| === pstolowski|afk is now known as pstolowski | ||
| _novgorod | hey everyone, looking for a bit of help with what i'm hoping to be a minor (crossing fingers*) audio issue in the latest lts.. anyone keen to offer aid? | 07:32 |
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| willcooke | morning all | 07:35 |
| _novgorod | morning willcooke | 07:35 |
| _novgorod | willcooke, well, actually it's about half past midnight here but still, morning/evening.. whichever suits ya | 07:35 |
| willcooke | :)) | 07:36 |
| willcooke | Hi _novgorod | 07:36 |
| _novgorod | willcooke, greetings to you | 07:37 |
| _novgorod | willcooke, you make the leap to 18.04 yet? | 07:40 |
| willcooke | _novgorod, oh yes! Long ago | 07:41 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 07:43 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke | 07:43 |
| _novgorod | willcooke, right on. i only just recently. i grew fond of my previous dual boot and didn't want to make the leap right away | 07:43 |
| willcooke | _novgorod, nothing wrong with being a bit cautious :) | 07:45 |
| duflu | _novgorod, what is the problem exactly? | 07:48 |
| _novgorod | not so much cautious as i was in love with the old set of partitions. the dual boot served me well. in the end, it was the lack of space on my drive.. needed more | 07:48 |
| _novgorod | duflu, not exactly sure, i know that i took an update recently and out of neglect failed to read it, it started at boot and i'm sure i just clicked away to get to something else. either way, my audio has been finicky at best | 07:50 |
| _novgorod | duflu, it's coming out rather muffled now, as opposed to crisp. | 07:50 |
| duflu | _novgorod, the first thing to check is that you're not using any audio extension cables. Poor quality connections can completely destroy the sound, even remove voice/instruments completely | 07:51 |
| duflu | (how that happens I don't know, but it does) | 07:51 |
| _novgorod | duflu, i don't cable | 07:51 |
| _novgorod | bluetooth from time to time, but never cable. | 07:52 |
| _novgorod | bluetooth audio is fine btw | 07:52 |
| _novgorod | no problems there. | 07:52 |
| duflu | _novgorod, want to reword that? If it's not cable and not bluetooth then what is it? :) | 07:53 |
| _novgorod | duflu, system audio.. on it's own without bluetooth is damaged. | 07:53 |
| duflu | _novgorod, sounds non-obvious. I would suggest making a bug so we can see the details. Just run "ubuntu-bug pulseaudio" | 07:54 |
| duflu | _novgorod, another idea: check your sound settings and ensure you have not allowed volume over 100%, because going over 100% will usually cause distortion | 07:56 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 07:57 |
| duflu | Morning oSoMoN | 07:57 |
| _novgorod | duflu, i don't exceed that i'm aware of, which part of the bug would be most helpful? | 07:58 |
| duflu | _novgorod, not sure yet. Just submit everything that gets attached automatically | 07:59 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu | 08:00 |
| Laney | hey hey | 08:02 |
| duflu | Morning Laney | 08:05 |
| seb128 | lut oSoMoN, en forme ? | 08:09 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, how are you? | 08:09 |
| _novgorod | duflu, sent | 08:09 |
| * duflu waits for mail | 08:10 | |
| oSoMoN | seb128, ça va, et toi? | 08:11 |
| oSoMoN | hey laney | 08:11 |
| seb128 | ça va bien, il fait moins chaud ! | 08:11 |
| oSoMoN | looks like it's raining for good now, we've had a few showers yesterday and last night but they never lasted more than 2 mins | 08:12 |
| Laney | hey duflu seb128 oSoMoN | 08:15 |
| * Laney is decent | 08:15 | |
| Laney | looking cloudy today | 08:16 |
| * Laney hopes for rain | 08:16 | |
| willcooke | Laney, how is the allotment holding up? Anything still alive? | 08:18 |
| Laney | hey willcooke | 08:18 |
| Laney | we've put half of a reservoir on it over the past few weeks | 08:19 |
| Laney | thank goodness for hosepipes /o\ | 08:20 |
| Laney | corn is getting nice and fat | 08:20 |
| Laney | winter squash are already making vines all over the place | 08:20 |
| _novgorod | duflu, just checked status, service not found :/ | 08:22 |
| duflu | _novgorod, can you share the text output from 'ubuntu-bug pulseaudio' ? | 08:30 |
| willcooke | Laney, when Brexit comes and we're all starving, I'll come to you cap-in-hand for a bowl of soup then | 08:30 |
| willcooke | https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/09/im-already-stockpiling-readers-preparing-for-a-messy-brexit | 08:30 |
| willcooke | !! | 08:30 |
| duflu | That title makes more sense with the ': | 08:31 |
| willcooke | :) | 08:32 |
| willcooke | With articles like that they need to stock pile readers | 08:32 |
| duflu | And this is the room where I keep my subscribers | 08:32 |
| _novgorod | duflu, i don't have screenshot setup | 08:33 |
| willcooke | duflu, lol | 08:33 |
| duflu | _novgorod, just paste a little bit of the error message and surrounding text here? | 08:33 |
| * duflu hates having to debug the bug reporting tool but this isn't the first time | 08:35 | |
| _novgorod | duflu, wouldn't let me copy/paste/right click inside of bug window.. here is what i got | 08:39 |
| _novgorod | duflu, Error: comman ['pacmd'.list'] failed with exit code 1: Home directory not accessible: Permission denied. No PulseAudio daemon running, or not running as session daemon. | 08:39 |
| _novgorod | Error: command* | 08:39 |
| duflu | _novgorod, OK. Don't use 'sudo'. Just run the command as yourself | 08:39 |
| duflu | _novgorod, but if "No PulseAudio daemon running" then that's the first problem. You won't have sound at all (in most apps) if that's true | 08:40 |
| duflu | That's something I do have a solution for, but it isn't the muffled problem you originally mentioned | 08:41 |
| _novgorod | duflu, pulse list that gave error previously doesn't list error anymore, still no copy/paste function. it not reads off a list of a dozen indexes | 08:43 |
| duflu | _novgorod, when you run 'ubuntu-bug pulseaudio' you should eventually be shown a web link. You need to click on and follow that link to finish creating the bug report | 08:44 |
| _novgorod | duflu, currently i have the same muffled sound in vlc, spotify, and streaming media. i do not have sound adjusting volume. | 08:45 |
| duflu | _novgorod, OK. If the commands don't work for you then please just create a new bug on this web page: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+filebug | 08:46 |
| duflu | Then when you have a bug open you will be able to paste more details about what you see in that | 08:47 |
| _novgorod | duflu, creating new bug now | 08:50 |
| _novgorod | duflu, i feel like this process used to be easier.. | 08:55 |
| _novgorod | duflu, link sent | 09:01 |
| jamesh | and now there's hail | 09:03 |
| _novgorod | duflu, Thanks for your help with all this, much appreciated. i'll check back on the bug a bit later. | 09:25 |
| duflu | _novgorod, no problem. My day ends soon and it sounds like yours should have already | 09:26 |
| _novgorod | duflu, you're correct. i'm overdue by about 5 maybe 6 hrs on my end. | 09:26 |
| _novgorod | duflu, again, many thanks! | 09:27 |
| tseliot | Laney: hi, it looks like this merge got lost in your last upload of gdm in cosmic. Can you fix it, please? https://code.launchpad.net/~albertomilone/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+git/gdm3/+merge/351810 | 09:30 |
| Laney | ok, sorry about that | 09:32 |
| tseliot | np, I'm just trying to get LP: #1778011 fixed for good | 09:34 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1778011 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu Bionic) "SRU: PRIME Power Saving mode draws too much power" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1778011 | 09:34 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, what version of libreoffice are we aiming at having in cosmic? | 09:40 |
| Laney | tseliot: there you go | 09:56 |
| tseliot | Laney: thanks. Did you update git too? | 09:59 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, 6.1.0 | 09:59 |
| oSoMoN | thanks for filing that tracking bug, btw | 09:59 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, ok, I opened a bug about it so it's listed on version, might be worth a trello card also? | 10:00 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, yw! | 10:00 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, yep, trello card just created | 10:00 |
| seb128 | thx | 10:00 |
| oSoMoN | https://trello.com/c/PPpAxvXb/197-libreoffice-61-in-cosmic | 10:00 |
| Laney | tseliot: yeah | 10:10 |
| duflu | seb128, if I am redesigning Ubuntu patches from scratch (rebasing) on a newer Debian package and have zero history from Ubuntu then should the changelog still show the Ubuntu history or is it fine to only have one Ubuntu entry above Debian? | 10:13 |
| seb128 | I never bothered to keep old changelog entries but I know some people disagree wtih that | 10:15 |
| duflu | Yeah I have previously kept the Ubuntu changelog and just inserted the latest one from Debian, which is neither | 10:16 |
| seb128 | in practice if a package get in sync and delta again we don't bother remerging old changelogs as well | 10:16 |
| seb128 | which I think is not that different | 10:16 |
| duflu | seb128, yes it is a "sync" and I am rewriting Ubuntu patches from scratch. So just use the Debian history? | 10:16 |
| seb128 | sounds fine to me yes | 10:17 |
| duflu | Previous update: 2017-08-09 | 10:17 |
| duflu | Today: 2018-08-09 | 10:17 |
| duflu | It's fate | 10:17 |
| seb128 | hehe | 10:21 |
| seb128 | what package is that? | 10:21 |
| duflu | seb128, mpv | 10:22 |
| willcooke | :) | 10:22 |
| seb128 | back to video decoding work? ;) | 10:23 |
| tseliot | Laney: thanks! :) | 10:23 |
| duflu | seb128, yeah there are bugs we can soon close. And it's convenient that Debian has jumped to the latest now | 10:24 |
| === pstolowski is now known as pstolowski|lunch | ||
| === pstolowski|lunch is now known as pstolowski | ||
| seb128 | Laney, can you help with gbp? I'm getting confused again :/ | 14:48 |
| seb128 | I did "gbp clone pkg-gnome:gnome-bluetooth", downloaded http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gnome/sources/gnome-bluetooth/3.28/gnome-bluetooth-3.28.2.tar.xz and did a gbp import-orig if the tarball | 14:49 |
| seb128 | it seems to have worked but upstream/latest is ahead of 1 commit compared to origin/upstream/latest and seems to be missing the upstream individual commits between .0 and .2 | 14:51 |
| seb128 | it feels wrong but I'm unsure what I missed or what didn't work | 14:51 |
| seb128 | hum, maybe I need a -upstream-vcs-tag= since the tags are not standard | 14:55 |
| seb128 | right, that was it | 15:03 |
| seb128 | Laney, unping | 15:03 |
| Laney | nice | 15:11 |
| Laney | you can add "upstream-vcs-tag = invalid" or something to debian/gbp.conf, that makes it error instead of not taking the tag at all | 15:12 |
| seb128 | sounds like maybe a good default for pkg-gnome components? | 15:13 |
| Laney | yeh I think a couple already have it | 15:13 |
| seb128 | (or maybe "good default" at all, unsure how tagging is handled in other projects) | 15:13 |
| seb128 | k, so I can just commit such changes? | 15:13 |
| Laney | yep | 15:13 |
| seb128 | thx | 15:13 |
| Laney | might want to check I didn't make it up though | 15:14 |
| Laney | well I didn't make it up, but that specific line might not be exactly right | 15:14 |
| seb128 | k, I'm going to look for other cases in pkg-gnome and copy what they did to be sure :) | 15:15 |
| Laney | # Upstream tags in this project are not conveniently named for this | 15:15 |
| Laney | upstream-vcs-tag = invalid | 15:15 |
| Laney | gnome-settings-daemon | 15:16 |
| seb128 | thx | 15:17 |
| seb128 | interesting one as well, https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/eog/commit/dcb4deb1 | 15:17 |
| seb128 | the | 15:17 |
| seb128 | "[import-orig] | 15:17 |
| seb128 | postimport = dch -v%(version)s New upstream release; git add debian/changelog; debcommit | 15:17 |
| seb128 | " | 15:17 |
| seb128 | bit | 15:17 |
| seb128 | I wonder if that should be standard/default as well | 15:17 |
| Laney | I wouldn't mind it without the debcommit | 15:18 |
| * Laney likes to add NEWS entries in there | 15:19 | |
| seb128 | yeah, I don't think that one is needed | 15:19 |
| seb128 | but dch/add would be nice | 15:19 |
| Laney | also patch-numbers = False I think would be a good one | 15:19 |
| seb128 | should perhaps be a default in gbp though, I don't know why you wouldn't want to do that | 15:19 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, the new ghostscript is unhappy on ppc64el, the build seems to stuck on " ./soobj/aux/echogs -e .dev -a- ./soobj/xpswrite -include ./soobj/vector -include ./soobj/libtiff" and get killed after 2 hours, same after a retry now | 15:22 |
| seb128 | that leads to cups/cups-filter/etc to fail to build also on that arch | 15:22 |
| seb128 | which is going to make them block in cosmic-proposed until ghostscript is resolved | 15:23 |
| === pstolowski is now known as pstolowski|afk | ||
| Laney | epic yak shaving session is over | 17:08 |
| * Laney enjoys being on the bleeding edge gnome train again | 17:09 | |
| Laney | night! | 17:09 |
| seb128 | night Laney! | 17:11 |
| seb128 | & well done :) | 17:11 |
| willcooke | bye bye everyone | 18:39 |
| willcooke | /drnick | 18:39 |
| robert_ancell | ximion, could you upload appstream-glib 0.7.11 to debian? Should be an easy update | 21:22 |
| robert_ancell | ximion, also should probably discuss if it makes sense to add the developer verified quirk into the AppStream spec | 21:23 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, oh I set up a build server on canonistack for my builds. | 21:34 |
| robert_ancell | I seem to be getting failures that don't happen on the GNOME builders - did you have to do anything special to set it up? | 21:34 |
| robert_ancell | Also, I have to add it for every project which is a pain, but I think not possible to work around unless you belong to a group you control. | 21:35 |
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