[00:31] <guillermo> exit
[00:40] <BenLubar> is there a parameter I can add to my kernel startup string to make this screen last less than 30 seconds? https://i.imgur.com/e0uUlWD.png
[00:50] <dfgg17> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[00:50] <dfgg17> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[00:50] <dfgg17> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[00:51] <tomreyn> BenLubar: this is the grub menu. it displays before the kernel is loaded, so kernel options wont help there.
[00:52] <BenLubar> tomreyn: is that the "set timeout=30" line in grub.cfg?
[00:54] <tomreyn> BenLubar: looks like it
[00:56] <BenLubar> thanjs
[00:56] <tomreyn> for post-installation boots. the logic for timeouts is in /etc/grub.d/00_header while the timeouts themselves are defined in /etc/deefault/grub
[01:37] <Guest52012> p
[01:38] <Guest52012> there is someone can help me to find exactly what the hash of my own password in /etc/shadow file?
[01:38] <leftyfb> Guest52012: huh?
[01:39] <leftyfb> Guest52012: you're not going to decode that into a password if that's what you're asking
[01:39] <burzos> Do you have a reasonable idea of what the password is?
[01:40] <kaddi> hi guys, I have an issue with resolv.conf. I am connecting to a vpn which adds its own nameservres and searchspaces. However i have two suffixes server1.company.com and server2.company.com. I can reach PC.server1.company.com by pinging PC, but the resolution fails for the server2.company.com.. If I try to reach a PC on server2.company.com it just doesn't return a result
[01:42] <Guest52012> leftyfb, burzos , I explain my problem, I don't know how my computer REFUSE my password (I can't use sudo command), so I want to try to decode the hash (probably is in SHA512) but if I read the shadow file I have a long string and I do not understand what is the portion of the hash
[01:43] <leftyfb> Guest52012: you're not going to decode it.
[01:43] <burzos> The DNS resolution fails for server2.company.com?
[01:44] <kaddi> yes
[01:44] <leftyfb> Guest52012: boot into recovery mode and use "passwd <username>" to reset your password
[01:44] <edenist> hi all. Does anyone know whether there is a plan to push thunderbird 60 to the repos? Or will that not occur until the 18.10 release?
[01:44] <edenist> [by repos, I mean 16.04 and 18.04 at this stage]
[01:45] <kaddi> @burzos not quite. so PC2.server2.company.com is reachable. But PC2 should be sufficient because I've added server2.company.com to the search domains. However that doesn't work
[01:45] <leftyfb> !latest | edenist
[01:45] <burzos> Is the authoritative DNS server for company.com configured correctly? ie, it has an A or CNAME for server2.?
[01:46] <leftyfb> Guest52012: https://itsfoss.com/how-to-hack-ubuntu-password/
[01:46] <burzos> Ok, I see what you mean, sorry.
[01:48] <kaddi> @burzos I'm not the most experienced with these things. Technically I can just use the full path, but I would like to understand why it doesn't work and if possible how to fix it.
[01:48] <leftyfb> kaddi: this is IRC, not slack. @nick doesn't work here
[01:49] <kaddi> it's been too long. What do you use to highlight someone. just the name?
[01:50] <guiverc> kaddi, yep just the name
[01:50] <leftyfb> kaddi: type the name or partial name and hit tab
[01:50] <kaddi> thanks.. Can't believe I forgot that..I've used IRC for over 10 years (and then not for 2 years >.>)
[01:51] <cHawk> Hi. I am using ubuntu 18.4 and I moved my ssd to a new box, where I currently have no means to connect a display. The problem is, the network interface is probably named something else than eth0. Is there a command that I can type blind (next problem, I don't know if english or german keyb layout) that runs dhcp on all network interfaces, so I can ssh into it?
[01:53] <edenist> leftyfb: thanks for the reply. I was aware of the policy but I do know there are sometimes exceptions [firefox, for example] due to it being a potentially high-profile target. TB60 is a bit of a double edged sword though. As the list of fixes is enourmous so too are the other changes which will break compat with existing installations. I guess I will plan either way and watch this space
[01:54] <leftyfb> cHawk: mount the drive in your other pc, write a script that runs something like "ls /sys/class/net > /home/<your user>/ifaces.txt" and call the script in /etc/rc.local. Boot the SSD once, shut it down and remount. You'll have all the interfaces written to /home/<your user>/ifaces.txt. Use that to edit /etc/network/interfaces and set them up as dhcp. Mind you, any interfaces that are down/not connected will take about 5 minutes to time out
[01:55] <cHawk> leftyfb, thanks!
[01:56] <leftyfb> cHawk: you could get clever and just have thw script read those ifaces and then write out the interfaces file and start up with interfaces and then ssh. It would be a fun challenge, but likely quicker to just follow my previous advice
[01:58] <cHawk> leftyfb, is dhcpcd installed per default?
[01:58] <MrSassyPants> After an update, I don't have sound on my internal sound card anymore. Driver seems present, pulseaudio displays the device, I can route sound to it, but nothing coming from the speakers.
[01:58] <MrSassyPants> dmesg reports a previously unseen error: snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: azx_get_response timeout, switching to polling mode: last cmd=0x202f2d00
[01:59] <MrSassyPants> So did the kernel update break snd_hda_intel ?
[01:59] <Guest52012> leftyfb, I resolve it!
[01:59] <arooni> question; [N]  ~  sudo mount /media/HardDriveArooni ;; i had to run that on startup;  how come its not mounted automatically (its a network drive)
[01:59] <Guest52012> Thank you!
[01:59] <arooni> /192.168.1.1/Main /media/HardDriveArooni cifs guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777,gid=1000,auto,_netdev,vers=1.0 0 0  ;; is the entry in fstab
[02:01] <cHawk> leftyfb, I typed dmesg | tee out blind, so I skipped a step
[02:02] <cHawk> removed hdd, changing netplan config
[02:02] <cHawk> thanks for your help
[02:02] <sushichef> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[02:03] <arooni> anyway i can default all audio to my bluetooth connection
[02:03] <sonicwind> fffffffffffff\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
[02:03] <sonicwind> oops sorry
[02:04] <arooni> and not just default
[02:16] <Psi-Jack> Annnnd there it goes again. Appindicator/Systray icons gone, just because locking/unlocking the desktop.
[02:21] <Cynosure_> Does anyone know how to get the amount of ram in your system?
[02:23] <TimeDoctor> _cyno: free -m on the command line
[02:24] <vfw> CyberHacker: free
[02:24] <AlexMax> How do I change the PATH environment variable for a program I launch from GNOME?
[02:24] <AlexMax> ...or I could change it globally for my entire desktop, that would work too
[02:30] <Psi-Jack> AlexMax: ~/.xsessionrc, export PATH=$PATH:newpath
[02:31] <vfw> AlexMax: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[02:31] <AlexMax> Yeah I found that
[02:31] <AlexMax> It appears that the environment is currently coming from .profile
[02:32] <AlexMax> is there a way to get displaymanager to look at my .zshrc instead?  I use zsh
[02:33] <Psi-Jack> No.
[02:33] <Psi-Jack> If you set it in ~/.xsessionrc, it'll trickle down to zsh's environment as well, not that that matters so much.
[02:33] <Psi-Jack> The point you want is, the environment to be there for X.
[02:39] <kOiRaMiEs> hi i need help
[02:39] <kOiRaMiEs> i wanto to enter to a channel, and i cant
[02:39] <Psi-Jack> Ask
[02:40] <Psi-Jack> That doesn't sound like an Ubuntu support question.
[02:40] <kOiRaMiEs> :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[02:40] <Psi-Jack> For IRC help, there is #freenode
[02:40] <kOiRaMiEs> ah no, it is not an ubuntu question
[02:40] <kOiRaMiEs> but i dont know where i can to do it
[02:41] <kOiRaMiEs> ok, thanks
[02:48] <khanm78> Hey all, need some hit n run help, just installed ubuntu latest, my scren it not stretching to the edge of my tv, any ideas? im using nvidia gtx 650ti
[02:49] <kaddi> hi, so I just effed up tremendously
[02:50] <rfleming> Question:  Is 18.04 optimised for SSD?
[02:50] <kaddi> I was here 20min ago to ask about dns not quite working. I've disabled/reenabled avahi-daemon to see if disabling would let resolv.conf work correctly. Only now I no longer can resolve any DNS request.
[02:50] <kaddi> Is there a 'simple' way for me to reinitalize avahi so that i can at least get back online?
[02:50] <rfleming> kaddi: you shouldn't be messing with resolv.conf yourself.
[02:51] <kaddi> rfleming: I wasn't the resolv.conf was populated correctly, but ubuntu wasn't handling it correctly. I was hoping that killing avahi would let me use the auto-populated resolv.conf
[02:51] <guiverc> kaddi, i think you mentioned making changes to /etc/resolv.conf; if certain services are restarted (or on reboot) that file is re-created.. so anything in that file is gone (why it has the wanring)
[02:52] <rfleming> kaddi: first question.  What Ubuntu are you using?
[02:52] <kaddi> guiverc: right now the resolv.conf (on boot) only has the nameserver: 127.0.1.1 line in it, which is what it showed before as well
[02:52] <kaddi> rfleming: 18.04 with kde interface in case that matters
[02:53] <rfleming> kaddi: OK, so that means netplan is configured to be managed by Network Manager?
[02:53] <guiverc> kaddi, sorry, I probably remembered wrong (or mixed two different people..) - my bad
[02:53] <khanm78> if nayone has any ideas how i can stretch my screen so i get edge to edge would be nice
[02:53] <kaddi> rfleming: yes, it says autocreated by network manager at the top of resolv.conf
[02:53] <rfleming> kaddi: but resolv.conf isn't your issue
[02:53] <rfleming> kaddi: what's the original issue?
[02:54] <rfleming> kaddi: symptoms, etc.
[02:54] <kaddi> rfleming: right now the issue is that all DNS requests time out. So I can't get online. I can ping 8.8.8.8 but I can't get google.com resolved
[02:55] <rfleming> kaddi: I'm going to assume if you add nameserver 8.8.8.8 to resolv.conf, it works?
[02:55] <kaddi> rfleming: beforehand I was trying to get ubuntu to recognize that I have two domains in the search (when I connect per VPN) and to actually try the second domain when the first one doesn't resolve. But I don't particularly care about that until I can get back online ;)
[02:55] <kaddi> rfleming: ok.. I'm stupid. i haven't tried that yet. Lemme reboot and see
[02:55] <rfleming> no need to reboot
[02:56] <rfleming> also, since you mentioned two domains... did you do something to /etc/hosts?
[02:58] <rfleming> kaddi: also, can you run `mncli device show | pastebinit`?
[02:58] <khanm78> can anyone help with stretching my display?
[02:58] <rfleming> !pastebinit | kaddi
[02:59] <rfleming> khanm78: what exactly do you mean...
[03:00] <khanm78> I have just installed ubuntu, my screen is 3" in on all sides, like a c64 load screen, image is perfect resalution is max but it just not reaching the outer edges of the screen
[03:01] <khanm78> im using a gtx 650TI,
[03:01] <ryuo> khanm78: probably using under or over scanning.
[03:01] <illuminated> so if you install a different display manager, does the install change the symbolic link in /etc/systemd/display-manager.service which, on my system right now, points to /lib/systemd/system/gdm.service to the service unit file of the newly installed display manager?
[03:01] <khanm78> its like i need to scale the screen size but not the resalution
[03:01] <rfleming> so you have the image in the center of your screen, but it doesn't make it's way across the entire screen?
[03:02] <khanm78> i started with the defualt, then tried the nvidia prop and its alt prop but same issue
[03:02] <kaddii> rfleming i can't edit resolv.conf it automatically reverts to nameserver 127.0.1.1
[03:02] <ryuo> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=145204
[03:02] <ryuo> khanm78: ^
[03:02] <ryuo> khanm78: try messing with xrandr and see if it helps.
[03:03] <ryuo> if it does, then you'll know what's going on.
[03:03] <khanm78> im a noob, what and how?
[03:03] <rfleming> kaddiii: that's normal on reboot
[03:03] <khanm78> as in how do i get to or open xrandr
[03:03] <rfleming> kaddiii: you set a static IP address?
[03:03] <kaddiii> rfleming no
[03:04] <ryuo> khanm78: oh... it's... a command line utility for configuring display outputs.
[03:04] <khanm78> kk, guess i have some reading to do :)
[03:04] <ryuo> khanm78: it's useful for diagnosing display oddities, but a bit hard to use if you're a novice.
[03:04] <kaddiii> rfleming it didn't change back on reboot. It changed a second after I saved it. I couldn't resolve anything. (I'm talking from the windows install I have on this machien, as I can't connect to anything on the linux install)
[03:05] <rfleming> kaddiii: can you run `cat /etc/netplan/01-netcfg.yaml | pastebinit`?
[03:05] <khanm78> not scared to learn, just need some directions if u know what i mean
[03:05] <kaddiii> pastebinit will likely not work, but I'll try :) Thanks a lot for the help
[03:05] <rfleming> kaddiii: ok
[03:05] <rfleming> what you want to do is this...
[03:06] <ryuo> khanm78: first just run xrandr to see what outputs are connected.
[03:06] <khanm78> ok mile stone done, my hdmi audio from gfx working, :)
[03:07] <rfleming> kaddiii: I think you've made some changes to Network Manager, and somehow you have a bad DNS setting somewhere
[03:07] <rfleming> kaddiii: You'll need to reset all of your network manager settings and see what happens
[03:07] <khanm78> looking at it now.
[03:07] <kaddiii> rfleming what would be the best way to do it. Just move /etc/networkmanager to a backup and restart the service?
[03:08] <rfleming> kaddiii: that I'm not sure of
[03:08] <kaddiii> hehe ok. I'll start by running the command you gave me and will look at the stuff in /etc/networkmanager to see if something jumps to the eye
[03:09] <khanm78> ok
[03:09] <ryuo> khanm78: what's the output device? a TV?
[03:09] <rfleming> kaddiii: what you can do is run `nmcli device show` to see what your settings are for DNS and stuff
[03:09] <rfleming> kaddiii: then backtrack it somehow
[03:09] <khanm78> im running 1920x1080@60H
[03:09] <ryuo> khanm78: no, what's it outputting TO?
[03:09] <khanm78> yes tv, normaly on windows i would use nvidia to stretch the image till it fits
[03:10] <ryuo> Ah...
[03:10] <ryuo> We have a case of over/under scanning then.
[03:10] <khanm78> unfortunatly on here with nvidia no options that i see
[03:10] <ryuo> you're currnelty using the proprietary drivers?
[03:10] <khanm78> ohh, yes 55" panasonic lcd
[03:10] <khanm78> tv
[03:11] <khanm78> via hdmi from gfx card.
[03:11] <ryuo> i'd say try running nvidia-settings if you haven't already used that.
[03:11] <rfleming> ahh, with my samsung, I had to change the picture stretch mode
[03:11] <rfleming> (on the TV itself)
[03:11] <khanm78> 2 min ill convert back to nvidia drivers too
[03:11] <fretegi> tomreyn, howdy
[03:11] <ryuo> You're using nouveau right now?
[03:13] <khanm78> yes the original defualt, i tried the nvidias 390 and 340 but same issue so changed back to x-org for help.
[03:13] <khanm78> setting nvidia 390 propietary tested as driver.
[03:13] <rfleming> khanm78: are the edges cut off, or you have a black border?
[03:14] <kaddi> rfleming: I don't have a 01-netcfg.yaml file in my netplan folder. only 01-network-manager-all.yaml
[03:14] <rfleming> kaddi: yeah, I realized that... that's if you have ubuntu server
[03:14] <khanm78> I have a black boarder around the screen
[03:14] <rfleming> kaddi: what was the result of nmcli device show?
[03:15] <khanm78> full image just a 3" boarder all side
[03:15] <ryuo> I recall having this issue when I was using fglrx in the past. It was using doing something similar because it assumed HDMI went to a TV, which it didn't.
[03:15] <kaddi> rfleming: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ddYdTbB3q8/
[03:15] <ryuo> I had to configure it to do regular output.
[03:15] <khanm78> i wouldnt mind in my case hdmi does go to a tv.
[03:15] <ryuo> But, it could be the TV or the video output that's the problem.
[03:16] <ryuo> it depends who is doing this process.
[03:16] <kaddi> rfleming: I've added a second nameserver instead of renaming the 127.0.1.1 and that seems to hold for now. so i'm on the linux machien right now and online
[03:16] <ryuo> anyway i need to go.
[03:16] <rfleming> kaddi: your first dns server is 172.20.0.1
[03:16] <rfleming> is that server up and running as DNS?
[03:17] <rfleming> kaddi: OOOOOOoooooOOOooooooooh! O.o
[03:17] <kaddi> I have no idea. Might be from the hotel network, but I'd be surprised
[03:17] <rfleming> your route has an auto-assigned IP address
[03:17] <rfleming> kaddi: you try to do static routing?
[03:18] <kaddi> rfleming: not consciously. I'm not even sure what haven an auto-assigned IP route means
[03:18] <kaddi> I do use VPNs, is that something that would happen there?
[03:18] <khanm78> i need an advanced nvidiax settings , wander if its an add on
[03:18] <rfleming> kaddi: wireless yes?
[03:19] <kaddi> rfleming: yes
[03:19] <rfleming> one sec
[03:21] <rfleming> kaddi: delete/forget the wifi connection and re-connect
[03:21] <kaddi> ok, will try
[03:21] <rfleming> kaddi: I think
[03:22] <rfleming> kaddi: I think what's happened, is you do not have Routes set to automatic on your wireless
[03:22] <rfleming> kaddi: give me a second to doublecheck something
[03:22] <rfleming> or not
[03:23] <kaddi> rfleming: deleting/reconnecting removed the nameserver 8.8.8.8 line from the resolv.conf and caused the dns to not resolve again
[03:23] <qwefytuiityty> test mesage
[03:23] <khanm78> hope this works, downloaded driver form nvidia website
[03:24] <kaddi> rfleming: I can ping 172.20.0.1, so there's a chance that it's a working dns server
[03:24] <rfleming> kaddi: did you forget Hyatt_Wifi?
[03:24] <rfleming> kaddi: it's routing
[03:25] <rfleming> you can't get out of your network
[03:25] <kaddi> rfleming: I disconnected, then deleted the connection and reconnected. When I reconnected it said "never used before"
[03:27] <rfleming> kaddi: OK, go to the settings of your connection for Hyatt_Wifi... then go to IPv4 and make sure 'Automatic' is turned on for Routes.  Do the same for IPv6.  For that matter, make sure everything is set to Automatic in the IPv4/IPv6 tabs
[03:27] <rfleming> kaddi: under Details, you should see a 'Default Route' line
[03:27] <rfleming> kaddi: that should (most likely) be that 172.20.0.1 address
[03:28] <khanm78> how do i run a .run file?
[03:28] <rfleming> kaddi: be aware though, I use GNOME, so the screens might be different
[03:28] <kaddi> ok.. rfleming I see a button "routes" when I click on that there's nothing in there. But I have the option to check "ignore automatic routes"
[03:29] <rfleming> khanm78: chmod +x yourfile.run, then ./yourfile.run
[03:29] <kaddi> should I check that?
[03:29] <rfleming> hold a sec
[03:29] <rfleming> anyone in here using KDE?
[03:29] <khanm78> chmod?
[03:30] <rfleming> khanm78: yeah, changes the mode of the file to executable.
[03:30] <rfleming> khanm78: file extensions have no meaning in Linux
[03:30] <rfleming> khanm78: you can run a binary file called myfile.txt if the executable bit is set.
[03:31] <khanm78> allow exicuting file as a program?
[03:31] <rfleming> kaddi: you have access to a Kubuntu live cd?
[03:33] <kaddi> rfleming: no, unfortunately
[03:33] <kaddi> why?
[03:33] <rfleming> was going to suggest you check the settings there
[03:33] <khanm78> ok so on the file properties, i have ticked the allow executing file as program, hope this is the chod you ment
[03:33] <rfleming> kaddi: or at least verify that it isn't the hotel wifi
[03:33] <kaddi> well the wifi was working fine before I stopped and restarted avahi and it's working fine on my phone
[03:34] <kaddi> so I'm fairly sure it's something I did :s
[03:34] <rfleming> I'm assuming you've restarted the computer? :)
[03:34] <kaddi> yes, several times
[03:35] <rfleming> does systemtl status avahi-daemon so everything OK?
[03:36] <rfleming> systemctl
[03:37] <khanm78> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-390.77.run is what i want to run / instal
[03:37] <khanm78> its located in my downloads folder.
[03:37] <khanm78> trow me a bone lol
[03:38] <kaddi> rfleming: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yn9Dz8hcCv/ looks ok, but maybe the messages tell you something?
[03:38] <Bashing-om> khanm78: Nvidia advises not to do that " Note that many Linux distributions provide their own packages of the NVIDIA Linux Graphics Driver in the distribution's native package management format. This may interact better with the rest of your distribution's framework, and you may want to use this rather than NVIDIA's official package." .
[03:39] <rfleming> kaddi: and `ip route`?
[03:39] <khanm78> damn i ask for a bone and u give me t-rex :D
[03:40] <Bashing-om> khanm78: I just joined the channel, I may have missed some background here . What prompts you to install from OEM ?
[03:40] <qwefytuiityty> test mesage
[03:40] <qwefytuiityty> message
[03:40] <kaddi> rfleming: following just happened. I connected to my VPN and deconnected again (VPN works like before, kinda fine) BUT now the resolve.conf says it's manage by systemd-resolved and the nameserver is 127.0.0.53
[03:40] <kaddi> whereas before it was managed by network-manager
[03:40] <rfleming> ok
[03:41] <rfleming> sounds good
[03:41] <rfleming> bet it works now?
[03:41] <kaddi> so could it be a question of telling ubuntu to use systemd instead of networkmanager
[03:41] <kaddi> yeah, the interesting question is what happens on reboot :p
[03:42] <khanm78> i have a a black boarder around my screen, in the past i would have stretched the image to fill the full screen. but now its not able to do it.
[03:42] <kaddi> brb gonna test if it comes back up on reboot
[03:43] <khanm78> i and others here have been trying but i am a noob so most stuff is beyond me.
[03:43] <kaddi> rfleming: it's working now. just rebooted and i get dns capabilities straight away :)
[03:44] <kaddi> thanks for helping me! :)
[03:44] <Bashing-om> khanm78: nvidia has reconfigured the installation lately, and pulls in a ton of additional packages. What release are you running ?
[03:44] <rfleming> there was a static route somewhere... glad it's gone kaddi!
[03:45] <khanm78> i just downloadd this ubuntu tonight, and updates so new?? i think
[03:45] <kaddi> rfleming: by any chance would you have a tip for my initial issue as well? When I connect to my vpn the resolv.conf changes (as it should) to nameserver1, nameserver2 and search sub1.server.com sub2.server.com. But I can only resolve sub1.server.com locally. If I try to raech a PC from the sub2.server.com without specifying the full apth it'll search endlessly
[03:45] <khanm78> cant even tell u the version as i dont know where to look
[03:45] <rfleming> kaddi: yeah, my vpn does the same
[03:46] <kaddi> my boss said it's a 'known ubuntu issue' and there's a fix out there somewhere.. If I want it I have to find it >.>
[03:46] <Bashing-om> khanm78: What release did you install ? And is it still your desire to try the proprietary driver ?
[03:46] <rfleming> kaddi: use nm-connection-editor and then add in the appropriate 'Additional search domains' under IPv4 settings of your VPN client
[03:47] <Bashing-om> khanm78: Terminal command ' lsb_release -a ' will tell ya the release .
[03:47] <khanm78> bashing-om the version i have is: Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS
[03:48] <khanm78> sorry was confirming with console on version, i will take any version / driver that will give me a full screen view
[03:48] <Bashing-om> khanm78: To install the propritary driver ( I am command line oriented ) run in terminal these commands ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . Reboot to see the effect .
[03:49] <eewwwr> hey, is this possiblet to add some sort of line to the terminal (default terminal 18.04), see those 'two separator', two line here below the irc chat and the editor; https://i.imgur.com/egQqYez.jpg
[03:49] <rfleming> kaddi: it's not an Ubuntu problem... the fine people somewhere removed search domains from network manager
[03:49] <rfleming> kaddi: it's only visible through nm-connection-editor
[03:49] <khanm78> np on the updates, but just to let you know i already updated ubuntu via gui
[03:50] <kaddi> rfleming: i actually can't see my vpn connection in the network manager. But the kde interface seems to offer the search domain option
[03:50] <kaddi> now if they work.. no clue :p
[03:51] <rfleming> they should
[03:51] <Bashing-om> !tab | khanm78 this is a busy channel, and easy to miss replys .
[03:51] <khanm78> Bashing-om no updates done all up to date
[03:51] <khanm78> is there a fast restart methode or just full restart?
[03:52] <rfleming> khanm78: there is only restart
[03:52] <Bashing-om> khanm78: A full re-start is suggested . after the upgrade and autoinstall completes .
[03:52] <khanm78> np, worth a ask, be back in a few
[03:52] <rfleming> Linux doesn't deceive you on reboot by storing the OS in a hibernation file before rebooting
[03:53] <rfleming> making boot times fast, as it's really just taking the OS from hiberfile and putting it back in RAM like the people who use gates and windows
[03:54] <rfleming> got on that soapbox for nothing
[03:54] <rfleming> :(
[03:54] <rfleming> and that's why you should NEVER do things that way
[03:54] <khanm78> Bashing-om give yourself a pat on the back, its sorted.
[03:56] <rfleming> kaddi: vpn work?
[03:56] <khanm78> now how about lan issues?
[03:56] <khanm78> this is not a linux issu
[03:57] <kaddi> rfleming: the VPN works, but it's adding two search domains from whcih only the first is actually used by systemd-resolved. It seems. I'm trying to figure out why (and as a bonus why it overwrites the local search domains of my current netowrk)
[03:57] <khanm78> just lan in gen, i got new mobo, and for some reason it infrequintly drops connections.
[03:57] <Bashing-om> khanm78: :) .. gold stars on the IRC status board . What about "LAN issues" ?
[03:57] <illuminated> Bashing-om:  sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall <--- when I man ubuntu-drivers there's no man page for it.. can you link me to information?
[03:58] <khanm78> oo how do i gold star.
[03:58] <cfhowlett> !cookie | khanm78 no more stars ...
[03:58] <rfleming> khanm78: buy an LG product
[03:58] <kaddi> rfleming: But the urgency is not really there with that issue. I can always reach the PCs from the second domain by typing the full path. It wuld just be nice to have it work as intended. :p
[03:59] <rfleming> kaddi: you putting in first.domain.com,second.domain.com in the search domain?
[03:59] <rfleming> has to be a comma separating them
[03:59] <khanm78> my eathernet for some reason just decides to d/c, its not the router, it was the same on windows and on this ubuntu,
[03:59] <Jordan_U> I'm having some trouble running a VM I created with virt-manager a while ago. I made /var/lib/libvirt/ a symlink to /btrfs_external/libvirt/ so that I could store the VM on my external drive. When I open virt-manager, no virtual machines are listed (but there is also no error message). Any ideas? "virsh list --all" doesn't list any virtual machines either. "sudo ls /var/lib/libvirt/images/" lists the
[03:59] <kaddi> yes and systemd-resolve --status puts them both in two separate lines
[03:59] <Jordan_U> images for my VM, but ls without sudo does not as it's "drwx--x--x 1 root root". Should I just give up on "finding" my old VM and just create a new one with the existing disk images?
[04:00] <rfleming> kaddi: you may need to add DNS servers then for your vpn
[04:00] <khanm78> like i said its not cause of ubuntu, and its a new rog mobo, never sen it b4 so just wanted to know if anyone knows anything about it.
[04:01] <khanm78> this will teatch me for upgrading lol
[04:01] <kaddi> rfleming: according to work I have the two DNS servers necessary for the separate search domains. It says DNS Server 10.2.2.7 and 10.2.2.8 and then below DNS Domain sub1.server.com and on the next line sub2.server.com
[04:01] <khanm78> Bashing-om, you saved my sanity, u deserve more than i can give :)
[04:02] <Bashing-om> illuminated: I do not recall where I learned .. and a quick look I do not find references either .
[04:02] <kaddi> rfleming: maybe they're wrong. I unfortunately don't know enough to judge that. But I usually trust the IT guys, they tend to be well organised (and it's working on their linux machines which are debian based)
[04:02] <kaddi> or red hat, I don't remember
[04:03] <Bashing-om> khanm78: Hang in here with ubuntu .. and you will get the chance to pass it on down the line some day :)
[04:03] <illuminated> Bashing-om: well, it may have something to do with installing ubuntu-drivers-common package.  might be a binary provided by that package.
[04:04] <Bashing-om> illuminated: A hint: http://askubuntu.com/questions/449693/how-to-change-graphic-card-driver-using-ubuntu-drivers .
[04:04] <khanm78> i will b staying, its a bit diffrent from how i remember it, also who removed search from ubuntu software
[04:04] <khanm78> looking for skype but cant search :(
[04:05] <cfhowlett> try skypeforlinux, khanm78
[04:05] <eewwwr> hey, is this possiblet to add some sort of line to the terminal (default terminal 18.04), see those 'two separator', two line here below the irc chat and the editor; https://i.imgur.com/egQqYez.jpg
[04:06] <Vic2> I am attempting to apt-get install vlc on 16.04 ... there are many packages needed to install but during the process I get this error several times:
[04:06] <Vic2>                         
[04:06] <Vic2> E: Failed to fetch http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mesa/libgl1-mesa-glx_18.0.5-0ubuntu0~16.04.1_i386.deb  403  Forbidden [IP: 217.31.202.63 80]
[04:06] <khanm78> cfhowlett tis what im looking for but cnt see it so looked for search function but its awol too
[04:06] <cfhowlett> Vic2, sounds like that software mirror might be down for some reason.  change your software sources as a workaround
[04:07] <Vic2> Ok cfhowlett advice on how to do that please?  or should I just try again later?
[04:07] <cfhowlett> khanm78, https://www.skype.com/en/get-skype/
[04:07] <khanm78> I am one blind jackass lol
[04:08] <khanm78> found the search in software and skype. peole this is why you should look well b4 you cry.
[04:08] <rfleming> kaddi: you could always try to use dig and see which server resolves what
[04:09] <cfhowlett> Vic2, system > software update > edit     software settings download from >>>
[04:09] <rfleming> kaddi: like dig @10.2.2.7 server.domain1.com server.domain2.com
[04:09] <rfleming> see if you get an answer for both
[04:09] <rfleming> then try with the other name server
[04:10] <rfleming>    
[04:10] <rfleming> oh, you said FQDN works fine
[04:11] <Vic2> cfhowlett, thank you. :)
[04:11] <cfhowlett> happy2help! Vic2
[04:13] <rfleming> bye all
[04:14] <kaddi> yes
[04:14] <kaddi> rfleming: thanks a lot again for helping me regain internet :)
[04:14] <kaddi> have a good night
[04:15] <kaddi> and yes both DNS servers resolve both DNS domains identically
[04:16] <retrowertz> 1200+ users here compared to other distro channels, does that mean ubuntu is better?
[04:17] <retrowertz> i meant 1200+ more
[04:18] <khanm78> Ladies, Gents and all others, thank you for the help, it 05:15 here and i need sleep. i will be back later and thank you all for your time and patience. nn
[04:19] <illuminated> why would one change display managers?
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> illuminated: the users choice
[04:20] <illuminated> lotuspsychje: yeah, it's users choice, but what possible benefits can one dm have over another?  I mean, it just presents a login screen.  So, why?
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> illuminated: eyecandy, speed, personal like
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> illuminated: in some cases if one DM gives problems perhaps, install another
[04:23] <retrowertz> because its linux, and everything is custimizable
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> +1 retrowertz
[04:29] <illuminated> I imagine that when you install a new DM it relinks /etc/systemd/system/desktop-manager to the DM's service unit file in /lib/systemd/system/newdm.service
[04:29] <illuminated> sorry desktop-manager.service
[04:33] <empoz_> Hi! Recently installed ubuntu server 18.04 and for some reason apt can't simply find stuff that should exists, openbox and i3 are some of the stuff which is weird when I look at https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=openbox&searchon=names and https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&keywords=i3&searchon=names
[04:34] <empoz_> Anyone know why I cant install these anymore? The closest thing is apt saying openbox is referenced by another package and that's it
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> !info i3 | empoz_
[04:35] <empoz_> Oh!
[04:35] <empoz_> Ty mate
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> !info openbox | empoz_
[04:36] <turbo> ello
[04:39] <qwebirc79777> i just got a g7 15 dell laptop and would like to dual boot windows 10, is there a guide i could follow online? i cannot seem to locate one, thank you.
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | qwebirc79777
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | qwebirc79777
[04:42] <cpaelzer> Jordan_U: most likely most of the virt programs are denied by apparmor
[04:42] <empoz_> Another thing, I've added a /etc/netplan/01-netcfg.yaml file configured with a wifi and my home network and run sudo netplan apply, still I get a start job is running waiting for network to be configured for about 2min/no limit before starting up and I'm connected to then network when logging in
[04:42] <cpaelzer> Jordan_U: if you use uncommon paths those will be denied (to prevent breaking out from the guest)
[04:43] <empoz_> However, when doing it manually with wpa_supplicant it gets done directly
[04:43] <cpaelzer> Jordan_U: you likely need to tweak /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/libvirt-qemu and /etc/abstractionsusr...virt-aa-helper
[04:43] <empoz_> Anyone know why it takes 2min on boot and connects directly manually?
[04:43] <cpaelzer> check dmesg - if I'm right you'll see the dnies there and they will tell you what paths are missing
[04:56] <CyberTails> Hi There, I'm trying to Sync my Music to my iPhone SE and it's not being detected on Rhythmbox, What do I do? (My SE is on iOS 11.4 if that helps)
[04:57] <Psi-Jack> CyberTails: Give up.
[04:57] <CyberTails> ???
[04:57] <Psi-Jack> Aka: it's not going to work as you hope.
[04:58] <Psi-Jack> It's the one problem with Apple iDevices, is the lack of Linux support for them, in part because of Apple not supporting Linux at all, leaving the Linux community to try to reverse engineer it.
[04:59] <Psi-Jack> Instead, I use Subsonic streaming server, and have play://Sub download and pre-cache my library there.
[04:59] <Kon-> If Ubuntu universe includes the Nvidia long lived branch 390.xx, why do updated releases of said branch not get shipped? The current version is 390.77 which fixes serious bugs with Vulkan and Kwin, but Ubuntu still has 390.48
[05:00] <Kon-> I shouldn't have to get the Phoronix PPA if all I want are updates to the long-lived branch
[05:01] <Bashing-om> Kon-: See: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa .
[05:01] <Kon-> Read my last line please Bashing-om
[05:02] <Kon-> I understand not shipping 396.xx and later short-term releases. But if it ships with 390.48, why not ship updates to the long-lived branch 390.xx?
[05:02] <Kon-> Same way security updates are shipped for the kernel 4.15
[05:06] <qwebirc95859> bios settings for uefi dual boot dell g7 15?
[05:07] <burzos> Do I need to handle partial writes; with write(2)?
[05:08] <EriC^> qwebirc95859: normal settings shoould work
[05:09] <qwebirc95859> thank you EriC
[05:11] <EriC^> qwebirc95859: after installing ubuntu if you're dual booting you might keep getting windows when you boot the pc cause of uefi
[05:12] <GigabytePro15> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[05:12] <EriC^> qwebirc95859: it can be fixed though
[05:13] <qwebirc95859> EriC^: can you lead me in the right direction:
[05:14] <EriC^> qwebirc95859: sure, firstly you'll want to see if there's a uefi list or boot order list in the bios, and switch ubuntu to the first spot, if there isnt something like that, there might be a "trust" option, if those dont work then join the channel and they'll lead you how to get it fixed other ways
[05:15] <qwebirc95859> EriC^: thank you
[05:15] <EriC^> qwebirc95859: no problem
[05:18] <wiggle> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[05:39] <Pyrat38> Hey
[06:05] <gt8ost4l> EriC^, i got a problen on ubuntu 18.04 with my wireless connection every so and it disconnects
[06:06] <gt8ost4l> so and so
[06:07] <EriC^> gt8ost4l: i dont know much about wireless issues, you might want to address the whole channel
[06:07] <whhtr> Hey, is pango installed by default on 18.04.01?
[06:08] <gt8ost4l> EriC^, aww eric come on your forcingg my hand
[06:08] <EriC^> !info pango
[06:08] <EriC^> whhtr: not apparently
[06:09] <whhtr> does that really mean I can't use it with, awesome wm for example?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> gt8ost4l: to be able to get help, we need more details..wifi chipset, driver version? what goes wrong when?
[06:10] <EriC^> whhtr: i dont know what 'pango' is, but there's no package called pango in 18.04
[06:11] <whhtr> I'm talking about Pango Markup. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pango
[06:12] <whhtr> I mean, Pango but I need to use the text attribute markup
[06:12] <amosbird> hi, how can I get rid of the menu bar and the boarder of gnome-terminal?  https://la.wentropy.com/DAqx.png
[06:24] <gt8ost4l> lotuspsychje, okay illl break it down i have a AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter
[06:24] <gt8ost4l>  i read that the driver has defects the driver i have is r8169 driver every so and so it disconnects
[06:32] <whhtr> just a headsup, yes the libpango is already by default and it is working in awesomewm.
[06:32] <whhtr> installed*
[06:32] <EriC^> whhtr: cool
[06:36] <rangemonger> is there any way to disable a pci device in grub?
[06:44] <adrian_1908> test :)
[07:01] <ducasse> adrian_1908: please don't do that here
[07:03] <adrian_1908> alrighty
[07:03] <Flannel> ducasse: It's alright.  He was actually doing it at our request.
[07:04] <kraiskil> My udev rules don't fire on boot in a fresh Ubuntu 18.04. They do work - physically replugging the USB device after boot does trigger the udev rules. Is this "as specified" (this is not how it worked in 16.04?), is it a bug in 18.04, or what might I have goofed?
[07:04] <ducasse> Flannel: okidoke :)
[07:05] <rangemonger> is there any simple way to disable a pci device?
[07:11] <taha> hello
[07:11] <taha> im a developer and im want to down load ubunto
[07:12] <taha> can you help me to chose version?
[07:12] <EriC^^> taha: ubuntu 16.04 seems like a good choice right now
[07:12] <taha> tank you very match
[07:13] <taha> are ubuntu 18.04.1 good?
[07:13] <accesspoint> Hi Eric^^. Are there any serious issues with 18.04, please?
[07:14] <EriC^^> accesspoint: i'm not aware of any, just that it took longer for 18.04.1 to come out
[07:15] <accesspoint> ok. thanks a lot.
[07:16] <taha> are ubuntu 18.04.1 good?
[07:21] <taha> join EriC^^
[07:22] <EriC^^> taha: from what i heard it has some problems, like maybe lagging sometimes, or slow boots, etc
[07:23] <EriC^^> taha: install 16.04 if you want, it's more solid and stuff by now too, and install 18.04 in a vm and see if you like gnome and 18.04
[07:23] <taha> where can i download ubuntu 16.04?
[07:23] <EriC^^> !download
[07:25] <msichal> hi, I'm using 16.04.2 and a 4.15.0-24-generic kernel, is there any way to install linux-image-extras for this kernel or any newer kernel? I can't see packages like this in apt, and I need some extra kernel modules
[07:26] <Fridtjof> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[07:26] <Fridtjof> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[07:26] <Fridtjof> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[07:27] <msichal> maybe those packages are somehow obsolete? I can't see any possible explanation to create them for some kernel releases, but not all of them
[07:28] <brainwash> shouldn't you have 4.15.0-30-generic?
[07:28] <slr> yo
[07:29] <EriC^^> msichal: i think the name changed for them let me see
[07:30] <brainwash> linux-modules-extra maybe?
[07:30] <EriC^^> msichal: yes ^ linux-modules-4.15.0-24-generic and linux-modules-extra-4.15.0-24-generic exist
[07:31] <msichal> seems like that's it, I didn't think before to search for the exact kernel version without any text
[07:31] <msichal> yeah, usbmon is now modprobe'able, thanks guys - I don't like those changes in package names doing the same thing
[07:45] <veeru> Hi All
[07:46] <veeru> while upgrading Ubuntu from 14.04 to 16.04 webmin software is getting uninstalled
[07:46] <veeru> any help to prevent uninstalling any software during upgrade
[07:48] <ElectroXexual> whats ANM,HIA and NOA in proxies?
[07:49] <hateball> !webmin | veeru
[07:57] <Guest43971> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[08:02] <Miron14> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[08:11] <aviram11> Hello, I have a problem with screenshot on Mate. I have installed cinnamon and it seems that it runs gnome-screenshot instead of mate-screenshot and so the screenshot key doesn't work
[08:13] <adrian_1908> aviram11: you might be able to remap the key in the settings/control-center
[08:39] <johan`> OK so my gnome-shell in the F2 "userspace" crashed or something
[08:39] <johan`> Im in F3, how can I restart my gnome-shell from here?
[08:40] <johan`> (Im on 18.04)
[08:41] <eNbass14> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[08:42] <hepo> plzaqz someone register me k need to join ## channels
[08:43] <johan`> Alright killall -3 gnome-shell from the same user worked!
[08:50] <ElectroXexual> "Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?" why is everyone posting this on every channel? Is this some kind of propaganda or what?
[08:52] <quxgyver> Hi. Wifi on Lubuntu is excruciatingly slow for me.
[08:52] <quxgyver> I have no idea why or what to do.
[08:52] <quxgyver> Can someone help
[08:55] <Gekko> Is it possible to use some kind of "match-all" adapter name in the netplan (https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html.en) files? I'm worried my USB ethernet card will change its name on cloned devices, and the netplan rule I wrote for the USB device won't load if the adapter name changes
[08:56] <Gekko> Or, if I use a USB device with different firmware, maybe it will appear is a differently named adapter
[08:56] <Gekko> Right now the adapter name is enp0s20u2, but can I be sure all the similar USB network adapters will have this name?
[08:58] <nyuszika7h19> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[08:58] <m2_teknix> I have a fresh installation of ubuntu 18.04 but firefox is not playing mp3 & m4a off the websites
[09:00] <m2_teknix> anything that I need to install to support make mp3 play in firefox
[09:05] <qwebirc11829> What is the function of second button from left at bottom in the image at https://i.stack.imgur.com/Scp0v.png
[09:08] <brainwash> m2_teknix: it should only require the "ffmpeg" package for media playback
[09:08] <brainwash> qwebirc11829: probably relog/logout
[09:18] <SimonNL> qwebirc11829: reboot ?
[09:26] <veeru> ubottu :  Do you have any article about this ?
[09:27] <veeru> hateball
[09:29] <qwebirc11829> SimonNL No... It just shows a lock sign when clicked https://i.stack.imgur.com/fB0lc.png
[09:29] <hateball> veeru: it is no longer supported, just like the factoid says
[09:30] <qwebirc11829> SimonNL: No... It just shows a lock sign when clicked https://i.stack.imgur.com/fB0lc.png
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc11829: you have airplane mode on?
[09:32] <willcooke> qwebirc11829, it's rotate lock.
[09:33] <willcooke> It will only show on machines with a rotation sensor
[09:35] <IntPtr23> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[09:35] <qwebirc11829> lotuspsychje: Yes... Connected to network with USB tethering
[09:36] <qwebirc11829> willcooke: Maybe.... I am using a laptop.... I don't think it has a rotation sensor
[09:39] <sa_> Hi All, I'm having Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS. I'm trying to mount a folder, i'm getting "mount: can't find /home/sav/ in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab", what could be the issue?
[09:43] <veeru> hateball can you please share if any document saying webmin is not supported in latest Ubuntu versions
[09:52] <ppf> !webmin | veeru
[09:54] <guiverc> veeru, the fact that webmin isn't in any repo I would have thought was a clue too (https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=webmin)
[09:55] <veeru> guiverc  what is that you are trying share? Please provide more details
[09:55] <veeru> webmin is separate software not given by Ubuntu
[09:57] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:00] <whhtr> howdy
[10:13] <guiverc> veeru, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebMin
[10:18] <Guest31592> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[10:20] <ppf> guiverc: though that mostly says webmin was removed because the maintainer dropped support
[10:22] <BluesKaj> webmin was already broken when it lost support afaik
[10:23] <amdmatt2> webmin is still supported by the author
[10:25] <BluesKaj> good luck with it then since it's not supported in ubuntu
[10:25] <guiverc> it contained the ~same message (in lp bug on its removal) that the bot read out.  i used it awhile, thought it was great at first, then deciding not to use it again... (but was long long ago; it's costs too high just for convience - but this is opinion only)
[10:30] <Guest56313> boring
[10:30] <madhu> hai
[10:30] <Guest56313> hey
[10:30] <madhu> who is this?
[10:30] <Guest56313> me?
[10:31] <madhu> yea
[10:31] <Guest56313> just like you
[10:31] <madhu> ahah okey
[10:33] <whhtr> the fuck?
[10:34] <BluesKaj> whhtr, watch your language please
[10:34] <whhtr> yes
[10:36] <Guest56313> @BluesKaj why?
[10:36] <BluesKaj> !language
[10:37] <BluesKaj> Guest56313, this isn't a chit chat room where anything goes
[10:38] <Guest56313> is there any?
[10:39] <JimBuntu> Guest56313, /msg alis list <insert phrase you want to search rooms for>
[10:39] <BluesKaj> probly not on freenode
[10:40] <bugzbunny20> Guest56313: As long you are not troll, I will help you out?
[10:41] <Guest56313> please help
[10:41] <bugzbunny20> What you need help with?
[10:42] <Guest56313> how to find a chat is fits for me?
[10:43] <Guest56313> first time irc user
[10:43] <bugzbunny20> #freenode
[10:43] <bugzbunny20> /join #freenode
[10:44] <Guest56313> tnx!
[10:44] <Guest56313> how do i find thematic chats?
[10:45] <ppf> not here
[10:45] <bugzbunny20> Sweet, I know what you doing right now
[10:46] <bugzbunny20> I am here to help people who is in need
[10:47] <Guest56313> good for you!
[10:47] <JimBuntu> Guest56313, This is how to find channels -> /msg alis list SEARCHTERM
[10:48] <bugzbunny20> Guest56313: Yeah, they are Anal, they tell people who run the room, how to run the room
[10:51] <m5w> Hello.  I started upgrading my Kubuntu 16.04 to 18.04, locked my computer, and got breakfast.  I came back, and I can't unlock thw computer.  I can log in to a TTY just fine, but it seems that my desktop manager is frozen or something, which is a problem, since the upgrade is running in a terminal open on my desktop.
[10:52] <illuminated> what happens when you try to login on the DM?
[10:53] <m5w> I did, and that's when it froze.
[10:53] <m5w> The time is stuck at 0644
[10:53] <m5w> mouse still moves though
[10:54] <m5w> if there were some way I could take over the terminal on a TTY...
[10:54] <m5w> but I wasn't running screen or anything, so I doubt that's possible
[10:54] <illuminated> maybe restart the DM from the tty?
[10:55] <illuminated> prob bad idea
[10:55] <BluesKaj> m5w, recommend you let the upgrade to 18.04 finish before trying anything else
[10:55] <ppf> m5w: doesn't the upgrade start a screen session?
[10:55] <ppf> or some kind of muxer
[10:55] <m5w> illuminated, that would kill the terminal session though
[10:55] <m5w> ppf, hm, I'll look
[10:55] <bugzbunny20> Why restart DM?
[10:55] <ppf> try screen -ls
[10:55] <bugzbunny20> WHY!
[10:56] <bugzbunny20> What is locking the screen?
[10:56] <m5w> ppf, YES!!!
[10:56] <bugzbunny20> That Program!
[10:56] <ppf> :)
[10:56] <m5w> sweet
[10:57] <m5w> bugzbunny20, idk, probably something it was using getting upgraded caused it to hang?
[10:58] <bugzbunny20> Sooo you locked the screen
[10:58] <bugzbunny20> You didn't put it to sleep
[10:59] <bugzbunny20> Finish I started upgrading my Kubuntu 16.04 to 18.04
[10:59] <bugzbunny20> ewboor
[10:59] <bugzbunny20> reboot!
[10:59] <BluesKaj> bugzbunny20, stop that
[11:01] <bugzbunny20> BluesKaj: ban me
[11:01] <m5w> anyway, I'm now attached on the TTY.  Thanks all!
[11:03] <bugzbunny20> n5w: You ran an unattended update!
[11:04] <bugzbunny20> BluesKaj: ban people so I stop speaking
[11:04] <ppf> we need more ops during european daylight with enough free time on their hand...
[11:05] <bugzbunny20> ppf: You mean Ubuntu is not the owner of this room ppf ?
[11:06] <nicechp> hello, what would be the easiest way to create an identical copy of my laptop's harddisk which I think is SSD (so that if one day my computer dies, I can rebuild it)
[11:06] <ppf> nicechp: with dd you can create bit-copies
[11:07] <edmoore> or rsync with appropriate flags might do it nicely
[11:07] <edmoore> i think this was often offered as a good thing a few years ago nicechp: https://www.jwz.org/doc/backups.html
[11:08] <nicechp> ppf: I've found that via google as well, but I am not clear how to attach the back up disk to the laptop. Would I need to use a portable disk to copy onto that and then buy another SSD and insert the new SSD into the laptop and then copy from the portable back up disk??
[11:08] <ppf> nicechp: you can also dd into a .img file or something if you have a place where you want to put it
[11:09] <ppf> it's just a bit copy, so just a huge chunk of data
[11:09] <nicechp> ppf: can I run the dd to create said .img while running the laptop via some kind of LIVE-USB OS?
[11:09] <bugzbunny20> nicechp: NO
[11:09] <ppf> nicechp: yes
[11:10] <bugzbunny20> nicechp: That's not a backup solution
[11:10] <ppf> you might prefer something more highlevel though
[11:10] <ppf> like rsync as edmoore said
[11:10] <ppf> and only back up your users data, not the whole system
[11:10] <bugzbunny20> nicechp: You want to make periods backups?
[11:10] <nicechp> the thing is, I don't just want to backup my home dir, also everything else that I installed as root etc, all the applications in non user dirs
[11:11] <bugzbunny20> nicechp: That's not the backup solution
[11:11] <bugzbunny20> nicechp: Where you going to back it up to?
[11:11] <ppf> okay
[11:11] <nicechp> I think ppf 's solution would be fine, why do you think it is now a solution bugzbunny20
[11:11] <nicechp> -now -> not
[11:11] <bugzbunny20> Let it fail
[11:12] <Tin_man> nicechp, might look here >> https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/2-methods-to-clone-your-linux-hard-drive/
[11:12] <bugzbunny20> No problem for me
[11:12] <ppf> nicechp: i propose /ignoreing that guiy
[11:12] <ppf> now. the _cool_ solution is to use a more modern filesystem
[11:12] <bugzbunny20> When you lose your data
[11:12] <ppf> btrfs for instance
[11:12] <nicechp> ppf: okay
[11:12] <ppf> with that you can upload full snapshots of your fs to anywhere you like, while the machine is running
[11:12] <deem> Why not use the integrated backup solution for ubuntu? Deja-dup
[11:13] <bugzbunny20> clone harddrive is not a realiable to backup data
[11:13] <nicechp> I would need to figure out how to move the current one to btrfs
[11:13] <bugzbunny20> Especicially you clone it to a Hard Disk!
[11:13] <ppf> deem: that also only backs up data
[11:13] <deem> ppf: Isn't that what he wants to do?
[11:13] <ppf> hm yeah if it's a running system already that's not a real option
[11:13] <ppf> deem: full system backup
[11:14] <ppf> because reasons :)
[11:14] <deem> So a dd'ed one?
[11:14] <deem> Block-based backup
[11:14] <nicechp> ppf: if it is really much better, I could do some extra work for btrfs
[11:14] <nicechp> i.e. migrate home dir and then re-install all stuff
[11:14] <ppf> it is an a bit more involved process
[11:15] <Gekko> Well I got my USB ethernet stick working with this config https://plantmonster.net/linux/ubuntu/netplan2.txt, but I'm still worried about the adapter name being different if I plug in a new USB stick that has different firmware
[11:15] <bugzbunny20> Hard Disks is not Portable
[11:15] <ppf> and also not cheap on resources, to be honest
[11:15] <Gekko> I'd prefer if there was something like matching all adapters to DHCP4
[11:15] <bugzbunny20> It's a risk of Failure!
[11:16] <beefjoe> I keep getting `failed to download extra files` for the package ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[11:16] <nicechp> thanks for all the ideas
[11:16] <JimBuntu> nicechp, One way... ddrescue with lzip, 2+ copies on different media
[11:18] <bugzbunny20> lzip won't get as much space if it's not already compressed
[11:18] <bugzbunny20> But different media will help
[11:18] <JimBuntu> who cares about the space savings, it has excellent recovery capabilities
[11:19] <bugzbunny20> You got A peta backup storage JimBuntu
[11:19] <leftyfb> also his statement if false
[11:19] <leftyfb> if/is
[11:20] <beefjoe> any ideas ?
[11:20] <leftyfb> beefjoe: can you pastebin the command you're using and it's full output?
[11:20] <beefjoe> no command
[11:20] <beefjoe> I just get the update-notifier
[11:20] <beefjoe> with an error
[11:20] <beefjoe> `Failure to download extra data files`
[11:21] <ppf> beefjoe: run sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade and paste the output then, please
[11:21] <beefjoe> that command works fine
[11:21] <ppf> full-upgrade?
[11:21] <beefjoe> all packages get updated and no new update
[11:21] <leftyfb> beefjoe: please pastebin the output of: sudo apt update && sudo apt install --reinstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[11:21] <beefjoe> E: Download Failed
[11:21] <leftyfb> no
[11:22] <leftyfb> beefjoe: please pastebin the command AND entire output of: sudo apt update && sudo apt install --reinstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[11:23] <beefjoe> https://pastebin.com/aKBF9uif
[11:23] <leftyfb> beefjoe: that's a problem at sourceforge or maybe your provider is redirecting traffic to sourceforge
[11:24] <beefjoe> I download from Main Server
[11:24] <leftyfb> beefjoe: I can download http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/andale32.exe just fine. The problem is on your end.
[11:24] <beefjoe> What do you think would be the issue ?
[11:25] <bugzbunny20> beefjoe: Your DNS and Rout is okay
[11:25] <ppf> failedmirror=netix.dl.sourceforge.net
[11:25] <ppf> plus a bug at sourceforge attempting to redirect to a http error message ...
[11:25] <bugzbunny20> beefjoe: paste ip addr
[11:25] <nicechp> ppf: "Btrfs: Btrfs is modern, feature-rich copy-on-write filesystem. This architecture allows for some volume management functionality to be integrated within the filesystem layer, including snapshots, cloning, volumes, etc. Btrfs still runs into some problems when dealing with full disks. There is some debate over its readiness for production workloads and many system administrators are waiting for the filesystem to reach greater ma
[11:25] <bugzbunny20> beefjoe: and paste ip route
[11:25] <nicechp> overly critical?
[11:26] <bugzbunny20> beefjoe: than /etc/resolv.conf
[11:26] <ppf> no, the full disk issues are real
[11:27] <illuminated> if I do an echo "Hello" > /dev/console will "Hello" appear on the console?
[11:27] <ppf> illuminated: just try?
[11:27] <leftyfb> illuminated: did you try it?
[11:27] <bugzbunny20> ppf: keep giving bad information
[11:27] <beefjoe> https://pastebin.com/BaYWD7Fm bugzbunny20
[11:27] <illuminated> no haven't tried it
[11:28] <hateball> illuminated: if you want to send a message to all users/ttys, use the 'wall' command
[11:28] <illuminated> ok.. thanks
[11:29] <cfhowlett> wall
[11:29] <Sousapro26> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[11:29] <Sousapro26> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[11:29] <Sousapro26> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[11:29] <JimBuntu> Way to go on helping to raise 10.2MM$USD! Keep it up.
[11:29] <ppf> JimBuntu: is that mega-million?
[11:29] <qwebirc91290> anyone here who has a Ubuntu VPS on DigitalOcean or any VPS provider with TTY console access?
[11:30] <ppf> qwebirc91290: i do
[11:30] <qwebirc91290> ppf: have you upgraded distros on your VPS before? so for example from artful to bionic
[11:30] <JimBuntu> beefjoe, I think the issue is the redirect from HTTPS to HTTP. There have been various bugs for various packages reported in the past. Common workaround is to edit your .list file in question, to start off by using HTTP.
[11:30] <bugzbunny20> me and my mate is off
[11:30] <bugzbunny20> To play video games but I see the culture
[11:31] <ppf> qwebirc91290: nope
[11:31] <leftyfb> beefjoe: please ignore our resident troll bugzbunny20, they are not here to help you but only to troll and cause problems.
[11:31] <ppf> JimBuntu: nope
[11:31] <bugzbunny20> yes I am the bad guy
[11:31] <beefjoe> hmm thanks for the heads up ppf
[11:31] <leftyfb> beefjoe: It's a known bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bug/1713615
[11:31] <bugzbunny20> Avoid what I say
[11:32] <qwebirc91290> ppf: ah okay, had a bit of a weird issue with tmux screwing up after an artful --> bionic upgrade done through the digitalocean TTY console access
[11:32] <JimBuntu> ppf, "Nope" what?
[11:32] <leftyfb> beefjoe: wget http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/m/msttcorefonts/ttf-mscorefonts-installer_3.6_all.deb
[11:32] <leftyfb> beefjoe: I don't normally suggest such things, but that is the same package that's trying to get installed and according to the bug, this one works
[11:33] <beefjoe> yea it does
[11:33] <beefjoe> Thanks a lot!
[11:38] <mt5> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[11:42] <JBzh> Good afternoon. I can't find why I get "couldn't connect to system bus" in a late_command preseed installation when I do "realm join --user=joinad mydomainname". I guess it's related to some services not started at this stage, but I'd like to make it work. Any hint about this ?
[11:43] <JBzh> (the exact same command works after the installation is finished if I type it in a terminal after I login on the installed desktop)
[11:44] <ppf> JBzh: the user has no session, so dbus is not available
[11:45] <ppf> JBzh: can you try this: export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR="/run/user/$UID" DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS="unix:path=${XDG_RUNTIME_DIR}/bus"
[11:46] <JBzh> ppf: I'll try it
[11:51] <whhtr> .exit
[11:53] <sttone> hi
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> sttone: welcome, how can we help you?
[11:56] <sttone> lotuspsychje, oh actually i am good ,just be myself,thanks :)
[11:57] <genkgo1> I am having trouble understanding userns-remap. When I set it to default, I cannot mount some volume anymore. I am on a development machine. So for instance I try to mount /home/me/.folder/folder/file to a container, which gives a "Cannot start service nginx: OCI runtime create failed" ... to rootfs at ... caused "stat /home/me/.folder/folder/file: permission denied". I fI remove userns-remap from my daemon.json I have no problem with mounting. I guess I
[11:58] <genkgo1> Why would mounting some folders become a problem with userns-remap?
[12:08] <pizzaburger> Hello! I'm having trouble with my printer/scanner. The printer is identified and displayed as ready, although it doesnt print anything when prompted the Test Page print. Simple-Scan displays "no scanners available. Please connect a scanner". Running Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS, Lubuntu. Thanks!
[12:09] <JBzh> ppf: well, same issue. realm: Couldn't connect to system bus: Could no connect: No such file or directory". Sadly it does not say which file
[12:09] <YADW> Driver incompatibility?
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> pizzaburger: did you try adding scanner driver button?
[12:10] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: which printer '/ scanner are you inquiring about?
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> i had the same issue on my hp printer/scanner
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> pizzaburger: closing sane and research driver from sane did the trick
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> pizzaburger: simple-scan sorry
[12:12] <pizzaburger> lotuspsychje: no I did not. Any resources to point me to the right direction?
[12:12] <deepin_> Due to the persistent ongoing spam, all new connections are being set +R (block messages from unidentified users) and will be scanned for vulnerabilities. This will not harm your computer, and vulnerable hosts will be notified.
[12:12] <deepin_> Due to the persistent ongoing spam, all new connections are being set +R (block messages from unidentified users) and will be scanned for vulnerabilities. This will not harm your computer, and vulnerable hosts will be notified.
[12:12] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: HP laserjet M1132 MFP
[12:12] <gustav_> 17.1 u. 18.4 Ornerfenster li. Seite schwart und dto. linke Seite weiß -es sind jeweils andere Anzeigemöglichkeiten. Wie kann man das Umschaltern?
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> !de | gustav_
[12:14] <gustav_> Danke ubottu
[12:15] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: recommended printer driver is foo2xqx. is this the driver which is listed as being in use when you click on the printer at http://localhost:631/printers/ ?
[12:16] <egos4> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[12:18] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: doesn't show me drivers, only queue, description, location make&model, status
[12:19] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: driver: HP LaserJet Professional m1132 MFP, hpcups 3.17.10, requires proprietary plugin (color)
[12:19] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: how did you install the drivers?
[12:20] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: I did not, or at least don't remember doing so
[12:21] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: is the hplip package installed?
[12:22] <khanm78> hello all
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> khanm78: welcome, what can we do for you?
[12:22] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: dpkg -l hplip
[12:22] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: please also tell the version, if so
[12:22] <khanm78> nothing major, i want a moan and a solve if possible lol
[12:23] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/f8VGDPDpVd/
[12:23] <khanm78> lets start with the solve, i have set background on 18.4 to a solid colour (black) but it looks mottled / speckled
[12:24] <khanm78> dont know if its ment to be that way or im rendering poorly
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> khanm78: screenshot?
[12:25] <khanm78> it looks like its black with old crt static in image.
[12:25] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: okay, this looks like the package which comes with ubuntu 18.04. https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/hplip
[12:26] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: you could run hp-setup to set it up
[12:26] <khanm78> is it gimp thats used to save a screenshot
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> khanm78: F11 printscreen
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> khanm78: or the kodak icon, for screenshot
[12:27] <crised> Want to run Windows virtually from Ubuntu, Should I get Vmware or VirtualBox or other?
[12:27] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: in case the printer is connected via USB directly to your computer, not to your network / LAN / Wireless, you could also run hp-config_usb_printer
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> crised: virtualbox is on the ubuntu repos
[12:28] <crised> lotuspsychje: +1
[12:28] <khanm78> hm, sorry lil guidence needed, windows we take screenshot and paste to paint then save that file and send, not sure how on ubunntu yet.
[12:29] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: i don't have much experience with HP printers, so i'm afraid this is probably all the help i can provide
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> khanm78: after you took the screenshot, upload to imgur.com and share link here
[12:29] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NZYRV4zQbd/
[12:29] <khanm78> kk 2 min
[12:30] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: Alright, thanks a lot!
[12:31] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: install python-qt4 to (hopefully) make hpsetup work
[12:34] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: if you dont know whether you have connected your printer directly to your computer or whether you connected it to oyour network / router / wireless instead, visit http://localhost:631/printers/ again and see what 'Connection' says for your printer
[12:34] <JimBuntu> !paste | khanm78
[12:36] <khanm78> sorry, im not delaying my network is intermitintly dropping
[12:36] <qwebirc50997> Can anyone recommend an up-to-date tutorial for running Ubuntu 18.04 in a "kiosk" mode with the Chromium browser?
[12:36] <khanm78> https://imgur.com/a/Qh1NjVG
[12:37] <khanm78> It was like this it was ment to b black but loocked spotty, i have just made a new black image for the background and it looks better
[12:37] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SxQmNg2Sh2/ , connection through USB
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> khanm78: i dont see nothing unusual?
[12:38] <khanm78> wonder if its cause im using a large tv as a monitor
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> khanm78: you have a 2nd monitor to test?
[12:39] <khanm78> mybe its cause im getting old lol, seeing whats not there, but changing the image has cleared it up for now.
[12:39] <khanm78> no :(
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> khanm78: laptop?
[12:40] <khanm78> no other issues with colours in images, it was just that one, other images show as normal and other blacks show ok.
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> khanm78: ok
[12:41] <khanm78> laptop wont take the hdmi in, its designed for projector out.
[12:41] <khanm78> now my big crux, why does my ethernet port keep turning off and on randomly,
[12:42] <khanm78> ohh and this is not a linux thing it happened on windows first. lol
[12:42] <khanm78> thats the moan, :)
[12:43] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: i see. apparently this is an usb only (no network port) printer.
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> khanm78: try ##hardware
[12:43] <khanm78> i will ty :)
[12:44] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: you may need to run this utility with sudo or add your user to the plugdev group and logout and lotin
[12:44] <tomreyn> *login
[12:46] <khanm78> is ##hardware empty or am i joining wrong lace?
[12:47] <tomreyn> khanm78: 580 users in there
[12:47] <khanm78> ty so it me then
[12:48] <Mead> wrong lace,  ##hardware is more of a Chantilly Lace
[12:48] <khanm78> i meant place, place damn it :D
[12:48] <tomreyn> !register | khanm78 you will need to do this to join it
[12:48] <khanm78> reg nick
[12:49] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: added user to the plugdev group. I get this "warning: GUI Modules PyQt4 and PyQt5 are not installed", I installed python-qt4, but cant find python-qt5
[12:50] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: hmm installing python-qt4 should have sufficed, what is the output now?
[12:50] <tomreyn> ... of "hp-setup", without extra options
[12:51] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Zxv7Yfr264/
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc50997: is this what you search for? https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-run-x-applications-without-a-desktop-or-a-wm
[12:52] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: hmm, an "dpkg -l python-qt4" says?
[12:53] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: you can just post the lastline here directly
[12:53] <pizzaburger> ii  python-qt4                        4.12.1+dfsg-2         amd64                 Python bindings for Qt4
[12:54] <tomreyn> i guess hp-setup is lying
[12:55] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: maybe try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure hplip"
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> !info hplip-data bionic
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> pizzaburger: got this aswell ^ ?
[12:56] <tomreyn> hplip depends on hplip-data, so i'd say yes
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> yeah normally it should
[12:56] <karalaine> there is also  hplip-gui
[12:57] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: Creating/updating hplip user account...
[12:58] <pizzaburger> lotuspsychje: where am I supposed to look for that?
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> pizzaburger: apt-cache policy hplip-data
[12:59] <tomreyn> "dpkg -l hplip-data", last line should start with 'ii' if installed
[12:59] <tomreyn> karalaine has a good point there
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> gui is usefull when wanting the tools
[13:00] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: dpkg -l hplip-gui
[13:00] <pizzaburger> lotuspsychje: tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SDRSNXqMRt/
[13:00] <tomreyn> good, as expected, now what about the gui
[13:01] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: un  hplip-gui                         <none>                <none>                (no description available)
[13:01] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: well, install it
[13:01] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: apt install hplib-gui
[13:01] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: apt install hplip-gui
[13:01] <tomreyn> the latter ;)
[13:04] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: oh, also you can try running: hp-setup --qt3
[13:10] <kdeuser^> Hello
[13:11] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: lotuspsychje: everything is working fine now. Thank You for the awesome help once more!
[13:11] <kdeuser^> my installation of 18.04 boots up very slow. I need help to check how to speed it up.
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> kdeuser^: ubuntu-desktop or another flavor?
[13:12] <kdeuser^> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/vg3Ge11J. ubuntu-desktop
[13:13] <kdeuser^> lotuspsychje: you can check the output of systemd-analyze blame in pastebin
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> kdeuser^: there are few things you can tweak already: install preload, disabled unwanted services at boot,clean your system with bleachbit
[13:13] <brainwash> kdeuser^: systemd-analyze critical-chain  may be more helpful
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> kdeuser^: and system-analyze too
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> kdeuser^: systemd-analyze
[13:15] <soud> Hi, I'm facing a really annoying problem running Ubuntu 16.04 on a 2015 Macbook Pro. Every time I reboot or poweroff, my keyboard doesn't function at grub or anywhere and it won't boot. I have to reset my NVRAM every time, which also resets EFI boot order, so I have to boot a live USB every time I reboot/poweroff. Anyone any clue what's causing this?
[13:15] <kdeuser^> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/96xjTybn
[13:15] <kdeuser^> lotuspsychje: Startup finished in 24.243s (kernel) + 1min 14.806s (userspace) = 1min 39.050s
[13:15] <kdeuser^> graphical.target reached after 1min 789ms in userspace
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> kdeuser^: did you do anything unusual like scripts or crons at boot?
[13:16] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: how did you mak it work then?
[13:16] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: dont keep us dumb. ;-)
[13:17] <kdeuser^> lotuspsychje: no. I just found another post on askubuntu regarding UUID not matchiing in fstab after upgrade. I will try that now
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> kdeuser^: i created also a bug on systemd's slow boot: affect if you think its relevant: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1742063
[13:18] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: installed hplib-gui like you said, then ran hp-setup. A GUI popped up, and was pretty straight-forward after that
[13:18] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: great, that's good to know
[13:19] <BluesKaj> HP printers are quite linux friendly
[13:19] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: I've also changed the USB cable (printer-PC) in case it was part of the problem
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> kdeuser^: you upgraded from 16.04? did you get the upgrade window?
[13:19] <kdeuser^> lotuspsychje: yes from 17.04
[13:19] <kdeuser^> lotuspsychje:  I got the upgrade window
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> kdeuser^: 17.10 you mean?
[13:20] <kdeuser^> lotuspsychje: Yes. Sorry.
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> kdeuser^: 17.10 is end of life, when did you get this window?
[13:20] <kdeuser^> lotuspsychje: Its been coming up for a while and I upgrade last weekend
[13:21] <kdeuser^> lotuspsychje: I just updated my fstab. Let me check if that helps and be back in a few mins. OK? I will let you know if that works
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> kdeuser^: allright
[13:23]  * tomreyn would like to learn details about this "UUID not matchiing in fstab after upgrade" issue
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> oO
[13:24] <kdeuser^> lotuspsychje: Hi. It sees to be the same after the fstab change. The UUID was indeed different and now corrected.
[13:25] <kdeuser^> lotuspsychje: Startup finished in 5.776s (kernel) + 1min 2.557s (userspace) = 1min 8.334s
[13:25] <kdeuser^> lotuspsychje: graphical.target reached after 1min 2.256s in userspace
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> kdeuser^: try to tweak with what i told you earlier, or affect to my bug
[13:26] <kdeuser^> lotuspsychje: Can you resend what you sent me? Thanks.
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> kdeuser^: does your client have logs?
[13:27] <kdeuser^> lotuspsychje: I am on irssi
[13:27] <ppf> irssi has logs
[13:27] <kdeuser^> ppf: how do i check?
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> kdeuser^: bug #1742063
[13:27] <ppf> ~/.irssi/irclogs
[13:28] <kdeuser^> lotuspsychje: thanks.
[13:28] <kdeuser^> ppf:  no such dir exists
[13:28] <tomreyn> kdeuser^: can you post the askubuntu page about the fstab change? i'd like to know more about it.
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> kdeuser^: also install preload, disable unwanted services,clean system with bleachbit
[13:29] <kdeuser^> tomreyn: https://askubuntu.com/questions/760694/how-to-speed-up-really-slow-boot-on-ubuntu-16-04
[13:29] <tomreyn> okay, but you're on 18.04 now, right?
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> kdeuser^: you cant compare 18.04 with 16.04 speed anymore
[13:30] <kdeuser^> lotuspsychje: No.. I am not comparing. The solution was worth a shot considering my fstab had wrong UUID for /
[13:31] <tomreyn> whether 16.04 or 18.04, it could still be relevant. if the uuid for a swap parition was wrong it would cause a slower boot and the swap partitioon not to get used.
[13:31] <BluesKaj> kdeuser^, also if you have an outboard drive, it's uuid may not be listed in the new fstab either
[13:32] <kdeuser^> BluesKaj: ok. Its an internal HDD
[13:33] <BluesKaj> kdeuser^, yes of course , but some users have an extra outboard usb/sata drive for backup or media data etc
[13:33] <kdeuser^> understood.
[13:34] <tomreyn> kdeuser^: you changed the UUID for the swap partition or for / ? if th eone for / was wrong, then you should have been dropped to initramfs shell during boot. is this what happened?
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> kdeuser^: can you also say wich part is slow: from boot==>login or from login==>desktop ?
[13:35] <tomreyn> otherwise i'd like to suggest we double check that / now has the correct uuid in fstab, or you might not be able to boot after next kernel / initramfs update
[13:35] <kdeuser^> tomreyn: I changed the ID for /
[13:36] <kdeuser^> lotuspsychje: It takes time from purple screen to purple screen with ubuntu logo booting up
[13:37] <kdeuser^> lotuspsychje: I get a plain purple sreen for quite long time before I get the ubuntu logo with dots. Then its fairly quick to get to the desktop.
[13:37] <tomreyn> kdeuser^: okay, in case you'd like to have it double checked, let me know (no need if you're convinced you're experienced enough to not make mistakes there)
[13:38] <kdeuser^> tomreyn: /dev/sda1: UUID="248dcdce-2858-4e4b-8563-40057074ce60" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="c1c98047-01"
[13:38] <kdeuser^> tomreyn: UUID=248dcdce-2858-4e4b-8563-40057074ce60 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[13:38] <kdeuser^> tomreyn: /swapfile                                 none            swap    sw              0       0
[13:39] <kdeuser^> kdeuser^: I am more used to using /dev/... in /etc/fstab than using the UUID
[13:39] <EriC^^> kdeuser^: anything in /var/log/boot.log ?
[13:39] <kdeuser^> EriC^^: I just started running bleachbit...probably thats cleared out now.
[13:40] <EriC^^> kdeuser^: it's pretty easy to check
[13:40] <kdeuser^> EriC^^: I have the log. Anythig I should look for?
[13:40] <EriC^^> kdeuser^: anything that looks like an error or warning etc
[13:41] <antonio_> hello
[13:41] <kdeuser^> EriC^^: Everyhing seems ok
[13:41] <EriC^^> kdeuser^: also look at /var/log/syslog
[13:41] <EriC^^> kdeuser^: it's timestamped so look for long waits etc
[13:41] <antonio_> how i configure vnc server resolution
[13:41] <antonio_> ????
[13:41] <antonio_> how i configure vnc server resolution???
[13:42] <kdeuser^> EriC^^: could this be something? [*     ] (1 of 2) A start job is running for Tell Plymouth To Write Out Runtime Data (5s / no limit[  OK  ] Started Flush Journal to Persistent Storage.
[13:43] <EriC^^> seems ok kdeuser^
[13:43] <EriC^^> kdeuser^: what about the time stamp?
[13:43] <EriC^^> kdeuser^: can you upload dmesg -T  ?
[13:45] <kdeuser^> EriC^^: https://pastebin.com/hZWTyM8k - Dmesg
[13:51] <EriC^^> kdeuser^: can you run "systemd-analyze plot | nc termbin.com 9999" and share the link?
[13:53] <kdeuser^> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/k1ea
[13:55] <kashike12> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[13:57] <CrtxReavr> Could I get some help with its 'apt-get upgrade' issue?: https://bpaste.net/show/530f0561be3a
[13:58] <kdeuser^> EriC^^: Does it help if I change these two params to 10s in systemd/system.conf? - DefaultTimeoutStartSec=10s
[13:58] <kdeuser^> DefaultTimeoutStopSec=10s
[13:58] <kdeuser^> EriC^^: default is 90s
[13:58] <yeats> CrtxReavr: you can 'sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock' then try again
[14:00] <yeats> CrtxReavr: you might also run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure unattended-upgrades' and answer 'no' so it doesn't try to autoupgrade stuff
[14:01] <CrtxReavr> yeats, that was it. . . (the lock file) must have been a stale one hanging around. . . odd the error didn't mention it.
[14:01] <CrtxReavr> yeats, thanks.
[14:02] <yeats> CrtxReavr: happy to help!
[14:02] <CrtxReavr> Ciao.
[14:02] <BluesKaj>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               kdeuser^ no uuid for swap, that could be your problem
[14:02] <BluesKaj> oops
[14:02] <kdeuser^> BluesKaj: It seems to be a swap file
[14:03] <BluesKaj> yeah , you should uuid it as well
[14:03] <kdeuser^> BluesKaj: Ok. How do I do that?
[14:04] <BluesKaj> sudo blkid , then copy the uuid string without the quotes into /etc/fstab
[14:05] <kdeuser^> BluesKaj: I dont get one for swap
[14:05] <kdeuser^> BluesKaj: I get some 7 loop devices and 1 sda
[14:06] <kdeuser^> Can i resize and create a new swap partition now?
[14:06] <EriC^^> kdeuser^: you mean swapfile?
[14:07] <Qwerty> olááááááááááá'marilene
[14:07] <EriC^^> kdeuser^: if you want to look at the graph, type "systemd-analyze plot > /tmp/plot.svg && xdg-open /tmp/plot.svg"
[14:07] <leftyfb> Qwerty: can we help you with something?
[14:07] <Qwerty> look at the top of minha rola
[14:07] <Qwerty> graph é o cock
[14:08] <Qwerty> help by sending nudes
[14:08] <kdeuser^> EriC^^: Does Ubuntu only make a swapfile nowadays not a swap partition?
[14:08] <EriC^^> kdeuser^: yeah
[14:09] <kdeuser^> EriC^^: OK. and does it need a UUID?
[14:09] <EriC^^> no, you just specify /swapfile
[14:09] <kdeuser^> EriC^^: Does it help if I change these two params to 10s in systemd/system.conf? - DefaultTimeoutStartSec=10s
[14:09] <kdeuser^> DefaultTimeoutStopSec=10s
[14:09] <EriC^^> i have no idea kdeuser^
[14:09] <kdeuser^> EriC^^: default is 90s
[14:10] <kdeuser^> Ok.
[14:10] <kdeuser^> I will try that and see if it helps.
[14:10]  * BluesKaj backs off, never heard of /swapfile before
[14:14] <kdeuser^> EriC^^: Nope. that didnt make much difference... though the HDD light was constantly on.
[14:14] <kdeuser^> I guess I will leave it as it is.
[14:15] <EriC^^> kdeuser^: if you want a closer look at your booting process run the plot command above, i'm trying to decypher it somewhat, i dont have much experience with it
[14:16] <kdeuser^> EriC^^: Ok Me neither.
[14:17] <EriC^^> kdeuser^: actually, i just noticed your root device is taking 28 seconds to finish mounting
[14:17] <EriC^^> mine says 8secs, though i'm using a hdd not ssd
[14:18] <kdeuser^> EriC^^: mine is also a HDD
[14:18] <kdeuser^> EriC^^: Mine is an old lapotp. Dell Latitdude E6400
[14:18] <kdeuser^> Probably just the HDD starting to die
[14:19] <Apachez> anyone else who noticed that the snap version of gnome-calculator in ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS takes some time to start up compared to the regular gnome-calculator (which can be reinstalled - removed by the 17.10 to 18.04.1 upgrade)?
[14:19] <EriC^^> kdeuser^: try running a smart test on it
[14:19] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
[14:21] <EriC^^> kdeuser^: actually the plymouth-quit-wait.service is taking 22secs, meanwhile on my pc it takes 1ms
[14:22] <kdeuser^> EriC^^: Let me google to see why that could be
[14:23] <brainwash> kdeuser^: did you share "systemd-analyze critical-chain" yet?
[14:23] <Andre483> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[14:23] <EriC^^> kdeuser^: i think it's just another problem, something is taking longer so it waits longer til it quits plymouth
[14:23] <kdeuser^> EriC^^: that seems to be a service just waiting to close the boot up screen
[14:24] <kdeuser^> brainwash: Yes, I can share it once more. 1 sec
[14:24] <EriC^^> it doesn't look like anything is finishes before it decides to end though, odd
[14:24] <EriC^^> kdeuser^: yeah it is, also multi-user.target depends on it finishing i think
[14:24] <EriC^^> but no service is finishing, it's literally waiting in limbo for some time even
[14:25] <EriC^^> after the colord.service ends it waits another 5secs til it quits, then multi-user.target starts
[14:25] <kdeuser^> brainwash: https://pastebin.com/fZP6YhnA.
[14:26] <kdeuser^> brainwash: the above is a new one. The older one I posted before is https://pastebin.com/96xjTybn
[14:26] <kdeuser^> EriC^^: Yes. Strange.
[14:30] <kdeuser^> brainwash: There seems to be a solution on the same page of askubuntu to change timeout for network service to 10s or infintiy
[14:30] <kdeuser^> brainwash: EriC^^  brb
[14:31] <rfleming> Question:  In order to use Enterprise Login credentials in Online Accounts, do I need to be joined to a domain beforehand?
[14:34] <kdeuser^> brainwash: EriC^^  No. That didnt help
[14:37] <Atlas12> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[14:38] <Geeky_Bear> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[14:49] <Marcyt> hi all!! i have a problem with debian OS , and i want to change and try ubuntu, i have a question: the debian's documentation is the same of ubuntu's doc?
[14:50] <Psi-Jack> Marcyt: Mostly.
[14:55] <dp36> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[14:57] <otherRick> Hi, if I assign a gpio to the regulator-fixed in the device tree who turns on the device source?
[14:59] <ubuntu> hello
[15:01] <Guest44580> ??
[15:03] <BluesKaj> ubuntu is not an accepted nickname on #ububtu chat, hence the Guest44580 is chosen for you
[15:03] <BluesKaj> ubuntu chat even :-)
[15:13] <Zord25> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[15:16] <jucbit> hi
[15:16] <jucbit> i've a problem with online video
[15:37] <ijash> hi
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> ijash: welcome to ubuntu support, how can we help you?
[15:40] <ijash> lotuspsychje: is translucent window (semi transparent) is applicable in ubuntu gnome?
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> ijash: perhaps take a look in the new dconf-editor if you can find transparancy
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> !info dconf-editor | ijash
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> ijash: this is for the dock: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-customize-dock-panel-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[15:43] <ijash> lotuspsychje: yes i know about the dconf transparency, but, will it be able to make it blur? i seem cant find it anywhere on the net. please guide me
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> ijash: this extension perhaps? https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/982/glassy-gnome/
[15:45] <Syaiqun> help
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Syaiqun
[15:47] <ijash> lotuspsychje: yes i am aware of that extension. thank you. but what i was looking for is blurred transparency. not just regular transparency.
[15:49] <Syaiqun> Can i Installing Ubuntu 16.04 in Asus Laptop ??
[15:49] <Syaiqun> Can i Installing Ubuntu 16.04 in Asus Laptop ?? anyone know ..
[15:52] <adrian_1908> Syaiqun: there's a good chance that you can! Ubuntu should run on most consumer hardware, thought some wifi cards require a bit of tinkering.
[15:54] <Syaiqun> andrian_1908 : unfortunately, it seems AMD doesn't give any more support for my GPU for Linux. I really don't know what to do.
[15:55] <adrian_1908> Syaiqun: hmm, how old is the laptop?
[15:56] <Syaiqun> andrian_1908 : Actually i have been install it, but all of driver for my laptop have lost like key board, wifi, mousepad, etc. i was buy it for 4 until 6 month ago,
[15:57] <Syaiqun> andrian_1908 : buy this laptop i mean that
[15:58] <qwebirc68179> hello?
[15:58] <qwebirc68179> help
[15:59] <adrian_1908> Syaiqun: you mean you lost the driver CD that came with the laptop, or Ubuntu stopped supporting your old hardware?
[15:59] <adrian_1908> !ask | qwebirc68179
[15:59] <qwebirc68179> i wanna install ubuntu & dual boot with windows
[15:59] <Syaiqun> andrian_1908 : no
[16:00] <netsrot> Hi, how do I signal to toggle gallium hud? The guides I have tried only kills the process.
[16:00] <Syaiqun> i mean that i can't o find driver for this OS (Ubuntu) from AMD official website.
[16:00] <qwebirc68179> i wanna flash ubuntu 18.04 to a virtual drive (Daemon tools)
[16:00] <qwebirc68179> how should i do it?
[16:00] <Syaiqun> andrian_1908 : i mean that i can't o find driver for this OS (Ubuntu) from AMD official website.
[16:01] <xiambax> :D
[16:02] <adrian_1908> Syaiqun: oh, i thought because you mentioned keyboard, touchpad etc. - well do you know what exact GPU your system has? I'm more of an Nvidia user, but maybe the open source driver just works out of the box?
[16:02] <xiambax> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhQhZyNKqhM
[16:02] <Syaiqun> andrian_1908 : yess, my GPU is AMD A12
[16:03] <Syaiqun> andrian_1908 : what does it mean ??
[16:04] <EriC^> Syaiqun: what does "sudo ubuntu-drivers devices" show?
[16:04] <Syaiqun> andrian_1908 : my key board can't to be used
[16:05] <Syaiqun> Eric : Sorry, my key board can't to be used
[16:05] <EriC^^> Syaiqun: why not?
[16:06] <Syaiqun> Eric : All of driver for this OS doesn't given more suport by AMD
[16:07] <Syaiqun> Eric : my Keyboard, wifi, mouse, touchpad, can't be used after i have done installing Ubuntu 16.04 for Amd
[16:09] <EriC^^> Syaiqun: they were working during the "try ubuntu" session?
[16:10] <Syaiqun> Eric : I'm sorry, i don't understand with that
[16:10] <adrian_1908> Syaiqun: did you upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04?
[16:12] <Syaiqun> andrian_1908 : my part is Ubuntu 16.04
[16:12] <adrian_1908> Syaiqun: Well, you install Ubuntu somehow, how did you do that if your keyboard, mouse and touchpad don't work?
[16:14] <Syaiqun> andrian_1908 : i mean that after finish my instalation, and it's is open the dekstop of ubuntu. All of my Driver not function ..
[16:15] <adrian_1908> Syaiqun: Well, the A12 shouldn't be an issue I think, I don't know what went wrong that nothing works after you installed, that's super rare.
[16:16] <EriC^^> Syaiqun: when you put the live usb you can choose between "try ubuntu" and "install ubuntu", did you give the try ubuntu a go?
[16:16] <EriC^^> actually nevermind
[16:16] <EriC^^> Syaiqun: did you choose to upgrade during installation?
[16:17] <ioria> Syaiqun, i can understand the mouse problem, but are you sure that also the keyboard does not work ?
[16:18] <Syaiqun> andrian_1908 :Thanks andrian for your Help, really i thanks for it, but it's really right ?? if not to be problem if ubuntu get installed on A12 GPU ??
[16:18] <lestaty> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[16:18] <Syaiqun> Eric : I'm sorry for it, i really forgetted, what i should be chosen from that sessions ??
[16:19] <ioria> Syaiqun, please, boot the ubuntu -usb installer again, and choose  'Try ubuntu without install'
[16:20] <Syaiqun> Eric : I'm sorry  again for Upgrading of that, i not remembered all of part instalation i just doing what must be answered from GUI Installer
[16:20] <ioria> Syaiqun, are you a bot ?
[16:20] <Syaiqun> ioria : yeahh really oll of my driver can't to be used. wifi etc
[16:21] <EriC^^> Syaiqun: try this, hold shift to get grub, go to advanced, choose the older kernel if there are 2 kernels there and see if it works
[16:21] <Syaiqun> ioria : i'm sorry ??
[16:21] <ioria> Syaiqun,  boot the ubuntu-usb installer again, and choose  'Try ubuntu without install'
[16:22] <EriC^^> i think it's unnecessary, if he was able to use the keyboard to use the installer alone i think it means it works in live session
[16:22] <adrian_1908> EriC^^: I wonder, isn't the A12 actually kind of new? Maybe 18.04 with the newer kernel would help?
[16:22] <EriC^^> it must have upgraded during the install or something and the new kernel doesnt work well or something
[16:22] <Syaiqun> Eric : Yeahh really thanks for it, i'll try it again, tomorrow
[16:23] <EriC^^> adrian_1908: yeah different kernel might help
[16:23] <EriC^^> Syaiqun: ok, good luck
[16:24] <Syaiqun> Eric : Yeahh i remembered that i chose updated even i instaled
[16:25] <ioria> adrian_1908, 16.04 last version has the same bionic kernel
[16:25] <Syaiqun> ioria : Thanks for it, I hope that it's being solutions i'll try again from the first step
[16:26] <Syaiqun> ioria : I think that 18.04 still being beta ?? it's right ??
[16:27] <ioria> Syaiqun, nope
[16:27] <adrian_1908> Syaiqun: no, 18.04 has been released. You can try that too if you want.
[16:27] <GeekDude26> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[16:28] <Syaiqun> andrian_1908 : The best option again for trying .. i 'll downloading now, Thanks
[16:29] <adrian_1908> Syaiqun: good luck!
[16:29] <adrian_1908> Sorry for offtopic, but what's with the bots spamming messages about freenode? Is there some brief commentary on this somewhere? I read the article they refer to.
[16:30] <leftyfb> adrian_1908: please go to #freenode for that question
[16:30] <adrian_1908> ok, thanks.
[16:31] <Syaiqun> andrian_1908 : what is the Freenode ? sorry i don't know
[16:35] <Syaiqun> #freenode
[16:42] <soud> Hi, I'm facing a really annoying problem running Ubuntu 16.04 on a 2015 Macbook Pro. Every time I reboot or poweroff, my keyboard doesn't function at grub or anywhere and it won't boot. I have to reset my NVRAM every time, which also resets EFI boot order, so I have to boot a live USB every time I reboot/poweroff. Anyone any clue what's causing this?
[16:46] <Aleric> Hello... trying to upgrade I get this popup: https://gyazo.com/42f0f17638251cf8e5c0a87f47e9ad4c
[16:47] <Aleric> What is the 'software-properties' tool? I'm using apt as package manager and never heard of that.
[16:47] <Rapture> I ran into an issue where my Ubuntu 16 instance was getting these "read only file system" errors when I tried to SSH in or really anything. I managed to get the volume mounted on another instance but am not sure what to look at to see what could have happened. It seems like the OS went into read only mode to prevent failures.
[16:48] <brainwash> Aleric: I think you open it by running the command 'software-properties'
[16:48] <brainwash> Aleric: via terminal window or application launcher
[16:49] <Aleric> software-properties: command not found
[16:50] <brainwash> Aleric: try software-properties-gtk
[16:51] <Aleric> ok, that works; thanks.
[16:52] <Aleric> Is it normal that the upgrade window that I get (that starts with fetching packages) has no window border and sit in the far top-left corner of my desktop, even UNDER a utility / dock panel?
[16:52] <brainwash> doesn't sound right
[16:54] <brainwash> Rapture: so, best to check the kernel log
[16:55] <Rapture> brainwash: yeah I'm going through /var/log now. I just have the volume mounted on another instance looking through. First time I've seen this issue but my search pointed to Ubuntu going into some sort of Read Only mode
[16:55] <brainwash> could be the case
[16:55] <Rapture> 2018-08-09T02:09:47+00:00 es.us-west-2-prod.10.255.1.50 mkhomedir_helper:  PAM unable to create directory /home/redacted: Read-only file system
[16:56] <Rapture> other logs looked similar.
[16:56] <Rapture> It was an instance in our Elasticsearch cluster though so kind of crazy
[17:11] <texla> Wanting to install Ubuntu to sata hdd in 3.0 usb enclosure..Do I install grub bootloader to /dev/sda or to /dev/sda1???
[17:12] <ioria> texla, if it's an external drive, unlikely will be sda
[17:12] <tomreyn> texla: what is onb sda?
[17:12] <tomreyn> *on
[17:13] <ioria> texla,  the general rule is to install grub on the external device (probably, sdb)
[17:13] <texla> tomreyn, This is a new drive without any partition configured
[17:14] <tomreyn> Rapture: feel free to pastebin /var/log/syslog and / or dmesg. maybe just "dmesg | tail -n100" is sufficient
[17:15] <tomreyn> texla: are you sure sda is that drive then?
[17:16] <Aleric> This how my upgrade window looks like: https://gyazo.com/04deeb7271ad334dabfa6d29586dd6e0
[17:16] <pryon> I have an issue with tmux after upgrading from artful to bionic with do-release-upgrade
[17:16] <pryon> it doesn't rewrite the screen every once in a while when inside tmux
[17:17] <pryon> outside of tmux and in screen it's fine
[17:17] <Aleric> Ie, it isn't updating its draw.... Doesn't give me much trust in how the upgrade will go :(
[17:17] <texla> tomreyn, The gparted info and the uuid info point this new install to sda my internal is sda
[17:18] <pryon> so for example running clear doesn't always clear the tmux window it's issued in
[17:18] <pryon> only the topmost line
[17:18] <tomreyn> texla: this seems contradictory?
[17:18] <JacobTDC> Is it possible to change GRUB2 settings to properly load a SynPS/2 keyboard?
[17:18] <tomreyn> texla: if your internal disk is sda and the external one, too, something is wrong.
[17:19] <texla> tomreyn, Yes I agree but all the partition that are on sda internal are now on sdb external
[17:20] <tomreyn> texla: i don't think i can follow. i suggest you spawn a shell and run 'lsblk' to investiaget the situation
[17:20] <tomreyn> (and post the output if you'd like feedback from us on it)
[17:22] <JacobTDC> And, is it possible to increase color density on Ubuntu CLI/Minimal?
[17:23] <foist> Is there some way to dim all my non-active windows? It's a little bit hard to tell which one is in focus sometimes. I'm on 18.04.1
[17:24] <Aleric> "No longer supported gitk", "No longer supported xterm", "Remove cmake"... hmm
[17:25] <Aleric> "Downloading will take 7 hours on a DSL blah blah ... 5 days on ... blah".. *clicks Upgrade* ... '2 minutes remaining.'
[17:32] <JacobTDC> 1+2
[17:32] <theaetetus> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[17:32] <JacobTDC> Oh... oops...
[17:39] <Aleric> I'm going to be so screwed after this upgrade... I feel it.
[17:40] <supermariobronze> .
[17:41] <Aleric> Probably will lose my whole desktop again, like after every upgrade: all icons, menu's and panels will be empty... My jack based sound won't work of course... and I'm going to get any graphics because the nvidia drivers will be borked :/
[17:53] <Aleric> Ugh... my /usr partition is running full.
[17:54] <leftyfb> Aleric: why do you have a separate /usr partition?
[17:54] <saint_> hi guys.. how do i install java 8 from the console ? i remove java 9, but the command line i found online to install java8 is not working ..
[17:56] <Aleric> leftyfb: To guard partitions like that from having no space when something else uses an insane amount of harddisk space and fills up my disks :p.  /usr is supposed to be very stable/fixed in size.
[17:56] <leftyfb> Aleric: not really. Also, it didn't work. You should really only worry about /home being it's own partition. The rest should just be on one big partition
[17:56] <Aleric> IF it runs full then I can't believe that the upgrade application didn't check for that... a million users use it to upgrade their OS no? *someone* is bound to have a /usr partition etc...
[17:57] <Aleric> That's not a reason to not even check if the upgrade will ruin someones machine if they don't have one big partition.
[17:57] <leftyfb> Aleric: ok, file a bug
[17:57] <leftyfb> !bug | Aleric
[17:57] <Aleric> Yup at 100% now :(
[17:58] <leftyfb> Aleric: sudo ncdu /usr # to find out what's using all your space?
[17:58] <Aleric> sudo: ncdu: command not found
[17:58] <leftyfb> install it
[17:58] <leftyfb> Aleric: my laptop is at 12G for just /usr ... I use the hell out of my laptop
[17:59] <Aleric> That is not possible, apt is locked
[17:59] <leftyfb> it's not on a separate partition
[17:59] <Aleric> My /usr is 20 GB
[17:59] <leftyfb> Aleric: then you might have something taking up too much space
[17:59] <ioria> Aleric, the upgrader calculates the space needed and should notify you if it's not enough
[17:59] <leftyfb> ioria: for / or all necessary partitions?
[18:00] <Guest51933> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[18:00] <ioria> leftyfb, good question
[18:00] <leftyfb> it probably doesn't check for the small amount of people who are stuck in the 90's with separate partitions for everything
[18:01] <ArsenArsen12> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[18:01] <ArsenArsen12> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[18:01] <ArsenArsen12> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[18:01] <ioria> maybe.. but like that would be useless
[18:02] <leftyfb> ioria: those same people tend to be very vocal and set in their ways ... not entirely useless ;)
[18:02] <ioria> leftyfb, yeah
[18:02] <xubuntu18041> Since the upgrade to; libgnome-menu-3-0:amd64 3.13.3-11ubuntu1 3.13.3-11ubuntu1.1 + gir1.2-gmenu-3.0:amd64 3.13.3-11ubuntu1 3.13.3-11ubuntu1.1 + gnome-menus:amd64 3.13.3-11ubuntu1 3.13.3-11ubuntu1.1 when I run glogg  1.1.4-1 , the /home/hosty/.xsession-errors log fills with the line; QFile::open: File (/home/hosty/.xsession-errors) already open  QFile::open: File (/var/log/syslog) already open ; and fills the HD in seconds!
[18:03] <Aleric> Well.. everything stopped working.
[18:03] <Aleric> I can't make a screenshot anymore... the icons in the taskbar aren't in the right place, so I can't see what I'm clicking on...
[18:04] <Aleric> But I ran k4dirstat on /usr and it looks totally normal.  Just a million small files, all libraries mostly.
[18:04] <Aleric> The largest file is 148MB the chromium-browser
[18:05] <Aleric> It just adds up to 20 GB now.
[18:05] <leftyfb> Aleric: something is taking that space. 20G isn't really that normal
[18:05] <leftyfb> Aleric: I would suggest booting to a live cd and installing ncdu and checking it
[18:05] <Aleric> I think it is; I have a lot of software installed.
[18:05] <Aleric> All packages.
[18:06] <Aleric> I think it installed everything double now, during the upgrade?
[18:06] <leftyfb> that won't happen
[18:06] <xubuntu18041> xubuntu-18.04 - Linux host-name 4.15.0-30-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP  x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:06] <Aleric> Of course I'm not going to use a partition of 30 GB when normally it only uses, very stable, 14 GB.
[18:07] <Aleric> I have a terabyte partition that is empty... why isn't the upgrade tool asking for some large partition to use for the upgrade? This makes no sense :/
[18:08] <leftyfb> Aleric: the installer should look at your setup, understand your decisions and suggest an alternate config based on assumptions about what drives and partitions you're ok with using?
[18:09] <Aleric> So.. I got an error saying "Could not install '/var/cache/apt/archives/valgrind-etc.deb'.  The upgrade will continue but the '/var/.../.deb' package may not be in a working state. Please consider submitting a bug report about it.
[18:10] <Aleric> It is going to CONTINUE?  I'm at 60% .. so from now on EVERYTHING will fail.
[18:10] <leftyfb> Aleric: rsync all of /usr onto that TB partition and remount it over your current /usr and change your fstab. Then continue with the install and move thing around later
[18:10] <Aleric> How can I abort this "upgrade"?
[18:10] <leftyfb> that I'm not sure about
[18:11] <supermariobronze> what exactly is the problem here
[18:11] <Aleric> Hmm... you think I can mount another partition over /usr while that is open?
[18:11] <leftyfb> Aleric: I think you should try to stop and recover from the upgrade process somehow
[18:16] <Aleric> I can't replace /usr, but /usr/lib contains 8GB .. if I can delete that and simply add a symlink to /opt then maybe it can continue.
[18:16] <tomreyn> xubuntu18041: file a bug against glogg, i guess: "ubuntu-bug glogg"
[18:16] <Aleric> 1.1G    bin
[18:16] <Aleric> 8.0G    lib
[18:16] <Aleric> 7.7G    share
[18:16] <Aleric> That's where most data is.
[18:16] <tomreyn> !paste | Aleric
[18:17] <Aleric> Hmm, replace share feels safer.
 Ok, I might wait for https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/bionic-changes/2018-August/015895.html ; and see if that fixs problem
[18:21] <tomreyn> xubuntu18041: i guess it's either a bug in glogg or something qt related
[18:23] <xubuntu18041> tomreyn; Problem started after the upgrades, so hard to say ??
[18:23] <tomreyn> xubuntu18041: looks like this is a related upstream bug report https://github.com/nickbnf/glogg/issues/181
[18:25] <jeremies> How to know if a package in APT repositories is free (libre) software ?
[18:25] <tomreyn> xubuntu18041: none of the updated packages you discussed is QT related, but glogg uses QT, and the error message which spills your logs is QT related (python-qt / pyqt specifically)
[18:27] <EriC^> jeremies: i think it's all free except for the ones in multiverse repo
[18:27] <EriC^> jeremies: still free there just has some licensing or something, others will surely explain better
[18:27] <ksft1> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[18:29] <xubuntu18041> tomreyn; Thanks for the link. strange it's been working fine for months, I will look futher into the QT problem
[18:29] <tomreyn> EriC^: there are non-free and non libre package sin main, so that's not the defining factor.
[18:29] <jeremies> EriC^: but if you do "apt-cache show java-common" it shows "Section: devel" but nothing of multiverse or universe as in other packages
[18:30] <EriC^> tomreyn: i see
[18:31] <tomreyn> example: intel-microcode / amd64-microcode
[18:32] <EriC^> aha
[18:33] <tomreyn> (which, i think, violates https://www.ubuntu.com/licensing )
[18:33] <jeremies> But how to know if a package is libre software using apt-cache ?
[18:33] <EriC^> !Info java-common
[18:34] <EriC^> !info java-common
[18:35] <jeremies> !info default-jdk
[18:35] <jeremies> If it says "In component main" then it's libre software ?
[18:37] <Lope> Can someone please clarify what's going on with libav-tools and ffmpeg?
[18:37] <Lope> First ffmpeg wasn't available in recent ubuntu versions, only libav-tools. and now it seems only ffmpeg is available...?
[18:37] <pragmaticenigma> Lope: Please be more specific, is there something in particular you would like to know?
[18:37] <Lope> Why is it so polarized?
[18:38] <Lope> first you can't have this, only that. Now only that, not this.
[18:38] <pragmaticenigma> Lope: This is a support channel, please keep commentary to #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:38] <Lope> It's not commentary
[18:38] <Lope> This is a support question
[18:39] <pragmaticenigma> Lope: It was an upstream decision to switch from ffmpeg to libav. Debian chose to move to libav in 2011, and now has decided to go back
[18:39] <Lope> In a recent ubuntu version, I wanted to use ffmpeg as I had done before, and I was told that ubuntu doesn't support ffmpeg anymore, only libav-tools
[18:39] <Lope> Now I tried to install libav-tools and the repos say it's not available and suggest ffmpeg.
[18:40] <tomreyn> Lope: there was a fork, then things got settled, and the projects reunited, that's from memory, you'll need to do the fact finding / verification yourself
[18:40] <if`m> kaniini has invited you to join #litepub
[18:40] <pragmaticenigma> Lope: Check out: https://lwn.net/Articles/650816/
[18:42] <Lope> Thanks pragmaticenigma
[18:44] <tomreyn> looks like i stated this incorrectly, libav still exists and produces their own releases
[18:45] <ash_worksi> it'd be really nice to be able to have a search that just searches the current directory in the file explorer again
[18:46] <ash_worksi> anyone know how I can get that back?
[18:47] <EriC^> ash_worksi: ctrl+s doesnt work anymore?
[18:49] <Nitrogen> Greetings! How can I remove the first 4 characters in every file-name of a folder?
[18:49] <pragmaticenigma> tomreyn: yeah, I also thought at one point that installing ffmpeg would just install libav instead with scripts translating.
[18:49] <qwebirc18157> pls i need help can't install ubuntu 18.04.1
[18:50] <pragmaticenigma> Nitrogen: Google is faster: https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&hs=wYD&channel=fs&q=terminal+remove+first+4+characters+of+a+filename&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwih7Ny60eDcAhVM4oMKHZu2BzYQBQgkKAA&biw=1024&bih=649
[18:51] <pragmaticenigma> Nitrogen: Search term: "terminal remove first 4 characters of a filename"
[18:51] <EriC^> !details | qwebirc18157
[18:51] <qwebirc18157> the screen is splitted
[18:51] <qwebirc18157> but dublicated
[18:52] <qwebirc18157> and only the top left of the screen is working
[18:52] <qwebirc18157> so i can't pick options
[18:52] <qwebirc18157> my build consist of amd ryzen r3 2200g
[18:52] <qwebirc18157> can i post screen shots?
[18:52] <ash_worksi> EriC^: bleh... I guess. I'd rather it 'show' then 'select
[18:53] <EriC^> qwebirc18157: sure
[18:53] <qwebirc18157> how?
[18:53] <usr123> Trying to find a guide to install cs go natively on ubuntu 18, but unable to
[18:53] <blurkis> is there an opensource alternative to using vmware ?
[18:54] <leftyfb> blurkis: qemu/libvirt
[18:54] <leftyfb> blurkis: you could also look into containers with lxd
[18:54] <ash_worksi> but I'll work with that
[18:54] <EriC^> qwebirc18157: use your phone and upload to imgur.com
[18:55] <leftyfb> blurkis: I'm not sure it's open source, but there's also virtualbox
[18:55] <qwebirc18157> EriC^: ok
[18:56] <leftyfb> blurkis: of course, just googling for "open source alternative to vmware" brings up a ton of options including the ones I mentioned
[18:56] <Quackery> will my backups created by the backup tool in 16.04 get restored once i upgrade to 18.04.01?
[18:56] <blurkis> leftyfb, was doing that the same time you answered :)
[18:59] <qwebirc18157> EriC^^: here is ss http://imgur.com/xVDGw1b
[19:00] <qwebirc54598> hello, I am unable to install ubuntu to my new lenovo ideapad
[19:01] <qwebirc54598> I followed the directions online and downloaded infra recorder
[19:02] <qwebirc54598> My laptop will only start up with windows, I've tried booting from usb & cd
[19:02] <EriC^^> qwebirc54598: does the installer boot at all?
[19:02] <qwebirc54598> no :(
[19:03] <qwebirc18157> my installer boot but like the ss i send
[19:03] <EriC^^> qwebirc54598: try pressing F12 when the pc starts then choose usb
[19:03] <EriC^^> you might need to press Fn + F12
[19:03] <tomreyn> qwebirc54598: provide the exactl model number, and please pick a new nickname like so: /nick mynewnickname
[19:03] <qwebirc54598> I tried booting with F12, F10 and F2 all at different times
[19:04] <tomreyn> qwebirc18157: you, too. please provide the exactl model number, and pick a new nickname like so: /nick mynewnickname
[19:04] <Aleric> Ugh... well, freed up 7 GB on /usr by copying /usr/share to another partition, deleting /usr/share and then bind mounting it to the copy. After that I still got a dozen errors for some reason (about disk ful), but eventually it seems to have continued :/
[19:05] <kemo> i build a pc with amd ryzen r3 2200g
[19:05] <EriC^^> qwebirc54598: do you get a menu with F12?
[19:05] <kemo> when i boot to the installer of 18.04.1 i get the installer like this http://imgur.com/xVDGw1b
[19:08] <ioria> kemo, i thin you need nomodeset
[19:09] <tomreyn> kemo: you can try booting with amdgpu.dc=1
[19:09] <ioria> or that ^
[19:09] <kemo> ioria: can u explain more?
[19:09] <tomreyn> !nomodeset | kemo
[19:10] <kemo> tomreyn: how i could do that?
[19:10] <ioria> kemo, when the installer starts, you need to modify the default kernel parameter
[19:10] <ioria> !info nomodeset | kemo
[19:10] <ioria> !nomodeset | kemo
[19:11] <tomreyn> AKA see above ;-)
[19:12] <ioria> kemo, read above you got ryzen r3 2200g, right ?
[19:12] <tomreyn> kemo: be sure to switch off the computer fully before you power it on again to start installing.
[19:13] <kemo> ioria: yes i have that
[19:13] <oerheks> maybe installing amd-microcode manually does some fixes for that ryzen 2200 ?
[19:14] <kemo> how i do that if i in installing with un propper display
[19:14] <oerheks> and make sure you have the latest bios update
[19:14] <ioria> kemo, i can tell you'll have some issues with that also if nomodest would work
[19:15] <kemo> how i can run nomodest?
[19:15] <kemo> by editing iso?
[19:16] <AmenoParallasse> I cannot reach Google related sites (Gmail, YouTube, ...) running Ubuntu 14.04, problem with both chrome and Firefox... All other sites work, same for other software with internet access
[19:16] <EriC^^> kemo: http://pchelp.site/topics/black-screen-live-usb.php
[19:16] <kemo> http://imgur.com/c1b72xn that happens before it display that splited weird screen
[19:17] <kemo> i can't use uefi since my win is legacy mood
[19:18] <kemo> but in legacy mood i don't get that menu
[19:18] <ioria> kemo, and what do you get ?
[19:20] <kemo> purple screen with keyboard logo and somthing else in the bottom center then this errors http://imgur.com/c1b72xn then boot to installer that let me choose lang and try or install but not displayed correctly like this http://imgur.com/xVDGw1b
[19:21] <ioria> kemo, did you start the installer in legacy mode ?
[19:21] <kemo> yes
[19:21] <kemo> my win 10 is in legacy so i used the legacy
[19:21] <ioria> yes
[19:22] <kemo> i can't use uefi bcs will not detect win 10
[19:22] <kemo> but uefi installer works like a charm
[19:22] <tomreyn> kemo: so you want to setup dual-booting windows 10 and ubuntu 18.04?
[19:22] <kemo> but not detecting win 100
[19:22] <ioria> kemo, that's weird, but ok .... so no Main menu at all ?
[19:22] <kemo> no main menu in legacy but only on uefi and i want legacy
[19:23] <kemo> tomreyn: yes
[19:23] <tomreyn> kemo: okay, holdf down shift key during installer boot
[19:23] <kemo> aha then?
[19:23] <tomreyn> this will bring up this menu - second screenshot:  http://pchelp.site/topics/black-screen-live-usb.php
[19:24] <kemo> but this is wefi right?
[19:24] <kemo> uefi*
[19:24] <ioria> nope
[19:24] <kemo> i want legacy
[19:24] <kemo> aha ok will try
[19:24] <tomreyn> kemo: this is legacy bios. then you follow the instructions there to add nomodeset
[19:24] <ioria> kemo, should be legacy csm
[19:24] <Aleric> Ugh.... So, in the end it says "The upgrade has completed. But there was errors during the upgrade process.".  I click OK and everything closes.
[19:25] <Aleric> No reboot? wtf now?
[19:25] <tomreyn> Aleric: whom are you talking to?
[19:26] <Aleric> The channel :/
[19:26] <tomreyn> Aleric: provide context if you are looking for assitence
[19:26] <ioria> Aleric, 	sudo apt install -f   fix and 	sudo dpkg --configure -a  are powerful tools
[19:26] <Aleric> tomreyn, you already forgot I ran out of diskspace half I guess.
[19:27] <tomreyn> kemophone: : if "nomodeset" doesn't improve it, then shutdoiwn and power off the system and repeat, but with amdgpu.dc=1
[19:27] <kemophone> Ok
[19:28] <tomreyn> kemophone: if this also doesn't help, then shutdoiwn and power off the system and repeat, but with "quiet" removed and with this added:  acp_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2015"
[19:28] <kemophone> Kept holding shift but the menu didn't show up
[19:28] <Aleric> ioria: Thanks.  How can I check if a specific package has the right version and is correctly installed? I made a list of all packages that fails (and those commands didn't fix all of them)
[19:29] <Aleric> failed*
[19:29] <tomreyn> kemophone: try hittinfg shift repeatedly then
[19:29] <ioria> Aleric, that mean (probably) that you have non-stock packages, i'am afraid
[19:29] <tomreyn> Aleric: i don't remember discussing this with you, so i guess i must have forgotten, yes
[19:29] <ioria> *s
[19:29] <qwebirc92370> hi guys
[19:30] <qwebirc92370> is my good pal around here? it's me fortless
[19:30] <ioria> Aleric, like ppa or stuff
[19:30] <Aleric> ioria: no - normal packages.
[19:30] <kemo> http://imgur.com/RKX7XSO
[19:30] <Fortless> test nickname
[19:30] <Aleric> valgrind was the first to fail.
[19:30] <tomreyn> kemo: that's with which option?
[19:31] <Aleric> kde-style-oxygen-qt5 failed too
[19:31] <Aleric> and so 30 or so more.
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[19:31] <kemo> The menu didn't showed up
[19:31] <ioria> Aleric, we need to see something ;  paste sudo apt update
[19:31] <tomreyn> kemo: did you read / do this? <tomreyn> kemophone: try hittinfg shift repeatedly then
[19:31] <Fortless> i can not install linux on hdd drive 2 and drive 1 is broken but i want to investigate it further
[19:32] <kemo> Will try rebedatly now
[19:32] <ioria> kemo, go in 'try uubntu without install'
[19:32] <Fortless> and please give me command for talk to person as pm or in whisper
[19:33] <kemo> Repeating didn't work
[19:33] <tomreyn> kemo: also, as was suggested before, you should definitely do a bios update (probably from windows) first of all
[19:33] <Aleric> Oh, for crying out loud... now /var is full again...
[19:34] <kemo> It's updated
[19:34] <kemo> When i chosed try ubuntu
[19:34] <kemo> It opened ubuntu in the samy weird display
[19:34] <tomreyn> kemo: how can you choose this when you dont get to see the menu?
[19:34] <ioria> right, right
[19:34] <kemo> See the last ss
[19:35] <leftyfb> Fortless: what version of ubuntu are you trying to install?
[19:35] <tomreyn> kemo: oh right this prompt is repeated graphically later
[19:35] <Fortless> latest
[19:35] <leftyfb> Fortless: what version exactly?
[19:35] <Fortless> some numbers ... .1
[19:35] <Fortless> wait
[19:35] <Fortless> lemme look up
[19:35] <kemo> But i get it first not the menu u talking about
[19:35] <Aleric> ioria: http://codepad.org/YMZ1EdmA
[19:36] <Fortless> 18.04.0.1
[19:36] <Fortless> not beaver
[19:36] <Fortless> i think
[19:36] <Fortless> don't know how to check in terminal
[19:36] <leftyfb> Fortless: where did you get the install media?
[19:36] <tomreyn> kemo:  so you do get to see this screen or not? http://pchelp.site/images/ubuntu-uefi-installer.png
[19:36] <Fortless> usb
[19:37] <Aleric> Ok, those 31 are exactly the ones that I wrote down.
[19:37] <Fortless> i mean from usb
[19:37] <leftyfb> Fortless: ok, what error do you get when you try to install it?
[19:37] <kemo> No it don't show up
[19:37] <kemo> I can see the uefi one
[19:37] <ioria> Aleric,  uname -r
[19:37] <Fortless> none, it succeeded succesfully
[19:37] <kemo> And it works with right display
[19:37] <Fortless> but it does not run
[19:37] <Aleric> ioria: 4.4.0-131-generic
[19:37] <leftyfb> Fortless: what error do you get when it boots?
[19:38] <ash_worksi> why is this kicking me into LESS when running `./pg_sample ...` after cloning this?: https://github.com/mla/pg_sample
[19:38] <Fortless> bios boots up but os doesn't boot
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[19:38] <ash_worksi> the shebang on pg_sample is perl
[19:38] <tomreyn> kemo: is your monitor connected via hdmi or displaylink?
[19:38] <leftyfb> Fortless: did you set the BIOS to boot to the drive you installed to?
[19:38] <ioria> Aleric,  paste sudo apr full-upgrade
[19:38] <kemo> With vga connector
[19:38] <Fortless> i select 2nd drive on boot with f8
[19:38] <ash_worksi> and `which perl` shows /usr/bin/perl
[19:38] <leftyfb> Fortless: ok, and did it ask you and did you pick that drive when the installed installed grub?
[19:39] <Fortless> maybe that the reason?
[19:39] <kemo> But why display of uefi is right and legacy is not
[19:39] <tomreyn> kemo: oh wow, old ideapad, eh. is hdmi or displaylink an option?
[19:39] <kemo> No don't have those
[19:39] <Fortless> yes, i read correctly what ubuntu asks, and i perform accordingly
[19:39] <Fortless> nothing wrong i did there
[19:39] <leftyfb> I'm sure
[19:39] <ioria> Aleric,  paste sudo apt full-upgrade
[19:40] <Fortless> i select sdc b instead of a
[19:40] <ash_worksi> oh I think I get it
[19:40] <tomreyn> kemo: which ideapad model is it?
[19:40] <Kabe0> Anyone having network issues in Ubuntu 18.04? I can't get the DNS to resolve unless I manually modify the resolv.conf dns every time
[19:40] <leftyfb> Fortless: I would suggest removing ALL drives from your machine other than the 1 drive you are installed to and then reinstall again
[19:40] <Fortless> i see it is the 1tb drive and not the 2tb wich is broken atm
[19:40] <ash_worksi> it's probably a malformed command which is supposed to trigger help text which can't without perl-doc
[19:40] <ash_worksi> is my guess
[19:40] <Fortless> ok i'll try that
[19:41] <tomreyn> kemo: you can also try hitting escape repeatedly during boot, instead of using the shift key. maybe try this.
[19:41] <Fortless> until then... thanks already leftyfb
[19:41] <ash_worksi> nope... just showing me a manpage after install perl-doc
[19:41] <kemo> I don't use ideapad
[19:41] <kemo> I use builded pc
[19:41] <kemo> With ryzen 2200g
[19:41] <tomreyn> kemo: oh, looks like i mixed you up with the other person who was originall using a qwebirc nickanme, sorry.
[19:42] <ioria> kemo, yes, and the problem is your APU
[19:42] <kemo> Aha ok
[19:42] <kemo> Finally
[19:42] <kemo> The menu
[19:42] <kemo> Showed
[19:42] <kemo> With esc
[19:43] <tomreyn> kemo: you could have delivered the same message in a single line ;-) but i'm glad it worked.
[19:43] <kemo> I choose nomodest then what?
[19:43] <ioria> kemo,  ctrl+x or F10
 kemophone: : if "nomodeset" doesn't improve it, then shutdoiwn and power off the system and repeat, but with amdgpu.dc=1
 kemophone: if this also doesn't help, then shutdoiwn and power off the system and repeat, but with "quiet" removed and with this added:  acp_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2015"
[19:45] <kemo> Nomodest worked guys really ty for ur help :)
[19:46] <tomreyn> looks like we have reasons to be non modest. glad it worked!
[19:47] <ioria> kemo,  try to install ; you might  need a newer  kernel than 4.15 but we'll see
[19:47] <Aleric> ioria: http://codepad.org/QmM2n67z
[19:47] <kemo> Ty guys if i had problems after install will let u know ty again
[19:49] <ioria> Aleric, something wrong, yes ... but i'd try anyways to upgrade
[19:50] <Aleric> I did - only two packages that I wrote down left: nodejs and obsession - the rest was now updated.
[19:50] <ioria> Aleric, remove the packages that failed
[19:50] <Aleric> These are now listed as simply not installed.
[19:51] <Aleric> I have no idea what they are for?
[19:51] <ioria> Aleric, like 'rc' ? or what ?
[19:52] <ioria> !info synergy
[19:52] <Aleric> ioria: http://codepad.org/12NH4CmA
[19:52] <Aleric> That synergy is held back is normal.
[19:52] <Aleric> I patched that and I don't want it to be upgraded.
[19:52] <ioria> Aleric, apt cache policy apt
[19:53] <ioria> ah, ok
[19:53] <Aleric> E: Invalid operation cache
[19:53] <ioria> Aleric, apt-cache policy apt
[19:53] <Aleric> 1.6.3
[19:54] <Aleric> That is up to date (bionic).
[19:54] <ioria> Aleric, ok, ls /boot
[19:54] <Aleric> Lemme run apt autoremove
[19:54] <ioria> wait
[19:54] <ioria> Aleric, you can run it later
[19:54] <Aleric> http://codepad.org/ppfrTHCF
[19:55] <ioria> Aleric, looks good
[19:56] <Aleric> reboot?
[19:56] <Aleric> No I can't
[19:56] <Aleric> I have /usr/share still bind mounted - I want to put that back first.
[19:57] <Aleric> But there isn't enough disk space still /usr :/.. Maybe the apt autoremove will fix that?
[19:57] <ioria> oh, yes
[19:58] <Aleric> Or I could boot to single user mode and fix it from there.  I guess a symlink from /usr/share --> should work too.
[20:00] <Aleric> Ugh, that freed up 1 GB - but still not enough.
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[20:01] <Aleric> I suspect that a lot of the files are still open by applications, even though they are deleted.
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[20:17] <Aleric> brb
[20:26] <texla> tomreyn: https://pastebin.com/ZsH3BHFN This is the results from lsblk I downloaded an o/s to the usb enclosure and you can see it shows as sda1 and under the sdb are three o/s including Ubuntu which were installed on sda
[20:26] <lordcirth_work> Ok why does Alt-arrow keys switch to a tty now?  It used to be Ctrl-Alt-arrow.  Now I can't alttab properly.
[20:28] <deadrom> hi
[20:28] <deadrom> https://askubuntu.com/questions/637450/cannot-perform-smart-data-and-self-test-on-external-hard-drive/637465
[20:28] <deadrom> says "finally regenerate initramfs by issuing mkinitcpio -p linux" - it's a 14.04 guid and I don't have mkinitcpio in 16.04
[20:29] <deadrom> has the tool changed or am I missing a package?
[20:29] <texla> ioria Please look at https://pastebin.com/ZsH3BHFN and see what I have been trying to tell people
[20:30] <Aleric> lordcirth_work: Are you on 18.04? Can you please tell me if /usr/share/.mono is a sym link or a directory?
[20:30] <tomreyn> texla: by the time this lsblk was run, the operating system had mo9unted /dev/sda1 as the root file system /. so if you ran this from the installer / live usb stick / cdrom then that's the installers linux partition, not the installation target.on sdb i see three partitions, but i oculd not say wwhat they are used by, or will be, based on this output.
[20:30] <Aleric> or anyone else on 18.04
[20:33] <Aleric> nm... it should be a symlink... Something went wrong when I made this backup then :/
[20:34] <arooni> how can i restart gnome shell on ubuntu 18.04 from a different tty
[20:34] <arooni> its all frozen up;
[20:34] <arooni> so run ; sudo killall gnome-shell; ?
[20:35] <laurentino_rapha> hello
[20:47] <Aleric> OMG... I rebooted :(.  EVERYTHING is broken (as usual)
[20:48] <Aleric> For a start... it doesn't start X anymore. I just get the login prompt on a tty.
[20:48] <Aleric> Why is that?
[20:48] <arooni> when gnome-shell freezes up on ubuntu 18.04; i can get to a different terminal; but when i run killall gnome-shell it doesnt seem to fix it;  do i need to do something like sudo service gdm restart ?
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[20:56] <ash_worksi> so, I can use apt-get, but not perl -MCPAN -m 'install ...' ... how do I determine what I need to do to give perl access to the outside world?
[20:56] <ash_worksi> I know that's an ambiguous question, but if someone can just help shove me in the right direction... not sure what i need to google exactly
[20:58] <Aleric> Why oh why is nothing working anymore :(.
[20:59] <Aleric> My desktop is 100% changed, everything is gone... no panels, no icons... different background.
[20:59] <Aleric> The applications that I normally start automatically.... gone. Nothing is started automatically anymore.
[20:59] <Aleric> It's like all configuration that I ever did has been erased.
[21:00] <ash_worksi> Aleric: what was the last thing you did?
[21:01] <Aleric> Reboot after upgrading to 18.04
[21:01] <Aleric> It didn't even start X. I had to manually run startx !
[21:02]  * ash_worksi hopes Aleric backed up his data
[21:02] <Aleric> It is ALWAYS this way when I upgrade ubuntu.... It seems that the maintainers think that everyone wants to start from scratch with configuring their desktop :(
[21:02] <ash_worksi> maybe the journal can help you out
[21:03] <ash_worksi> there are usually options to do scratch/non-scratch installs
[21:03] <ash_worksi> how did you upgrade?
[21:04] <Aleric> By clicking 'upgrade' in 'Discover' or what is the name.
[21:04] <Aleric> The normal way to upgrade.
[21:06] <Aleric> How am I supposed to add a panel? There isn't even a way to do that :/
[21:06] <ash_worksi> I'm probably not the person to help you, as I don't even know what a 'panel
[21:06] <Aleric> A task bar
[21:07] <Aleric> I want to start a browser, but I have nothing I can click on.
[21:07] <ash_worksi> ' is in this context, but ftr, did you make any customizations when going through the upgrade prompts?
[21:07] <Aleric> I started the irc client from a konsole that I started from alt-f2
[21:07] <Aleric> There were no upgrade prompts
[21:07] <ash_worksi> do you have a custom config that starts a specific DE?
[21:08] <Aleric> not that I know of
[21:08] <Aleric> What should I have installed to get a desktop after boot?
[21:08] <ash_worksi> fwiw, they got rid of unity in 18
[21:08] <Aleric> I don't think I used unity. I used plasma
[21:08] <Aleric> plasma-desktop is already the newest version (4:5.12.6-0ubuntu0.1).
[21:09] <ash_worksi> idk :\
[21:10] <Aleric> Ok... it seems I have no window manager running
[21:10] <Aleric> not sure though
[21:11] <Aleric> I can't minimize windows - I can only close them.
[21:11] <Aleric> but I can move them around.. so I guess I have a window manager
[21:16] <texla> Did you try selecting a DE at login
[21:16] <Aleric> What do you mean at login? I get a tty.
[21:17] <Aleric> A text terminal with the login:  promp. I type my name and password and then I get a bash prompt.
[21:17] <Aleric> I started X with 'startx' probably not the right way?
[21:21] <sillyslux> huh, booting the new minimal install from yesterday, i'm confronted with yellow console fg color
[21:21] <Bashing-om> alexandre9099: what shows ' cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager ' . assumming you use the X11 environment and not wayland .
[21:22] <alexandre9099> Bashing-om, why u tagged me?
[21:24] <Bashing-om> alexandre9099: sorry,, Not paying attention to my tab complete :( Aleric has left .
[21:24] <alexandre9099> no problem :)
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[21:34] <Valen> evening all, I'm having a bit of a problem with some samsung 970's and discard. I'm wondering what to do next. In short its a 4 disk mdraid 10 with 2 partitions md0 ~100Gb for / and the rest md1 for VM hosts. Whenever fstrim is run the whole system becomes unresponisive to anything needing disk access and needs a power cycle to recover.
[21:35] <Valen> I have manually run blkdiscard on a single block of the array and it worked without issue
[21:36] <Valen> however the fstrim service has caused the host to hang (even after it was disabled, it is now masked)
[21:36] <Valen> The last logs I got were like this  Jul 30 00:00:42 systemd[1]: Starting Discard unused blocks... ; Jul 30 00:01:13 kernel: [539247.001284] nvme nvme0: I/O 5 QID 30 timeout, aborting ; Jul 30 00:01:14 kernel: [539247.481267] nvme nvme3: I/O 0 QID 30 timeout, aborting
[21:36] <ash_worksi> can anyone help me learn my ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to installing something with perl?
[21:37] <Valen> At the moment it's basically empty so it's going to be trimming ~1Tb of data per ssd, these are 970 pro's
[21:41] <Aleric> Great just great.... I somehow got plasma started, and most of my desktop returned.
[21:42] <Aleric> Then I clicked on something (the panel)... and everything went black.
[21:42] <Aleric> That is, the open windows are still there - but anything plasma is black. Black background, and no taskbar / panels etc.
[21:43] <mar77i> hmm. no coredumpctl on ubuntu? where do my coredumps go?
[21:45] <Valen> just tried fstrim on / and that worked. So it's only fstrim of the large array that's causing a timeout
[21:47] <Valen> Oh the same issue happened when removing a large (~2Tb) LVM volume
[21:47] <Valen> or when creating the filesystem unless the flag was given to skip discard
[21:48] <AlexMax> Ugh, Ubuntu's Zoom functionality for universal access looks incredibly broken
[21:50] <AlexMax> https://imgur.com/rEqlQtq
[21:50] <AlexMax> This is what happens when I'm zoomed in
[21:50] <AlexMax> Also, the top menu is half height and any menu that pops out pops under other windows
[21:51] <Aleric> Apparently 'plasmashell' had crashed.
[22:07] <russ__> did something replace MOTU?
[22:08] <pragmaticenigma> russ__: what MOTU
[22:08] <pragmaticenigma> russ__: What *is* MOTU
[22:08] <sillyslux> MOTD?
[22:08] <russ__> masters of the universe
[22:09] <russ__> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[22:10] <pragmaticenigma> russ__: You might want to ask in their channel? #ubuntu-motu
[22:11] <russ__> the channel doesn't appear to exist anymore or i can't join it.
[22:12] <pragmaticenigma> russ__: Due to high volumes of spam on freenode, many channels require you to register your nick (screenname) to join their channels.
[22:12] <pragmaticenigma> !nick | russ__
[22:12] <pragmaticenigma> !register | russ__
[22:13] <russ__> good man thanks. a long time away from irc lol
[22:27] <sillyslux_> does ubuntu still use plymouth-theme stuff by default?
[22:31] <bobphalanx> I have a question. My Ubuntu 18.04 desktop keeps sending connectivity checks to a Google IP. Is there a way to turn this off? Is this something related to the liveupdate feature?
[22:32] <bobphalanx> Okay, that's two questions, but anyway :)
[22:34] <bobphalanx> It sends a connectivity check to a Google IP every 5 minutes or so and I'd like to turn it off.
[22:35] <rud0lf> iptables it out
[22:35] <rud0lf> :)
[22:35] <bobphalanx> In more detail it's sending a HTTP req to connectivity-check.ubuntu.com which apparently is a Google hosted server.
[22:36] <pragmaticenigma> bobphalanx: It's probably a setting within Network Manager
[22:36] <bobphalanx> rud0lf: yeah I can filter it out, but I'd like to see if there's a menu option
[22:37] <bobphalanx> Ah found it, under Privacy > Connectivity Checking
[22:38] <bobphalanx> Now call me a tinfoil hatter if you want but I think Big G knows enough of my connection status without this :D
[22:39] <rud0lf> also uncheck "disable google webcam access"
[22:39] <rud0lf> ;)
[22:39] <bobphalanx> :P
[22:40] <ironpillow> hi all, I am trying to install netperf via: https://github.com/HewlettPackard/netperf/archive/netperf-2.7.0.tar.gz. When I do make I am getting an error: collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status. full error message: https://pastebin.com/XbvsXCJf. Any advice? thanks!
[22:40] <bobphalanx> Not saying it's meant for a bad purpose, but as a side product it's a handy way for a computer to keep reporting to Google and giving out my VPN / proxy IP address so G can recognize me when surfing (via ga.js / gtag.js / etc)
[22:42] <Tobbi> Who do I contact if I wanted to get supertux updated in ubuntu 16.04?
[22:42] <jeunez> test
[22:42] <jeunez> anyone here
[22:42] <Tobbi> yes
[22:43] <jeunez> i asked a question on askUbuntu
[22:43] <jeunez> would you want to take a look?
[22:43] <jeunez> droppng it here might anyone be able to help out https://askubuntu.com/questions/1063989/windows-10-stuck-on-repair-loop-on-dualboot-with-ubuntu-18
[22:44] <Tobbi> I am not usually involved with ubuntu.
[22:44] <Tobbi> I just asked a question.
[22:45] <oerheks> !sru
[22:45] <oerheks> Tobbi, if you think a newer stable version is available, file a SRU to the team
[22:45] <Tobbi> Thanks.
[22:46] <Tobbi> Well, I know a newer stable is available :D
[22:46] <Tobbi> Because I'm part of the development team :D
[22:46] <oerheks> excellent :-)
[22:48] <Tobbi> This looks awfully complicated, though.
[22:51] <pragmaticenigma> ironpillow: This channel is dedicated to supporting Ubuntu and the software that is distributed through official Ubuntu channels. This channel doesn't have the resources available to assist with 3rd party software such as the one you are asking about. Your best option is to contact the developer(s) of the software for assistance.
[22:51] <ironpillow> pragmaticenigma: got it. thanks :)
[22:53] <pragmaticenigma> bobphalanx: The connectivity check is used by Ubuntu to update the notification icon in the notication area, as well as a flag used by other applications to see what type of connection the computer has available. It makes it easier to support, than having a user go through several steps to verify internet connectivity on their own.
[22:56] <philosopher221> Why is Freenode infested with Western Neo-Lysenkoism (i.e., promulgation of racial equality dogma, censorship of any research which opposes a purely-environmental basis for IQ differences, etc.)?
[22:57] <bobphalanx> pragmaticenigma: Yeah I have no doubts about the usability and purpose of it
[23:02] <hggdh> philosopher221: this is not a general chat channel. Please go to -- say -- ##philosophy, or ##chat.
[23:03] <philosopher221> hggdh: But I'm banned from all that fora due to their censorship of anti-Neo-Lysenkoism.
[23:03] <hggdh> philosopher221: still, not here. Consider this a warning.
[23:04] <philosopher221> hggdh: Ok.  I do get klined daily by these cretins for attempting to cite papers.
[23:06] <d9b4bef917> kaniini has invited you to join #litepub
[23:56] <aloo_shu> fail
[23:57] <aloo_shu> oh, sry
[23:57] <aloo_shu> forget
[23:57] <otherRick> Hi, I need active some gpios in order to turn on some regulators in the board. Added the fixed-regulator sections to the device tree which has associated the gpio but during the bootloading the gpios are inactive