[00:00] granttrec: https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ [00:00] tomreyn: that makes sense, thanks mate [00:02] qwebirc41437: okay, i checked the chat log, you said you used the server live installer 18.04.1 [00:03] so, it should have written the 1 ther ein the first place. i guess it's another bug in it. i'll try to reproduce this soon. [00:05] tomreyn: affirm [00:05] tomreyn: fstab & mdadm.conf should be correct [00:06] tomreyn: do I still need to update-initrmfs -u [00:07] qwebirc41437: yes, but this is not the right options [00:08] qwebirc41437: update-initrmfs -k all -u [00:08] qwebirc41437: actually better use -c [00:08] qwebirc41437: update-initrmfs -k all -c [00:09] tomreyn: done [00:09] qwebirc41437:normally, an /etc/fstab file created by the ubuntu installer (at leats the old one), would haver had some comments on top. did you maybe edit these or could it be that werbmin removed them? [00:09] fresh install, so no webmin [00:10] tomreyn: no edits by me either [00:10] qwebirc41437: okay i must have mixed that up about webmin, sorry [00:11] qwebirc41437: i *think* we're good. [00:11] tomreyn: no you were correct, but after my first reboot, I reinstalled 18.04.1 again [00:11] i see [00:12] tomreyn: we are good. thank you more than you know. anywhere I can leave you some karma? [00:13] is this edible? [00:13] could be [00:13] ;) no thanks [00:14] just do yourself, your projects, me, and the world a favor and try to get rid of webmin [00:14] done [00:14] + learn your ways on he temrinal. break things more, and repair them. [00:15] it's easy (summer time), but I start school again in two weeks. then I don't have time to break things [00:15] correction - I don't have time to fix them [00:17] qwebirc41437: hehe. well, you can do it in some coring nights in winter. get a cheap system-on-chip computer (like a raspi, but not a raspi, but something that runs proper ubuntu) and train there. or just a cheap VM in the cloud or on your desktop computer. [00:17] *[b]oring [00:18] qwebirc41437: now, does it boot fine? [00:18] what depency solver do you guys use? aptitude just saved my life [00:18] granttrec: this channel is not good at polls. apt works fine. [00:20] tomreyn: my bad just wanted know about others, aspcud is also great [00:20] granttrec, check out #ubuntu-discuss and #ubuntu-offtopic [00:25] tomreyn: booted fine, thanks to you [00:25] faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to leap tall building with a single bound, it's Apt. [00:27] qwebirc41437: glad to hear this! :) [00:30] qwebirc41437: did you do manualpartitioning on the installer, or just the guided installation? [00:32] does ubuntu-18.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso include an install option for cinnamon as the GUI? [00:34] dff: The iso will install Gnome by default and not contain Cinnamon within the image. You can download and install Cinnamon as a package afterwards though. [00:34] dff: i dont think so, but you can install it after the installation finishes and the default ubuntu system has booted: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-cinnamon-desktop-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux [00:35] tomreyn and adrian_1908, might i not just install it was console only and after that install cinnamon? [00:36] s/was/with [00:37] dff: Not sure. You could in theory use the Ubuntu server and build things up from there, but I don't know how limited Ubuntu server is as a Desktop out of the box. [00:38] Never done it, maybe someone else has experience with doing it that way. [00:38] is it possible to completely get rid of gnome? [00:38] with all the dependencies and stuff [00:38] after the initial install [00:39] No idea, I use Xubuntu. [00:39] actually, cant i build my own iso that has cinnamon instead of gnome [00:41] dff: either works. [00:42] it's been ages since i did that last, could you point me in the right direction, tomreyn? [00:43] dff: the same. there's this but i'm not sure if it still works, or which installer it would work with: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization [00:43] apt live-build [00:43] or something [00:44] dff: this guide is based on what is now known as the alternate server installer [00:46] tomreyn: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man7/live-build.7.html [00:46] found it :) [00:49] dff: i haven't used this one, but it seems to be about building live cds primarily. [00:49] my understanding is you plan to create a eprsistent installation. [00:49] what can I use for recursively permission changing in a graphical way? Nautilus proprieties in a folder lets me change the owner, but the files inside it are untouched, something like chown -R owner:group R Folder/* isnt something that can be done in GUI? [00:50] tomreyn: you can install from live cds cant you? [00:50] xjkx: you can, from ubuntu installer/live cd's yes. [00:52] xjkx: i would assume that this functionality is not exposed on the GUI on purpose. [00:52] to prevent mishaps [00:52] tomreyn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeDistroHowto [00:52] Tools for building distro, The easiest way to build your own distro is to use Ubuntu live CD and customize it to your needs. [00:53] tomreyn: alright, thanks [00:55] dff: i don't think DerivativeDistroHowto still discusses the current way of doing things technically (but maybe organizationally). [00:55] found something else [00:55] To customize a clean .iso from the command line You can use the 'Ubuntu Customization Kit' [00:56] Is it safe to delete a swapfile for space? [00:56] th package is called uck [00:56] I can't boot into Ubuntu an... And I need to free up some space. [00:56] Does anyone here know about the debmirror tool? I need to mirror a the apt repos to my local network, but the example debmirror script is not working. I am wondering if the tool is still supported in Ubuntu 16.04 [00:56] and this aswell https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-builder [00:57] This channel has been hacked by Australia's #1 hacker Simon 'eVestigator' Smith https://evestigatorsucks.com/ [00:57] With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ [00:57] I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/ [00:58] Woodpecker: if you don't mind loosing the functionality, you can remove the swap file (and remove the reference to it off /etc/fstab). i'd look into other options for freeing space first, though. [00:58] found another gui application, Custom Ubuntu ISO Creator [00:58] Thankt === guiverc_w is now known as guiverc [01:00] tomreyn: if you are interest i found i pretty sweet step by step guide, https://askubuntu.com/questions/741753/how-to-use-cubic-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-image [01:04] dff: nice, i didn't know this. apparently it's still maintained. https://launchpad.net/~cubic-wizard/+archive/ubuntu/release [01:10] does anyone know how I can remap the eject key on a keyboard to do nothign? [01:11] what happens when you press it now? [01:11] Topic [01:11] it opens the disc drive [01:11] it's right above my delete key, so I accidentally hit it often [01:12] why am i getting this error when running the command with --allow-unauthenticated? [01:12] http://paste.debian.net/hidden/3d1cfee7/ === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [01:14] jayjo_: oh, i assumed you were on an airplane. try this then https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/keyboard-shortcuts-set.html.en [01:15] also this https://askubuntu.com/questions/296155/how-can-i-remap-keyboard-keys [01:15] tomreyn: oh goodness... backspace to clear the shortcut worked. [01:16] !yay | jayjo_ [01:16] jayjo_: Glad you made it! :-) [01:16] lol, on an airplane [01:18] dff: try with apt-get [01:18] same result tomreyn [01:19] i tried adding [trusted=yes] in /etc/apt/sources.list to [01:19] and all the other variants of that parameter i could find [01:22] dff: hmm that's unexpected to me, too. which ubuntu release is this? [01:26] Hi, how can I slow down my trackball in Ubuntu and i3wm using the command line? I tried with xset m 1/100 4 but it doesn't make any difference [01:29] any idea how to move my clock to the right on gdm3 ubuntu 1804? [01:30] on the toolbar now it's in the middle [01:31] tomreyn: you asked earlier if I had used manual or automatic for the 18.04.1 installer, I tried the first time with manual and the second I went with automatic [01:32] qwebirc60227: thanks [01:33] tomreyn: earlier versions (12.04 I think) had an option under manual to restore/update current installation. 18.04.1 doesn't [01:33] jayjo_, might look here, didn't read it all but looks like some 3rd party type fix.. >>>https://askubuntu.com/questions/960597/how-do-i-move-clock-to-the-right-end-of-gnome-3-panel-from-the-middle [01:35] qwebirc60227: hmm i think it does have the option of not formatting partitions [01:36] tomreyn: it might, but I couldn't move on from that installation screen until I partitioned the boot drive again [01:37] qwebirc60227: partitioned or formatted? [01:37] tomreyn: pretty sure partitioned [01:37] qwebirc60227: oh right we're talking about the server-live-installer. you'd need to use the alternate installer then [01:38] Hello, my webcam isn't working anymore and I would need help to figure it out please. I'm on ubuntu 16.04. It used to work a few days ago. I already try restarting my laptop and when I so sudo lsof /dev/video*, it gives this result : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2YT2T8MyR4/ [01:41] dedze, do you have another webcam to try out? that would help. [01:41] Tin_man: I might, let me check [01:42] Tin_man: BTW it's a built in webcam [01:42] ahh, that's a bummer. [01:42] but if another works, then it's hardware, more than likely [01:44] Tin_man: :(((((( [01:44] i agree === wjtaylor____ is now known as shinobi [01:45] my laptop doesn't have a built in.. so I'm not familiar with the inner workings.. [01:46] Tin_man: The hp webcam works. I'm never ever buying lenovo anymore. Less than 2 years, the screen broke because of the bad quality of the plastic and now the webcam lmao [01:46] Thanks for your help :p [01:46] bummer, i've kind of heard similar from others [01:47] Medion, lenovo, bad brands [01:47] Hahaha have a good evening/night/morning Tin_man [01:47] maybe it will start working again.. :) [01:49] That would be great hahaha [01:49] lol I am about to get a w530 [01:51] Need help fixing overlapping partitions [01:58] what does the boot pausing stating "A start job is running for Raise network interfaces (4min 13s / 5m 1s)" [01:59] donofrio: it means your machine isn't getting an ip address [01:59] the timeout is set to 5 minutes [01:59] it's wifi.... [01:59] sure [02:05] I installed ubuntu studio 18. How different is this than regular ubuntu? I've got openssh-server installed, but i twon't start. ssh.service: Failed with result 'exit-code' [02:06] craigbass76, try #ubuntustudio [02:07] danieru98, Nope, it's this line in sshd_config : AllowUsers craig@*, amanda@192.168.199.0/24, sam@192.168.199.0/24, nate@192.168.199.0/24 [02:08] At last I know now. ssh, not ubuntu... [02:08] Should haev tried that first... toodles [02:10] This channel has been hacked by Australia's #1 hacker Simon 'eVestigator' Smith https://evestigatorsucks.com/ [02:19] danieru98: The issue isn't specific enough to Ubuntu Studio. Since it's just a slightly customized Ubuntu, low-level stuff like that applies here, which is where we usually send people for things not specific to Studio. [02:20] oh [02:35] qwebirc60227: i think we were discussing bug 1680245 earlier - subiuquity is the installer software of the ubuntu-server-live-installer [02:35] bug 1680245 in subiquity "subiquity does not take in account existing partition" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1680245 [02:37] tomreyn: thanks, I'll take a look [02:37] tomreyn: and I doubt I'll be impatient next time and do a fresh boot. Far better to wait for upgrade [02:40] qwebirc60227: well, fresh installations can make much sense. maybe this installer is still too young, though. i also filed bugs #1785354 and #1785356 as a result of what we did today. [02:40] bug 1785354 in subiquity "/etc/fstab: fs_passno is 0 for all file systems" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1785354 [02:40] bug 1785356 in subiquity "Please generate version 4 block device UUIDs, not version 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1785356 [02:41] tomreyn: yeah, that one was odd, never seen it a zero for boot drive, so I didn't even think to look [02:46] I am trying to use ddrescue to recover hard drive. already have an image but when I mount it or copy the iamge to a new hard drive i am unable to view all contents/files [02:47] any help? [02:47] I get errors like "This location could not be displayed" [02:48] Any help? [02:49] quiltbitch: if you imaged a full drive with a partition table on it then you should use kpartx or similar utilities to interpret the partition table and gain access to the partitions on it. [02:50] quiltbitch: i do not understand which command / process exactly returns the "This location could not be displayed" error message, though. [02:54] quiltbitch: it appears this error message is retruned by nautilus, gnome's (graphical) file browser. i would very much recommend to do any kind of data recovery on a terminal, so that you'll know what exactly failed when something fails, and can get better feedback. [02:54] :-/ [03:10] what is this chanel, is someone here? [03:11] yep [03:11] This channel has been hacked by Australia's #1 hacker Simon 'eVestigator' Smith https://evestigatorsucks.com/ [03:11] leon, this ubuntu support [03:12] oh, sounds great [03:35] Hello [03:38] anyone ? [03:38] ave Nvidia 5200m. and using the additional driver from Nvidia. I want to only use Intel GPU and turn-off Nvidia. I try to do this with " prime-select intel " all is okay. but when system reboot KDE not working and Only Show Me a black screen with mouse cursor. [03:43] anyone here? [04:21] Hello, does anyone know if Ubuntu will run well on a 2017 Macbook Air? [04:36] !info screenshot [04:36] Package screenshot does not exist in bionic [04:37] !info take screenshot [04:37] 'screenshot' is not a valid distribution: artful, artful-backports, artful-proposed, bionic, bionic-backports, bionic-proposed, cosmic, cosmic-backports, cosmic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, [04:43] !screenshot | jk^ [04:43] jk^: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imgur.com/ and link the created page here. [04:50] @jk - I'm using screenshot tool from gnome extensions. You can also save directly to imgur with the extension. === Budgii_ is now known as Budgii [05:22] is youtube-dl free software? [05:25] This channel has been hacked by Australia's #1 hacker Simon 'eVestigator' Smith https://evestigatorsucks.com/ [05:26] iss youtube-dl free software? [05:27] irckat: packages from the ubuntu repos you can download free [05:29] I mean license [05:30] irckat: public domain [05:31] So why Ubuntu repos says youtube-dl is proprietary ? [05:33] irckat: https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl/blob/master/LICENSE [05:34] irckat: why do you need to know, what are you planning to do exactly? [05:34] ok, I see Thank you [05:35] Just ask === _explodes is now known as explodes [06:12] ... [06:12] 222 [06:12] 555 [06:12] 55 [06:12] 55 [06:12] 5 [06:12] nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ uname -a [06:12] Linux ubuntu-ivan 4.17.12-041712-generic #201808030231 SMP Fri Aug 3 06:34:11 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [06:12] nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ [06:13] :) [06:13] Thanks. === Dreaman is now known as CrackerJack [06:28] tomreyn: it's 18.04, virtualised with kvm === qwebirc23728 is now known as raidensnake [06:30] got a new issue [06:30] if I do a clean install of 18.04 I get a kernel failure on startup [06:30] gave up onm suspend/resume device [06:31] gave up on* [06:33] hi [06:33] hey! how is everyone? [06:33] dead [06:34] same [06:35] Hello, Xenial, how can I get the package libsss-nss-idmap-dev with version >=1.15.2? Is there any PPA for it? [06:37] Guess I'm a bit to new.... PPA tjormola/samba-unstable had the SSSD package, didn't reliaze it also included dev packages... solved it! [06:38] any idea why I get the gave up on suspend/resume device? [06:41] Anyone have any experience getting ibus-anthy working for japanese IME Romanji input? [06:41] Most of the sources I keep finding are older or don't seem to work [06:46] help [06:48] ? [06:49] qwebirc69505: you wont get any unless you read the topic [06:49] (and follow it) [06:51] it's annoying 18.04 won't start [06:51] It's probably because of sysd [06:51] qwebirc69505, ask your question (keeping to a single line) and be patient, and if someone knows how to answer your Ubuntu Support question - they will. please ba patient in waiting for an answer; people do other things... [06:52] ... or uefi. === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [07:20] I have Harman Kardon quad speakers in an ASUS laptop running Ubuntu. Two speakers are at constant 100%, while remaining two speakers are controlled by system volume. Anyone have any thoughts on this? [07:24] new2ubuntu, check in terminal 'alsamixer' and see you could set all speakers to volume you want [07:30] ledeni, when I adjust Master, it has the effect of changing volume via buttons (two speakers seem to drop out). Changing Speaker volume seems to do nothing. Changing PCM bring all speakers up and down (success!). Can I map my hotkeys/buttons to change the PCM level instead of the Master level? [07:32] new2ubuntu, i don't know sorry [07:33] All good. Thanks for pointing me in a direction, nonetheless! [07:34] new2ubuntu: maybe xbindkeys can help [07:38] Looking into that now. :) [07:41] it's annoying I have to compile and install a custom kernel to get 18.04 to work [07:43] I have had to do quite a few things, so far. I was saving compiling a kernel as an absolute last resort. [07:46] It looks like xbindkeys would be more for setting those keys to run alsamixer in a terminal like a shortcut. Getting closer. Is there a console that only shows how the system recognizes keys? If there were a way to see how those keys were recognized, then edit some config file to reassign those keys to adjust PCM volume instead of Master volume, that would do the trick. If it were actually that easy, that would also be a plus. [07:47] new2ubuntu: "xev" might show how they're being interpreted [07:52] Both volume buttons return identical values. [07:53] Interesting output, though I have no clue what I'm looking at. Add it to the Google list. [07:57] new2ubuntu: i think those buttons aren't normal ones, they have to do with some acpi function stuff or something [07:57] new2ubuntu: i think however xbindkeys can read them, and you can assign a command to run when they're pressed [07:58] new2ubuntu: like XF86AudioLowerVolume assigned to some command [07:59] AH! [08:00] if you get a keysym like XF86AudioLowerVolume, then i think it's just a normal key, handled by software [08:01] By the by, showkey -k shows the key numbers, for future reference. And you're right, EriC, these are keys 114 and 115. Not standard. [08:02] new2ubuntu: aha [08:04] new2ubuntu: try 'xbindkeys -k' then press the key [08:05] new2ubuntu: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xbindkeys [08:07] The xbindkeys -k command threw an error, so I'll check back in after I check out that link [08:07] aha. Didn't create the blank file [08:12] hey guys! [08:13] I upgraded from LTS 16.04 to LTS 18.04 and it seems like texlive is screwing me hard with unmet depencies [08:14] i tried also this ( https://askubuntu.com/questions/336795/ubuntu-fix-dependency-problems ) but no success [08:14] :( [08:14] qwebirc76856: What dependency issues is it complaining about? Can you pastebin it so we can see? [08:14] I am allowed to pastebin the whole error message here? [08:15] qwebirc76856: use a pastebin, not in the channel, but yes. [08:15] gotcha, one sec [08:15] qwebirc76856: https://paste.ubuntu.com/ will work, or whatever else is fine [08:17] https://pastebin.com/kkD2DhRK [08:18] qwebirc76856: Alright, can you please pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get update` [08:19] here we go https://pastebin.com/j54tJ6Tr === Dreaman is now known as Blade === Blade is now known as gdgdgdfgd [08:23] qwebirc76856: Alright. For the record, looks like you've still got some xenial PPAs in there. But as far as I can tell, none of them are TeX related. So, lets just cut to the chase. Can you please pastebin the output of: [08:25] `apt-cache policy context texlive texlive-binaries texlive-latex-base texlive-base texlive-metapost fonts-freefont latex-cjk-common texlive-science tipa fragmaster dvipng` [08:26] https://pastebin.com/MhbzLNkg [08:31] does policy option show you the installed version vs remote version on the server? [08:32] qwebirc76856: It shows what versions you have in your cache, including what's installed, and also the priority of each. [08:32] qwebirc76856: What does `sudo apt-get install texlive-binaries` get you? [08:32] ah interesting [08:33] qwebirc76856: You seem to have half of xenial installed and half of bionic. [08:33] for tex stuff, anyway. [08:34] https://pastebin.com/bW2NmW4y [08:35] thx for mentioning that the PPA is still xenial, I may will change that after the texlive problem? [08:35] qwebirc76856: ok, lets do `apt-cache policy libtexenc1 libkpathsea6 libfontconfig1 libharfbuzz0b texlive-base texlive-lang-japanese` [08:35] qwebirc76856: Yeah, lets handle one problem at a time. [08:36] qwebirc76856: also pastebin (can be the same one) `apt-cache policy libxml-libxml-perl perl` [08:36] https://pastebin.com/pvW9DYWX [08:37] and https://pastebin.com/8Dq8twv9 [08:38] qwebirc76856: ok, so perl is also old. What happened during your upgrade? [08:38] btw I have run dpkg --configure -a and tried to remove libxml via dpkg [08:39] I suppoe that the upgrade was canceling due the texlive depencies conflict [08:39] is that possible? [08:39] I haven't seen any dependency conflicts yet. Just a half-upgraded thing. [08:40] I mean, it is possible that you had upgrade issues, but usually they're caused by somethign else. [08:40] qwebirc76856: Just for kicks, lets try upgrading perl. And if that doesn't work, we'll walk back and start focusing on the larger issue that may be lurking. [08:40] qwebirc76856: `sudo apt-get install perl` [08:41] I am afraid I cant install new packages... https://pastebin.com/n2LRra6k [08:42] qwebirc76856: Yeah, ok. and `sudo apt-get -f install` doesn't fix it, yes? [08:42] excactly [08:42] how badly I am screwed from 1 to 10? [08:44] qwebirc76856: Don't panic yet. Do you have any files in /etc/apt/preferences.d/ ? [08:44] nope [08:46] no panic here, errors are a good base to learn more about the system :) [08:46] qwebirc76856: ok, lets see if we can't just start removing some of the Texlive packages. Although the perl thing.... but we'll see if we even have that as an option or if it's going to freak out. `sudo apt-get remove texlive-latex-base` [08:47] I've tried that before. I cant remove it [08:47] E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). [08:52] qwebirc76856: Ok, lets... just make sure we're not missing something that's actually wrong with the repositories. What does `sudo apt-get check` get you? [08:53] thank you for your effort! [08:53] https://pastebin.com/S7CfD56c [08:56] qwebirc76856: So, at this point, I'm not sure there's anything we can do that's "nice". It's time to bring out the big guns. But also the point where things might start getting weird. So, just to be safe (since destroying your packages shouldn't delete your data, even if you somehow cause the system to stop booting), do you need to make any backups of things? :) [08:56] I am ready for rumble [08:56] :-D [08:57] qwebirc76856: Basically, what I think we're going to end up doing is using dpkg to manually remove (and we'll have to "force" sometimes) the packages that are still stuck with xenial. We SHOULD be able to then reinstall them with apt, and they should behave fine. [08:57] I just don't know how "far down" we'll need to go. [08:58] ok! I have tried to dpkg remove the packages which caused problems (according to dpkg --configure -a) [09:00] qwebirc76856: dpkg understands dependencies, so it won't /normally/ remove things that apt wouldn't. But you can force it to do things (and even if that'll break other things, like dependency chains, etc) [09:00] which is why things might get hairy [09:00] ah ok, I guess I didnt use the force option [09:01] may the force be with me [09:01] what's up? [09:02] package fiasco? [09:02] not much [09:02] n17r4m: looks like a system that somehow managed to half-upgrade and won't finish upgrading naturally. [09:03] apt-get -f install doesn't work? [09:05] doesnt work [09:05] I wasnt able to remove or purge the packages [09:06] https://pastebin.com/S7CfD56c === capella is now known as capella|away [09:09] so should we force remove things? [09:09] have you tried re-adding texlive-binaries and texlive-base-bin ? [09:09] or are you trying to purge these things? [09:11] qwebirc76856: anyway, with `dpkg --force-depends -r [package]` You should be able to remove packages even if they don't have satisfied dependencies. I recommend first trying to remove all of the packages listed in your first pastebin (https://pastebin.com/kkD2DhRK), that is the stuff to the left of the colons. Not necessarily the stuff on the right (although that may be in the next round) [09:11] qwebirc76856: We're just trying to remove broken packages enough to let apt do its thing. [09:12] alternatively, texlive-base I think, maybe, is the meta-package that would add in the missing dependencies.. [09:12] did you have any ppa with texlive packages before upgrading? the upgrade process disable such ppas [09:12] qwebirc76856: I also would do a single package at a time, just so things go slowly. [09:12] n17r4m: At this point, all apt does is complain about being broken. [09:13] qwebirc76856: (so, 'left side' would be `libxml-libxml-perl`, but `perl` would stay, etc) (line 71/72) [09:15] ok [09:15] I will start with 'dpkg --force-depends -r libxml' ? just to be sure [09:15] if you are lucky, the ppa has packages for 18.04 too, so re-enabling the ppa should fix things [09:17] qwebirc76856: libxml-libxml-perl would be one package, I don't see `libxml` on that page [09:17] ah ok! [09:17] qwebirc76856: It's certainly an odd name, but I who knows. [09:19] seems like I can remove it [09:19] https://pastebin.com/FdqqQkys [09:20] qwebirc76856: Right, good. Now, do it for all of the packages on that pastebin. THEN we'll try to stop using force and see if the package state makes more sense. [09:21] qwebirc76856: also, I guess keep track of the outputs, because each one is going to say "so-and-so depends on [that package you just removed]" [09:21] can I perform a 'sudo dpkg --force-depends -r texlive*' ? [09:21] qwebirc76856: that is a valid command. I'm not sure it's wise, but it's valid. [09:22] so step by step? [09:22] It's entirely up to you. You could do texlive-lang*, that might be a bit more scoped. [09:24] test line! [09:24] texlive* would also maybe work.. [09:25] n17r4m: It would remove packages that aren't broken though, like texlive-binaries [09:26] i'm confused about eeh... 'linux' and their spectrum of distro's [09:26] tex, latex, and lyx are some of my favourite packages... [09:26] mine to, but now they have to disappear :D [09:26] wait, but why? [09:28] i've tried, manjaro, mint, lubuntu, a few others and they all perform somewhat the same on 'live' and as soon as i install it it runs slow af [09:28] i have only 1 outstanding question to be answered as i'm on my own to solve my techy troubles... [09:29] n17r4m because of the package fiasco. afterwards I will install it again [09:29] after force removing texbase it seems like the other packages are gone [09:30] maybe no need to install it again then? [09:30] what is the easiest linux distro for 'windows' hamsters like myself to start fucking around with? [09:30] qwebirc76856: If you want to see what's still broken, just do an apt-get check, and it'll tell you. [09:31] well thanks Flannel, that is the first FTR answer i've heard since i had a job as a call-agent [09:31] 'gentoo' It is terrifying liberating. [09:31] as liberation is.... [09:31] sorry, inside humour [09:32] thanks man, i'll check on it (one more time then *sighs) [09:32] qwebirc53553: what? [09:32] as defined by a brief reading of forums.gentoo.org [09:32] qwebirc53553: I was talking to qwebirc76856, not you. You just have similar nicks. [09:32] If it's slow after install, you likely need to install proprietary graphics drivers [09:33] oh... i thought if get apt anything don't work, why not try 'check' for a change ;) [09:36] ubuntu is just a very nice unix. english not so good. [09:38] linux comedy ain't my strongsuit @n17r4m [09:40] about the driver 'issue' yes, i've checked that, there's more problems then that, it's packing a i7 for fcks sake [09:41] it seems i can't auto install the appropriate drivers for geforce 6600gt [09:41] Flannel, apt-get check gives me no errors [09:41] also SMART said SELFTEST FAILED [09:41] on all tests [09:42] apt install nvidia-drivers ? [09:42] but after fresh boot SMART says it's performing good [09:42] hold on i'll try everything in order first [09:43] repair broken system [y|n]? [09:43] Y [09:44] so, I worked 6 devastating years in tech support. [09:44] I am sorry n17r4m [09:45] And I want to fix your linux problem [09:45] ^^ [09:45] ^^ [09:46] so apt-get check throws no errors anymore! what is the next step [09:46] when was the last time that you rebooted (don't reboot now) [09:46] me? [09:46] yes [09:47] maybe some hours ago [09:47] you're ubuntu is in a virtual machine? [09:47] nope [09:47] dual boot with win 10 [09:48] ok, so you're typing from a different computer? [09:48] nope [09:48] I am on the machine! [09:48] oh, switch. nice. [09:48] does ubuntu boot into gfx mode? [09:49] wait, I guess you refering to the other qwebirc [09:49] haha [09:49] ubuntu wins [09:49] can I change name with /name blah ? === qwebirc76856 is now known as p2b [09:49] no /NICK blah === qwebirc53553 is now known as fortless [09:50] * n17r4m oh's [09:50] there, now we sorted something out [09:50] here we go. I am the guy with the package fiasco [09:50] i'll wait my turn [09:51]