[00:02] <ubptgbot> ChristianPlaza was added by: ChristianPlaza
[00:09] <ubptgbot> <ChristianPlaza> Hello, I would like to take the time to introduce myself. I'm Christian Plaza, aka Merlin2525 from Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. I'm a self taught graphic designer who has become very competent with Inkscape, the GIMP, MyPaint, and currently tackling Synfig Studio and Blender (Steep learning curve). Wayne had suggested I join t
[00:09] <ubptgbot> his group. Looking forward to collaborating with all of you.
[00:19] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Welcome! What brings you to our little corner of the Internet?
[01:06] <ubptgbot> <ChristianPlaza> @UniversalSuperBox, Thank-you. I'm a happy Nexus 5 user. I've been using 16.04 RC and submitted a few things to the cultural showcase. I would like to become more involved in helping this project out.
[01:13] <ubptgbot> <geotechland> @ChristianPlaza Welcome fellow Nexus 5 user :)
[03:23] <ubptgbot> mkbxwPnuONEh2 was added by: mkbxwPnuONEh2
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[04:58] <ubptgbot> <jonny> @ChristianPlaza, Great. Helping hands are always welcome!
[05:53] <ubptgbot> JBhai was added by: JBhai
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[07:39] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @JBhai, Hi Jithin, welcome! Take a look to https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed in no time at all
[07:41] <ubptgbot> <notcake> @advocatux, pretty sure you can make a userbot (which runs on user's account) or just a bot who will automatically respond on join messages
[07:47] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @notcake, Yeah, but we (the community) voted we don't like that, and we prefer the human touch whenever it's possible. One of the reasons is that in this way we can welcome people, introduce them to the welcome & install group, and guide newcomers to the different UBports places where they can learn all about this project, a
[07:47] <ubptgbot> nd find the best places to start collaborating with UBports according to their skills & interests
[07:49] <ubptgbot> <notcake> oh well, I guess that counts too
[08:38] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> :)
[12:48] <ubptgbot> eMPee584 was added by: eMPee584
[12:51] <ubptgbot> <eMPee584> Hi guys.. is there an easy way to check out ubuntu touch with qemu? … The ubuntu-emulator package seems to be abandoned 🕸
[12:59] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> There is not currently. You can install Unity8 on an Ubuntu 18.04 VM to try out the interface, though.
[13:12] <ubptgbot> <eMPee584> @UniversalSuperBox, Well is it on the agenda? it should help attract developers..
[13:14] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> it would be extremely difficult to get a reasonable approximation of the phone UX in a qemu VM at the moment
[13:15] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> and the ubuntu-emulator stuff basically never worked right
[13:30] <ubptgbot> <matv1> (Sticker, 512x383) https://irc.ubports.com/qtivA6qn.webp
[13:33] <ubptgbot> Irankbir was added by: Irankbir
[13:40] <ubptgbot> <imparker> airhorner.com
[13:40] <ubptgbot> <vanyasem> @imparker, uh?
[13:41] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> err
[13:42] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> copy/paste faux pas?
[13:48] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> clicks
[13:48] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> sees a big speaker
[13:48] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> doesn't dare to click
[13:49] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> closes tab
[13:49] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> i would expect you to see an air horn
[13:49] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> yeah probably an air horn pointed at you lol
[13:49] <ubptgbot> <eMPee584> @dohbee, Yes sure, and on the other hand it would allow to check out the state of ubports without owning/purchasing one of a handful supported devices.
[13:49] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> i'll induce that means clicking it would sound it off lol
[13:50] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @eMPee584, except not really.
[13:51] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> untill ut halium compatibility is resolved tis still difficult to run it in a vm
[13:52] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @Fuseteam, i don't think halium will solve any of the "run it in a vm" stuff really
[13:53] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> except maybe it might be easier to deal with an android vm
[13:53] <ubptgbot> <vanyasem> @dohbee, well it's actually the same. you could build an `emulator-x86` target before with a ubports-5.1 base
[13:54] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> i never said "solve" the "run in vm" stuff i said would be diffy without halium 😆
[13:54] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> [Edit] i never said it would "solve" the "run in vm" stuff i said would be diffy without halium 😆
[13:54] <ubptgbot> <alan_griffiths> @eMPee584, The effort involved be adding an additional "supported device" (which is clearly a major undertaking) PLUS developing and supporting the necessary VM on a range of platforms. … Not a good use of scarce developer resources.
[13:54] <ubptgbot> <vanyasem> but well it depends on what you define by "run in a VM". you can run regular ubuntu with unity8 in a vm. that's what plasma mobile does, bhushan just pushed a modified desktop ISO with mobile packages
[13:55] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @vanyasem, i meant more that it could be more stable and easier to maintain the x86 android vm bits, because there are a bunch of differences there from the phone builds of course, because why wouldn't there be, since it's android
[13:55] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> that is what i was thinking
[13:55] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @vanyasem, yes, but this is not "ubuntu touch"
[13:56] <ubptgbot> <vanyasem> Android emulator is still just patched QEMU :P
[13:56] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> it is a subset of the unity8 stack, and being on 18.04, some important differences from what's on the phones
[13:56] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> ohw yeah ubuntu touch is on 16.04 atm
[13:56] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> while unity 8 is on 18.04 i suppose
[13:57] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> well even if the unity8 install on 16.04 x86 got fixed to be installable, there are still a lot of differences from what's on the phone
[13:57] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> aside from packages?
[13:58] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> yes
[13:58] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> i'm guessing convergence features?
[13:59] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> as in ut has convergence unity 8 is just the desktop part
[13:59] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> [Edit] as in ut has convergence while unity 8 is just the desktop part
[13:59] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> if you run it directly on a spare laptop, it might be a little closer, since then you could use bluetooth with it, and theoretically screen rotation and a data SIM and GPS, depending on what hardware you have
[14:00] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> wowsers a laptop with gps i'm so behind in the times 😆
[14:01] <ubptgbot> <eMPee584> ok I understand the difficulties & appreciate your effort integrating with Halium... guess a qemu target will reappear in due course 😏⏳
[14:25] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> 4 years ago today....
[14:25] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> (Photo, 2048x1536) https://irc.ubports.com/XyrI4n5S.png
[14:25] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> am I eligible to get a UBports shirt? 😁
[14:26] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> i have one of those
[14:48] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @Javacookies, Yes, you are eligible! Please, follow carefully the instructions here https://www.patreon.com/posts/new-patreon-are-19753997 😆
[15:00] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> LOL I've done that already but it's not enough to get the items 😅
[15:00] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> would have been a good timing, I'll be back in Frankfurt this September 👍
[15:33] <ubptgbot> <bollickybill> How is convergence going to work when ubuntu transfers away from unity to gnome!
[15:34] <ubptgbot> <Lyokanthrope> Doesn't affect Ubports really
[18:41] <ubptgbot> olEGcmmizUUz8 was added by: olEGcmmizUUz8
[19:02] <ubptgbot> <bollickybill> @Lyokanthrope, But if i link utphone using unity to a gnome desktop will there not be conflict?
[19:04] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @bollickybill, i don't see what that has to do with convergence?
[19:05] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> or what conflict there would be. the phone isn't running GNOME
[20:38] <ubptgbot> <bollickybill> u look awfully like harrison ford!!
[20:47] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> you do not
[21:12] <ubptgbot> <bollickybill> how do you know? Maybe I am harrison ford!!
[21:12] <ubptgbot> <Gorsh2> Let's test it
[21:13] <ubptgbot> <Gorsh2> "You see a tortoise on the beach. It's upside down..."
[21:13] <ubptgbot> <bollickybill> ok
[21:17] <ubptgbot> <bollickybill> is there voice for navigation on uNav app?
[21:20] <ubptgbot> <Gorsh2> Yes, on a lot of languages
[21:20] <ubptgbot> <bollickybill> cheers
[21:23] <ubptgbot> PopaMangusta was added by: PopaMangusta
[21:25] <ubptgbot> <Bolly> Welcome @PopaMangusta !!! Check out this to get you started! If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or in our Welcome and Install room! https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome