| sonicwind | hey tom | 00:03 |
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| daftykins | uh oh | 00:04 |
| tomreyn | hi sonicwind | 00:17 |
| === guiverc_d is now known as guiverc | ||
| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 04:28 |
| TJ- | baah, they broke my 2-in-1 again, can't boot it | 04:36 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: whats running on it? | 04:38 |
| TJ- | 18.04. It uses encrypted /boot/ so GRUB needs its cryptodisk/luks/etc... modules built into core image (grubx64.efi), but for some reasons despite my keep on removing them, upgrades reinstall the -signed- Canonical packages which don't contain those modules (despite my reporting the bug about 2 years ago!) and they replace the locally built grubx64.efi. If the device reboots it cannot access the | 04:41 |
| TJ- | /grub/ file-system, and as it's a tablet-ish format has only 1 USB port, which has to have the USB keyboard attached (because the Bluetooth detachable keyboard isn't accessible at this point) | 04:41 |
| TJ- | Got hit by this previously and removed all traces of the -signed- GRUB packages, but seems they've come back. | 04:41 |
| TJ- | Cannot recall now how I managed to get past it either, grrr | 04:41 |
| lotuspsychje | sounds like a job for eric | 04:42 |
| TJ- | Looks like I have to get it to boot into a USB install directly that already has the Bluetooth keyboard authorised | 04:43 |
| lotuspsychje | whats the device brand TJ- | 04:44 |
| TJ- | This is my Asus T300CHI | 04:44 |
| lotuspsychje | lets c | 04:44 |
| TJ- | The model makes no difference; this is an Ubuntu problem due to -signed- GRUB packages getting reinstalled and over-writing the locally created grubx64.efi | 04:47 |
| lotuspsychje | https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2289159 | 04:48 |
| lotuspsychje | http://www.jfwhome.com/2016/01/04/latest-steps-to-install-ubuntu-on-the-asus-t100ta/ | 04:50 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: bug abandoned for 2y lol classic | 04:59 |
| lotuspsychje | breakfast first | 05:00 |
| TJ- | That's core Ubuntu all over nowadays... devops chasing the shiny new rather than engineers securing the foundations | 05:00 |
| lotuspsychje | indeed | 05:01 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: should be divided in teams | 05:01 |
| lotuspsychje | maybe they think volunteers chasing bugs enough :p | 05:02 |
| TJ- | It is, but as far as I can see the old-time Debian engineering-minded developers have moved on and haven't been replaced. E.g. Colin Watson used to be the God of GRUB, he's also a GRUB project committer, but he resigned from that in 2014 I think it was... and no one at Canonical has stepped up | 05:03 |
| lotuspsychje | alot of new effort needed in IOT these days | 05:04 |
| lotuspsychje | have you looked at canonical vacancys lol? | 05:04 |
| TJ- | It's the same across the board. Ubiquity installer is so fragile now he's moved on no-one dare touch it, and we know what happened with the server version of it (subiquity) | 05:04 |
| TJ- | lotuspsychje: mostly cloud devops and oem sales/support | 05:04 |
| lotuspsychje | https://www.canonical.com/careers/all-vacancies | 05:05 |
| lotuspsychje | cloud engineers what a list | 05:05 |
| lotuspsychje | brb | 05:06 |
| TJ- | right, more and more I consider going back to Debian | 05:06 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: i still like ubuntu's vanilla ease and phylosophy | 05:51 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: but as you say a solid foundation is to be cared for, on every Os | 05:52 |
| TJ- | yay! managed to build a custom grubx64.efi inside an LXD container on this BIOS-based system, stick it on a USB storage device as /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI, and use the EFI setup to add it as an entry to the bootmenu on there. From that I was able to unlock the LUKS /boot/, reset root= and prefix= correctly, and do "insmod normal", "normal" to bring up the system's usual boot menu | 05:53 |
| lotuspsychje | nice one TJ- did you add it to the bug story | 05:53 |
| TJ- | as this channel is logged I'll copy the command I used to build the grub EFI file | 05:53 |
| lotuspsychje | morning guiverc | 05:53 |
| TJ- | No I didn't but I shall | 05:53 |
| TJ- | grub-mkimage -v -p /boot -o /boot/efi/EFI/UBUNTU/grubx64.efi -O x86_64-efi part_gpt fat ext2 efi_gop cryptodisk luks gcry_rijndael gcry_sha1 usb usbms usb_keyboard efifwsetup efinet iso9660 help gcry_sha256 loopback lsefi lsefimmap lsefisystab lvm mdraid09 mdraid1x part_msdos ntfs ntfscomp squash4 tftp http udf ufs1 ufs2 exfat ehc | 05:54 |
| TJ- | i uhci cat | 05:54 |
| lotuspsychje | tnx | 05:54 |
| guiverc | howdy lotuspsychje | 05:58 |
| lotuspsychje | seems like the spammers gone to sleep? | 06:02 |
| mwsb | Let's hope so. | 06:02 |
| mwsb | Hasn't been anything in my channels for a while now. | 06:02 |
| lotuspsychje | mwsb: wich are your channels? | 06:02 |
| mwsb | 55 or so random channels. I'm not really going to enumerate them all, but a few of them have been pretty god targets for the last week or so (due to decent size user base and minimum ops) | 06:03 |
| mwsb | s/god/good | 06:03 |
| lotuspsychje | kk | 06:03 |
| lotuspsychje | lets hope they release lts upgrade path now, so we can build up some more users | 06:04 |
| mwsb | guiverc: Aussie though | 06:04 |
| mwsb | Ahh, unfortunately they are back | 06:06 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 06:06 |
| guiverc | aussie? aussie; wanna vegemite sandwich? | 06:06 |
| mwsb | No | 06:07 |
| guiverc | sorry - i didn't recognize who you were mwsb ... i finally got around to clicking your name & recognizing .... | 06:08 |
| mwsb | Ouch, I'm sorry you recognise me. | 06:09 |
| mwsb | lotuspsychje: ##guitar just got hit again - I guess the other channels have +r'd up :( | 06:09 |
| lotuspsychje | maybe they wakeup on this timezone | 06:11 |
| lotuspsychje | they were in discuss here aswell and has -r now | 06:11 |
| mwsb | They've also hit #-ops since, so | 06:11 |
| lotuspsychje | mwsb: lol guitar gives auto op to users? | 06:12 |
| mwsb | Yeah :/ | 06:12 |
| lotuspsychje | the bots too? :p | 06:12 |
| ducasse | good morning | 06:12 |
| mwsb | Yep | 06:12 |
| lotuspsychje | not the greatest idea | 06:13 |
| lotuspsychje | hey ducasse | 06:13 |
| mwsb | lotuspsychje: Hey, we're guitar players, not smart people. | 06:14 |
| lotuspsychje | mwsb: you want the auto voice chanserv command? | 06:15 |
| mwsb | Nah | 06:15 |
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| mwsb | Ouch | 06:24 |
| mwsb | lotuspsychje: I blame you! | 06:24 |
| TJ- | I think writing up how to fix the failed signed EFI boot took longer than fixing it! | 06:24 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 06:24 |
| lotuspsychje | there we go again mwsb | 06:24 |
| acheronuk | there is not much of that spam in here compared to some of the channels | 06:28 |
| lotuspsychje | weird acheronuk | 06:28 |
| acheronuk | a lot of core chans are now +r. but it was weird which got spammed more even before that | 06:31 |
| acheronuk | maybe I expect people who ultimately drive the bots to have more brains than they deserve credit for | 06:31 |
| lotuspsychje | acheronuk: the way i see it, botnet spamming is always a risk and pretty dumb thing to do... | 06:33 |
| lotuspsychje | so not sure if they can 'outsmart' much | 06:33 |
| mwsb | My project at the moment concerns botnets | 06:34 |
| acheronuk | lotuspsychje: yeah, don't get me wrong. we are dealing with a sliding scale on dumbass here. I realise that | 06:34 |
| mwsb | But don't really have a use-case for this particular scenario. | 06:35 |
| lotuspsychje | acheronuk: :p | 06:35 |
| lotuspsychje | mwsb: im interested, whats your project about? | 06:35 |
| mwsb | Ummm, I can't really tell you much more. | 06:36 |
| lotuspsychje | dont worry, we are also in a logged channel here so | 06:36 |
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| EriC^^ | morning all | 07:55 |
| TJ- | G'morning | 07:58 |
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| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 09:53 |
| lotuspsychje | hey there BluesKaj | 09:58 |
| BluesKaj | Hi lotuspsychje | 10:04 |
| lotuspsychje | patato salad with ham & haricots for lunch here | 10:06 |
| BluesKaj | mmm, sounds good ! | 10:08 |
| tomreyn | TJ-: not being able to lock the screen and having to restart X whenever i leave the computer for some minutes on this ubuntu 16.04 system was getting on my nerves, so i just installed ubuntu-desktop in addition to the previously installed xubuntu-desktop, as well as gdm3 in addition to lightdm, and made gdm3 the default (i'm still using xubuntu, though). and ... everything's fixed. | 11:52 |
| tomreyn | 'groups' lists all groups, i can lock the screen and reactivate it. | 11:53 |
| TJ- | tomreyn: well nothing has changed in lightdm for a long time - that was something I checked for. So I think the changes in policykit-1 and/or systemd-logind have had unintended consequences. I allowed my T300CHI (also Xubuntu) to upgrade packages but by bit earlier, and even after all upgrades installed it doesn't get affected. | 11:59 |
| TJ- | tomreyn: I'm beginning to wonder if it is a timing issue. You saw it in a VM (which is relatively slow)and my affected PC is a 2007 Dell XPS Core 2 Duo | 12:00 |
| TJ- | that doesn't explain why I can consistently reproduce it by the order I open a shell though | 12:00 |
| TJ- | From what I've seen so far, it's the way sessions and users are handled - the session is supposed to be asociated with a user and their groups. I think when it goes wrong that is failing | 12:01 |
| tomreyn | maybe, i'm not really able to make a good guess at this point. | 12:08 |
| tomreyn | just want / need things to work, sorry... | 12:08 |
| TJ- | Yeah same here. At least there's a way to be sure it does (TTY login first ) | 12:09 |
| tomreyn | this would not have fixed my other issues. but it's good that you found this workaround for the 'groups mismatch' issue | 12:11 |
| daftykins | sounds like a tangled web alright | 12:12 |
| daftykins | TJ-: you'd be so proud, i bought a multimeter! :D | 12:13 |
| TJ- | tomreyn: the no-lock bit, is that Xubuntu? is it using light-locker? I had loads of problems with that and eventually removed it | 12:13 |
| * TJ- awards daftykins the Hawkins medal :) | 12:13 | |
| tomreyn | TJ-: i didnt spend much time looking for a root cause, so i dont really know. | 12:14 |
| daftykins | :D | 12:14 |
| TJ- | tomreyn: "ps -efly | grep lock" :) | 12:14 |
| tomreyn | it is and was using light-locker, yes | 12:15 |
| TJ- | tomreyn: anything regarding in xsession-errors? | 12:16 |
| tomreyn | nothing at all , nor xorg log | 12:16 |
| tomreyn | i can't reproduce it now, luckily, so it doesn't make much sense trying to debug it now | 12:17 |
| TJ- | right, the best kind of bug that dies on its own | 12:20 |
| tomreyn | it's probably still there, just not in this current constellation of installed packages. | 12:24 |
| lotuspsychje | hey pragmaticenigma | 13:24 |
| pragmaticenigma | howdy | 13:24 |
| pragmaticenigma | testing testing ... is this thing on? | 13:43 |
| lotuspsychje | yes | 13:43 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 13:43 |
| pragmaticenigma | looks like I've got fun connectivity issues today... yay! | 13:43 |
| lotuspsychje | ask some money back @ isp :p | 13:43 |
| lotuspsychje | or..dont download & irc hehe | 13:44 |
| daftykins | \o/ | 13:44 |
| pragmaticenigma | hopefully it's stable now | 13:44 |
| nacc | wow, super spam-y in #ubuntu today? | 18:26 |
| nacc | not the spam attack, but random users | 18:26 |
| tomreyn | looks like | 18:27 |
| tomreyn | yay, it's an acer! | 18:27 |
| nacc | lol | 18:27 |
| nacc | just throw it in the trash :-P | 18:27 |
| nacc | (i would never just throw a computer in the trash) | 18:27 |
| pragmaticenigma | it usually is when they don't cooperate | 18:32 |
| tomreyn | i was thinking it was one of the old netbooks at first, but apparently this is just some rare but well equipped model | 18:47 |
| daftykins | netbooks definitely belong in the bin | 18:47 |
| daftykins | where 'bin' is an official ewaste recycling point of course (: | 18:48 |
| tomreyn | :) | 18:49 |
| nacc | daftykins: +1 :) | 18:49 |
| lotuspsychje | good evening to all | 19:33 |
| tomreyn | hi | 20:33 |
| tomreyn | server-live-installer lvm partitioning bug: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1785321 | 20:33 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1785321 in subiquity "LVM Entire Disk option does not use entire disk" [Undecided,New] | 20:33 |
| daftykins | hahaha | 20:33 |
| daftykins | did you see the one where if a disk had a partition table already, subiquity would fail? | 20:34 |
| tomreyn | no | 20:34 |
| daftykins | i think it's all been sorted now though, but it was still present on release of 18.04 | 20:34 |
| tomreyn | geez, i really hope whoever made that decision to call it stable is on a loooong trip now. | 20:35 |
| daftykins | :D | 20:35 |
| lotuspsychje | lucky that user came to ubuntu | 20:44 |
| lotuspsychje | tomreyn: could this be related to ltsupgrades holdups? | 21:09 |
| lotuspsychje | that commit is 31/7 | 21:09 |
| tomreyn | lotuspsychje: this is really young | 21:09 |
| lotuspsychje | right | 21:10 |
| tomreyn | i'm not sure how to tell whether this is or will be in an alsa release for bionic | 21:10 |
| lotuspsychje | ah he's getting answered in -release | 21:13 |
| toto_ | hi | 21:33 |
| daftykins | lo | 21:36 |
| lotuspsychje | what can we do for you toto_ | 21:36 |
| daftykins | we should sing 'Africa' acapela until we know (: | 21:39 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 21:39 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: you gonna make an ubuntu circle with me? | 21:39 |
| lotuspsychje | hahaha | 21:39 |
| lotuspsychje | or dualboot | 21:39 |
| daftykins | :D who will be our #3? | 21:40 |
| lotuspsychje | you skared him :p | 21:42 |
| tomreyn | il parle francais, tu sais... | 21:42 |
| lotuspsychje | ahh duh... | 21:42 |
| lotuspsychje | we should have seen proxad | 21:42 |
| tomreyn | maybe english, too, idk | 21:43 |
| daftykins | oh yeah that was the guy in from last night | 21:43 |
| tomreyn | oh the one with the finnish ubuntu installation | 21:44 |
| tomreyn | <toto_> i have just finish ubuntu 18 installation on my computer | 21:44 |
| daftykins | really o0 | 21:45 |
| daftykins | for those who really want a challenge :D | 21:45 |
| tomreyn | i assume they meant 'finished' though | 21:45 |
| daftykins | hehe oh right in that sentence, yeah that's not too far wrong i would say :D | 21:47 |
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| hggdh | hum | 23:25 |
| daftykins | bug | 23:26 |
| daftykins | :) | 23:26 |
| hggdh | heh. While it is an eventual spam, I think we are still better off without +r. If it gets more frequent (even though they are being killed) we can go +r for another while. | 23:28 |
| tomreyn | there was this other complex mode where only channel ops get spammer but not non-ops. i liked this ;-) | 23:31 |
| tomreyn | and it doesn't require +r | 23:31 |
| tomreyn | #freenode would know | 23:31 |
| hggdh | tomreyn: ends up being similar -- it is a quiet for non-registered, with the +z mode | 23:34 |
| hggdh | the end result is, still, non-registered cannot chat | 23:34 |
| hggdh | (this is how #freenode is running right now) | 23:35 |
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