[05:32] <EriC^^> morning all
[06:05] <Olivier[m]> Good morning
[06:26] <ducasse> good morning
[07:17] <Olivier[m]> Hey ducasse
[07:17] <Olivier[m]> How are you doing>
[07:17] <Olivier[m]> ?
[07:23] <ducasse> i'm ok thanks, and you?
[08:04] <Olivier[m]> Doing good here. Back from vacation.
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[09:37] <Olivier[m]> 👋
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> hey Olivier[m]
[09:40] <Olivier[m]> Hmm, did I loose my nick?
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> whats your nick?
[09:43] <oerheks> Lordievader \0/
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> ah, then yes you lost your nick
[09:46] <oerheks> how do we know you are the real olivier...
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> lol
[09:46] <oerheks> tell us the name of your favorite OS ..
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> haha
[09:52]  * lotuspsychje looks out the windows
[09:58] <Olivier[m]> OS or distro?
[10:49] <BluesKaj> HI folks
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> hey there BluesKaj
[11:29] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> hey pragmaticenigma
[11:45] <pragmaticenigma> yo
[13:30] <EriC^^> afternoon all
[16:50] <leftyfb> lol
[16:50] <leftyfb> "someone_"
[16:50] <leftyfb> just keeps going
[16:51] <acheronuk> in #kubuntu now :/
[16:51] <pragmaticenigma> rookie mistake ... i'm so ashamed of doing that
[16:52]  * leftyfb sigh
[16:52] <leftyfb> this 18.04 rollout is not going good
[16:52] <acheronuk> not good?
[16:52] <leftyfb> with the constant video issues along with not being fully available to 16.04 users 4 months after release
[16:52] <acheronuk> pragmaticenigma: haha. easy done
[16:53] <pragmaticenigma> did someone_ post the exact same question in #kubuntu
[16:54]  * acheronuk scrolls back in #ubuntu
[16:54] <BluesKaj> yes he did
[16:54] <pragmaticenigma> did anyone call out the no-no's on cross posting?
[16:54] <acheronuk> yep
[16:55] <acheronuk> not yet
[16:55] <pragmaticenigma> well he found someone to "help" him... going to leave it alone
[16:56] <leftyfb> I didn't :)
[16:56] <pragmaticenigma> has there been any motion on when LTS-to-LTS will be released?
[16:57] <BluesKaj> leftyfb, just repeated his refusal in #kubuntu
[16:57] <acheronuk> meeting the other day kicked it down the road a short while
[16:57] <pragmaticenigma> Thanks leftyfb ... your brass is better than mine
[17:01] <acheronuk> pragmaticenigma: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2018/08/02/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t15:28
[17:06] <pragmaticenigma> thanks acheronuk
[17:07] <acheronuk> maybe a chance of it being enable this week, but I would not put much money on it, especially if it gets later in the week with no action
[17:13] <leftyfb> java "developer", that explains it
[17:17] <pragmaticenigma> I think we just pwnd him... he's speechless
[17:20]  * acheronuk chokes
[17:23] <pragmaticenigma> my feeling on the topic is, we're here to help to the best of our ability. but when a person goes off on random websites looking for strange solutions that haven't seen a lot of traffic. they are beyond our capabilities.
[17:23] <pragmaticenigma> also, who didn't know that you can back up the home directory, or ideally run it on a separate partition, and recover all your customizations when you fresh install and mount the /home in place
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[18:12] <TJ-> g'evening lotuspsychje :)
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> hey there TJ-
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> !info plaso
[18:41] <TJ-> The new Thunderbird 60 is looking and feeling good
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> !info thunderbird cosmic
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> on snap TJ- ?
[18:43] <daftykins> import and export is a joke
[18:43] <daftykins> also you can't just start it up and start manipulating local archives, it demands an account be added
[18:43] <daftykins> this was very annoying to me the other day :)
[18:43] <TJ-> No, I don't touch snaps!
[18:43] <TJ-> Direct from thunderbird.net
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> kk
[18:44] <TJ-> daftykins: local archives? that's not what it's designed to do though
[18:45] <daftykins> that's not an excuse :) there should be a "no mail setup right now please" option like most clients have :D
[18:45] <daftykins> er local folders maybe, i forget how it phrases the local mail store
[18:46] <daftykins> and no decent import/export is pretty criminal
[18:48] <TJ-> It has Tools/Import... and in the releas notes says it now also supports conversion from mailbox to MailDir and so on
[18:49] <daftykins> distinctly lacked anything useful for me when i was in it last
[18:49] <daftykins> (definitely the alpha/beta of 60)
[18:53] <TJ-> I just noticed my linux IMAP4 directory has 280,000 messages in it
[18:53] <daftykins> time to go on a purging spree :D
[18:54] <TJ-> Yup! I don't need to sync all those from the server for sure
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> !info plaso cosmic
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> tnx for the back pragmaticenigma
[19:05] <pragmaticenigma> yw lotuspsychje ... I figured that was what they were digging for
[19:31] <leftyfb> I love these ones
[19:32] <leftyfb> he's going to argue till he's blue in the face that his drive either isn't bad or there MUST be something else we can do
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> leftyfb: :p
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> maybe we can setup a crowdfunding for him?
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: perhaps poke pici for a reload
[19:37] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: I claim 1st dibs on crowdfunding -  for a Ryzen7 .
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> i think its oerheks thats mysteriously donated 1m $
[19:41] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: no, it's been removed from the archives in favour of c3
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> ah
[19:50] <pragmaticenigma> Oh TJ- you're in for a treat
[19:51] <pragmaticenigma> i wish you luck
[19:51] <lotuspsychje> its a comming back user too
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1t5dzD39pBvDxmefm6A-dQpEj8EvEnpBB/view
[19:52] <pragmaticenigma> yeah... TJ- they've been in here for a few weeks now with that issue
[19:52] <TJ-> it could be due to knocking the PC, cable moved, connector moved. I've had PCs die like that through simple vibration from fans. reconnect securely, or push the connectors in/out a few times to clean the contacts, and they're fine again. So it's worth checking
[19:58] <lotuspsychje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1718653
[19:58] <lotuspsychje> new update heh
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> artful is eol lol
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> a bug delete feature would be nice
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> so the creator can wipe it too == less painfull work
[20:05] <TJ-> better would be new Status option of "Obsolete" or better "EOL"
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> but eol, would this still be usefull for the future?
[20:08] <lotuspsychje> anyway nap time here
[20:08] <lotuspsychje> ttyl guys
[21:45] <TJ-> tomreyn: bluesabre is going to SRU xfce4-settings into bionic-proposed, so keep an eye out and do an SRU verification in the bug report when it appears and you've tested it please
[21:53] <tomreyn> TJ-: than you, and bluesabre :) will watch
[23:42] <tomreyn> TJ-: it's now set to 'fix released' for bionic. to make sure i get this right - i don't need to do anything, yet, but nly after the SRU update was initiated?
[23:43] <TJ-> it should be in -proposed if they've made it fix released
[23:43] <TJ-> try apt-cache policy xfce4-settings
[23:43] <tomreyn> ok, but i can't use the bionic package on xenial, right?
[23:43] <tomreyn> due to dependencies
[23:44] <tomreyn> i could try to reproduce it on bionic and see whether the proposed packaage fixes it there
[23:44] <TJ-> it's supposed to be bionic-proposed ... has it been released for something else?
[23:44] <tomreyn> no it hasnt
[23:45] <tomreyn> but i only saw the bug on xenial, am not running bionic, yet
[23:45] <TJ-> tomreyn: oh, I see what you mean. There's a task for xenial
[23:45] <TJ-> but as bionic doesn't suffer it he's marked it fix released :)
[23:47] <tomreyn> oh ok
[23:47] <tomreyn> makes sense
[23:47] <tomreyn> so i'll just wait