[04:33] it'd be nice if gnome-shell didn't hang when pulse hangs [06:34] good morning desktoppers [06:40] Morning oSoMoN [06:40] hey duflu === pstolowski|afk is now known as pstolowski [07:46] good morning desktopers [07:46] hey duflu oSoMoN, how are you today? [07:46] hi seb128 [07:47] Hey seb128. A bit unwell but I aim to remedy that with some boringly healthy cooking in a few hours... How are you? [07:49] :( [07:49] I'm good, looking forward having the heat wave going away tonight though! [07:49] hey jamesh, how are you? [07:49] So tonight is the night? [07:49] should be! [07:51] seb128: good. I think I got the last deadlock in the pulseaudio/snap policy module working. It's a shame I couldn't just do glib main loop stuff in the main thread in pulse. [07:54] ah, nice [07:54] what was the issue with doing that? [07:55] pulse has its own main loop and doesn't want you doing blocking work. snapd-glib relies on the glib main loop [07:57] so I have two threads running different main loops. I submit jobs to the glib one via g_main_context_invoke(), then get results back via PulseAudio's asnc queue type [07:58] it all seems to be working now though, so that's good. [08:00] morning hang [08:00] gang [08:00] Today I shall order a new keyboard [08:00] Any recommendations for a mechanical one which costs less than 30 quid? [08:00] If such a thing exists [08:01] ah, good [08:01] hey willcooke [08:01] ruh roh [08:01] hey seb128 [08:01] Lots of freenode spam going on still I see [08:01] hey [08:01] moin Laney [08:01] willcooke, going for a cheap keyboard, not a fancy ergonomic one that preserve your wrists&co? ;) [08:02] hey Laney [08:02] sup willcooke seb128 [08:02] seb128, trying to find a keyboard where the key spacing is what my fingers expect. This one makes me angry and I keep mashing the wrong keys [08:02] remap alt to be space or something :p [08:03] problem solved! [08:03] Laney, 34°C forecasted today, another of those day and then winter is coming [08:03] It isn't a mechanical keyboard, but the ThinkPad Compact USB Keyboard is nice [08:03] especially if that's what you've grown to expect on your laptop [08:04] +1 for the thinkpad keyboard, and it prevents wrist and shoulder pain caused by a mouse [08:05] I find it bounces a bit if you use the feet at the back, but flat against the table it is really nice [08:06] yowzer, those are expensive [08:06] Why are keyboards so expensive now [08:06] You used to be able to buy a decent one for 20 quid [08:06] now they're 80 [08:06] Morning willcooke, Laney, jibel [08:06] think of it this way: you don't have to buy a mouse if you get the ThinkPad keyboard :) [08:06] * willcooke . o O ( Things were better in the olden days ) [08:07] hi duflu [08:07] willcooke, the thinkpad keyboard is around 50€ [08:07] jamesh, the same keyboard came to mind for me, but the model with the keyboard from the X220 is no longer produced, and sells for a fortunte on ebay (last I checked) [08:07] hey seb128, I'm not too bad, thanks, you? [08:07] ahh, x220 keyboard was lovely [08:07] hey willcooke, Laney, jibel [08:07] oSoMoN, I'm good, thanks [08:07] morning oSoMoN [08:08] willcooke, I know that in pounds it's expensive ;P [08:08] willcooke, yeah you can get it in USB form... if you look really hard [08:09] wow. It's selling for AU$184 on Amazon.com.au: that's more than double what I paid [08:09] 62€ on lenovo.fr [08:10] ah. It's AU$72 on lenovo.com.au [08:12] which is approximately 46 Euros. I guess the extra 16 euros are to move all the key caps around? [08:12] and extra ink for accentuated keys [08:14] seb128: unlucky [08:14] supposed to be 27 today then around 22 for some time [08:14] Rain tonight mayeb \o/ [08:15] hey oSoMoN & duflu & jamesh too [08:15] willcooke: you wish [08:16] haha [08:16] I have two of the older thinkpad usb keyboards to match with the old thinkpads, but now with t470s as my main laptop I'd say the new kbd layout isn't too bad, and the feel is the same, meaning just great [08:16] well worth the money [08:16] the hotel I was in in Hsinchu just emailed me: "We found a toy you left in your room after you checked out." [08:16] Look at thigs thing!! https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mechanical-Keyboard-Anti-Ghosting-Customizable-Aluminium/dp/B01J71GZMO/ref=sr_1_15?s=computers&rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1533629752&sr=1-15&refinements=p_76%3A419158031 [08:16] Laney, winter is a bit overstating it, it's more 20°C and showers from then on [08:16] I left them one of the foam Debconf turtles in the safe [08:16] as a surprise / gift [08:16] 😭 [08:17] :(( [08:17] bad luck Laney [08:17] they offer to fedex it back to me [08:17] "no thanks, please ejoy it" [08:18] I love it that you put them in the safe [08:18] nice from them [08:18] well, for some £££ and a service fee [08:22] ah ok, I though they would pay for it :p [08:22] normal business then! [08:25] this is what I need: http://blog.tynemouthsoftware.co.uk/2014/09/bbc-micro-usb-keyboard.html [08:33] fossfreedom: will you cry if I upload budgie-desktop? [08:33] a few rough edges in the middle of a cycle... not so bad?!?!?!?! [11:02] how come we have a delta in gdm to rename the user/group? [11:58] Laney, related to t_jaalton's nvidia fix? [11:58] nah, it's old [12:05] Laney, we had gdm 3.n as "gdm" in Ubuntu so I guess it didn't make sense to rename the group back then [12:06] unsure why Debian is not using standard "gdm" now === pstolowski is now known as pstolowski|lunch [12:16] Laney, gdm has been removed from Debian in 2011, it would probably make sense to rename the source from gdm3 to gdm now in Debian (&Ubuntu) [12:17] libxcursor security update... i guess i'll be rebuilding a pile of snaps today! [12:19] hey kenvandine [12:19] those emails notifications are useful! [12:20] they really are [12:20] i love it! [12:24] this reminds me I have a ton of snaps to rebuild, too [12:25] a ton not as in "many snaps", but as in "a couple of very heavy snaps" [12:25] hah! I had to do 27 :) [12:26] However, I wrote a script which magically does it for me. Checks out each project, touches a file, which triggers a rebuild. Works great for projects hooked up to build.snapcraft.io :) === andyrock_ is now known as andyrock [12:44] oSoMoN, hi, this one seems important https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice-l10n/+bug/1785795 [12:44] Ubuntu bug 1785795 in libreoffice-l10n (Ubuntu) "libreoffice-l10n-el does not create the folder autotext/el" [Undecided,New] [12:45] ricotz, yes, just saw it pass by, I'll take a look (unless you want to take it) [12:45] seems to be an upstream buildsystem issue which doesnt create those empty folders on buildtime [12:45] resulting in e.g. "ls: cannot access '/<>/instdir/share/autotext/el': No such file or directory" in the buildlog [12:47] it isn't easy to spot problems in libreoffice's buildsystem :\ [12:47] no it isn't === meetingology` is now known as meetingology === pstolowski|lunch is now known as pstolowski [13:06] oSoMoN, I will try something [13:19] ricotz, ack, thanks [13:30] meeting time! [13:31] #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-07 [13:31] Meeting started Tue Aug 7 13:31:00 2018 UTC. The chair is kenvandine. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [13:31] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-07 | Current topic: [13:31] 👋 [13:31] Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel, heber, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) [13:31] hey [13:31] o/ [13:32] ok, let's get started [13:32] #topic andyrock === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-07 | Current topic: andyrock [13:33] hey all [13:33] - Gnome-initial-setup: [13:33] * upload 3.29.1 to experimental [13:33] * Rebased ubuntu-welcome on top of gnome-intial-setup master (atm https://gitlab.gnome.org/azzaronea/gnome-initial-setup/commits/ubuntu-welcome) [13:33] - Issue https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/issues/68 [13:33] * Updated MR to fix corner-case issues (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/169) [13:33] - Bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1785240 [13:33] * Proposed MR upstream (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/merge_requests/76) [13:33] - Issue https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/109: [13:33] * Updated MR after review (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/162) [13:33] Ubuntu bug 1785240 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Cancelling snapd authorization triggers error notification" [Low,In progress] [13:33] - Gnome-calcualtor: [13:33] * MRs to upload 3.29.90 to debian experimental [13:33] - File-roller: [13:33] * MRs to upload 3.29.90 to debian experimental [13:33] - Gnome-disk-utility [13:33] * MRs to upload 3.28.3 to debian unstable [13:33] - Gnome-software [13:33] * Investigated the feasibility of writing a new plugin for dash-to-dock integration (e.g: progress bar and icons for new installed applications) [13:33] eow [13:33] for better readbility: [13:33] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/CnFIjTM0/ [13:34] thanks andyrock [13:34] #topic dgadomski === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-07 | Current topic: dgadomski [13:34] hey [13:34] sadly, nothing desktop-related to share this week [13:34] eof [13:34] thanks dgadomski [13:34] #topic didrocks === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-07 | Current topic: didrocks [13:35] He's on hols [13:35] also Trevinho is [13:35] ah [13:35] sorry :) [13:35] :) [13:35] #topic duflu === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-07 | Current topic: duflu [13:35] * Gnome Shell performance: [13:35] - Redesigned and fixed multi-monitor support in the Wayland vsync branch (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/171) [13:35] - Started profiling and optimizing mouse movement (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/189) [13:35] because it sounds like that's the main issue blocking the input lag fix (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/168). [13:35] Although in my opinion it's not really a blocker and landing 168 sooner is more important (see below). [13:35] * Gnome Shell other: [13:35] - Successful upstream landings: [13:35] . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/commit/b393f3d540 [13:35] - Now preparing a patchset for Debian with at least: [13:36] . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/117 [13:36] . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/168 [13:36] * PulseAudio: [13:36] - Prepared upgrade to PulseAudio 12.2 - awaiting sponsorship: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1785551 [13:36] Ubuntu bug 1785551 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Upgrade to PulseAudio 12.2 in cosmic" [Wishlist,Fix released] [13:36] * Daily bug management: [13:36] - Completed another significant bug review, but the chart won't show most of the improvement till October... [13:36] - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRDHPxGBHqM6XkT_S8ggtYfD0xchKSUD_z9PopNVE3G1rU05fVSnxDGcDsEstl7gu7N-tzCU6mLUp2V/pubchart?oid=254968654&format=interactive [13:36] #topic jamesh === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-07 | Current topic: jamesh [13:36] pulseaudio/snap-policy: [13:36] * I've got the snap policy module to a working state, using snapd-glib [13:36] in a separate thread: [13:36] https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesh/pulseaudio/+git/pulseaudio/+merge/352558 [13:36] * As the changes were non trivial, I'm going to seek a review before [13:36] trying to get this landed. [13:36] * At the moment, the module uses the legacy /v2/interfaces mode that [13:36] requests every connection on the system and filters it client side. [13:36] The version of the API that provides snapd side filtering doesn't [13:36] provide enough information to do what we want. [13:36] * Updated the forum thread to see what we want to do on the snapd [13:36] side: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/pulseaudio-recording/6361/12?u=jamesh [13:37] snapd-glib/interface-info: [13:37] * I'm addressing the review comments from Robert on [13:37] https://github.com/snapcore/snapd-glib/pull/40 [13:37] * The snapd API doesn't quite do what I needed for the Pulse Audio [13:37] patches (while it does offer server side filtering, it doesn't tell us [13:37] whether the plugs/slots are connected). So it might be worth working [13:37] on a snapd side patch before locking down the C API. [13:37] snapd: [13:37] * I've got a few PRs that need to be some attention. With the Pulse [13:37] Audio stuff mostly done, I need to check up on these to fix any [13:37] bitrot. [13:37] #topic heber === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-07 | Current topic: heber [13:38] I'll report for QA [13:38] - Release 16.04.5 on Aug. 2nd [13:38] - Continued 16.04 to 18.04 upgrade tests and triaged upgrade bugs [13:38] - Looked at ukuu (https://github.com/teejee2008/ukuu) as a way to manage kernels and how to extend it for hwe kernels and started work to package it as a snap. [13:38] - Adding “Installation Media” and upgrade metrics to the dashboard [13:38] done [13:38] jibel, ok, that includes for heber this week? [13:38] yes [13:38] thx [13:38] #topic kenvandine === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-07 | Current topic: kenvandine [13:38] we'll split next week [13:39] * Fixed deprecations in snap packaging for GNOME snaps that are upstream. Also fixed some build failures with the transition to meson. [13:39] * Working on respinning the hyper-v Ubuntu Desktop image based on 18.04.1 [13:39] * libxcursors had a security update in xenial, need to rebuild all the snaps today to pull that in. [13:39] ⚾ [13:39] #topic laney === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-07 | Current topic: laney [13:39] • was at debconf most of this time [13:39] • updates of g-s-d, g-c-c, gnome-shell, mutter, glib2.0 [13:39] ∘ glib thanks to being stricter and packages having autopkgtests found bugs in ruby-gnome2, appstream - fixed both upstream [13:39] • SRU reviewing, feedback and eventual sponsoring [13:39] • messed around with my gpg key since it expired without me noticing that was going to happen, can't upload to debian atm [13:39] • fixed an appstream-generator crash due to a bug in libappstream [13:39] • updated budgie-desktop to new mutter api, submitted upstream but looking to patch so new shell can go in cosmic [13:39] 🧖 [13:40] thx Laney [13:40] #topic oSoMoN === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-07 | Current topic: oSoMoN [13:40] hey [13:40] • chromium [13:40] ∘ bug #1784395 fixed after I found the right person to talk to at Google, and they kindly bumped our geolocation API quotas without billing enabled [13:40] bug 1784395 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Geolocation stopped working recently in chromium" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1784395 [13:40] ∘ opera in the snap store uses chromium-ffmpeg, success [13:40] ∘ updated stable to 68.0.3440.84 (in cosmic, snap in stable channel, and xenial and bionic updates ready and handed over to security team) [13:40] ∘ updated beta to 69.0.3497.23 [13:40] ∘ updated dev to 70.0.3510.0 (successfully tested https://swiftshader-review.googlesource.com/c/SwiftShader/+/19608 instead of a distro-patch of mine that reverts recent visibility changes) [13:40] • libreoffice [13:40] ∘ promoted 6.0.6 snap to the stable channel [13:40] ∘ built 6.1.0 RC3 snap and published in candidate channel, issued call for testing: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/call-for-testing-libreoffice-6-1-0/6654 [13:40] ∘ uploaded 6.0.6-0ubuntu1 to cosmic and preparing SRU for bionic (bug #1785679) [13:40] bug 1785679 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Bionic) "[SRU] libreoffice 6.0.6 for bionic" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1785679 [13:40] ∘ fixed bug #1780996 in xenial: uploaded 1:5.1.6~rc2-0ubuntu1~xenial4 [13:40] bug 1780996 in libomxil-bellagio (Ubuntu Bionic) "Convert triggers to noawait" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1780996 [13:40] ∘ filed bug #1785262 [13:40] bug 1785262 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "arm64 autopkgtests are flaky" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1785262 [13:40] • gnome-software: [13:40] ∘ fixed bug #1775226 [13:40] bug 1775226 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Bionic) "[SRU] Gnome Software offers installation of updates on shutdown independently from update-manager and unattended-upgrades" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1775226 [13:40] - proposed and merged https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-software/merge_requests/4 [13:40] - uploaded 3.29.1-0ubuntu6 to cosmic [13:40] - updated the bug report for SRU to bionic, and uploaded 3.28.1-0ubuntu4.18.04.3 to bionic-proposed [13:40] - the patch doesn't apply against recent master, need to update it [13:41] ∘ looked into why snap-store snap in edge channel doesn't get the full experience, it appears that gnome-software uses the appstream plugin to get the lists of installed applications and installable applications, and those are built by reading directly /usr/share/applications and /var/lib/app-info/yaml/*, which are not exposed by snapd, even to a devmode snap [13:41] 🌡 [13:41] thx oSoMoN [13:41] #topic seb128 === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-07 | Current topic: seb128 [13:41] • reviewed/sponsored nautilus update & SRU from Marco - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+git/nautilus/+merge/350174 [13:41] • desktop script improvements: generate a report for the desktop-packages set, added some upstream urls, display the code revision used to build the report [13:41] • reviewed/cleaned up/completed the ~desktop-packages list (deprecating the old ~desktop-bugs which was creating confusion). Removed subscription from deprecated packages and add the ones needed from the other list, the set went from 1100 to 730 [13:41] • sponsored the new pulseaudio to cosmic and gnome-calculator in Debian [13:41] • filed MIR bugs for gupnp-dlna, gupnp-av needed for rygel & dlna sharing [13:41] : [13:41] • some bugs triaging [13:42] [13:42] thx seb128 [13:42] #topic jbicha === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-07 | Current topic: jbicha [13:42] • gnome-tweaks 3.29.90 release [13:42] • Some gedit reviews upstream [13:42] • Packaged gnome-desktop3 and gobject-introspection [13:42] • Some discussion with GNOME about Ambiance theme bugs [13:42] • Uploaded Evolution 3.28.5 to bionic unapproved queue LP: #1784522 [13:42] Launchpad bug 1784522 in evolution (Ubuntu Bionic) "Update evolution to 3.28.5" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1784522 [13:42] • Packaged Evolution 3.29.90 in Debian git but I need some help figuring out how to [13:42] handle a conffile moving between packages. Maybe no handling is needed? [13:42] • I guess you can take me off the meeting list, because I won't have [13:42] much time for Ubuntu the next several weeks [13:42] 🍧 [13:43] jbicha, thanks! [13:43] #topic tkamppeter === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-07 | Current topic: tkamppeter [13:43] - Google Summer of Code 2018: Mentoring of the students on Common Print Dialog Backends and printer auto-selection by job. Checked and tested the student's code, helped them on finishing their projects and doing their final reports. Student's final report deadline is Tue, Auf 14. [13:43] - Bugs. [13:43] jbicha, I was going to say "nice to see you back being active", until I saw the last line :p still good that you had some slot to work on some updates :) [13:44] seb128: thanks and sorry [13:44] thanks tkamppeter [13:44] nothing to be sorry about! [13:45] (btw I saw the theme discussion yesterday, going to point Marco to some of the issues once he's back) [13:45] #topic robert_ancell === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-07 | Current topic: robert_ancell [13:45] - Released snapd-glib 1.42 which includes the verified publisher support [13:45] - Proposed GNOME Software change to add verified publishers [13:45] - Updated gnome-control-center branches under review [13:45] - Reviewed Iain's appstream-glib changes (https://github.com/hughsie/appstream-glib/pull/255) [13:45] - Had meeting with server team regarding ODRS [13:45] - Set up my own Gitlab CI runners in Canonistack [13:45] - Work on supporting new errors from snapd [13:45] (https://github.com/robert-ancell/snapd-glib/tree/new-errors) [13:45] - Investigate to errors.ubuntu.com crashers for gnome-control-center [13:45] - Rebased gnome-software ubuntu-master branch. Have not yet resolved what to do about updates patches no longer applying. [13:46] - Discussed with design team about design work required for merging legacy config apps into GNOME (https://trello.com/c/2zzukqWH) [13:46] oSoMoN, ^^ note robert's comment about rebasing ubuntu-master [13:46] he emailed us already [13:46] cool [13:46] kenvandine, yep, I'm looking at it today [13:47] #topic rls === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-07 | Current topic: rls [13:48] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html# [13:48] nothing for desktop incoming [13:48] yay [13:48] :) [13:48] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html# [13:49] kenvandine, you should nudge Robert about replying to Will on the g-c-c one [13:49] how difficult is it to reply to assigned bugs :/ [13:50] yeah, i will [13:50] * willcooke looks [13:50] I'd dropped that one too [13:50] have pinged [13:51] but yeah, if you're speaking to him, please nudge [13:51] yup [13:51] ta [13:52] #topic aob === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-07 | Current topic: aob [13:52] nada [13:53] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html was empty [13:54] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html needs some triaging, but we can do that out of the meeting [13:54] i'm going to review the list and see if things are getting stalled [13:54] seb128, oh... sorry :) [13:54] I'm also working on improving that [13:54] like writting scripts that nag/report inactivity, like the "your upload is blocked in proposed for " [13:55] seb128, oh... a robot seb! [13:55] i love it [13:55] lol [13:55] :) [13:55] seb129? [13:55] lol [13:55] lo [13:55] l [13:55] :) [13:55] just as a note I'm working on doing some improvements to our versions page [13:55] seb256 is reserved for when he upgrades to x86_64 [13:56] and maybe adding some sort of dashboard section [13:56] hehe [13:56] awesome :) [13:56] or maybe that's another report [13:56] I'm going to email news/details about that when I've a bit more done [13:56] and maybe try to seak help to make a proper website [13:56] I'm fine generating the data but probably not the right person to make that pretty :p [13:57] i have a script for generating something like that for the snaps [13:57] it generates a json file, rather than a static page [13:57] and i have an html page that uses the json for the model [13:58] url? [13:58] anyway that's not a meeting topic at this point [13:58] not public atm... the script requires the snap cli... and the people server is 12.04 [13:58] yeah [13:58] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently [13:58] Meeting ended Tue Aug 7 13:58:34 2018 UTC. [13:58] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2018/ubuntu-desktop.2018-08-07-13.31.moin.txt [13:58] thanks everyone [13:58] thanks! [13:58] that was all as aob for me, out of GNOME 3.29 updates ongoing and there is room for helping for those who want to do some (also Debian merges/other updates, see versions) [13:58] seb128, i need to convert my script to use the store's API so it can run without the snap cli [13:58] and hi jbicha nice to see you [14:00] seb128, https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-desktop-versions/gnome-snaps/view/head:/snaps.sh [14:00] that's my script [14:01] small :) [14:01] yeah :) [14:01] and creating json output is much simpler than static html [14:02] seb128, the logic for version comparison is all in the html file [14:02] so that's a bit longer [14:03] we need some team discussions around those report [14:03] but that can probably wait for Brussels and us to be together [14:03] yeah [14:03] we should [14:03] we need a dashboard [14:04] it's a bit dense what we have to report [14:04] but it's just that the team is busy/has lot of things on its plates [14:04] might be good for the dashboard to aggregate data from a collection of json files [14:05] at least that's what i was thinking when i hacked this script together :) [14:20] dashboards [14:20] you managers [14:21] wtf :///// [14:22] my new gdm was not starting, but now it works [14:22] no changes [14:23] dashboards and slides are the key of any good working product :p [14:23] gdm :( [14:24] * Laney blames VMs 😎 [14:25] Some GNOME expert here who has already tried the image viewer Geeqie? [14:33] jibel, my 18.04 hyper-v VM is stuck doing a dist-upgrade. Last line of stdout says "snapd.snap-repair.service is a disabled or static unit, not starting it." [14:34] and it's been stuck at 87% for 30 minutes [14:35] kenvandine, anything in the journal? [14:36] ok breaks again :< [14:39] tkamppeter, did you see that Steve replied on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups-filters/+bug/1763520 ? [14:39] Ubuntu bug 1763520 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "after upgrade to bionic, printing fails without explanation / logs / debuggability" [High,New] [14:45] jibel, checking [14:48] Aug 07 15:47:32 debian-vm gnome-shell[908]: Failed to set CRTC mode 1024x768: Permission denied [14:48] happens on debian too [14:48] jibel, oh... parsing error in the yaml! [14:48] sigh [14:49] could not find expected ':' [14:53] jibel, i sent the error via telegram [14:53] no irc setup in windows :) [14:55] jibel, i guess maybe the seed got messed up? and hung the update [15:08] kenvandine, yes i looks like a data corruption [15:08] it* [15:12] Next time anyone gets a chance, can you try changing the key binding for screenshot to clipboard to just prtscr and removing the binding for screenshot to Pictures - and see if screenshots stop working altogether [15:12] I'm going to log out and back in and see if that fixes it [15:13]