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didrocksgood morning05:24
dufluMorning didrocks05:56
dufluand good morning seb12805:56
didrockshey duflu06:04
dufluThis time I went to lunch before you arrived :)06:08
jibelGood morning06:10
dufluMorning jibel06:23
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:25
dufluMorning oSoMoN06:28
oSoMoNhey duflu06:31
jibelSalut oSoMoN06:33
didrockssalut jibel, oSoMoN!06:34
oSoMoNsalut jibel, salut didrocks06:41
willcookemorning all07:50
dufluMorning willcooke07:51
willcookeafternoon duflu, how goes?07:51
dufluwillcooke, weirdly wrecked, despite 8hrs sleep. You?07:52
willcookeUsually wrecked07:52
* duflu high fives07:52
willcooke:D07:52
dufluand misses07:52
willcookeIt's weird, I'm still struggling to get back on UK time.  Bedtime seems to have crept round to after midnight, and that's not enough sleep for me any more07:53
dufluOccasionally jet lag can go past one week if you're not careful07:54
duflutjaalton, what's making xorg-server 1.20 stick?07:54
tjaaltonduflu: not dropping obsolete drivers07:56
tjaaltonthere's a bug that hasn't been touched by archive admins after a few pings weeks ago, then I went on holidays07:57
tjaaltonbut I hear there's some qtbase migration confusing things further now07:58
didrockshey willcooke07:58
seb128re, good morning desktopers08:00
seb128hey duflu tjaalton willcooke08:00
seb128lut didrocks oSoMoN jibel08:00
willcookebonjour seb12808:01
tjaaltonhi seb12808:02
seb128duflu, there is a point update for pulseaudio, maybe worth getting? it fixes a segfault when switching to a2dp according to the news08:02
oSoMoNgood morning willcooke, seb12808:02
jibelSalut seb12808:03
dufluseb128, I already created a card in Trello with comments recently08:05
dufluseb128, https://trello.com/c/sPgoFXO608:06
seb128right, just saw it, I don't understand why Debian is holding us updating though?08:07
dufluseb128, because I like to have history that goes back to Debian. Until now Debian was always ahead of us08:08
dufluin publishing08:08
seb128the usual way is that we update and rebase later when they update08:08
seb128anyway, up to you, I don't know how many people that segfault impacts but we can probably wait a bit08:08
dufluseb128, yes I was looking for it but found no reports08:09
oSoMoNseb128, I just uploaded https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libepubgen/0.1.1-1ubuntu108:39
seb128oSoMoN, great, thx08:44
seb128oSoMoN, reminder that it would be nice if you could give input on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libstaroffice/+bug/1717930 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libzmf/+bug/171792610:13
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1717930 in libstaroffice (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libstaroffice" [Undecided,Incomplete]10:13
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1717926 in libzmf (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libzmf" [Undecided,Incomplete]10:13
oSoMoNseb128, yes, still on my list, I will get to those eventually10:19
seb128oSoMoN, thx10:19
Trevinhoah, I was forgetting... Hey guys :)10:19
seb128hey Trevinho! how are you?10:23
Trevinhohey, I'm good.. :)10:23
seb128Trevinho, did you get whatever you needed done with gnome-initial-setup/bionic done?10:23
Trevinhoyou guys don't forget I've some MPs to sponsor though :)10:23
seb128you do?10:23
Trevinhoyes.... mutter, nautilus, gnome-shell10:24
Trevinhoseb128: for initiali setup was here already https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-desktop-team/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+git/mutter10:24
Trevinhonot sure if andyrock wanted to do something more over that10:24
seb128wrong url?10:25
Trevinholike prepare fixes, so maybe before pulling let's wait him10:25
seb128k10:25
Trevinhoyes10:25
Trevinhohttps://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-desktop-team/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/+git/gnome-initial-setup10:25
Trevinhowell, that's for mutter, where now I've to cherry pick few merge-commits, since mine landed yesterday in debian10:25
Trevinhobut still needs to be sponsored too10:25
seb128wasn't that component in sync from Debian?10:26
seb128or you means SRUs?10:26
seb128anyway, I let L_aney deal with that10:26
seb128but I've nautilus on my list10:26
TrevinhoSRUs10:26
seb128k10:26
Trevinhoyes, so we sync it, but I've made a fork for the changelog part... it's going to be basically the same of debian + the changelog changes10:27
Trevinhobut since we've to keep it around for 5 years, just better to have it10:27
Trevinhoalso G-S bionic SRU... https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+git/gnome-shell/+ref/ubuntu/bionic10:27
Trevinhowell, maybe at this point I'll do few other cherry-picks of andrea's fixes10:28
seb128right10:28
Trevinhoas I don't expect a 3.28.4 coming early from now10:28
seb128yeah, hopefully the main issues are handled in bionic now and we can focus a bit on cosmic10:29
Trevinhognome-shell 3.29 is also ready, but at this point probably waiting for 3.29.90 that should be arrive by today10:29
Trevinhoyeah, main e.u.c are.... there' still a big crash I wanted to look at, but one of that involves some glib changes, and while I started experimenting I had no time to finish, another one is shell only related but need to play more10:30
Trevinhoah, and add the XUbuntuCancel method to the sarch provider10:30
dufluOh hi Trevinho10:56
dufluAnd good night all10:56
seb128Trevinho, andyrock, I've pushed https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/log/?h=ubuntu/bionic now11:04
andyrockseb128: thx11:04
seb128np, sorry it took a bit11:04
Trevinhoseb128: for nautilus also remember this please https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+git/nautilus/+merge/35102111:29
LaneyXUbuntuCancel :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((11:48
Laneywhat am I supposed to sponsor, didn't realise anything was blocking on me11:53
seb128Laney, don't worry about the XUbuntu, Marco has an upstreamed agreed protocol revision which is the proper solution and for next cycle, we just need the hack in bionic12:00
TrevinhoLaney: yeah, I mean if you have better ideas....12:00
Trevinhobut that was what we had to accept eventually.12:01
Laneyk12:01
seb128Laney, also Marco needs another round of shell sponsoring, it doesn't have to be you but you are the more likely to pick up from past experience12:01
Laneysounded like he said to wait for a new upstream release12:02
Laneybut ok, can do when that comes12:02
seb128thx12:02
Laneycan't be me in debian though until my key gets fixed /o\12:02
seb128hey Laney btw :) how is debconf so far?12:02
seb128:(12:03
seb128unfortunate timing12:03
seb128when you wanted to start on 3.29 updates12:03
Laneyyeh12:03
Laneywell I do what I can in the vcs, someone can sponsor me if they are feeling nice12:03
Laneynice here, someone did a talk on analysing maintainer scripts to find bugs12:04
Laneyhttps://saimei.ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/debian-meetings/2018/DebConf18/2018-07-31/mining-debian-maintainer-scripts.webm12:04
seb128ah, videos are already online, nice12:05
Laneyyeh these guys are speedy12:06
* Laney has been rebasing g-c-c patches today12:07
Laneyrobert's cleanups broke almost all of them12:08
TrevinhoLaney: yeah, I can wait for 3.29.90 actually...12:10
TrevinhoI mean it's just about mergin few bits once it comes12:10
Trevinhoif it comes today or tomorrow.12:10
Trevinhootherwise I prefer going with what we have12:10
Laneyok to wait12:11
Laneybut if that was the plan I'm not sure those cherry-picks are a good use of peoples time12:12
Trevinhoyeah, indeed.. but for bionic we would need them anyway12:20
Trevinhoas 3.28.4, is too early. While we'd have to do a SRU anyway, so better to have fixes sooner than later.12:20
LaneyI'm mainly talking about the 3.29 branch12:22
LaneyAlthough drip feeding cherry picks to the other one is a bit wearing too, might want to batch those12:23
Laneylike we do an upload every N days/weeks if there are still fixes coming12:25
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Laney:(13:16
seb128you preferred it with the private jokes? ;)13:18
seb128I mentioned I though it would be better without after the meeting last week and since nobody commented I though nobody cared13:19
seb128but feel free to add them back if you find it nicer :)13:19
seb128to be fair I never understood the Amaterasu reference at least13:19
seb128but maybe it was from a day I was not around13:19
LaneyIt was a piece of happy mail we got one time when fixing some bug13:20
LaneyWell it turned the topic from something which contained fun to something 100% boring13:20
Laneybut fair enough if it's somehow offputting to people13:21
Laneygot to disappear, might be back later13:22
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seb128let's be fun :)13:22
Laneythere's probably more fun things that could be added there than in-jokes :P13:23
Laneylaters13:23
seb128yeah, let's see if we can figure something out :p13:24
seb128have a nice evening!13:24
didrockstime to write a bot to change the topic to something fun everyday ;)13:27
seb128:)13:27
seb128k, it's meeting time!13:30
seb128#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-07-3113:30
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Jul 31 13:30:23 2018 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.13:30
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seb128Roll call: andyrock (out), dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine, laney (out?), oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)13:30
oSoMoNo/13:30
kenvandineo/13:30
didrockshey13:30
seb128k, some people around, let's get started and be efficient today :p13:30
seb128#topic andyrock13:31
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seb128- Fix for https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/issues/404 (merged upstream)13:31
seb128- Update file-roller to 3.29.1 (thanks L_aney for sponsoring)13:31
seb128- Update gnome-calculator in debian to 3.28.2 (thanks L_aney for sponsoring)13:31
seb128- Update gnome-calculator in debian experimental to 3.29.1 (WIP)13:31
seb128- Updated MR to fix issue https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/10913:31
seb128- Updated MR to fix issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1772831 (merged upstream)13:31
gitlab-botGNOME issue 404 in gnome-software "Cannot control updates tab from keyboard" (comments: 0) [8. Accessibility, Closed]13:31
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1772831 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-control-center does not respond after we set the resolution 320x180" [High,In progress]13:31
seb128-  Debugging some issue with the fix for issue https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/issues/6813:31
gitlab-botGNOME issue 109 in gnome-shell "Extended characters in OSK don't get entered" (comments: 16) [Opened]13:31
gitlab-botGNOME issue 68 in gnome-settings-daemon "media-keys: Some shortcuts should ignore auto-repeat key events" (comments: 0) [Opened]13:31
seb128#topic dgadomski13:31
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seb128dgadomski, hey13:31
dgadomskihey13:31
dgadomski* finally reproduced bug #1721988 on metal, still working on it13:31
ubot5bug 1721988 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 17.10 full disk encryption + Nvidia drivers not booting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172198813:31
dgadomskieof13:31
seb128thanks dgadomski13:31
seb128#topic didrocks13:32
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seb128didrocks, hey13:32
didrocks* Yaru:13:32
didrocks  - published announcement + followup on forum (https://didrocks.fr/2018/07/24/open-the-cosmic-gate-a-beautiful-theme-gets-a-beautiful-name/) and social medias13:32
didrocks  - small packaging adjustements13:32
didrocks  - preparing MIR: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yaru-theme/+bug/178360013:32
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1783600 in yaru-theme (Ubuntu) "[MIR] yaru-theme" [Undecided,New]13:32
didrocks  - prepared everything to be pushed once the MIR is acked to set the new theme by default (touching 5 components): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yaru-theme/+bug/1783571 so that even if I'm away, people can push it13:32
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1783571 in yaru-theme (Ubuntu) "Set Yaru as default" [Undecided,New]13:32
didrocks  - inform core team about what's needed to get Yaru by default in Cosmic: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/progress-on-yaru-as-default-for-cosmic-18-10/723813:32
didrocks  - archive old communitheme repos and CI cleanup13:32
didrocks  - multiple small fixes for the theme in gtk-common-themes13:32
didrocks  - discuss strategy about updates with core team: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/gnome-shell-updates-yaru/724413:32
didrocks  - wrote documentation on how to merge new themes version: https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/tree/debian/README.Ubuntu13:32
didrocks* GSConnect:13:32
didrocks  - a lot of debugging and exchanges with upstream: https://github.com/andyholmes/gnome-shell-extension-gsconnect/issues/15813:32
gitlab-botandyholmes issue 158 in gnome-shell-extension-gsconnect "Inclusion by default in ubuntu" (comments: 20) [Open]13:32
didrocksdebugging session, redo the packaging13:32
didrocks  - finished packaging it and latest WIP branch in cosmic: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-gsconnect13:32
didrocks* Icons by default on the desktop:13:32
didrocks  - read current extension POC code, and start fixing it13:32
didrocks  - discussion with Carlos on the next steps, what's the MVP, in which order we will tackle those13:32
didrocks* Misc:13:32
didrocks  - dicussed with j_ibel about installer-next-gen and started drafting a comparison document13:32
didrocks  - verified apport UI changes SRU13:33
didrocks  - reviewed and sponsored GNOME Shell fixes13:33
didrocksThanks seb for the 2 NEW reviews!13:33
didrocks.13:33
seb128yw!13:33
seb128thanks didrocks13:33
didrocksthanks ;)13:33
seb128#topic duflu13:33
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seb128* Gnome Shell performance:13:33
seb128  - Redesigned, rewrote and discussed at length the input lag optimization. It's a small change with a big impact so is my main priority right now (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/168)13:33
seb128  - Work in progress: Reworking multi-monitor support in native presentation timing branch. Generally it works very well already and other people agree, but isn't yet theoretically correct for multi-monitor...13:33
seb128    . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/17113:33
seb128    . https://gitlab.gnome.org/vanvugt/mutter/commits/add-native-frame-info13:33
seb128  - Also minor progress in:13:33
gitlab-botGNOME issue (Merge request) 168 in mutter "clutter: Deliver events sooner when possible [performance]" (comments: 40) [1. Feature, 5. Clutter, 5. Performance, Opened]13:33
seb128    . https://gitlab.gnome.org/vanvugt/mutter/commits/super-smooth-v213:33
gitlab-botGNOME issue (Merge request) 171 in mutter "Sync to the hardware refresh rate, not just 60.00Hz [performance]" (comments: 18) [1. Feature, 5. Backend: Native, Opened]13:33
seb128    . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/11213:33
seb128    . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/7313:34
gitlab-botGNOME issue (Merge request) 112 in mutter "clutter/actor: Inherit clone branch depth from parent" (comments: 13) [1. Bug, 5. Clutter, Opened]13:34
seb128    . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/11913:34
gitlab-botGNOME issue (Merge request) 73 in mutter "WIP: renderer-native: CRTCs now hold front buffer refs. [performance]" (comments: 44) [1. Bug, 5. Backend: Native, 5. Performance, Opened]13:34
seb128    . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/14013:34
gitlab-botGNOME issue (Merge request) 119 in mutter "renderer-native: Reference count front buffers." (comments: 72) [1. Feature, 5. Backend: Native, Opened]13:34
gitlab-botGNOME issue (Merge request) 140 in mutter "renderer-native: Simplify flip completion logic." (comments: 0) [1. Feature, 5. Backend: Native, Opened]13:34
seb128* Daily bug management:13:34
seb128  - An interesting insight about PulseAudio this week: The pulseaudio daemon can indirectly commit suicide leaving no crash reports when CPU usage is too high, by design! This might explain a lot about some of the most common bug reports of "no sound" where pulseaudio is found to be not running at all. Now we have a good explanation why and a workaround so I think a number of users will benefit from this soon. (https://launchpad.net/bugs/178313:34
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1783 in Launchpad itself "ProductVocabulary and ProjectVocabulary list inactive items" [Medium,Fix released]13:34
seb128200)13:34
seb128  - Backlog is mostly stable except for some unexpected bounces in ubiquity and nautilus13:34
seb128https://launchpad.net/bugs/1783200 (got cut)13:34
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1783200 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "[Lenovo Miix 310, Ubuntu 18.04] Audio no longer working" [High,Incomplete]13:34
seb128#topic jamesh13:35
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seb128jamesh didn't send his update it seems...13:35
seb128#topic jibel/heber13:35
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seb128jibel, heber, hey13:35
jibel- Release of 18.04.1 on the 26th13:35
jibel- Release of 16.04.5 this week13:35
jibel- Testing of deb to snap migration during LTS to LTS upgrade13:35
jibel- Fix and test comments in utah repo MP13:35
jibeldone13:35
seb128thx jibel13:35
seb128#topic kenvandine13:35
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seb128kenvandine, hey13:35
kenvandine* Profiling slow startup of snaps13:36
kenvandine  - desktop-launch will now output elapsed time if run with SNAP_DESKTOP_DEBUG=113:36
kenvandine  - Determined desktop-launch is not causing the slowness to start the first time.  The slowness is in the actual exec of the app.13:36
kenvandine    - Apparmor allows read access of $REALHOME/.cache/fontconfig/ but it needs to be opened rw, causing a cache miss and generating a fresh cache.13:36
kenvandine13:36
seb128thx kenvandine13:36
seb128#topic laney13:36
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seb128Laney is at debconf13:37
seb128#topic oSoMoN13:37
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seb128oSoMoN, hey13:37
oSoMoNhey13:37
oSoMoN• firefox13:37
oSoMoN  ∘ commented on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1463091, which we thought was caused by snapd not allowing snap:// URLs to go through xdg-open, but is in fact a valid upstream bug13:37
ubot5Mozilla bug 1463091 in Widget: Gtk "snap links do not work in the firefox snap" [Normal,Reopened]13:37
oSoMoN• chromium13:37
oSoMoN  ∘ completed content snap for chromium-ffmpeg-extras (https://trello.com/c/iOMMKdy7/52-snap-that-provides-a-content-interface-for-chromium-ffmpeg-extras), the chromium-ffmpeg snap is live in the store13:37
oSoMoN  ∘ added chromium-ffmpeg to the wiki page that lists the snaps that are officially supported by Canonical13:37
oSoMoN  ∘ pushed a chromium-ffmpeg-test snap to the store that exercises the slots exposed by chromium-ffmpeg13:37
oSoMoN  ∘ documented chromium-ffmpeg usage for consumer snaps: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/using-chromium-ffmpeg-in-third-party-browser-snaps/654513:37
oSoMoN  ∘ updated beta to 68.0.3440.7513:37
oSoMoN  ∘ updated stable to 68.0.3440.7513:37
oSoMoN    - uploaded to cosmic13:37
oSoMoN    - snap in candidate and in candidate/from-source channels, issued call for testing (https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/call-for-testing-chromium-68-0-3440-75/6572)13:37
oSoMoN    - built in stage PPA (xenial and bionic), tested and handed over to security team13:37
oSoMoN  ∘ updating dev to 69.0.3497.12 (investigating a cosmic/amd64 link failure with binutils 2.31, testing lld)13:37
oSoMoN  ∘ filed bug #178439513:37
ubot5bug 1784395 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Geolocation stopped working recently in chromium" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178439513:37
oSoMoN• libreoffice13:37
oSoMoN  ∘ updated snap in candidate channel to 6.0.6 RC2 and updated call for testing13:38
oSoMoN  ∘ merged changes from libepubgen in debian unstable and uploaded 0.1.1-1ubuntu113:38
oSoMoN• gnome-software:13:38
oSoMoN  ∘ investigating bug #1775226, looking into the packagekit plugin to locate the proper place to return early instead of writing the prepared-update file on disk, as hinted by La_ney13:38
ubot5bug 1775226 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Gnome Software offers installation of updates on shutdown independently from update-manager and unattended-upgrades" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177522613:38
oSoMoN• snaps13:38
oSoMoN  ∘ reviewed and merged https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/14013:38
gitlab-botubuntu issue (Pull request) 140 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "Output some profiling information when $SNAP_DESKTOP_DEBUG is set" (comments: 1) [Closed]13:38
oSoMoN🚼13:38
seb128thx oSoMoN13:38
seb128#topic seb12813:38
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seb128• reviewed/cleaned up a bit the trello board13:38
seb128• reviewed/merged/uploaded https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/software-properties/fix-lp-1770686/+merge/34543713:38
seb128• reviewed the yaru theme package for NEW13:38
seb128• synced the file-roller 3.29 update from Andy13:38
seb128• discussed workflow/documentation for gnome-shell/theme updates13:38
seb128• cosmic syncs & updates (libvncserver, fuse, x11-apps)13:38
seb128• versions script work, xupdated some upstream URLs, adding stats logging13:38
seb128• reviewed gs-connect package from Didier in NEW13:38
seb128</week>13:38
seb128#topic tkamppeter13:39
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seb128tkamppeter, hey13:39
tkamppeter- cups-filters: More investigations on duplicate (on the server and on the client) processing of print jobs by the pdftopdf filter when printing on auto-generated print queues for IPP printers/remote CUPS printers.13:39
tkamppeter- Google Summer of Code 2018: Mentoring of the students on Common Print Dialog Backends and printer auto-selection by job. Especially gave ideas to the students on point where they got stuck. Last week before student's final reports.13:39
tkamppeter- Google Summer of Code 2018: Booked trip for Mentor Summit (first Mentor Summit for me, after 10 years of organizing the participation of the Linux Foundation.13:39
tkamppeter- Bugs.13:39
seb128thx tkamppeter13:40
seb128#topic trevinho13:40
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seb128Trevinho, hey13:40
seb128marrrrcccoooo13:41
oSoMoNsiesta time?13:42
seb128k, he's probably enjoying some tapas or something :)13:42
seb128#topic robert_ancell13:42
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seb128- Back from holiday (2 days this week)13:42
seb128- Reviewed new interfaces API in snapd-glib (https://github.com/snapcore/snapd-glib/pull/40)13:42
seb128- Prepared SRU for appstream-glib bug affecting firmware updates (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream-glib/+bug/1780442)13:42
seb128- Sent out LightDM 1.24 EOL announcement13:42
seb128- Landed some control center branches (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/merge_requests/106, https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/merge_requests/105)13:42
gitlab-botsnapcore issue (Pull request) 40 in snapd-glib "WIP: Add support for the "interface info" mode of the /v2/interfaces API" (comments: 2) [Open]13:42
seb128- Rebasing lots of branches in merge proposals13:42
seb128- simple-scan 3.29.90 release13:42
gitlab-botGNOME issue (Merge request) 106 in gnome-control-center "printers: Fix double free / leak due to copy-paste error" (comments: 5) [1. Bug, 10. Component: Printers, Merged]13:42
seb128- GNOME Software stakeholders meeting13:42
gitlab-botGNOME issue (Merge request) 105 in gnome-control-center "printers: Fix branch depending on uninitialized variable" (comments: 4) [1. Bug, 10. Component: Printers, Merged]13:42
seb128- Got sick and spent most of the day sleeping on the couch :(13:43
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1780442 in Fwupd "Please backport fix for & in attributes" [Unknown,New]13:43
seb128#topic rls-bugs13:43
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seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html seems fine13:44
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:44
seb128has bug #172418813:44
ubot5bug 1724188 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "gnome-software crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_stack_set_visible_child_name → get_installed_updates_cb → g_task_return_now → complete_in_idle_cb → g_main_dispatch" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172418813:44
seb128kenvandine, want it assigned to you so you can find an assignee?13:45
kenvandineseb128, sure13:45
seb128thx13:45
oSoMoNI'm happy to look into it once I'm done with my other G-S bugs13:45
seb128thx oSoMoN13:46
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html looks fine13:46
seb128jbicha, thx for handling the evo/eds updates :)13:46
jbichanp :)13:47
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html looks fine as well13:47
seb128#topic aob13:47
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seb128any other topic to discuss this week?13:47
didrocksnothing from my side13:47
oSoMoNnothing here13:48
willcookenothing here13:48
seb128k, nice and efficient meeting this week then13:48
kenvandinenothing here13:48
seb128thanks everyone13:48
willcooke Very quick and efficient, thanks everyone13:48
seb128#endmeeting13:48
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Jul 31 13:48:45 2018 UTC.13:48
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2018/ubuntu-desktop.2018-07-31-13.30.moin.txt13:48
didrocksthanks!13:48
oSoMoNthanks!13:48
tseliotseb128, Laney: hi, any chance we can get this merged in cosmic and bionic? https://code.launchpad.net/~albertomilone/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+git/gdm3/+merge/35181013:51
seb128tseliot, we have another gdm update/SRU in the queue, maybe we should merge both? also the code comment on yours "Run PrimeOff after the session is closed" doesn'"t match the description "before and after Gdm sessions "13:57
seb128it's a bit confusing13:57
seb128tseliot, the bug also needs to be made SRU compliant before that gets SRUed13:59
tseliotseb128: correct. It runs the scripts - Prime and PrimeOff - before and after the session, respectively14:00
seb128diff of diff are not easy to read :/14:01
tseliotseb128: my changes to the patch only move the code that is relevant to PrimeOff, and leave the Prime script alone, since it is already doing the right thing14:01
tseliotI know14:01
tseliotseb128: this is the original patch: https://git.launchpad.net/~albertomilone/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+git/gdm3/tree/debian/patches/ubuntu_nvidia_prime.patch?h=lp1778011&id=41d417c4c907d302093cd5387a1ab0f1101e224014:01
tseliotand this is the result: https://git.launchpad.net/~albertomilone/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+git/gdm3/tree/debian/patches/ubuntu_nvidia_prime.patch?h=lp1778011&id=eb0dac1244b935edba502b2c4b1396d1497dca0c14:02
tseliotand yes, I will prepare that bug report for the SRU, since more components need to go in14:03
seb128do they need to go synced?14:03
seb128but sure I can do the upload14:03
seb128I'm going to start with cosmic14:03
seb128though it might be tomorrow rather than today, still trying to wrap some other things14:03
TrevinhoHey.. no I wasn't enjoying siesta... damn it... I was just with all my brain in the terminal...14:05
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seb128Trevinho, don't worry, you can still paste your weekly update if you wish to sahre it!14:06
Trevinhoyes... let me reformat14:06
tseliotseb128: the full fix will require all the components but it doesn't break anything if gdm goes first14:10
seb128k14:10
Trevinhook I'm going...14:11
Trevinho· Mutter preparation for 3.29 and more cherry-picks:14:11
Trevinho - https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/mutter/merge_requests/714:11
Trevinho - https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/mutter/merge_requests/814:11
Trevinho - https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/mutter/merge_requests/914:11
Trevinho· gnome-shell: prepared 3.29, re-merged with debian (yay!) and prepared bionic14:11
Trevinho  more SRU fixes:14:11
Trevinho - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+git/gnome-shell/+merge/35144414:11
Trevinho - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+git/gnome-shell/+merge/35075514:11
Trevinho - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+git/gnome-shell/+merge/35144514:11
gitlab-botGNOME issue (Merge request) 7 in mutter "Monitor changes crash fixes (for experimental)" (comments: 2) [Merged]14:11
gitlab-botGNOME issue (Merge request) 8 in mutter "Monitor changes crash fixes" (comments: 3) [Merged]14:11
gitlab-botGNOME issue (Merge request) 9 in mutter "d/p/monitor-Use-current-monitor-mode-to-check-whether-active.patch" (comments: 3) [Merged]14:11
Trevinho· Updating dash-to-dock and yaru for 3.29 too14:11
Trevinho· Various upstream reviews and cherry-picks14:11
Trevinho· Some glib, mutter debugging:14:11
Trevinho  - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/glib/issues/145814:11
Trevinho  - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/issues/13014:11
Trevinho🌘14:11
gitlab-botGNOME issue 1458 in glib "g_volume_get_mount returns NULL value after g_volume_mount_finish is called with no error" (comments: 9) [Gvolume, Opened]14:11
gitlab-botGNOME issue 130 in mutter "gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in meta_monitor_mode_get_resolution()." (comments: 4) [1. Crash, Closed]14:11
seb128thx Trevinho14:12
Trevinho· Nautilus: updates to https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+git/nautilus/+merge/35017414:12
Trevinhoand https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+git/nautilus/+merge/35102114:12
Trevinho:)14:12
Trevinhoprobably few other things I forgot to save :-D14:12
seb128hehe14:13
seb128"patch re-added after gbp deleted on importing new upstream release"14:14
seb128is that a gbp bug?14:14
Trevinhoseb128: could have been, I've done gbp rebase and then I noticed I lost that14:14
Trevinhoah, i also prepared gnome-initial-setup git branch :P14:17
seb128:)14:19
Trevinhoah, also, worh mentioning that as per 3.29.90, upstream said they'll do tarball later today or tomorrow... Then probably better to wait those and rebase gnome-shell on top of that once they do it14:21
willcookedidrocks, will 18.04.1 installs (i.e. from the new ISO) show up differently in Ubuntu Report?  Will we know they came from the .1 media for example?14:57
didrockswillcooke: yeah, the media should mentions .114:59
didrocksotherwise, the distro id is still 18.0415:00
oSoMoNLaney, how does that look? https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-software/merge_requests/4/diffs15:37
gitlab-botUbuntu issue (Merge request) 4 in gnome-software "packagekit: Disable updates (LP: #1775226)" (comments: 0) [Opened]15:37
ubot5Launchpad bug 1775226 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Gnome Software offers installation of updates on shutdown independently from update-manager and unattended-upgrades" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177522615:37
LaneyoSoMoN: why's it after the pk_client_get_updates call?16:12
Laneybut yus, that's basically the shape of it, if it works16:12
* Laney hopes Robert gets review mail there16:14
Laneynight o/16:14
oSoMoNLaney, thx, good night!16:18
oSoMoNLaney, and to answer your question: I think we still want packagekit to refresh the metadata, so that the updates page lists the available updates, but we don't want the actual updates to be silently downloaded and prepared for an offline update16:29
Trevinhodidrocks: hey, as for gnome-shell to 3.29 we need https://github.com/micheleg/dash-to-dock/pull/77016:37
gitlab-botmicheleg issue (Pull request) 770 in dash-to-dock "use a wrapper to access to Screen, Workspacess and Monitor" (comments: 4) [Open]16:37
Trevinhodidrocks: how do we handle that on the ubuntu branch?16:37
didrocksTrevinho: rebase the ubuntu branch on top of master16:37
Trevinhodidrocks: yeah, but if the merge won't happen early enough?16:38
Trevinhoand anyway, do you have powers over the ubuntu branch^?16:38
didrocksTrevinho: hum, tricky, distro-patch16:38
Trevinholike write permission?16:38
didrocksTrevinho: yeah, but will be tomorrow right now16:38
Trevinhoyep, sure...16:38
Trevinhoso, let's see if he'll merge it by tomorrow16:38
Trevinhoif not, we can push on ubuntu the cherry pick patch16:39
didrocksyeah16:39
Trevinhoas g-s per se is ready, need to check the theming stuff a bit more, but I'd like to have this done by this weel16:39
Trevinhoweek*16:39
Trevinhoas next one could not be around... Well, you guys can inherit it ofc, but..16:40
Trevinhokenvandine: hey, can yuo please publish https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3330 ?17:24
kenvandineTrevinho, looking17:26
kenvandineTrevinho, publishing17:37
willcookenight all18:32
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