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Doow!ops There's a lot of spam going on atm.08:42
ubottuDoow: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:42
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rbasakahasenack: no, by hand09:05
Unit193rbasak: Can we set this channel +r?09:20
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rbasakUnit193: I'm not an IRC op09:31
rbasak(and don't know what it means)09:31
Unit193rbasak: Means only registered can join.09:31
rbasakIt's not great because we do have quite a few drive by users looking for help here. But maybe it's necessary right now.09:32
Unit193Yeah, that's why I haven't yet.  But you're a channel reg sooo..09:33
rbasakWhat's a channel reg?09:34
Unit193Channel regular.09:35
rbasakAh :)09:36
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rbasakUnit193: let's do it09:47
rbasakUnit193: I can give you a list of nicks I recognise from /names if that'll help09:48
Unit193rbasak: I'd just either do the mute or +r for now.09:48
rbasakMute please09:48
rbasakThanks!09:50
tomreyneugenio: have you found the non-'live' ubuntu-server installer, yet?11:22
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coreycbjamespage: fyi heat is hitting this for py3.7: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.7/+bug/178485413:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1784854 in python3.7 (Ubuntu) "segfault in _abc__abc_instancecheck_impl at ../Modules/_abc.c:521" [Undecided,New]13:53
jamespagecoreycb: hurrah!14:05
ahasenackrbasak: hey, got a bug against mysql filed from the iso qa tracker at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/390/builds/177932/testcases/1404/results14:56
ahasenackrbasak: it was filed because the created users and databases are different now in cosmic: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/r4Ts5RwJj6/ compares the two14:56
ahasenackrbasak: differences are that the "test" mysql db is gone, replaced by one called "sys", and the created users are different14:57
ahasenackI think it's ok to update the test to cope with the new output, but wanted to check your opinion14:57
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naccahasenack: fyi, i'm wondering about something. https://github.com/apache/httpd/tree/trunk/docs/manual/style/lang is no longer empty (if it was before) and neither is https://github.com/apache/httpd/tree/trunk/docs/manual/style/xsl/util (says some of those files are 16 years old)16:25
naccahasenack: are they due to dfsg?16:25
naccoh wait, not dfsg -- so why is the latter empty in the orig/git?16:26
ahasenacknacc: you mean it's not empty in the upstream tarball?16:41
ahasenackhave to check the upstream tarball for the release we are shipping16:41
SlowJimmynacc only a few16:44
SlowJimmynacc i have /tmp /home /arbitrary16:44
ahasenackdo do I upload a new debian-installer-udebs?16:48
ahasenackit's in a different component: main/debian-installer16:48
ahasenackI need it rebuilt because of the bind9 lib soname bump16:48
ahasenackit currently has a depends on libdns-export1100-udeb16:48
ahasenackand the new lib is libdns-export1102-udeb16:49
ahasenacknacc: upstream tarball:16:52
ahasenackubuntu@cosmic-bind9-merge-9114:~$ tar xjf httpd-2.4.33.tar.bz216:52
ahasenackubuntu@cosmic-bind9-merge-9114:~$ find httpd-2.4.33/ -empty16:52
ahasenackhttpd-2.4.33/.deps16:52
ahasenackhttpd-2.4.33/docs/manual/style/xsl/util16:52
ahasenackhttpd-2.4.33/docs/manual/style/lang16:52
RoyK!pastebin | ahasenack16:52
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ahasenackRoyK: sorry16:52
RoyKahasenack: no worries - we all do that sometimes - usually not often, since several channels have bots that kick you or it ;)17:01
ahasenackrbasak: back yet?17:35
naccahasenack: i meant in the git repository18:16
naccso why is it not being tarred up?18:16
ahasenack¯\_(ツ)_/¯18:16
SlowJimmynacc only a few18:18
SlowJimmynacc i have /tmp /home /arbitrary18:18
naccahasenack: ack18:20
naccSlowJimmy: why are you mounting /tmp as a real fs?18:20
naccSlowJimmy: if it's just /home, you can just boot into the recovery, clear out /home (if you want) and set up fstab18:21
naccSlowJimmy: I don't know what you have on /arbitrary, but that's not a regular root directory, so doesn't exist yet (mkdir it from the recovery as well, and then set it up in fstabl)18:21
SlowJimmynacc: I am mounting a physical tmp to prevent server crashes when it's full18:23
SlowJimmynacc:  this home thing you said is brilliant saves me a lot of headaches18:24
SlowJimmyso basically i wanna have empty folders for my mounts18:24
SlowJimmyext for swap of course18:24
naccSlowJimmy: yes; you could also leave them as-is, but then you are using disk space that you can't really see (depending on how much you've already used on the system)18:27
naccSlowJimmy: and ack on the /tmp then18:27
marethi I've installed service on ubuntu server, I've opend the port in ufw but I still can't connect to it from outside  here is output of  netstat locally , ufw status and nmap https://www.pastiebin.com/5b61ff8f32e3218:53
RoyKmaret: well, 9696/tcp only listens on localhost, not the open address - quite probably your problem ;)18:56
whislockmaret: 1. netstat is deprecated, use ss going forward. 2. Your service is bound to localhost, and can't be accessed over the network.18:56
whislockSniped!18:56
RoyKwhislock: netstaat still works, though ;)18:56
whislockSo do telegraphs.18:56
whislockTechnology moooooooves.18:56
RoyKnot very well18:57
maretwhislock: RoyK  thanks just realized that. so is this something which is set on the service level or server level?18:57
whislockmaret: Service level.18:57
RoyKI use ss myself - but then - the old tools sometimes work just as well18:57
whislockRoyK: It's more and more common that netstat, et al., aren't included by default, so I try to nudge people to use the iproute2 stuff that's definitely going to be present.18:57
RoyKmaret: the service listening on this port, probably has a setting for which ip it should bind to18:57
RoyKI guess iptables is next out the window :)18:58
RoyKhave they started porting ufw to nftables, or will there be something new again?18:58
whislockNot sure there.18:58
RoyKnftables looks good, though - somehow the same jump (or more) than from iptachains to iptables18:59
jdstrandRoyK: I've long planned to add an nftables backend to ufw. I don't think iptables will be gone any time soon (as much as the netfilter community might like that) since there is so much inertia around iptables19:34
RoyKjdstrand: agreed - with the ipchains/iptables move, ipchains wasn't compatible with the by the new kernel (was it 2.2?) - with nftables/iptables, compatibility is still in kernel and will probably stay there for some time unless Linus has a fit19:42
whislockIs there perceived to be a big drawback to iptables?19:43
RoyKiptables works well19:43
RoyKand ufw is an iptables wrapper19:43
jdstrandRoyK: yep19:44
RoyKit's just that nftables does things better and integrates all of the filtering in one utility, from link layer and up, on all protocol, which is a good idea19:44
jdstrandyeah. it is cleaner, but iptables is proven in the field (not that nftables isn't, just saying iptables is still very useful)19:45
RoyKI guess we agree on most of this19:45
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rbasakahasenack: back now20:53
ahasenackrbasak: time for bed! :020:53
ahasenack:)20:53
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ahasenackrbasak: can you merge into hints-ubuntu?21:20
ahasenack(since you are here)21:21
rbasakNo, only for stable releases, sorry.21:21
ahasenackok21:21
ahasenackrbasak: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndctl/+bug/1781268 since ndctl doesn't exist in bionic, would this sru have to be handled by an archive admin?21:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1781268 in ndctl (Ubuntu) "SRU ndctl into Bionic" [Undecided,In progress]21:24
ahasenackor both? First an AA, then an SRU team member? Or the other way around?21:24
ahasenackit would go under some sort of "hardware enablement" reasoning21:25
rbasakBest put the HWE justification in the bug description21:25
rbasakI think it needs both SRU and AA review.21:26
rbasakI don't think there's clear consensus from TB/release team etc. people as to whether the AAs actually need to review or consider the SRU team's review good enough.21:26
ahasenackok, let's cross that bridge when we get to it21:27
rbasakSomeone (I forget who)'s logic was that if it's already been AA reviewed in the development release and there's no reason to consider it different for a backport to a stable release then an AA review isn't need as it's already done.21:27
rbasakneeded21:28
rbasakAnyway, get it uploaded with all the right paperwork and we'll see what queue it hits first. I'll guess Unapproved and then New :)21:28
ahasenackdeal21:32
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