 (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/IAL1wVCt.png
 Native vnc :D
 👏👏👏
 @mariogrip, I like this
 @mariogrip, Awesome
 https://lubuntu.me/this-week-in-lubuntu-development-8/ so now @ubports supporting lubuntu?
 Any more official statement from @mariogrip @Flohack @neothethird or @UniversalSuperBox
 they probally benifit from qt work
 is FLAC supported?
 @Javacookies, On . . .?
 I'm going to assume you mean in the UT Music app and I'll answer with yes. That was all I used until I had 10+ GB of music and decided to switch to OGG (which is also supported)
 yeah, that's what I meant … thanks
 @Javacookies, No problem 👍
 I never used FLAC but yesterday I listened to physical album and I suddenly thought, wow! this sounds so much better than my mp3s 😍
 cheers!can any1 in here assist me on how to find a connected phone under win10?as i have not used win for ages?phone gets recognized and listed under adb devices,but how can i put files like zips onto it?
 open the file browser and I believe it's under My PC
 there is devices and drives,but only showing local drice,which is C:.can it be due to ubuntu touch,that it is not being shown there?when pressing the window button + i,the device is being listed under bacon,but i have not found a way to access the phone yet to put zips there for flashing roms with TWRP.do i have to flash TW
[05:30] <ubptgbot> RP first,so that i can acces it under windows?
 i am planning on installing TWRP to flash another rom,instead of UT,which is currently running on my OPO
 but i will need to acces it,so that i can put the required zips to the phone from computer
 @technicalbird, Not at this time :)
[05:36] <ubptgbot> buYbaKTR17 was added by: buYbaKTR17
 can the phone running UT be accessed for let me say saving media like photos and stuff?if so,how??under win10
 You can use the app "Wifi transfer", so you can send your files even without a cable.
 But for TWRP-images? That won't work I fear...
 You need to flash them I guess?
 thanx for chimeing in dave.i have no problem sending adb commands to the phone,it gets listed under adb just fine.i sent it to fastboot mode,now.that is all fine.i just search for the option to acces the phone like a drive,as if it was usb stick,so that i can at least save photos or stuff from the phone and put zips onto it
[05:50] <ubptgbot> .on linux that was never problem,but i am on a win10machine now,and have no clue,where to find the connected phone as a drive..
 i can flash TWRP also,i think that would be no problem,but will the phone show up as a adrive then,so that i could put zips onto it for flashing roms???
 Try Wifi transfer and access the phone via file browser.
 (Windows Explorer)
 how can i acces the phone via file browser?this is what i am looking for
 @signalaficionado, Did you set a passcode! Normally the phone should appear as MTP device
 I dont know win 10 but in win 7 it works
 i set a passcode under UT,as i am forced to,when willing to access dev mode
 Phone needs to ne unlocked to access files then, but empty window should appear every time you connect it
 the only thing i wanna do is accessing the phone.that is all.everything else i can handle alone,from using adb and flashing stuff.have not pulled the trigger yet on flashing TWRP.so phone is still on UT.as i want to make sure i can access it prior to flashing anything else
 Sure. I just can say it work for me for Linux and Win7
 yeah win7 was easy.aswell as linux.same for me.but since i am on a friends machine for the time being,i can only operate with his win10.my problem is that it just does not appear,where it should.usually it appers next to the hard drive in the file explorer,just if a usb  stick was connected,that is how it was supposed to be
[06:31] <ubptgbot>  on win7,but in my case it does not under win10,while i can acess it and send commands through adb without any problems.nevermind!i will give up for now,get some sleep,and maybe try again in a couple hours.thanx for now florian,dave and kugi.thank you all for assistance,anyway.ill get some rest and give it a shot later on!
[07:29] <ubptgbot> bjNIhKAP57 was added by: bjNIhKAP57
 @signalaficionado, Hi Bruno, I've had a similar problem with N5, 16.04dev, opensuse15....I just 'revoke adb authorisations' with UTtweaks every time I connect and it then allows me access to the storage folders....hth
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 78385985
 @technicalbird, Like...?
 Like UBports merge With Kubuntu...
 with Lubuntu
 Damned corrector...
 No, We both use qt etc so we work together on those parts. also many of the qt packaging is done by simon and we have hired simon to do qt packaging and unity8 packaging for debian/ubuntu that will then benefit us and lubuntu alike.
 Great
 But the message is a bit reduced in their announcement: We are not funding *all* parts of Lubuntu ;)
 true, we are funding the qt part, so kubuntu will also benefit from it
 Good to see the smart use of donations
 Congrats
 hi, how do you install qt5 in ubuntu 16.04? …  I have the repo installed. repo.ubports.com
 Im trying to install qt5-qmake but I´m facing dependency problems
[12:27] <ubptgbot> Сергій Усик was added by: Сергій Усик
[12:27] <ubptgbot> <Сергій Усик> can I install Ubuntu Touch into Fly FS551
 I managed to install multirom <Ubuntu Touch + Android (AOSP Extended Rom) on a OnePlus One. … The author of the video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YegM4yADsqE) answered me. I merged his guide with my experience and some links to help with the process … If someone is interested (just tested on OnePlus One) … 0. BACKUP DATA!!!!!
[12:27] <ubptgbot> ! … 1. Flash Multirom TWRP v3.1.1 - https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=817550096634785267 … 2. Wipe device (system, data, cache... everything) … 3. Install ROM (AOSP Extended in my case) - https://downloads.aospextended.com/bacon … 4. Install opengapps for android 8.1 - https://opengapps.org/ … 5. Boot and setup android system … 6. Reboot to reco
[12:27] <ubptgbot> very and flash multirom 33e - https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=385035244224404012 … 7. Reboot to android and install multirom apk﻿ - https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/vojtech-bocek/multirom-manager/ … 8. Open Multirom app and install Ubuntu Touch. … 9. Wait until the scripts finish … Now, everytime that you boot your OnePlus One, MultiRom will ask
[12:27] <ubptgbot> you what system (android or Ubuntu) you want to boot. … @Javacookies @UniversalSuperBox
 [Edit] I managed to install multirom <Ubuntu Touch + Android (AOSP Extended Rom) on a OnePlus One. … The author of the video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YegM4yADsqE) answered me. I merged his guide with my experience and some links to help with the process … If someone is interested (just tested on OnePlus One) … 0. BACKUP DA
[12:29] <ubptgbot> TA!!!!!! … 1. Flash Multirom TWRP v3.1.1 - https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=817550096634785267 … 2. Wipe device (system, data, cache... everything) … 3. Install ROM (AOSP Extended in my case) - https://downloads.aospextended.com/bacon … 4. Install opengapps for android 8.1 - https://opengapps.org/ … 5. Boot and setup android system … 6. Reboot
[12:29] <ubptgbot> to recovery and flash multirom 33e - https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=385035244224404012 … 7. Reboot to android and install multirom apk﻿ - https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/vojtech-bocek/multirom-manager/ … 8. Open Multirom app and install Ubuntu Touch. … 9. Wait until the scripts finish … Now, everytime that you boot your OnePlus One, MultiRom wi
[12:29] <ubptgbot> ll ask you what system (android or Ubuntu) you want to boot. … @Javacookies @UniversalSuperBox
 I think, you should've just posted the full instructions in the forum instead 😜
 anyway, may I know what was different than before?
 have you figured out your issue with the kernel?
 @Javacookies, Yeah! I should haha
 @Javacookies, I changed my rom with a full wipe. … From LineageOS to AOSP Extended
 Maybe was LineageOS por just my rubbish data
 could actually be caf issues - lineage used to be CAF based
 @rogieroudshoorn, CAF? 😨
 Yeah, everyone's favorite android fork with special headers
 @rogieroudshoorn, Only on 7.1. Won't affect the current devices.
 CAF = cough
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 @dohbee, Anyone had time to think about this?
 There's really no way to use convergence with the OP1? No wireless display stuff? ETc?
 [Edit] There's really no way to use convergence with the OP1? No wireless display stuff? Etc?
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DisplayCasting
 hmm
 It was working for these devices, so may it indeed work for the OP1 now? If not that seems a bit.. overlooked.
 making wireless display work on more devices hasn't been a focus. getting devices onto 16.04 with as little breakage as possible, has been the focus
 also, not all devices can necessarily support wireless display
 Sure, that's admirable.
 But I do definitely feel sad about a nexus being able to do convergence, but not my OP1.
 [Edit] But I do definitely feel sad about a nexus 5 being able to do convergence, but not my OP1.
 I mean, how hard can it be, do you think it'd be easy to figure out on my own? Or does it really require development?
 well, it's not our fault that OnePlus didn't enable slimport or mhl on it :)
 i don't know. are you running ubuntu on the device yet? do you have a known working miracast adapter for your screen?
 No, and no. But yes and yes soon.
 Convergence is the feature I want to play with most, so I won't bother until I get a miracast adapter.
 i don't know if anyone else has tried it on the op1
 I mean, is a chromecast ultra a working adapter?
 detecting the miracast devices already works but it's usually stuck to "connecting"
 at least that's my expierience with nexus 5 and 7
 i don't know if anyone's tested with a chromecast
 chromecast is not miracast though
 Yeah it's proprietary miracast, lol
 so say I get the microsoft miracast adapter v2, known working for other devices, there's at least a chance it'll work out of the box?
 i mean, if miracast works under android on the device, it's certainly possible it could work under UT
 it does indeed
 but what I'm asking is whether convergence would treat miracast as a display output?
 and actually do the switching of modes
 an external display is an external display, yes
 from phone UI to desktop
 that's why miracast exists on UT
 huh, and I can use my phone as a secondary display too?
 it was added specifically because the Pro 5 doesn't have MHL/SlimPort
 wicked
 no your phone will i think let you use it as a touchpad to control the cursor on the external display
 huh neat
 at least, unity 8 currently only supports 2 displays (internal, and 1 external), and the internal display becomes a virtual trackpad
 so just grab a bluetooth keyboard and it's good to go
 you will probably want to use a usb keyboard and/or mouse, with miracast
 do you know of any bluetooth keyboards that use a trackpoint instead of a trackpad?
 bluetooth + miracast will have interference, plus the lagginess of wireless display
 @MatthewCroughan, only lenovo has trackpoint keyboards, i think they make a bt keyboard
 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-Thinkpad-Tablet-Bluetooth-Keyboard/dp/B00DTNWRYM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1533654802&sr=8-1&keywords=trackpoint+bluetooth
 yeah, a very expensive one
 hmm
 I'll just use synergy lol
 you can't use synergy
 for why?
 there's arm builds
 synergy doesn't support Mir
 We're thinking of the same software right? the input sharing software?
 yes
 and it doesn't support Mir
 Why would it care? All it needs is a daemon on the system?
 also, it doesn't really support Ubuntu
 has in my experience, hmm
 because the graphical display system is Mir
 ah okay, so miracast is completely different in every possible way, that sucks
 ok, well the proprietary version doesn't support Ubuntu really
 no it has nothing to do with miracast
 Oh, you're just saying synergy doesn't work with Mir, which is something I'm unaware of, which sounds like it'd be a part of Miracast but isn't, lol.
 it has to do wth the fact that UT does not run on X11, it runs on Mir
 Mir is the display server
 and it also has nothing to do with miracast
 Right, and what's different about Mir from X11 briefly that made it the choice for UBT?
 the name comes from the space station
 that's a big plus
 security and performance
 yeah x11 security was revealed to me recently
 scary lol
 can interact with anybody's processes, just crazy.
 synergy might be usable in the future though, as it does support wayland, and newer Mir supports Wayland clients. but i've not tried it
 i don't know if the open source synergy supports Wayland though
[15:22] <ubptgbot> <Holger Müller> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
[15:22] <ubptgbot> <Holger Müller> Sorry, may hand was on the right corner of the keyboard....😅
 👍
 @dohbee, I've not had occasion to use it recently. But I think I saw recently that synergy doesn't support Wayland yet, and (with 18.04 defaulting to X11) is in no hurry to do so.
 @alan_griffiths, It's listed on the roadmap, but indeed it seems they do not support it yet.
 @NikosChat, Nah that's silly talk, MSFT standardized their platform since 2012, only problem is that Android OEMs never bothered to do the same, ARMv8 supports uefi and acpi, you can boot a mainline kernel on a Lumia 950
 Linux on ARMv8*
 @samzn, It would be interesting to port UT to the 950 🤔
 lol
 @samzn, what works though, besides booting it?
 i agree with fabio
 and why go so far back to comment on something that old anyway
 but i suppose halium should be ported first :P
 (also really annoying that telegram doesn't have dates in the timestamps for messages)
 maybe i should try porting to lumia 920 hehehe
 or at least date markers when days change
 yeah annoying
 @Fuseteam, that would mean porting android first
 date markers is the least they could do
 but hey halium is android in a way hehe
 if you really can use all open drivers on the device, you don't need halium
 oh my
 that's what it means to boot a mainline kernel huh 💭
 and if you can't, well halium is going to be problematic anyway, since there likely aren't drivers available for a linux kernel
 well run on. booting and not having anything work is pretty easy
 hehe true the real battle is getting things to work
 @dohbee, on tdesktop you can hover your mouse over the timestamp to get the date
 oh
 but not on web :<
 Guys this is strange. I'm trying to save a modified file on my Pro 5 with an 'adb shell' session using 'nano' but apparently I'm not able to. To be clear, I made the image writable with '''sudo mount -o rw,remount /'''. I thought that were a file permission issue, so I tryed to write and save a new file from scratch in the /Docume
[17:10] <ubptgbot> nts folder but nothing. Are you aware of any problem with nano itself or it's only me to be mistaken? Thanks
 (Photo, 732x441) https://irc.ubports.com/021eKVqe.png here is where I'm stuck. Pressing 'return' doesn't work
 well, i don't know the exact error
 what is your current working directory?
 you mean `~/Documents`?
 yes that the one
 because `/Documents` doesn't exist, and you would need to be root to create it
 sorry, my bad
 well quit nano and try `touch newfile`
 it creates the file but then.....how to modify that?
 `nano newfile` ?
 so if you can create a file with `touch` it's not a permissions problem
 ok but that's the point...in the end I'm not able to save the file once modified with nano
 and you can of course create new files
 well did you try again?
 yes I did
 ok i don't know what the problem with nano is then
 does it not give an error?
 no nothing...I type CTRL+O to write and save and then I press 'return' to confirm the file name but it just seems not having effect
 is nano installed by default?
 yes
 does `vi` work for you instead? have you tried just rebooting?
 are you sure you saved the file in nano? I remember having a problem with nano where it doesn't recognize my input to save my file or something like that
 I also tried vi but I'm not very skilled and I don't know the commands.....rebooting yes, several times
 @Javacookies, mmmmh what do you mean? I type 'sudo nano my-file' in a folder then my-file is correctly opened in nano, then I modify it and either I press ^X to exit and save or ^O to overwrite and save...Maybe I'm wrong with those commands? I don't know since I always preferred gedit in ubuntu and using nano is quite new to
[17:25] <ubptgbot>  me
 it's probably an issue with adb shell not being a complete and proper terminal shell
 use ssh instead?
 @dohbee, do you mean that if I use the phone terminal I should make it work?
 @mattbel10, if you use terminal app it should work i think, yes. i meant though if you want to do it from your PC, you should use ssh to connect to the phone instead. if you grab the `phablet-shell` script in the list of files shared to the group, you can run it, and it will set up an ssh session over adb
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/QHJ1zqfw.null
 this script
 @dohbee, aaaah right, thank you Rodney, I will try as per your suggestion. I think I already have the phablet-shell installed....:)
 sorry I can't exatly remember, but yeah, try out what he said :)
 either way worked :) Thanks @dohbee and @Javacookies for the support. So it's confirmed adb shell is not as powerful as running the terminal directly on the phone and by phablet-shell
 [Edit] either way it worked :) Thanks @dohbee and @Javacookies for the support. So it's confirmed adb shell is not as powerful as running the terminal directly on the phone and by phablet-shell
 [Edit] either way it worked :) Thanks @dohbee and @Javacookies for the support. So it's confirmed adb shell is not as powerful as running the terminal directly on the phone and against phablet-shell
 [Edit] either way it worked :) Thanks @dohbee and @Javacookies for the support. So it's confirmed adb shell is not as powerful as running the terminal directly on the phone or against phablet-shell
 If anyone is interested, I'm selling my Nexus 5 with UbuntuTouch installed. Excellent condition: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nexus-5-D821-16GB-Black-Unlocked-Smartphone-Ubuntu-Touch/232878258702
 oh my 👀
 someone should make a business
 out of this
 Is any progress being made on the oneplus 5?
 Or will there ever be overall device coverage?
 @MatthewCroughan, what do you mean under overall?
 but I think @mariogrip had it, so once more important tasks (like OTA4) are done, there is a chance
 yeah once OTA4 is out, we will spawn the edge channel that will have new libhybris etc, then oneplus 5/t will have a big chance to be once of the devices that can run there
 Hmm, I should write the proposal for the edge channel shouldn't I...