Slart> lezsakdomi:
[17:28] <eelstrebor> hmm, what happened to /etc/default/grub? it's nowhere on my system - ubuntu 16.04.4 64 bit kernel 4.17.11-041711-generic
[17:28] <Slart> eelstrebor:  isn't there a grub.d folder now?
[17:28] <nacc> eelstrebor: why are you running the mainline kernel, btw?
[17:29] <nacc> eelstrebor: hard for us to know what happend to a file on your system. it should be there, yes.
[17:30] <Slart> eelstrebor: the file is there on my system.. don't know why it isn't on yours
[17:31] <eelstrebor> somehow it disappeared - i have no idea when it went bye-bye
[17:31] <confusedaboutswa> Hi all
[17:31] <lezsakdomi> Slart, ryuo: Thanks for the info. Specially my VPN provider supports only installing debian based systems but not ubuntu based. And it starts to be irritating. Did you mean that is it possible by replacing sources.list and then fixing things up?
[17:31] <confusedaboutswa> I am having some issues with swap
[17:31] <confusedaboutswa> getting two swap listed
[17:32] <confusedaboutswa> and boot issues with cryptswap setup
[17:32] <confusedaboutswa> even though it resolves by itself after booting
[17:32] <confusedaboutswa> here's the logs
[17:32] <confusedaboutswa> I have spend many hours trying to debug this to no avail
[17:33] <Slart> lezsakdomi: it might work.. but you're on your own if you run into problems.. and you most probably will.. I would actually recommend going with debian.. it's not that different
[17:33] <lezsakdomi> Slart: I would try in docker first :)
[17:33] <eelstrebor> hmm, i just checked another computer and the file is missing there also
[17:34] <Slart> lezsakdomi: good idea
[17:39] <confusedaboutswa> so I have two swap right now
[17:39] <confusedaboutswa> loop0 and /dev/mapper/cryptsetup
[17:39] <confusedaboutswa> I am pretty sure they are pointing to the same physical block of space
[17:39] <confusedaboutswa> how do I reconcile the two?
[17:39] <confusedaboutswa> loop0 according to disks is /swapfile
[17:40] <hiya> is it safe to upgrade to 18.04.1 from 16.04?
[17:40] <confusedaboutswa> but all my cryptswap is configured using /swapfile
[17:40] <confusedaboutswa> so I don't know why is there two swaps
[17:40] <confusedaboutswa> this issue appeared after I upgraded from ubuntu 17 to ubuntu 18
[17:42] <Slart> hiya: most probably yes.. backups are always good though
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> hiya: lts upgrade path has yet to come, will come soon
[17:43] <Slart> !lts
[17:43] <hiya> lotuspsychje, in days?
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | hiya
[17:43] <hiya> lotuspsychje, but 18.04.1 is out there
[17:44] <compdoc> the ubuntu flavors like Ubuntu-Mate havent released 18.04.1  :(
[17:44] <hiya> it is not late but last day of july, i believe?
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> hiya: .1 is out yes, but for lts upgrade from xenial, things still need to be done
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> hiya: let the devs do their jobs, for a good release experience
[17:44] <hiya> :d
[17:44] <hiya> ok
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> hiya: your on desktop?
[17:45] <hiya> lotuspsychje, how to downgrade server to 16.04?
[17:45] <hiya> possible?
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> hiya: ubuntu doesnt do downgrades
[17:45] <hiya> ok, so reinstall?
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> hiya: yes
[17:46] <MarcGuay> Hi folks.   I have Ubuntu 14.04 installed alongside WIndows 7, they each have their own partition (actually Windows has 2), and I'm given the choice between them when I boot up.  I would like to delete Windows as I no longer use it, and give the HD space back to another partition.  Here's a screenshot from Disks: https://ibb.co/jQxMw8.
[17:47] <MarcGuay> Any help to accomplish this would be appreciated.  I *believe* that Grub is installed on the same partition as Ubuntu (#5).
[17:47] <MarcGuay> Since when I'm booted into Ubuntu there is a /boot/grub directory - perhaps there's a better way to verify this.
[17:48] <alskgdjlkj> hi
[17:48] <confusedaboutswa> any suggestions for reconcilling the swap?
[17:48] <sentiment> hello guys. I want to mv files from a directory to another using find -exec command. here is the command : find source "*.txt" -depth -exec mv "{}" target \;
[17:48] <sentiment> but that doesn't work .
[17:48] <sentiment> doesn't work as intended.
[17:49] <sentiment> first it generates an error : find: ‘*.txt’: No such file or directory
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> !chroot | MarcGuay from a liveusb to resize
[17:50] <sentiment> second, it moves everything in source directory to the target directory which is fine. BUT it also moves the source directory itself without its content.
[17:50] <alskgdjlkj> hello
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> !swap | confusedaboutswa
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> sentiment: perhaps more a question for #bash
[17:51] <alskgdjlkj> hi
[17:51] <sentiment> lotuspsychje: oh OK. thanks :-)
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> alskgdjlkj: can we help you?
[17:52] <confusedaboutswa> ubottu: i know what it is
[17:52] <alskgdjlkj> I
[17:52] <confusedaboutswa> lotuspsychje: the issue is there's two after upgrade
[17:53] <MarcGuay> lotuspsychje: How can I be sure that the Windows partitions can safely be deleted?  Is the presence of /boot/grub enough to guarantee that the grub bootloader is on the partition?
[17:53] <confusedaboutswa> a swapfile and a cryptswap partition
[17:53] <confusedaboutswa> I configured the cryptswap to use the swapfile
[17:53] <confusedaboutswa> but disks keep showing two separate devices
[17:55] <confusedaboutswa> lotuspsychje: https://www.pastery.net/qthsjk/
[17:56] <confusedaboutswa> (ignore the squashfs those are just docker containers)
[17:56] <franknog> #linux
[17:58] <causative> lotuspsychje, last thing I added was the system-monitor shell extension that adds resource usage graphs to the top bar
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> causative: could that be the one that making space?
[17:58] <causative> idk I'll have to reboot to find out
[17:59] <causative> disabling it didn't free up any space
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> causative: try as a test perhaps
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> causative: i had some bug on indicator-multiload
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> on bionic
[18:00] <causative> hwo can I get software updater to stop asking me "Please enter passphrase for disk ubuntu--vg-swap_1 (cryptswap1) on none!" 20 times when I go to update software?
[18:01] <causative> it doesn't even seem to matter if I give a wrong password, it gives no errors if I just enter nothing but I have to press enter
[18:02] <confusedaboutswa> lotuspsychje: any advice?
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> confusedaboutswa: sorry never messed with cryptswap
[18:03] <Ben64> confusedaboutswa: i'm sure it's normal
[18:04] <n89084> i’m looking for an explanation on what « journald » is and what that changes with bleachbit.
[18:04] <confusedaboutswa> Ben64: so nothing to worry about?
[18:05] <Ben64> confusedaboutswa: if the system is working then it seems like there is nothing to worry about
[18:06] <Sbur3> Anyone wanna explain what « journald » is and why, when I start bleachbit, it tells me that it can’t clean journald
[18:06] <oerheks> cryptswap, swapfile, "I configured the cryptswap to use the swapfile" .. really?
[18:06] <Sbur3> I am using Ubuntu 18.04
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> Sbur3: if bleachbit says it cant delete...
[18:07] <cyberspectre> On ubuntu server, the default web directory accessible by http is /var/www/html. I need to be able to scp upload files to that directory with one command, which isn't possible because root. Can this directory be changed to somewhere in the home directory?
[18:07] <Sbur3> lotuspsychje Why can’t it delete or clean out journald?
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> cyberspectre: checkout the #ubuntu-server channel mate
[18:07] <cyberspectre> lotuspsychje, thank you
[18:07] <oerheks> cyberspectre, tons of pages abou tthat issue, add your user to www-data
[18:08] <Ben64> cyberspectre: you can add configs to apache to put different sites in different spots, like home directories
[18:08] <Sbur3> lotuspsychje Where do you think I can find the answer?
[18:09] <Ben64> Sbur3: you'd probably have to run it as root to delete that, but i wouldn't recommend doing so
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> Sbur3: systemd-journald is a system service that collects and stores logging data
[18:09] <oerheks> Sbur3, tell bleachbit not to clean journald log, nor clean /dev/random/
[18:11] <Sbur3> lotuspsychje Ben64 oerheks What I don’t understand is that it seems to want to clean it. There might be a reason to do so.
[18:11] <Sbur3> Ben64 would it crash the system?
[18:11] <Ben64> maybe
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> Sbur3: with bleachbit, you always have to scan carefull...dont just scan away
[18:12] <oerheks> Sbur3, such actions need suo right, and bleachbit advises not to use that if you are unfamiliair with linux
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> Sbur3: if you dont know what option to enable, dont enable it
[18:12] <oerheks> but ignore the warnings and go for it, reinstall takes just 30 minutes :-D
[18:13] <Sbur3> Ben64 That would be a reason to not delete it. This said, the fact that bleachbit « Wants » to clean it ... Strange
[18:13] <Ben64> it doesn't want anything
[18:14] <Sbur3> Ben64 What I mean is that it seems in the program ... in the code of the program.
[18:15] <Ben64> it has a list of things and lets you choose what to delete
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> Sbur3: bleachbit likes cleaning logs, journald has logs..
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> Sbur3: if you enabled everything, it will scan everything
[18:15] <Sbur3> lotuspsychje ok. not a problem. thx for the feedback
[18:16] <Sbur3> bye
[18:16] <oerheks> Sbur3, good news, version 1.12 Add journald cleaner (thanks to tstenner). https://www.bleachbit.org/news/bleachbit-20
[18:16] <oerheks> oh
[18:26] <raynold> ahh it's a wonderful day
[18:50] <iNz3o> hi all - I recently installed Ubuntu 18.04.1 and am having a problem getting autofs working correctly... the mounts are created successfully without an error, but when attempting to browse the share, nothing is listed... any ideas?
[18:52] <pikapika> Hi
[18:53] <pikapika> From past experiences, how likely do you think it is that an 'do-release-upgrade' simply corrupts the whole system or even causes any problems?
[18:53] <nacc> pikapika: from what to what?
[18:53] <pikapika> lts to lts
[18:54] <pikapika> I'd want to go from 16.04 to 18.04 whenever its "officially" possible
[18:54] <pikapika> via do-release-upgrade
[18:54] <pikapika> But just wondering if this process causes problems vs fresh install
[18:54] <nacc> pikapika: not typically; it depends oftne on your use of third party repositories, binary applications, etc.
[18:55] <nacc> pikapika: presuming you have a relatively stock configuration, it hsould be fine
[18:55] <pikapika> Is there any list compiled of "problem" apps, ppas, etc for this specific path?
[18:56] <nacc> pikapika: no, i mean, it depends, generally
[18:56] <pikapika> nacc, also will it reset the desktop to gnome? Which settings are reset?
[18:56] <nacc> pikapika: i believe it will in this case (but i'm not sure, i'd read the release notes)
[18:57] <pikapika> So is there any official source on which programs/settings etc are reset and which stay as it is?
[18:57] <oerheks> why would programs reset on upgrade??
[18:57] <oerheks> !releasenotes
[18:58] <oerheks> this is all the valuable info
[18:58] <pikapika> idk, I am thinking it will try to install everything old stock release had plus new, for example I removed gnome...maybe it will reinstall it?
[18:59] <hggdh> pikapika: it will install the Ubuntu desktop, which depends on gnome everywhere
[19:00] <pikapika> Which also means it will reset a lot of things in /etc folder among other places right?
[19:00] <pikapika> Because afaik the display manager is set somewhere in /etc
[19:00] <oerheks> you can always reinstall ubuntu-unity-desktop afterwards
[19:00] <oerheks> !info ubuntu-unity-desktop
[19:00] <hggdh> in general, any changes to configuration files in /etc will be shown to you for acceptance
[19:00] <pikapika> oh
[19:00] <pikapika> will it delete the existing xfce?
[19:00] <nacc> it's the per-user settings that are not controlled
[19:01] <oerheks> ohh you run xubuntu, no, xfce will not be removed
[19:01] <pikapika> actually
[19:01] <oerheks> nor you will get gnome
[19:02] <pikapika> It was a standard ubuntu, I didnt like the default so I installed the 'xubuntu-desktop'
[19:02] <hggdh> if xubuntu-desktop is installed, then it will be upgraded
[19:02] <pikapika> oh so in that case it will not try to install the gnome or whatever right?
[19:03] <pikapika> or it will and I'll have the option to choose from display manager?
[19:04] <pikapika> Because if it changes this thing, god knows what else it will change
[19:05] <oerheks> multiple desktops, yes you might run into displaymanager choices
[19:05] <oerheks> but i think you already seen that
[19:06] <pikapika> I hope gnome is compatible, some desktops/wms dont seem to like to coexist
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> pikapika: didnt you install ubuntu 18.04 when it was released??
[19:06] <pikapika> But anyways, the bigger question is, if it installs and adds settings for a gnome, then what else does it modify/install in the system that isnt merely an upgrade?
[19:07] <pikapika> lotuspsychje, no when I installed 16.04 was the newest lts
[19:07] <pikapika> about an year ago I think?
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> pikapika: ive seen you in releaseparty of 18.04
[19:07] <pikapika> huh?
[19:08] <pikapika> Most probably you'd have seen me asking very similar questions back then, as I had the same thing in mind, how exactly to upgrade and what it entails
[19:10] <oerheks> you would not have much infuence on that, except removing/reversing ppa's and manually installed packages
[19:10] <oerheks> before upgrading*
[19:11] <pikapika> much influence on what? are you talking about problem apps or update's tendency to touch random stuff?
[19:12] <pikapika> Because as I said earlier, if it changes wm god knows what else it silently modifies
[19:13] <oerheks> .. there is only one way to find out.
[19:13] <pikapika> lol
[19:14] <pikapika> I think the upgrade is going to be officially available in a few days so I guess the only thing I can do is copy the paritions image, upgrade and see what happens
[19:16] <pikapika> I'll try to report back the findings here as well as I can afterwards
[19:17] <oerheks> :-)
[19:20] <leonardus> why do I need an account to livepatch?
[19:20] <pikapika> I think I have an idea
[19:28] <TJ-> leonardus: because Live Patch is a paid-for Canonical service, but has a limited 'free' option for up to 3 devices per ubuntu-one account
[19:30] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: if you dont like setting up an account, you can also update/upgrade your system and then reboot after
[19:40] <memo1> hi, im using systemd to start scripts automatically.  But i want that the service restart everytime it failed forever.  How i set up?
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> !systemd | memo1 start here
[19:46] <memo1> im using StartLimitIntervalSec=0 and RestartSec=1, but it dont try forever.  Always say service hold-off time over
[19:52] <brainwash> memo1: did you set Restart= ?
[19:55] <memo1> brainwash: yes, to RestartSec=1
[19:55] <memo1> brainwash: type: simple
[19:56] <nacc> memo1: pastebin your service file
[20:01] <memo1> nacc: https://pasteboard.co/HwTINOz.png
[20:02] <memo1> nacc: https://pasteboard.co/HwTJvpZ.png
[20:06] <danieru98> nacc, a developer seem to have found a fix for that bug about one of my HDDs not working with linux 4.15, the problem now is that i was also having a issue with ubuntu freezing when trying to reboot, and that fix for the WD HDD did not fix the freezing issue
[20:07] <danieru98> nacc, so i was wondering if you knew how i could get any logs, info or dmesg when the computer freeze
[20:07] <memo1> brainwash: nacc any ideas?
[20:16] <vy> What is the right way to install git in 18.04.1? There is no package called "git" and installing "git-all" costs 521 MB!
[20:17] <IT_Rando> So you're saying `sudo apt -y install git` isn't working?
[20:19] <genii> !info git
[20:19] <IaMnEwHeRe> Hello there, I have a general question regarding bionic beaver: Are you guys using netplay as a default when it comes to managing links after an installation, my provider provides installation-dvds and at the end of the installation-process the default-link ens3 is configured by netplay
[20:20] <vy> IT_Rando: No, I am saying that I am stupid enough to not check if it is installed. :P Nevermind...
[20:20] <genii> It's in main, so it should be showing up if you've updated your repository lists
[20:20] <IaMnEwHeRe> putting it under management from sytemd-networked, enabling LLMNR and setting DNS-resolution and search-paths
[20:21] <IT_Rando> So I'm having an absolute hell of a time trying to get Landscape to work with 18.04. Where should I go to ask questions about it?
[20:21] <IaMnEwHeRe> sry netplan not netplay
[20:22] <genii> vy: Since the package called git is in the main repository, either you haven't done sudo apt-get update, or else you offline-installed and the sources.list only has the CD/USB from which you installed as a possible place to install things from
[20:24] <IT_Rando> Something similar happened to me when I tried out CentOS the other day. Apparently RPM doesn't list packages you already have installed.
[20:24] <IT_Rando> For a minute I was BAFFLED that I couldn't install additional GNOME stuff
[20:25] <brainwash> memo1: did you link your service file?
[20:27] <lovepopsickle> you guys got a pretty serious but with gnome
[20:27] <lovepopsickle> 18.04
[20:28] <lovepopsickle> bug
[20:28] <hiya> lovepopsickle, what do you mean?
[20:28] <lovepopsickle> its slow
[20:29] <IT_Rando> That... is a supremely unhelpful statement.
[20:30] <lovepopsickle> IT_Rando, https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/8fks5c/ubuntu_1804_slower_than_1710/
[20:30] <lovepopsickle> maybe that is better ...read the comments and cry
[20:31] <rory_> hi, for ubuntu 16.04 is there a way to specify additional config options to the reoslvconf interface config ie `options timeout:1`. looking at the docs the only options seem to be dns-nameservers and dns-search.
[20:32] <lovepopsickle> I switched to unity and it seems to okay on 18.04
[20:33] <lovepopsickle> IT_Rando, here some more reading for you buddy. https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1672297
[20:33] <IT_Rando> You know, I'm not actually a Canonical employee, so I'm not the one you should be tagging with all this info.
[20:34] <lovepopsickle> IT_Rando, maybe keeping your mouth shut would have been a good idea then huh
[20:34] <leftyfb> lovepopsickle: please keep with the channel guidelines. No need for the hostility.
[20:34] <lovepopsickle> it seemed unconvinced so i gave you some reading and i guess that shut you up real nice
[20:35] <lovepopsickle> i understand leftyfb
[20:35] <Jackalope> Hey, new Ubuntu user here. I just finished doing a completely fresh install of Ubuntu 18.04.1 and installed a NextCloud server. I had to do the reinstall multiple times to get the nextcloud server working but finally was able to troubleshoot the process. But I noticed that when I load up the computer each time the canoniical live patch thing comes up. I authorrize it and then I I try to sign in to my ubuntuOne account, but it it h
[20:35] <IT_Rando> I'm really confused as to what's going on.
[20:35] <Jackalope> I think the problem started when I remade my Ubuntu installer, and used 18.04.1 instead of the installer I think I had before which was 18.04
[20:36] <Jackalope> Anybody have an idea what could be causing this? Should I file a bug report? or what?
[20:38] <leftyfb> Jackalope: I would try an untouched installer installation and see if the issue still exists. My guess is it might be something to do with your customized installer
[20:39] <Jackalope> It's not a custom installer. The ISO is from the Ubuntu download page
[20:39] <Jackalope> I added nextcloud after the fact and the issue preexisted it. I included the fact that I was doing nextcloud to explain why I had installed multiple times over the course of a couple of days.
[20:40] <leftyfb> Jackalope: maybe I misinterpreted "<Jackalope> I think the problem started when I remade my Ubuntu installer, and used 18.04.1 instead of the installer I think I had before which was 18.04"
[20:41] <Blakes5> hey all. I've got two wireless nics in my system and whether they're wlan0 or wlan1 is changing on different boots. Is there anyway to make sure the driver for one nic gets loaded before the other?
[20:41] <Jackalope> Yeah I made the original one a couple of weeks ago, and decided to redownload the ISO and make it again, so it would be completely clean and I could be sure up to date. I don't remember seeing the 18.04.1 before that so I think in between making the first and second Ubuntu put out an update. Not sure about that. But I def notice this thing with a completely fresh install.
[20:41] <leftyfb> Blakes5: https://askubuntu.com/questions/771910/how-to-force-old-wlan-naming-16-04
[20:42] <Blakes5> thnx!
[20:42] <IT_Rando> So I installed Landscape on an AWS instance running Ubuntu 16.04 and the problems have never seemed to end. The server sets up fine with landscape-quickstart and a little bit of configuration file editing, but then what really screws me over is that package updating for client laptops fails half the time, and that's after opening ports 80 and 443 to my IP. I keep getting the same error message and the listed
[20:42] <IT_Rando> bug is a broken link. I posted on askubuntu about it: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1050482/landscape-package-changer-keeps-crashing
[20:42] <IT_Rando> Client laptops are running 18.04
[20:43] <leftyfb> IT_Rando: you should try #ubuntu-server
[20:44] <IT_Rando> AH. Thanks.
[20:44] <boboysdadda> Good afternoon. With netplan how do I set eth0: dhcp eth0:0 192.168.10.2 ??
[20:46] <leftyfb> boboysdadda: https://netplan.io/examples  first result on google for "netplan examples"
[20:47] <lovepopsickle> another buy im seeing on my usb even with sudo rm -rf folder/ its popping back up on 18.04
[20:47] <leftyfb> lovepopsickle: huh?
[20:47] <IaMnEwHeRe> boboysdadda, https://netplan.io/reference
[20:48] <IaMnEwHeRe> there should be a default-configuration in /etc/netplan/*.yaml you can work off from
[20:48] <lovepopsickle> leftyfb, its showing back the file after its deleted
[20:49] <IaMnEwHeRe> but personally if you can avoid it I get more and more the feeling that netplan is not quite read for production, e.g. it cannot use static defined DNS when DHCP is enabled
[20:49] <leftyfb> lovepopsickle: This is a usb attached storage device? You rm -rf /path/to/usb/mount/files , you get no errors and then when you ls you still see the files?
[20:49] <boboysdadda> leftyfb, IaMnEwHeRe I did not see an example of dhcp and ip address. just two static ips.
[20:50] <lovepopsickle> it disappears for a while and while I am wiping it securely it shows back up later
[20:50] <lovepopsickle> I am trying to delete it now using the gui method
[20:50] <leftyfb> lovepopsickle: that's not how things work. You're leaving out some key piece of information
[20:51] <lovepopsickle> i think i know how to delete a file from the terminal it it just started doing it on 18.04
[20:52] <leftyfb> lovepopsickle: 18.04 didn't change the fundamentals of the linux filesystem
[20:53] <leftyfb> lovepopsickle: Can you pastebin the act of ls -l the files, deleting them, ls'ing the same location showing they're deleted , waiting for X amount of minutes and an ls of the magically reappearing?
[20:54] <Jackalope> @leftyfb I found the answer: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1047839/signing-into-ubuntu-one-for-livepatch#1047947  Thanks though!
[20:55] <lovepopsickle> leftyfb, look ive used ubuntu for a while its done this like twice the first time I thought i made a mistake but the second no it was not my mistake its popping back up
[20:55] <IaMnEwHeRe> boboysdadda, look in your /etc/netplan/-directory
[20:56] <leftyfb> lovepopsickle: If you'd like help, you need to follow through with the troubelshooting steps. Step 1 is to reliably reproduce the issue. The steps I mentioned above will do that. We cannot help you diagnose and issue that unless you can reproduce, does not exist.
[20:57] <TJ-> lovepopsickle: are you working with a USB flash device by any chance?
[20:58] <lovepopsickle> TJ i dont think its a flash its a large backup usb.
[20:58] <lovepopsickle> i dont think its flash
[20:58] <lovepopsickle> HDD i think
[20:59] <TJ-> lovepopsickle: OK... it's external to the PC behind a USB<>SATA bridge chip?
[20:59] <TJ-> lovepopsickle: I've seen that happen several times where the bridge chip fails to do the actual writes to the device
[21:00] <lovepopsickle> no connected to usb 3,0
[21:00] <TJ-> lovepopsickle: I suspect the bridge chip may have/be overheating
[21:00] <TJ-> lovepopsickle: right, so if its
[21:00] <TJ-> lovepopsickle: so USB<>SATA then internally usuall anyhow
[21:00] <lovepopsickle> TJ did this quite a few times on 16.04 wirth not probs
[21:01] <TJ-> lovepopsickle: when was that? at the same time as 18.04 failed?
[21:01] <TJ-> lovepopsickle: because I'd suspect the bridge-chip is damaged due to overheating and thats why it's started doing this.
[21:02] <lovepopsickle> TJ-, this happened after doing it with the 18.04 upgrade
[21:02] <TJ-> lovepopsickle: easy way to prove it - remove the HDD from the external chassis and directly connect it to a/the PC using SATA
[21:02] <leftyfb> TJ-: you're basing this off of zero data/proof
[21:02] <TJ-> leftyfb: I'm basing this off a LOT of experience of the issue and the symptoms
[21:03] <TJ-> lovepopsickle: I've had about 6 of those things die this way on me, usually after I've been doing sustained data writes to them (like dd copies of partitions)
[21:03] <lovepopsickle> TJ-, could be about to die hopefully not lol
[21:03] <TJ-> lovepopsickle: you may find clues in the kernel log about I/O faults
[21:03] <Scrogglebog> hello
[21:03] <lovepopsickle> its not that old relatively new
[21:04] <IT_Rando> So I installed Landscape on an AWS instance running Ubuntu 16.04 and the problems have never seemed to end. The server sets up fine with landscape-quickstart and a little bit of configuration file editing, but then what really screws me over is that package updating for client laptops fails half the time, and that's after opening ports 80 and 443 to my IP. I keep getting the same error message and the listed
[21:04] <IT_Rando> bug is a broken link. I posted on askubuntu about it: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1050482/landscape-package-changer-keeps-crashing
[21:04] <TJ-> lovepopsickle: as I said, if you connect the HDD directly to a PC using SATA I'd bet it'd be fine
[21:04] <IT_Rando> AH SORRY WRONG CHANNEL
[21:04] <lovepopsickle> how you do that though I plug it in the usb 3.0?
[21:04] <TJ-> lovepopsickle: remove drive from the chassis it's in
[21:05] <TR1950X> I have a depency problem with xserver-xorg. here is the log https://pastebin.com/6dg5CsRj
[21:05] <TR1950X> can some one help me?
[21:05] <TJ-> lovepopsickle: I'd suggest disconnecting it, let it cool down for an hour, then reconnect and retry the operation. I'd bet it'll work when it's cooler
[21:05] <TJ-> lovepopsickle: if it still fails, then I'd definitely suspect the bridge chip
[21:06] <lovepopsickle> TJ-, could be kind of doubt it ..this is like the first time since the update to 18.04
[21:06] <leftyfb> TR1950X: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core-hwe-16.0 ; apt-cache policy xserver-org
[21:06] <leftyfb> TR1950X: please pastebin the output of those commands
[21:07] <TJ-> lovepopsickle: well, see if there's any hints in the kernel log. Either "dmesg" or "less /var/log/kern.log"
[21:07] <TR1950X> leftyfb: https://pastebin.com/rZC8gpVE
[21:08] <anybody_> guy I accidetly enter a malicious bit coin minig sit  with     JS/Miner.bj
[21:08] <leftyfb> TR1950X: I would suggest changing your main mirror to archive.ubuntu.com as opposed to nl
[21:08] <TJ-> lovepopsickle: what you describe is classic symptoms though... the file is deleted in the local RAM-cached blocks then thhe kernel tries to write that change to the device about 5 seconds later, fails, and the changes are discarded so when you refresh your view the file is still there
[21:08] <TR1950X> leftyfb: apt-cache policy xserver-org <-- do you have that package?
[21:08] <lovepopsickle> i understand TJ- thanks
[21:09] <leftyfb> TR1950X: no, it's not a package in ubuntu 16.04
[21:12] <keepguessing> I tried running do-release-upgrade on ubuntu 16.04 to upgrade to 18.04 and it says no new release upgrade.
[21:13] <keepguessing> Searching online it mentioned that sometimes it might take a month for the upgrade
[21:13] <leftyfb> keepguessing: what ubuntu mirror are you using?
[21:13] <keepguessing> but its been a long time now. 18.04 should be available for upgrade right? . Any one knowns?
[21:13] <keepguessing> leftyfb: let me check and confirm
[21:15] <keepguessing> leftyfb: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
[21:16] <keepguessing> I ran apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:17] <keepguessing> ouch my fault leftyfb I did not use the "-d" option
[21:17] <keepguessing> thanks.
[21:17] <keepguessing> leftyfb: ^^^^
[21:17] <TJ-> keepguessing: d-r-u won't do it until changelogs.ubuntu.com/metadata-release-lts is updated
[21:17] <leftyfb> keepguessing: do not use the -d option
[21:18] <TJ-> keepguessing: typo, http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts
[21:19] <keepguessing> TJ-: yeah I found it still. thanks.
[21:19] <keepguessing> TJ-: why is it not updated there? is the 18.04 not stable yet?
[21:19] <leftyfb> keepguessing: I thought 16.04.1 was released for upgrades from LTS last week?
[21:19] <leftyfb> er
[21:19] <TJ-> keepguessing: It's up to the ubuntu-release team I think
[21:19] <leftyfb> TJ-: ^
[21:19] <lovepopsickle> keepguessing, if you switch in the gui from lts to any updates you should get the prompt..
[21:20] <lovepopsickle> don't know why they don't just tell you that instead of saying how to do it
[21:20] <keepguessing> lovepopsickle: I want to be really sure that its worth it, before doing it.
[21:21] <lovepopsickle> keepguessing, i dont much will change before the update comes through
[21:21] <lovepopsickle> i guess tomorrow
[21:21] <keepguessing> lovepopsickle: they may not tell us why the upgrade is not available yet but there mmight be a reason.
[21:21] <keepguessing> lovepopsickle: tomorrow?
[21:21] <lovepopsickle> keepguessing, could be maybe that giant gnome bug
[21:21] <lovepopsickle> they said late july keepguessing
[21:22] <gdibass> Hi there… For Gnome (18.04 desktop default install) is there an easy way to get workspaces on multiple monitors to behave more like OSX, with individual scrolling per screen.
[21:23] <barawkj> hi
[21:23] <gdibass> I.E. They each have an individual workspace you can drag things to/from… you can change workspaces for one monitor individually?
[21:23] <keepguessing> lovepopsickle: ah okies htanks. I will wait. I dont want to suffer.
[21:25] <keepguessing> gdibass: have you tried the gnome-tweak-tool ?
[21:25] <keepguessing> adasd
[21:25] <gdibass> Yeah I have
[21:25] <gdibass> that enables you to have workspaces on multiple monitors, but the workspace is shared
[21:26] <gdibass> so you can have spaces: 1-2-3-4 and when you change it changes it for all the monitors
[21:28] <TJ-> gdibass: that sounds like the X server "session" facility, where 1 or more monitors can share a session, and sessions are separate from each other
[21:30] <keepguessing> gdibass: I see two option here. "Workspaces on primary......" and "Workspaces span displays". I think you wanted one.
[21:31] <keepguessing> option 1.
[21:31] <gdibass> TJ-:  looking into it… maybe
[21:32] <gdibass> keepguessing:  Naw option 1 keeps a static workspace on all monitors that aren't primary
[21:32] <gdibass> so that doesn't quite do it
[21:34] <keepguessing> gdibass: interesting. It says here that additional workspaces are treated as independent workspaces
[21:34] <gdibass> on my install (fresh 18.04) it was changing workspaces for all of them at once
[21:35] <gdibass> honestly if that's the behavior I'll get then nbd...
[21:35] <gdibass> just something to get used to
[21:37] <gdibass> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/921/multi-monitors-add-on/
[21:37] <gdibass> that might work
[21:37] <gdibass> > It is one of the best extensions ive ever used. but unfortunately in ubuntu 18.04 ( gnome 3.22 ) it freezes genome if initial login or unlock is done with external monitor plugged in. hopefully spin83 fixes this soon!
[21:37] <gdibass> Ahh bummer
[21:38] <someoneneoifjoi> I am getting this while trying to connect using my IRC client hexchat https://pastebin.com/aQZNwkh8. How do I know if my ip is black listed or something???? Right now I am using webchat using my browser
[21:39] <xamithan> I'd have to assume you need to turn on SASL to use that as it says at the bottom of your log
[21:41] <xamithan> Whatever IP address you are connecting from is blacklisted to only connect via SASL.  I know AWS IPs require this on freenode
[21:41] <someoneneoifjoi> xamithan : today I accidently opened a bitcoin mining malicious sit with .    JS/Miner.bj ... I am getting kicked out of site after entering this particular site
[21:42] <xamithan> Yeah sounds like that IP got put on a list somewhere
[21:43] <someoneneoifjoi> xamithan: how do I fix this issue???
[21:44] <someoneneoifjoi> whats a solution for this ???
[21:44] <xamithan> Enable SASL in your client or don't use that IP anymore
[21:44] <xamithan> or connect via a vpn|proxy
[21:45] <xamithan> https://freenode.net/kb/answer/hexchat
[21:45] <someoneneoifjoi> xamithan : alright , I don't have a static IP. How let me try restarting modem and see if that helps
[21:46] <xamithan> Easier to just enable SASL but you do you =)
[21:46] <leftyfb> someoneneoifjoi: your issue has nothing to do with ubuntu
[21:47] <leftyfb> someoneneoifjoi: your error paste above has nothing about being "kicked out". Only that the freenode server you're trying to connect to requires SASL. Again, nothing to do with you going to malicious sites
[22:03] <dedze> Hello, I can't find redshift in my software center anymore and I can't figure why. Also I can't browse softwares by categories anymore for some reason, can someone help me?
[22:05] <dedze> Also, when I open software & update and go to the 'other software' tab, I think I'm lacking something there
[22:15] <platz> i upgraded to cosmic, and now when i try to start neovim i get /usr/bin/nvim: symbol lookup error: /usr/bin/nvim: undefined symbol: uv_print_all_handles
[22:16] <nacc> platz: apt-cache policy neovim ?
[22:16] <nacc> (in a pastebin)
[22:16] <platz> https://lpaste.net/8224453551082962944
[22:17] <nacc> platz: oh wait, cosmic, sorry -- you want #ubuntu+1
[22:18] <nacc> platz: and presuambly you understood the risk of installing pre-alpha software
[22:18] <platz> i guess i'm finding out now :)
[22:19] <platz> i'm guessing there's no downgrade option, just in case?
[22:22] <nacc> platz: right
[22:24] <genii> !info redshift
[22:25] <genii> dedze: You might want to enable the "universe" repository
[22:25] <dedze> genii: Hey, thanks for your answer. How can I enable it?
[22:29] <dedze> genii: If it's about ticking the box in Software & update, tab Ubuntu software, it's ticked already
[22:32] <oerheks> systemsettings > devices > displays: it is called nightlight
[22:33] <jayjo> i switched my system to the dock on the bottom of my screen and now my dock appears but my launcher does not. any ideas on what that could be?
[22:41] <genii> !info neovim
[22:41] <genii> !info neovim cosmic
[22:41] <genii> hm
[23:01] <m15k> Hi strang question: Can I boot another ubuntu instance from a running one?
[23:02] <Ieuan> Hi, is there anything to be mindful of when upgrading 16.10->18.04, or should the official update process work successfully?
[23:03] <Ieuan> 16.10 and 17.04 both being EOL and all
[23:05] <dedze> Hello, how can I reinstall the unbuntu software center from the terminal?
[23:06] <saturna> Hi. With encryption on a single user machine, would you use both disk and user home encrpytion?
[23:07] <xamithan> No,  just disk.  Unless you want to be redundant
[23:08] <guiverc> saturna, i'm no expert on encryption, but seems like a huge waste of resources to do it twice..
[23:08] <dedze> !redshift
[23:10] <genii> dedze: The default in 18.04 is called gnome-software, you can reinstall it by: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-software
[23:11] <dedze> genii: Oh I have 16.04, is my version outdated?
[23:12] <endojelly> is upgrade from 16.04LTS enabled yet? Didn't check
[23:12] <genii> dedze: For 16.04, use the package name software-center instead of gnome-software
[23:13] <dedze> Thank you very much genii , is 16.04 still safe to use BTW
[23:14] <genii> Since I'm not sure what BTW is, I'll have to reserve judgement on using whatever it is
[23:14] <guiverc> endojelly, 16.04 LTS has five years of supported life, so 2016.April + 5 years = 2021.April
[23:14] <genii> endojelly: Not the last that I checked
[23:15] <dedze> genii: Oh BTW it means 'by the way', it's not something offensive
[23:15] <endojelly> guiverc, yeah, but I'd still like to upgrade to 18.04 LTS if possible
[23:15] <endojelly> genii, thanks
[23:15] <endojelly> guiverc, ah, you were possibly replying to dedze?
[23:16] <guiverc> the upgrade path opens SOON after 18.04.1 is released (last thurs london time), so the gates to 18.04 will open anytime now
[23:16] <genii> dedze: Yes, Xenial is still safe to continue using as your main operating system, assuming you have security updates enabled
[23:16] <guiverc> yeah endojelly; my 16.04 LTS is safe was to you dedze
[23:16] <guiverc> sorry endojelly
[23:16] <dedze> genii: They are! Thank you
[23:16] <dedze> guiverc: Thank you for your answer as well
[23:17] <genii> dedze: Glad to assist
[23:21] <johnnyfive> Looking at either a Packages.gz or Sources.gz, is there an indicator that a package is a 'transitional' package?
[23:21] <dedze> genii: Omg I have 2 different ubuntu software center install, could one of it be an illigitimate software?
[23:22] <dedze> genii: I just noticed that when I open it from the terminal, it opens a very different version of it
[23:23] <johnnyfive> Or in other words, how does apt determine if a package is transitional or not? For example in xenial, 'apt search myspell-ca' indicates it is transitional. Anyone know how apt determines this, based on a Packages.gz/Sources.gz pair?
[23:23] <genii> dedze: There are numerous graphical software installers available, the default in Xenial is the regular software-center which came with previous versions since Unity. But you may also have another installed, like Synaptic or whichever one the gnome-software packages pulls up
[23:24] <nacc> johnnyfive: it's not from the source
[23:24] <nacc> johnnyfive: err, from the packages list
[23:24] <nacc> johnnyfive: it's *from* the source itself
[23:25] <nacc> johnnyfive: that's the short description from the package
[23:25] <dedze> genii: Woah I see, I found redshift in the new version of the software center that you helped me reinstall (or install for the first time?). Also it's not bugged anymore so thank you very much and I wish you a very good evening/morning/night!
[23:26] <retention> hi, Im having some network issues, intermittently my network looses connection for a minute
[23:26] <retention> I have no big issue with that except, keeping an ssh connection and remote term session running
[23:26] <johnnyfive> Hey nacc, thanks for the response. You are saying that within a Sources.gz, the short description should indicate it's transitional?
[23:26] <retention> anyone know if there is a way to increase, whatever timeout or other is going wrong here?
[23:27] <nacc> johnnyfive: no, it's the pacakge's source
[23:27] <nacc> johnnyfive: it's not astate, it's the textual description of the package
[23:27] <argusbr> 18.04 LTS what is interface official?
[23:27] <nacc> johnnyfive: it's just the Description field from Packages, afaict
[23:28] <nacc> argusbr: gnome, in stock ubuntu
[23:28] <saturna> What I have noticed is that some software breaks if you use encrypted home because it cant read the home, so I'm guessing there must be some security benefit of it, that FDE doesnt offer? So using both must be better?
[23:28] <Ieuan> Oh actually, updater won't let me 16.10->18.04 - what's the recommended way of updating between those released?
[23:28] <Ieuan> The EoL wiki page hasn't been updated since 2015
[23:28] <nacc> Ieuan: 16.10?
[23:28] <Ieuan> nacc, kinda why I want to upgrade
[23:28] <johnnyfive> nacc, completely missed that, that's exactly what I was looking for. ty
[23:29] <nacc> Ieuan: you will need to do 16.10 -> 17.04 -> 17.10 -> 18.04. all via EOL upgrades
[23:29] <nacc> Ieuan: i would suggest reinstalling
[23:29] <nacc> johnnyfive: yw
[23:29] <genii> Ieuan: Alternately you could try sudo do-release-upgrade -d    but it may crash and burn horribly
[23:29] <Ieuan> nacc, the wiki page EoL is still up to date, then?
[23:29] <nacc> Ieuan: the process has not changed anytime recently
[23:30] <Ieuan> Even with the change to gnome?
[23:30] <nacc> Ieuan: ... not sure why that's relevant?
[23:30] <nacc> Ieuan: as I said, you're better off reinstalling. You can't have cared about this system
[23:31] <genii> Ieuan: The support cycle of *buntu remains the same, no matter what Desktop Environment
[23:31] <Ieuan> I was just more interested using it than updating until now
[23:31] <nacc> Ieuan: well, you were using outdated, insecure software for a year
[23:31] <oerheks> !info ubuntu-unity-desktop
[23:31] <Ieuan> genii, just wanted to make sure it wouldn't throw up any weird configuration issues or whatever
[23:31] <nacc> Ieuan: so I would even argue that :)
[23:31] <nacc> genii: not entirely true
[23:31] <Ieuan> Well, that's true :P
[23:31] <Ieuan> Although
[23:31] <nacc> genii: the flavors ahve different' support cycles
[23:31] <Ieuan> I did think non LTS had 18 month support cycles
[23:31] <nacc> Ieuan: only 9 months
[23:32] <oerheks> 50% off
[23:32]  * genii slaps oerheks for therapeutic reasons
[23:33] <Ieuan> It used to be 18 months, no?
[23:33] <OtterCoder> Hi all! I was wondering, I haven't been able to figure out how to set up mac-style modifier keys since the switch to gnome. Any help for ubuntu 18?
[23:33] <nacc> Ieuan: not any time recently, no
[23:33] <OtterCoder> I just want my greek letters back.  ;_;
[23:34] <Ieuan> nacc, just checked, it was for most of Ubuntu's history ;)
[23:34] <Ieuan> Just managed to neglect realising it was cut 50% :(
[23:34] <nacc> Ieuan: which doesn't reflect anything current in and of itself
[23:35] <oerheks> enough overlapse to test quality
[23:36] <dunnousernamefn> I have this problem where qemu uses the wrong libusb-1.0, and so it can't find the symbols. I read on the debian mailing list the exact situation I have, where another version of libusb is installed with this third-party application they use (I use it too). They fixed it by uninstalling it, but I can't do that. I just need to tell qemu to look for libusb-1.0 in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu instead of /usr/local/lib
[23:36] <dunnousernamefn> does anyone know if there is a way to do that without breaking the other application?
[23:37] <nacc> dunnousernamefn: set LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
[23:37] <dunnousernamefn> I tried setting it, but it still fails
[23:37] <nacc> dunnousernamefn: how did you set it?
[23:37] <dunnousernamefn> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib qemu-system-i386 [...]
[23:37] <dunnousernamefn> oh wait, I'm a total idiot
[23:37] <nacc> dunnousernamefn: well, that's clearly wrong
[23:37] <nacc> dunnousernamefn: :)
[23:37] <dunnousernamefn> I thought I set it the other way
[23:38] <dunnousernamefn> oh, but it still fails
[23:38] <dunnousernamefn> if I do `LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ qemu-system-i386` I get the same error
[23:39] <OtterCoder> I see a space.
[23:39] <dunnousernamefn> huh?
[23:39] <OtterCoder> In the second path you posted.
[23:40] <OtterCoder> / qemu
[23:40] <dunnousernamefn> yes, qemu is the application
[23:40] <OtterCoder> There's a space in the path right there.
[23:40] <OtterCoder> /\sqemu
[23:40] <dunnousernamefn> qemu-system-i386 is the application, and I want it to search for applications in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/
[23:40] <retention> hi anyone suggest a solution to my ssh issues?
[23:41] <nacc> dunnousernamefn: do this:
[23:41] <OtterCoder> Ah, sorry.
[23:41] <nacc> dunnousernamefn: `LD_LIBRARY_PATH=... ldd qemu-system-i386`
[23:41] <nacc> dunnousernamefn: pastebin the results, if you can
[23:41] <dunnousernamefn> ok
[23:42] <retention> screen is not going to make it much simpler, dont get why SSH and term dont recover after 60s down?
[23:42] <retention> perhaps this is a gnu question though
[23:42] <OtterCoder> So, no ideas for enabling a mac modifier key in ubuntu 18?
[23:42] <dunnousernamefn> https://hastebin.com/raw/pejecebowe
[23:43] <OtterCoder> retention: What are you trying to do?
[23:43] <nacc> dunnousernamefn: `file qemu-system-i386` ?
[23:43] <nacc> dunnousernamefn: err nm
[23:43] <retention> OtterCoder, I have an intermittent network connection
[23:44] <dunnousernamefn> nm: /usr/bin/qemu-system-i386: no symbols
[23:44] <nacc> dunnousernamefn: `ls -ahl /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu | grep libusb`
[23:44] <retention> which keeps stalling my ssh shell session
[23:44] <nacc> dunnousernamefn: sorry nm = nevermind :)
[23:44] <dunnousernamefn> I wasn't sure lol
[23:44] <retention> I think it must be some kind of timeout somewhere, but I really dont want to keep reconnecting, rather just wait it out,
[23:45] <OtterCoder> retention: I've been in that situation before, and screen was the only consistent solution I found.
[23:45] <retention> its been a problem on linuxes since I remember, but this time its getting on my nerves, because I have a few tasks open and bged.
[23:45] <dunnousernamefn> https://hastebin.com/raw/tusomivetu
[23:45] <retention> OtterCoder, ohh, ok was hoping there was something better than screen
[23:45] <retention> but sure thats partially better
[23:45] <dunnousernamefn> woah hold on
[23:45] <retention> perhaps I should ask on openssh forum though
[23:46] <retention> might be configurable
[23:46] <OtterCoder> retention: Here's an idea I see floating around: you can use the -o ConnectTimeout option
[23:46] <dunnousernamefn> https://hastebin.com/raw/bopuwemaya
[23:46] <dunnousernamefn> that seems really weird
[23:46] <dunnousernamefn> that may be why
[23:46] <nacc> dunnousernamefn: there is no libusb-1.0.so.0 in the path you are using
[23:46] <retention> OtterCoder, hm. is the default silly small?
[23:46] <OtterCoder> retention: I think the default is infinite.
[23:47] <retention> lol
[23:47] <OtterCoder> retention: Which is why it hangs.
[23:47] <nacc> dunnousernamefn: so maybe try with /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ in LD_LIBRARY_PATH ?
[23:47] <dunnousernamefn> that works
[23:48] <retention> OtterCoder, ok, hm ok may study that then... a bit counterintuitive
[23:48] <OtterCoder> retention: There's a bunch of options for ssh. I don't understand all of them. Mostly I just rely on screen to save my work through drops.
[23:48] <dunnousernamefn> so should I just prepend that to everything? I don't use qemu a lot
[23:48] <dunnousernamefn> I don't know if that would break other apps
[23:49] <nacc> dunnousernamefn: no, only to qemu
[23:49] <dunnousernamefn> that's what I meant
[23:49] <dunnousernamefn> every call of qemu
[23:49] <nacc> dunnousernamefn: yes, i would make a wrapper script or alias
[23:49] <dunnousernamefn> but don't export it or anything
[23:49] <OtterCoder> dunnousernamefn: Make yourself a bash alias!
[23:50] <dunnousernamefn> wow, that works great
[23:50] <dunnousernamefn> thanks everyone
[23:51] <nacc> dunnousernamefn: yw :)
[23:56] <OtterCoder> So, the option English (Macintosh) doesn't exist in my input sources list. Where should I get it from?