[00:01] <tomreyn> !details | bilm
[00:02] <tomreyn> jiffe: can you show the command you run and the output it returns, using a pastebin?
[00:02] <tomreyn> !pastebin | jiffe
[00:02] <tomreyn> jiffe: also, why do you want to remove apparmor in the first place?
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[01:15] <semitemos> Hello, I'm trying to do some file recovery using Linux on a bootable drive. Is there a freenode channel specifically for that?
[01:15] <lotuspsychje> semitemos: we only support ubuntu questions here
[01:20] <semitemos> How about using a Ubuntu live USB to recover files from an SSD drive
[01:22] <lotuspsychje> semitemos: you need the program testdisk to use sudo photorec, to recover files
[01:23] <lotuspsychje> semitemos: preferable use another harddisk to scan your ssd from
[01:23] <semitemos> I don't have another hard disk but I was going to try booting from USB to scan the ssd
[01:24] <semitemos> Can photorec find only files that need to be undeleted, or will it find all the files on the 256GB drive?
[01:25] <jim> semitemos, this ssd, what operating system do you use it with?\
[01:25] <lotuspsychje> semitemos: photorec can filter on filetypes if you like, aka .jpg, .avi ,etc
[01:26] <lotuspsychje> semitemos: if you need all kinds, you can also scan whole partition
[01:28] <jim> which filesystem type is the ssd formatted with?
[01:31] <OICU812> Does regeneration stack?  I have a cloak with +regen and an amulet of regen.
[01:31] <semitemos> Jim it is NTFC unfortunately
[01:31] <semitemos> Windows
[01:32] <jim> semitemos, hmm, so you're looking to undelete files on that drive?
[01:32] <adrian_1908> OICU812: probably wanted another channel, eh?
[01:32] <semitemos> Yes
[01:32] <OICU812> adrian_1908: Yes, lol,  I'm sorry.
[01:32] <adrian_1908> :D
[01:34] <jim> semitemos, and it's not mounted on anything right now?
[01:34] <semitemos> Jim no it's turned off. It's an internal SSD, so I have to boot from USB to access it
[01:35] <jim> semitemos, so it's the main drive on your laptop?
[01:37] <lotuspsychje> jim: he already said its his only hd
[01:38] <jim> howbout this guide: https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/13706/recover-deleted-files-on-an-ntfs-hard-drive-from-a-ubuntu-live-cd/
[01:39] <semitemos> Yeah the laptop is off now. It has one USB port and one micro SD port
[01:39] <semitemos> Word!
[01:39] <jim> do you have microsds?
[01:40] <jim> also do you have another machine?
[01:40] <leftyfb> semitemos: is the SSD bad or are you just trying to "undelete" something you deleted by mistake?
[01:40] <semitemos> This is a guide for ubuntu 9.10 is the only thing
[01:40] <semitemos> I'm trying to undelete a mistake
[01:41] <semitemos> I have another machine and one micro sd
[01:41] <lotuspsychje> jim: that guide is old and ntfsundelete isnt in repos anymore
[01:41] <jim> ok, so that gives you some options
[01:42] <semitemos> Is "ntfsundelete" still a valid program in today's Ubuntu
[01:42] <lotuspsychje> no
[01:42] <leftyfb> semitemos: try photorec as suggested
[01:42] <jim> lotuspsychje, does ntfsundelete come from a debian repo? maybe you can get the debianized source and build it
[01:42] <lotuspsychje> jim: stop please or be helpful
[01:43] <jim> what's unhelpful about that?
[01:43] <semitemos> Photorec seems a little clumsy as the files deleted were all kinds of file extension, and I just want to undelete some files that I deleted today
[01:43] <lotuspsychje> jim: scroll up, i just told it
[01:44] <leftyfb> semitemos: try it
[01:44] <leftyfb> semitemos: also, learn to have backups and not delete stuff you're not supposed to
[01:45] <lotuspsychje> jim: its nice you try to help, but avoid picking up old tutorials with outdated packages
[01:45] <jim> ntfsundelete is in debian jessie... let's see if source is available
[01:45] <lotuspsychje> jim: this channel is about ubuntu here
[01:46] <jim> yep, and ubuntu is proven to be able to build from debianized sources (and vise versa)
[01:46] <semitemos> I am a camp counselor and I haven't had WiFi or a backup hdd in this setting. That's why I'm in this predicament.
[01:47] <jim> semitemos. oh, is your laptop only able to connect by wifi? how are you IRCing here?
[01:47] <lotuspsychje> jim: we dont reccomend packages on ubuntu from debian mixed up
[01:47] <semitemos> Windows has a dumb "feature" that shift dragging files onto the recycle bin deletes them without asking for confirmation. I was trying to move them into a folder
[01:48] <semitemos> I don't appreciate the blame.
[01:48] <semitemos> I am using my phone to irc
[01:48] <lotuspsychje> semitemos: please keep it ontopic here
[01:49] <tomreyn> there's ntfsundelete in the ntfs-3g package
[01:49] <tomreyn> also
[01:49] <tomreyn> !info scrounge
[01:49] <semitemos> Can I install that package from the Ubuntu live USB if I'm connected to WiFi
[01:49] <pablo-> !info
[01:50] <jim> !info ntfs-3g
[01:50] <semitemos> I don't know if photorec can filter by most recent files
[01:50] <tomreyn> !info scrounge-ntfs
[01:50] <lotuspsychje> nice find tomreyn
[01:51] <tomreyn> i dont actually know it.
[01:51] <semitemos> Cool, so I can install those two packages from the live USB and use those to undelete
[01:51] <tomreyn> yes, maybe
[01:52] <lotuspsychje> semitemos: the less you use your ssd, the more chance you find your lost data
[01:52] <tomreyn> depends much on whether they'll be able to access that windows managed partition and the data on it.
[01:52] <jim> yeah, that's why it's good that it's off/unmounted
[01:52] <tomreyn> not all ntfs variants and versions are supported
[01:53] <lotuspsychje> semitemos: if you know your different filetypes, you can scan with photorec only those?
[01:53] <tomreyn> and there's no bitlocker support in case it's encrypted
[01:53] <jim> can you boot a live cd then arrange to be able to install packages?
[01:54] <jim> you might need other storage\
[01:54] <semitemos> I don't that's the thing. I deleted almost all the files on my desktop. Some were txt some were odt some were images of all kinds, some were pdf
[01:54] <jim> or, maybe (yes friends, that's -maybe-) the package is already installed on the live cd and you just need to boot it
[01:55] <lotuspsychje> semitemos: yeah its not good to recover data on same drive that lost files
[01:55] <semitemos> I'm not trying to do that
[01:56] <jim> you say you're a camp counselor... does that mean you're at a campsite now (and so options are correspondingly limited)?
[01:56] <semitemos> I want to boot from usb, recover from SSD, recover to microsd
[01:56] <lotuspsychje> semitemos: how big is your sd?
[01:56] <semitemos> Jim it's a weekend so I'm going to drive into town and sit outside a place with free WiFi since everything is closed
[01:57] <semitemos> It's 4gb and the partition of the SSD is 128 gb or 256, I can't remember exactly
[01:57] <jim> if yes, do you have more options when you get home? (maybe you should wait until then if that's the case)
[01:58] <semitemos> I have more options at home but that's not for another week. I've got job applications to submit for the fall unfortunately.
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[01:59] <lotuspsychje> semitemos: problem is if you scan on filetypes like .jpg it will scan all sorts of windows stuff too you dont need
[01:59] <semitemos> It sounds like the ntfs- packages might have that undelete program though which sounds like a perfect fit for what I'm trying
[01:59] <jim> yeah that's what I was thinking too
[01:59] <jim> and...'
[02:00] <jim> it would make -me- feel better, if you worked on a -copy- of the ssd partition rather than the original
[02:00] <semitemos> I have access to two laptops, I was going to create the live usb with the second laptop
[02:00] <leftyfb> jim: or just mount it read-only
[02:00] <jim> yeah
[02:01] <semitemos> I would like to use a copy but I don't have space to make a copy so read only will have to be enough,...
[02:01] <jim> so mounting it readonly wouldn't write anything to the partition at all?
[02:01] <leftyfb> jim: hence read-only
[02:01] <jim> just the act of mounting it that is
[02:01] <leftyfb> semitemos: just mount it read-only
[02:05] <jim> semitemos, how large is the live cd image you're going to use?
[02:06] <semitemos> I haven't gotten to the WiFi yet so I don't know.
[02:06] <jim> ok, do you need help with that?
[02:07] <semitemos> The biggest thing I think I'll need help with is using the recovery software
[02:07] <jim> yeah, I'd have to bow out on that one, I've never done it
[02:09] <semitemos> And maybe creating the live USB to have enough space to download those extra programs
[02:10] <jim> maybe your best bet there is if the image already has those installed
[02:12] <semitemos> That would be nice
[02:12] <jim> I've heard of images where you can set up an area on another partition where you can install packages to
[02:12] <semitemos> Are there Ubuntu variants for file recovery? Or a particular one that has it pre installed
[02:13] <orangepi> hi
[02:19] <plaz9> ?
[02:19] <plaz9> /
[02:20] <lotuspsychje> can we help you plaz9
[02:20] <lotuspsychje> semitemos: we can only support ubuntu and its flavors here
[02:22] <semitemos> Are there any Ubuntu flavors for file recovery
[02:26] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | semitemos is what we have
[02:27] <semitemos> Thanks
[02:27] <semitemos> I also read that I need to have a ufei
[02:27] <semitemos> Uefi enabled USB drive to try Ubuntu
[02:28] <semitemos> What exactly is that? I'm going to try googling
[02:43] <Bashing-om> !uefi | semitemos
[02:52] <niranjan> Hi, I need help to resolve "Dummy output" issue for sound settings. It used to work perfectly fine, but I believe it broke couple updates back. Tried many internet remedies, but no luck
[02:52] <niranjan> On Ubuntu 16.04
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> !sound | niranjan start here
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> niranjan: alternate try pavucontrol, solved alot of sound issues in the past
[02:54] <niranjan> lotuspsychje: No matter what I do it always shows "Dummy output" and does not recognize my card
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> niranjan: is your card properly recognized? sudo lshw -C sound
[02:56] <niranjan> lotuspsychje: shows two devices, one from uvcvideo and other one from intel
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> niranjan: both have driver= at bottom?
[02:57] <niranjan> lotuspsychje: Output here https://pastebin.com/mw0aGQvZ
[02:58] <niranjan> lotuspsychje: Yes, they show driver
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> niranjan: yeah looks good
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> niranjan: try pavucontrol, see if you can switch sound devices there
[02:59] <niranjan> lotuspsychje: Trying now, do I need to install something new?
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> niranjan: yes pavucontrol
[02:59] <niranjan> lotuspsychje: Got it, installing and check the results
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> !info pavucontrol
[03:01] <niranjan> lotuspsychje: No luck, pavucontrol also shows only one device, dummy output
[03:02] <niranjan> lotuspsychje: If I select hardware output devices nothing shows up.
[03:02] <lotuspsychje> niranjan: ok thats weird indeed, that uvc device is your webcam?
[03:03] <niranjan> lotuspsychje: Most likely, though I'm not sure.
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> niranjan: its not external i think?
[03:04] <jim> semitemos, so the laptop has a uefi bios?
[03:04] <niranjan> lotuspsychje: It's not external, it's laptop, built in camera
[03:04] <semitemos> Thank you everyone who was helping. I'm flashing the USB now.
[03:04] <semitemos> Yes it has uefi
[03:05] <lotuspsychje> niranjan: your system up to date to latest?
[03:05] <semitemos> (next trick is getting the microsd card out of my phone and into the computer)
[03:05] <niranjan> Yes, as a matter of fact updated couple of minutes back
[03:05] <jim> semitemos, one thing you might have to do in order to boot that usb, is turn "secure boot" off in the bios settings
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> niranjan: tryed a reboot also?
[03:06] <semitemos> I'm gonna try that
[03:06] <niranjan> lotuspsychje: Yes, did reboot. I think there was a kernel update couple of weeks back and then it broke. Unfortunately don't use sound often so don't know when it broke. All I know it used to work great
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> aha, try a previous kernel boot niranjan
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[03:08] <niranjan> lotuspsychje: Will try it, I need to reboot, so will reboot and select older kernels and see what happens. Thanks for the help and BFN
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> niranjan: hope it helps
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[03:20] <niranjan> lotuspsychje: Did boot in the oldest kernel available and sound works there 4.4.0-128
[03:20] <niranjan> It seems to be low than I remember but at least getting sound now
[03:20] <lotuspsychje> niranjan: can you create a new !bug for it mate?
[03:21] <niranjan> Sure, I'll try to find in which one it exactly broke and then log a bug
[03:21] <lotuspsychje> niranjan: well your newest kernels doesnt have sound right
[03:21] <niranjan> lotuspsychje: That's right
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> niranjan: i would ubuntu-bug linux-image or so and describe your story
[03:24] <niranjan> lotuspsychje: Yes, will keep rebooting in all the kernels available and once I find where it broke, will execute the command and log the bug
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[03:24] <niranjan> lotuspsychje: Really appreciate the help, now I have something to fallback
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> niranjan: yeah you done already half the work for the devs now
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> niranjan: feel free to share bug url afterwards
[03:28] <neorpheus> is there a way to do a sort of targeted modprobe, if i just want to see what modules are loaded for a given device?
[03:30] <tomreyn> neorpheus: generally, dmesg and syslog should indicate which driver got loaded for which piece of hardware. modules loaded for PCI devices are listed by sudo lspci -k
[03:31] <neorpheus> tomreyn, thanks ill give those a shot
[03:32] <semitemos> Jim ntfsundelete found some of them but wasn't able to recover them. But at least I know what their filenames were now
[03:32] <semitemos> But fyi the program works great and is installed by default on the live usb
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[03:37] <takko> Hey all.  I'm having some issues installing LAMP along with a tutorial, can anyone help me troubleshoot? I was able to insall mysql and apache earlier and access my localhost test pages, but now I'm unable to after trying to instal ssl software
[03:38] <takko> if nothing else, is there a general best practice for the nuclear option of trying to remove all the programs I installed and starting over?
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[03:38] <pragmaticenigma> takko: there is no nuclear option, and likely your problem is simply a configuration issue
[03:39] <takko> so, say, sudo apt-get purge mysql-client mysql-server apache2 php7.0 etc isn't going to do anything?
[03:40] <jim> semitemos, good to know... sorry it didn't recover them
[03:40] <takko> I'm just very frustrated because I was successfully following an installation tutorial all morning, then after one problem started I didn't seem to be able to go back and verify that anything was working
[03:40] <pragmaticenigma> takko: it's hard to know with certainty that it will remove all the configuration files you created as a user
[03:41] <semitemos> It's ok at least I know what they were
[03:41] <semitemos> Thanks for your help jim
[03:42] <takko> pragmaticenigma: is there a log of such files?  Undoing everything in the last 12 hours would work
[03:42] <pragmaticenigma> takko: try this "sudo a2dismod ssl" then "sudo systemctl restart apache2.service"
[03:43] <pragmaticenigma> takko: you are building this in a VM or something. and at the very least, you do not have this exposed to the web right now I hope
[03:44] <takko> Not in a vm.  I'm not 'building' anything, just trying to get the software installed
[03:44] <takko> on the second command, my terminal suggested this, are they equivalent?  "service apache2 restart"
[03:45] <takko> pragmaticenigma:
[03:45] <takko> :~$ sudo systemctl restart apache2.service
[03:45] <takko> Job for apache2.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status apache2.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
[03:45] <takko> sorry for the paste, that was the output of the command you gave me.
[03:46] <pragmaticenigma> takko: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[03:46] <takko> 16.04, but it's kde neon
[03:47] <pragmaticenigma> takko: is this a new install?
[03:47] <takko> yes, just a few days ago
[03:47] <pragmaticenigma> takko: Go nuclear, format this system and use 18.04
[03:47] <takko> Why?  I don't think neon has incorporated it yet
[03:48] <pragmaticenigma> takko: neon?
[03:48] <takko> Neon is a new distro from KDE.  There's still Kubuntu, but it's an attempt to... I don't really know
[03:50] <pragmaticenigma> ugh... apache in 16.04 is highly tempormental
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[03:52] <takko> Ah, I see.
[03:52] <pragmaticenigma> takko: what tutorial were you following?
[03:52] <takko> This one : https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/install-apache-with-php-and-mysql-on-ubuntu-16-04-lamp/#-get-a-free-ssl-certificate-from-lets-encrypt
[03:52] <pragmaticenigma> takko: also, when working with building a webserver, you don't need SSL for development and testing as long as the system is not exposed to the open internet
[03:53] <pragmaticenigma> takko: yeah... never follow howtoforge
[03:53] <takko> Really?  Everything was working great until step 8/11
[03:53] <pragmaticenigma> howtoforge is a link farm
[03:54] <pragmaticenigma> takko: because your web server isn't exposed to the web, it can't verify the certificate it is trying to install
[03:54] <pragmaticenigma> which is botched
[03:54] <takko> Honestly I didn't get that impression from that tutorial at least, but any LAMP guides you'd recommend instead?
[03:54] <pragmaticenigma> I typically trust the Ubuntu community wiki's or digital ocean guides
[03:54] <pragmaticenigma> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-16-04
[03:55] <takko> Ok, but shouldn't I in theory still be able to see the apache test page by going to "localhost" in my browser
[03:56] <pragmaticenigma> takko: depending one what stage the let's encrypt package got to (which isn't recommended) it probably corrupted or left one of the config files in an unrunable state
[03:57] <pragmaticenigma> takko: if you run the commands from the "sudo systemctl restart apache2.server" from earlier, you will probably see the configuration file that is corrupted
[03:58] <takko> I think here : "Aug 04 20:57:51 kskdn apache2[5701]: apache2: Syntax error on line 219 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 29 of /etc/apache2/si"
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[04:01] <takko> Opened that file in a text editor but I don't know what the syntax error would be really..
[04:02] <takko> Hmm, line 129 is a blank line right under "ErrorLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/error.log"
[04:03] <takko> er, disregard,  129 is not 219.
[04:03] <takko> "IncludeOptional sites-enabled/*.conf" that's the line it said had a syntax error
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[04:17] <takko> pragmaticenigma: I sorted that error out, thanks for the patience, but I've got a new one...
[04:18] <pragmaticenigma> takko: ask away, if i'm unable to help, someone else will help if they can
[04:18] <takko> After running "sudo apache2ctl configtest", I get this : AH00558: apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1. Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message
[04:19] <CLAY> Hello
[04:19] <pragmaticenigma> takko: that is just a warning message you can ignore ... if you were going to bring this site up on the internet, then you would add a ServerName to your virtual host config file
[04:20] <takko> woo! ran the restart apache command and it's back, thanks
[04:21] <CL4Y> hi
[04:21] <takko> In the end, the fix I needed to apply was to put a "<" in the first line of the second file identified in that one error message...
[04:21] <takko> But honestly, that was a lucky find, because I know nothing of coding syntax lol
[04:21] <CLAY> can you help me?
[04:24] <neorpheus> well i manged to find my touch panel in dmesg but still no idea whwere to go from there as far as getting it recognized asa second pointing device rather than being rolled in with the trackpad
[04:24] <takko> pragmaticenigma: So, you were saying to skip the SSL stuff for now?  And should I uninstall Letsencrypt?
[04:25] <pragmaticenigma> takko: Yes, unless you are planning on exposing this to the web, you can skip the SSL stuff.
[04:26] <pragmaticenigma> takko: when you are ready to put this on the web, use this guide: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-secure-apache-with-let-s-encrypt-on-ubuntu-16-04
[04:26] <pragmaticenigma> for enabling ssl
[04:27] <calamari> is nvidia-384 the correct package for NVidia on 16.04, or should I be using something else? Stuck at 1024x768 (and no GLX) after today's update. I purged nvidia* and libnvidia* and reinstalled but it didn't help.
[04:28] <pragmaticenigma> calamari: while it's not encouraged, this ppa carries the latest nvidia drivers: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[04:29] <calamari> pragmaticenigma: I tried that one. It gave me 1920x1200, but it was missing libGl.so.1, so GLX still didn't work
[04:30] <calamari> it put it in some mesa directory that must not have been in the library path
[04:30] <pragmaticenigma> I'm not familiar with GLX or it's configurations... I assume need for gaming?
[04:30] <calamari> I guess I could try symlinking it, but it seems like that shouldn't be necessary
[04:30] <bobdobbs> Hi all. I'm on Ubuntu 18.04. I'm trying to install the latest stable version of wireshark. I'm following the instructions here: https://www.elinuxtutorials.com/2018/07/install-wireshark-2-6-2-on-ubuntu-18-04-lts-linuxmint/
[04:30] <calamari> needed for any kind of 3d
[04:31] <calamari> for example stellarium or even glxgears
[04:31] <bobdobbs> I install the ppa and then install wireshark. But an older version always starts up. version 2.4.2 starts instead of version 2.6.something
[04:31] <bobdobbs> What could be happening?
[04:31] <pragmaticenigma> calamari: I'm able to run the GLX test app glxgears and i'm using those drivers
[04:32] <calamari> pragmaticenigma: bummer
[04:32] <pragmaticenigma> bobdobbs: This channel only supports packages provided through the original software channels from Canonical and Ubuntu. You will need to contact the maintainer of the 3rd party ppa for assistance
[04:33] <pragmaticenigma> calamari: where should that library be located?
[04:34] <calamari> interesting... I'm seeing libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib/nvidia-384/libGL.so.1
[04:34] <calamari> so I guess it's completely custom for each driver
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> !latest | bobdobbs
[04:35] <calamari> maybe there's a way to manually add a directory to the system ld.so.conf
[04:35] <pragmaticenigma> I only have pre-install executable n /usr/lib/nvidia
[04:35] <pragmaticenigma> no -384 dir
[04:35] <calamari> yeah yours will be in mesa
[04:36] <calamari> I'm purging and installing
[04:36] <pragmaticenigma> oh! calamari: did you remove the nvidia driver before switching to the graphics drivers team source?
[04:36] <calamari> yes
[04:36] <pragmaticenigma> calamari: is one step ahead
[04:36] <calamari> purge nvidia* libnvidia*
[04:36] <lowkeycoat1> Which windows manager does/did 16.04 use?
[04:37] <pragmaticenigma> lowkeycoat1: the primary flavor of Ubuntu used Unity in 16.04
[04:37] <calamari> lowkeycoat1: you have a lot of choices. unity, mate, xfce, gnome 3, lxde...
[04:38] <pragmaticenigma> err... that's the desktop environment
[04:38] <pragmaticenigma> I'm not certain on the window compistor
[04:38] <pragmaticenigma> *compositor
[04:38] <calamari> true
[04:39] <calamari> so like lxde you'd have openbox
[04:39] <calamari> and mate uses marco
[04:41] <pragmaticenigma> lowkeycoat1: is there something that we can try and help with?
[04:41] <pragmaticenigma> lowkeycoat1: or something more specific on what you might be trying to do, to better answer your question
[04:43] <lowkeycoat1> My main use os is Ubuntu 16.04 xenial, im use to the (DE) that comes standard with that, im toying around with a different os ( its a linux flavor ) im just wanting to stick to the same.... Unless you guys would recommend a different one. But that doesn't seem like a question for this room....
[04:44] <pragmaticenigma> lowkeycoat1: unity desktop environment is specific to Ubuntu. The closest DE to Unity is GnomeShell
[04:44] <calamari> lowkeycoat1: I believe Unity development ceased after 16.04, unless someone forked it
[04:44] <pragmaticenigma> Unity and GnomeShell share many of the same libraries and layouts.
[04:45] <calamari> brb
[04:45] <pragmaticenigma> calamari: Unity has been forked and is in active development, with Canonical's blessing
[04:45] <Bashing-om> !unity
[04:46] <lowkeycoat1> Isnt ubuntu open source? Could i tweek it to be used for my project?
[04:46] <lowkeycoat1> Tweek unity..
[04:47] <pragmaticenigma> Unity is open source along with all of Ubuntu. Those are topics better suited for the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[04:47] <lopk> Hi, is it normal to have 15 gnome-shell process? (18.04)
[05:05] <durai> hi
[05:06] <raidensnake> I've finally managed to get the default ubuntu 4.15 kernel to boot but the bluetooth isn't working cause of config_rfkill_gpio isn't enabled in the kernel
[05:07] <raidensnake> any way of fixing that without messing up the kernel version?
[05:09] <lopk> Any idea where I can find the cache for spotify ? I don't have the folder in .cache..
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[05:15] <raidensnake> he was talking out of his arse "being backed" nothing was hacked
[05:18] <raidensnake> anyway I wish I could modify this kernel build without mucking up the version
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[05:29] <ravi__> hi.. i just bought a new arduino uno, and somehow managed to install arduino ide, installed oracle java (since arduino IDE does not start), installed g++ compiler
[05:30] <ravi__> then tried to run a sample program in ide and got the below error,,,
[05:30] <ravi__> error trying to exec 'cc1plus': execvp: No such file or directory
[05:30] <ravi__> i tried google, i am not getting anywhere... could anyone guide me to resolve the error
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[05:32] <EriC^^> !find cc1plus
[05:32] <EriC^^> ravi__: type on your pc, "sudo updatedb && locate cc1plus"
[05:33] <ravi__> @Eric^^ i will try
[05:37] <ravi__> @EriC^^ please find the output below
[05:37] <ravi__> /home/ravi/arduino-1.8.5/hardware/tools/avr/libexec/gcc/avr/4.9.2/cc1plus
[05:37] <ravi__> /usr/lib/gcc/i686-linux-gnu/4.8/cc1plus
[05:38] <EriC^^> ravi__: ok, is there a config or something where you can let it know where stuff is?
[05:41] <ravi__> @EriC^^ sorry, i don't know is there any config or not... I am new to Aruduino... I tried to joint on the channel #arduino, but i couldn't join...
[05:41] <linuxgecko> I've had to chroot into my 16.04, and i need to reinstall grub to the efi. what's simplest CLI way to do this? i think i also need to do a mkconfig.
[05:42] <EriC^^> linuxgecko: http://pchelp.site/topics/reinstalling-grub
[05:44] <qwebirc29865> Does anyone know when the ubuntu-server 18.04 installation applies the hostname + user account? It's my first time playing with UEFI and installing on NVMe/m.2... Installation launches nicely, goes through all steps without error, but then it boots into a ubuntu where hostname isn't set, and my user is missing. I just went through the installation process again and then alt+f2:d to the shell, I can't see any changes to /target/et
[05:45] <linuxgecko> EriC^^: thanks!  that's exactly what i was looking for.   :)
[05:45] <EriC^^> ravi__: try to register your nickname
[05:46] <EriC^^> linuxgecko: np :)
[05:47] <EriC^^> qwebirc29865: the guys in #ubuntu-server might know if nobody here does
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[05:48] <ravi__> @EriC^^ thank you...
[05:49] <qwebirc29865> Thanks, I'll join and ask in 15min if noone know in here :)
[05:53] <qwebirc36679> Hiya, recently did a fresh install of 18.04.1 and the notification panel doesn't include battery/shutter/wifi. Other programs don't seem to show either. I've googled and found a couple of supposed solutions but they didn't work. Any pointers?
[06:13] <m00n_urn> do any of the systemd folders have a example unit file which is filled in to play with?
[06:22] <guiverc_w> m00c0w_, doubt it (but have no idea), but there are examples in "example services" on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
[06:28] <mindofmateo> Hey all, I'm having trouble with my recent install of Ubuntu 18.  When I boot, I have to press e in grub and add nomodeset to the linux line in order for the graphics to load.  I've installed the graphics drivers once I've logged in, but after reboot, the same thing happens.  Any suggestions how to fix this?
[06:28] <mindofmateo> Ugh, I meant to say that it freezes/the graphics don't seem to load*
[06:29] <mindofmateo> Once I log in, it just freezes
[06:33] <BikerGuy54> can we toss questions out or is there a protocol here for ?s
[06:34] <ducasse> BikerGuy54: just ask
[06:34] <guiverc_w> BikerGuy54, only Ubuntu Support questions are allowed; that's the prime rule.  Try and keep your question to a single line, and please be patient waiting for a response (people do other things, they'll answer when & if they can)
[06:35] <BikerGuy54> ty guiverc_w
[06:36] <BikerGuy54> question I have relates fo 18.04.1 on core 2 duo hp dc7800 w/4gb 2.3Ghz cpu.. after restart from net install locks hard no keyboard or anything on reboot
[06:38] <BikerGuy54> looking for advice..install was a minimal install also
[06:40] <guiverc_w> BikerGuy54, did you verify the download of your iso (checksum etc)?  or test it (try-ubuntu) before install.  I have a dc7700 here, but haven't tried 18.04 on it..  (I would use other than gnome if I did)
[06:42] <BikerGuy54> iso was clean net install is only 52mb, install completed cleanly
[06:42] <guiverc_w> sorry you didn't have try-ubu.. my bad sorry (I forget it was minimal..)
[06:42] <BikerGuy54> i had the full dvd too, also clean
[06:43] <BikerGuy54> but it does have a broadcom wifi card in it
[06:43] <shookone> whats the problem here
[06:43] <BikerGuy54> 18.04.1 after install locks and won't start
[06:44] <mindofmateo> BikerGuy54 I'm having the same problem
[06:45] <BikerGuy54> it reaches a uid setting then grinds to a halt
[06:46] <BikerGuy54> unless its the new gnome desktop too fat for the video card
[06:46] <mindofmateo> it works for me if I add nomodeset in grub
[06:47] <BikerGuy54> if i use debian, cinnamon loves me :-)
[06:47] <guiverc_w> mindofmateo, yours is graphics; sorry I can't help with graphics..  i'm looking for a 18.04 iso to see if it boots on dc7700 but having little luck sorry.
[06:48] <BikerGuy54> guiverc_w i am on dc7800 sff
[06:48] <BikerGuy54> nice little beast
[06:49] <guiverc_w> yeah - but dc7700 sff is closest i have, but can't find a 18.04 iso anyway..
[06:49] <BikerGuy54> i am doing net install
[06:50] <guiverc_w> i realize that; but i hoped booting 18.04 on the dc7700 would provide a clue - as all i can think of is hardware, bad memory etc...
[06:51] <BikerGuy54> i'm going to go with gnome is too complex and see if kde might like me or try another desktop manager
[06:52] <BikerGuy54> maybe lubuntu or the like
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[06:54] <BikerGuy54> well back later, see what haapens..will let u know if i have any luck, guiverc_w
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[07:02] <zeekhuge__> Hi ! I recently shifted to i3mw-gaps + polybar. Yesterday I lost some of my work due to not receiving low battery notification.
[07:03] <zeekhuge__> I tried to use udev rules and although the ENV *CAPACITY* gets updated as the percentage of the battery
[07:03] <zeekhuge__> I dont think it actually is a event and that udev looks for commands for battery-capacity update even.
[07:03] <zeekhuge__> Any idea ?
[07:03] <zeekhuge__> how to get low battery notifications ?
[07:05] <zeekhuge__> Also, I dont want a script to be polling the capacity variable. It would be great instead to have a already-present daemon to do this .
[07:09] <zeekhuge__> Hi ! I recently shifted to i3mw-gaps + polybar. Yesterday I lost some of my work due to not receiving low battery notification. I tried to use udev rules and although the ENV *CAPACITY* gets updated as the percentage of the battery.
[07:09] <zeekhuge__> I dont think it actually is considered as a event by udev and that it looks for commands associated to this event. Any idea ? how to get low battery notifications ?
[07:09] <zeekhuge__> also, It would be great if I could use some existing daemon to get this done instead of polling via a script.
[07:10] <zeekhuge__> oops !
[07:18] <dev_u_random> Hello all, I just performed a minimal installation of ubuntu on my machine, and I have no window manager whatsoever. I'm pretty new to using a computer without a WM, is there a way to have "terminal tabs" so to speak, so I can have IRC open and do other things? Thanks in advance
[07:20] <ducasse> dev_u_random: you can use 'tmux' or 'screen'
[07:21] <dev_u_random> thanks, I'll read up on those!
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[07:33] <Amon-san> hello. i was wondering if any of you already were able do regularly upgrade 16.04 lts to 18.04 lts? i understand that 18.04.1 has been released but as of now i still see no new release when i "sudo do-release-upgrade". i have a server at home using ubuntu-server 16.04 lts and a desktop machine using ubuntu gnome 16.04 lts. both are up to date on all software updates
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[08:04] <Amon-san> hello. i was wondering if any of you already were able do regularly upgrade 16.04 lts to 18.04 lts? i understand that 18.04.1 has been released but as of now i still see no new release when i "sudo do-release-upgrade". i have a server at home using ubuntu-server 16.04 lts and a desktop machine using ubuntu gnome 16.04 lts. both are up to date on all software updates
[08:06] <TimeDoctor> Amon-san: try sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[08:07] <guiverc_w> Amon-san, yes I upgraded (some time ago actually) but because I used the -d flag.  The 18.04.1 release notes say ""Users of Ubuntu 16.04 will soon be offered an automatic upgrade to 18.04.1 via Update Manager." - key is soon; Canonical decide when they consider it stable enough for LTS users (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2018-July/000234.html)
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[08:27] <brainwash> zeekhuge__: best to ask in the i3 channel
[08:29] <zeekhuge__> brainwash: I looked into their forum. They didn't have any good solution. Also the problem really is the udev thing. Why is it not working? Anyway .. I have ended up using a script now. Thanks
[08:29] <brainwash> zeekhuge__: my udev solution works
[08:30] <brainwash> so, it's doable
[08:30] <brainwash> I guess that sending the notification is the problem
[08:31] <brainwash> zeekhuge__: did you verify that the event triggers a simple action like creating a file/directory?
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[09:10] <zeekhuge[m]> brainwash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5YjJW8pr5P/.
[09:10] <zeekhuge[m]> This is what I tried
[09:12] <zeekhuge[m]> brainwash: so, yes .. I tried to echo into file /to/on.on but that did not work either
[09:12] <brainwash> zeekhuge[m]: redirection is supposed to work?
[09:12] <Fox_> hi
[09:13] <Fox_> someone here who can help me with a problem i have to boot linuxmint from usb?
[09:14] <brainwash> Fox_: this isn't a linux mint support channel
[09:14] <TJ-> zeekhuge[m]:  " RUN+="sh -c '/bin/echo 1 > /tmp/on.on' "  "
[09:14] <Fox_> yea but the linux-mint help-channel has no idea, and its more a ubuntu-disto problem i think...
[09:15] <TJ-> zeekhuge[m]: udev executes the command via a fork, it doesn't shell out, so if you want to do redirection you need to start a shell and pass it a command
[09:15] <JimBuntu> zeekhuge[m], Does the '/to/' dir exist? The terminal info of the error would help
[09:15] <Fox_> i made a bootable usb with rufus from the linuxmint-19-cinnamon-64bit.iso, turned off hibernation and used acpi=off to start linuxmint, but then i just get: stdin: invalid argument
[09:15] <Fox_> this is not just with linux mint, i also tried ubuntu and kubuntu, its all the same
[09:15] <zeekhuge[m]> brainwash : Also, when I tried using 'udevest test -a change <path to device> '   it kind of issued a dry-run and clearly output that the echo was executed.
[09:15] <zeekhuge[m]> TJ-: okay .. trying now.
[09:16] <JimBuntu> !cookie | TJ - I see Tj is on the task, you don't need me :-)
[09:16] <TJ-> Fox_: turning off ACPI these days is usually the worst thing you can do
[09:16] <brainwash> Fox_: which release of ubuntu?
[09:17] <TJ-> JimBuntu: that's a good point though! I missed that, or rather, made the assumption it does... and assumption is dangerous!
[09:17] <Fox_> ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[09:18] <Fox_> i was just disabling it because it wouldnt get any further, i will enable it later on
[09:18] <Fox_> the main problem is that no matter what i do, i always get stdin: invalid argument
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[09:20] <TJ-> Fox_: some background to help understand the error. It comes from a script in the initram file-system (initrd.img file)
[09:21] <TJ-> Fox_: does this "rufus" program rewrite the initrd.img? I'm not familiar with it? The installer ISO should be written directly to the USB device without anything else
[09:21] <Fox_> https://rufus.akeo.ie/
[09:21] <Fox_> it was always reliable for me
[09:22] <Fox_> with kbuntu i think i was also getting something like this: unable to open '/dev/sda' etc.
[09:23] <hrz> hello
[09:23] <Fox_> i dont think that rufus rewrite the initrd.img
[09:24] <TJ-> Fox_: is this a new PC? what make/model?
[09:24] <Fox_> ASUS Z170-WS
[09:24] <TJ-> Fox_: I'm wondering if it's got an nvme drive that the kernel doesn't have a driver for
[09:24] <Fox_> not that new, but not that old
[09:24] <Fox_> it have a nvme drive
[09:24] <zeekhuge[m]> damn ! That works ! Thanks TJ-  ! :D
[09:24] <zeekhuge[m]> Just to understand it, what do you mean by 'via a fork' ?
[09:25] <TJ-> Fox_: so, it's an old system, I see
[09:25] <Fox_> but does this matter? because is was not installing anything, just starting from the usb
[09:25] <TJ-> zeekhuge[m]: internally, there's a function provided by the GNU C library called fork() which programs use to execute other programs
[09:26] <TJ-> Fox_: I'm not sure, for the NVME, unlikely, but it could be the PC firmware is messing up the order of the boot devices, which is confusing Linux
[09:26] <beta4> hi
[09:26] <beta4> anyone experiencing kernel panics with i915 driver on Core i7-8750h?
[09:27] <TJ-> Fox_: what Iv'e just described was quite a problem for a while a few years ago, so much so I wrote a workaround patch for syslinux/isolinux to help avoid it
[09:27] <Fox_> okay
[09:27] <TJ-> Fox_: when you get the error does the system eventually drop to an "initramfs" shell command line?
[09:29] <Fox_> dont really know what that means, but i get an infinite loading-screen, when i press ESC i get to the command line
[09:32] <TJ-> Fox_: right, and does the command-line start with the text "(initramfs)" ?
[09:32] <Fox_> no
[09:33] <TJ-> Fox_: is this happening on the PC you are chatting from, or another PC?
[09:33] <zeekhuge[m]> TJ-: okay, so I had to start the shell only because I was redirecting. For example a '/use/bin/touch file' would have worked even without the shell.
[09:33] <TJ-> Fox_: does the command-line you get start with # or $ ?
[09:33] <Fox_> with im chatting from
[09:33] <TJ-> Fox_: OK, so you can't both be chatting to us AND testing various boot options at the same time?
[09:34] <TJ-> zeekhuge[m]: you've got it :)
[09:34] <zeekhuge[m]> TJ-: and I guess notify-send is a GUI based nad must be needing some more envs to work. Right ?
[09:34] <Fox_> yes i have to shutdown to chat. its neither starting with # or $
[09:34] <Fox_> i mean i have to shutdown to test ^^
[09:34] <JimBuntu> zeekhuge[m], yes, it's GUI based
[09:35] <TJ-> zeekhuge[m]: that possibly, but also remember udev runs as 'root' whereas you want the message sent to the logged in GUI user. That might be a problem. policykit and/or apparmor might block that. Check the syslog or auth.log for clues
[09:35] <Fox_> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fcXl49BOK4bgvQwx-FU57s6BJ6BEWi-w
[09:35] <Fox_> thats what it was looking like when i was booting kubuntu
[09:35] <Fox_> with linux-mint i just get stdin: invalid argument
[09:35] <TJ-> Fox_: If it starts with a # or $ that tells us Linux booted correctly, it didn't get stuck in the initramfs. What seems to have happened is the init system failed to start though, which might indicate the live filesystem squashfs file is corrupted.
[09:36] <TJ-> Fox_: when the installer boots there is a menu item to Check CD image (or some such text) - have you done that?
[09:36] <Fox_> no i dont think so
[09:37] <TJ-> Fox_: I'd highly recommend doing the Check operation first just in case, even though you've had it boot OK on other PCs
[09:37] <zeekhuge[m]> Since you guys are here, one more question. How do I stop using notify-send and use dunst instead ? I tried to look into systemctl  and 'sudo service' but their was no service named 'notify-osd' , so who is starting 'notify-osd' and how do I disable it ?
[09:38] <TJ-> Fox_: I can't see whatever it is you linked to because it require me to log-in
[09:39] <zeekhuge[m]> Maybe it's a part of freedesktop and I'll have to use gsettings ?
[09:39] <Fox_> https://imgur.com/a/4pnncoN
[09:39] <Fox_> how about this?
[09:39] <brainwash> zeekhuge[m]: notify-send is just a wrapper around a dbus command I think. it sends a notification to the notification daemon.
[09:39] <TJ-> zeekhuge[m]: it's started bia DBUS from /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service.notify-osd
[09:40] <TJ-> Fox_: that's much more helpful :)
[09:40] <Fox_> great
[09:42] <TJ-> Fox_: the "unable to open" messages for sda sdb and dm-0 are informative, and before that we see sde was found. That infers there are 5 storage devices on that system. Are there some USB storage devices attached as well as its internal storage?
[09:42] <Fox_> no just the boot-usb
[09:42] <Fox_> there is a usb-device for the mouse bluetooth receiver
[09:43] <TJ-> Fox_: no, the sde infers there must have been found by the kernel sda sdb sdc sdd sde (sd == SCSI Device )
[09:43] <TJ-> Fox_: does the PC have a memory-card slots ?
[09:44] <Fox_> no
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[09:47] <Fox_> is had previously 2 HDD's in RAID 1, but i removed them and turned the mode from RAID back to AHCI, as for now i have 1 NVME M.2 ssd and 1 normal SATA ssd and 1 normal SATA HDD
[09:47] <TJ-> Fox_: OK, just looked at the specs for that motherboard to get a better idea
[09:47] <Fox_> ok
[09:48] <TJ-> Fox_: so three storage devices, which we might expect as /dev/nvmen0 /dev/sda /dev/sdb
[09:48] <Fox_> yes i think so
[09:48] <mahdi> how can i solve this problem ?
[09:48] <mahdi> aplay: device_list:270: no soundcards found...
[09:49] <TJ-> Fox_: what I *think* is happening is the drive detection is seeing multiple nodes for single drives - lets imagine that RAID setting is faulty, the mobo might make each SATA disk look like 2 say sda=sdc sdb=sdd and sde == NVME (just my hypothesis)
[09:49] <TJ-> Fox_: in that situation it's not difficult to imagine the system getting rather confused
[09:50] <TJ-> Fox_: what OS are you currently chatting from? Is it Windows?
[09:50] <Fox_> Windows 10
[09:50] <Fox_> but what have this to do with booting from the usb? this should also work if there not even 1 drive installed or?
[09:51] <TJ-> Fox_: hmmm, I was wondering if you could try installing Ubuntu into a VirtualBox virtual machine on Windows, to prove the installer is good and can succeed. Then, I wonder if it is possible to map 1 or more of those storage devices directly into the virtual machine and install that way
[09:51] <TJ-> Fox_: you're saying you hit this error even if all thos storage devices are removed?
[09:52] <pj5> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[09:52] <pj5> "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
[09:52] <pj5> Handshake cryptocurrency scam is operated by Andrew Lee (276-88-0536), the fraudster in chief at Private Internet Access which now owns Freenode
[09:52] <Fox_> no, i just think that it should work even without drives, but i have not tested it. I have installed ubuntu, kubuntu and mint in a virtual machine, but from the iso not from the usb, that was successfull
[09:53] <TJ-> Fox_: booting from USB, DVD, network - makes no difference. My point is that the OS, early in boot, is getting confused about the storage devices (sde tells me that, we shouldn't expect more than sdc)
[09:53] <Fox_> okay
[09:53] <TJ-> Fox_: I'd double-check the firmware setup and those RAID options, ensure it is definitely AHCI for all the disk controllers
[09:54] <TJ-> Fox_: RAID is an obvious way this might happen - even though you're sure you've set it to AHCI
[09:55] <MrTijn> Hi #ubuntu, quick (possible dumb) question - I thought that once 18.04.1 was out it would be possible to upgrade from 16.04 using do-release-upgrade, but it still says "No new release found" on my 16.04 machines. Am I too impatient to expect that the upgrade is out yet?
[09:56] <Fox_> okay i will install ubuntu-18.04 back to the usb, check my bios settings, and try the find the "Check CD Image" and will come back after this
[10:00] <TJ-> Fox_: I've been doing some reading... ensure also Legagy USB support is enabled and if its there, USB Mass Storage --- sometimes those can help in situations like this. The problem seems to be the installer OS cannot find the USB it is starting from
[10:01] <TJ-> Fox_: I cannot find any similar bug reports about that motherboard, for Ubuntu or Linux in general
[10:01] <TJ-> Fox_: so I suspect it is caused by something specific to your system or its configuration
[10:02] <TJ-> MrTijn: impatient :) the meta-release-lts files haven't been amended as yet
[10:02] <MrTijn> I thought so, thanks for confirming it TJ- :)
[10:02] <MrTijn> Any idea when it will be out?
[10:05] <TJ-> MrTijn: "soon" :)
[10:05] <Guest49452> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[10:05] <Guest49452> "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
[10:05] <jarnos> Hello. Suspend to RAM does not work on 16.04 HWE kernel on my system. Could it be that I did not update Xorg to HWE? I am using nouveau driver.
[10:05] <Guest49452> Handshake cryptocurrency scam is operated by Andrew Lee (276-88-0536), the fraudster in chief at Private Internet Access which now owns Freenode
[10:07] <beta4> anyone experiencing kernel panics with i915 driver on Core i7-8750h?
[10:07] <MrTijn> TJ-: ah alright. thanks
[10:07] <nug700> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[10:07] <beta4> it happens at boot and the pc is not usable
[10:07] <nug700> "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
[10:08] <nug700> Handshake cryptocurrency scam is operated by Andrew Lee (276-88-0536), the fraudster in chief at Private Internet Access which now owns Freenode
[10:16] <Fox_> im back
[10:17] <Fox_> im 99,99% sure that i'm in AHCI mode. i also found a "Check disk for defects" when i run this, it gets me to the same page like when i start ubuntu
[10:17] <Fox_> https://imgur.com/a/q33cZrh
[10:17] <Fox_> here some pics
[10:19] <Fox_> when i start "Try ubuntu..." i get this ubuntu loading screen, then i press ESC and then i get this shell
[10:19] <Fox_> i was running now without acpi=off
[10:21] <tomreyn> Fox_: you need a firmware update
[10:23] <tomreyn> Fox_: if you don't know how to get or apply it, run the installer / live cd again, then go online, open a terminal window and run: sudo dmidecode --type bios --type baseboard --type system | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:24] <tomreyn> this should return a link you can post here.
[10:25] <Fox_> how do i go online and open a terminal window?
[10:25] <tomreyn> oh wait, you're trying to setup linux mint? then i cant help.
[10:25] <Fox_> im trying to install any ubuntu distro, at the moment none of them work
[10:26] <Fox_> on the moment i try ubuntu, so that you guys can help me better ;)
[10:26] <tomreyn> so what are you trying to install currently?
[10:26] <tomreyn> oh you just said, sorry
[10:27] <tomreyn> you can open a temrinal by clicking on the top left icon and typing 'terminal'
[10:27] <Fox_> my current system is windows 10
[10:28] <Fox_> but i have a ubuntu sub-system if that helps
[10:28] <tomreyn> do you have an ubuntu 18.04 installer / live usb stick, yet?
[10:28] <Fox_> yes
[10:28] <tomreyn> do you know the exact computer model you have there?
[10:29] <Fox_> my mobo is a ASUS Z170-WS
[10:29] <Fox_> with the current BIOS-Version: American Megatrends Inc. 0801, 07.09.2016 that i get from SYSTEMINFO command
[10:29] <tomreyn> good. the 18.04 installer / live usb stick you have there, is it ubuntu 189.04.0 or 18.04.1 (just released a few days ago)?
[10:30] <Fox_> ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[10:30] <Fox_> from that iso i created the usb-stick
[10:30] <guest-kduwap> fc
[10:30] <tomreyn> do you have an unlimited data plan, would you mind downloading an updated installer image?
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> guest-kduwap: can we help you?
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> not
[10:31] <Fox_> i dont mind
[10:31] <tomreyn> Fox_: then i suggest you download 18.04.1.
[10:32] <tomreyn> Fox_: and write it to the usb
[10:32] <tomreyn> http://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04/ubuntu-18.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[10:33] <Fox_> i'm downloading...
[10:33] <Fox_> but i don't think that this will be the solution
[10:34] <Fox_> i'm a bit skeptical
[10:34] <tomreyn> Fox_: the latest firmware is available here: https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/Z170-WS/HelpDesk_BIOS/
[10:35] <Fox_> i'm a bit careful when updating the BIOS, but seems a good idea
[10:38] <egos5> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[10:38] <egos5> "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
[10:38] <tomreyn> Fox_: this one should contain a critical security fix for the 'meldown' and 'spectre' vulnerabilities (although we can't be sure it does since it doesn't say so).
[10:39] <Fox_> yea i was thinking the same
[10:39] <Fox_> i will try updating
[10:40] <tomreyn> unfortunately the 'more information' link appears to be unavailable
[10:41] <Fox_> yes, i hate when that happens
[10:42] <ws2k3> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[10:43] <Fox_> alright download is finished, i flash my BIOS now, and try with the new ubuntu version, and report back whem i'm done. Thanks for now.
[10:44] <tomreyn> Fox_: good luck
[10:45] <Fox_> thanks
[10:45] <ellyacht> can you install Ubuntu desktop UEFI?
[10:45] <beta4> tried i915.alpha_support=1 but no change, still kernel panic at boot.
[10:45] <beta4> any suggestions?
[10:45] <tomreyn> ellyacht: you can install an ubuntu desktop on an uefi system, yes.
[10:46] <tomreyn> beta4: can you (did you?) show the kernel panic as a screenshot?
[10:46] <tomreyn> what are you running there?
[10:46] <beta4> screen is black, fan go full speed
[10:46] <beta4> ctrl-alt-f1 does nothing
[10:47] <beta4> running kubuntu 18.04 on i7-8750h (UHD graphics 630)
[10:47] <ellyacht> tomreyn: so I can leave trusted computing and secure boot all in tact and boot up a USB stick with Ubuntu on it?
[10:47] <tomreyn> beta4: 18.04(.0) or 18.04.1 ?
[10:48] <ellyacht> you tell me
[10:48] <sdgn> Hey
[10:48] <beta4> 18.04.1
[10:48] <tomreyn> beta4: is this fully installed on disk, yet, or are you trying to start the installer when this happens?
[10:49] <beta4> installer worked ("install kubuntu") if I select "try kubuntu" same kernel panic
[10:49] <ellyacht> tomreyn: if I am installing on a 1TB hard drive that I plan on splitting in half, will Ubuntu run alongside windows 10 pro and or windows 7 pro
[10:49] <beta4> can only boot in recovery mode at 800x600
[10:49] <ellyacht> sorry I will be more patient
[10:49] <beta4> did apt update, dist-upgrade, whatever
[10:50] <tomreyn> ellyacht: i'm not sure what you mean by 'leave trusted computing [..] intact', but yes, you can install / boot with secure boot enabled (I would suggest you disable it, but that's up to you).
[10:50] <beta4> no change, i915 driver panics at boot
 so, he wants the win. so we're just gonna get lunch or something, then hes gonna push me to the ground and tap my ass with his foot so he can claim he "kicked my ass" tbh im going along with it becase I dont wanna lose any teeth
[10:51] <tomreyn> beta4: what is your hardware? do you know the exact model number?
[10:51] <ellyacht> tomreyn: I don't mind disabling it however, if I'm not sure about driver signature surveying authenticity, is there a way I can verify my download
[10:52] <tomreyn> !md5sum | ellyacht
[10:52] <beta4> ASUS vivobook pro N580GD
[10:52] <tomreyn> ellyacht: once ubuntu is installed and running, it verifies every single package download and installation you do through apt
[10:53] <tomreyn> using cryptographic signatures
[10:53] <beta4> with nvidia drivers boots ok, but draws 30W and battery lasts 1 hour.
[10:53] <beta4> bumblebee causes same kernel panic as not having nvidia drivers
[10:53] <beta4> every time i915 comes into play, I get a panic at boot
[10:53] <ellyacht> tomreyn: kk my last.?  is if I'm installing alongside windows 10 do I want to install Ubuntu first then windows 10 or vice versa
[10:55] <tomreyn> beta4: did you update the firmware, yet? this can improve compatibility.
[10:55] <tomreyn> beta4: https://www.asus.com/Laptops/ASUS-VivoBook-Pro-15-N580GD/HelpDesk_BIOS/
[10:56] <tomreyn> !multiboot | ellyacht
[10:56] <beta4> will see if I have the latest bios
[10:56] <tomreyn> !dualboot | ellyacht
[10:58] <beta4> thanks tomreyn for the suggestion, I'll update the bios and report back if it fixed the isse
[10:59] <ellyacht> kk ty
[10:59] <tomreyn> beta4: cool, good luck
[11:00] <ellyacht> you don't by chance know anything about Android?
[11:00] <ellyacht> how do I mount system as rw if 'mount /system - rw - r' returns 'bad /etc/fstab: no such file or directory
[11:01] <tomreyn> beta4: if it still happens then, please try to take a screen shot (using a smartphone or camera) of the kernel panic and post it online (e.g. on imgur.com)
[11:01] <tomreyn> ellyacht: we only support ubuntu here
[11:03] <Fox_> im back
[11:04] <Fox_> the BIOS update was successful. I tried to start the "Try ubuntu..." now all errors are gone but still the stdin: invalid argument
[11:04] <Fox_> https://imgur.com/a/3VRRpgt
[11:04] <nicolas> ckkgtyrttt
[11:05] <nicolas> sos
[11:05] <nicolas> gato
[11:07] <tomreyn> Fox_: this may be the result of an incomplete installer image download or an improperly written usb stick
[11:07] <tomreyn> Fox_: do you still have the iso file available you downloaded?
[11:07] <Fox_> yes
[11:07] <Fox_> i'm using rufus to install it to the usb
[11:07] <tomreyn> lets make sure it matches its checksum
[11:08] <tomreyn> Fox_: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-how-to-verify-ubuntu
[11:08] <nicolas> sos
[11:09] <tomreyn> Fox_: actually this https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-ubuntu-on-windows
[11:09] <Fox_> ill try
[11:10] <tomreyn> well, you'll need both :)
[11:11] <tomreyn> i think you said you already have ubuntu bash on windows, though
[11:16] <atralheaven> Hi, I have a laptop with Nvidia 1060 and I use a monitor beside the laptop screen, connected to laptop with HDMI port. I used nvidia driver and everything was OK.
[11:16] <Fox_> tomreyn: well this just checks if the ISO is OK
[11:16] <Fox_> and it is OK
[11:17] <tomreyn> Fox_: it confirm that the downloaded iso file is authentic, correct.
[11:17] <tomreyn> Fox_: the second thing to do there is to hold down the shift key while booting the installer and select the 'check disc for defects' option
[11:18] <Fox_> the last time, when i was doing this, i would just get to the same shell like a normal start
[11:18] <Fox_> so i get the stdin: Invalid argument
[11:19] <tomreyn> hmm, let me try this in a VM first then
[11:19] <atralheaven> last night I switched to xorg, and there was some packages to "autoremove", and I removed them. today I connected the monitor to the laptop and system doesn't recognize it anymore, I switched back to nvidia driver and installed the nvidia pakcages for it, now the main screen hangs before the login screen, but on the monitor I can work with Ubuntu just fine.
[11:21] <tomreyn> Fox_: it works in my VM. try hitting shift a couple times as you boot, this should bring up the menu
[11:22] <Fox_> sorry, i did not mean the menu, i can get to the menu, but when i start the "check disc for defects" i will get to the same shell
[11:22] <tomreyn> Fox_: this is the menu you'd try to get to http://i.imgur.com/cSzWSXw.png
[11:22] <atralheaven> if I switch back to xorg, I can have both displays but with super low resulotion, and if I use nvidia, only monitor display works and laptop display is frozen before the login screen comes
[11:23] <Fox_> well mine looks a bit more black
[11:23] <Fox_> https://imgur.com/a/q33cZrh
[11:23] <Fox_> 4th picture
[11:23] <tomreyn> Fox_: oh i see. then i suggest you try to just write the iso to usb again, maybe using a different utility and usb storage this time, if available.
[11:24] <tomreyn> that's fine, you got the uefi variant, mine's for legacy bios
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> atralheaven: wich nvidia driver was you on?
[11:25] <Fox_> well the ubuntu-help suggested rufus, which i was using
[11:25] <tomreyn> Fox_: try etcher.io this time
[11:25] <tomreyn> https://etcher.io/
[11:26] <Fox_> okay
[11:26] <Toyo> Is there a date when ubuntu officially offers the upgrade option from 16.04 to 18.04 when lts upgrade is activated?
[11:26] <tomreyn> Toyo: no, it's "when it's done".
[11:27] <Fox_> alright i reboot
[11:28] <tomreyn> Toyo: it is a bit longer than i had personally anticipated now, i assume there is some holdup. i prefer a well tested upgrade over a quick and sirty solution, though, so don't mind it.
[11:28] <dc-> Does anyone know if any provider offers free Ubuntu servers for practicing?
[11:29] <tomreyn> dc-: the large cloud providers offer this for a limited time. AWS, Azure and Google clouds.
[11:30] <tomreyn> dc-: if your local computer is 'fast' enough you can also run a VM on it.
[11:30] <matlock> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[11:30] <Toyo> okay i was also expecting the upgrade option would be there around end of July, but seems i have to wait
[11:30] <dc-> I am on a laptop that's quite limited
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> hey ioria
[11:31] <antjose> Hi can i use Bleachbit as root? Sorry for my bd English
[11:31] <dc-> Will check out Azure, I actually am running Amazon but I was hoping to find something that supports reverse DNS
[11:31] <ioria> lotuspsychje, Helloooo
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> antjose: yes, if you know what your doing
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> antjose: dont just enable all and scan, if you dont know what it does ok?
[11:32] <antjose> but it's dangereus?
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> antjose: it 'could' wipe things you dont really expected yes
[11:32] <antjose> ok, thanks
[11:33] <beta4> tomreyn: bios update did not fix the bug :(
[11:33] <beta4> here's a screenshot of what I see last before fans go full speed
[11:33] <beta4> https://imgur.com/a/2wniOGv
[11:33] <atralheaven> lotuspsychje: nvidia-driver-390
[11:34] <dc-> I'd like to backup my laptop's Ubuntu user settings and personal files in case the laptop dies or I have to reinstall Ubuntu. Would it be sufficient if I backed up my /home -directory?
[11:34] <beta4> (this is without the splash option, otherwise I see a black screen)
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> atralheaven: we hear good things about nvidia-390.77
[11:35] <tomreyn> beta4: is disabling secure boot an option for you?
[11:35] <swlk> isn't 18.04.1 released yet? why can't I upgrade my 16.04 to it?
[11:36] <atralheaven> lotuspsychje: It would be nice if I can use Nvidia GPU for ML and use Intel graphics for other works, but now getting both displays to work is more important
[11:36] <beta4> already disabled secure boot
[11:37] <atralheaven> lotuspsychje: it was working fine, until I removed it and installed it again... idk what have went wrong
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> atralheaven: try 390.77 or 396.45 from nvidia or ubuntu graphics ppa
[11:37] <ioria> swlk, idk for sure, but maybe the LTS URL in   /etc/update-manager/meta-release  has not been updated ...
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> swlk ioria yeah still work in progress so it seems
[11:38] <tomreyn> beta4: the "PKCS#7 signature not signed with a trusted key" messages suggest that secure boot is still enabled.
[11:39] <ioria> atralheaven, using nouveau atm ?
[11:39] <swlk> "Upgrades from 16.04 LTS will not be enabled until a few days after 18.04.1's release expected in early August." .... a few days
[11:40] <beta4> I had it enabled when kubuntu was installed, but now I disabled it in bios. I'm sure because I disabled it again after flashing bios
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> swlk: sorry for the delay mate, but better a working upgrade without bugs right?
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> swlk: the devs have a reason for this, so let them do their jobs
[11:41] <atralheaven> ioria: I have nouvea installed, the graphic is nvidia , 1060
[11:41] <ioria> atralheaven, lsmod | grep nouveau
[11:41] <swlk> lotuspsychje: nah, for sure we prefer a working upgrade
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> swlk: ok tnx you understand
[11:42] <tomreyn> beta4: i see. so because it was enabled when you installed ubuntu, the installer installed a kernel image which is secure boot signed. maybe you will be able to boot fine if you re-enable secureboot now. alternatively, keep it disabled and reinstall.
[11:42] <swlk> I do, but I hope it comes soon, otherwise I would have gone through the process of upgrading to non LTS first and then to a new LTS ;-)
[11:42] <gamma14> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[11:42] <TJ-> beta4: tomreyn I suspect what is happening is that although SecureBoot is disabled, the grub/kernel being booted are the -signed- versions, so for some out-of-tree modules that PKCS error is reported
[11:42] <apollo1323> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[11:43] <tomreyn> TJ-: yes, nvidia probably
[11:43] <atralheaven> ioria: nothing's there, but I have nvidia and nvidia_uvm on that list
[11:43] <tomreyn> TJ-: would you have a better suggestion than mine about reinstalling?
[11:44] <ioria> atralheaven, so you're not using nouveau now:   sudo lshw -C | pastebinit
[11:44] <TJ-> tomreyn: Either enable SecureBoot or better still (if the PC needs out-of-tree drivers) replace GRUB/linux-image with unsigned versions
[11:45] <tomreyn> TJ-: well, this can involve chrooting from live cd, which would probably take longer than a reboot
[11:45] <tomreyn> *reinstall
[11:45] <ioria> atralheaven, sorry,   sudo lshw -C  Video | pastebinit
[11:46] <TJ-> beta4: tomreyn I'd suggest first listing the signed packages installed with "apt list --installed *signed*" - I'd expect shim-signed, grub-efi-x86_64-signed. Also, linux-image-$VERSION-$FLAVOUR will be signed by default, so might want to install the -unsigned- variations of those
[11:47] <tomreyn> TJ-: so you suspect a recovery boot would work? did you see https://i.imgur.com/15dbx8h.jpg ?
[11:47] <TJ-> beta4: tomreyn then remove the signed versions, ensure the regular packages are installed and the -unsigned- linux-image* packages, then "grub install /dev/sdX" to replace grub, and "update-grub" to be sure
[11:49] <tomreyn> beta4: well you can try and see whether a recovery boot works
[11:49] <TJ-> tomreyn: I don't see anything wrong there. cryptsetup asks for the passphrase, then finds the VG. Is it hanging after the PKCS#7 message?
[11:49] <tomreyn> TJ-: that's my understanding, yes
[11:49] <wesbl>  notification badge and progress bars are already available on Ubuntu?
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> wesbl: progress bars of what?
[11:50] <wesbl> for dash to dock, sorry
[11:50] <tomreyn> TJ-: hmm the other option is that beta4 just missed the dmcrypt-luks prompt
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> wesbl: you mean nautilus transfers progress bar?
[11:50] <TJ-> tomreyn: OK, so drop to a shell in the intramfs. use "break=init" on kernel command-line. That'll be after rootfs is unlocked and mounted but before calling /sbin/init
[11:51] <TJ-> tomreyn: no, you can see the sda5_crypt is unlocked
[11:51] <wesbl> lotuspsychje: I mean nautilus, firefox...
[11:51] <TJ-> sorry, sdsa3_crypt
 here's a screenshot of what I see last before fans go full speed
[11:51] <tomreyn> TJ-: okay, so it gets stuck there, right
[11:51] <TJ-> tomreyn: beta4 kubuntu-vg is inside the sda3_crypt, and that has been found, and its LVs found too
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> wesbl: nautilus on 18.04 has it yes
[11:52] <atralheaven> ioria: https://www.hastebin.com/raw/bosebahojo
[11:52] <TJ-> tomreyn: have you considered this might be an ACPI issue (fans!) try acpi_osi= :)
[11:52] <ioria> atralheaven, you're using nvidia ...
[11:52] <beta4> now this is even more strange, tried booting with upgraded bios and secure boot, and desktop appears
[11:52] <TJ-> tomreyn: those ACPI errors look suspiciously like it
[11:52] <tomreyn> TJ-: well... it can be an ACPI issue. feel free to guide if you have time
[11:52] <ioria> atralheaven, and not working ?
[11:52] <TJ-> tomreyn: beta4 haha! I'll leave it to you :)
[11:52] <beta4> however, mouse isn't moving, and keyboard stops functioning after a few keystrokes
[11:53] <beta4> what the f?
[11:53] <TJ-> tomreyn: beta4 I'd do as I suggested drop to shell in initramfs, manually get the correct "Windows XXXX" value from sysfs, then reboot and use the acpi_osi workaround
[11:53] <beta4> that doesn't make any sense
[11:54] <Fox_> hey guys, thanks for the help. Seems to work now, seems that the problem was the USB-stick itself... because the etcher.io software was validating the data and it failed, i tried now another stick and now it boots. in fact i am writing from ubuntu! :D
[11:54] <TJ-> tomreyn: beta4 if that boots correctly it can be added to /etc/default/grub
[11:54] <atralheaven> ioria: my laptop display doesn't work, it's frozen, but the monitor installed to the laptop works, I'm using it now. I want to have both screens working
[11:54] <ioria> atralheaven, ah, ok
[11:54] <tomreyn> Fox_: glad you got it sorted
[11:55] <wesbl> lotuspsychje: but Does it theme dependent?
[11:55] <ioria> atralheaven, so, or you try the ppa or try lightdm instead of gdm3
[11:55] <TJ-> Fox_: Yay!
[11:56] <FreeBDSM> hello
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> wesbl: no, by default on nautilus 1:3.26.3-0ubuntu4
[11:56] <Fox_> :D
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: welcome, how can we help you today?
[11:56] <TJ-> Fox_: did the "Check" report a bad image, or did you find out some other way
[11:56] <FreeBDSM> why do I get no colored text when I do `apt list --installed | less`, although I get colored text if I don't pipe to less?
[11:57] <CanopusX> I'm trying to run Kubuntu on a Dell laptop having Intel 630 + Nvidia GTX 1050. But it freezes on boot and while trying to boot into live system. Can anyone please help me?
[11:57] <FreeBDSM> do I need to tinker with LESS_COLORS envvar?
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> CanopusX: try to get in your system with a !nomodeset first
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> CanopusX: after you can enter, try to install nvidia drivers
[11:58] <TJ-> FreeBDSM: apt detects it is writing to a pipe not a tty and disabled colours
[11:58] <CanopusX> lotuspsychje: I'm on a live USB
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> CanopusX: can you F1 to see text booting where its stuck?
[11:59] <Fox_> TJ-: the software tomryn suggested to install the iso on my usb-stick, did a checksum check, and it was invalid. so i tried another usb-stick and there it the checksum was OK
[12:00] <tomreyn> ^ etcher.io (previously rufus was used)
[12:00] <Fox_> i did not even try to boot from the "invalid" usb, i booted streight from the "valid" usb, and that worked
[12:00] <CanopusX> lotuspsychje: It doesn't show any response. I think the problem happens when the system's trying to execute startx. It happened in Manjaro too.
[12:00] <Fox_> there where 2 lines stdin: Invalid argument, but then it started
[12:01] <CanopusX> lotuspsychje: I'm telling this because the freezing happens only when I choose "Try before installing", but not when executing the installer.
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> CanopusX: startx isnt the way to go anymore
[12:03] <beta4> tomreyn: currently reinstalling kubuntu with secure boot disabled. The "keyboard stops working after few keystrokes" happened also in grub (!)
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | CanopusX start here
[12:04] <alpha_Aquilae> !paste
[12:04] <alpha_Aquilae> !pasteinit
[12:05] <alpha_Aquilae> !pastebinit
[12:07] <^peter^> alpha_Aquilae  So now you have it all in two languages.
[12:10] <tomreyn> beta4: :-/ looks like you got a terrible firmware quality there.
[12:10] <Guest59412> Hey guys, I am having an issue with my IPOD not able to sync with most media players. Any suggestions/
[12:11] <possiblyanowl> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[12:12] <tomreyn> beta4: i guess you could try downgrading the firmware to the last but one version then. might help, might not.
[12:13] <jim11> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[12:15] <sidy73> leavin
[12:28] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:30] <sdgn> hey
[12:54] <sins-> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[12:58] <srirachi> hey there, I have a PocketWifi device but somehow I cannot configure it through USB, can anyone help me out setting up the right drivers or ?
[13:00] <JimBuntu> srirachi, "PocketWifi" as in a WiFi hotspot? What exact model/make?
[13:00] <JimBuntu> srirachi, Also, what version of Ubuntu?
[13:00] <srirachi> JimBuntu: thanks for the quick reply, PocketWifi as a device that lets me wifi hotspot wherever I am in the world kind of, I'll have to look up the model
[13:00] <srirachi> JimBuntu: I am using the latest version of ubuntu 18.04
[13:01] <srirachi> JimBuntu: is there a way to maybe enumerate the device through the USB port?
[13:02] <JimBuntu> srirachi, I don't use 18.04 :-( Unsure how much of a difference it will make though
[13:02] <JimBuntu> srirachi, What do you see via 'dmesg' in regards to the USB device?
[13:02] <jackmcbarn10> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[13:02] <srirachi> JimBuntu: brand is Pokefi
[13:02] <dc-> wtf is going on here
[13:02] <dc-> with the spam
[13:03] <sdgn> not sure
[13:03] <JimBuntu> dc-, Spam attack. They hope to fool as many people as possible... it's somewhat a joke though, no one is as dumb as the spammers are.
[13:04] <sdgn> except breaking balls?
[13:04] <dc-> yeah, quite wide-spread though
[13:04] <dc-> see it in multiple channels
[13:04] <JimBuntu> dc-, yeah, it's across multiple IRC networks.... they are showing how desperate they are
[13:04] <JimBuntu> srirachi, Sorry to say that I have no experience with this device :-(
[13:05] <JimBuntu> Anyone experienced with setting up a PokeFi device with 18.04 for srirachi ? OR  similar>
[13:06] <JimBuntu> srirachi, having some dmesg info ready for pastebin would be helpful, as well as a paste of 'lsmod'
[13:07] <arip> hi
[13:09] <karthik17> Hi
[13:09] <arip> i have a problem with tunnel in autostart, problem description: https://pastebin.com/1CkvZy0t
[13:10] <someone_> Hi , How can I return to previous version of a package after update it ?
[13:12] <conno> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[13:12] <sdgn> cmon dude get the fuck out of here
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> sdgn: please remain calm & polite, these are bots
[13:15] <someone_> Why the operator do not kick those bots ?
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> someone_: its being worked on already
[13:16] <BluesKaj> they come from different IPs and networks, so they are difficult to stop
[13:16] <arip> anyone can help me?
[13:16] <BluesKaj> arip, ask your question
[13:16] <someone_> OK anyone knows how can I return to previous version of a package after update it ?
[13:16] <arip> i have a problem with tunnel in autostart, problem description: https://pastebin.com/1CkvZy0t . after reboot i see in log:  An error occurred creating a tunnel to host. RC was 127 why?
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> someone_: no, downgrade isnt possible
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> someone_: we advice to use package versions, meant for your specific ubuntu version
[13:17] <sdgn> I'm not sure here but, there is not any anti-spam protection or something used here ?
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> someone_: wich package are you trying on wich ubuntu
[13:18] <sdgn> for that kind of situation.
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> sdgn: yes, they are killed by join
[13:18] <sdgn> ok, but some still manage to go through it.
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> sdgn: lets the ops do their job ok, its being handled by freenode
[13:19] <sdgn> yes I know, just being curious.
[13:20] <sdgn> I don't know much about this, so it's still interesting to ask and read the anwsers of people who know,
[13:20] <worstje> sdgn: It's the nature of the protocol. They can't recognise the spammers until they post, and the moment they do, they get banned. But with botnets fueling it, there's simply an unending amount of addresses they can spam from. It is the age-old problem of botnets, period.
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> sdgn: more a topic for #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:20] <amagard> Hi folks. Anyone any hint why Flash Plyaer won't work on my ubuntu 18.04, neither in Firefox nor Chromium web browser ?
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> amagard: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> amagard: for chromium try pepperflashplugin
[13:21] <Guest86480> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[13:21] <amagard> Just did this, w/o success: sudo apt install adobe-flashplugin browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
[13:22] <sdgn> @worstje yep what I was thinking. Any idea why this spam ?
[13:22] <sdgn> @lotusspsychje it's true yes
[13:22] <worstje> sdgn: Money, as always. But let's clear this channel of the offtopic chatter :)
[13:22] <someone_> lotuspsychje I'm using kubuntu 16.04 and I have installed libxcb and other packages from ~oibaf ppa but  that caused some problems in my system so I have to return to previous version I was able to did that with other packages by download them form the internet then install them manually but libxcb is big more than10 packages, so install all manually is hard .
[13:23] <sdgn> @worstje ok
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> someone_: we cant support external ppa's here mate, try to revert your system to vanilla sources.list first
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | someone_
[13:24] <someone_> lotuspsychje Thank you.
[13:26] <depleted> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[13:26] <depleted> "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
[13:27] <sdgn> ubuntu 18.04 use more RAM than 12.04, is this normal ? I had 12.04 with awesome wm, no compositor I was around 200 to 300mb, now with 18.04 I am around 600 to 700mb.
[13:27] <amagard> ubuntu-restricted-extras did not do the trick. Seems like Firefox tries to start Flash Player, but then always crashes.
[13:28] <sdgn> I'am talking idle
[13:28] <sdgn> I mean, I see around 15 gnome-shell process
[13:28] <sdgn> too
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> amagard: perhaps its your website thats using too old protocol?
[13:31] <lbft8> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> amagard: also flash is pretty dead for long time too..use html5 instead
[13:32] <amagard> Hmmm. Those web sites work for me on Windows.
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> amagard: windows flash gets still updates
[13:32] <amagard> Flash is dead ? OK, I let Facebook Game Developers know.
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> amagard: this is nothing new..
[13:35] <amagard> I heard about Flash going away. But many sites still use it. Those sites simply won't work on ubuntu.
[13:35] <pragmaticenigma> !ot | amagard
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> amagard: wich site are you talking about? perhaps i can test one?
[13:36] <amagard> Anyhow: browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash broken https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freshplayerplugin/+bug/1778041
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> amagard: its also a security risk for both users and websites to still use it..
[13:37] <amagard> Sorry, I thought this is ubuntu related. Since those sites work fine on Windows. Nevertheless, has been nice talking to you.
[13:58] <someone_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxcb/1.11.1-1ubuntu1 << How can I build this manually, I have downloaded the package and I have run ./configure and all dependencies are installed, now what ?
[13:59] <beta4> installed nvidia-drivers-390 and did a sudo prime-select-intel, now i915 driver can load a desktop, but then panics
[13:59] <beta4> however, this time I've got the panic caught on the log
[14:00] <beta4> @tomreyn, @TJ-, here's the panic https://pastebin.com/raw/S4QJdK7e
[14:00] <raspimate_> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[14:03] <pragmaticenigma> someone_: As you have been told many times... There is NO reason to compile your own stuff. Stick to the packages in the package repositories.
[14:03] <leftyfb> someone_: why are you insistent on building packages from source all the time?
[14:07] <Shnaw23> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[14:07] <someone_> pragmaticenigma , leftyfb  I'm trying to fix problem of oibaf ppa, I want to return to the previous version, so I have to build it from the source .
[14:08] <leftyfb> someone_: no you don't
[14:09] <someone_> oibaf version caused many problem in my system.
[14:09] <leftyfb> someone_: sudo apt install ppa-purge && sudo ppa-purge ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers
[14:09] <leftyfb> someone_: you have an Intel video chipset. You have to realize "performance" isn't one of it's selling points.
[14:10] <qwebirc41818> hi, what's the easiest way to get GCC 8.2 on Ubuntu 18.04?
[14:11] <pikapika> How long is it before a new lts is good enough to use generally?
[14:11] <leftyfb> qwebirc41818: why do you think you need it?
[14:12] <qwebirc41818> it has some bug fixes I would like, i.e. for variant with warning ctor-dtor-privacy (or something like that)
[14:12] <someone_> leftyfb that command does not work, and I have installed many .deb packages manually to fix oibaf problems but I can't find libxcb-1.11.1 in deb format so I have to build it from the source
[14:13] <qwebirc41818> that bug is present in GCC 8.1 which is in ubuntu-toolchain PPA
[14:13] <leftyfb> someone_: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[14:15] <someone_> Kubuntu 16.04
[14:15] <leftyfb> qwebirc41818: fcc 8.2 was released a week ago. Almost 4 months after 18.04's release. You won't be seeing 8.2 in 18.04 and I don't know why anyone would assume that
[14:15] <leftyfb> someone_: libxcb1 1.11.1 is part of the 16.04 repos's. Just install it
[14:15] <leftyfb> someone_: define "does not work"
[14:16] <leftyfb> someone_: got an error message?
[14:17] <joepie9116> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[14:19] <someone_> leftyfb libxcb1 1.11.1 is installed but with oibaf version, I want to return to 16.04 version which is the supported one , I did that with manually many of oibaf packages by install .deb but I can't find  libxcb1-1.11.1 in .deb formate so I have to bulid it  from the source .
[14:20] <leftyfb> no ... you .... don't
[14:20] <leftyfb> someone_: please pastebin the output of: apt-cache policy libxcb1
[14:21] <NeddySeagoon27> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[14:21] <NeddySeagoon27> "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
[14:21] <qwebirc96373> Hello, can someone help me with installation from a USB drive
[14:22] <ioria> qwebirc96373, what's the problem ?
[14:22] <qwebirc96373> I bot a ubuntu machine, but I want to install windows from a USB drive. How do I make it boot from the USB drive
[14:22] <qwebirc96373> bought*
[14:22] <someone_>   Installed: 1.11.1-1ubuntu1   Candidate: 1.11.1-1ubuntu1   Version table:  *** 1.11.1-1ubuntu1 500         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 Packages         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[14:22] <leftyfb> someone_: pastebin
[14:22] <qwebirc96373> I dont see the USB drive in the boot menu
[14:23] <qwebirc41818> leftyfb: notice I never assumed GCC 8.2 would be in 18.04 :-) the proper answer would be "you need to compile it yourself"
[14:23] <Exterminador> qwebirc96373: usually you need to setup the boot order in the BIOS
[14:23] <someone_> just learn me how can I build from the source and my problem will be solved
[14:23] <tomreyn> beta4: try booting with !nomodeset
[14:23] <tomreyn> !nomodeset
[14:23] <beta4> ok, I'll try.
[14:23] <leftyfb> someone_: no, your problems will be much much greater. What you're asking for is the complete wrong way to solve your issue
[14:24] <leftyfb> someone_: please run the follow and then share the resulting link here: apt-cache policy libxcb1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:25] <beta4> do I need the exclamation mark before nomodeset? (first time I see a kernel option with !)
[14:25] <qwebirc41818> leftyfb: anyway, thanks for help :-)
[14:26] <tomreyn> beta4: no. but wait a little, i'm just reading up on a better option
[14:27] <qwebirc96373> thanks, figured it out
[14:27] <qwebirc96373> thanks everyone
[14:27] <Exterminador> you're welcome!
[14:28] <leftyfb> someone_: it shouldn't take you that long to copy/paste the link here
[14:28] <tomreyn> beta4: try this, too: nouveau.runpm=0 (as per comment #16 on https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100228 )
[14:28] <pixoum> sorry for my bad english. I encounter some issue with Vlc since i try to give it same look than other gtk application, I use this tuto https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21898831#p21898831 and the log here http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CxmMyg7hwm/
[14:29] <tomreyn> beta4: so what happened to you loosing keyboard input at grub?
[14:29] <leftyfb> pixoum: rm -rf ~/.config/vlc should remove all customizations to your vlc application
[14:29] <someone_> leftyfb https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CdsBxMj7Mp/
[14:30] <someone_> I have solved other oibaf problems packages by installing older version manually in .deb format, so help how can I build from the source because I can't find libxcb1-1.11.1 in .deb format and my problem will be solved.
[14:30] <leftyfb> someone_: that was not what I asked you to do.
[14:30] <someone_> it is the same
[14:30] <leftyfb> someone_: regardless, you have version 1.11.1-1ubuntu1 libxcb1 from the official ubuntu repo's. Not from a PPA
[14:31] <beta4> @tomreyn: nope, still panic with nomodeset (without !). Also, there's a new option nouveau.runpm=0 that wasn't there before
[14:31] <leftyfb> someone_: since the version of libxcb1 installed is not your issue(stop worrying about it), what exactly is your issue? What is not working? What errors are you getting?
[14:31] <beta4> probably was put there automatically when I did sudo prime-select intel
[14:32] <tomreyn> beta4: that's the option i suggested you should add ;)
[14:33] <tomreyn> beta4: your plan right now is to disable the nvida chip completely and use only intel graphics, right?
[14:33] <asdfgh> hello
[14:33] <beta4> keyboard up and running since I reinstalled kubuntu while having secure boot off
[14:33] <asdfgh> what is the repo to install the last nvidia driver for ubuntu 18.04 ?
[14:34] <someone_> leftyfb it is from official ubuntu repo's but it is broken becuase other are not look https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2wZpVmSbGc/
[14:34] <beta4> my first priority right now is to get the intel GPU running and shut down the NVIDIA so that my laptop battery can last a reasonable time
[14:34] <ioria> pixoum, i used this (remember to logout/in) https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/05/get-qt5-apps-to-use-native-gtk-style-in.html
[14:34] <leftyfb> someone_: ok, that isn't libxcb1, that's libxcb-glx0. Completely different package
[14:35] <beta4> if I can reenable the NVIDIA from time to time for gaming (like using prime-select), that would be great, but for everyday use I want the intel GPU
[14:35] <someone_> leftyfb I thought all packages which start with libxcb are same .
[14:35] <someone_> I mean they can installed from one packages
[14:35] <leftyfb> someone_: sudo apt install libxcb-glx0=1.11.1-1ubuntu1
[14:37] <someone_> I can't do this , error : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/65dzCYCwzN/
[14:38] <tomreyn> beta4: try booting with module_blacklist=nouveau,nvidia then - or better yet, diable the nvidia chipset in your bios, if possible.
[14:38] <leftyfb> someone_: you do realize the mess you have made right?
[14:39] <beta4> bios has no option to disable nvidia, alr4eady looked there :(
[14:39] <someone_> yes *_*
[14:39] <leftyfb> someone_: you're going to need to research and and every package as part of those errors including all their dependencies to find out which ones you have installed manually, from ppa or from source and manually reinstall each of them in the correct order, potentially breaking your packaging while you do so.
[14:40] <tomreyn> beta4: your hardware is pretty new so is the linux support for it. this is causing the most issues you see here.nvidia shipping only proprietary drivers which dont integrate too well with the kernel is another issue.
[14:41] <leftyfb> someone_: you've been told before to stop installing packages manually or from source or even from ppa's. You do not know how to recover from the fallout and what you're doing obviously isn't solving anything and causing more problems
[14:41] <leftyfb> someone_: At this point, it is much quicker/cleaner/easier for you to wipe and reinstall ubuntu and restore your files(NOT applications) from backup
[14:43] <pixoum> ioria: thank you for your help, i logout for see if its look better
[14:43] <ioria> pixoum, ok
[14:44] <beta4> module_blacklist=nouveau,nvidia leaves me with a black screen but no 100% fan speed
[14:44] <someone_> No no, I can't reinstall ubuntu I have a lot of programs and customizations on this system, I have been using it for two years .
[14:44] <beta4> it seems to me that the intel hardware is causing issues, the nvidia works although it is power hungry
[14:45] <beta4> i'm not even sure I ever got to a login screen with the intel driver
[14:45] <someone_> I will try find a solution, leftyfb Thank you so much .
[14:45] <leftyfb> someone_: then good luck. Your system is in a compltely unstable state which you do not posses the knowledge to recover from and seem insistent or constantly making worse
[14:47] <someone_> I think I'm able to solve this and I will tell you after I solve it.
[14:49] <beta4> well, maybe not, if I do "glxinfo | grep vendor" I get Intel Open Source Technology Center
[14:49] <leftyfb> someone_: I've told you how to solve it. If you do anything other than the 2 options I gave you, you are going to make it worse.
[14:50] <beta4> but it is unstable and panics, while if I do module_blacklist=nouveau,nvidia it doesn't boot at all
[14:51] <beta4> also, even if I'm using the intel driver, powertop says 25W consumption, looks like the nvidia is still drawing power
[14:52] <scriptkiddies> exit
[14:52] <someone_> leftyfb I got it and I'm working on .
[14:55] <andy> Where is the default swapfile in 18.04?
[14:55] <EriC^> andy: /swapfile i guess try swapon -s
[14:56] <EriC^> or grep swap /etc/fstab
[14:56] <u0_a128> hello
[14:56] <andy> it's mapped to /dev/dm-2 because it's encrypted
[14:56] <BikerGuy54> hmm.. found gripe with rescue mode when having to reinstall 18.04 .. it doesn't allow for user creation/editing
[14:58] <BikerGuy54> and for some other reason, it doesn't like intel video chipsets in hp dc7800 systems
[14:58] <BikerGuy54> lubuntu works great :-)
[14:58] <RussellB2824> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[15:00] <nehemiah> What would be the best way to set the keyboard layout on startup. Preferably with a systemd script that  have already in place.
[15:00] <nehemiah> I needs to be unattended.
[15:01] <aleksas> changed to the wrong layout option and now only type cirrylic can't get past 'who are you? screen from installation
[15:01] <aleksas> how to change the language? no combinations seems to work
[15:02] <aleksas> dunno if my question is clear even
[15:02] <aleksas> maybe I should google it first
[15:03] <aleksas> I can switch to another tty but can't find the password for root
[15:05] <aleksas> ok after I switched to virtual terminal layout switched in gui as well
[15:05] <beta4> thanks tomreyn for the support, but I'mstarting to believe that this bug has currently no workaround. every time the nvidia is shut off I get stuck in a black screen during boot, and if I use the intel card while leaving the nvidia on, the system is unstable and panics while drawing 25+W anyway
[15:07] <andy> root is disabled by default in ubuntu
[15:08] <johnny56> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[15:08] <johnny56> "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
[15:10] <aleksas> andy: then how to get past 'who am I?' screen when accidentally changing default layout to only cyrillic signs during installation? well one way is to switch between terminals. but there is a login screen there and the thought was that there might have been some root that can be executed or something
[15:12] <andy> log into your regular user account and then enable the root user with sudo
[15:12] <andy> https://askubuntu.com/questions/44418/how-to-enable-root-login
[15:14] <andy> "changed to the wrong layout option and now only type cirrylic" not exactly sure what/how you did this
[15:14] <andy> did you just install ubuntu?
[15:14] <aleksas> there is russian option
[15:14] <aleksas> which only give russian without latin apparently
[15:14] <aleksas> or any language switching combo didn't work
[15:15] <aleksas> Russian (US, phonetic)
[15:15] <aleksas> I didn't find how to change it anyway
[15:16] <aleksas> super l + space didn't work
[15:16] <aleksas> nothing worked except switching to tty and back during install
[15:17] <aleksas> and the option didn't allow to get username in cyrillic anyway
[15:17] <andy> you installer is only in russian??
[15:17] <andy> your*
[15:18] <aleksas> not an installer, keyboard layout you can choose, I choose russian because I thought it would be russian and english
[15:18] <aleksas> anyway it might be maybe possible to switch to latin in this but I haven't find how
[15:18] <aleksas> super + space didn't work
[15:19] <aleksas> now after I switched back to us and added additional russian I can switch with super space
[15:19] <aleksas> sorry if it is not very clear, am in a bit of a rush here
[15:20] <ioria> Super ] Space changes the kb layout  not the system language
[15:21] <aleksas> I am not meaning system language
[15:21] <aleksas> ok please forget it I didn't make myself clear enough and I don't want to confuse you more at the moment
[15:23] <aleksas> I know I can possibly google it, but anyone know how to disable the lock screen after resume from suspend in Ubuntu 18, short on time today
[15:25] <aleksas> I unchecked screen lock in privacy but I still have it
[15:26] <sdgn> you have a password ?
[15:27] <aleksas> gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.screensaver ubuntu-lock-on-suspend 'false'
[15:27] <aleksas> that was how, from here https://askubuntu.com/questions/990056/turn-off-requesting-user-password-after-suspend-17-10/990784
[15:27] <aleksas> ok next one is disable super key to activate activities option, anyone?
[15:29] <aleksas> gsettings set org.gnome.mutter overlay-key 'Alt_R' - that's how
[15:29] <darkdrgn3k> test2
[15:32] <sdgn> is this some kind of riddle? lol
[15:33] <tomreyn> beta4: we're far from having exhausted the available options. you can still try the acpi related suggestions TJ posted earlier
[15:33] <tomreyn> beta4: you don't communicate much, though, so i keep attending different things and then also take a long time to get back to you.
[15:34] <aleksas> sdgn: it's a russian guy trying to type faster than he think and be able to translate it
[15:35] <aleksas> lol
[15:35] <sdgn> lmao
[15:35] <aleksas> anyway I think you can not not to have a password, am I wrong?
[15:35] <beta4> sorry for the long replies
[15:36] <beta4> the acpi thing, let's see
[15:37] <tomreyn> beta4: that's ok, i don't mind asynchronus chats, just explaining why you get them from my end, too ;)
[15:37] <sdgn> hold on a second, I'm not sure to have understood everything.
[15:37] <beta4> if I understood correctly, I'll have to set break=init
[15:37] <beta4> but I'm confused by the "beta4 I'd do as I suggested drop to shell in initramfs, manually get the correct "Windows XXXX" value from sysfs, then reboot and use the acpi_osi workaround"
[15:38] <fajIII> hi
[15:38] <fajIII> just got a ph-1 essentiaI phone, with oreo, i have got a lot of files spread out all over the place (about 60 gigs of 360 camera images and map files etc). Can i flash a custom recovery and do a nandroid without wiping first ?
[15:38] <fajIII> Would be great if i can do a nandroid before upgrading to android P
[15:38] <tomreyn> beta4: oh right, i think you are lacking some information there, let me dig up TJ's article on this
[15:39] <raidensnake> i wish the bluetooth hardware didn't bug out
[15:39] <tomreyn> beta4: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[15:39] <sdgn> @raidensnake what bluetooth hardware ?
[15:39] <beta4> having a look at the article
[15:40] <tomreyn> beta4: so "manually get the correct 'Windows XXXX' value from sysfs" refers to running: sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i 'windows ' | sort | tail -1
[15:42] <beta4> now that I can boot the machine, I'll try without break=init then
[15:42] <tomreyn> beta4: that's a good point
[15:43] <leslieGrid> hi there
[15:43] <beta4> booting right now
[15:43] <tomreyn> beta4: let me know the string you'll end up with
[15:43] <leslieGrid> i have these /dev/loop0          21M      21M     0 100% /snap/gnome-logs/23 mount points
[15:44] <leslieGrid> up to loop9, where do they come from and hwo to get rid of them ?
[15:44] <leslieGrid> i thought it might be a snap, but snap list shows nothing
[15:45] <tomreyn> beta4: the idea here i that we'll make the ACPI (firmware) think we're this windows version, and it will thus actually cooperate better with us than it would if we're "something else" (which ist doesn't really know about, and which would make it fall back to safe (?) defaults), when Linux can actually do a lot better.
[15:45] <beta4> Windows 2015
[15:46] <beta4> so I have to try booting with acpi_osi="Windows 2015" right? (is the quoting correct?)
[15:47] <tomreyn> beta4: okay, so just manuelly edit this into grub once, i'd say, see if it works. and if it does, make it permanent by editing, after fully booting, /etc/default/grub and running update-grub
[15:50] <beta4> booting with that option, let's see
[15:50] <dev_u_random> is there a reader like less that will display terminal colors?
[15:52] <tomreyn> beta4: ok. i'd also suggest installing a mainline kernel to test whether it provides better support for your pretty new hardware.
[15:52] <tomreyn> !mainline | beta4
[15:53] <beta4> a new kernel is a good idea
[15:53] <tomreyn> again, it's TJ to the rescue, he wrote this nifty little shell script which lets you manage those ubuntu mainline kernel builds better than any other way i've seen so far: http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/wget_kernel_mainline.sh
[15:53] <beta4> I tried booting with acpi_osi="Windows 2015" and removed the nouveau.runpm=0 option, and got to the desktop
[15:53] <beta4> after that, however, the screen stops being updated
[15:54] <tomreyn> beta4: can you still swithc to a tty?
[15:54] <beta4> ctrl-alt-f1 does nothing
[15:54] <tomreyn> try ctrl-alt-f3
[15:55] <beta4> too late, forced reboot :(
[15:55] <tomreyn> you can repeat
[15:56] <beta4> yep, this time tryng with leaving nouveau.runpm=0, and same acpi_osi as before
[15:56] <tomreyn> beta4: from ubuntu 18.04 release notes: GDM has replaced LightDM as the default display manager. The login screen now uses virtual terminal 1 instead of virtual terminal 7.
[15:57] <beta4> didn't know that...
[15:57] <tomreyn> !sysrq | beta4
[15:57] <tomreyn> ^ for a cleaner reboot in case it freezes
[15:58] <beta4> the sysrq, I've already heard about those, will use it if required
[15:58] <tomreyn> beta4: please "dmesg -T | pastebinit" once it's booted, assuming you can still control it
[16:00] <beta4> uploading
[16:01] <beta4> https://pastebin.com/eX7wLxBJ
[16:01] <tomreyn> beta4: also note that this kernel parameter (to be placed during via grub) can allow you to boot to a non graphical but otherwise fully booted system: systemd.unit=multi-user.target
[16:02] <beta4> for now I've been using recovery mode, and drop to a root shell (when fs is mounted rw)
[16:02] <tomreyn> this can be useful if switching to a TTY does not work or the system remains unstable that way.
[16:02] <tomreyn> thanks for dmesg
[16:03] <beta4> thank you for your time and suggestions
[16:03] <tomreyn> welcome. unfortunately acpi doesn't look much happier than before.
[16:04] <tomreyn> a bit, though, i think. can't really find the old dmesg to compare
[16:05] <beta4> I only pasted the kernel panic last time
[16:05] <beta4> it was from /var/log/kern.log
[16:05] <tomreyn> oh ok. but i did see some acpi exceptions before.
[16:05] <beta4> as the machine wasn't usable and had to get the message after a reboot
[16:06] <beta4> https://pastebin.com/raw/S4QJdK7e
[16:06] <someone_> leftyfb I solved the problem, I have downloaded all .deb files from pkgs.org and after I installed them to take place of oibaf files, I executed sudo apt -f install and that is it and everything is perfect now .
[16:06] <beta4> this was the previous paste
[16:06] <tomreyn> beta4: okay, there are just 2 acpi warnings on top, thats all.
[16:07] <beta4> any idea what to do next?
[16:07] <someone_> leftyfb Thank you so much.
[16:08] <tomreyn> beta4: newer kernel. also i'd like to see (dmesg) it booting with blacklisted nouveau + nvidia sometime, but this can be with the newer kernel
[16:08] <beta4> will try the blacklist first
[16:10] <jocic> Hello guys, I'm having a little problem with update-rc.d script. Running "update-rc.d -f apache2 remove" indeed does remove the links from RC folders but apache2 starts anyways. What's up with that?
[16:11] <beta4> slowly shuting down, then I'll try with module_blacklist=nouveau,nvidia acpi_osi="Windows 2015"
[16:12] <tomreyn> ok
[16:12] <tomreyn> jocic: which ubuntu release?
[16:13] <beta4> booting right now, let's see
[16:14] <jocic> tomreyn: 18.04 LTS (Bionic Reaver)
[16:14] <beta4> ho un failed to start dGPU during boot
[16:15] <beta4> but I have a login screen
[16:15] <tomreyn> beta4: 'ho un'?
[16:15] <tomreyn> jocic: please read up on systemd, things have changed
[16:15] <beta4> sorry it's "I have a", I'm Italian...
[16:16] <tomreyn> beta4: dGPU would be discrete GPU, which  is the nvidia one, which we want to fail to start up currently.
[16:16] <jocic> tomreyn: Ummm, alright. Thanks for letting me know!
[16:17] <beta4> ok, running powertop to confirm the gpu is really off
[16:17] <tomreyn> jocic: the systemd equivalent to what you ran would be 'systemctl disable apache2', i think
[16:18] <tomreyn> beta4: i'm not sure it is ;)
[16:18] <beta4> does not crash!
[16:19] <beta4> before it crashed while suspending
[16:19] <tomreyn> beta4: nice.
[16:19] <beta4> and failed to resume, now I can suspend and resume, it' an improvement
[16:19] <calamari> in Synaptic Package Manager, there is a section "Installed (local or obsolete)". is there a command line way to list that particular subset of packages?
[16:19] <beta4> power is 21W idle
[16:20] <tomreyn> beta4: still a lot, but better than 40, right
[16:20] <jocic> tomreyn: It worked like a charm. Thank you very much!
[16:20] <tomreyn> beta4: i think you missed part of the ACPI article.
[16:20] <beta4> don't know if nvidia is off, my instinct (based on my previous asus laptop that got down to 10W idle) says no
[16:21] <beta4> which part I missed?
[16:22] <whoamiclay> know function backdoor.sh? please im newbie
[16:22] <tomreyn> whoamiclay: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[16:23] <tomreyn> beta4: sorry, i'm trying to find it
[16:23] <whoamiclay> tomreyn yes
[16:24] <tomreyn> jocic: you're welcome!
[16:24] <tomreyn> beta4: please read the solution paragraph again, especially the end: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[16:24] <tomreyn> beta4: this suggests to have both of these kernel parameters: acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2015"
[16:25] <beta4> will try now
[16:25] <xjkx> i'm about to mount an encrypted image, the script I got, does losetup -D, but i see in man page that it will umount all the loops, i see ubuntu has many mounted images as "/var/lib/snapd/snaps/", like twelve of them, so...maybe i shouldnt let the script do the -D, and should i mount the image in what loop, like loop13? since until 12, they are all used for snapd, even though i'm not sure what it really does
[16:25] <tomreyn> beta4: the first one removes all others, the second one adds only the "Windows 2015" string. this is needed to actually result in a different behavior
[16:28] <tomreyn> xjkx: any non-taken loop device should be fine. explain what type of encryption you are trying to use, though, maybe also link to the documentaiton you are following.
[16:28] <beta4> trying first without the blacklist
[16:29] <tomreyn> ok
[16:29] <xjkx> tomreyn:   this is the script i was about to run https://gist.github.com/PaulMaddox/9972046 see it umounts all loops (-D) to use loop0, that ubuntu uses for "/var/lib/snapd/snaps/gnome-system-monitor_36.snap", so my question is that, if i should, instead, modify the script to, instead, just use another spot for loop, instead of umounting everything to use loop0
[16:30] <tomreyn> xjkx: snap is an alternative software packaging system, see http://snapcraft.io for details. newer ubuntu versions have it in addition to the classic apt repositories for debian packages.
[16:31] <beta4> login successful, mouse stops moving (panic)
[16:31] <beta4> ctrl-alt-f3 does nothing
[16:31] <tomreyn> xjkx: as you already found out, blindly running 'losetup -D' is not a good idea
[16:32] <tomreyn> beta4: :/ okay, try again with the blacklists
[16:32] <beta4> reisub sysrq reboots
[16:32] <beta4> trying w blacklist
[16:32] <tomreyn> and please get us another dmesg then
[16:32] <xjkx> tomreyn: alright, so, i just mount it in loop13? is there a limit? I see in /dev that there is no /dev/loop14
[16:33] <tomreyn> xjkx: please read the 'losetup' man page losetup(8) to learn how you and any scripts can create additional loop devices
[16:34] <xjkx> ok, thanks
[16:34] <tomreyn> xjkx: there is probably no limit other than that of the open files handler, but you are very far from that.
[16:34] <beta4> booting with module_blacklist=nouveau,nvidia acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2015"
[16:34]  * tomreyn thumbs up
[16:36] <ppf> just noticed since the upgrade to bionic my microphone stopped working in chrome
[16:37] <ppf> any suggestion what to do?
[16:38] <tomreyn> beta4: yet another things you could try, and we haven't discussed yet (i didn't think of it, yet), is to edit /etc/gdm3/custom.conf and remove the comment before "WaylandEnable=false". this may make the system boot with both intel and nvidia enabled (so you can have acceleration).
[16:38] <beta4> boots, no panic, suspends/resumes ok, glxgears works so 3D acceleration seems ok
[16:38] <beta4> still around 20W
[16:38] <tomreyn> beta4: you currently have 3d acceleration with intel, i assume
[16:39] <tomreyn> beta4: glxinfo would tell
[16:39] <beta4> yes, glxinfo | grep vendor reports mesa as driver and intel
[16:40] <beta4> are you sure kubuntu uses wayland?
[16:41] <tomreyn> beta4: oh, good point, sorry i forgot it's kde
[16:41] <beta4> ps ax | grep X finds Xorg
[16:41] <tomreyn> beta4: so it starts kdm as the display mamanger or gdm or something else?
[16:41] <beta4> kdm I suppose
[16:42] <tomreyn> it'll still be running and should show in 'ps auxw | grep dm'
[16:42] <tomreyn> there's also sddm, i think it replaced kdm
[16:43] <tomreyn> i haven't used kde in ages
[16:43] <beta4> you're right, ps ax | grep dm finds sddm
[16:44] <tomreyn> well but this means we can ignore the gdm configuration change for now
[16:45] <tomreyn> beta4: do you have a file ~/.local/share/sddm/wayland-session.log ?
[16:45] <beta4> looking
[16:46] <beta4> no, xorg-session.log
[16:47] <tomreyn> beta4: alright, it would be good to see this log file after a blacklist boot as well
[16:47] <beta4> uploading it
[16:48] <tomreyn> dmesg, too? :)
[16:48] <beta4> it's empty :(
[16:48] <beta4> 0 bytes
[16:48] <tomreyn> which one?
[16:48] <beta4> the xorg-sessions.log
[16:50] <tomreyn> beta4: do you have non-empty ~/.xsession-errors and ~/.local/share/xorg/*.log files? if so, show their last modification dates and upload the current ones
[16:51] <beta4> dmesg in the meantime https://pastebin.com/C9jcgPM0
[16:52] <dan3wik> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[16:53] <beta4> half MB of xsession errors being uploaded
[16:54] <himanshu> how to copy file in usr folder
[16:54] <beta4> https://pastebin.com/kVny6Eg0
[16:56] <beta4> this is related to the nvidia driver blacklist I guess ERROR: NVIDIA driver is not loaded
[16:56] <tomreyn> beta4: yes it must be. the ACPI trickery helped a lot with this system.
[16:57] <tomreyn> beta4: you have only very few acpi issues left now.
[16:57] <beta4> sure, before it couldn't even boot with the intel gpu, now it even suspends/resumes!
[16:58] <beta4> I think the last think missing if to put the nvidia in power save mode, somehow
[16:59] <CheckmateX> its safe to install php5-mysqlnd-ms
[16:59] <beta4> or I could also be happy with what I have, after all the battery should last 2 hours instead of 1
[16:59] <CheckmateX> ?
[16:59] <tomreyn> beta4: we could try to make linux not even examine this device no the pci bus with another kernel parameter. i forgot the exact syntax, though.
[16:59] <tomreyn> (would need to look it up)
[16:59] <tomreyn> Guest90264: why would you want to do this?
[17:00] <tomreyn> CheckmateX: what makes you ask this, and provide more context / details
[17:00] <tomreyn> !details | CheckmateX
[17:00] <Guest79333> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[17:00] <tomreyn> beta4: any Xorg.*.*log?
[17:00] <tomreyn> beta4: any Xorg.*.log?
[17:02] <beta4> let me check
[17:02] <beta4> I don't have a .local/share/xorg directory
[17:03] <tomreyn> beta4: "ERROR: NVIDIA driver is not loaded" in ~/.xesession-error.log will be cmoning from the nvidia-settings app, i think
[17:04] <tomreyn> beta4: ok, do you have current /var/log/Xorg.*.log files?
[17:04] <beta4> I have the nvidia settings app, but never launched it
[17:05] <beta4> there it is
[17:05] <tomreyn> i suspects that nvida-settings gets started automatically with the kdm session
[17:05] <tomreyn> *KDE
[17:05] <Guest90264> how to copy file in usr folder
 Guest90264: why would you want to do this?
[17:07] <Guest90264> actually i want to import graphics.h header file in code blocks
[17:08] <beta4> xorg.0.log https://pastebin.com/2mB9HB1D
[17:08] <Guest90264> please anybody help me
[17:08] <beta4> xorg.1.log https://pastebin.com/LC3J1kLP
[17:08] <tomreyn> Guest90264: i'm  quite sure copying files to /usr is not the right way for this.
[17:09] <Guest90264> then how can i do this
[17:09] <beta4> pastebin has started showing me captchas :)
[17:09] <tomreyn> Guest90264: i suggest you seek help from the codeblocks developers
[17:09] <tomreyn> beta4: this and other reasons is why we prefer paste.ubuntu.com
[17:09] <Guest90264> uff..how can i reach to them
[17:10] <tomreyn> Guest90264: i dont know.
[17:10] <tomreyn> Guest90264: but this seems to be the application you are trying to make work
[17:11] <Guest90264> ovyo
[17:14] <tomreyn> beta4: thanks, i'm slowly catching up on the pastes. can you also: lspci -nn | pastebinit
[17:16] <tomreyn> beta4: also, does audio work for you?
[17:16] <beta4> yep
[17:17] <tomreyn> good, how about wireless + bluetooth
[17:18] <beta4> connected to wifi, watchin' youtube right away :)
[17:18] <tomreyn> dont watch youtube when you haven't posted "lspci -nn"
[17:18] <tomreyn> :-P
[17:19] <beta4> uploading, don't worry ;)
[17:19] <beta4> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6nvD6scry4/
[17:20] <beta4> will start konversation on the other machine now that its stable, been moving those logs through a usb key till now to upload and post them to you
[17:22] <beta4_> it's still me
[17:22] <tomreyn> beta4_: that's reassuring.
[17:22] <beta4_> :)
[17:24] <tomreyn> beta4_: you have plenty of "Intel Corporation Device"s in lscpi. maybe run "sudo update-pciids; sudo aptdate-usbids" to hopefully get nicer output in lspci and lsusb in the future.
[17:24] <beta4_> ok
[17:25] <beta4_> been asking why so little information myself...
[17:27] <beta4_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jjXBdPSGYM/
[17:27] <beta4_> lspci -nn after updating ids
[17:35] <ossare> Hello.  Upgraded to 18.04 this morning. Upgrade went fine but cannot get past login screen -- X won't start. Error in logs says /dev/fb0 has wrong perms. It is owned by root:video, and crwrw--. What can I do to get into the desktop?
[17:35] <ossare> crwxrw----
[17:36] <ossare> ircing from a console on same machine.
[17:38] <tomreyn> beta4_: much more (human) readable already, compare yourself: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6nvD6scry4/ https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jjXBdPSGYM/
[17:38] <tomreyn> it also shows how new this hardware is
[17:39] <beta4_> in the meantime, youtube plays in 4K with no artifacts or slowdowns on the intel GPU, and compositing works
[17:44] <tomreyn> :)
[17:44] <beta4_> do you think it0s time to make the changes permanent?
[17:49] <mindjuju20> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[17:49] <beta4_> tomreyn, what about this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/551424/how-to-turn-off-nvidia-hybrid-graphics
[17:49] <beta4_> bbswitch load_state=0
[17:52] <Guest90264> hey can anybody tell how to download the header file of c language
[17:52] <Guest90264> and how to import them in ubuntu
[17:54] <someone_> Hi, Where can I find driver for this card RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe ?
[17:55] <Kafan> When will 16.04.5 -> 18.04.1 upgrade be available?  I read that it was supposed to be a couple days after 18.04.1 came out, but my system hasnt been able to see the update.
[17:56] <beta4_> rebooting
[17:56] <Guest90264> hey can anybody tell how to download the header file of c language
[17:57] <Guest90264> and how to import them in ubuntu
[17:57] <brokemyvps> So...the last upgrade for grub2 on cosmic via aptitude lead to my vps booting to kernel panic 'unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)'.  The last prompt asked me whether to install the maintainer's grub.lst or keep my own...I chose the maintainer's (which probably missed some detail that I didn't see that was different).  Should I be filing a bug for this(now that my vps is unbootable and I'll probably need to reformat it)
[17:57] <Guest90264> please tell
[17:58] <someone_> search on the web first .
[17:58] <brokemyvps> it's an almost new install (clean 16.04 install->18.04 upgrade->18.10 upgrade -> recent set of upgrades incl grub2 without much else being done to it)
[18:06] <kaleidoscope> quick question, how do you clear nfs mounts? on windows running `showmount -a 192.168.1.12' reports several clients that do not exist anymore. i would like to tell ubuntu to clear this list or reset it
[18:06] <kaleidoscope> how would i go on about doing that?
[18:08] <jsubl2> kaleidoscope: look at man umount
 so, he wants the win. so we're just gonna get lunch or something, then hes gonna push me to the ground and tap my ass with his foot so he can claim he "kicked my ass" tbh im going along with it becase I dont wanna lose any teeth
[18:12] <themusicgod1> guest90264 doesn't libc6-dev or something have them?
[18:12] <kaleidoscope> jsubl2: err, is the meant for the nfs server or client?
[18:13] <jsubl2> kaleidoscope: try server first
[18:13] <jsubl2> report back
[18:16] <tomreyn> Kafan: it still is a couple days after 18.04.1 cam out now. ;)
[18:17] <Kafan> Yeah sorry I thought it came out at the end of july, and it'd been a week and a half
[18:17] <Kafan> I apparently got it wrong
[18:19] <tomreyn> Kafan: i think it's actually delayed, but there's no official statement on it. basically, it's done when it's done.
[18:19] <Kafan> fair enough
[18:19]  * Kafan returns to being quietly impatient
[18:19] <Kafan> thanks
[18:19] <tomreyn> to me personally, it seems worth waiting a while longer for a well tested and stable upgrade path
[18:19] <tomreyn> i see its the same for you :)
[18:20] <Kafan> Well that is the reason we're both on LTS
[18:20] <Kafan> (though I guess that's an assumtion for you)
[18:20] <Kafan> anyway, thanks for the note
[18:21] <kaleidoscope> jsubl2: so i ran umount against /proc/fs/nfsd and rebooted. no change. i don't have mounted folders for my share folder (/srv/nfs/networkkey) so i'm unsure on exactly what i'm supposed to umount
[18:21] <someone_> Guys linux-firmware-nonfree how I can install this on ubuntu 16.04 ??
[18:21] <tomreyn> someone_: are you asking how to install a package on ubuntu?
[18:21] <jsubl2> kaleidoscope: ok so the mount only show up on the windows side
[18:22] <ossare> Hello.  Upgraded to 18.04 this morning. Upgrade went fine, except for X. It won't start a session from GDM -- blinks and returns to the login screen. startx runs but gives me a Gnome desktop that takes no input (and also has no icons on the desktop). I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it appeared to do nothing.
[18:23] <someone_> tomreyn I found this is it safe ? >> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/amd64/linux-firmware-nonfree/1.16
[18:23] <tomreyn> beta4 sorry, i had to leave for a bit earlier. yes i think it's time to make the changes permanent. i don't know about 'bbswitch'. i suspect 'bb' refers to bumblebee, which is the predecessor of prime. on the other hand, 'prime' is mentioned there so maybe it does still work.
[18:24] <saderror256> isnt there a package that offers a gui for .deb packages?
[18:24] <tomreyn> someone_: what are you trying to do?
[18:24] <someone_> install wifi driver
[18:24] <saderror256> i need it because it handles dependencies much better than dpkg
[18:24] <tomreyn> saderror256: there is synaptic, a gui for apt
[18:24] <saderror256> but i need a tool that installs from a .deb package
[18:24] <rfm> kaleidoscope, I think you just edit the stale entries out of /var/lib/nfs/rmtab (on the server).  Might want to stop/start nfs-mountd around editing, but I doubt anything really bad would happen if you didn't.
[18:24] <saderror256> synaptic isnt what i am looking for
[18:25] <someone_> driver for this card RT3290
[18:25] <tomreyn> saderror256: why do you need to installa debian package directly (this is uncommon and can be a major mistake)? what's the issue you're trying to solve?
[18:25] <kaleidoscope> jsubl2: for my current computer, i unmounted. my entire network (2 linux + 2 windows) connects to nfs on.
[18:26] <saderror256> the package needs lots of dependencies but dpkg doesnt install them
[18:26] <beta4> tomreyn, tried bbswitch_dkms, made it worse
[18:26] <jsubl2> kaleidoscope: did you try rfm suggestion
[18:26] <saderror256> its a game, and isnt in the repos
[18:26] <kaleidoscope> just about too
[18:26] <tomreyn> someone_: on which ubuntu release?
[18:26] <someone_> 16.04
[18:26] <beta4> now screen goes blank *before* asking my enrypted lvm password
[18:27] <beta4> worse, it remained that way even after undoing all changes
[18:27] <tomreyn> beta4: i guess it expects to see both intel and nvidia modules loaded by this time.
[18:27] <kaleidoscope> jsubl2 + rfm: yes, that works perfectly! thank you very much!
[18:27] <jsubl2> kaleidoscope: editing the entries
[18:28] <someone_> tomreyn I think it is fine , Right? I can install that package on 16.04 with no any conflict.
[18:29] <beta4> don't know what it broke, purged the package, undone all changes made to /etc/modules, did update-initramfs again, it rrmains broken
[18:29] <kaleidoscope> jsubl2: for safety, i stopped nfs-mountd, removed all lines from /var/lib/nfs/rmtab, restarted both nfs-mountd and nfs-server. i ran showmount on a windows nfs client and it reports no mount points
[18:29] <beta4> back to black screen at boot
[18:29] <jsubl2> kaleidoscope: great!
[18:30] <tomreyn> beta4: actually i assume you already have the nvidia one powered off as much as you can. here's another suggestion / hack from someone in ##linux: vfio-pci.ids=10de:1184,10de:0e0a  (this id is an example, we would need to modify it for you). this kernel parameter will make the device at this pci address unavailable to this system. this module is actually used to rebind / passthrough pci devices to a VM. but you could just make it unavailable and
[18:30] <tomreyn> never pass it to a VM.
[18:30] <kaleidoscope> jsubl2: yes, thank you very much! :)
[18:30] <tomreyn> someone_: you already have those firmwares installed.
[18:31] <jsubl2> and thanks rfm
[18:31] <beta4> now going to eat, back soon, first I'll hae to get to the preious point, hopefully without reinstalling kubuntu again
[18:32] <themusicgod1> ossare: are you using any proprietary video drivers?
[18:33] <someone_> tomreyn  but it does not work well, so maybe not-free is better .
[18:33] <tomreyn> saderror256_: you can install random packages using "apt install /path&to/package.dpkg" - but this may break apt. you really don't want to do this unless you know exactly that this packager is compatible to your very ubuntu release and architecture.
[18:34] <tomreyn> someone_: this packages you found is a package from the debian distribution. they have separate packages for free and non-free firmware. ubuntu has them all in one, installed by default. you already have it.
[18:34] <tomreyn> someone_: your approach is still bad. you need to read up more on things before you do things.
[18:35] <tomreyn> someone_: people here keep warning you about this :-/
[18:35] <someone_> tomreyn Ok, thanks.
[18:35] <tomreyn> beta4: oh, that's bad, i missed your other messages.
[18:36] <tomreyn> beta4: try a cold boot, battery removed
[18:37] <beta4> battery is internal in this laptop
[18:37] <ossare> Hello.  Upgraded to 18.04 this morning. Upgrade went fine, except for X. It won't start a session from GDM -- blinks and returns to the login screen. startx runs but gives me a Gnome desktop that takes no input (and also has no icons on the desktop). I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it appeared to do nothing. I can successfully log in as newuser, so the problem seems to be something in my $HOME. But
[18:37] <ossare> I don't know what. Any ideas?
[18:37] <fath0m> Hello, Could somebody help me get the gpu drivers on my Dell Inspiron 5570? It has hybridg graphics between i5-8250u and AMD radeon 530.
[18:37] <fath0m> I can't to find any solutions on the internet...
[18:37] <tomreyn> beta4: dkms is a way to build modules. i assume one was built and gets loaded now. can you point me to the documentation you found on how to enable bbswitch_dkms again?
[18:38] <tomreyn> !who | beta4 enjoy your meal. for later
[18:46] <tomreyn> ossare: try to clean ~/.cache
[18:46] <galsoil> hello, can some help?
[18:47] <tomreyn> !ask | galsoil
[18:47] <galsoil> wonder fulll, it works thanks! first time user with ip tables problem
[18:48] <galsoil> exit
[18:48] <tomreyn> ossare: you can always move you old user account out of the way, then copy back directoryies from there one by one. the issue is most likely with either .cache or .config or one of the other 'hidden' directories
[18:50] <johnlage6> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[18:50] <gdibass> That's... disappointing
[18:51] <ryuo> gdibass: pay it no mind. it's part of the spam attack that Freenode is under.
[18:53] <saderror256> johnmark: bad bad bad bot
[18:53] <saderror256> i hope they fix it soon
[18:53] <saderror256> whoops wrong person to ping :P
[18:54] <gdibass> ryuo, is that why I've been getting those ctcp versions from freenode-connect ?
[18:54] <ryuo> gdibass: maybe. no idea.
[18:55] <ryuo> gdibass: identifying with SASL may help.
[18:55] <gdibass> I'm identified
[18:56] <ryuo> gdibass: i'm aware.
[18:59] <der_conno> short question: Shouldn't "http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts" be updated so the LTS systems get the 18.04.1 update?
[19:00] <tomreyn> der_conno: yes, when it's ready.
[19:01] <der_conno> tomreyn: I thought the release rolled out allready?
[19:02] <nortoh> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[19:02] <tomreyn> der_conno: 18.04.1 is released. LTS upgrades aren't supported, yet. it'll be done when it's done, involves testing to allow for a reliable upgrade.
[19:03] <der_conno> tomreyn: ok, thanks^^
[19:21] <beta4> hi tomreyn, I'm back at the pc
[19:22] <FurretUber> Is there a way to upgrade only xfce4-screenshooter on Bionic to the Cosmic version? xfce4-screenshooter has a bug on Bionic that it can't copy large or complex screenshots to clipboard and make applications where the user tried to paste freeze or crash
[19:22] <andaii> I just switched to Ubuntu again (18.04), configured my wacom tablet with xsetwacom, now trying to make it persistent. Is Xorg.conf still a thing? (Also, I appear to be running Wayland and Xorg simultaneously, which one is it?)
[19:23] <Shanmugamp71> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[19:23] <gdibass> jfc
[19:23] <gdibass> they don't stop
[19:24] <HellFire> FurretUber: you could manually download the .deb and install it, assuming there's no incompatibilities with dependencies
[19:25] <Volund> so hey guys, what's up?
[19:25] <beta4> tomreyn, whatever is causing the issue now, it happens pretty early at boot, before I am asked for the password to unlock the encrypted root filesystem
[19:27] <xerf> hi
[19:28] <Volund> so I'mma be reinstalling Ubuntu to replace Windows 10... AGAIN...
[19:30] <tomreyn> beta4: wb. yes, it happens in initrd. what does this return? sudo rgrep bbswitch /etc/mod* 2>&1 | pastebinit
[19:30] <viju> Hi, Whenever I go away from the laptop for a while it shows a black screen with no way to get back to the unlock screen.
[19:30] <viju> I am using 16.04
[19:30] <beta4> trying
[19:30] <viju> This has been happening from past 3-4 days. I must have rebooted 3-4 times in past 1 hour.
[19:31] <viju> logs? Where are the logs for this
[19:32] <tomreyn> viju: are you running xubuntu by chance?
[19:32] <beta4> tomreyn, sudo rgrep bbswitch /etc/mod* 2>&1 turns out empty
[19:33] <tomreyn> beta4: sudo update-initramfs -c -k $(uname -r)
[19:33] <tomreyn> beta4: then reboot into the same kernel image / version again
[19:34] <beta4_> https://askubuntu.com/questions/551424/how-to-turn-off-nvidia-hybrid-graphics
[19:34] <jayjo> is there a way to disable my machine from sleeping on ubuntu 1804? The Power settings has a switch "automatic suspsend" which is off, but it still sleeps
[19:34] <beta4> this was the guide I followed
[19:34] <beta4> tomreyn, had to boot in recovery mode to get the guide, it was in the browser of the other machine
[19:34] <jayjo> is this a tweak? Also, when I lock my screen with Super + L my machine immediately goes to sleep. That may be a connected issue, but just preventing sleeps on walking away is my main priority
[19:36] <beta4> doing this sudo update-initramfs -c -k $(uname -r)
[19:36] <tomreyn> beta4: thanks for re-posting the bbswitch guide you followed, i had since found it on the backlog.
[19:36] <tomreyn> beta4: should have told you, sorry
[19:36] <themusicgod1> jayjo: is installing another desktop environment an option?  that's probably not what the actual supported option is going to be but if that was happening to me...i'd be trying kde or xfce or something
[19:37] <beta4> my undo procedure has been to remove all changes to config files, purge bbswitch-dkms and update-initramfs -u
[19:39] <tomreyn> !flavours | themusicgod1
[19:39] <tomreyn> beta4: this time we'Re not updating (-u) but recreating (-c) the nitramfs, hopeing this will make a difference.
[19:41] <phoe2> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[19:41] <tomreyn> themusicgod1: in other words: yes, that's totally an option
[19:41] <wulung> good day to all, anyone with wiki access [wiki.ubuntu.com] ?
[19:42] <beta4> tomreyn sure it did, now it asked for the password
[19:42] <beta4> still booting with module_blacklist=nouveau,nvidia acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2015"
[19:42] <tomreyn> beta4: yeay. so make it permanent if you haven't.
[19:43] <tomreyn> i assume you already have, i would not want to have to type this all the time ;)
[19:43] <beta4> not yet, will do now
[19:44] <takekuma> hello
[19:46] <beta4> rebooting to test
[19:47] <theor> Hi. Migrated to 18.04, and my laptop won't wake up from suspend. Linux 4.15.0-29-generic on a i7 Skylake x86_64. What should I do?
[19:48] <jayjo> what piece of software is deciding to go to sleep when I lock my screen?
[19:48] <jayjo> What is making that decision so I can troubleshoot this problem a little better
[19:49] <theor> jayjo: systemd
[19:49] <theor> but I'm not sure where to go from there
[19:50] <Volund> here's hoping that this time when I bring up Ubuntu it doesn't require me to alter my boot options just so my graphics card works again
[19:50] <Volund> here I come 18.04
[19:50] <beta4> tomreyn, permanent changes are permanent, thanks
[19:51] <beta4> let's just hope it doesn't fall apart at the next apt dist-upgrade ;)
[19:51] <Volund> that happened to me too once
[19:52] <takekuma> hellooo
[19:53]  * BikerGuy54 is a happy camper, got 18.04 running..under lubuntu .. some reason ubuntu 18.04 doesnt like older hp systems :(
[19:55] <takekuma> hellooo
[19:55] <takekuma> Exit
[19:55] <takekuma> exit
[20:02] <Volund> Well. here goes nothing.
[20:03] <Ckat19> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[20:03] <Ckat19> "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
[20:03] <tomreyn> beta4: if you edited /etc/default/grub then it wont fall apart, no
[20:03] <tomreyn> should be fine then
[20:03] <Volund> oh FFS are those spambots EVERYWHERE?
[20:04] <beta4_> tomreyn, yes, edited /etc/default/grub
[20:04] <beta4_> and thanks again!
[20:04] <Volund> okay time to get cracking. see you again soon... hopefully
[20:05] <zenguy-> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[20:06] <tomreyn> beta4_: you're welcome. i think if i was you i'd keep an eye on nvidia driver updates (in ubuntu) and maybe try mainline kernels, too, and surely give nvidia another try by ubuntu 18.04.2 or .3
[20:06] <tomreyn> well .2 should be enough
[20:07] <beta4_> sure I'll test from time to time, sooner or later support will improve
[20:07] <tomreyn> beta4_: and keep an eye on bios updates, too.
[20:12] <viju> tomreyn: yes I am running ubuntu and have xfce/lubuntu
[20:13] <viju> But it froze in ubuntu/unity as well
[20:15] <rooik> Hey, i need a help: with nvidia drivers i get black screen when starting the DM, and in dmesg i get this error: https://goo.gl/z1CzhJ .i have primus setup if it can help to understand my issue
[20:15] <tomreyn> viju: then i guess it's not bug 1615286
[20:17] <Volund> oh my goobiloo
[20:17] <rooik> Anyone can help me? Because i cant even login with those drivers
[20:17] <Volund> so I have this issue where in order to boot, I need to edit the boot options by adding 'nomodeset'
[20:17] <tomreyn> viju: logs are ~/.xsession-errors.log* /var/log/Xorg.*.log  /var/log/syslog and the output generated by dmesg -T
[20:18] <Volund> this issue has existed for over a year and nobody's fixed it yet? @_@
[20:18] <Volund> (caused by having an NViDia card, I believe)
[20:18] <tomreyn> !details | rooik
[20:18] <tomreyn> !ask | Volund
[20:18] <rooik> Tomreyn: excuse me?
[20:19] <tomreyn> no
[20:20] <rooik> Uh?
[20:21] <Shun131> rooik You could write out the error message you see.
[20:21] <stephen875> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[20:22] <rooik> It's not just one line
[20:22] <Shun131> Then the major parts perhaps.
[20:23] <rooik> That he cant load nvidia module
[20:23] <Shun131> OK
[20:23] <rooik> OK
[20:23] <Shun131> Anything about your setup, other configuration could help.
[20:24] <rooik> Primus setup
[20:24] <Shun131> is that a server?
[20:27] <Shun131> Do you run Windows on the same hardware, and it works there?
[20:27] <rooik> ,no its not
[20:27] <rooik> Here is my x config: goo.gl/F9cfTL
[20:27] <Shun131> Don't wanna open a short url, sorry
[20:27] <rooik> Yes i also run windows 7
[20:28] <rooik> Just say you cant want to help me
[20:28] <compdoc> lol
[20:28] <Shun131> Short urls are dangerous
[20:28] <rooik> Without the 'want'
[20:28] <rooik> ...
[20:28] <Flannel> rooik: Rickrolls probably aren't the best way to get help.
[20:29] <Volund> oh holy crap it actually loaded up without needing to modify the grub boot line
[20:29] <rooik> Flannel why me?
[20:30] <rooik> 2 clicks LOL
[20:31] <Shun131> did you check for compatibility with your graphics card?
[20:31] <rooik> Yes
[20:31] <Shun131> Tried another Linux distro just to check?
[20:32] <rooik> No
[20:32] <Shun131> All settings left to defaults, unchanged?
[20:33] <rooik> No, if you could check the link you would see the X config
[20:33] <Flannel> Shun131: Don't bother with him.  Both of the links were rickrolls, he probably doesn't actually need help.
[20:33] <rooik> If you could chevk the link you would see the X config
[20:33] <Shun131> Flannel  Great :)
[20:33] <rooik> Is said
[20:34] <Flannel> rooik: You need to find a better hobby.
[20:34] <Shun131> So nobody who needs help packs their stuff in a short url anyway :)
[20:34] <rooik> ?
[20:34] <Flannel> Shun131: That's a pretty safe assumption
[20:34] <Shun131> thought so
[20:34] <Shun131> thanks
[20:35] <rooik> So, not being able to login is not a problem and i dont need help?
[20:35] <Flannel> Shun131: We had a lot of debate whether the short URLs in the topic were the best plan.  But there's just not that many characters available in topics.
[20:35] <Flannel> rooik: Correct.
[20:36] <Shun131> I trusted your short url :)
[20:36] <rooik> Flannel: so?
[20:36] <Flannel> Shun131: Sure, and we do too, but we didn't want to encourage the behavior.
[20:36] <Shun131> Yes, though that probably didn't come from your using it, it's all over the net, I guess.
[20:37] <Volund> so
[20:38] <Flannel> Shun131: Yeah, but URL Shortening is 100% harmful to the internet.
[20:38] <Shun131> We need safer web browsers :)
[20:38] <Volund> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Installation_without_X_.2F_from_the_console - I look at this, and attempt to sudo apt-get install nvidia-390 (which is what the command lists for me) but...
[20:38] <Shun131> ones that check urls before they can do any harm
[20:38] <Shun131> I agree
[20:38] <Volund> it's saying that there's nothing for that package, it's replaced by libnvidia-gl-390 nvidia-kernel-source-390:i386 nvidia-headless-no-dkms-390:i386 libnvidia-gl-390:i386 nvidia-kernel-source-390 nvidia-headless-no-dkms-390
[20:39] <Volund> what does this MEAN
[20:39] <Volund> How do I install my GTX 980ti drivers?
[20:43] <Volund> oh, had to add a PPA. woops
[20:44] <andirc5089> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[20:44] <andirc5089> "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
[20:53] <rekt_> Hey, i neel help with ubuntu, basically when i plug an usb it i cant find it in /dev/sd**. Here is my outpit of lsusb: https://goo.gl/t4muBi
[20:54] <granttrec> how can I get locale-gen in a chroot?
[20:55] <ossanez> Hello. Upgraded from 17.10 to latest this morning. Cannot get past the gdm screen on my usual account. Can log in as a new user, so I suppose it's something in my $HOME that's throwing Xorg off. I've alread mv'd .xinitrc and Gnome extensions. It's not those. Any ideas what ths might be?
[20:58] <Shmam> I'm trying to remove nouveau drivers and install the nvidia ones on 18.04 server. I added it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf but that didn't seem to work. Any ideas?
[21:05] <wfranken> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[21:06] <Shmam> wait what
[21:06] <Flannel> Shmam: It's just spam that's been making the rounds for the past few days.
[21:07] <Shmam> weird
[21:07] <Lantizia> i'm off to bed now... but if anyone here remembers using the ubuntu business desktop remix (based off 12.04) could you drop me a quick PM (you need to be identified with nickserv - due to all the spam going around)... thanks :)
[21:08] <Shmam> so uh anyone know how to actually remove the nouveau drivers?
 so, he wants the win. so we're just gonna get lunch or something, then hes gonna push me to the ground and tap my ass with his foot so he can claim he "kicked my ass" tbh im going along with it becase I dont wanna lose any teeth
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[21:12] <ahi2> Shmam, https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-disable-nouveau-nvidia-driver-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[21:12] <Shmam> jeez so much spam
[21:13] <Shmam> ahi2: ty, I'll take a look and hopefully that will work
[21:25] <ubuntu> XD
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[21:26] <Guest78> !14.04
[21:30] <lowkeycoat1> Recommended flavor of ubuntu for usb?
[21:32] <andaii> something keeps resetting my wacom settings. I disabled the gnome settings wacom plugin and it didn't help. I tried configuring it with Xorg, no dice. I added a startup script to run xsetwacom commands manually at login, this works but only for a few miliseconds before something resets it. I can run the script again after login and then it stays that way for the session. What's messing with the settings?
[21:32] <bobphalanx> Security-wise is there something I should do right away once I've installed Ubuntu Server 18.04?
[21:33] <somerset> Question: I want to have the same config, packages, etc. on my laptop as I have on my desktop. Is there something like Firefox Sync but for Ubuntu user accounts? Or is there another/better way to go about this?
[21:33] <bobphalanx> I've done apt update/upgrade, woops..
[21:34] <leftyfb> somerset: ansible. But nothing to keep things in sync. That doesn't sound very safe in fact
[21:34] <leftyfb> bobphalanx: as far as personal settings, you could maybe mount your /home from nfs
[21:34] <leftyfb> bobphalanx: but that would not be good if both were running at the same time
[21:35] <somerset> @leftyfb: yes, you're right about the security part. ideally, i'd only sync up over the local network, not through some 3rd party cloud service.
[21:35] <bobphalanx> hmm, not sure if I understood
[21:35] <leftyfb> bobphalanx: oops, those messages were meant for somerset
[21:36] <leftyfb> somerset: I wasn't talking in means of security, but of conflicts, locking, instability
[21:36] <somerset> oh ok
[21:36] <leftyfb> bobphalanx: as for your security, don't put it accessible on the internet until it's completely locked down
[21:36] <bobphalanx> It's not, just trying out on Virtualbox
[21:37] <leftyfb> bobphalanx: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/security.html.en https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-harden-ubuntu-server-16-04-security-in-five-steps/
[21:37] <bobphalanx> I will check them out, thanks
[21:37] <somerset> leftyfb: hmm. thank you for answering my q. guess I'll just have to re-do everything I did on my Desktop :)
[21:38] <bobphalanx> somerset: while youre at it maybe write down the commands for a script?
[21:38] <leftyfb> somerset: rsync will be good to copy over /home. But nothing to keep them in sync
[21:38] <leftyfb> ansible is great for this sort of thing
[21:38] <xerf> hey
[21:39] <somerset> that's a good idea bobphalanx, and i'll look into ansible, leftyfb, thanks
[21:57] <burzos> Why do I have to mount my flash drive before I can use it?
[21:59] <tomreyn> burzos: how are you using it?
[22:00] <Jordan_U> I'm having some trouble running a VM I created with virt-manager a while ago. I made /var/lib/libvirt/ a symlink to /btrfs_external/libvirt/ so that I could store the VM on my external drive. When I open virt-manager, no virtual machines are listed (but there is also no error message). I expect it's a permissions problem. Any ideas?
[22:00] <burzos> I want to save some files to it.
[22:02] <HellFire> Jordan_U: does `virsh list --all` in a terminal show it?
[22:03] <tomreyn> burzos: you can only save files to a file system. to access a file system, it must be mounted. now whether or not mounting needs to be done manually or can be an automated process, depends on various factors, including your ubuntu release, your desktop environment, your users' ACL group memberships.
[22:05] <burzos> But the file system exists on the USB drive even before I mount it.  What does the mount actually do?
[22:09] <tomreyn> burzos: it makes the file system accessible at an existing position on the existing directory tree
[22:10] <tomreyn> e.g. it's common to mount a file system to /mnt or /mnt/mymountpoint. once this has been done, the contents of this file system will be available at this location
[22:11] <burzos> It requires root, because oWhy do I have to be root in order to do the mount? (thanks for answering)
[22:12] <sogeking99> Hey guys what is the best LaTex editor on Linux?
[22:12] <sogeking99> I need to learn it
[22:12] <ryuo> burzos: root is required for arbitrary mounts that the system has not defined as being permissible for a non-root user to mount.
[22:13] <ryuo> burzos: But, removable media should not require this for most use cases.
[22:13] <burzos> Where does the system define which mounts require privilege?
[22:13] <kk4ewt> sogeking99,  whichever one works for you
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[22:14] <wgma> "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
[22:14] <kk4ewt> sogeking99,  try texstudio
[22:14] <kk4ewt> or lyx
[22:14] <ryuo> burzos: it's complicated, but it's basically anything not covered by /etc/fstab or something like udisks.
[22:16] <ryuo> burzos: Removable media is usually mountable as non-root if something like udisks is used.
[22:16] <sogeking99> Thanks kk4ewt
[22:16] <burzos> Ok, thanks for the help.
[22:16] <ryuo> burzos: these get mounted under /media/$USER/
[22:17] <ryuo> burzos: ok. you shouldn't need to do these manual mounts very often.
[22:17] <ryuo> burzos: i only need to use them as a power user. I imagine regular users will almost never need to.
[22:18] <burzos> udisks is privileged process that can mount whatever it wants?
[22:18] <sogeking99> kk4ewt: It says error: dependency not satisfiable libc6 (>= 2.27)
[22:18] <ryuo> burzos: I guess? I never looked at it that closely. I just know it's a framework that allows Linux desktop software to mount removable media as non-root.
[22:33] <metrum> Hello all! Can someone help me? My Software Center isn't working properly, and I don't know how to fix it.
[22:34] <burzos> What is your Software Center doing?
[22:36] <metrum> It opens correctly, but it only show the featured application and the editor's picks. The categories are missing.
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[22:37] <jmadero> is there not a PPA for Thunderbird 60?
[22:39] <kk4ewt> anyone with op if you use /mode  +q $~a  that disables spam showing (alos prohibits non-registered from having voice
[22:40] <tomreyn> jmadero: the latest stable release seesm to be Version 52.9.1
[22:40] <jmadero> tomreyn: I'd like to run version 60 which is in beta
[22:40] <jmadero> I'm surprised the beta PPA doesn't have it though
[22:40] <metrum> I don't see any ppa linked with thunderbird.
[22:40] <jmadero> https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/thunderbird-next
[22:40] <jmadero> super out of date
[22:40] <acuzio2> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[22:40] <acuzio2> "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
[22:41] <tigefa> use this link https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/60.0b9/
[22:42] <tomreyn> jmadero: i think there's a flatpak somewhere if you want something packaged instead
[22:44] <jmadero> tomreyn: thanks, I'm running it now - really surprised that the beta PPA is essentially stale
[22:45] <dos000> howdy ! anyone can help me figure how i can turn off the screen on a freshly installed ubuntu 18.04 server ?
[22:45] <dos000> i dont have x installed since its meant to be a server
[22:46] <dos000> and i dont want the screen to stay up o nthis old laptop
[22:52] <tomreyn> dos000: try: setterm -blank 10 -powerdown 15 (blank after 10, power down after 10 + 15 minutes)
[22:52] <tomreyn> dos000: try: setterm --blank 10 --powerdown 15 (blank after 10, power down after 10 + 15 minutes)
[22:52] <tomreyn> ^ typos fixed
[22:59] <Flannel> kk4ewt: +r is more ideal.  But as you said, it makes people have to register.  So it's a constant balancing act.
[23:03] <mbaggs> howdy all
[23:08] <fromBeyond> Hi, I cannot seem to set neovim as the SUDO_EDITOR. If i run 'env SUDO_EDITOR=nvim sudo -e fiename', it still opens it with nano. Also, the environment variable ha been set, for EDITOR and SUDO_EDITOR.
[23:11] <dos000> tomreyn: i dont want to powerdown i just want the screen off
[23:11] <fromBeyond> please not that the beaviour is the same, for any other editor, and that nvim has been added to the path
[23:11] <fromBeyond> note*
[23:11] <dos000> tomreyn: the machine is a laptop and its acting as my git repo
[23:11] <burzos> Are you using visudo?
[23:12] <dos000> `setterm -blank 10 setterm: terminal xterm-256color does not support --blank`
[23:13] <fromBeyond> burzos: how do you mean?
[23:14] <burzos> Set your environment variables, then do `sudo visudo`.
[23:15] <fromBeyond> it is opened by nano
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[23:16] <leftyfb> fromBeyond: sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[23:16] <leftyfb> fromBeyond: set it to "neovim".
[23:17] <fromBeyond> leftyfb: I tried this, but ti is not on the list
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[23:18] <fromBeyond> I see not, I should provide /usr/bin/editor by myself
[23:18] <fromBeyond> see now*
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[23:19] <leftyfb> fromBeyond: how did you install it?
[23:19] <fromBeyond> leftyfb: what exactly does it mean to "provide a /usr/editor?
[23:20] <fromBeyond> i installed from source i trhink
[23:20] <fromBeyond> from their git
[23:21] <leftyfb> fromBeyond: https://launchpad.net/~neovim-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/stable   # try installing from this PPA
[23:21] <fromBeyond> could it be because i installed to home directory?
[23:21] <leftyfb> fromBeyond: you really shouldn't install things from source. It almost never works out in your favor
[23:22] <fromBeyond> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jx83DtspxC/
[23:22] <leftyfb> fromBeyond: https://launchpad.net/~neovim-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/stable   # try installing from this PPA
[23:22] <fromBeyond> this is how i installed it. I make scripts, so I can reproduce (on th spectrum a bit, yes :) )
[23:22] <fromBeyond> yes, i will
[23:22] <leftyfb> fromBeyond: remove the one installed from source
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[23:24] <burzos> fromBeyond: Is this binary in your PATH?
[23:24] <fromBeyond> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jx83DtspxC/
[23:24] <fromBeyond> this is how i installed. On the bottom, I put it in my path
[23:25] <burzos> Then did you dot the zshrc file?
[23:25] <leftyfb> fromBeyond: we know. Undo it. Use the binaries from the PPA
[23:26] <burzos> Also, you probably don't want to use an editor in your home directory for modifying sudoers.
[23:27] <leftyfb> burzos: they are not trying to modify sudoers
[23:27] <leftyfb> burzos: they are trying to set "neovim" as the default editor for root/sudo. I gave already given the proper instructions for doing so
[23:27] <leftyfb> %s/gave/have/
[23:28] <burzos> Ok. The default editor for root/sudo should not live in your home directory.
[23:28] <burzos> Which your instructions would fix.
[23:28] <fromBeyond> burzos: please elaborate, so i will learn
[23:28] <fromBeyond> also, I will follow leftyfb instructions
[23:31] <burzos> Files in /home/fromBeyond are writeable by fromBeyond.  If there is a malicious program on your system running as fromBeyond, now it will be able to modify the editor used by the superuser.  For example the malicious program could replace the editor with a file that reads /etc/shadow and sends it to some remote server.
[23:32] <burzos> This is remedied by using an editor that is located in a directory path only writeable by the root user, for example /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin.
[23:33] <fromBeyond> burzos: I understand. Thank you
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[23:40] <fromBeyond> burzos: sorry for another question. Could I, in this situation move the binary from the instalation folder to the bin? Note that i took leftyfb advice, i am asking to learn
[23:42] <tigefa> fromBeyond with sudo make install ?
[23:42] <IntelCore> * Integrated-applet-complete does not work right on Bionic. I'm trying to get todg, the scripter to fix it.
[23:43] <fromBeyond> no, just moving the binary
[23:44] <IntelCore> the applet has worked since 2010, and allows you to access log-off/reset music, volume(pulse audio).. the gnome-control-center changed in Bionic
[23:44] <IntelCore> not many ppl have the applet, granted, but I like it
[23:46] <IntelCore> anyone use a docker with compiz in bionic?
[23:47] <Jordan_U> HellFire: No, no virtual machines are listed there either.
[23:49] <burzos> fromBeyond: Yes, generally `sudo make install` will do this for you.
[23:49] <burzos> The downside is that Ubuntu package manager doesn't know about the installation.
[23:50] <burzos> So it won't be able to tell you about updates or help with uninstallation.
[23:51] <aqd> how am I supposed to broadcast on local network so that other computers can have my MAC and IP in their ARP table?
[23:52] <aqd> ping ....255 doesn't work!
[23:52] <fromBeyond> burzos: sorry, I got lost. Lets say I want to install from source, and I have to manually specify an install directory. What should I specify in thic case? (usr/bin/nameOfProgam ?)
[23:52] <burzos> fromBeyond: It depends on the application and how you're going to use it.
[23:53] <burzos> fromBeyond: If you are just going to use the application as an unprivileged user, it's fine to stick it into /home/fromBeyond/bin.
[23:53] <CarlFK> fromBeyond: what is the app?
[23:53] <burzos> If privileged users are going to use it, it should go into /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin
[23:54] <burzos> The other point is how to go about moving the binary to the place you decide to put it at.
[23:54] <fromBeyond> burzos: why is there a comma? is it either, or both?
[23:54] <burzos> For programs using Makefiles (and usually the GNU build system), you can use `sudo make install` usually.
[23:54] <fromBeyond> in other words, does usr/bin contain only binaries or entire instalation folder
[23:54] <burzos> it's XOR
[23:54] <burzos> Only binaries, look at it.
[23:55] <tigefa> use linuxbrew for home user, learn it on docker. fromBeyond
[23:55] <fromBeyond> yes, this is why i asked. But where should i put th einstalation directory than?
[23:55] <tomreyn> aqd: ping -b broadcasts
[23:55] <burzos> There really isn't an "installation directory".
[23:55] <CarlFK> I like using ~/bin and putting a link to the binary.  (and hope it doesn't neeed libs and stuff)
[23:56] <fromBeyond> burzos: aaa, ok... so its only the binary01
[23:56] <burzos> When you build the software it creates 1 or more artificates: binaries, shared libraries, and config files usually.
[23:56] <fromBeyond> burzos: for some reason, I had the wrong idea, that there is also a directory where the things that the binary uses are
[23:56] <CarlFK> fromBeyond: what is the app?
[23:57] <fromBeyond> and was confused if this also has to go into the /ur/bin
[23:57] <fromBeyond> CarlFK: I am asking questions, because I am a novice. No real application is to eb installed, I installed from the PPA
[23:57] <burzos> So, /usr/lib and /etc are places where applications have auxiliary files.
[23:59] <CarlFK> fromBeyond:  I would avoid all this until you have something that needs it, and then find out what to do
[23:59] <fromBeyond> CarlFK: well, I installed neovim from source, this is how this discussion got started.