[00:02] <hggdh> tomreyn: late, but erge is dealt with
[00:03] <tomreyn> hggdh: doh. thanks.
[00:05] <tomreyn> i was surprised they stopped when i asked for it
[00:08] <hggdh> still, they did it, at least twice today
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:18] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Awwhhh ... freash meat for the grinder :)
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> lol
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> hey Bashing-om
[04:20] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: WB ... I have not been on long .. but has been brisk in main .
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> oh nice
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: upgrade lts path fixxed?
[04:22] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Have not seen the status of the upgrade path to this time . My cosmic install went south on me .. and spent the time messing about and then getting my data back off .. just in case I do that nuclear thing .
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: there's a bug on it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-menus/+bug/1766890
[04:29] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Yepper, the one I suspect: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glib2.0/+bug/1785498
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: im staying off non-lts for a while again
[04:33] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Oh .. was but a testing install for one of the developers .. and I liked 18.10 sooo much I kept it - falling back now to 18.04 . In A few days when the fix lands will see what I can do to fix and/or re-install.
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> kk
[05:06] <EriC^> morning all
[05:07] <Bashing-om> EriC^: \o WB :)
[05:07] <EriC^> thanks Bashing-om :)
[05:08] <Bashing-om> EriC^: Progress made on http://pchelp.site/ ?
[05:08] <EriC^> not much Bashing-om
[05:09] <Bashing-om> EriC^: Bummer .. much traffic on the site ?
[05:09] <EriC^> not at all i think
[05:10] <Bashing-om> EriC^: Sheeshh .. I guess we going to have to push just a tad .
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-390
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-driver-390
[05:41] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-driver-390 cosmic
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> aha its been pushed to cosmic
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> should be used on bionic too
[05:45] <Bashing-om> It is that time for me .. we do this more later \o
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> nite nite
[05:46] <EriC^> nitey nite Bashing-om
[05:47] <Bashing-om> Yall take care - I be snooz'n .
[07:38] <olivier[m]7> Good morning
[08:01] <ducasse> good morning
[08:02] <ducasse> \o lordievader
[08:02] <lordievader> Hey ducasse
[08:02] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[08:02] <ducasse> all right here, and yourself?
[08:04] <lordievader> Doing good here. Set up a new (Matrix) homeserver and fixed my IRC issues with that.
[08:07] <ducasse> barely tried matrix, irc is all i need
[08:07] <ducasse> man, this spam is getting really old
[08:09] <lordievader> Which spam?
[08:10] <ducasse> the 'Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog' stuff that's been pouring in recently
[08:11] <lordievader> Ah, right. Yeah, that was already going on before I fell off the line.
[08:11] <ducasse> you'd think they got bored at some point
[08:12] <lordievader> It's automated, right? Guess it is a 'turn on and forget' type of thing.
[08:13] <ducasse> possibly, i've no idea how they do it in practice
[09:57] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[10:00] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> lunchtime, salmon-asperges rolls salad
[10:18] <BluesKaj> asparagus perhaps?
[10:19] <acheronuk> lol
[11:01] <JimBuntu> bugz can be a pain
[11:03] <BluesKaj> he's a troll, mostly and otherwise a pita
[11:04] <BluesKaj> and an idiot :-)
[11:11] <BluesKaj> runs interference
[11:12] <leftyfb> oh no, he's back?
[11:12] <BluesKaj> yup
[11:12] <JimBuntu> leftyfb, yup
[11:14] <BluesKaj> well, got stuff to do ... later
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: i only know it in my language :p
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> dell is doing 50% off back to school action
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> acheronuk: whats the status on lts upgrade path?
[12:29] <acheronuk> lotuspsychje: not seen any news apart from the fix is now in cosmic, so presumably won't be long before its pushed to other releases
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> thank you acheronuk
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> acheronuk: wich package should be looking for that libc?
[12:33] <acheronuk> lotuspsychje: its from glibc
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx acheronuk
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: and kdeuser on gnome haha
[13:26] <tomreyn> i'm not religious
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:09] <BluesKaj> guess I shouldn't interfere, but his fstab looks wrong no such thing as /swapfile , it should just be swap after the uuid or the /dev/
[14:10] <EriC^^> BluesKaj: in 18.04 it uses /swapfile instead of a swap partition
[14:11] <JimBuntu> You can use swap files or partitions. It is claimed that neither is really faster/better than the other. I'm guessing they had a swap file in their root, hence the /swapfile entry... but I have not looked at their fstab
[14:11] <BluesKaj> EriC^^, I used 16.04  awhile back and didn't see that in fstab
[14:11] <EriC^^> yeah it's a 18.04 thing
[14:12] <EriC^^> frankly it's easier and better
[14:12] <daftykins> it makes clean installs look like Ubuntu has become really bloated until you discover it xD
[14:12] <BluesKaj> well, I'm uuiding my swap partition and my boot time is 7 secs
[14:12] <EriC^^> just that usually people would come here with a misconfigured booting and i'd usually tell them to trim a few mb's from their swap partition to create a required boot partition, now that's over i guess :D
[14:12] <Jens> Still no 16.04>18.04 upgrade available :(
[14:13] <EriC^^> his problem isn't related to the swap, i wish i knew how to read those dreaded systemd plot's though
[14:14] <EriC^^> this was his graph, "wget -O /tmp/plot.svg http://termbin.com/k1ea && xdg-open /tmp/plot.svg"
[14:14] <leftyfb> Jens: It's due to this bug still being worked on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-menus/+bug/1766890
[14:14] <EriC^^> what do the red lines mean? i get that the time is how long it took to start the service, and services are running at the same time, waiting for eachother etc, but what's the red lines mean?
[14:14] <Jens> leftyfb: I see. So I should be safe in forcing the upgrade on my GUI-less server then?
[14:15] <leftyfb> Jens: probably
[14:15] <BluesKaj> I would still bet it's his fstab that causing problems
[14:15] <Jens> I'll take a snapshot before in any case. I just didn't want to bother diving into this if upgrades were known to be broken.
[14:16] <EriC^^> BluesKaj: he did paste it though, he only has a root "/" and /swapfile
[14:16] <EriC^^> hmm come to see it..
[14:18] <BluesKaj> EriC^^, I'll bet that doesn't include all his partitions ...anyway bbl
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> aha gnome-menus in my updates here
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> acheronuk: ^
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> gnome-menus (3.13.3-11ubuntu1.1)
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> libc-bin (2.27-3ubuntu1)
[16:29] <acheronuk> lotuspsychje: the fix needed is actually https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/1:18.04.23
[16:30] <acheronuk> not sure if they will insist of the usual 7 days in -proposed on that
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> acheronuk: lets hope not, alot of users getting impatient :p
[17:02] <acheronuk> I asked in #ubuntu-release, but no reply yet
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> tnx for following up acheronuk
[18:07] <pragmaticenigma> impatient is the understatement... I bookmarked that link though in hopes it answers questions more quickly
[18:08] <pragmaticenigma> question for the group. Installation of the Signal app: What is more common do you think, installation if the Google Chrome instant app or using the Snap install method?
[18:20] <Quackery> testing
[18:21] <leftyfb> Quackery: testing failed
[18:26] <acheronuk> lotuspsychje: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-August/004556.html
[18:27] <acheronuk> so beginning of next week it seems for upgrades being turned on, assuming no more issues
[18:30] <Quackery> I'm currently running ubuntu 16.04 on my laptop. The labtop's internal keyboard has a few keys that are causing problems, so I use an external keyboard and have turned off the internal keyboard by inserting i8042.nokbd in a line in /etc/default/grub   . What I would like to know is ....when i get the prompt from ubuntu to upgrade to 18.04, will a. the keyboard stay switched off.   b. will i have to reinsert the same line into grub.     c. will i
[18:30] <Quackery> have to use a different solution to turn off the internal keyboard?????
[18:33] <EriC^> Quackery: is that an instruction to a module?
[18:33] <pragmaticenigma> Quackery: This is more inline with a support question, you might want to head over to the #ubuntu channel for support
[18:34] <Quackery> sorry i just realized i'm in the wrong channel!!!!!
[18:34] <pragmaticenigma> Quackery: all good, no worries
[18:36] <Quackery> EriC^ one changes the line   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i8042.nokbd"   and this turns off the internal keyboard.
[18:36] <pragmaticenigma> Quackery: to answer your question, when the upgrade happens, the pre-install check will see that the /etc/default/grub was modified and will ask if you to take the new version, keep the old version, or use diff to compare. I would recommend you back-up /etc/default/grub off system, take the new version and re-add your option.
[18:41] <Quackery> is there likely to be differences between the old grub and the new grub? I just hope the internal keyboard doesn't play up while I'm trying to turn it off!
[18:42] <pragmaticenigma> Quackery: if there are conflicts, the upgrade tool will alert you
[18:43] <pragmaticenigma> Quackery: As long as you are following best practices, which it appears you are, your system should be just fine. It's always a good idea to make a back-up before an upgrade anyways, so that you can restore missing or broken later
[18:47] <Quackery> I always back up my home directories/subdirectories. I'll copy grub to my home directory, back it up, install the complete new version of 18.04.01, and hope for the best!!
[18:50] <Quackery> The backup tool will work after i upgrade to 18.04.01, won't it?
[18:51] <daftykins> you're in the wrong channel Quackery - please do as you were recommended
[18:51] <pragmaticenigma> Yeah, at this point Quackery it's best to head on over to #ubuntu
[18:51] <Quackery> sure thing, sorry about that. bye
[18:52] <pragmaticenigma> going to assume qwebirc18157 must be trolling
[18:53] <EriC^> why pragmaticenigma
[18:54] <EriC^> oddly enough many of these qweb guys replace p with b, like labtop and dublicated and whatnot, wonder if its a country specific thing
[19:03] <EriC^^> infra recorder? what is that?
[19:03] <oerheks> the lack of choosing a name stops me helping qwebirc dudea
[19:04] <oerheks> err dudes
[19:04] <EriC^^> lol imagine if 10 of the qweb guys join
[19:04] <pragmaticenigma> EriC^^: infrarecorder is a cd burning tool
[19:04] <EriC^^> it would be a disaster to keep track of them by the numbers at the end
[19:04] <EriC^^> ah i see