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hggdhtomreyn: late, but erge is dealt with00:02
tomreynhggdh: doh. thanks.00:03
tomreyni was surprised they stopped when i asked for it00:05
hggdhstill, they did it, at least twice today00:08
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lotuspsychjegood morning to all04:17
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Awwhhh ... freash meat for the grinder :)04:18
lotuspsychjelol04:18
lotuspsychjehey Bashing-om04:19
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: WB ... I have not been on long .. but has been brisk in main .04:20
lotuspsychjeoh nice04:20
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: upgrade lts path fixxed?04:20
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Have not seen the status of the upgrade path to this time . My cosmic install went south on me .. and spent the time messing about and then getting my data back off .. just in case I do that nuclear thing .04:22
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: there's a bug on it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-menus/+bug/176689004:23
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1766890 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Bionic) "package gnome-menus 3.13.3-6ubuntu3.1 failed to install/upgrade: triggers looping, abandoned" [Undecided,In progress]04:23
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Yepper, the one I suspect: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glib2.0/+bug/178549804:29
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1785498 in glib2.0 (Ubuntu) "g_atomic_ref_count_dec: assertion 'g_atomic_int_get (arc) > 0' failed" [Undecided,Confirmed]04:29
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: im staying off non-lts for a while again04:31
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Oh .. was but a testing install for one of the developers .. and I liked 18.10 sooo much I kept it - falling back now to 18.04 . In A few days when the fix lands will see what I can do to fix and/or re-install.04:33
lotuspsychjekk04:35
EriC^morning all05:06
Bashing-omEriC^: \o WB :)05:07
EriC^thanks Bashing-om :)05:07
Bashing-omEriC^: Progress made on http://pchelp.site/ ?05:08
EriC^not much Bashing-om05:08
Bashing-omEriC^: Bummer .. much traffic on the site ?05:09
EriC^not at all i think05:09
Bashing-omEriC^: Sheeshh .. I guess we going to have to push just a tad .05:10
lotuspsychje!info nvidia-39005:40
ubot5Package nvidia-390 does not exist in bionic05:40
lotuspsychje!info nvidia-driver-39005:40
ubot5nvidia-driver-390 (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-390): NVIDIA driver metapackage. In component restricted, is optional. Version 390.48-0ubuntu3 (bionic), package size 368 kB, installed size 1066 kB05:41
Bashing-om!info nvidia-driver-390 cosmic05:41
ubot5nvidia-driver-390 (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-390): NVIDIA driver metapackage. In component restricted, is optional. Version 390.77-0ubuntu1 (cosmic), package size 369 kB, installed size 1071 kB05:41
lotuspsychjeaha its been pushed to cosmic05:42
lotuspsychjeshould be used on bionic too05:43
Bashing-omIt is that time for me .. we do this more later \o05:45
lotuspsychjenite nite05:46
EriC^nitey nite Bashing-om05:46
Bashing-omYall take care - I be snooz'n .05:47
olivier[m]7Good morning07:38
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ducassegood morning08:01
ducasse\o lordievader08:02
lordievaderHey ducasse08:02
lordievaderHow are you doing?08:02
ducasseall right here, and yourself?08:02
lordievaderDoing good here. Set up a new (Matrix) homeserver and fixed my IRC issues with that.08:04
ducassebarely tried matrix, irc is all i need08:07
ducasseman, this spam is getting really old08:07
lordievaderWhich spam?08:09
ducassethe 'Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog' stuff that's been pouring in recently08:10
lordievaderAh, right. Yeah, that was already going on before I fell off the line.08:11
ducasseyou'd think they got bored at some point08:11
lordievaderIt's automated, right? Guess it is a 'turn on and forget' type of thing.08:12
ducassepossibly, i've no idea how they do it in practice08:13
BluesKajHowdy folks09:57
lotuspsychjehey BluesKaj10:00
BluesKajhey lotuspsychje10:00
lotuspsychjelunchtime, salmon-asperges rolls salad10:07
BluesKajasparagus perhaps?10:18
acheronuklol10:19
JimBuntubugz can be a pain11:01
BluesKajhe's a troll, mostly and otherwise a pita11:03
BluesKajand an idiot :-)11:04
BluesKajruns interference11:11
leftyfboh no, he's back?11:12
BluesKajyup11:12
JimBuntuleftyfb, yup11:12
BluesKajwell, got stuff to do ... later11:14
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: i only know it in my language :p11:32
lotuspsychjedell is doing 50% off back to school action12:00
lotuspsychjeacheronuk: whats the status on lts upgrade path?12:26
acheronuklotuspsychje: not seen any news apart from the fix is now in cosmic, so presumably won't be long before its pushed to other releases12:29
lotuspsychjethank you acheronuk12:29
lotuspsychjeacheronuk: wich package should be looking for that libc?12:30
acheronuklotuspsychje: its from glibc12:33
lotuspsychjeok tnx acheronuk12:33
lotuspsychjetomreyn: and kdeuser on gnome haha13:24
tomreyni'm not religious13:26
lotuspsychjelol13:26
BluesKajguess I shouldn't interfere, but his fstab looks wrong no such thing as /swapfile , it should just be swap after the uuid or the /dev/14:09
EriC^^BluesKaj: in 18.04 it uses /swapfile instead of a swap partition14:10
JimBuntuYou can use swap files or partitions. It is claimed that neither is really faster/better than the other. I'm guessing they had a swap file in their root, hence the /swapfile entry... but I have not looked at their fstab14:11
BluesKajEriC^^, I used 16.04  awhile back and didn't see that in fstab14:11
EriC^^yeah it's a 18.04 thing14:11
EriC^^frankly it's easier and better14:12
daftykinsit makes clean installs look like Ubuntu has become really bloated until you discover it xD14:12
BluesKajwell, I'm uuiding my swap partition and my boot time is 7 secs14:12
EriC^^just that usually people would come here with a misconfigured booting and i'd usually tell them to trim a few mb's from their swap partition to create a required boot partition, now that's over i guess :D14:12
JensStill no 16.04>18.04 upgrade available :(14:12
EriC^^his problem isn't related to the swap, i wish i knew how to read those dreaded systemd plot's though14:13
EriC^^this was his graph, "wget -O /tmp/plot.svg http://termbin.com/k1ea && xdg-open /tmp/plot.svg"14:14
leftyfbJens: It's due to this bug still being worked on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-menus/+bug/176689014:14
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1766890 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Bionic) "package gnome-menus 3.13.3-6ubuntu3.1 failed to install/upgrade: triggers looping, abandoned" [Undecided,In progress]14:14
EriC^^what do the red lines mean? i get that the time is how long it took to start the service, and services are running at the same time, waiting for eachother etc, but what's the red lines mean?14:14
Jensleftyfb: I see. So I should be safe in forcing the upgrade on my GUI-less server then?14:14
leftyfbJens: probably14:15
BluesKajI would still bet it's his fstab that causing problems14:15
JensI'll take a snapshot before in any case. I just didn't want to bother diving into this if upgrades were known to be broken.14:15
EriC^^BluesKaj: he did paste it though, he only has a root "/" and /swapfile14:16
EriC^^hmm come to see it..14:16
BluesKajEriC^^, I'll bet that doesn't include all his partitions ...anyway bbl14:18
lotuspsychjeaha gnome-menus in my updates here15:22
lotuspsychjeacheronuk: ^15:23
lotuspsychjegnome-menus (3.13.3-11ubuntu1.1)15:24
lotuspsychjelibc-bin (2.27-3ubuntu1)15:24
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acheronuklotuspsychje: the fix needed is actually https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/1:18.04.2316:29
acheronuknot sure if they will insist of the usual 7 days in -proposed on that16:30
lotuspsychjeacheronuk: lets hope not, alot of users getting impatient :p17:01
acheronukI asked in #ubuntu-release, but no reply yet17:02
lotuspsychjetnx for following up acheronuk17:02
pragmaticenigmaimpatient is the understatement... I bookmarked that link though in hopes it answers questions more quickly18:07
pragmaticenigmaquestion for the group. Installation of the Signal app: What is more common do you think, installation if the Google Chrome instant app or using the Snap install method?18:08
Quackerytesting18:20
leftyfbQuackery: testing failed18:21
acheronuklotuspsychje: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-August/004556.html18:26
acheronukso beginning of next week it seems for upgrades being turned on, assuming no more issues18:27
QuackeryI'm currently running ubuntu 16.04 on my laptop. The labtop's internal keyboard has a few keys that are causing problems, so I use an external keyboard and have turned off the internal keyboard by inserting i8042.nokbd in a line in /etc/default/grub   . What I would like to know is ....when i get the prompt from ubuntu to upgrade to 18.04, will a. the keyboard stay switched off.   b. will i have to reinsert the same line into grub.     c. will i18:30
Quackeryhave to use a different solution to turn off the internal keyboard?????18:30
EriC^Quackery: is that an instruction to a module?18:33
pragmaticenigmaQuackery: This is more inline with a support question, you might want to head over to the #ubuntu channel for support18:33
Quackerysorry i just realized i'm in the wrong channel!!!!!18:34
pragmaticenigmaQuackery: all good, no worries18:34
QuackeryEriC^ one changes the line   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i8042.nokbd"   and this turns off the internal keyboard.18:36
pragmaticenigmaQuackery: to answer your question, when the upgrade happens, the pre-install check will see that the /etc/default/grub was modified and will ask if you to take the new version, keep the old version, or use diff to compare. I would recommend you back-up /etc/default/grub off system, take the new version and re-add your option.18:36
Quackeryis there likely to be differences between the old grub and the new grub? I just hope the internal keyboard doesn't play up while I'm trying to turn it off!18:41
pragmaticenigmaQuackery: if there are conflicts, the upgrade tool will alert you18:42
pragmaticenigmaQuackery: As long as you are following best practices, which it appears you are, your system should be just fine. It's always a good idea to make a back-up before an upgrade anyways, so that you can restore missing or broken later18:43
QuackeryI always back up my home directories/subdirectories. I'll copy grub to my home directory, back it up, install the complete new version of 18.04.01, and hope for the best!!18:47
QuackeryThe backup tool will work after i upgrade to 18.04.01, won't it?18:50
daftykinsyou're in the wrong channel Quackery - please do as you were recommended18:51
pragmaticenigmaYeah, at this point Quackery it's best to head on over to #ubuntu18:51
Quackerysure thing, sorry about that. bye18:51
pragmaticenigmagoing to assume qwebirc18157 must be trolling18:52
EriC^why pragmaticenigma18:53
EriC^oddly enough many of these qweb guys replace p with b, like labtop and dublicated and whatnot, wonder if its a country specific thing18:54
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EriC^^infra recorder? what is that?19:03
oerheksthe lack of choosing a name stops me helping qwebirc dudea19:03
oerhekserr dudes19:04
EriC^^lol imagine if 10 of the qweb guys join19:04
pragmaticenigmaEriC^^: infrarecorder is a cd burning tool19:04
EriC^^it would be a disaster to keep track of them by the numbers at the end19:04
EriC^^ah i see19:04
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