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ali1234because it actually works00:34
ali1234good analysis, good video :)01:03
m0nkey_I got nothing against it. I quite like how to add a service, create a unit file and enable it.01:09
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.06:18
zxmoy-pimorning mammals06:29
brobostigonmorning elven beings06:32
brobostigonhuman elfs*06:33
knightwiseGood morning brobostigon06:50
brobostigonmorning knightwise06:52
knightwiseGet zxmoy-pi06:52
knightwiseget = Hey06:53
knightwisehow you guys doing today ?06:53
knightwiseNot too hot ? Gonna be another waaaaarm one06:53
zxmoy-pitis a tuesday after a bank holiday... a stealth monday06:53
knightwiseoooh  hate those06:53
* knightwise working from home in the new offices06:53
knightwisenice :) I haz a view now.06:54
knightwisehttps://www.instagram.com/p/BmKxPkajcTdkiSYaPDEsqKIN76EmfvgBUQVa-40/?utm_source=ig_twitter_share&igshid=ydjbsauhfifa06:54
knightwiseOj joy that is an UGLY url06:54
daftykinso009:41
knightwise Hey daftykins09:42
knightwisehow man today you are*09:42
knightwise* please arrange words in right order to confirm you are not a freenode bot09:43
daftykinsxD just strolled down from the bedroom so not bad so far thanks :D all well with you?09:43
knightwiseYup :)09:44
knightwisefirst day in the new company office09:44
knightwisewe renovated the garage and its now an office/classroom for our company09:44
daftykins:D fresh smell of paint?09:44
knightwisepaint smell is gone, place smells of fresh wood09:45
knightwisewe used american pallet-wood to cover one of the walls09:45
knightwisemakes the place look very rustic09:45
daftykinsooh yes i see the above pic now, i hope that mug contains a tasty beverage09:47
knightwiseYep , Half of my coffee rations09:47
knightwisei've moved down to a maximum of 2 cups a day09:47
knightwiserest is tea09:47
daftykinsi've often found tea seems like the more mild alternative now, too - have quite a few now09:48
knightwisetoo much coffee makes me stressed and ancious09:48
knightwiseI was completely stressed out during our holidays, decided it was time for a change09:49
daftykinsright, i best get myself cleaned up and to the bank, then i can have a word with the charity shop staff about these two spruced up laptops for them to try and shift :D09:49
knightwiseso i started meditating/mindfullness, cut down on coffee and stuff like social media and stuff09:49
knightwisedaftykins: good luck with that dude :)09:50
daftykinsah didn't get the relaxing effect of the holiday huh? that sounds terrible09:50
knightwisenope , got a stress-backlash09:50
zxmoy-piwith a wood covered wall you can give classes on axe throwing or advanced sysadmin :-)09:50
daftykinsyikes09:50
knightwisehahahah :) THAT is an excellent idea09:50
knightwiseand we can practice on LIVE USERS09:50
zxmoy-pionly once... :-p09:50
daftykinsgood that you're nipping that one in the bud now, as i know someone who had to go off work for an entire year during a stress related breakdown... in fact that's why i ended up teaching, to help cover for them09:51
knightwisezxmoy-pi: they still breathe after you chop off an arm09:51
knightwisedaftykins: wife had a burn out 4 years ago. not something you wanna go through09:51
zxmoy-piyeah but they won't stand still to try again...09:51
daftykinseek09:51
knightwiseshe never fully recovered.  Says she is like a phone battery that only charges 80%09:51
daftykinswell, that's definitely better than nothing09:58
daftykinswas it a busy work life that did it?09:59
knightwiseWork mostly, Giving 120 percent for 4 years on end10:03
knightwisebad bosses who offered her no help10:03
knightwiseand one day .. poof: she could no longer go up the stairs10:03
zxmoy-piwork them till they're knackered, there's plenty more waiting for a job :-/10:05
knightwisezxmoy-pi: very true10:08
knightwisedrone 4993 is defective, replace with drone 499410:08
knightwiseshe always says she got the "BSOD" for 3 years and only then slowy rebooted10:08
knightwiseshe is now a therapist counceling people with stress issues, (Shiatsu and relaxation therapy) and works in our company as a trainer/coach teaching entrepreneurs about Social Media10:09
zxmoy-piamazon are walking themselves into a massive lawsuit soon with the same treatment of their warehouse workers10:10
zxmoy-pitechnically they work for other companies for amazon but some smart lawyer will find a way to nail them10:10
knightwiseyep. Welcome to the new slavery10:11
knightwiseSame thing with online stores like zalando and stuff10:11
knightwiseorder-pickers are the slaves of the next decenium10:11
zxmoy-pitill robots put them out of work10:11
* knightwise is currently working for a company helping them with Chatbots and AI, 10:12
knightwisetake a gooood hard look at the helpdesk/callcenter agent.10:12
knightwisecuz a lot of them arent going to be around for that much longer10:12
zxmoy-pino no, they promised those jobs weren't at risk from robots...10:12
knightwisezxmoy-pi: every time you say "hey google" or'hey alexa" you are feeding them linguistic data that helps their voice recognition systems become smarter10:15
knightwisethe smarter they get .. the faster they can replace a menial callcenter agent10:15
zxmoy-pii have never used alexa or hey google10:16
zxmoy-pinever will10:16
zxmoy-piwill never buy amazon10:16
knightwisei have one in the office , /me needs to know how it works10:16
knightwisehmm. Good article on reddit/r/commandline about a guy who wants to go full cli because hey plays to much games/pron10:17
zxmoy-piintroduce him to rogue :-)10:18
knightwiseRogue ?10:18
Laneynethack10:18
Laneythe best of the genre10:18
zxmoy-pioh dear... rogue a console game from the 70s... excellent game.  try pixel dungeon on android for a modern prettier version10:18
Laney😈10:18
knightwisehey Laney10:19
knightwisenah , he doesnt wanna GAME on the Cli ,10:19
Laneymoin knightwise10:19
knightwisehe wants to get his scatterbrain under control and focus on whats important when he is using a computer10:19
zxmoy-pii do the same with as many console based apps as possible. it is good for reducing distractions10:20
knightwisezxmoy-pi: totally agree10:20
* knightwise working on a podcast on becoming a little more "cyber zen"10:21
Laneywell10:21
LaneyI have IRC in my terminal :P10:21
knightwiselets see, irc, newsbeuter, rtv, twidge and Nano10:21
knightwisealthough I should teach myself to use emacs10:21
zxmoy-pimy irc is run on irssi on my rasp pi which i ssh into from any other device at home...10:21
zxmoy-pisc for spreadsheets10:21
knightwisezxmoy-pi: I run all my cli apps on my Pi3 in Cli via Tmux10:22
knightwiseoh , and alpine for mail !10:23
zxmoy-pii did try alpine but it didn't like my gmail at the time... must go look at it again10:24
knightwisezxmoy-pi: works fine with Gmail via imap10:25
knightwisetls and everything10:25
knightwisehmm. I should take on of my older laptops and JUST put a cli interface on there :) see if it would be workable10:32
zxmoy-pifreedos.... whoooooo!1!!! :-)10:34
diddledanCPM!12:13
zxmoy-pii have looked at some of the z80 computers currently available to run cp/m....12:14
zxmoy-pino intel backdoors there :-)12:14
* diddledan tries to penetrate zxmoy-pi 's airgap12:26
* zxmoy-pi watches 3 feral cats approach ninja diddledans hiding spot...12:27
daftykinsfirst machine dropped off at the charity shop \o/12:39
diddledan\o/12:39
zxmoy-pileft in basket at the door, ring bell and leg it...12:40
diddledanI love that term "leg it"12:40
zxmoy-piwonderfully visual, isn't it?12:40
daftykinshow'd you know?12:41
daftykins<me> have you heard of Linux? <them> uh, no...?12:41
diddledandid you explain via interpretive dance?12:42
daftykinsnay, some authentic Guernsey throat singing12:42
zxmoy-pino glove puppets to hand?12:42
diddledanpuppets? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkCfws0jtVA12:43
* diddledan might buy deadpool213:09
diddledanavailable on vudu (US only)13:09
daftykinsoooh i forgot that existed13:10
daftykinsmy neighbour invited me to go see this new Antman one soon, could be amusing13:10
* diddledan whops the wasp13:11
daftykinswow serious storm brewin' here, real rumbles coming from the channel - maybe over France13:33
diddledanno, that's my stomach13:33
daftykinshttp://en.blitzortung.org/live_lightning_maps.php?map=1013:33
daftykinsthen you must be near me!13:34
diddledanalmost over top of you, by the looks of that cluster on the map13:34
daftykinsyip yip13:35
* knightwise back :) 14:14
daftykinswoohoo proper rain \o/14:31
knightwisedaftykins: lucky bastard14:59
knightwisei just saw an astromech and a protocol droid in my back yard asking for directoins to jabba's palace14:59
daftykinsxD14:59
daftykinsmmm caramel latté from next door also, aaaah life is good15:00
emmahi15:09
emmahow do you make the factoids for ubottu?15:09
emma!test15:10
lubotu3Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3...15:10
daftykinsyou have to ask in #ubuntu-ops15:10
daftykinsalso hi :>15:10
emmadaftykins: wow i didn't know you were an ubuntu uk member15:10
daftykinsdid you get anywhere with that lemon laptop of your aunts the other day? just done some full disassembly of a couple here myself which had faulty HDDs15:11
emmai came here to find out how to make the factoids for ubottu because i can't remember how to make them for ubnotu lol15:11
daftykinsoh i'm not a member, i just lurk here since they've yet to ban me ;)15:11
emmai didn't think there would be anyone here that knew me15:11
daftykinsand i can wave across at the English Channel at them!15:12
emmalol15:12
daftykins-at15:12
emmai did put linux on her laptop but she hasn't seen it yet15:12
emmait works okay i think i don't really know how to test it but i think it is okay15:13
daftykinsgiven the age it no doubt has clogged vents like the ones i got and failed HDDs :>15:13
emmamaybe i can try to clean it15:14
daftykinshttps://dafty.rocks/nextcloud/s/w8J28nLfbbrs6bb - i'd been boring this lot with my pics15:14
daftykinsyeah, even easier if they're not like the two i had - HP and Compaq that needed even the LCD off to get down to the board :(15:14
emmais that your domain?15:14
daftykinsyep15:14
emmathat's an awesome domain!15:14
daftykinsheh thanks15:15
emmaoh my gosh you took it apart completely15:15
emmathat's why you are always telling me to fix things for myself15:15
* m0nkey__ lurks here too15:15
emmabut that sort of taking it apart terrifies me15:16
daftykinsyeah, had i not sorted that cooling, it would've overheated for the people picking them up from the charity shop i just gave them to15:16
emmai would never get it back together15:16
emmahi m0nkey__15:16
daftykinswell if you google the range you can find the service manuals so it's quite easy to follow along15:16
emmareading the service manual is a skill tho15:16
daftykinsm0nkey__: \o15:16
daftykinsnaaah it just has pics15:17
daftykinsand "take out these screws"15:17
daftykinsi don't know how the guy got his data off them, because the original OSs just totally froze up due to the faulty HDDs + overheating15:17
daftykinsLouis is live \o/ www.twitch.tv/rossmanngroup15:18
m0nkey__Happy little macbook15:18
emmadaftykins: you gave it to a charity?15:19
daftykinsyeah by chance 10m from my door is one of the UK chain of cancer research places, so i popped down and asked if they would take them to sell in their shop15:20
daftykinsso just this morning i took the first one in, loaded up with Xubuntu - we'll see if it shifts15:20
emmawow thats awesome15:20
emmaoh wow15:20
daftykinsjust been fixing up a small Dell desktop as well but i don't know if they'll take that15:20
daftykinsi had to put spare HDDs in of my own to get the laptops back to working order15:20
emmasomeone will be lucky to have it15:21
daftykinsdunno if i'd go that far xD webcam and wifi were all working fine though - and they were able to play youtube videos fullscreen15:22
daftykinscurrently zeroing the HDD in the desktop then i'll get an OS on there too15:22
emmais that a good test?15:22
emmai put kubuntu on my aunts laptop so its not like i found a light weight one15:22
emmabut i feel like it looks okay15:22
daftykinsdepending on the specs it would most likely be impractical to run well for anyone without patience like me15:23
emmai tried to test it by opening firefox over and over again and starting different youtube videos and playing them all at once.15:23
daftykinsif i were selling these for profit i'd be putting SSDs in for sure15:23
emmait isn't fast like you are used to15:23
emmabut i think her laptop was not that fast when it had xp on it either15:23
daftykinsi dunno, it was a pretty simple OS15:24
daftykinsi cringed when i saw XP boot on this Dell desktop just now xD15:24
daftykinshoping not to see that ever again :D15:24
daftykinsseriously though, you must join the SSD master race - computing will never be the same again! :D15:26
emmai wish i could15:27
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diddledandid telegram just die?17:46
diddledanhttps://outage.report/telegram seems yes17:48
* diddledan blames popey17:49
daftykinsxD17:50
marshmnoh18:05
marshmnI was wondering18:05
marshmnI've only been using Telegram since the last week18:05
marshmnyet another chat system though :/18:05
marshmnthank goodness for Rambox18:06
popeydiddledan: did you break telegram again?!19:09
zxmoy-pihe tried to send a message in morse via telegtam?! :-P19:12
m0nkey_Too many chats.20:14
m0nkey_keep it simples.20:14
m0nkey_IRC20:14
m0nkey_That was nearly a haiku20:14
brobostigon:)20:16
zxmoy-pidon't worry google has a plan... release so many chat platforms till everyone has their own...20:36
zxmoy-pithen we'll all realise the mistake and switch to aol messenger :-)20:38
popeyBring back ICQ20:51
m0nkey_uh-oh!20:55
brobostigontwelve monkeys on bbc4, :)21:00
zxmoy-pii ...think icq is still going...21:03
ali1234produce is to products as consume is to ___?22:39
ali1234i don't really like the term "consumables"22:40
zxmoy-piit is the common use word...22:48
daftykinsconcur23:36
daftykinsmy friend and his wife, a vat, just nipped back to my house to help trim my cat's claws (because i'm a wimp) after a night out (they're over from England for a wedding of one of our old school friends this weekend)23:37
daftykinsi crept in, locked her flap then went to find her, all curled up atop the bed sheets on the top floor23:37
daftykins"oh, hello hooman"23:37
daftykinsbring the rest of them in and go up, she's already crept under the bed and is camped out there with the least impressed face ever on her :D23:38
daftykinsbut right now she's forgotten, all is forgiven23:38

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