[05:24] good morning [05:56] Morning didrocks [05:56] and good morning seb128 [06:04] hey duflu [06:08] This time I went to lunch before you arrived :) [06:10] Good morning [06:23] Morning jibel [06:25] good morning desktoppers [06:28] Morning oSoMoN [06:31] hey duflu [06:33] Salut oSoMoN [06:34] salut jibel, oSoMoN! [06:41] salut jibel, salut didrocks [07:50] morning all [07:51] Morning willcooke [07:51] afternoon duflu, how goes? [07:52] willcooke, weirdly wrecked, despite 8hrs sleep. You? [07:52] Usually wrecked [07:52] * duflu high fives [07:52] :D [07:52] and misses [07:53] It's weird, I'm still struggling to get back on UK time. Bedtime seems to have crept round to after midnight, and that's not enough sleep for me any more [07:54] Occasionally jet lag can go past one week if you're not careful [07:54] tjaalton, what's making xorg-server 1.20 stick? [07:56] duflu: not dropping obsolete drivers [07:57] there's a bug that hasn't been touched by archive admins after a few pings weeks ago, then I went on holidays [07:58] but I hear there's some qtbase migration confusing things further now [07:58] hey willcooke [08:00] re, good morning desktopers [08:00] hey duflu tjaalton willcooke [08:00] lut didrocks oSoMoN jibel [08:01] bonjour seb128 [08:02] hi seb128 [08:02] duflu, there is a point update for pulseaudio, maybe worth getting? it fixes a segfault when switching to a2dp according to the news [08:02] good morning willcooke, seb128 [08:03] Salut seb128 [08:05] seb128, I already created a card in Trello with comments recently [08:06] seb128, https://trello.com/c/sPgoFXO6 [08:07] right, just saw it, I don't understand why Debian is holding us updating though? [08:08] seb128, because I like to have history that goes back to Debian. Until now Debian was always ahead of us [08:08] in publishing [08:08] the usual way is that we update and rebase later when they update [08:08] anyway, up to you, I don't know how many people that segfault impacts but we can probably wait a bit [08:09] seb128, yes I was looking for it but found no reports [08:39] seb128, I just uploaded https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libepubgen/0.1.1-1ubuntu1 [08:44] oSoMoN, great, thx [10:13] oSoMoN, reminder that it would be nice if you could give input on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libstaroffice/+bug/1717930 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libzmf/+bug/1717926 [10:13] Ubuntu bug 1717930 in libstaroffice (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libstaroffice" [Undecided,Incomplete] [10:13] Ubuntu bug 1717926 in libzmf (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libzmf" [Undecided,Incomplete] [10:19] seb128, yes, still on my list, I will get to those eventually [10:19] oSoMoN, thx [10:19] ah, I was forgetting... Hey guys :) [10:23] hey Trevinho! how are you? [10:23] hey, I'm good.. :) [10:23] Trevinho, did you get whatever you needed done with gnome-initial-setup/bionic done? [10:23] you guys don't forget I've some MPs to sponsor though :) [10:23] you do? [10:24] yes.... mutter, nautilus, gnome-shell [10:24] seb128: for initiali setup was here already https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-desktop-team/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+git/mutter [10:24] not sure if andyrock wanted to do something more over that [10:25] wrong url? [10:25] like prepare fixes, so maybe before pulling let's wait him [10:25] k [10:25] yes [10:25] https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-desktop-team/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/+git/gnome-initial-setup [10:25] well, that's for mutter, where now I've to cherry pick few merge-commits, since mine landed yesterday in debian [10:25] but still needs to be sponsored too [10:26] wasn't that component in sync from Debian? [10:26] or you means SRUs? [10:26] anyway, I let L_aney deal with that [10:26] but I've nautilus on my list [10:26] SRUs [10:26] k [10:27] yes, so we sync it, but I've made a fork for the changelog part... it's going to be basically the same of debian + the changelog changes [10:27] but since we've to keep it around for 5 years, just better to have it [10:27] also G-S bionic SRU... https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+git/gnome-shell/+ref/ubuntu/bionic [10:28] well, maybe at this point I'll do few other cherry-picks of andrea's fixes [10:28] right [10:28] as I don't expect a 3.28.4 coming early from now [10:29] yeah, hopefully the main issues are handled in bionic now and we can focus a bit on cosmic [10:29] gnome-shell 3.29 is also ready, but at this point probably waiting for 3.29.90 that should be arrive by today [10:30] yeah, main e.u.c are.... there' still a big crash I wanted to look at, but one of that involves some glib changes, and while I started experimenting I had no time to finish, another one is shell only related but need to play more [10:30] ah, and add the XUbuntuCancel method to the sarch provider [10:56] Oh hi Trevinho [10:56] And good night all [11:04] Trevinho, andyrock, I've pushed https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/log/?h=ubuntu/bionic now [11:04] seb128: thx [11:04] np, sorry it took a bit [11:29] seb128: for nautilus also remember this please https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+git/nautilus/+merge/351021 [11:48] XUbuntuCancel :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( [11:53] what am I supposed to sponsor, didn't realise anything was blocking on me [12:00] Laney, don't worry about the XUbuntu, Marco has an upstreamed agreed protocol revision which is the proper solution and for next cycle, we just need the hack in bionic [12:00] Laney: yeah, I mean if you have better ideas.... [12:01] but that was what we had to accept eventually. [12:01] k [12:01] Laney, also Marco needs another round of shell sponsoring, it doesn't have to be you but you are the more likely to pick up from past experience [12:02] sounded like he said to wait for a new upstream release [12:02] but ok, can do when that comes [12:02] thx [12:02] can't be me in debian though until my key gets fixed /o\ [12:02] hey Laney btw :) how is debconf so far? [12:03] :( [12:03] unfortunate timing [12:03] when you wanted to start on 3.29 updates [12:03] yeh [12:03] well I do what I can in the vcs, someone can sponsor me if they are feeling nice [12:04] nice here, someone did a talk on analysing maintainer scripts to find bugs [12:04] https://saimei.ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/debian-meetings/2018/DebConf18/2018-07-31/mining-debian-maintainer-scripts.webm [12:05] ah, videos are already online, nice [12:06] yeh these guys are speedy [12:07] * Laney has been rebasing g-c-c patches today [12:08] robert's cleanups broke almost all of them [12:10] Laney: yeah, I can wait for 3.29.90 actually... [12:10] I mean it's just about mergin few bits once it comes [12:10] if it comes today or tomorrow. [12:10] otherwise I prefer going with what we have [12:11] ok to wait [12:12] but if that was the plan I'm not sure those cherry-picks are a good use of peoples time [12:20] yeah, indeed.. but for bionic we would need them anyway [12:20] as 3.28.4, is too early. While we'd have to do a SRU anyway, so better to have fixes sooner than later. [12:22] I'm mainly talking about the 3.29 branch [12:23] Although drip feeding cherry picks to the other one is a bit wearing too, might want to batch those [12:25] like we do an upload every N days/weeks if there are still fixes coming === seb128 changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle [13:16] :( [13:18] you preferred it with the private jokes? ;) [13:19] I mentioned I though it would be better without after the meeting last week and since nobody commented I though nobody cared [13:19] but feel free to add them back if you find it nicer :) [13:19] to be fair I never understood the Amaterasu reference at least [13:19] but maybe it was from a day I was not around [13:20] It was a piece of happy mail we got one time when fixing some bug [13:20] Well it turned the topic from something which contained fun to something 100% boring [13:21] but fair enough if it's somehow offputting to people [13:22] got to disappear, might be back later === seb128 changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help [13:22] let's be fun :) [13:23] there's probably more fun things that could be added there than in-jokes :P [13:23] laters [13:24] yeah, let's see if we can figure something out :p [13:24] have a nice evening! [13:27] time to write a bot to change the topic to something fun everyday ;) [13:27] :) [13:30] k, it's meeting time! [13:30] #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-07-31 [13:30] Meeting started Tue Jul 31 13:30:23 2018 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [13:30] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-07-31 | Current topic: [13:30] Roll call: andyrock (out), dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine, laney (out?), oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) [13:30] o/ [13:30] o/ [13:30] hey [13:30] k, some people around, let's get started and be efficient today :p [13:31] #topic andyrock === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-07-31 | Current topic: andyrock [13:31] - Fix for https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/issues/404 (merged upstream) [13:31] - Update file-roller to 3.29.1 (thanks L_aney for sponsoring) [13:31] - Update gnome-calculator in debian to 3.28.2 (thanks L_aney for sponsoring) [13:31] - Update gnome-calculator in debian experimental to 3.29.1 (WIP) [13:31] - Updated MR to fix issue https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/109 [13:31] - Updated MR to fix issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1772831 (merged upstream) [13:31] GNOME issue 404 in gnome-software "Cannot control updates tab from keyboard" (comments: 0) [8. Accessibility, Closed] [13:31] Ubuntu bug 1772831 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-control-center does not respond after we set the resolution 320x180" [High,In progress] [13:31] - Debugging some issue with the fix for issue https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/issues/68 [13:31] GNOME issue 109 in gnome-shell "Extended characters in OSK don't get entered" (comments: 16) [Opened] [13:31] GNOME issue 68 in gnome-settings-daemon "media-keys: Some shortcuts should ignore auto-repeat key events" (comments: 0) [Opened] [13:31] #topic dgadomski === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-07-31 | Current topic: dgadomski [13:31] dgadomski, hey [13:31] hey [13:31] * finally reproduced bug #1721988 on metal, still working on it [13:31] bug 1721988 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 17.10 full disk encryption + Nvidia drivers not booting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721988 [13:31] eof [13:31] thanks dgadomski [13:32] #topic didrocks === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-07-31 | Current topic: didrocks [13:32] didrocks, hey [13:32] * Yaru: [13:32] - published announcement + followup on forum (https://didrocks.fr/2018/07/24/open-the-cosmic-gate-a-beautiful-theme-gets-a-beautiful-name/) and social medias [13:32] - small packaging adjustements [13:32] - preparing MIR: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yaru-theme/+bug/1783600 [13:32] Ubuntu bug 1783600 in yaru-theme (Ubuntu) "[MIR] yaru-theme" [Undecided,New] [13:32] - prepared everything to be pushed once the MIR is acked to set the new theme by default (touching 5 components): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yaru-theme/+bug/1783571 so that even if I'm away, people can push it [13:32] Ubuntu bug 1783571 in yaru-theme (Ubuntu) "Set Yaru as default" [Undecided,New] [13:32] - inform core team about what's needed to get Yaru by default in Cosmic: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/progress-on-yaru-as-default-for-cosmic-18-10/7238 [13:32] - archive old communitheme repos and CI cleanup [13:32] - multiple small fixes for the theme in gtk-common-themes [13:32] - discuss strategy about updates with core team: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/gnome-shell-updates-yaru/7244 [13:32] - wrote documentation on how to merge new themes version: https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/tree/debian/README.Ubuntu [13:32] * GSConnect: [13:32] - a lot of debugging and exchanges with upstream: https://github.com/andyholmes/gnome-shell-extension-gsconnect/issues/158 [13:32] andyholmes issue 158 in gnome-shell-extension-gsconnect "Inclusion by default in ubuntu" (comments: 20) [Open] [13:32] debugging session, redo the packaging [13:32] - finished packaging it and latest WIP branch in cosmic: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-gsconnect [13:32] * Icons by default on the desktop: [13:32] - read current extension POC code, and start fixing it [13:32] - discussion with Carlos on the next steps, what's the MVP, in which order we will tackle those [13:32] * Misc: [13:32] - dicussed with j_ibel about installer-next-gen and started drafting a comparison document [13:33] - verified apport UI changes SRU [13:33] - reviewed and sponsored GNOME Shell fixes [13:33] Thanks seb for the 2 NEW reviews! [13:33] . [13:33] yw! [13:33] thanks didrocks [13:33] thanks ;) [13:33] #topic duflu === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-07-31 | Current topic: duflu [13:33] * Gnome Shell performance: [13:33] - Redesigned, rewrote and discussed at length the input lag optimization. It's a small change with a big impact so is my main priority right now (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/168) [13:33] - Work in progress: Reworking multi-monitor support in native presentation timing branch. Generally it works very well already and other people agree, but isn't yet theoretically correct for multi-monitor... [13:33] . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/171 [13:33] . https://gitlab.gnome.org/vanvugt/mutter/commits/add-native-frame-info [13:33] - Also minor progress in: [13:33] GNOME issue (Merge request) 168 in mutter "clutter: Deliver events sooner when possible [performance]" (comments: 40) [1. Feature, 5. Clutter, 5. Performance, Opened] [13:33] . https://gitlab.gnome.org/vanvugt/mutter/commits/super-smooth-v2 [13:33] GNOME issue (Merge request) 171 in mutter "Sync to the hardware refresh rate, not just 60.00Hz [performance]" (comments: 18) [1. Feature, 5. Backend: Native, Opened] [13:33] . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/112 [13:34] . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/73 [13:34] GNOME issue (Merge request) 112 in mutter "clutter/actor: Inherit clone branch depth from parent" (comments: 13) [1. Bug, 5. Clutter, Opened] [13:34] . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/119 [13:34] GNOME issue (Merge request) 73 in mutter "WIP: renderer-native: CRTCs now hold front buffer refs. [performance]" (comments: 44) [1. Bug, 5. Backend: Native, 5. Performance, Opened] [13:34] . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/140 [13:34] GNOME issue (Merge request) 119 in mutter "renderer-native: Reference count front buffers." (comments: 72) [1. Feature, 5. Backend: Native, Opened] [13:34] GNOME issue (Merge request) 140 in mutter "renderer-native: Simplify flip completion logic." (comments: 0) [1. Feature, 5. Backend: Native, Opened] [13:34] * Daily bug management: [13:34] - An interesting insight about PulseAudio this week: The pulseaudio daemon can indirectly commit suicide leaving no crash reports when CPU usage is too high, by design! This might explain a lot about some of the most common bug reports of "no sound" where pulseaudio is found to be not running at all. Now we have a good explanation why and a workaround so I think a number of users will benefit from this soon. (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1783 [13:34] Ubuntu bug 1783 in Launchpad itself "ProductVocabulary and ProjectVocabulary list inactive items" [Medium,Fix released] [13:34] 200) [13:34] - Backlog is mostly stable except for some unexpected bounces in ubiquity and nautilus [13:34] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1783200 (got cut) [13:34] Ubuntu bug 1783200 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "[Lenovo Miix 310, Ubuntu 18.04] Audio no longer working" [High,Incomplete] [13:35] #topic jamesh === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-07-31 | Current topic: jamesh [13:35] jamesh didn't send his update it seems... [13:35] #topic jibel/heber === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-07-31 | Current topic: jibel/heber [13:35] jibel, heber, hey [13:35] - Release of 18.04.1 on the 26th [13:35] - Release of 16.04.5 this week [13:35] - Testing of deb to snap migration during LTS to LTS upgrade [13:35] - Fix and test comments in utah repo MP [13:35] done [13:35] thx jibel [13:35] #topic kenvandine === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-07-31 | Current topic: kenvandine [13:35] kenvandine, hey [13:36] * Profiling slow startup of snaps [13:36] - desktop-launch will now output elapsed time if run with SNAP_DESKTOP_DEBUG=1 [13:36] - Determined desktop-launch is not causing the slowness to start the first time. The slowness is in the actual exec of the app. [13:36] - Apparmor allows read access of $REALHOME/.cache/fontconfig/ but it needs to be opened rw, causing a cache miss and generating a fresh cache. [13:36] ⚾ [13:36] thx kenvandine [13:36] #topic laney === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-07-31 | Current topic: laney [13:37] Laney is at debconf [13:37] #topic oSoMoN === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-07-31 | Current topic: oSoMoN [13:37] oSoMoN, hey [13:37] hey [13:37] • firefox [13:37] ∘ commented on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1463091, which we thought was caused by snapd not allowing snap:// URLs to go through xdg-open, but is in fact a valid upstream bug [13:37] Mozilla bug 1463091 in Widget: Gtk "snap links do not work in the firefox snap" [Normal,Reopened] [13:37] • chromium [13:37] ∘ completed content snap for chromium-ffmpeg-extras (https://trello.com/c/iOMMKdy7/52-snap-that-provides-a-content-interface-for-chromium-ffmpeg-extras), the chromium-ffmpeg snap is live in the store [13:37] ∘ added chromium-ffmpeg to the wiki page that lists the snaps that are officially supported by Canonical [13:37] ∘ pushed a chromium-ffmpeg-test snap to the store that exercises the slots exposed by chromium-ffmpeg [13:37] ∘ documented chromium-ffmpeg usage for consumer snaps: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/using-chromium-ffmpeg-in-third-party-browser-snaps/6545 [13:37] ∘ updated beta to 68.0.3440.75 [13:37] ∘ updated stable to 68.0.3440.75 [13:37] - uploaded to cosmic [13:37] - snap in candidate and in candidate/from-source channels, issued call for testing (https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/call-for-testing-chromium-68-0-3440-75/6572) [13:37] - built in stage PPA (xenial and bionic), tested and handed over to security team [13:37] ∘ updating dev to 69.0.3497.12 (investigating a cosmic/amd64 link failure with binutils 2.31, testing lld) [13:37] ∘ filed bug #1784395 [13:37] bug 1784395 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Geolocation stopped working recently in chromium" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1784395 [13:37] • libreoffice [13:38] ∘ updated snap in candidate channel to 6.0.6 RC2 and updated call for testing [13:38] ∘ merged changes from libepubgen in debian unstable and uploaded 0.1.1-1ubuntu1 [13:38] • gnome-software: [13:38] ∘ investigating bug #1775226, looking into the packagekit plugin to locate the proper place to return early instead of writing the prepared-update file on disk, as hinted by La_ney [13:38] bug 1775226 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Gnome Software offers installation of updates on shutdown independently from update-manager and unattended-upgrades" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1775226 [13:38] • snaps [13:38] ∘ reviewed and merged https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/140 [13:38] ubuntu issue (Pull request) 140 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "Output some profiling information when $SNAP_DESKTOP_DEBUG is set" (comments: 1) [Closed] [13:38] 🚼 [13:38] thx oSoMoN [13:38] #topic seb128 === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-07-31 | Current topic: seb128 [13:38] • reviewed/cleaned up a bit the trello board [13:38] • reviewed/merged/uploaded https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/software-properties/fix-lp-1770686/+merge/345437 [13:38] • reviewed the yaru theme package for NEW [13:38] • synced the file-roller 3.29 update from Andy [13:38] • discussed workflow/documentation for gnome-shell/theme updates [13:38] • cosmic syncs & updates (libvncserver, fuse, x11-apps) [13:38] • versions script work, xupdated some upstream URLs, adding stats logging [13:38] • reviewed gs-connect package from Didier in NEW [13:38] [13:39] #topic tkamppeter === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-07-31 | Current topic: tkamppeter [13:39] tkamppeter, hey [13:39] - cups-filters: More investigations on duplicate (on the server and on the client) processing of print jobs by the pdftopdf filter when printing on auto-generated print queues for IPP printers/remote CUPS printers. [13:39] - Google Summer of Code 2018: Mentoring of the students on Common Print Dialog Backends and printer auto-selection by job. Especially gave ideas to the students on point where they got stuck. Last week before student's final reports. [13:39] - Google Summer of Code 2018: Booked trip for Mentor Summit (first Mentor Summit for me, after 10 years of organizing the participation of the Linux Foundation. [13:39] - Bugs. [13:40] thx tkamppeter [13:40] #topic trevinho === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-07-31 | Current topic: trevinho [13:40] Trevinho, hey [13:41] marrrrcccoooo [13:42] siesta time? [13:42] k, he's probably enjoying some tapas or something :) [13:42] #topic robert_ancell === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-07-31 | Current topic: robert_ancell [13:42] - Back from holiday (2 days this week) [13:42] - Reviewed new interfaces API in snapd-glib (https://github.com/snapcore/snapd-glib/pull/40) [13:42] - Prepared SRU for appstream-glib bug affecting firmware updates (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream-glib/+bug/1780442) [13:42] - Sent out LightDM 1.24 EOL announcement [13:42] - Landed some control center branches (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/merge_requests/106, https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/merge_requests/105) [13:42] snapcore issue (Pull request) 40 in snapd-glib "WIP: Add support for the "interface info" mode of the /v2/interfaces API" (comments: 2) [Open] [13:42] - Rebasing lots of branches in merge proposals [13:42] - simple-scan 3.29.90 release [13:42] GNOME issue (Merge request) 106 in gnome-control-center "printers: Fix double free / leak due to copy-paste error" (comments: 5) [1. Bug, 10. Component: Printers, Merged] [13:42] - GNOME Software stakeholders meeting [13:42] GNOME issue (Merge request) 105 in gnome-control-center "printers: Fix branch depending on uninitialized variable" (comments: 4) [1. Bug, 10. Component: Printers, Merged] [13:43] - Got sick and spent most of the day sleeping on the couch :( [13:43] Ubuntu bug 1780442 in Fwupd "Please backport fix for & in attributes" [Unknown,New] [13:43] #topic rls-bugs === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-07-31 | Current topic: rls-bugs [13:44] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html seems fine [13:44] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html [13:44] has bug #1724188 [13:44] bug 1724188 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "gnome-software crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_stack_set_visible_child_name → get_installed_updates_cb → g_task_return_now → complete_in_idle_cb → g_main_dispatch" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1724188 [13:45] kenvandine, want it assigned to you so you can find an assignee? [13:45] seb128, sure [13:45] thx [13:45] I'm happy to look into it once I'm done with my other G-S bugs [13:46] thx oSoMoN [13:46] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html looks fine [13:46] jbicha, thx for handling the evo/eds updates :) [13:47] np :) [13:47] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html looks fine as well [13:47] #topic aob === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-07-31 | Current topic: aob [13:47] any other topic to discuss this week? [13:47] nothing from my side [13:48] nothing here [13:48] nothing here [13:48] k, nice and efficient meeting this week then [13:48] nothing here [13:48] thanks everyone [13:48] Very quick and efficient, thanks everyone [13:48] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help [13:48] Meeting ended Tue Jul 31 13:48:45 2018 UTC. [13:48] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2018/ubuntu-desktop.2018-07-31-13.30.moin.txt [13:48] thanks! [13:48] thanks! [13:51] seb128, Laney: hi, any chance we can get this merged in cosmic and bionic? https://code.launchpad.net/~albertomilone/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+git/gdm3/+merge/351810 [13:57] tseliot, we have another gdm update/SRU in the queue, maybe we should merge both? also the code comment on yours "Run PrimeOff after the session is closed" doesn'"t match the description "before and after Gdm sessions " [13:57] it's a bit confusing [13:59] tseliot, the bug also needs to be made SRU compliant before that gets SRUed [14:00] seb128: correct. It runs the scripts - Prime and PrimeOff - before and after the session, respectively [14:01] diff of diff are not easy to read :/ [14:01] seb128: my changes to the patch only move the code that is relevant to PrimeOff, and leave the Prime script alone, since it is already doing the right thing [14:01] I know [14:01] seb128: this is the original patch: https://git.launchpad.net/~albertomilone/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+git/gdm3/tree/debian/patches/ubuntu_nvidia_prime.patch?h=lp1778011&id=41d417c4c907d302093cd5387a1ab0f1101e2240 [14:02] and this is the result: https://git.launchpad.net/~albertomilone/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+git/gdm3/tree/debian/patches/ubuntu_nvidia_prime.patch?h=lp1778011&id=eb0dac1244b935edba502b2c4b1396d1497dca0c [14:03] and yes, I will prepare that bug report for the SRU, since more components need to go in [14:03] do they need to go synced? [14:03] but sure I can do the upload [14:03] I'm going to start with cosmic [14:03] though it might be tomorrow rather than today, still trying to wrap some other things [14:05] Hey.. no I wasn't enjoying siesta... damn it... I was just with all my brain in the terminal... === seb128 changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently [14:06] Trevinho, don't worry, you can still paste your weekly update if you wish to sahre it! [14:06] yes... let me reformat [14:10] seb128: the full fix will require all the components but it doesn't break anything if gdm goes first [14:10] k [14:11] ok I'm going... [14:11] · Mutter preparation for 3.29 and more cherry-picks: [14:11] - https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/mutter/merge_requests/7 [14:11] - https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/mutter/merge_requests/8 [14:11] - https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/mutter/merge_requests/9 [14:11] · gnome-shell: prepared 3.29, re-merged with debian (yay!) and prepared bionic [14:11] more SRU fixes: [14:11] - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+git/gnome-shell/+merge/351444 [14:11] - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+git/gnome-shell/+merge/350755 [14:11] - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+git/gnome-shell/+merge/351445 [14:11] GNOME issue (Merge request) 7 in mutter "Monitor changes crash fixes (for experimental)" (comments: 2) [Merged] [14:11] GNOME issue (Merge request) 8 in mutter "Monitor changes crash fixes" (comments: 3) [Merged] [14:11] GNOME issue (Merge request) 9 in mutter "d/p/monitor-Use-current-monitor-mode-to-check-whether-active.patch" (comments: 3) [Merged] [14:11] · Updating dash-to-dock and yaru for 3.29 too [14:11] · Various upstream reviews and cherry-picks [14:11] · Some glib, mutter debugging: [14:11] - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/glib/issues/1458 [14:11] - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/issues/130 [14:11] 🌘 [14:11] GNOME issue 1458 in glib "g_volume_get_mount returns NULL value after g_volume_mount_finish is called with no error" (comments: 9) [Gvolume, Opened] [14:11] GNOME issue 130 in mutter "gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in meta_monitor_mode_get_resolution()." (comments: 4) [1. Crash, Closed] [14:12] thx Trevinho [14:12] · Nautilus: updates to https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+git/nautilus/+merge/350174 [14:12] and https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+git/nautilus/+merge/351021 [14:12] :) [14:12] probably few other things I forgot to save :-D [14:13] hehe [14:14] "patch re-added after gbp deleted on importing new upstream release" [14:14] is that a gbp bug? [14:14] seb128: could have been, I've done gbp rebase and then I noticed I lost that [14:17] ah, i also prepared gnome-initial-setup git branch :P [14:19] :) [14:21] ah, also, worh mentioning that as per 3.29.90, upstream said they'll do tarball later today or tomorrow... Then probably better to wait those and rebase gnome-shell on top of that once they do it [14:57] didrocks, will 18.04.1 installs (i.e. from the new ISO) show up differently in Ubuntu Report? Will we know they came from the .1 media for example? [14:59] willcooke: yeah, the media should mentions .1 [15:00] otherwise, the distro id is still 18.04 [15:37] Laney, how does that look? https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-software/merge_requests/4/diffs [15:37] Ubuntu issue (Merge request) 4 in gnome-software "packagekit: Disable updates (LP: #1775226)" (comments: 0) [Opened] [15:37] Launchpad bug 1775226 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Gnome Software offers installation of updates on shutdown independently from update-manager and unattended-upgrades" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1775226 [16:12] oSoMoN: why's it after the pk_client_get_updates call? [16:12] but yus, that's basically the shape of it, if it works [16:14] * Laney hopes Robert gets review mail there [16:14] night o/ [16:18] Laney, thx, good night! [16:29] Laney, and to answer your question: I think we still want packagekit to refresh the metadata, so that the updates page lists the available updates, but we don't want the actual updates to be silently downloaded and prepared for an offline update [16:37]