[00:03] <ubptgbot> pVbXvFtSAuih2 was added by: pVbXvFtSAuih2
 Hey people, slightly ot question but here's where I'm at with my busted nexus: do you know if I could use a nexus 4 battery on a nexus 5?
[02:44] <ubptgbot> sharanchakradhar was added by: sharanchakradhar
 Hi guys
 I’m trying to install uB touch
 But
 Installer not finding the phone
 It’s in boot loader fast boot
 Any ideas?
 Select it manually, some models aren't auto-detected
 Did
 But
 Phone is still connected
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/1m001Evo.png
 will i not get any image file or xip file so i can install directly from twrp?
 can some one help ?
[03:35] <ubptgbot> <Biju Joseph> [Edit] will anbox works in oneplus one ?
[03:35] <ubptgbot> <Biju Joseph> will anbox works in oneplus one?
[03:36] <ubptgbot> <Biju Joseph> if yes please tell how to install or give some links ...thanks
[04:18] <ubptgbot> OMG its me was added by: OMG its me
 @sharanchakradhar, Can you setup a Manuel ADB connection via a terminal?
 @sharanchakradhar, Best to try in https://t.me/Welcome Plus that's the install group
 Let them know device and your op system and have a read of the pinned messsge. Thanks
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 @Michael, I didnt do it through terminal coz i use windows in my office laptop.  few days back installed twrp from cmd prompt and it worked well.
 What Version of installer do you usw? I had some issues with Version 1.20 und er Windows. With Version 1.9 it worked fine for me
 @NotKit, It was released with Nougat 7.1.1
[07:22] <ubptgbot> hzaljkDtccgT9 was added by: hzaljkDtccgT9
 No, oreo
 My 1+5 launched on nougat
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 may i sell here boss?
 @trybeliefme, No, you can't spam this group
 I've deleted your spam post. Consider this as a first warning
 @Michael, I will try now
 ok
 u knw where is group for spammer carder hacker cracker or coder guys?
 If you are interested in Ubuntu Touch, you're welcome.
 linux?
 i am not programmer
 Otherwise, please leave this group. Thank you
 okay
[09:14] <ubptgbot> UjqvZqysMGVS5 was added by: UjqvZqysMGVS5
 @vanyasem hey Ivan, what is the status of ubports on pme ? I may have an opportunity to get one second hand, is it usable as daily driver (mostly telegram, mail and webbrowsing)  … is convergence working on it ?
 @dorianvogel, as long as it's not on this page - https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/, it's not usable
 Oh right. From your halium/projectmanagement I imagined the porting was advanced.
 you've asked if it's ready for daily use. as long as it's not an official port, it's not
 What are the issues remaining ? (Sorry to bug you) … Well OK, daily use was a bit vague then. Do data, calls, SMS work ?
 no they don't
 and also latest halium updates broke the image overall
 so i'm not sure if i will be able to finish it at all
 because only the legacy image is working properly. newly synced tree crashes qdisplay.service
 also please note that there is no official support for halium by ubports yet
 it will be there once OTA 4 is out, but not yet
 so everything you see is trickery and hackery
 Oh... That's a pity, it's a perfect device for convergence ><
 oh also, convergence works on it
 Marius showed me a live demo (i don't have a type c - hdmi cable myself)
 @vanyasem, but well that was before stuff broke :P
 i'm still not sure what happened there, had no time to investigate lately
 but well don't worry, the port is not abandoned. when it happens, i will be very noisy, you won't miss it
 i am not the only one working on it, so chances are that Marius comes along and fixes everything once OTA-4 is out are pretty high :P
 Ok so the picture is not that bad... might still be a good bet. (anyway better that moto Z play and motomod bs ...)
 can I find in weblate the translation for the system indicators?
[10:37] <ubptgbot> <Fiona C> Thanks @dohbee and @advocatux for your help on here the other night. Tablet now happily flashed over 👍🏻
 👍
[11:04] <ubptgbot> APoMdpIkmAXo2 was added by: APoMdpIkmAXo2
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/XJkVuTgC.png
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/l1xOv8bA.png
 Is it going good?
 Or should I need to do something?
 It is still waiting to enter recovery mode but mobile already did
 Btw I’m using archlabs
[11:46] <ubptgbot> mnuesser1962 was added by: mnuesser1962
 @sharanchakradhar, Everything looks good, just be patient...
[12:33] <ubptgbot> <Antonio Rensi> @dorianvogel, Hello, which device is pme?
 @Antonio Rensi, HTC 10
 that gold guy
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/65Hs1oc0.png
[12:39] <ubptgbot> <Antonio Rensi> Looks nice! Thank you, Ivan.
 the HTC 10 is pure gold
 that picture made me regret not to buy the topaz gold HTC 10 I found some days ago.....not it was tagged as sold :(
 *now
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/oLpR0T3V.webp
 Biju please don't send random PMs to people. If you need help with ubports-installer please join https://t.me/WelcomePlus for assistance installing
[14:24] <ubptgbot> Aaditya Menon was added by: Aaditya Menon
[15:06] <ubptgbot> xxxvhxxx was added by: xxxvhxxx
 Hi guys want to install ubports on my nexus 5, I have a couple of questions, Like with programs and is it possible to use apk, can I install it in parallel with Android, how to return android if I do not like it.
[15:12] <ubptgbot> <Antonio Rensi> @xxxvhxxx, There is no: "Go back to Android".....kkkkkk
 @Antonio Rensi, what do you mean?
 @xxxvhxxx, - You can see the apps available here: open-store.io/ … - Is will/may be possible in the future to run Android apps … - No, there is no easy/supported way to get a multi-boot environment working … - For installation support and any question, you can go here t.me/WelcomePlus
[15:16] <ubptgbot> <Antonio Rensi> I'm joking....Once You try UT, you will no regret.
 @xxxvhxxx, To go back you must re-install android as by their tutorial
 There used to be a way to multiboot, but no longer. I'd suggest you try it out and see if you like it. You can always go back if you don't.
 @xxxvhxxx, multirom si not officially supported but someone managed to get it working on a nexus 5
 Really? That's interesting, I got a N5 too and thought it wasn't possible
 Do you have a link?
 @Gorsh2, all thanks, can I go back to android by installing twrp and downloading the zip Android?
 It would make my whatsapp-dependant friends very happy
 If you want to go back, you'd need to follow this instructions:
 https://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/tutorial-how-to-flash-factory-image-t2513701
 @Gorsh2, I don't think it's documented... @Javacookies did
 Oh. Alright, let's see if he/she/it? shows up and tell
 yeah, multirom works quite well so far on my Nexus 5
 I won't spoil you so I won't guide on how to install multirom if you haven't yet :D … multirom already supported UT even before but you need addition step to make it work with UBports images
 and that is to duckduckgo these words 😜  … "1.apk multirom ubuntu"
 @jonny, Sorry, what does actually mean "it would need a port"?
 @sharanchakradhar, great!
 @dorianvogel, Moto Z Play is booting and has keyboard mod though :)
 Does UBport can be installed Anbox software for apk installation?
 @pcharif, Arm devices (smartphones) don't work like x86 (PC). There isn't one ISO/image for all of them. You need to port the OS to each device (make an image for that specific device)
 @NikosChat, Thank you very much.
 Oh great... Github is down.
 @NotKit, Yeah but the mdk is just utterly expensive for what it is, the desktop mod did not materialize (afaik), and the fact that moto are the only suppliers for the connector is just silly (iirc makers of the keyboard had a lot of issues with that). … On the other hand usb3.1... You get HDMI+rj45 several USB for what, 50
[15:51] <ubptgbot> € ? … Anyway, sorry for the rant. … Great that you have ut booting ! Is it through halium ? I've been lurking if you would create an issue for the porting but it seemed your focus was more on the gemini.
 @dorianvogel, yes, just recently, I can if there is interest
 Dalton, what was decided on moving to Gitlab?
 @NikosChat, Why arm device (smartphone) cannot be liked x86 (PC) that one iso/image for all of them? … What are the problems caused arm device required port the OS?  … Because the OS is designed for PC originally? Or the problems come from the hardware support of PC is better than arm device? … thanks.
 @Photojoe4, It's not the right thing to do when people are waiting on an upgrade to 16.04. Throwing out every single workflow you have in the middle of a release is suicide
 That makes sense.
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/815yzlnx.mp4
 There is Ubuntu Touch - or nothing.
 There is a wide road that leads to privacy destruction and many follow it. There is a narrow path that leads to freedom and we are on it.
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/lRhU9xjY.mp4
 @pcharif, It means, UT cannot simply be installed on an Android device. Someone needs to take android sources for the device (they are different for each model), strip away a lot of stuff, put Ut on top of it and solve a million issues. With much luck UT works then.
 See docs.ubports.com for porting instructions.
 @jonny, Thank you.
 @pcharif, Arm is an other CPU architecture (like x86 is). They are build and work differently
 @pcharif, Because there has not (yet) been decades of hardware vendors being forced to work consistently with Microsoft drivers and the same decades of people reverse-engineering that support and adding to the Linux kernel.
 @Javacookies, I used to use it on my N4 back in canonical day so it's ok, if you say it would work on the 5 I'll give it a try
 also that there is at least some standardization for PC hardware and mechanisms to make it happen, compared to phones where they release a device with forked kernel, update it for a year or two and then forget about it
 @Javacookies, Anyway, what do you mean "addition step"? I guess you mean pointing it to the proper Ubports repos?
 @pcharif, afaik because there is no "bios" for mobile devices yet so once halium succeeds this might be possible?
 @Fuseteam, Halium is basically minimal Android system, so it depends on someone porting it for particular device first
 yes so if a working halium port exists and UT works with it, only one UT image should be necessary, no?
 no
 there would still be a different image set for each device
 UT is designed to only have one "rootfs" tarball, and device-specific things are meant to be in the device tarball
 @Gorsh2, yes, I mean exactly that, because the official multirom apks points to the image server of canonical
 ohw? guess i misunderstood the point of halium hmm
 Halium's purpose is to make it easier to port once and run any Halium-standard distribution
 @Fuseteam, halium makes it easier to port the android side
 It does not make a universal image for every phone
 ah i see i was thinking in reverse a single image could run on any halium device, like if some odm ships devices with halium any halium compatable os would run on it
 No. Halium is the thing that is different for every device
 The Ubuntu Touch image (you get it from http://cdimage.ubports.com/rootfs/) is the same in theory
 The part that gets replaced is Halium
 yes i know that's what i'm refering to 😅
 @Fuseteam, yes, but good luck getting manufacturers to do that
 if they were going to do that, then they're already going to be doing treble instead
 ohw yeah treble cause caf i believe haha
 plus android itself is not a "halium compatible OS" so anyone doing it would be doing so for the express purpose of not shipping the android UX
 was thinking if android was compatible they might be more inclined but tis a dream in a dream for now haha
 i imagine if there would be android halium project it would be to end the android fragmentation lol
 @Javacookies, Got it. Once I fix it (need to replace the battery) I'll try it out
 @Fuseteam, it's called treble
 eeeeh? am i reading that right? treble makes android run on halium? 👀
 no
 treble is the official google android thing to "end fragmentation"
 ah i see
 looks like i need to look up treble haha
 ohw tis only 8+ atm so that won't help with defrag 8- much less with porting i suppose rip
 [Edit] ohw tis only 8+ atm so that won't help with defrag 8- much less with porting i suppose rip as i believe halium is up to 7.1
 hi, I am on xenial RC, and wanted to ask how to see the recent calls (scope is empty). Is there another way (app, cmd) for it
 @balcy, On the phone app swipe from buttom
 wow never used that !? thanks !!
 for backups I found the file as well: /home/phablet/.local/share/history-service/history.sqlite  (SMS and calls)
[17:42] <ubptgbot> Angelina Corrielus was added by: Angelina Corrielus
[18:29] <ubptgbot> rstol was added by: rstol
 Is UB Ports true Linux on the phone? … If not is there a pure Linux based phone OS that does not need Android in anyway??
 @Ismail_ibn_Thomas_Al_Amreeki, if there is, what's the point if you have no device to run it on anyway?
 @NotKit, I have a device in mind. I just want a pure Linux OS so I can run Python, Java Script, etc on the phone...
 I mean, completely pure Linux OS (no libhybris, etc) would require supported hardware. Such is attempted by Purism for Librem 5 phone
 but you should be able to run Python, etc with UBPorts as well
 (not sure what you mean under JavaScript though, NodeJS?)
 @Ismail_ibn_Thomas_Al_Amreeki, Buy a Librem 5 from Purism
 but "pure linux OS" is meaningless. what it sounds like you mean is "traditional linux distribution as you have on a PC"
 UT is not a traditional linux distro
 and Android is still a Linux OS and you can run python, javascript, etc on it just fine
 If I install UB Ports on a phone can I then run Python, js (node, npm), bash scripts etc on the device?
 sure
 @dohbee, And I can import all the libraries I need in it?
 sure. you can install whatever debs are available for armhf ubuntu in the libertine container
 (you can also do this with a chroot on android itself too)
 Hi! I have nexus 5 with last 16.04 rc 8 but camera doesn't work. There's a plan to solve this bug?
 Thanks!
 is the bug reported in github issues?
 though camera was working fine for me on devel, the other night when i made a release of my app
 there was some issue with permissions stuff though, on my n5
 i'm not sure if it's because my phone specifically is borked, or a more general problem (nobody replied to my query here if anyone else was experiencing the same issue)
 @dohbee, I don't know..
 there are no plans to fix things which are not known to developers
 the way to make them known is to report an issue on the github project page :)
 In my n5 Camera have  a freeze and must restart camera
 @dohbee, Ok can you give me the link?
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues
 @dohbee, Thanks
 @mixmoto, Yea its a well known bug but without ETA for a fix
 For now scheduled for the OTA 5
 But who really knows. Doesn't seem to be an easy fix
 @malditobastardo, really? camera seems to work just fine on my nexus 5, aside from the fact that there's no trust store permissions in front of it, so i can't block apps from accessing it.
 something weird with camera_service i guess
 In devel the issue is when you try to record a video
 oh, only for video recording, not still photos or viewfinding?
 When you try to take a picture there are sometimes green/white screen freezes too
 Randomly
 but do you have the same permissions issue?
 ie, if you go to app permissions on privacy panel in system settings, what does it say for Camera?
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/611
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/LiP23iIY.png
 ok so you have same permissions issue as i do
 @malditobastardo, Thanks for the reply
 i'll open a new issue for it
 👍👍👍
 Thanks
 hi all, I installed today UP only version 16.04 rc or it was nit it was to develop develop, I ran into a problem, I wanted to read but I do not see a sensible reader, the one that does not load books in the market for some reason
 @xxxvhxxx, Try with sturm reader
 @malditobastardo, it is installed but when I open the book I see only the download ring for 5 minutes already
 ePub or PDF?
 epub
 need to convert to Pdf?
 @xxxvhxxx, No, Sturm Reader works best with epub
 @xxxvhxxx, Have you tried closing the app and trying open the book agai
 @xxxvhxxx, [Edit] Have you tried closing the app and trying open the book again?
 yes
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/eyI0Dssq.png
 I have never seen that problem. Could you please send me the app log with https://open-store.io/app/logviewer.neothethird … Or, if you prefer, could you send me the .epub file?
 Already and deleted all the time tis picture
 paste.ubuntu.com/p/P9hQ4pScXV/
 hmm, it needs updated to new uitk version, and looks like it has a few issues beyond that
[20:57] <ubptgbot> bollickybill was added by: bollickybill
 How is ubuntu touch now. Had a bq aquaris 4.5 but uninstalled touch for android. Has there been any improvements?
 many
 Are there any new native apps. Struggled with webapp interface! Too much effort with apps pushing to html pages. is it still the same?
 not sure what specific complaints you have there, but unfortunately probably not the native apps you want. big businesses like twitter/facebook/whatsapp aren't really interested in providing native apps for alternative platforms
 and some are very aggresive to third parties
 @xxxvhxxx, Try uninstalling and installing again  downloading the xenial version from the open-store https://open-store.io/app/sturmreader.emanuelesorce .Works for me :)
 How good is telegram app? I am using sailfish on jolla 1 atm but the phobe is reaching end of life at this stage. Thinking of porting nexus 5 to ut!
[21:37] <ubptgbot> <Antonio Rensi> @bollickybill, What do you mean by phobe?
 phone but with a b
 @bollickybill, Good enough, though always a little behind the desktop or android versions
 I'm on it as we speak
 @UniversalSuperBox, No. I use a phobe! Lok
 @UniversalSuperBox, [Edit] No. I use a phobe! Lol
[21:41] <ubptgbot> <Antonio Rensi> @UniversalSuperBox, Thanks, Dalton!
 Is there a native telegram app now or is it a webapp?
 There's a native app
 But... Rather than asking in here for every app, check out https://open-store.io for a complete listing of apps
 @NikosChat, De que parte del pais eres?
 NP. Looking at ut website, nexus 5 is probably the best phone for flashing?
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/lFNPTOw8.webp
 Bot's response to ping should be pong
 No, more people would do it then