=== chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [06:50] Fletxa was added by: Fletxa === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [07:19] Sup fletxa [08:16] @Fletxa, Fletxa check out this for UBports info … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome [08:43] UiTNvpPq14 was added by: UiTNvpPq14 [10:09] Hi mates, do you think it could be considered usable Ubuntu Touch at this point? I have a Oneplus one and I am really tempted to try it! [10:11] UT has been usable as a daily driver for me since May 2015 ;) [10:12] and with UBports is way better, so... [10:12] @deedend, Depends if you're happy with 15.04 or want to wait for 16.04 [10:15] Lots of depending on your needs. Oneplus one is a good device experience though 👍 [10:16] But is it stable? [10:17] I mean, for calling and surfing Internet is stable enough? Also, the camera is fully working? WiFi, 3/4g etc is all working well? [10:18] @deedend, Do you need Whatsapp? That is mostly the big turnoff for many people. Internet browsing, email client, sms and phone works all fine. [10:19] No I don't need WhatsApp, maybe Telegram [10:19] Or some sort of client for matrix [10:21] Then you can definitely try it. I'd recommend 16.04/rc, which i have on the tablet. Youtube has some problems there with the normal browser, but the app and the next browser work fine with it. I still have 15.04/stable on the phone but will migrate soon. [10:21] @deedend, Yes thats all working [10:21] Browser has some issues sometimes, but a new one will come later this year [10:22] Telegram works with my App but is also a bit wonky haha [10:22] @deedend, You can use Fluffychat and/or uMatriks in UT [10:26] allsafepro was added by: allsafepro [10:27] Oh good. It's a while now that I wanted to try Ubuntu on my phone, in the next few weeks I'll probably have a bit of time to play with it! [10:27] BTW you can see all the available apps in https://open-store.io/ [10:28] Thank you [10:29] 👍 [10:30] Dekko2 needs fixing for 16.04 though of course webmail is fine [10:51] hi, looking for BQ E4.5 battery [11:40] Hello!Could you open the permission for homepage translation? There are many obvious grammatical errors on the Chinese homepage. [11:47] @njlyf2011, There should be no lock? [12:40] Carlos was added by: Carlos [14:33] so does this work the way i think it does? [14:34] looks like it does hehehe [14:42] for those curious i sent this from matrix hehe [14:42] ok [14:51] Hmm how does it work [14:55] just loggin in i suppose if you don't mind giving your telegram phone# to the bot :3 [14:55] https://t2bot.io/telegram/ [14:58] a bridge of a different privacy concern [14:59] indeed [15:00] but that's only if you want to puppet your telegram account [15:00] otherwise tis just like any other bridge [15:01] my bad.. i lost my oneplus one in beach salt water. its not getting power on. Now i want to buy new phone to try this ubuntu touch , which phone i should buy ? [15:02] speaking of which is it true the nexus 5 is the only one that currency "supports" convergence? [15:02] @Fuseteam, no [15:03] because "convergence" is not limited to "wired external display" [15:03] or even just "external display" [15:03] @dohbee, then which one sir. [15:03] most apps do not support full convergence, no matter what you have [15:04] so all the "core" devices do? [15:04] @Donreddy, you should buy whichever one you think is best for you, and is on the supported devices list. availability is too varied to give a definite suggestion, and i don't know what you want to do with it beyond have a UT phone [15:04] @Fuseteam, all devices support it. that's the whole point [15:05] are u guys going to introduce new devices in near future then tell me. i will buy that one. :D [15:05] though not all devices have HDMI/MHL/SlimPort, or miracast, or any sort of external display support, and they don't all necessarily have all of other things [15:05] calling any one thing "convergence" is a lie [15:06] unless all apps needed can be usable on all device configurations, "convergence" has not actually been reached :) [15:06] so there real question is do all core devices have external display support [15:07] @dohbee, true :3 [15:07] @Fuseteam, no [15:28] Hy everybody [15:28] We have our own matrix.org homeserver 😎 [15:28] ubports.chat [15:28] Everybody is invited for testing and using. [15:29] So please register here: https://ubports.chat/_matrix/client/#/register [15:30] And than you can use FluffyChat of uMatriks from the openstore as UT client or https://riot.im/ as webclient or Riot for Android, iOS etc [15:36] @dohbee, which do not 💭 [15:56] @Fuseteam, BQ E4.5/E5HD do not have any wired support, and I think cannot do Miracast either [15:56] MX4 might b the same [15:57] Nexus 5 and bq M10 only,I think have the wired solution [15:57] sorry, Nexus 4,5,7 :) [16:01] all nexus devices have slimport yes [16:01] m10 has pure hdmi out [16:01] pro5 has miracast [16:01] most devices should be able to do miracast at least [16:09] @bastos777, Good day. This is not officially supported or promoted, or marketed by UBports. This is something in the very early stages and that is why we are not talking about it yet. We have not reviewed security, encryption, legal stuff, nor many other things so please understand this is *not* an official UBports 'th [16:09] ing' yet. We hope it will be but it is not yet. [16:10] @dohbee, Does pixel 1 and 2 have slimport support? [16:11] @technicalbird, nope [16:11] Will type c help in this? Can it pull off any external display? [16:11] @technicalbird, they don't have ubports [16:12] type c has nothing to do with it [16:12] But gen 3.1 can handle video output [16:12] @technicalbird, Nope. Google didn't implement support for it. [16:12] I mean usb 3.1 [16:13] @technicalbird, well, it depends on device manufacturer to enable it. it's not an inherent feature in type c connector [16:13] one has to build a device with displayport over usb-c into the device [16:16] @bastos777, I think if it has not been announced by the News Channel is because it isn't properly finished yet, so better don't start using it until the starting shot ;) [16:21] Sorry. Have been too enthusiastic. You are completely right @advocatux and @wayneoutthere [16:21] No problem 👍 [16:23] Don't worry. both @advocatux and myself are SUPER excited about Matrix and UT and we will be promoting it internally and working as hard as we can. We will announce that 'almost finished thing' soon, which can be used with matrix.org IDS very soon. Matrix perfectly fits the UT philosophies and is very exciting and let's ke [16:23] ep it going! [16:23] [Edit] Don't worry. both @advocatux and myself are SUPER excited about Matrix and UT and we will be promoting it internally and working as hard as we can. We will announce that 'almost finished thing' soon, which can be used with matrix.org IDs very soon. Matrix perfectly fits the UT philosophies and is very exciting and l [16:23] et's keep it going! [16:24] (I wish I could code... ) [16:24] @wayneoutthere, Just Do It [16:27] PartTimer was added by: PartTimer [16:27] Does mi TV support wi di [16:30] 🙄 [16:30] no idea, and it's not support by UT [16:31] Does fire stick support UT wireless cast [16:31] probably nobody knows [16:32] Any supported TV's [16:32] asking for every possible device in here isn't going to get you a good answer, and it's just kind of rude to do [16:32] anything that supports Miracasst should theoretically be able to have UT cast to it [16:32] beyond that, you're going to have to actually test it [16:32] please do not keep asking in here [18:43] mimecar was added by: mimecar [18:43] hi again [18:46] Hello [18:49] @PartTimer, Recommend this dongle: [18:49] https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01C9YTI9S/ref=dp_ob_neva_mobile [18:50] @mimecar, \o/ [18:50] I've return 😋 [18:50] That's really good news :) [18:51] @mimecar Welcome back Migue! [18:53] Hello! This may not be the right place to ask (if so, I apologise, and maybe someone can point me somewhere else)... I'm suddenly having problems connecting to google sites (search, gmail, youtube, ...) on Ubuntu 14.04 on my laptop. Both on chrome and firefox, only google sites, everything else requiring web access works just fine. I [18:53] was wondering if anybody had this porblem before. Thanks [18:53] @Mi Tra, #ubuntu channel on Freenode IRC is the Ubuntu on PCs support chat [18:55] @dohbee, Thanks. Just out of curiosity, is there any Telegram group for Ubuntu on PC? [18:56] i don't know. not any official ones afaik [18:56] Ok, thanks again [18:58] @Mi Tra, Try https://askubuntu.com/ [18:59] @advocatux, Yeah, I'm looking there already! Thank you [18:59] 👍 [19:02] Ah, @mimecar! Is it alright if I answer your question here? [19:02] yes, no problem [19:02] Awesome. [19:03] So, Read the Docs is funded by donations, but you don't unlock any new functionality by donating. Instead, for every $5 per month you donate, you can remove ads from one project (and a translation of another project counts as a project) [19:04] then, if I have several languages, it would be $5 by every language [19:04] Yes, or you could continue to have ads. As you can see on, for example, https://sparkbot.readthedocs.io, the ads aren't very intrusive. [19:04] You can use a custom domain as well. That's how docs.ubports.com is set up. [19:05] then, it will have ads... [19:05] $5 month, yes [19:05] $5 * x languages, bad idea 😃 [19:06] One gotcha, it is very easy for translators to break formatting for your docs [19:06] I'm sure that you've found that problem in your own travels on gitbook, though [19:06] @mimecar, I don't like ads but Read the Docs ads are always related and really, really, tiny [19:07] on Gitbook I create the other languages manually [19:07] Oh, well then you're in the clear [19:07] Sphinx supports gettext which breaks each paragraph out into its own string [19:07] So if you have any gettext editor you'll be able to translate your docs more easily [19:08] Yes, I would like other users to be encouraged to reduce the burden of translations a bit. English and Spanish would continue to lead mainly me. [19:08] You're golden, then. :D [19:08] First I will migrate the current documentation and then I will see the best way to manage the translations. [19:09] mmm, is this about the UT book? [19:09] Ubuntu Touch Programming Course [19:09] previously on Gitbook [19:09] ah [19:09] https://mimecar.gitbooks.io/ubuntu-touch-programming-course/content/en/ [19:10] If you haven't done anything too crazy (table are a pain), `pandoc` can convert markdown into ReStructuredText automatically [19:10] any plans to update the user book? [19:10] You can use Markdown in Sphinx, too, but that's just dirty. :P [19:10] Also I don't have experience with translating that [19:11] First that I generate the documentation and then I will optimize it 😉 [19:11] Gitbook has also given me headaches [19:11] Right. First thing would be the conversion from md to rst, then creating your table of contentts [19:12] If you need any help just ping me, as always. Or you can find topic experts in @UBports_docs [19:12] Would it be better to create a project in version control and migrate little by little? [19:12] I learned from the Halium documentation that a mixed project brings its own headaches [19:14] ok [19:14] Do apps appear on PDF / epub format? [19:14] adds [19:14] [Edit] Do ads appear on PDF / epub format? [19:14] They do not [19:14] that's nice [19:15] then, I will create a new project and migrate the current docs with pandoc [19:17] Some notes right away: … - Use `sphinx-autogen` to get started … - Put images in a `_static/` directory at the root of your sources [19:18] Hmm, maybe RTD has a template theme [19:18] [Edit] Hmm, maybe RTD has a template project [19:18] I will check, there's a template [19:18] Yep! https://github.com/rtfd/template [19:19] the F is especially important there :P [19:19] You'll only really want the `docs/` folder. [19:20] One change that I'll make if you don't since I'm very opinionated on it is turning off `collapse_navigation` like so: https://github.com/ubports/docs.ubports.com/blob/515dd82c26090701c879c615196b71a27ed80c04/conf.py#L98 [19:20] :P [19:54] artP2 was added by: artP2 [19:59] Peter Krenn was added by: Peter Krenn [20:02] Hi everybody, im using mx4 ubuntu edition with Ubuntu 16.04 (2018-W32) and erased the open store app. How can i reinstall it? many thanks .... [20:06] You can download the Xenial version from the web based OpenStore [20:12] > m10 has pure hdmi out … oooh that's interesting [20:12] would you describe it a little bit exacter, pls [20:13] @Stereofont, which you can't install via gui, without having the open store 😆 [20:14] oh oh .... [20:16] so the m19 has both anbox andpure hdmi out that sounds like a lot of fun :3 [20:16] @Peter Krenn, Go to https://open-store.io/app/openstore.openstore-team and download the click package for xenial. Then you can install it with UT Tweak tool or using the CLI [20:16] If you want to use the CLI, see https://open-store.io/about === ptx0_ is now known as ptx0 [20:31] oooh tweak tools [20:35] also, because open-store is a preinstalled app, you can just delete the broken symlink that gets created under `/opt/click.ubuntu.com/.users/phablet` or similar, and reboot, and the app should re-appear [20:39] @dohbee my Libertine container has crashed again. Last time I think you helped by advising the deletion of a .json file somewhere. Any idea where it might be,again? [20:41] depends on what you mean by "crashed" [20:41] but should be under config iirc [20:42] under `~/.config/` i mean, in whatever libertine directory is in there [20:42] or it might also be under `~/.cache/` next to the container [20:44] ContainerConfig.py woes again. The scope tells me I need to create a new container, which is false. [20:44] Thanks, I'll look for it based on that. [20:56] installing with "pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted OpenStore_0.96_armhf.click" i got error "Schwerwiegender Fehler: could not resolve: OpenStore_0.96_armhf.click" [20:57] You need to type the correct package name and probably the path to that package [20:58] OpenStore xenial version es 2.42 [21:06] with the right version it worked! many thanks ..... [21:11] Got the .json replaced. Helps to have a trusty backup of the file, either on the device or from another (in my case from my Pro 5). I should add this to documentation about the container, because otherwise, less savvy users might choose to unnecessarily destroy and rebuild the container. [21:12] @Peter Krenn, I'm glad is working now … If you install UT Tweak tool you don't have to use the CLI to install click packages anymore ;) [21:16] PtIjdfme4 was added by: PtIjdfme4 [21:17] Anyone having problems updating a Nexus 5 today? Running 16.04RC and updating Version 9, it keeps bringing me to the recovery screen... [21:19] @advocatux: thanks and i installed it, but how in detail can i use it for installing? [21:20] @Peter Krenn, https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/ut-tweak-tool-109 [21:20] In that blog there are a lot of useful tutorials [21:21] In short, click on System, and then install package [21:22] oh, so easy? phanstastic .... [21:22]