 for some reason the transition wants to remove all KDE4
 i.e. would break all kde4 if migrated
 @tsimonq2 would probably cheer :P but in practical terms for this, not good
 looks likely to be because strigi FTBFS against ffmpeg4
 strigi is removed in debian, so if I stop kde4libs building against it (hence a dep) then it should become removable from Ubuntu 🤞
 @tsimonq2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transcode/+bug/1784612
 that will block ffmpeg, and hence Qt as well
[12:37] <lisandro> tangled transitions are not fun
[12:50] <acheronuk> lisandro: with Qt and KDE, there are rarely any other kind :P
[12:51] <acheronuk> of the larger ones, anyway
[13:00] <lisandro> :-)
[13:02] <lubot5> * acheronuk wonders what happened to the idea of checking that rdeps build ok BEFORE you start a transition
 https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/html/ffmpeg.html
[13:03] <lubot5> * acheronuk wonders if webengine can be decoupled from ffmpeg in the short term
 too many other things also build with it :(
 @acheronuk kmail apparently needs a fix for Qt 5.11.1
 See debian-kde@l.d.o but lisandro has a patch, apparently :)
 with all the patching already, I would be amazed if PIM works at all!
 heh
 I'll have a look where we are. with Qt firmly wedged in proposed, doubt this will affect many people. + I wonder if fixed in 18.04 apps, which if so, might be done anyway before Qt migrates, or immediately after
 @tsimonq2 so this? https://cgit.kde.org/messagelib.git/commit/?h=Applications/18.04&id=38d8323062731ae0cf8a037451b5b55d41f0e3f6
 that is in 18.04 it seems
 I think so
 I don't use kmail :P
 So I'll ponder whether to do that earlier now, or patch
 Up to you.
 @tsimonq2, seems multiple fixes https://cgit.kde.org/messagelib.git/log/?h=Applications%2F18.04&qt=grep&q=5.11
 Ah.
 @tsimonq2 kde4libs is migrating. strigi in release and FTBFS in proposed against ffmpeg should be removable when done
 ack
 😴💤
[21:21] <lisandro> @acheronuk working on it
[21:22] <lisandro> I'm also adding a patch for missing headers
[21:22] <lisandro> ideally we would need heffee around :-/