[00:00] abort [00:00] abort [00:10] Synaptic is still the most common GUI tool for installing packages on Ubuntu these days, right? [00:11] hello all, i have an issue with a graphics driver, im using nvidia's non-free driver, its working, in the nvidia x server settings under GPU 0 it shows my bus type as being gen3 16x, but under the powermizer section its showing the current PCIe link width as x4, is this normal ? [00:11] Software & Updates has trouble with slightly obscure stuff [00:11] https://imgur.com/a/VoxLfiB [00:12] AlexMax: are you experiencing an issue what we might be able to help with? [00:13] @AlexMax, There's the snap store too which might be gaining popularity. [00:13] masaki: that's not what their asking === Rootyjr is now known as boogle [00:13] *they're [00:13] pragmaticenigma: not paritcular === boogle is now known as Rootyjr [00:13] I haven't used Desktop Ubuntu in anger since 8.10 [00:14] pragmaticenigma, my mistake [00:14] Is this channel only for issues? [00:14] and more social and fuzzy questions go elsewhere? [00:14] AlexMax: Synaptic is still available and is used by some of the Ubuntu flavors. The desktop environments have been building their own using standardized hooks that give a native interface to the aptitude ecosystem [00:15] Social and fuzzy questions typically go in #ubuntu-offtopic, or #ubuntu-discuss [00:15] yeah i use apt more then any software center or synaptic, i know they do the same thing, its just quicker to type what i want [00:16] AlexMax: Define slightly obscure stuff? The official ubuntu package repos only contain stable and tested packages. there shouldn't be any issues with packages provided officially [00:16] im really unsure if my bus speed issue is causing performance issues with my gpu [00:17] Well, there are 78,645 packages in 18.04, so it's no surprise the GUI struggles :) [00:18] lilkuz2005: Do you know what the PCIe slot is rated for? [00:18] pragmaticenigma: Well, for example, I want to install the SDL2 development library [00:18] Which should be sdl2-dev [00:19] which is in universe [00:19] !info libsdl2-dev [00:19] libsdl2-dev (source: libsdl2): Simple DirectMedia Layer development files. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8+dfsg1-1ubuntu1.18.04.1 (bionic), package size 688 kB, installed size 3848 kB [00:19] pragmaticenigma, yeah i sure do, the top PCIe slot is 16x, the bottom is 4x, i only have the gpu installed so nothing is sharing the pcie lanes [00:20] pragmaticenigma, https://imgur.com/a/VoxLfiB thats 2 pics of the nvidia control panel showing what im talking about [00:21] But if I put sdl2 or something like that into the "Ubuntu Software" app, I get nothing [00:21] which is why I wanted to install synaptic in the first place [00:21] AlexMax: CLI using "apt-cache search ..." or "apt-cache search -n ..." (searches names only) [00:21] and I just wanted to make sure that's still the best GUI tool to use [00:21] AlexMax, open terminal and type sudo apt search sdl2 [00:22] AlexMax: the GUI is more aimed at locating executable applications rather then development libraries and source headers [00:23] TJ-: Exactly, which is why I was asking if Synaptic was still the best and most up to date GUI tool for installing arbitrary packages [00:23] I usually lean on aptitude in my debian, terminal-only VPS's [00:23] AlexMax: I've not used that in over 10 years :) [00:23] Damg, it's that out of date? [00:24] AlexMax: no, I've just become wedded to core command-line tools [00:24] eh, sometimes I just wanna....browse :P [00:26] !info synaptic [00:26] synaptic (source: synaptic): Graphical package manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.84.3ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 624 kB, installed size 3276 kB [00:26] synaptic is fine [00:28] lilkuz2005: it is possible that without anything demanding higher throughput it is throttling it self down [00:29] pragmaticenigma, thanks for looking into it for me, i have the witcher 2 running via steam right now with high settings 1080p [00:32] hi, i deleted all the kernels on my system, apart from one, which i think is not finished with install process, i am now looking and trying guidelines to resolve this issue, but am getting stuck, anyone who might hekp me? [00:32] ups, help me [00:34] qwebirc36342: deleted the files from /boot/ directory, or removed the linux-image* packages? [00:35] tryed to empty out space in /boot and then i removed all but latest kernel number, not thinking that i did so, because there was no space to finish install of kernel [00:36] found this now. would that work, i am on a live system on the same machine [00:36] https://askubuntu.com/questions/700214/how-do-i-install-an-old-kernel [00:37] qwebirc36342: if you only deleted the files you only need to "apt install --reinstall linux-image-$VERSION" for each missing kernel [00:37] qwebirc36342: you can get a list of the installed kernel image packages with " apt list --installed linux-image* 2>/dev/null | cut -d/ -f 1 | tail -n +2 " [00:38] so i have my boot partition mounted, i cd to it and run the command? [00:39] qwebirc36342: no, you need to run that after chroot-ing into the root file-system [00:39] how do i chroot? [00:39] !chroot [00:39] A chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot [00:40] ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ !chroot bash: !chroot: event not found [00:44] TJ maybe i need some packages in a live system to chroot? [00:46] qwebirc36342: "!chroot" is invalid; the "!" is not required, that's a bash internal construction [00:48] so chroot says its missing operand [00:48] i feel like such a newb/dork [00:49] qwebirc36342: yes. First you need to mount the root-filesystem to some directory mountpoint, then "sudo chroot /path/to/mountpoint" [00:49] eg. my /boot [00:50] qwebirc36342: e.g. "sudo mkdir /target; sudo mount /dev/sdX0 /target; for n in proc sys dev dev/pts run etc/resolv.conf; do sudo mount --bind /$n /target/$n; done; sudo chroot /target" [00:50] qwebirc36342: once inside the chroot do "mount -a" and that'll automount all the entries in /etc/fstab that should be mounted - such as /boot/ [00:51] qwebirc36342: until you type "exit" you're 'root' user in the installed root file-system, not the Live USB [00:52] I had a main system SSD and a 2nd HDD for my Home folder. I cleaned off my SSD and did a clean install of Ubuntu 18.04 on it. Is there a way to still unencrypt my HDD so I can access those files? [00:53] feels like i am getting closer, but still something is wrong, i changed the device name to fit, but otherwise copied your code, which i failed to fully undertsand..and got this output> [00:53] ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /target; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /target; for n in proc sys dev dev/pts run etc/resolv.conf; do sudo mount --bind /$n /target/$n; done; sudo chroot /target mount: mount point /target/proc does not exist mount: mount point /target/sys does not exist mount: mount point /target/dev does not exist mount: mount point /target/dev/pts does not exist mount: mount point /target/run does not exist mount: mount poi [00:53] designbybeck: encrypted home directory? [00:54] qwebirc36342: your /dev/sda1 is NOT the root file-system, since it doesn't contain the correct directories [00:54] TJ-, yeah the setup I had before with 16.04, I set it up with encrypted home dir on the HDD [00:55] designbybeck: so, in your new OS root-fs, in its /etc/fstab, you've an entry pointing to the 2nd hard drive mouted to /home/ ? [00:55] what is the suggested way that I can updated from Ubuntu 17.04 to whatever the lastest and greatest is ? [00:55] TJ-, well when I did this clean install, I unhooked all the other drives just to be safe [00:56] designbybeck: did you install the "ecprytfs-utils" package ? [00:56] hmmmm not sure TJ- how do I find out [00:56] designbybeck: if you installed that package, then at log-in time pam_ecryptfs will be triggered to unlock the user's home directory [00:57] designbybeck: "apt list ecryptfs-utils" --- it should say "installed" [00:57] designbybeck: if not then "sudo apt install ecryptfs-utils" [00:57] I can see the drive now and it has a readme.txt file but say /usr/share/ecryptfs-utiles/ecryptfs-mount-private.txt doesn't exist TJ- s [00:58] designbybeck: right, so you've not installed this package. Do it and it'll all work (if the /home/ directory is mounted from the 2nd disk drive) [00:58] TJ-, ecryptfs-utils/bionic 111-0ubuntu5 amd64 [00:58] ah, Yeah when I boot I do have the full disk encryption and can get on to the system, just not this second drive [00:59] so I can just do a sudo apt install ecryptfs-utils TJ- ? [00:59] is there any good way for me to update form ubuntu 17.04 to the lastest version? [00:59] elim_garak, I think you have to go to 17.10 first [01:00] designbybeck: when i try to update it says no way, not supported [01:00] designbybeck: either by command line or the update tool [01:00] not for cardasian spys [01:00] im just a tailor [01:00] and a rather good one [01:01] you are no more a tailer than I am a irc user [01:01] well that failed [01:01] All: I have a 5 identical servers all running the latest version of 16.04 where the Intel NIC I am using randomly disappears after 16-48 hours of uptime. I can't seem to find anything in the logs but I may be looking in the wrong place. All I have been able to find is a couple lines reported by dmesg and all they say is "adapter removed" ... I promise it's still there ... any idea where I can look further to see if I can find [01:01] out what is causing this issue? [01:02] im afraid the option is going to be for me to install fresh [01:03] sorry for being stupid here TJ i can see you are a busy man, but how do i found my root system [01:07] designbybeck: did that fix it? my tablet went to sleep! [01:09] sorry for being stupid here TJ i can see you are a busy man, but how do i found my root system [01:10] qwebirc36342: if you've found the /boot/ file system, you should be able to get it from the kernel options in the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file [01:14] okay i am looking in the file, and i see it refers to the internal ssd disc, there is 3 partitions on this disc i can see from running parted -l [01:14] i see it named hd0 [01:14] Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake [01:15] or should i look for the uuid [01:15] qwebirc36342: e.g. if the boot file-system is /dev/sda1, then you've done "sudo mkdir /boot; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /boot" you can search using "grep -o 'linux.*root=[^ ]*' /boot/grub/grub.cfg" [01:18] what i did so far was to boot a live usb, and then i mounted /dev/sda1 to /mnt/sda1 that i created in the live system, sda1 is my boot partition on the broken system, === capella|away is now known as capella [01:19] qwebirc36342: use "grep -o 'linux.*root=[^ ]*' /mnt/sda1/grub/grub.cfg" [01:20] qwebirc36342: if that gives you results, and the root= is a UUID, then do "sudo blkid" to match that to the correct partition [01:21] i do get a long list [01:21] entries like> linux /vmlinuz-4.4.0-128-generic root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root [01:21] qwebirc36342: i'd expect all the root= entries to be then same [01:21] right so it's an LVM volume, not a raw partition [01:22] yes, that seems true [01:22] qwebirc36342: so now find out where that lives with "sudo pvscan" [01:23] qwebirc36342: you'll get something like "PV /dev/sdXY ..." [01:25] qwebirc36342: at this point you may only need to do "sudo vgchange -ay" to create the device-mapper node /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root [01:26] best ubuntu book or website for "full course" style introduction/learning? [01:27] sudo pvscan No matching physical volumes found [01:28] sorry i think i missed the sudo blkid [01:28] qwebirc36342: hmmm, pvscan should search all devices for it [01:29] sudo blkid /dev/sda1: UUID="69d2df4e-74b0-42a8-9d9c-61da5438d55b" TYPE="ext2" PARTUUID="d9a34f73-01" /dev/loop0: TYPE="squashfs" /dev/sda5: UUID="1d0725f3-f39a-436f-8a46-0368e4ac572c" TYPE="crypto_LUKS" PARTUUID="d9a34f73-05" /dev/sdb1: UUID="2017-08-01-11-51-33-00" LABEL="Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS amd64" TYPE="iso9660" PTUUID="0d66cd15" PTTYPE="dos" PARTUUID="0d66cd15-01" /dev/sdb2: SEC_TYPE="msdos" UUID="398E-230F" TYPE="vfat" PARTU [01:30] qwebirc36342: oh, sda5 type crypto_LUKS ... you used full disk encryption? [01:30] yes, actually, i did not, its my fathers machine, he did [01:31] but full disc, i thought only the home drive [01:31] qwebirc36342: right, but it has FDE so we have to install tools and open that first! [01:31] so no really sure if it is on the entire disc, i can mount the boot folder, so that is not at least [01:31] qwebirc36342: looks like it might be FDE for the OS, and in addition user home directory encryption for /home/$USER/ [01:31] qwebirc36342: so, install the tools first: "sudo apt install cryptsetup" [01:32] should already be installed i am told [01:33] qwebirc36342: that's good :) so let's try opening it. I hope you know the passphrase! [01:33] I Do! [01:33] qwebirc36342: "sudo cryptsetup open --type=luks /dev/sda5 sda5_crypt" [01:33] qwebirc36342: it might not like the "=" symbol, so replace that with a spac [01:34] qwebirc36342: "sudo cryptsetup open --type luks /dev/sda5 sda5_crypt" [01:34] yup [01:34] qwebirc36342: did that open it? [01:35] qwebirc36342: you can check with "ls /dev/mapper" -- should see a sda5_crypt listed [01:35] well it did something.. === i00nsu is now known as Guest40202 [01:35] i can now see it listed in nautilus, but clicking it gives me Error mounting /dev/sdb1 at /media/ubuntu/Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS amd64: Command-line `mount -t "iso9660" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=999,gid=999,iocharset=utf8,mode=0400,dmode=0500" "/dev/sdb1" "/media/ubuntu/Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS amd64"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: /dev/sdb1 is already mounted or /media/ubuntu/Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS amd64 busy [01:35] qwebirc36342: and if you're very luck, udev should have found the LVM too and added ubuntu--vg-root [01:35] qwebirc36342: don't use GUI! stick with the shell [01:36] ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls /dev/mapper control sda5_crypt ubuntu--vg-root ubuntu--vg-swap_1 [01:36] qwebirc36342: Yay, well done! [01:36] qwebirc36342: right, lets get things fixed. first clean up: "sudo umount /mnt/sda1" [01:37] i just dont really know commands very well, so i have trouble working around in the shell alone, but am happy all the advise you are giving me [01:38] qwebirc36342: now "sudo mkdir -p /target; sudo mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root /target; for n in proc sys dev dev/pts run etc/resolv.conf; do sudo mount --bind /$n /target/$n; done" [01:38] I want to install Ubuntu Desktop LTS 16.04 using an automated script that runs on a Ubuntu Live Disk. [01:38] qwebirc36342: at this point, if you got no errors, it should be ready to chroot :) [01:38] !kickstart | Goop [01:38] Goop: Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/installation-guide/amd64/apb.html - See also !cloning [01:40] no errors [01:40] okay, i have to see if i can find my way thru the backlog, to the chroot commands.. [01:40] qwebirc36342: fab... now do "sudo chroot /target" and you're into the root FS [01:40] qwebirc36342: you should see the shell prompt change to a # instead of a $ [01:40] I haven't done professional I.T. before, but how do you create one physical image of something and the same thing on like 20 other computers? [01:40] indeed [01:40] qwebirc36342: if so, do "mount -a" and it should read the /etc/fstab and mout /boot as well [01:41] qwebirc36342: then do "ls -latr /boot/ and you should see the boot file-system content [01:41] Goop: I just pointed you to the kickstart links [01:41] root@ubuntu:/# ls -latr /boot/ total 12826 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 184840 Jan 28 2016 memtest86+_multiboot.bin -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 184380 Jan 28 2016 memtest86+.elf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 182704 Jan 28 2016 memtest86+.bin drwx------ 2 root root 12288 Jul 27 2017 lost+found -rw------- 1 root root 7156160 Jun 14 15:24 vmlinuz-4.4.0-130-generic -rw------- 1 root root 3900257 Jun 14 15:24 System.map-4.4.0-130-generi [01:42] hi , I wanan crack the /etc/shadow file, what tools should I choose ? [01:42] qwebirc36342: OK, no need to paste in here - use a pastebin if needed, but you're there so lets get sorted out. [01:42] sorry [01:42] thanks [01:42] qwebirc36342: first, check the chroot has network connectivity ... "ping paste.ubuntu.com" [01:42] My Ubuntu server keeps trying to upgrade over ipv6 but it doesn't have ipv6 so it's failing to connect. how 2 force ipv4? [01:43] !ipv6 | xnite [01:43] xnite: For an introduction to IPv6 and information on tunneling IPv6 through IPv4 connections, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6 | To disable IPv6 see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4 [01:43] there is connection, how do i stop the ping? [01:43] qwebirc36342: Ctrl+C [01:43] 05 LOSS [01:43] qwebirc36342: so now ensure the tool is installed : "apt install pastebinit" [01:44] 0 PERCENT LOSS [01:44] qwebirc36342: at this point you can easily paste info that I can see using this tool [01:45] hello [01:45] For those who used to make use of pine, is alpine a worthy replacement ? [01:45] anyone here? [01:46] okay [01:46] aye, howdy darwin_ [01:46] qwebirc36342: show me "pastebinit <( lsb_release -a; apt list --installed linux-image*; ls -latr /boot/ )" [01:46] WoC: alpine seemed reasonable the little I used it [01:47] ty tj [01:47] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mRwhBgx6xq/ [01:47] qwebirc36342: now we're rolling :) [01:47] i feel it to [01:47] damn your good [01:49] qwebirc36342: hmmm, I don't see anything obviously wrong there. When the system boots where does it get stuck? what do you see? [01:49] what does 'installed, automatic' mean... or 'installed, auto-removable'? [01:49] qwebirc36342: give me a few mins, I need to get a drink! it's almost 3am here [01:49] illuminated: installed, automatic means the package is a dependency of some other package that was installed [01:50] great thanks [01:50] to tell you that i have to leave you for a while, because i havent actually tried that. my father came with it to me, because the boot was full, i deketed all but one, and not realizing that it was no finished with installation i suspect the 130 kernel is not actually there in working order, even if the folder structure is there [01:51] 4 am here [01:52] i expect it say something like there is no kernel. but the exact wording is not know to me at this time [01:56] TJ > would really prefere if I do not have to leave you here trying to reboot, but if need i will try, just waiting for the confirm, cause i expect it might take a while for me to find my way back here === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [01:57] Hey, Would it be possible to get some help upgrading my lan drivers? [01:59] qwebirc17929: back now [01:59] qwebirc17929: you don't need to reboot it... I suspect it's currently fine if it starts the .130 kernel [02:00] qwebirc17929: so what we need to do is 'officially' remove the unwanted kernel versions [02:00] qwebirc17929: let's see what the free space looks like, show me "pastebinit <( df )" [02:01] Huh, free space of what? [02:01] root@ubuntu:/# pastebinit <( df ) df: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory Unable to read from: /dev/fd/63 [02:01] qwebirc36342: sorry, there's 2 of you with similar nicknames! [02:02] Let me change mine [02:02] how to change name? [02:02] with /nick newnick [02:02] qwebirc36342: OK, that is strange, it should work from within the chroot. === qwebirc36342 is now known as casperDK [02:03] I am now casperDk [02:03] casperDK: hahaha trying to confuse me [02:03] sorry [02:04] Changed my name. If anyone can provide help on upgrading my lan drivers, that would be awesome. [02:05] TJ i know you say i should stay in the shell, but nautilus does not show me a 63 folder in /dev/fd/ but there is a bunch of stuff with other numbers, only one showing up as a folder [02:05] casperDK: I've just tested df in a chroot here and it works. Try it without pastebinit, just do "df" [02:06] root@ubuntu:/# df df: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory [02:06] what should df do? [02:06] casperDK: don't worry about that, the mention of fd was a temporary file-descriptor used to pipe the output of df into pastebinit [02:06] casperDK: I think you missed a command out [02:07] casperDK: show me "pastebinit <( cat /proc/mounts )" [02:07] casperDK: "df" is "disk free space" - it reports used/free for all file-systems that are mounted [02:07] cat: /proc/mounts: No such file or directory Unable to read from: /dev/fd/63 [02:08] casperDK: aha! [02:08] could there be an issue with the ssd here on top of something..? im just guessing wildly.. [02:08] aha?? [02:09] casperDK: missed mounting the /proc file-system somehow. Try this: "mount -t proc proc /proc" [02:09] what does your path refer to in linux? [02:09] casperDK: then try "cat /proc/mounts" again [02:09] moses: do you mean PATH - the environment variable ? [02:09] PATH yes sorry [02:10] like using which to identfy a directory that is somehow linked to my PATH [02:10] moses: it's the search path used to find executable files when you type a command [02:10] moses: "echo $PATH" will show it [02:10] moses: correct, 'which' searchs PATH for the command you're looking for [02:11] root@ubuntu:/# cat /proc/mounts /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root / ext4 rw,relatime,data=ordered 0 0 proc /proc proc rw,relatime 0 0 [02:11] moses: "which -a" will search every directory and report all hits, without "-a" it stops after the 1st hit [02:11] casperDK: that's better! OK "pastebinit <( df )" [02:11] how come which $PATH doesnt return anything [02:11] its not a command? [02:11] casperDK: strangely I don't see /dev/sda1 /boot there === Sveta_ is now known as Sveta === rheddry is now known as levifig [02:12] moses: which takes a command name as an argument, e.g. "which bash" or "which echo" [02:12] does not work with pastebin, this is without> root@ubuntu:/# df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root 241340864 20973476 208084920 10% / [02:12] yeah which has a binary [02:12] $PATH does not [02:13] moses: $PATH is not a command, it's a list of directories [02:13] oh ok [02:13] so is it a file i can look at? [02:13] casperDK: I think somehow you didn't get the chroot set up correctly. Can you show me "pastebinit /etc/fstab" [02:13] moses: no [02:14] !PATH [02:14] The $PATH variable tells the shell where to look for the commands you tell it to run. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#File-location_related_variables [02:15] moses: if you want to see the directories contained in $PATH you can do echo $PATH [02:15] okay, i am getting an idea here, i have not given all the details of my failed atempts, cause i did at some point mount /dev /proc and /sys to folders created with /sda1 in /mnt, because i was trying to follow a guide online, when you said i should umount sda1 I also umonut /sys /proc and /dev [02:16] but to answer you pastebinit /etc/fstab Failed to contact the server: [Errno socket error] [Errno -3] Temporary failure in name resolution [02:16] casperDK: oh crikey!! that would break everything, because you'd unmount them from the Live environment too!! [02:17] damn, should i just reboot the whole thing or is there a way to fix my mess up? [02:17] So path links to the directories storing binary files [02:17] PATH* [02:17] i feel like an elephant in a glass shop [02:17] casperDK: I think you need to reboot... first try rebooting into the installed system, if that works we can just clean it up and we're done. if it doesn't boot, use the LiveUSB again but wait for me to give you instructions before doing anything! [02:18] sorry, will try, can i found you here on this link again> https://webchat.freenode.net/?randomnick=1&channels=%23ubuntu [02:18] hello [02:18] casperDK: I've a feeling from what I've seen it'll boot, but we do need to clean up the packages [02:18] casperDK: Yes, I'll hang about in this #ubuntu channel [02:18] it stores my binary locations such that my shell can find them quicker by searching through specific directories instead of everything correct? [02:19] thanks so much TJ, sorry for not giving all the details, i did not realize the importance, and thought there was so many people demanding your presious time.. see you in a bit\ [02:19] casperDK: good luck :) [02:19] I think I understand, thank you for the help [02:24] Where can I find the changelog if the newly released linux headers? [02:24] *of [02:24] TJ. i could boot [02:24] qwebirc46414: nice one :) [02:25] qwebirc46414: did it get the GUI ? [02:25] how to change name [02:25] qwebirc46414: do /nick newname [02:25] yes, i am back on track it seems, but i think it is the default kernel image [02:25] ah nick i was think name === qwebirc46414 is now known as casperDk [02:26] is it possible to use two monitors on one linux system allowing the cursor to move from one screen to the ohter like windows? [02:26] casperDk: OK, so open a terminal and lets get it cleaned up [02:26] klandestine: yes [02:26] klandestine Yes [02:26] klandestine: I have a laptop that drives 6 displays and the mouse moves across all of them [02:26] sweet [02:26] 6 displays, wow [02:27] what do i write [02:27] how do I do that? [02:27] casperDk: let's ensure it has the famous tool: "sudo apt install pastebinit" and then show me "pastebinit <( apt list --installed linux-image* )" [02:28] klandestine: do what? nothing to do, just plug the additional monitor(s) in and enable/position them using the Display settings tool [02:28] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/P8WvMygFbj/ [02:28] will I have the ability to use virtual terminals on either screen? [02:30] klandestine cant say that i truely know, but i have never experinced that there was somethin i could only do on one sceen and cant see the reason why it would be like that [02:30] Hi, there's a new release for Thunderbird 60. Will it be made available in 16.04 repository? Currently it offers v. 52. [02:30] casperDk: this will remove all but .130: "sudo apt remove linux-image{,-extra}-4.4.0-{102,112,116,119,121,122,124,127,128}-generic " [02:31] 102 was not found it seems but otherwise it completted [02:31] klandestine: You know, I've never checked that! I think by default the TTYs only go to the first CRTC of the first GPU [02:32] casperDk: OK, now do "sudo apt autoremove" which should remove a lot of linux-headers* packages too [02:32] 2.2 GB [02:32] wow [02:32] I have two lenovos that have a display adapter with two ports (one dp and the ohter dvi) and use that for windows and it works [02:32] casperDk: and then show me the free space report with "pastebinit <( df )" [02:33] one card for both screens [02:33] klandestine: most GPUs have a minimum of 2 outputs [02:33] I'll try it later when I'm motivated and let you know how it works [02:33] casperDk: is it looking stable now? [02:34] still removing packages [02:34] 75 % [02:34] So i upgraded my lan drivers, and i'm still getting irregular disconnections from my network. [02:34] casperDk: the trick to keeping the kernels under control is to run "apt autoremove" ocassionally to ensure the older kernels are removed. By default the last 3 kernels are kept to ensure a back-stop if the newer kernel fails [02:35] its a trick i should have learned long ago i guess [02:35] ASMJunkie: is this some proprietary/out-of-tree driver ? [02:35] Nope. Intel drivers from the offical site [02:35] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Pr3B7rXj43/ [02:35] casperDk: there is an automatic config you can use with unattended-upgrades [02:35] It happened on windows and updating the drivers fixed it [02:36] that would maybe be good to get setup === Dreaman is now known as Blade [02:38] casperDk: "sudo apt install unattended-upgrades === rafael is now known as Guest85861 [02:39] it say that it is already set to manual install [02:39] casperDk: then edit the config file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades" find the line looking like this and change it to be 'true': Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-Unused-Kernel-Packages "true"; [02:39] what is manual install [02:39] casperDk: good [02:39] casperDk: you'll need sudo/gksudo/pkexec permissions to edit that file [02:40] casperDk: ensure the line does NOT start with a # (comment symbol) [02:41] casperDk: apologies, the comment is // not # ! [02:41] so the command i should run is _ [02:41] casperDk: it means it was installed by a human [02:42] ? [02:42] casperDk: well, the command depends on what your preferred text editor is. Possibly "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades" [02:45] okay i have it opened, but i really see allot of commanded lines [02:46] but i do not see a line like Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-Unused-Kernel-Packages [02:48] can i pastebin the file and get you to look at it? [02:48] TJ do you get the message as a personal if i write your name in it? [02:49] casperDk: can you search the file using Ctrl+F then type "Kernel-Packages" [02:50] casperDk: it's possible, as that is 16.04, this option wasn't available [02:50] there is no hit with kernel [02:50] casperDk: OK, so we can't set it then. I suspect it was introduced more recently [02:50] ok [02:51] casperDk: so, it's a case of remembering to run "sudo apt autoremove" ocassionally - which is what that option would cause to happen [02:51] but running the apt autoremove package every month or so would do the trick to right? [02:51] cool [02:51] casperDk: I think you've got it fixed [02:51] thanks so much for you help [02:51] it was a pleasure.. [02:51] you're welcome, hopefully you've learned a lot too :) [02:52] sadly i am not sure i remember all of it if i end up in the same situation in the future, but i feel like i know more now, than i did a few hours back! [02:52] you know where to come to ask first, though :) [02:53] i will get to bed now, before it gets to light. [02:53] indeed! [02:53] before you make a mistake :) [02:53] Linux is totally a lot of learning but it's a nice feeling when you get something working [02:53] same here! dawn is coming up fast [02:53] thanks again, this is really what makes open source so nice [02:54] troykrahn: indeed... I love the power of the shell and all the tools, and the accurate data you can get about every aspect...and more importantly, feed that data into other tools [02:54] troykrahn: not only linux, any free software is like that. you get an opportunity to expand its documentation or improve its codes [02:54] TJ-: don't think shell is needed, not for everyone at least [02:54] Sveta: it is if you want to process system data effeciently [02:54] haha [02:55] GUIs are prescriptive - if the programmer didn't add the function, you can't do something, and can't pipe data out to another tool [02:55] TJ, do you have a gui on your system or are you only running shell? [02:55] casperDk: I generally run in a tmux bash shell, tmux is the login shell [02:55] it's possible to modify the app to add the function, TJ-.. or to request such a modification :) [02:55] casperDk: but I use Xubuntu [02:55] oh good :) [02:56] Sveta: try doing that for all 10000+ GUI packages Sveta [02:56] yes [02:56] maybe i catch you around TJ, if not, i wish you a long and prosperous life! [02:56] all I need is /proc /sys /dev + bash sed and awk :) oh, and weechat :) [02:57] Hello [02:57] casperDk: enjoy yourself [02:57] I want to ask something... Im trying to install a printer... [02:57] I have Ubuntu 18.04, but my sistem says it lacks some drivers but in the ubuntu software the driver is missing... [02:57] :( [02:58] elyon: make/model of printer? does it need drivers ? [02:58] Canon iP1800 / yep, drivers. [02:58] elyon: is the printer networked or connected via USB or something else? [02:58] USB [02:58] elyon: drat! networked printers are usually so much easier! [02:58] try installing with apsfilter [02:59] apsfilter, its a app? [02:59] downloadable at ubuntu software? [02:59] Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake [02:59] This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes. [02:59] Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence? [02:59] it's a shell script [02:59] Ok [03:00] I use it and it's usually pretty helpful [03:00] Ill try now... [03:03] what's the mlocate for... is it different from find ? [03:03] fishcooker, man mlocate will guide you to your answer [03:05] fengshaun: is it like indexing the location structure of files or folders? [03:05] looks like it [03:05] man updatedb [03:06] looks like it is written to database? [03:06] hmmm, if elyon comes back, tell them that printer-driver-gutenprint should have the driver [03:06] !info printer-driver-gutenprint [03:06] printer-driver-gutenprint (source: gutenprint): printer drivers for CUPS. In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.13-2 (bionic), package size 404 kB, installed size 920 kB [03:19] Helo [03:19] Hey [03:22] Hmm, where are the source files' directory (the ones downloaded by "apt source 'package'")? [03:22]