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bluesabreochosi: also floated the question in #gtk+00:29
bluesabre> GNOME/GTK devs... how open would you be to accepting patches to Adwaita for Xfce-gtk3 components? These would be minimal patches to get some visual parity with the default GNOME styles.00:29
Unit193bluesabre: Ever figure out the reject?00:30
bluesabreUnit193: found the email. "Rejected by Ɓukasz Zemczak: Deprecated by a newer upload."00:31
Unit193Ah cool.00:31
bluesabreBut....00:31
bluesabreI don't see a newer upload anywhere00:31
Unit193https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+upload/18706715/+files/catfish_1.4.6-0ubuntu0.18.04.1_source.changes ?00:32
bluesabreThat's the one that got mysteriously canned00:32
bluesabrefrom what I can tell at least00:32
bluesabreor did it not actually get rejected?00:33
Unit193https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=00:33
bluesabrehuh00:33
bluesabreI guess they unrejected it00:33
bluesabreit was gone from that queue this morning once I saw the reject00:34
Unit193I see it listed in both places.00:34
bluesabrePleasantly confusing :D00:35
Unit193When in doubt, point to both queues and ask what's up? :P00:35
bluesabre:D00:36
bluesabrehm00:37
bluesabrethey have different dates00:37
bluesabremaybe two folks sponsored without one of them communicating00:37
bluesabreguess that's fine00:37
Unit193So are we still moving forward with elementary?00:38
bluesabreyeah00:39
bluesabrewill work on the makefile stuff soonish00:40
Unit193Please don't break it or make any of the voodoo people angry. :300:40
bluesabreif somebody sponsors https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/elementary-xfce/+bug/1784523, we'll move the other side over and have a svg theme for a few days :)00:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1784523 in elementary-xfce (Ubuntu) "Please sponsor elementary-xfce 0.12-1ubuntu1 for package transition" [Undecided,New]00:40
Unit193Heh yeah saw that.00:41
bluesabreseemingly, all of my debian and ubuntu sponsors are on vacation :D00:42
Unit193You mean it's as if they went to Debconf?00:42
bluesabreIs that going on?00:42
bluesabreAnd usually when folks go to debconf they have wild and crazy packaging parties aiui :D00:43
Unit193That has happened.00:43
bluesabremaybe I can get lamby to sponsor some stuff for me00:43
Unit193...You're going with the leader of the Debian project..?00:49
bluesabrewho better to sponsor :D01:21
ochosibluesabre: i think i can imagine the answer re:adwaita-xfce11:11
ochosibluesabre: they will say we should do it like gnome apps and include custom css in our app code directly, see e.g. nautilus11:11
ochosibluesabre: imo that's a bad idea as gtk changes and you can never know which version of thunar will be used with which version of gtk...11:12
ochosibluesabre: that's why - so far - i have kept those patches as minimal as possible, to ensure they will work also in the future11:13
bluesabreochosi, isn't that more insulated now? Not many changes since 3.2211:18
bluesabreAnd we're not targeting gtk4 :)11:18
bluesabreMy interest was in making stock xfce with adwaita closer to stock gnome... Dark panel, dark tabwin, light elsewhere11:22
bluesabreNot blocky11:22
bluesabreYou get the idea :)11:22
bluesabreNot quite gnome lite, but not ugly defaults11:24
TJ-'scuse me asking, but what is the meaning of "Adwaita" ? I see it's available across several backends11:42
bluesabreTJ-: it's the default gnome/gtk theme11:47
bluesabreand what most other themes are based on11:47
TJ-right, but what does the word "Adwaita" mean? what original language is it, or is it 'made-up' 11:49
TJ-the only thing I could find is it was a Tortoise in India!11:49
bluesabreoh, that I have no idea :D11:57
TJ-it doesn't exactly trip off the tongue :)12:00
flocculantbluesabre: xfwm4 crashed - got the .crash file if that's any use19:50
ochosibluesabre: we already use stuff like the - fairly generic - .panel css class in the xfce4-panel19:51
flocculanthi ochosi :)19:51
ochosibut yeah, in theory we could try to either use classes that get the "correct" adwaita look by default (notifyd uses .osd by default) or ask the gnome folks to accept patches (which i think they won't)19:51

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