| -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::platform:: installer: seed linux-udebs-snapdragon @ http://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/platform/commit/?id=a45e00c59174d5bce28f982ea717f494b9bb640a (by Adam Conrad) | 10:32 | |
| pmjdebruijn | is there any documentation on how the official xubuntu ISOs are generated? | 12:40 |
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| pmjdebruijn | I used to have a script of my own that wrapped around live-build, but now it's generating broken initrds | 12:47 |
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| pmjdebruijn | ubuntu-defaults-builder generates broken initrd's as well | 14:53 |
| pmjdebruijn | oh wait, the new iso no longer wants initrd.lz | 15:05 |
| ochosi | Unit193: btw, i've missed a bit in here but have you taken a look at the latest xfce4-session? | 17:58 |
| ochosi | seems like quite a few things should be fixed by now | 17:58 |
| ochosi | and i'm wondering if it makes sense to throw it in the experimental PPA so we can test it a little to decide if we wanna ship it or not | 17:59 |
| Unit193 | Not in the slightest. | 17:59 |
| ochosi | (although the default would be not shipping it, because that's what we committed to in the beginning of the cycle, i guess) | 17:59 |
| ochosi | xfwm4 4.13 finally seems to work ok for me | 18:01 |
| Unit193 | xfwm4 4.13 is always a 'for me' or 'not for me' type of deal. | 18:02 |
| ochosi | in which respect? you mean: works for some, doesn't for others? | 18:02 |
| Unit193 | yep. | 18:02 |
| ochosi | hmm, haven't heard many complaints about the latest release | 18:04 |
| ochosi | have you? | 18:04 |
| Unit193 | Haven't tested it since it was pretty flakey for me. | 18:04 |
| Unit193 | xfwm4 4.13.1-0ppa1~18.10 11 | 18:05 |
| Unit193 | xfwm4 4.13.1-0ppa1~18.04 44 | 18:05 |
| Unit193 | Surely someone might have said something, and not just downgraded... | 18:05 |
| bluesabre | Unit193, ochosi: gaston seemed to be having some issues with it earlier today on #xfce-dev | 21:41 |
| ochosi | crap, shouldn't have lost my connection | 21:44 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: xfwm4 or the session though? | 21:45 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: xfwm4, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Fy7TrBkgRq/ | 21:45 |
| ochosi | interesting | 21:46 |
| ochosi | anyway, runs stable enough for me to add the theming part ;) | 21:46 |
| ochosi | at least that one is fine | 21:47 |
| bluesabre | that's good :D | 21:47 |
| ochosi | and i hope i can add a hidpi theme for xfwm4 for 18.10 | 21:47 |
| ochosi | not sure if i'll make it in tim | 21:47 |
| ochosi | e | 21:47 |
| ochosi | but the basics are there now | 21:47 |
| bluesabre | that's with gtk scaling or a separate theme? | 21:47 |
| ochosi | separate theme | 21:51 |
| Unit193 | So, no xfwm then. | 21:51 |
| ochosi | the gtk scaling part is in gtk+ itself (headerbars) | 21:51 |
| ochosi | and the hidpi theme is an extra variant of greybird that goes with the x2 scaling of gtk+ and x11 | 21:52 |
| ochosi | ideally we'll try to be a little more intelligent about this in xfce in the future | 21:52 |
| ochosi | i.e. when you switch scaling factors it switches to a hidpi version of the theme | 21:53 |
| ochosi | but anyway, that would have to be discussed with olivier | 21:53 |
| ochosi | meanwhile i'll try to fix up the theme variant, that'll be needed in any case | 21:55 |
| bluesabre | maybe we'd have some 2x, 3x variants inside the xfwm4 theme folder | 21:55 |
| ochosi | exactly | 21:57 |
| ochosi | that would be the easiest and most straightforward solution | 21:57 |
| ochosi | same as with icon themes | 21:57 |
| bluesabre | mhm | 21:57 |
| ochosi | other than that i hope i'll get to some hacking this week | 21:58 |
| ochosi | do you know of any high-prio stuff i should take a look at? | 21:58 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: I pinged you several times, but you never came. :( | 21:59 |
| ochosi | (sorry, after two weeks of holidays i don't seem to remember a thing ;D) | 21:59 |
| ochosi | soooooorrry | 21:59 |
| * Unit193 pouts. | 21:59 | |
| * ochosi lures Unit193 out of his corner | 21:59 | |
| ochosi | anything in particular you pinged me about? | 22:00 |
| Unit193 | The icon theme transition being worked on by blue. | 22:00 |
| ochosi | ah, what's happening there exactly? | 22:00 |
| ochosi | anything i should contribute to? | 22:00 |
| Unit193 | Nah it's packaging stuff, but IIRC you were disinterested in using my new nice package, elementary-xfce-icon-theme since it ships svgs, and you're a fan of xubuntu-icon-theme's pngs? | 22:01 |
| ochosi | the main issue with svgs is that their less performant and they look smudgy in a lot of apps | 22:02 |
| bluesabre | technically the png theme is a downstream enhancement (part of the ubuntu packaging) | 22:02 |
| ochosi | what's the problem with including the svgtopng.c part in your nice package? | 22:02 |
| ochosi | yeah, that's what it is right now | 22:02 |
| ochosi | i don't mind including it upstream | 22:02 |
| ochosi | we can add a makefile there and the svgtopng crap | 22:02 |
| ochosi | if that helps you with harmonizing the situatio | 22:03 |
| ochosi | n | 22:03 |
| Unit193 | Mainly, svgs seem fairly normal to ship, I didn't want to complicate things too much, and xubuntu-icon-theme repacks upstream's source as pngs. | 22:03 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: My main point was that I didn't want to waste bluesabre's time if we were going to continue to use xubuntu-icon-theme. | 22:07 |
| bluesabre | what if we added the png-maker to upstream and the built png theme become the norm? | 22:09 |
| bluesabre | for both debian and ubuntu | 22:09 |
| Unit193 | If it is effortless on both our parts, sure? | 22:10 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: yup, i would also go that way | 22:48 |
| ochosi | if you wanna add a makefile and the svgtopng binary to the repo feel free to | 22:48 |
| ochosi | gotta get some sleep now | 22:48 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: alrighty, will see about doing that tonight/tomorrow | 22:59 |
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