ubptgbot<sharanchakradhar> @Gorsh2, It didn't work even after 2 hrs..01:35
ubptgbot<sharanchakradhar> @UniversalSuperBox, I can download this and boot it from usb using recovery and install?01:41
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> No, that is not how Ubuntu Touch is installed01:41
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> The welcome room has people who work around different computer setups interacting with the installer. @WelcomePlus01:42
ubptgbot<sharanchakradhar> so what is the file then used?01:42
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> It's used by developers making Ubuntu Touch ports01:42
ubptgbot<sharanchakradhar> Oh Okay01:43
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> The image build process can choose to repack it to contain device-specific files before it's placed on system-image and downloaded by phones or the installer01:43
ubptgbot<sharanchakradhar> Is there anyway to install by manually downloading, coz i tried in different systems with different files. Win7, Archlabs and Win10 Redstone 501:46
ubptgbot<jonny> @sharanchakradhar, People in the Welcome room will know. ;)05:18
ubptgbotOjahgyEf82 was added by: OjahgyEf8206:37
ubptgbotkipters was added by: kipters08:39
ubptgbot<kipters> Hello everyone 🙂08:40
ubptgbot<kipters> I've got a problem with the ubports installer, can anyone help me troubleshoot it? (macOS, hammerhead, gets stuck at `fastboot: wait for device`)08:42
ubptgbot<kipters> (btw I can find it with `fastboot devices`)08:44
ubptgbot<sharanchakradhar> @kipters, same issue08:54
ubptgbot<mattbel10> @kipters, Hi Fabio and welcome to the UBports community. For installation issues, please join the @WelcomePlus room where you can find experienced people who can better help you08:59
ubptgbot<kipters> @mattbel10, Thank you :D09:00
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ubptgbot<Gorsh2> @kipters, One simple thing that many report problems with: check the usb cable.12:38
ubptgbot<Gorsh2> I've seen it here a few times, that changing cables did the tricl12:38
ubptgbot<Gorsh2> [Edit] I've seen it here a few times, that changing cables did the trick12:38
ubptgbot<kipters> @Gorsh2, first thing I tried 😛 anyway, turns out the installer is just somehow broken on windows and macos12:40
ubptgbot<Antonio Rensi> Try with another version of the installer. Sometimes works too.12:43
ubptgbot<kipters> @Antonio Rensi, I tried multiple versions for each of the platforms, in the end it worked using a VM12:45
ubptgbot<Javacookies> anyone using Podbird? have you tried adding rss feeds from podcastgarden?13:00
ubptgbot<Javacookies> it doesn't seem to accept the rss URL from there :(13:00
ubptgbotLars Opgenoorth was added by: Lars Opgenoorth13:27
ubptgbot<Gorsh2> @kipters, Hmm I wouldn't know, I'm using linux13:49
ubptgbot<Lars Opgenoorth> does anyone know whether ubuntu touch has bluetooth scanner implemented and whether they are running by default?14:33
ubptgbot<dohbee> bluetooth works, but it is not always actively scanning i guess14:35
ubptgbotMoland Toxx was added by: Moland Toxx14:39
ubptgbot<Lars Opgenoorth> I am just wondering whether similar issues exist as under android, that it is hard to turn off the scanning itself - even when you turn off bluetooth in general...14:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> i don't know enough about the specific issue or why it happens on android to give an answer.14:43
ubptgbot<Mike> How can I restart network-manager without rebooting. I'm trying to get a ikev2 vpn working but rebooting is a pain14:53
ubptgbot<dohbee> `sudo restart network-manager` ?15:07
ubptgbot<Gorsh2> no, I think it would be...15:12
ubptgbot<Gorsh2> `service network-manager restart`15:12
ubptgbot<Gorsh2> At least that's how it works on linux on a PC15:13
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Either will do for upstart.15:25
ubptgbot<vanyasem> (Sticker, 512x383) https://irc.ubports.com/x5Sww0T3.webp15:25
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I still stand by that statement15:25
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Show someone a systemd unit and have them tell you what it does. Then show them an Upstart job and do the same. Upstart is way more readable. But, uh... @ubports_ot15:26
ubptgbot<Mike> I was trying with systemd but wouldnt work15:27
ubptgbot<Mike> Upstart did work thks15:27
ubptgbot<anpok> meh .. mx4 powered off when I attached an fttdi device via usb15:35
ubptgbot<anpok> [Edit] meh .. mx4 powered off when I attached an ftdi device via usb15:35
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Don't short the 5V to ground then. :P15:35
ubptgbot<anpok> haha ah maybe I did that15:38
ubptgbot<anpok> I had some stuff attached to a ESP32 dev board on a bread board..15:38
ubptgbot<anpok> colleague wants to order ubuntu touch devices as mobile development and maintance devices for esp32 based Sensors/Control units..15:39
ubptgbot<amolith> Does anyone mind if i take a screenshot of Telegram right now? I'm showing off convergence on UT15:48
ubptgbot<amolith> I'm going to take that as a yes. Ping me if you want me to delete it15:50
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @anpok, That sounds really cool15:53
ubptgbot<kipters> @amolith, just my 2 cents, since this is a public group the answer should be yes by default, IMHO15:54
ubptgbot<LarreaMikel> @anpok, FPGA instead of esp32.. but maybe it's interesting for your friend … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR9qWCTyyq416:05
ubptgbot<dohbee> @anpok, the serial usb drivers tend to be not built in the android kernels, though16:06
ubptgbot<anpok> Also we dont have a way to ship kernel modules16:11
ubptgbot<dohbee> right16:12
ubptgbot<dohbee> well, we're doing weird things to rootfs tarball for adding per-device things to it, which is wrong IMO, and we should be doing those bits with device tarball16:13
ubptgbot<Ralf_W> (Sticker, 512x383) https://irc.ubports.com/Tl7rsjsg.webp16:17
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @dohbee, You're right.16:17
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> UT has a way to do that built-in.16:17
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> And, by extension, halium-boot does too. We can provide files in the Android system.img and have those get mounted in place of files on the root image.16:18
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @anpok, We do, actually16:18
ubptgbot<anpok> Ahhh nice16:27
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> The problem is it doesn't seem to work that well. :P16:30
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> It's possible to `modprobe` it through Android's init system16:31
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Which was probably the intended purpose now that I think about it16:31
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> But you can't use `modprobe` from the Ubuntu shell. They aren't mounted in the right place for that.16:31
ubptgbot<dohbee> that seems fixable16:32
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Whereas usually you should be mounting at `/lib/modules/\`uname -r\`/`, they're put at `/lib/modules`16:33
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Wow, good job on escaping Telegram.16:33
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @dohbee, Probably. I need to do it for halium-boot but alas, no dev time for it right now16:33
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> In halium-boot we have the unique problem of "No one being able to agree where kernel modules go"16:34
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Always a good time16:34
ubptgbot<dohbee> somehwere under /lib/modules, but whatever16:36
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Arch is /usr/lib/modules16:40
ubptgbot<dohbee> arch also makes /usr/bin/python be python316:41
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I know16:46
ubptgbot<dohbee> anyway, it doesn't matter. mount them in the correct place for android in the android container, and let the OS running on top of that decide where it should overlay mount them in "user space"16:48
ubptgbot<Mike> Is anbox on devel in working condition?17:08
ubptgbot<dohbee> anbox is not ready for general availability yet, no17:12
ubptgbot<dohbee> it's not a development focus at the moment either. getting 16.04 out is17:12
ubptgbot<Gorsh2> @UniversalSuperBox, Cool. Good to know.17:19
ubptgbotKyle K was added by: Kyle K17:46
ubptgbot<mymike00> I installed aisleriot in libertine container. Is it ok preferences aren't persistent?17:49
ubptgbot<ArubIslander> @mymike00, If you don't mind, we don't either.18:35
ubptgbot<dohbee> i'm guessing that might be a bug-ish18:38
ubptgbot<mymike00> @ArubIslander, What? I mind, sure! If I want some toolbar being visible, I need to do it every time I open the app18:38
ubptgbot<mymike00> @dohbee, Is it known or should I report it?18:38
ubptgbot<dohbee> @mymike00, well you can check the open issues on github i guess. i don't have all the issues stored in my brain RAM :)18:39
ubptgbot<mymike00> 😆sure18:39
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Quite possible that it isn't a Libertine bug but a bug to do with the ARMHF build of the program?19:02
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> If you have a Raspberry Pi, try installing it there and see if the bug also affects that platform.19:03
ubptgbot<dohbee> @TartanSpartan, i doubt it. it's almost certainly because it can't talk to the settings daemon or can't start it or something19:06
ubptgbot<prpleXist> Hi which webapp creator for 16.04 dev19:15
ubptgbotR12G13 was added by: R12G1319:17
ubptgboterror0x001 was added by: error0x00119:38
ubptgbot<error0x001> Hello all. Do you have an idea about run this OS on redmi note 3 pro?19:39
ubptgbot<palein> @error0x001, If it has lineage os sources it should easily work but I tried it with my redmi note 4X and had problems I did not solve.19:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> it is not yet a supported device19:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> someone will have to create a port for it first19:42
ubptgbot<error0x001> @dohbee, :(19:42
ubptgbot<error0x001> Maybe another Linux OS system on the phone? It is really or only Android?19:43
ubptgbot<error0x001> [Edit] Maybe another Linux OS system on this phone? It is really or only Android?19:44
ubptgbot<dohbee> Android is a Linux OS19:44
ubptgbot<error0x001> @dohbee, Yes, I know19:44
ubptgbot<palein> Look on XDA Developers for roms. Maybe there is SailfishOS available for it.19:45
ubptgbot<error0x001> [Edit] Maybe another Linux OS system on this phone? Is it really or only Android?19:45
ubptgbot<error0x001> @palein, Ok, tnx!19:45
ubptgbot<NotKit> the general issue is that we can't easily run OS on any Android phone, and porting to each one takes considerable amount of time for debugging, etc19:45
ubptgbot<NotKit> [Edit] the general issue is that we can't easily run OS on any random Android phone, and porting to each one takes considerable amount of time for debugging, etc19:46
ubptgbot<dohbee> at least once halium + ubports is fully working it should be much easier to get new devices ported19:46
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> Please provide a working document viewer and a working browser for Xenial. … You claim to be „release candidate“ but there can never be a release without a browser or an email client. … Currently, both browser and browser-next break and Dekko is non-existent. … This can never be a release candidate.19:57
ubptgbot<dohbee> Patches accepted19:57
ubptgbot<dohbee> The people working on this all do so voluntarily in their free time.19:58
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> I know.19:58
ubptgbot<dohbee> If there's a specific thing you wish resolved, the best way to get it is to help work on that specific issue.19:58
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> I know.19:59
ubptgbot<dohbee> randomly making demands in the chat group as such is a bit rude. there are issues reported in github and people are working on those issues.19:59
ubptgbot<dohbee> then please do not make such demandingly worded statements20:01
ubptgbot<dohbee> while it would be nice to have all possible features always working and always maintained, it is not the case, and your personal desires do not determine what is or is not release worthy.20:02
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> You tell him, Rodney. Show some respect for this voluntary, resource-intensive and community driven project. Nobody is forcing you to use Xenial before it is stable.20:12
ubptgbot<dohbee> well nobody is forcing you to use it then either20:13
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> I know. I choose to use it on a tester device.20:20
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> Not saying that informed folks can't work with that. But if toy want it to be accepted by the public, you need instant mail, browse and document view, and all of it must be rock solid.20:20
ubptgbot<dohbee> i mean, one can still choose to use official android, lineageOS, flyme, postmarketOS, or whatever else they want on their phone, assuming they support the device. nobody is forcing anyone to use UT, regardless of the version20:21
ubptgbot<dohbee> most of the "regular" people i know wouldn't care about that. they care about whatsapp or snapchat, or whatever apps they need20:23
ubptgbot<dohbee> no need to be condescending abut it, either way.20:23
ubptgbot<dohbee> obviously UT isn't going to replace 20% of the android market overnight20:24
ubptgbot<dohbee> not even with the 16.04 release20:24
ubptgbot<dohbee> and definitely not without current gen devices being supported20:25
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> @Rodney Dawes, … I  am a strong supporter of UBports. Sorry if I got misunderstood. All I was arguing about was if the current state of UBports should be called RC or not. Everything you and the UBports project does is awesome, more awesome than I could ever have expected fifteen years ago, when I started to use Ubuntu.20:29
ubptgbot<palein> I wonder what would happen when Google replaces Android with Fuchsia OS.20:30
ubptgbot<dohbee> @palein, nothing relevant20:30
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> Sorry if I upset anyone. I did not mean to do this.20:34
ubptgbot<wrench wrench> ubuntu  screen is flikering21:33
ubptgbotDiego Valverde was added by: Diego Valverde21:44
ubptgbot<dohbee> @wrench wrench, Your PC?21:52
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Diego Valverde, Hi Diego, welcome! Take a look to https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started. … There are language focus groups available too :)23:01
ubptgbot<Diego Valverde> Hola a todos ,alguien que hable español?23:18
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Diego Valverde, Come to https://t.me/UBPorts_ES … (Este es el grupo en español)23:28
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> translation: (this is the spanish group)23:50
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> yw23:50
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> :P23:50
ubptgbot<advocatux> 😂👍23:58

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