[01:17] <fo0bar> slangasek: could you update the cdimage trigger-mirrors please?  arzachel.canonical.com and neison.canonical.com are replacing goldenapple and zaniah
[01:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: julia [arm64] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [0.7.0-1] (no packageset)
[01:39] <mwhudson> fo0bar: he's not around today and in any case is past EOD, maybe try a less transient means of notification? :)
[01:43] <fo0bar> mwhudson: what, you mean not everyone works 10-7 US-W? :)  it's not urgent (not in DNS yet) and AFAICT it's part of a secrets repo he updates so there doesn't appear to be an upstream.  I'll just send an email
[01:43] <mwhudson> fo0bar: our team is not really known for it's predictable hours...
[01:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: julia [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [0.7.0-1] (no packageset)
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[03:26] <slangasek> fo0bar, mwhudson: done ;)
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[04:13] <fo0bar> slangasek: ta!
[04:15] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Could I get some Binary NEW poking on calamares-settings-ubuntu and qtstyleplugins-src when you get the chance?
[08:21] <cjwatson> infinity: FYI, I'm removing artful from ddebs.u.c.  It's a bit early, but germanium is running a little low on space, and all those ddebs should be in the LP librarian if need be.
[08:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: xorg-server (xenial-proposed/main) [2:1.18.4-0ubuntu0.7 => 2:1.18.4-0ubuntu0.8] (desktop-core, xorg)
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[08:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected xorg-server [source] (xenial-proposed) [2:1.18.4-0ubuntu0.8]
[08:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted xorg-server [source] (xenial-proposed) [2:1.18.4-0ubuntu0.8]
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[13:02] <coreycb> hello, can an archive admin please accept python-thriftpy from the New queue? I've added the py2 binary python-thriftpy package back since python-happybase still needs it (needed by panko). this will help unblock these packages for OpenStack.
[13:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-thriftpy [i386] (cosmic-proposed) [0.3.9+ds1-1ubuntu2]
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[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: networking-bagpipe [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [9.0.0~b3-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-thriftpy [arm64] (cosmic-proposed) [0.3.9+ds1-1ubuntu2]
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: python-blazarclient (cosmic-proposed/primary) [2.0.0-0ubuntu1]
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[13:06] <apw> coreycb, ^
[13:08] <coreycb> Thanks apw
[13:50] <acheronuk> ppc64el failure on timeout https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ghostscript/9.23~dfsg+1-0ubuntu1
[13:50] <acheronuk> could someone retry that if it could maybe succeed on a retry?
[13:58] <acheronuk> LocutusOfBorg: could you? ^^^
[13:58] <acheronuk> in main, so needs core dev
[14:02] <acheronuk> at the moment that leaves okular unbuildable in proposed, and I would guess a fair amount of other things as well
[14:08] <ginggs> acheronuk: retried
[14:08] <acheronuk> ginggs: thanks. worth a try ;)
[14:09] <ginggs> acheronuk: if that doesn't work, you could try rebuilding with -O2 in your PPA, or maybe just try that anyway
[14:10] <acheronuk> ginggs: uploader has asked in #ubuntu-devel in the meantime
[14:11] <slangasek> ginggs: tkamppeter was just asking for help with this in #ubuntu-devel; maybe coordinate with him?
[14:12] <slangasek> yah what acheronuk said
[15:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected maas [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.3.3-6498-ge4db91d-0ubuntu1~16.04.1]
[15:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted maas [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.3.4-6508-g4f77e30-0ubuntu1]
[16:17] <bdmurray> sil2100: Can you remove maxima from xenial-proposed since it FTBFS on some arches?
[16:25] <sil2100> bdmurray: sure
[16:27] <sil2100> bdmurray: done
[16:27]  * sil2100 is cleaning up -proposed uploads now
[16:28] <bdmurray> sil2100: thanks
[16:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted fonts-gnutypewriter [amd64] (cosmic-proposed) [1.0-1]
[16:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-araddon-gou [amd64] (cosmic-proposed) [0.0~git20180509.7db4be5-1]
[16:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted glasstty [amd64] (cosmic-proposed) [0-1]
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[16:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libzc [arm64] (cosmic-proposed) [0.4.1-1]
[16:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libzc [i386] (cosmic-proposed) [0.4.1-1]
[16:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libzc [s390x] (cosmic-proposed) [0.4.1-1]
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[16:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: fwupd-signed (cosmic-proposed/primary) [1.0]
[16:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gutenprint [ppc64el] (cosmic-proposed) [5.3.0~pre1-3]
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[16:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: sl-modem [i386] (cosmic-proposed/multiverse) [2.9.11~20110321-13] (no packageset)
[16:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libzc [armhf] (cosmic-proposed) [0.4.1-1]
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[17:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: 2ping (bionic-proposed/universe) [4.1-1 => 4.1-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
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[17:39] <infinity> cjwatson: How is that "early"?  It's been EOL for a while.
[17:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: slepc [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [3.9.2+dfsg1-1build1] (no packageset)
[17:45] <fo0bar> ^ could I get that 2ping bionic-proposed/universe upload approved?  re: LP: #1786397
[17:45] <fo0bar> (not sure if that gets looked at in someone's queue eventually; sorry if so.  last time I did an SRU was years ago)
[17:47] <slangasek> fo0bar: yeah, it's in a queue for eventual processing
[17:49] <fo0bar> slangasek: ta, no rush.  the SRU docs have a gap between upload and verification (implies it's instant) and I didn't want to jump the gun and set verification-needed before it was actually in -proposed
[17:55] <fo0bar> (or I just read it wrong.  "After upload, the bug status should be changed to In Progress, once accepted into release-proposed, the status will be automatically changed to Fix Committed.")
[17:59] <infinity> fo0bar: Yeah, the Fix Committed and v-needed bits are set by us when we accept.
[17:59] <fo0bar> infinity: cut me some slack, it's my first day!
[17:59] <fo0bar> :)
[18:00] <infinity> *raise brow*
[18:00] <infinity> I call shenanigans.
[18:01] <fo0bar> infinity: on an unrelated note, thanks for cleaning up cdimage.  however I'm still going to kill the 1TB servers with fire, and replacements are about to go live today
[18:02] <fo0bar> they have 8TB, which is more than even nusakan.  *should* last awhile, heh
[18:02] <infinity> fo0bar: Oh, shiny.
[18:02] <infinity> fo0bar: Can nusakan also get some extra terabyteses?
[18:03] <infinity> fo0bar: Aren't we, like, the last users of the miserable dying SAN?
[18:05] <fo0bar> infinity: there's a PO in progress to replace the SAN with a cloudless ceph cluster.  however, it's been in progress for awhile, and I fear to ask what the status is.  but I will when my manager gets back from vacation
[18:06] <fo0bar> the only reason the cdimage servers are getting replaced in a reasonable timeframe was the temporary SPOF on hutton kicked us into reallocating two machines from another project, which is why they're slightly overspecced
[18:07] <infinity> fo0bar: I assumed we'd do something similar to nusakan that got done to pepo.
[18:07] <infinity> fo0bar: Given how we grind bits on that machine, remote storage doesn't really make sense.
[18:07] <infinity> (IMO)
[18:08] <infinity> Or, we could split it to a mix of local and remote for working sets versus half-archived stuff.  But that would also take jiggerying some of how we do stuff, path-wise.
[18:08] <fo0bar> that's a good point.  but FAOD there's still enough at-rest junk on the SAN that I believe the reacement will still go through
[18:08] <fo0bar> *replacement
[18:09] <fo0bar> come to think of it, I think I originally built pepo too
[18:09] <fo0bar> I get all the best projects
[18:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: slepc [arm64] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [3.9.2+dfsg1-1build1] (no packageset)
[18:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: manila-ui [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [2.16.0-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[18:26] <acheronuk> slangasek: would it be possible/acceptable to get ghostscript out of proposed until we know the build is fixed? if not I can probably work around it, but would be better not to have uninstalable build depends for some things due to that failure
[18:32] <tsimonq2> infinity, slangasek: Are Xenial dailies still supposed to be a thing after 16.04.5? They're still enabled in /etc/crontab of lp:ubuntu-cdimage and still being built.
[18:33] <infinity> tsimonq2: They're not supposed to be a thing.  Did someone re-enable them?
[18:33] <tsimonq2> infinity: Apparently, it seems.
[18:33] <infinity> So they did.
[18:34] <infinity> tsimonq2: To be fair, lp:ubuntu-cdimage doesn't relate here.
[18:34] <infinity> But someone did re-enable them on the live crontab too.
[18:34]  * infinity twiddles them back off.
[18:34] <sarnold> why wouldn't we keep generating dailies?
[18:34] <tsimonq2> infinity: You might as well go through and rm -rf xenial directories in the flavors as well.
[18:34] <infinity> sarnold: There are no more point releases after .5
[18:34] <tsimonq2> sarnold: Because Xenial has had its final point release.
[18:35] <tsimonq2> Right.
[18:35] <infinity> tsimonq2: At some point, yes.
[18:35] <tsimonq2> infinity: Well, is there any reason to keep wasting the disk space? :P
[18:35] <sarnold> I thought we made the dailies to keep sucking in security updates and srus?
[18:35] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[18:35] <tsimonq2> sarnold: Only up to .5.
[18:35] <tsimonq2> Otherwise users get those through normal system updates.
[18:35] <infinity> sarnold: Maybe you're confusing ISOs and cloud images?
[18:36] <infinity> sarnold: No one other than testers should ever actually use daily ISOs.
[18:36] <sarnold> infinity: yes. yes I am. thanks :)
[18:36] <infinity> sarnold: They have proposed enabled, they're half broken, etc.
[18:36] <sarnold> wow
[18:36] <tsimonq2> infinity: lp:ubuntu-cdimage isn't accurate> That hasn't seen an update since Lubuntu Next was dropped. :P
[18:36] <sarnold> that's definitely not what I expected, hehe
[18:36] <sarnold> thanks
[18:36] <tsimonq2> I'm curious, is -proposed just enabled on build time for those, or in the actually-installed system?
[18:37] <infinity> tsimonq2: It's not so much that it's "not accurate", it's that there's no point in committing temp tweaks to the live crontab and uncommitting them again, with contrab imports and exports in between.
[18:37] <tsimonq2> infinity: Got it.
[18:37] <infinity> tsimonq2: Build-time and installed.
[18:38] <tsimonq2> infinity: Oh, fun.
[19:09] <slangasek> acheronuk: wasn't tkamppeter working on getting ghostscript fixed?  If that's taking too long, I can remove the current broken package from -proposed, yes
[19:11] <acheronuk> slangasek: yes, sorry, I wasn't asking for immediate removal
[19:12] <acheronuk> though I don't think -O2 worked :/ https://launchpad.net/~till-kamppeter/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/15253371
[19:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected fwupd [amd64] (cosmic-proposed) [1.1.0-2]
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[19:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected fwupd [i386] (cosmic-proposed) [1.1.0-6]
[19:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected fwupd [i386] (cosmic-proposed) [1.1.0-4]
[19:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected fwupdate [amd64] (cosmic-proposed) [12-2]
[19:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected fwupdate [i386] (cosmic-proposed) [12-2]
[19:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected fwupdate [arm64] (cosmic-proposed) [12-2]
[19:34] <slangasek> acheronuk: and I just did a test build on a ppc64el machine and got no hang
[19:36] <acheronuk> slangasek: great, but the builders don't seem to be so accommodating. any clue why?
[19:37] <slangasek> yeah, not great at all ;)
[19:43] <slangasek> acheronuk: ok, apparently after making sure the chroot is completely up to date with -proposed, I can reproduce *a* hang, though not at the same point seen on the buildds
[19:45] <slangasek> and not a hang so much as 100% CPU usage by a compiler
[20:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: networking-bagpipe [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [9.0.0~rc1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[20:06] <cjwatson> infinity: early> Just 'cos it's not on old-releases yet
[20:31] <slangasek> acheronuk, tkamppeter: building with -O2 works around the problem fine, but passing DEB_CFLAGS_MAINT_APPEND fails to get picked up by the build system (and it's cdbs, so I'm not enthusiastic about digging into it)
[21:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: cinder [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/main) [2:13.0.0~rc1-0ubuntu1] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[21:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: zvmcloudconnector (cosmic-proposed/primary) [1.2.3-0ubuntu1]
[21:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-shell-extension-system-monitor (bionic-proposed/universe) [35-1 => 35-1ubuntu1~jdstrand1] (no packageset)
[21:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: slepc [i386] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [3.9.2+dfsg1-1build1] (no packageset)
[21:54] <acheronuk> slangasek: ummm. pass on that as well
[22:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted 2ping [source] (bionic-proposed) [4.1-1ubuntu1]
[22:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted fwts [source] (bionic-proposed) [18.03.00-0ubuntu3]
[22:26] <ehashman> slangasek: saw the updates on the node bug, I will attempt to test for you tonight or tomorrow :)
[22:26] <ehashman> and thanks!
[22:27] <slangasek> ehashman: no problem, sorry it took so long (would've done it a couple days sooner but was out sick)
[22:27] <ehashman> it's alright, hope you feel better now
[22:27] <ehashman> I was less worried about a delay and more worried about the initial wontfix
[22:28] <ehashman> there is some discussion om the upstream bug... archlinux finally has committed to fixing this in their lts node as well
[22:28] <ehashman> so just Debian left (I dunno if there's anything I can do to speed up getting node 10 in unstable...)
[22:31] <slangasek> rbasak's comments still apply wrt the incomplete expression of the current ABI string
[22:33] <rbasak> I'm concerned that this isn't fixed properly in our development release. It'll almost certainly "regress" sooner or later (ie. a future Ubuntu release will contain a nodejs with a similar ABI incompatibility).
[22:33] <rbasak> I hope upstream fix this properly, but I suspect they won't.
[22:35] <ehashman> rbasak: I'm trying to coaxthem into better ABI management practices but..
[22:36] <rbasak> ehashman: I appreciate your efforts
[22:36] <ehashman> are there any resoirces I can point them at?
[22:36] <ehashman> I'm suggesting they don't vendor and export all these external lib symbols
[22:36] <rbasak> What sort of thing do you have in mind?
[22:36] <ehashman> they also don't version their own symbols
[22:36] <ehashman> they just claim they will maintain ABI compat for a major release
[22:37] <ehashman> the Python approach for SSL involves actual cryptographic engineers maintaining the SSL wrapper lib that is versioned and natively built against a policy
[22:37] <ehashman> where the policy env is an ancient minimal centos image
[22:37] <rbasak> The problem starts because they bundle their dependencies
[22:38] <rbasak> And distributions must unbundle to be able to maintain their own release stability/security promises.
[22:38] <ehashman> some of them are hard to get around
[22:38] <ehashman> their libv8 is so heavily patched...
[22:38] <ehashman> but openssl is sort of silly
[22:38] <ehashman> I don't think incompat has come up with the other deps
[22:39] <rbasak> If their downstreams unbundle (as they do for at least some of these), then they can't rely on dependency stability for ABI
[22:39] <rbasak> Since the downstreams may choose not to ship the version they're depending on
[22:39] <ehashman> even if they don't unbundle ulstream they can at least stop exporting the symbols for comlatibility
[22:39] <rbasak> Making it impossible for their downstreams to build for that ABI
[22:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted evolution-data-server [source] (bionic-proposed) [3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1]
[22:40] <ehashman> like for natively compiled Python extensions we don't even assume compatibility with the system Python headers
[22:40] <rbasak> The best thing to point them to would be Python then I guess?
[22:41] <ehashman> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0513/#libpythonx-y-so-1
[22:41] <ehashman> yeah I am trying to nudge them in that direction
[22:41] <ehashman> (I'm one of the manylinux maintainers)
[22:43] <ehashman> one of the node release managers has told me he's been interested in this for a long time, it's a known problem
[22:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-phabricator [source] (bionic-proposed) [0.7.0-1ubuntu0.1]
[22:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: designate [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/main) [1:7.0.0~rc1-0ubuntu1] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[23:48] <tsimonq2> Oh, nice. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=905868