| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 07:42 |
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| zxmoy-pi | morning mammals... | 08:15 |
| brobostigon | morning elves | 08:22 |
| penguin42 | hmm, energy supplier trying to raise prices in the middle of a contract | 14:26 |
| daftykins | that's rather rude | 14:27 |
| penguin42 | yes | 14:27 |
| daftykins | great news, the lady who works in the cancer research charity shop near me has agreed to take older fixed up computers from me for selling in the shop \o/ | 14:28 |
| daftykins | i'm always getting offered old machines that wouldn't be so bad with a bit of time spent + Linux installer to rid them of the EOL Windows they may have come with | 14:28 |
| * penguin42 isnt sure how well a cancer research shop would deal with selling a Linux machine | 14:29 | |
| daftykins | one way to find out :D | 14:30 |
| daftykins | probably just list them for pennies i would recommend to her anyway - and obviously i'd be just gifting them | 14:30 |
| penguin42 | wouldn't it be easier to take it to one of the 2nd hand shops and then give the money to Cancer Research? | 14:32 |
| daftykins | they operate as a second hand shop... | 14:32 |
| daftykins | at least that's the idea i was getting from looking inside :P | 14:33 |
| penguin42 | well yes, but there are 2nd hand tech shops that know which end of a computer is which | 14:33 |
| daftykins | haha, maybe in England | 14:33 |
| daftykins | no such thing over here | 14:33 |
| penguin42 | ah | 14:34 |
| daftykins | and why would they need to be knowledgable themselves? if there were printed up spec sheets on each | 14:34 |
| daftykins | anyway, can but give it a try with one or two and see how it goes | 14:35 |
| daftykins | i don't want to go hoarding junk myself that can't be shifted | 14:35 |
| penguin42 | yeh; although if they can't shift it then they have to end up paying to get rid | 14:36 |
| daftykins | no we have free electronics recycling | 14:36 |
| penguin42 | is that only for individuals or for companies/organisations as well? | 14:38 |
| daftykins | well it wouldn't be a problem at scale if they can't get rid of the first few, would it? | 14:40 |
| zxmoy-pi | isn't there a charity that specifically takes old machines for sending to africa and other poor parts of the planet? | 14:40 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: How old are these machines? | 14:41 |
| daftykins | nah you know what, forget it - i've had enough of the negativity | 14:41 |
| zxmoy-pi | https://camara.org/ | 14:42 |
| zxmoy-pi | i'd jsut be worried that i'd end up with all the 'i can't find internet explorer icon' calls... :-/ | 14:43 |
| diddledan | I wonder if camara would accept a Compaq Proliant rackmount server | 14:46 |
| diddledan | Pentium 3!!! | 14:47 |
| penguin42 | ouch | 14:47 |
| zxmoy-pi | when the pentium bug was fresh in the intel engineers mind... | 14:47 |
| daftykins | don't see how any support would come back to me :) | 14:48 |
| * penguin42 still has my original Pentium 90 in the corner (it doesn't have the fault, because I got the chip replaced!) | 14:48 | |
| zxmoy-pi | oh in that case daftykins... :-) | 14:48 |
| daftykins | i have thought it through a little bit more than you lot seem to be considering :D | 14:49 |
| diddledan | put a flyer in the package promoting $competitor for people to call for help "finding the internet button" | 14:50 |
| daftykins | the mentioned charities are a nice idea, but i'm not paying to ship old gear off island | 14:50 |
| zxmoy-pi | cheap boat anchors for sale! :-D | 14:50 |
| * penguin42 once had an old SPARC server at work that was a performance reference; we called it 'ballast' | 14:51 | |
| daftykins | come to think i was going to phone up some guy on the smaller islands to see if they had any use, too | 14:51 |
| diddledan | put his or her mobile tephelone number on the flyer and state 24/7 | 14:51 |
| diddledan | does Sark have the internet yet? | 14:51 |
| daftykins | they have a microwave radio link for their telephone exchange to here xD | 14:51 |
| zxmoy-pi | we had a line driver... a primite ups for ironing out spikes in mains power from the late 50s early 60s. weighed about the same as 4 hp laser jet iii's | 14:52 |
| diddledan | ouch | 14:52 |
| diddledan | that's HEAVY | 14:52 |
| daftykins | Sark actually had the highest broadband take up of anywhere here | 14:52 |
| zxmoy-pi | we used it as a door stop | 14:52 |
| zxmoy-pi | that door was going nowhere | 14:52 |
| diddledan | I really should weigh my proliants to see how heavy they are | 14:52 |
| penguin42 | compaq machines weren't known for being light | 14:53 |
| diddledan | they really aren't light - I can barely lift one on my own | 14:53 |
| zxmoy-pi | mult mode computes... also paperweights... | 14:53 |
| daftykins | ah those old machine chassis were crazy | 14:54 |
| daftykins | the first batch contains a core 2 duo desktop, an HP DV6000 which i'd be surprised if even worked and a compaq laptop that might contain an AMD X2 | 14:55 |
| zxmoy-pi | pressed steel cases, recycled wwii tanks... | 14:55 |
| penguin42 | core 2 duo was usable - this laptop is | 14:56 |
| daftykins | keyword 'was' :D | 14:56 |
| diddledan | I loved my core2 | 14:56 |
| penguin42 | I just use this machine for irc though, opening a browser makes it think | 14:57 |
| diddledan | I had an athlon64 before that | 14:57 |
| daftykins | yeah the modern web is a bit of a different story | 14:57 |
| daftykins | well, i can only imagine those happy to pick up a machine for <£50 from a charity shop have low standards to be doing so :) | 14:58 |
| zxmoy-pi | these people expect more for less | 14:59 |
| daftykins | so what's the real angle here for why you're being so negative about the idea? doesn't seem to be any skin off my nose but a small amount of time | 15:00 |
| diddledan | I say it's a good plan :-) | 15:01 |
| daftykins | ^_^ | 15:01 |
| diddledan | letting folk have access to cheap second hand gear means that those with not much money have the ability to get a working pc which will get them on or keep them on the innernet - especially as government stuff is going mostly online-first | 15:02 |
| diddledan | and it helps the charity with a bit of money | 15:02 |
| diddledan | and you get shot of dead stock :-) | 15:02 |
| zxmoy-pi | this is the sort of customer you can expect... https://notalwaysright.com/search/charity+shop | 15:03 |
| daftykins | yep and it doesn't end up dumped in landfill | 15:04 |
| * penguin42 made this core2 a lot better by putting a small SSD in instead of the spinning rust | 15:05 | |
| zxmoy-pi | couldn't find any spinning rust in latest argos catalog.... | 15:05 |
| daftykins | yeah, i don't think i'd be willing to even throw in cheap ones and expect some money back before passing them on - though it would definitely make a difference to make them SSD based | 15:05 |
| daftykins | naturally they're gonna need checking for if the old spinners are faulty | 15:06 |
| daftykins | zxmoy-pi: even that seems to be hassling the store staff and not me ;) | 15:07 |
| daftykins | so, RIP Barry Chuckle... no longer will an answer be spoken to 'To me...' | 15:18 |
| diddledan | :-( | 15:29 |
| daftykins | also wth at their 80 year old brother marrying a 26 year old 'fan' | 15:30 |
| zxmoy-pi | moving slightly beyond fandom there to superfan... | 15:32 |
| diddledan | not so much daddy-complex as great grandaddy-complex | 15:37 |
| daftykins | xD | 15:38 |
| daftykins | a wild m0nkey_ ! | 20:58 |
| * m0nkey_ does m0nkey stuff | 21:05 | |
| daftykins | ooh look at 'im go! | 21:05 |
| daftykins | how're things? hot in diet 'murica right now? | 21:05 |
| m0nkey_ | diet america.. lol | 21:09 |
| m0nkey_ | yeah, it's a bit warm | 21:09 |
| daftykins | any fires still raging? | 21:11 |
| daftykins | even Guernsey was feeling left out - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-guernsey-45059371 | 21:11 |
| daftykins | i covered quite some miles on the ol' 2 wheels yesterday, https://goo.gl/maps/ELBiZnPr7a72 | 21:22 |
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