[00:15] <Austin___> I have 'nc -l PORT' running on a host, as well as tcpdump filtering on PORT. If 'nmap -p PORT HOST' shows the PORT as open if run from another internal host, but not if run from a non-local IP, what could cause that?
[00:15] <Austin___> tcpdump shows the packet reach the host in both cases, but is only responded to when the source is an external IP
[00:16] <Austin___> seems like im missing something
[00:16] <Austin___> sorry, only responded to if the src is an internal IP
[00:23] <otherRick> SENDPASS richardbastos@gmail.com
[00:24] <uptime> otherRick: that command takes a nick, not an email btw + you need the '/msg nickserv' at the start
[00:26] <otherRick> thanks
[00:26] <pragmaticenigma> Austin___: can you define what is an external IP and what you define as an internal IP?
[00:27] <Austin___> internal is a machine on the same subnet. external is any that has been through NAT
[00:27] <Austin___> pragmaticenigma: ^
[00:27] <Austin___> one example would be cayouseeme.org
[00:28] <Austin___> canyouseeme.org*
[00:28] <Austin___> for external
[00:46] <IntelCore> hi. I downloaded an apptall it.. or work.let.. rather, apt did. And, it does not ins
[00:47] <IntelCore> ugh, let me try again.  I got an applet with apt, it does not install it
[00:48] <guiverc> IntelCore, it may help if you provide your version of Ubuntu, and the actual error message  (if it's multiple lines, please pastebinit)
[00:49] <oerheks> or state what applet for what..
[00:50] <IntelCore> 18.04 recent upgrade from 16.04.5 - with flashback compiz. (Indicator-applet-complete) by tedg
[00:50] <pragmaticenigma> Austin___: That sounds like the NAT is not configured to allow traffic on that port
[00:50] <IntelCore> i have "Applications, Places" top left bar
[00:51] <IntelCore> The applet runs right top bar...
[00:51] <Austin___> pragmaticenigma: but i can see the packet with tcpdump on the internal host
[00:51] <Austin___> it just doesnt get responded to
[00:51] <Austin___> it has gone through NAT as expected
[00:51] <IntelCore> do i need to sudo apt install again?
[00:54] <leftyfb> IntelCore: what?
[00:56] <oerheks> !info indicator-applet-complete
[01:04] <slizard> Hi people! Quick question: I've an XPS 13 9370 and for my Atheros woes (occasional 2-4 Wh battery drain) Dell support recommended installing the linux-firmware_1.169.3_all.deb from launchpad which AFAICT is the artful package. I run 4.15.0-30-generic kernel, is this a sensible thing to do?
[01:07] <oerheks> bionic gives 1.173 https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-firmware
[01:07] <IntelCore> leftyfb.. I dont know how to be more plain, or specific.
[01:08] <leftyfb> slizard: it's your call, but I actually backported linux-firmware 1.173.1 from bionic to xenial. Feel free to use it from my ppa https://launchpad.net/~leftyfb/+archive/ubuntu/linux-firmware
[01:08] <leftyfb> IntelCore: try, because you aren't at all.
[01:08] <pragmaticenigma> Austin___: I'm really not understanding what you're explaining.
[01:09] <IntelCore> I got that pkg oerheks
[01:09] <IntelCore> downloaded from launchpad
[01:09] <Austin___> nvm
[01:10] <slizard> leftyfb: Thanks. What's the worst thing that can happen? I see that both Artful and bionic use 4.15, so should the firmware packages from their repos be compatible?
[01:10] <leftyfb> slizard: the kernel and linux-firmware package aren't really related
[01:10] <IntelCore> oerherks.. but apt-get-install indicator-applet-complete did something, but the applet did not show on desk bar at top
[01:11] <slizard> leftyfb: OK. So how can I know if a linux-firmware package is (in general) compatible with my OK?
[01:11] <pragmaticenigma> Austin___: If you are attempting to reach a port on a machine, on your local network, from a machine/site outside your home network (the Internet), you have to tell the NAT device (router/modem/firewall) to allow traffic from the Internet/external network through to your hosting machine on the local network, on that port
[01:11] <oerheks> IntelCore, sounds like it is not suitable for fallback, just gnome
[01:11] <pragmaticenigma> Austin___: It's usually referred to as port forwarding on a SOHO type router or modem
[01:11] <IntelCore> was on top in 16
[01:11] <Austin___> pragmaticenigma: understood. that is confirmed working
[01:11] <leftyfb> slizard: you'll be fine. I have it installed on Xenial with the same kernel
[01:12] <Austin___> i've proven that the traffic is passing through NAT by watching it arrive at the internal machine
[01:12] <Austin___> using tcpdump
[01:13] <IntelCore> oerheks - this applet was on the bar.. but the system settings menu item in it pointed to.. 'about' instead of settings.
[01:13] <pragmaticenigma> Austin___: The reason for the confusion is network topology can very greatly from one network to the next, be it enterprise, small office, residential
[01:13] <slizard> leftyfb: OK, thanks. I'll give it a try.
[01:13] <leftyfb> IntelCore: applets usually need to be run as an application/binary or added to the top bar manually
[01:13] <IntelCore> oerheks - so, I have the updated file. And sudo apt-get the file.
[01:13] <Austin___> nothing crazy going on here. just a WAN and a LAN as far as this is concerned
[01:13] <Austin___> pragmaticenigma: ^
[01:13] <oerheks> IntelCore, 16.04 gave gnome-flashback, IIRC
[01:14] <IntelCore> si senior
[01:14] <ALowther> When I run 'systemctl status' and scroll down and read through the processes. For instance '1623 /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gsd-xsettings', is that just showing the PID and the location of the executable? Also, something like '1601 ibus-daemon --xim --panel disable' is that showing options that the executable is running with?
[01:14] <leftyfb> IntelCore: this is an English-only speaking channel
[01:14] <oerheks> IntelCore, so totally different from compiz.
[01:14] <oerheks> if you switch to gnome session, it will work
[01:14] <IntelCore> can bionic give gnome-flashback? it's not on my de list
[01:15] <leftyfb> !info gnome-flashback
[01:16] <pragmaticenigma> Austin___: If it is still not working, I would encourage you to head over to ##networking. Someone there may better understand your setup and how you help you achieve your desired outcome
[01:16] <Austin___> ta. i'm in there simultaneously ;)
[01:16] <IntelCore> hmm, i had it before upgrade
[01:16] <leftyfb> IntelCore: applets usually need to be run as an application/binary or added to the top bar manually. It was probably not reinstalled/added. Do it again
[01:19] <IntelCore> yes. Or cas it is old gnome alike flashback, the indicator is noe not work with the de
[01:19] <IntelCore> ty guys
[01:19] <leftyfb> IntelCore: this is an English-only speaking channel
[01:21] <pragmaticenigma> ALowther: Yes, the output is displaying the parameters used to launch the service/daemon. Note that not all executables there can run standalone, and doing so may cause system instability. Those execuatbles are setup with hooks that allow systemd to manage those processes
[01:23] <ALowther> pragmaticenigma: Cool! and so my entire OS experience is literally just on top of a bunch of default(daemon) programs that run on bootup/login?
[01:24] <pragmaticenigma> to some degree, yes ALowther
[01:25] <IntelCore> where can i post the png photo so u can see ? pls..
[01:25] <pragmaticenigma> imgr is a common place used IntelCore
[01:25] <IntelCore> ty
[01:25] <pragmaticenigma> !paste
[01:25] <ALowther> pragmaticenigma: But to some degree, no. :)
[01:26] <IntelCore> oerheks -- https://imgur.com/a/aB9iyZT
[01:27] <leftyfb> IntelCore: applets usually need to be run as an application/binary or added to the top bar manually. It was probably not reinstalled/added. Do it again
[01:28] <IntelCore> yes did again
[01:29] <IntelCore> it said what is in the photo in gedit
[01:29] <leftyfb> IntelCore: you manually added the applet to the top bar again?
[01:29] <IntelCore> sudo apt-get install indicator-applet-complete
[01:29] <leftyfb> IntelCore: applets usually need to be run as an application/binary or added to the top bar manually. It was probably not reinstalled/added. Do it again
[01:30] <IntelCore> yes i have the tar of the applet
[01:30] <leftyfb> nobody said anything about a tar of an applet
[01:31] <leftyfb> IntelCore: ADD the applet to your top bar
[01:31] <IntelCore> the tar for it is on launchpad. it is also in repository
[01:31] <IntelCore> hmm. trying
[01:32] <leftyfb> IntelCore: stop with the tar. DO NOT do anything with the tarball. You already have the package installed. Now add the applet to your panel
[01:33] <leftyfb> IntelCore: I googled it for you: https://askubuntu.com/a/72764    scroll down to "To add to the panel:"    IGNORE everything above "To add to the panel:"
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[01:38] <moses> is there anything out there better than lightdm?
[01:38] <moses> and i cant use gdm3 because it causes my computer to hang
[01:38] <moses> after login
[01:39] <leftyfb> moses: What version of ubuntu?
[01:39] <moses> its actually kali
[01:39] <moses> but its all debian
[01:40] <leftyfb> !kali | moses
[01:40] <hays> logger has started outputing <13> to stdout with a time stamp. anyway to suppress that?
[01:41] <leftyfb> moses: stop asking for help in here. You're not running Ubuntu.
[01:43] <moses> \j #debian
[01:43] <leftyfb> moses: try /join #kali-linux
[01:44] <moses> leftyfb: ive been trying, quite dead, but ty
[01:44] <leftyfb> moses: then try their website for support
[01:44] <hays> I find it kinda funny to customize kali
[01:44] <hays> just use it
[01:44] <hays> who cares what wm, etc.. its not meant for general computing
[01:45] <leftyfb> moses: I find it kinda funny people are asking for help with kali at all. It's meant for professionals.
[01:46] <hays> just because a person is a professional doesn't mean they know everything
[01:47] <IntelCore> GOT it, YAY ! now if it shows the correct menu items..and the systems settings instead of About.. I'm good.
[01:47] <ash_mobile> Is there a way to setup Ubuntu to act like a dynadock hub?
[01:48] <leftyfb> IntelCore: you're welcome
[01:48] <moses> leftyfb: i am just using kali because it has a lot of code I can study and learn from pre built in
[01:48] <IntelCore> Aye Men, man. ty
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[01:48] <leftyfb> moses: what type of code? I can almost guarantee you anything you're going to learn from running kali you can just as well learn running ubuntu
[01:49] <hays> not sure I agree with that. kali packages security tools quite nicely
[01:49] <moses> leftyfb: no all the applications kali has built in, the python scrips for example are very informative
[01:50] <hays> many of them are not available in most distros without some tweaking
[01:50] <moses> leftyfb: i run ubuntu as well, but i just updated kali and now gdm3 is hanging on startup so i swapped back to lightdm
[01:50] <leftyfb> ash_mobile: from my quick googling, a dynadock hub is a docking station for a pc. That's hardware, not software
[01:51] <leftyfb> moses: sorry to hear that. Feel free to ask for help with ubuntu when you're running ubuntu
[01:57] <Stormmore> am I the only one having issues with cloning git.launchpad.net repos?
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[01:58] <ash_mobile> Like in a dynadock scenario, your laptop is the source computer, and you can connect an external monitor, keyboard, mouse, network and other peripherals. In this case, I'm hoping to use the laptop screen, keyboard and mouse as a way to interact with another machine... I was hoping Ubuntu could be used to negotiate that and act like a hub.
[01:59] <leftyfb> ash_mobile: look at synergy
[01:59] <leftyfb> ash_mobile: minus the monitor. You'll need a monitor for the other machine
[01:59] <leftyfb> or use teamviewer or VNC
[02:00] <Stormmore> leftyfb, that only handles keyboard and mouse. Whaet ash_mobile really needs is something like VNC
[02:00] <Stormmore> lol ;-)
[02:00] <exo_> hullo
[02:01] <leftyfb> exo_: hello. What can we do for you?
[02:01] <Stormmore> trying to clone the mainline-crack repo for the last 2 days and I can't even get over 12KiB/s!!!!
[02:01] <exo_> i was wondering how to connect to other servers, say freenode. but if i say "/join freenode" it wont work
[02:01] <leftyfb> exo_: /join #freenode
[02:02] <Stormmore> exo_, you are on freenode ;-)
[02:02] <exo_> oh heck
[02:02] <exo_> okay then
[02:02] <Stormmore> if you mean channels / rooms, then what leftyfb said
[02:02] <exo_> Is there a way to change my nickname?
[02:02] <leftyfb> exo_: if you mean servers, then also join #freenode. This is ubuntu support. Not IRC support
[02:03] <exo_> oh ok
[02:07] <ash_mobile> I mean, what I could do is, use a dock to connect a regular monitor, keyboard and mouse, and then just plug a machine in to the USB input; but some how I thought this could be accomplished with just a single laptop. I don't really know how the dynadock works, but I don't think that kind of thing is foreign to Ubuntu... Like, isn't that kinda what v4l2 kinda does?
[02:13] <Stormmore> ash_mobile, if you really want to do some cool stuff like that, you have to look at how to configure X server and clients and a number of things like PAM to get it to work
[02:14] <Stormmore> ash_mobile, that is what we basically did when I was at university and I haven't see anything that has made it easier in the last 20 years! VNC and TeamViewer try but still don't get close
[02:17] <ash_mobile> Well, I guess it's not easy to use built in laptop devices as peripherals even if you're not intending to combine it all over USB
[02:18] <IntelCore> isn't IoT what he needs?
[02:19] <IntelCore> can't turn a laptop into a single device tho.
[02:19] <ash_mobile> IntelCore IoT?
[02:19] <IntelCore> there's no hub device to use like that
[02:20] <Stormmore> X actually does a good job it, back when Java web apps required a plugin for browsers, I would remote into multiple systems export a browser window back to the system I was on just to watch election result swing-o-meters
[02:20] <leftyfb> except none of that is possible with Wayland now
[02:21] <Stormmore> WHAT! well that kinda sucks!
[02:21] <ash_mobile> Wayland?
[02:21] <cryptodan> no need for Java Web Applets
[02:22] <Stormmore> cryptodan, sure there is, they are call Android apps now ;-)
[02:23] <IntelCore> snaps?
[02:23] <Stormmore> not even close IntelCore
[02:24] <cryptodan> I dont even bother with Java or Flash installs on Windows
[02:25] <ash_mobile> So, how does a hub achieve this exactly?
[02:25] <leftyfb> it doesn't
[02:25] <ash_mobile> 🤔
[02:26] <cryptodan> ash_mobile: what you want to do?
[02:26] <Stormmore> control another system over usb
[02:26] <ash_mobile> ^
[02:27] <cryptodan> you would need a USB over Serial to come close to that
[02:27] <Stormmore> kinda but not really
[02:27] <cryptodan> like configuring a new Cisco Device
[02:28] <ash_mobile> But seriously, how does dynadock do it?
[02:28] <leftyfb> Stormmore: for what purpose?
[02:28] <ash_mobile> (Although I know displaylink isn't the greatest)
[02:29] <cryptodan> maybe based on Synergy?
[02:29] <ash_mobile> It's not networked
[02:29] <Stormmore> ash_mobile, if I am looking at the right dynadock. not even close, it just extends the ports a system has
[02:30] <Stormmore> ash_mobile, does it have a network card?
[02:30] <ash_mobile> You can plug it into Ethernet, but you don't have to
[02:30] <cryptodan> its a KVM
[02:30] <ash_mobile> But over usb
[02:31] <IntelCore> i tried ethernet to ethernet. lol.
[02:31] <Stormmore> USB isn't really designed for what you want to do
[02:31] <cryptodan> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_over_USB
[02:31] <ash_mobile> But it does it
[02:31] <Stormmore>  oh that is cool cryptodan
[02:31] <IntelCore> uhm, in old days could get null modem
[02:32] <leftyfb> dynadock isn't a kvm at all. It's only a docking station with a couple video chipsets built in
[02:32]  * ash_mobile feels closer
[02:32] <leftyfb> http://a.co/2jSXAxB
[02:32] <IntelCore> commodore had an rs232 port
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[02:33] <leftyfb> it's just a docking station. Nothing about controlling other pc's
[02:33] <IntelCore> right, it wont control or network two pc
[02:33] <Stormmore> IntelCore, I still do that today for switches, but it requires an active Serial to USB adapter these days
[02:34] <ash_mobile> leftyfb depends on what you mean by controlling. You can is it to use an external keyboard
[02:34] <ash_mobile> IntelCore I don't need that
[02:34] <IntelCore> I need a ethernet hub.
[02:35] <leftyfb> IntelCore: nobody needs an ethernet hub
[02:35] <ash_mobile> I mean leftyfb makes "dock" seem trivial... So can Ubuntu emulate a dock?
[02:35] <IntelCore> i wanna learn networking inside out
[02:36] <Stormmore> IntelCore, it is fun :) I did my CCNA a few years back
[02:36] <leftyfb> ash_mobile: no, a dock is basically just a bunch of extension cables and maybe some usb controllers
[02:36] <leftyfb> ash_mobile: I still don't get the point of all this
[02:37] <cricket_> hi, I have glibc 2.23 installed and I need 2.27 for a program. how should i properly install 2.27 without breaking anything?
[02:37] <Stormmore> leftyfb, technical it could but you would have to write the software to do it
[02:37] <leftyfb> Stormmore: you mean hardware emulation software
[02:37] <leftyfb> just buy a dock
[02:38] <Stormmore> you being the global you, and I don't think there is enough use-cases for it.
[02:38] <leftyfb> why use an entire pc to emulate a dock you can get for like $20-$200 depending on features?
[02:38] <leftyfb> I just don't get the use case
[02:39] <ash_mobile> Because that's not compact it portable
[02:39] <IntelCore> home entertainment, a10 security devices
[02:39] <Stormmore> save you having to have 1U KVM in your rack or crash cart at a data center is about the only 2 cases I could just about see that being useful but I can just tap the network at that point
[02:39] <leftyfb> ash_mobile: I'm pretty sure almost every dock on the planet is physically smaller and weighs less than every pc and laptop
[02:39] <cricket_> hi, is anyone able to help me install glibc 2.27?
[02:40] <leftyfb> cricket_: which version of ubuntu and what is the exact package name and why do you need to do this?
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[02:40] <ash_mobile> The monitor, keyboard, mouse are all separate things that you have to plug in... It'd be nice to have that in deck just on my laptop
[02:41] <ash_mobile> On deck*
[02:41] <Stormmore> a simple usb hub solves that
[02:41] <ash_mobile> ?
[02:41] <leftyfb> ash_mobile: that's called a docking station, buy one
[02:42] <leftyfb> ash_mobile: the fact that you're asking about this means you're not capable of writing an entire "docking station emulator" on your own, so it sounds like you just need to buy a docking station
[02:42] <Stormmore> that brings it down 2 cables, but if your hardware is new enough that it has a thunderbolt usb type c connection, then you can truly get a usb hub that take all the peripherals and bring it down to connecting one cable
[02:42] <cricket_> @leftyb I'm using Zorin 12.4 which is a reskin of Ubuntu 16.04 if i remember correct. The program that needs glibc 2.7 is called parsec. it's not in the repositories or in a ppa, but you can find the deb on parsec.tv
[02:42] <leftyfb> !zorin | cricket_
[02:43] <leftyfb> !kali | cricket_
[02:43] <asphyxia> hi guys, has anyone ever heard of sunsecurity policy tools software? I installed GanttProject the other day and now this java app has been installed on my computer. I don't know where else to ask for a quick answer..
[02:43] <leftyfb> cricket_: we do not support Zorin here. Please seek support for Zorin from Zorin support channels (IRC or otherwise)
[02:43] <cricket_> okay thanks
[02:44] <Stormmore> ash_mobile, in short every solution involves a dock of some nature
[02:44] <IntelCore> freedesktop.org has a wiki about dynadock
[02:44] <leftyfb> asphyxia: contact he GantProject for support
[02:44] <asphyxia> well I don't know if that's when it was installed
[02:44] <asphyxia> is there a way I can check package installation dates?
[02:44] <leftyfb> asphyxia: Ubuntu does not install any java apps by default
[02:44] <ash_mobile> Stormmore I don't understand the hub part, and even a traditional dock didn't let me use my laptop as the peripherals
[02:45] <ash_mobile> Doesn't*
[02:45] <Stormmore> no you still have to use traditional peripherals. what you are wanting exactly doesn't exist
[02:46] <ash_mobile> Poop. Honestly, I had my hopes up seeing how configurable x is
[02:46] <Stormmore> and unless you want to write the code yourself, I highly doubt it will ever exists since usb hubs and docks are cheap and easy to use
[02:47] <Stormmore> ash_mobile, all that said, if you were to tie the Ethernet over USB and X configurations together you could get pretty damn close. But that is very experimental and edge of what is possible type stuff
[02:50]  * Stormmore loves living at the edge sometimes
[02:54] <IntelCore> boot a vm with windows and dynadock will let one display ubuntu and other displrun the vmwith dual monitors.. ay
[02:55] <IntelCore> but it wont go to networking
[02:55] <ash_mobile> Well, such an endeavor is far beyond me. The idea was to be able to just plug a single cable from my laptop into any one of several servers running in a cabinet and just use it as a kvm. I know they make rack consoles, kvms and network solutions, but sorta different for use cases where you actually have to go in. Just wanted to know how out there the idea was.
[02:57] <doyouhas> howdy fellow humans
[02:57] <doyouhas> anyone awake
[02:57] <ash_mobile> Yus
[02:58] <doyouhas> not sure if anyone here has had experience with rdp on linux
[02:58] <doyouhas> trying to setup apache guacamole to rdp into a linux host
[02:58] <doyouhas> and i can successfully rdp into said host from the guacamole machine, but the web client seems to be unable to connect
[02:59] <doyouhas> strange
[03:01] <IntelCore> 80 port
[03:04] <IntelCore> to ubuntu from windows
[03:05] <IntelCore> xrdp opensource tool.
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[04:09] <steveoy132ikl> Is there anyway to install libva2 on ubuntu 16.04?
[04:11] <steveoy132ikl> hello?
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[04:18] <hggdh> steveoy132ikl: probably sudo apt install libva2
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[04:48] <Canon> id like to have one sever with each nic on different settings
[04:50] <leftyfb> Canon: ok?
[04:58] <neildugan> Hello, I have a SSH VPN setup is there anyway I can rate limit the bandwidth this uses?
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[04:59] <Stormmore> at this rate it will take me 3 day to clone mainline-crack repo!
[05:00] <Canon> how is it done in 18.04
[05:03] <leftyfb> Canon: https://netplan.io/examples
[05:20] <hanasaki1> how to display the entire remote desktop on a differnet computer?
[05:20] <EriC^^> hanasaki1: ubuntu has desktop sharing by default
[05:20] <EriC^^> hanasaki1: search for "desktop sharing" app and set it up
[05:21] <EriC^^> then use ""remmina" to connect (also default)
[05:21] <hanasaki1> what app do you like? and what server? is that vnc?
[05:21] <EriC^^> yes it uses vnc i think
[05:23] <qwebirc61731> join
[05:25] <qwebirc61731> Does anybody here know a good bit about encrypting Ubuntu?
[05:25] <qwebirc61731> I need to do an encryption in a very specific way
[05:29] <qwebirc61731> Anybody?
[05:29] <Psi-Jack> Too vague. Meta questions are not helpful.
[05:30] <qwebirc61731> I wanted to start with finding out if anybody knows about encryption, but I can certainly explain the issue
[05:31] <Psi-Jack> And that's what a meta question is. :p
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[05:34] <qwebirc61731> To be specific, It has to do with the limited encrytion options on the install disk.  The only option is where it says ""encrypt the new ubuntu installation for security" but that appears to encrypt the entire drive.  I only want Ubuntu related partitions encrypted, the end of the drive will have one large unencrypted partition
[05:35] <qwebirc61731> I already have the OS installed (with nothing important on it yet) so If I can encrypt the partitions after installation that'd be great.
[05:35] <qwebirc61731> But...
[05:36] <qwebirc61731> The only other alternative to that which I can think of is to encrypt the whole drive with the Ubuntu installation software and then resize the encrypted system partition after to make room for the other partition but I've read that's also complicated.
[05:36] <qwebirc61731> I'm open to other ideas though, such as third party software. I'm very new to Linux and Ubuntu and literally haven't messed with it for more than two days so if I need to type commands or do something complicated I'd need to know step by step how to do it.
[05:37] <qwebirc61731> Thanks in advance for any help, if there are any other details on the problem that you need let me know
[05:38] <qwebirc61731> I can explain the hard drive partition layout if you want.
[05:41] <qwebirc61731> Any ideas or suggestions?
[05:41] <EriC^^> qwebirc61731: i wonder, could you trick the installer into thinking the drive is smaller?
[05:42] <qwebirc61731> I'm not sure, that'd be nice though if it worked
[05:44] <qwebirc61731> Perhaps if I created a partition with a filesystem that Ubuntu cant read but that seems like a longshot since it'll even read file systems like NTFS
[05:45] <EriC^^> qwebirc61731: yeah i think it would still erase the whole disk
[05:45] <qwebirc61731> Probably :(
[05:46] <EriC^^> qwebirc61731: you could install to a vm maybe and then dd it to your disk?
[05:46] <EriC^^> something to that effect
[05:48] <EriC^^> qwebirc61731: i think there are manual encryption methods maybe that you can setup before starting the installer
[05:48] <EriC^^> qwebirc61731: https://askubuntu.com/questions/918021/encrypted-custom-install
[05:50] <qwebirc61731> Sounds like it could potentially work, but I don't know all of the steps involved and only once messed with a VM a long time ago.
[05:50] <qwebirc61731> let me check out the link
[05:54] <qwebirc61731> Hmm
[05:54] <hanasaki1> is there something more like rdp or pciop for desktop sharing and has encryption?
[05:55] <qwebirc61731> The link seems like it could be a solution but the guy who had the answers didn't explain what to do step by step.  I'm pretty new unfortunately
[05:56] <EriC^^> qwebirc61731: he did explain step by step
[05:56] <qwebirc61731> I'll give an example, just a second
[05:59] <qwebirc61731> Okay for example where he says the following:        "Setup LUKS sudo cryptsetup luksFormat --hash=sha512 --key-size=512 --cipher=aes-xts-plain64 --verify-passphrase /dev/sdb2 sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdb2 CryptDisk While not necessary, it is a good idea to fill your LUKS partition with zeros so that the partition, in an encrypted state, is filled with random data. sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mapper/CryptDisk bs=4M BEWARE,
[06:01] <qwebirc61731> I have no idea how to get to LUKS, or where to type all of that in, or how to fill a LUKS partition with zeros
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[06:04] <qwebirc61731> It sounds like it could be a solution if I knew how to do that pre-installation stuff.
[06:06] <qwebirc61731> Where he says "Setup LUKS sudo cryptsetup luksFormat --hash=sha512 --key-size=512 --cipher=aes-xts-plain64 --verify-passphrase /dev/sdb2 sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdb2 CryptDisk"  I'm assuming he means go to the termnal to set up LUKS by typing in all of those commands but I'm not sure, that's just a guess
[06:08] <qwebirc61731> I I'll be back in 5, I need a smoke lol
[06:09] <hanasaki1> no dice.. vnc screenshare doesnt work
[06:09] <EriC^^> qwebirc61731: yes, he is settinp up the luks on /dev/sdb2 and opening it, (assigning it to /dev/mapper/cryptdisk) and the /dev/zero command writes the zeros
[06:12] <rot> I want to install specific version of g++ compiler. (4.9) But with apt-get I can only istall the lattest. What can I do?
[06:14] <EriC^^> hanasaki1: ubuntu has screen sharing by default
[06:15] <qwebirc61731> I need to reboot in linux to test some of this out, will you be on for a few?  If not it's cool
[06:17] <qwebirc61731> Hopefully I can get on this IRC channel from the linux boot cd, some website functions go down, like streaming videos on youtube.
[06:26] <qwebirc61731> It's 2:23, on second thought I'll continue work on this tommorow.  Thanks for the link Eric, I think I'm going to give that a try.  Hopefully someone on here will be able to better explain some of the steps I'm going ot be unsure on.
[06:55] <StanHunter> hiall
[07:05] <neildugan> Hello, I have a SSH VPN setup is there anyway I can rate limit the bandwidth this uses?
[07:08] <qwebirc22> Hey! I have a problem trying to install Ubuntu from USB. I get the "Failed to load ldlinux.c32, boot failed ..." error, what's the best way to fix this?
[07:23] <guiverc> qwebirc22, are you by change trying to load a 64bit iso on a 32bit virtual machine?
[07:24] <guiverc> s/change/chance sorry
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[07:41] <Temper> anyone having problems with networkmanager and using a vpn in ubuntu 18.04?
[07:42] <bobphalanx> Temper: care to elaborate? I did have yes
[07:42] <bobphalanx> I couldn't use the GUI at all, just didn't connect to the VPN
[07:42] <bobphalanx> So what I did was run openvpn on command line, but the GUI problem seems to persist
[07:43] <Temper> bobphalanx: I can connect but after like a day or two it disconnects and won't reconnect to the vpn until a reboot. vpn is fine works great on my android.
[07:43] <Temper> bobphalanx: once the reboot it connects right back just fine
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[07:45] <bobphalanx> Okay, unfortunately I cannot help you with your problem but hopefully someone here can
[07:45] <Temper> firejail is acting up on ubuntu 18.04 and tor sandbox is not working on ubuntu 18.04
[07:46] <Temper> ubuntu bugs are such a joy!!!
[07:46] <Temper> I would like to know if the delay in upgrading from 16.04 has anything to do with their upgrade program or just waiting to fix some bugs in 18.04 in general?
[07:47] <Temper> I am considering a clean install or going to debian
[07:48] <Temper> I thought the release was coming at the end of july so i went ahead and upgraded not realizing that they were going to delay it for some reason..it could have been nice if they let people know whats going on
[07:59] <n2_> My name is Terry Gillis I am being framed by a large human trafficking ring including US Marshals and SEVERAL corrupt police spread out on the east coast I have seen sheriffs raping little boys with my own eyes and am a lifelong rape victim of theirs it is on my facebook page please help us I am in johns creek ga now but have been framed in several jurisdictions please help me and my family, also forward to reporters or DOJ please.﻿
[08:06] <brainwash> Temper: bug 1776175
[08:09] <Temper> I saw that one. mine is a little different their is apparently a few bugs with firejail and ubuntu 18.04 that need to be worked out.
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[08:12] <Temper> getting invites and it won't let me join lol
[08:15] <BootScout> hello
[08:15] <BootScout> I ve been using dual boot windows 10 with Kubuntu for a while now
[08:16] <BootScout> I had Ubuntu on a 500 gb hdd and windows 10 on another 500 Gb hdd
[08:16] <BootScout> both were runnning out of space so I bought a new Western Digital 2Tb hdd
[08:17] <BootScout> then i used dd to clone windows to the new drive and then did the same with the kubuntu home partition
[08:18] <BootScout> then I booted into windows and set the old 500 Gb hdd to unalocated space
[08:18] <BootScout> the next time I tried to boot windows I got 0cx000000e error
[08:20] <BootScout> I tried this to fix it: http://www.screwloose.com.au/windows-10-bootrec-the-requested-system-device-cannot-be-found but still I get the same error
[08:22] <BootScout> after the cloning process I used boot repair to restore grub
[08:23] <EriC^^> BootScout: you only cloned the partition for windows?
[08:23] <EriC^^> not the partition table
[08:25] <BootScout> EriC^^: I cloned it all
[08:25] <BootScout> EriC^^:  I can see there the Fat32 boot/Efi partition with Gparted
[08:27] <BootScout> EriC^^: I used this method: https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/19141/clone-a-hard-drive-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/
[08:27] <CoolerZ> is there an app to sync clipboard between pc and phone?
[08:27] <CoolerZ> i found one called kde connect, are there better ones?
[08:28] <hateball> CoolerZ: KDE Connect is great
[08:28] <hateball> I think GNOME might have something similar (soon?)
[08:28] <BootScout> EriC^^:  but I used Kubuntu instead of the live cd (Kubuntu / ) is still in its old 500Gb I only cloned /home to the new 2Tb Hdd
[08:29] <azi`> each time I use alt+tab ubuntu only switches between windows of different types (browser, terminal,..) so if I have 10 terminal windows open its pretty annoying having to switch between them
[08:29] <azi`> is there a way to tell him to treat each window individually?
[08:35] <guiverc> azi`, i'm not a gnome user; but I thought when you paused on terminal - it'd switch from tabbing between programs, to within that program (ie. your 10 terminal windows)...
[08:35] <CoolerZ> is there a google drive client for ubuntu 18.04 ?
[08:36] <CoolerZ> i need it a desktop client in order to sync folders
[08:36] <CoolerZ> it to be a*
[08:37] <hateball> CoolerZ: Not an official one, but there are things like Grive2 or the "online accounts" in both KDE Plasma and GNOME
[08:38] <azi`> guiverc: nope
[08:42] <guiverc> i'm probably thinking of another desktop sorry; no sure if this helps sorry (https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/15/alternatetab/)
[08:42] <guiverc> s/no sure/not sure/... typo sorry
[08:43] <azi`> i'll check it out thanks
[08:44] <guiverc> may also be useful - https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-gnome-shell-extensions-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[08:46] <arek> Hello, I recently installed Ubuntu 18.04, however, as expected Firefox stutters and is slow. Normally I'd just install proprietary AMD drivers, but I read that they are no longer supported since 14.04 and I'm stuck with the open source ones. I don't know what to do now, try to update the drivers I already I have? (I JUST installed the newest Ubuntu) or...?
[08:48] <arek> I have a HD 4570 graphic card so I can't use AMDGPU-PRO driver because it doesn't support my card
[08:54] <EriC^^> BootScout: do you get grub right now?
[08:56] <BootScout> EriC^^: yes and I can use kubuntu
[08:56] <BootScout> EriC^^:  I get the windows boot option but when I choose it I get to the 0cx000000e error
[08:57] <EriC^^> BootScout: i see, type in kubuntu "sudo ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999"
[08:57] <BootScout> EriC^^: I am at the office right now...
[08:58] <BootScout> EriC^^:  I am far from my computer...
[08:59] <EriC^^> BootScout: take a look here https://neosmart.net/wiki/0xc000000e_selected_entry_could_not_be_loaded/
[08:59] <BootScout> EriC^^:  but from 18:00 onwards I will be happy to follow your advice
[09:00] <EriC^^> BootScout: ok, it also might be due to some filesystem compromise
[09:01] <EriC^^> i got the same error about not finding \winload.exe after using ntfsresize to shrink a windows install
[09:01] <BootScout> EriC^^: I already tried to repair it with the windows installation disk
[09:01] <EriC^^> BootScout: if you successfully rebuilt the efi partition and bcd stuff and it still did that, i'd check the hdd for damage or something like that using smartctl from smartmontools package
[09:02] <EriC^^> BootScout: are you sure kubuntu is booting the right windows efi partition file? are both disks still plugged in?
[09:02] <BootScout> EriC^^:  I followed this fix: http://www.screwloose.com.au/windows-10-bootrec-the-requested-system-device-cannot-be-found
[09:03] <BootScout> EriC^^:  and it all happened like it is posted there...but still get the same error
[09:04] <EriC^^> BootScout: make sure 1 hdd is plugged only, then rebuild the bcd and bootrec, then boot into kubuntu and run "sudo update-grub"
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[09:04] <EriC^^> and see if it works, if it doesn't then run a smart test on the hdd, or chkdsk from a windows install prompt and try it's auto recovery stuff
[09:04] <BootScout> EriC^^:  1 HD?
[09:05] <EriC^^> BootScout: yeah, do you have only the 2tb hdd plugged in?
[09:05] <BootScout> EriC^^:  Kubuntu is on a 500 HDD and Windows on the new 2Tb Hdd
[09:05] <BootScout> I have all the HDD connected
[09:05] <EriC^^> BootScout: well, you need to make sure it's booting the right efi file in grub
[09:06] <BootScout> EriC^^:  how?
[09:06] <EriC^^> BootScout: look at the menu entry in "/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[09:06] <BootScout> I installed grub organizer but I dont think that will fix a thing
[09:06] <EriC^^> see if the efi partition UUID match the actual windows one
[09:06] <EriC^^> yeah
[09:08] <BootScout> so boot/grub/grub.cfg okay...I need to check there whether the efi is in the sdb partition where the cloned windows partitions are or not
[09:08] <BootScout> got it
[09:16] <testgsv> is it possible to use reprepro to copy all packages from one distribution to another? I see the command for it (reprepro copy dest source package name) but I tried '*' and it didn't work :(
[09:23] <EriC^^> BootScout: actually, the UUID's would be the same if you cloned the disk, and ubuntu could get confused about which efi partition to boot, so it actually mounts the kubuntu one that has the same UUID
[09:24] <EriC^^> ah he's gone
[09:28] <Pr070cal> hi guys how do i switch a program to another screen
[09:29] <Pr070cal> eg if my tv is off so i cant see the window and i opened the program on that screen last so it opens again on that screen how do i move it to another screen
[09:30] <Pr070cal> i have my unity dock bar im wondering is there a package
[09:47] <Pr070cal> hi i tried to use compiz to switch apps between screens when i run it it says i have to use --replace to replace the window manager but my dock and activities bar disappear
[09:48] <guiverc> Pr070cal, I don't use Unity, but some environments have an option to select where windows open, eg. openbox settings -> window manager preferences -> prefer to place windows on (i have "the monitor with the mouse" selected) - you could look in tweaks?
[09:48] <Ssss_> hello. can someone help me with downgrading a software please? I am having trouble with the new "catfish" so I want to downgrade to the version 1.4.2-3. Therefore I tried the command "sudo apt-get install catfish=1.4.2-3" but it allows replies that it cannot find this version. What can I do? Thank you in advance!
[09:48] <Ssss_> -allows +always
[09:51] <guiverc> Ssss_, you could look at `apt-cache showpkg catfish` to see what versions are available
[09:53] <Ssss_> It only shows the newest version 1.4.4-1
[09:54] <Ssss_> Somehow there is a right-click bug for catfish. Someone else reported that already. If you select more than one file in the search you cannot right-click on it...
[09:55] <guiverc> i suspected as much - my local repo keeps only the latest.. you don't by chance have it in apt archives do you  (/var/cache/apt/archives/)
[09:56] <Ssss_> I just installed the newest version of Xubuntu, therefore I think I do not have it.
[09:56] <Ssss_> Do you know any other program in which I can search for files by name to select it and move it to another place?
[09:57] <JimBuntu> Ssss_, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/catfish_1.4.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb ?
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[09:59] <Gekko> Is it possible to remove netplan from Ubuntu 18 and simply use systemd-networkd?
[10:00] <guiverc> Ssss_, ps: when it's installed; make sure you `apt-mark hold catf...` to ensure it doesn't upgrade again... :)
[10:03] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:06] <Ssss_> So what do I have to type? When I install catfish, then it upgrades right away
[10:06] <Ssss_> I install and afterwards I type "apt-mark hold catfish" ?
[10:08] <Ssss_> Oh ok
[10:08] <JimBuntu> Ssss_, I think that is all you need to type, checking
[10:08] <Ssss_> I just typed it.
[10:08] <Ssss_> Now I installed
[10:08] <gt8ost4l> does anybody here know where clementine media player stores the music?
[10:09] <Ssss_> I will have one more try. I will tell you if it works.
[10:09] <ibvdppl> test
[10:11] <Ssss_> Somehow it does not work.
[10:12] <JimBuntu> Ssss_, You may need to remove the hold (set to auto), then purge all catfish, then install the version I linked to with && apt-mark hold catfish
[10:13] <JimBuntu> Ssss_, Normally a system doesn't immediately update a package within seconds of one being manually installed
[10:14] <Ssss_> 1. I install the program 2. I type the line
[10:14] <Ssss_> 3. I open the program 4. I check the version and it's 1.4.4-1 again.
[10:15] <Ssss_> Somehow the right-click works, but it does not work to show the selected files in the normal window
[10:15] <Ssss_> to make ctrl+x
[10:15] <Ssss_> and paste it into another window
[10:15] <JimBuntu> Ssss_, did you remove / purge the program first?
[10:15] <Ssss_> So
[10:15] <Ssss_> Yes I did
[10:16] <JimBuntu> Double check the ~/.config directory for any remnants and such, I wonder if others are reporting the same issue
[10:16] <JimBuntu> lol, disconnect your internet while you install and then run the program
[10:17] <JimBuntu> Perhaps you need to also remove any cached version from apt
[10:17] <Sinmok> Hello
[10:17] <JimBuntu> Ssss_, if it persists, see if unattended-upgrades is enabled, if so, disable it first
[10:18] <Sinmok> I'm trying to install webmin on ubuntu server 18.04. When I install apt-get install webmin i get the following error:
[10:18] <Sinmok> en packages.
[10:18] <Sinmok> Any ideas please?
[10:18] <JimBuntu> ~paste | Sinmok
[10:18] <JimBuntu> !paste | Sinmok
[10:19] <Sinmok> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7ZjznrN5x6/
[10:19] <Sinmok> Like that?
[10:19] <JimBuntu> Sinmok, sudo apt-get install -f
[10:21] <JimBuntu> Sinmok, also... are you installing from Ubuntu repos or from a PPA?
[10:23] <Truk> hello i am trying to reinstall grub2 with efi on ubuntu from a live cd and i am trying to use chroot
[10:23] <Truk> i have chroot: failed to run command /bin/bash no such file or directory
[10:23] <BluesKaj> webmin is no longer available in the repos, so it's not supported here afaik
[10:23] <Truk> i followed this answer  https://superuser.com/questions/376470/how-to-reinstall-grub2-efi
[10:28] <Sinmok> I added "deb http://download.webmin.com/download/repository sarge contrib" so my sources.list
[10:28] <Sinmok> like their docs explained
[10:29] <EriC^^> Truk: type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:29] <BluesKaj> Sinmok, did you update and upgrade before trying to install?
[10:29] <Sinmok> BluesKaj yes
[10:30] <Sinmok> I did apt-update and a dist upgrade too
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[10:40] <stemid> how do you "Up" an interface on ubuntu 16? I'm not used to ubuntu but I added two dummy interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces.d/dummy and tried ifup dummy0 and ifconfig dummy0 up but none of those recognize the interfaces yet. I also tried to restart the networking service but it fails saying the dummy interfaces are not recognized.
[10:40] <stemid> I did auto dummy0 first so I assume the auto part would create the interface.
[10:40] <stemid> and I don't have NetworkManager.
[10:41] <stemid> hm maybe I need to ip link add dummy0 type dummy first. but is that persistent across reboot?
[10:42] <supermariobronze> stemid do your interfaces show up with ip add ?
[10:42] <stemid> no I just realized I forgot dummy in /etc/modules
[10:43] <stemid> so that wouldn't work
[10:43] <k_sze[work]> Is there anyway to mount exfat in rw mode in Xenial without using fuse?
[10:44] <stemid> yup after modprobe dummy I could service networking restart without errors.
[10:44] <stemid> <-dummy
[10:45] <stevenm> anyone using apple mice with ubuntu?  i've figured out how to slow down the speed of the cursor and speed up the speed of scrolling (using xinput and modprobe) - but can't find out how to make it stop reacting to the slightest touch and scroll when it shoudln't be
[10:48] <ppf> why not get a proper mouse
[10:49] <k_sze[work]> I second ppf.
[10:49] <k_sze[work]> Get a Logitech LS1
[10:49] <k_sze[work]> It's super cheap and very reliable.
[10:50] <k_sze[work]> I even use that with my MacBook Pro, in macOS.
[10:50] <LinuxTabletUser> :-)
[10:51] <LinuxTabletUser> With Running Hp G62
[11:00] <mar77i> I'm wondering about something in ubuntu. I had a problem with one of xenial's packages and installed a package from a more recent release. Central to the piece is a *.so library, so I wonder whether I have to worry about the list of packages returned by `apt-cache rdepends package`?
[11:00] <ppf> mar77i: long story short, if you mess with package dependencies you have to worry
[11:02] <wudo_honour> but when dependencies conflict with that before versions , how to fix
[11:03] <wudo_honour> if going on , that would broke the system , and you can not rolling back
[11:03] <ppf> manually and tediously
[11:03] <ppf> well you can, but it'll be a lot of work
[11:05] <wudo_honour> ppf.     it must have some  tools that can rolling back system
[11:05] <ppf> wudo_honour: yes, a full disk backup
[11:05] <burzos> What is the longer version of the story ppf?
[11:06] <wudo_honour> can i back up to cloud storage?
[11:06] <ppf> burzos: it'll work for some time, until some package upgrade wants a specific dependency that's broken by the ones you installed from the non-standard repos
[11:06] <wudo_honour> i mean i wanna know the tools name
[11:07] <ppf> i.e., you _will_ run into a dependency conflict, the question is when
[11:08] <burzos> If I install both versions of the library the linker can resolve which version to use with which programs?
[11:08] <ppf> package management doesn't work that way
[11:09] <wudo_honour> yeah
[11:09] <ppf> also, no, the linker doesn't do versioning
[11:09] <ppf> it links in whatever filename you request, no questions asked
[11:10] <burzos> So why don't devs put the version into the lib filename?
[11:10] <wudo_honour> and   gpu driver is an issue
[11:10] <ppf> burzos: they do
[11:10] <ppf> but the linker doesn't help you
[11:11] <burzos> Then side by side install will work fine.
[11:11] <ppf> if library clients are aware then sure
[11:11] <wudo_honour> you’re not programmer s
[11:11] <ppf> and the package maintainers don't screw up
[11:12] <ppf> e.g., you can install multiple versions of gcc just fine
[11:12] <burzos> Can't Ubuntu require maintainers to put the versioning data into the filenames, so we can do side by side installs for everything?
[11:13] <ppf> that's not up to the maintainers, really
[11:13] <ppf> library devs, client devs, and packagers for all distributions need to agree
[11:13] <wudo_honour> sure they did. but you may pay for it
[11:14] <ppf> which is what they do on windows
[11:14] <ppf> and after half a year the sxs cache is 10s of gigabytes of dlls
[11:15] <burzos> Disk space is cheap.
[11:15] <mar77i> hmm. is there a way I could have the *.so file load for a particular user?
[11:15] <ppf> not fast space
[11:15] <burzos> Making me resolve conflicting shared libraries is expensive.
[11:15] <ppf> which is what you want your OS to use
[11:15] <wudo_honour> but too slowly
[11:16] <ppf> mar77i: sure, if you build it yourself you can have your user pick it up
[11:16] <burzos> mar77i: Can you use LD_PRELOAD?
[11:16] <ppf> nah, that's the wrong one
[11:16] <ppf> LD_LIBRARY_PATH is what you set
[11:17] <ppf> we're talking linker, not loader
[11:17] <debron> guys, im trying to force my logrotate.d/custom.conf file to run, with command: logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.d/custom.conf   . Id doesn't show in terminal any error, it echoes "moving file.log to file.log.1" and even "compressing gzip...". But then no changes are made in the logs directory, all .log still there non-rotated (i forced logrotate -vf /etc/logrotate.d/custom.conf)
[11:18] <zzarr> hello!
[11:18] <ppf> burzos: containers look like a way out of the versioning hell
[11:18] <ppf> you should checkout snap/flatpak
[11:19] <zzarr> is it possible to run a KaiOS app in a chroot or lxc?
[11:19] <wudo_honour> what app?
[11:20] <CoolerZ> hey anyone here use kde connect
[11:20] <CoolerZ> how do you sync the clipboard?
[11:20] <ppf> zzarr: i'd say it's likely
[11:20] <ppf> but since the OS is closed source, it's gonna be hard to get there
[11:21] <zzarr> ppf, cool
[11:21] <ppf> because you need to install it in the container ;)
[11:21] <zzarr> yes, but they will open up some of it
[11:22] <cfields17> kaniini has invited you to join #litepub
[11:22] <zzarr> maybe one could make an app and study it
[11:22] <zzarr> I know it's built on Firefox OS
[11:28] <xPacks> hey
[11:29] <xPacks> hello people
[11:30] <Helenah> Hi, my friend was working on an Ubuntu thin client for a while no problem, however for no known reason, a dbus error started "Could not acquire username from session bus", it appears upon login and MATE desktop doesn't start it's top and bottom bars, instead all I see is a desktop and a home folder icon.
[11:30] <Helenah> May I have some advice on what to do please?
[11:32] <capa> cole cole
[11:32] <capa> daquele naipe
[11:32] <capa> kkkkkkk
[11:33] <capa> ta doidao em kkkkkk
[11:33] <Helenah> capa: There are other Ubuntu channels for other languages other than English where you will better get support.
[11:34] <capa> kkkkkkkkkkk brasil ze
[11:34] <Helenah> capa: #ubuntu-br
[11:34] <capa> aqui o bagui e doido !!!!!!
[11:35] <Helenah> #ubuntu-br = Brazzil
[11:35] <LinuxTabletUser> Ubuntu 16.04 Not installing Apps
[11:39] <JimBuntu> !br | capa
[11:40] <Helenah> Yeah, I wondered what the command was for that.
[11:40] <Helenah> He gone now, anyway.
[11:40] <JimBuntu> Helenah, now you know :-)
[11:40] <Helenah> Thanks :)
[11:40] <Helenah> I saw people use it, however I forgot.
[11:40] <JimBuntu> Helenah, you can also replace the | with a > to make ubottu PM them instead of posting it in public.
[11:41] <Helenah> Nice
[11:41] <guiverc> LinuxTabletUser, you made a statement, but I didn't see a question?
[11:42] <LinuxTabletUser> https://bin.co/ksWAd9
[11:43] <JimBuntu> !paste | LinuxTabletUser
[11:43] <LinuxTabletUser> https://ibb.co/ksWAd9
[11:44] <leftyfb> LinuxTabletUser: what is that link for?
[11:45] <JimBuntu> leftyfb, possibly just a little way to try and infect you
[11:47] <waldner> I'm not finding clear information on whether it's possible to install ubuntu server without an internet connection (ie, having everything the installer needs on the ISO only or on a local mirror). Can anyone help?
[11:47] <leftyfb> waldner: yes, it's possible
[11:47] <JimBuntu> waldner, yes, you can install server without an internet connection.
[11:47] <LinuxTabletUser> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VdNDF8wZNz/
[11:47] <waldner> leftyfb: do I have to remaster the ISO?
[11:48] <leftyfb> no
[11:48] <guiverc> waldner, it will install everything, except updates that have occurred since the ISO was released, and any additional software you need of course
[11:48] <waldner> will that block the installation prompting for "hit ok" or so?
[11:48] <waldner> (yes, I want to do it unattended, sotty I forgot to mention)
[11:48] <waldner> *sorry
[11:49] <guiverc> LinuxTabletUser, try using a `--classic`  on your snap install command
[11:49] <Helenah> Yeah, I'm interested in that too, an unattended Ubuntu installation.
[11:50] <waldner> Helenah: unattended is easy, but I see that the installer invariably tries to connect to the internet
[11:50] <leftyfb> waldner: unattended is non-trivial. https://askubuntu.com/questions/122505/how-do-i-create-a-completely-unattended-install-of-ubuntu
[11:51] <guiverc> it's a permissions issue LinuxTabletUser, the snap you are trying to install wants access to a filesystem, and this won't work if it's limited to a 'containerized environment'
[11:51] <Helenah> Ah, nice, thanks a lot, leftyfb :)
[11:51] <waldner> leftyfb: would that NOT connect to eh internet during installation?
[11:51] <leftyfb> waldner: if you answer the questions in the preseed properly
[11:52] <waldner> leftyfb: what are the preseed entries that control that? I haven't been able to find information
[11:52] <qswz> guys, weird thing, I'm using an old laptop, on 17.10, I tried many times to dist-upgrade it, but no matter what I try, it stays at 17.10
[11:53] <leftyfb> waldner: start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/s390x/apbs02.html   (first result on google)
[11:53] <waldner> s390x?
[11:53] <leftyfb> qswz: ! upgrade
[11:53] <leftyfb> !upgrade | qswz
[11:54] <waldner> leftyfb: I do know how to do preseeding, I do that routinely
[11:54] <waldner> but the installer always connects to the internet
[11:54] <qswz> thanks
[11:54] <leftyfb> waldner: at what point does it try to connect to the internet?
[11:55] <waldner> during package installation
[11:55] <waldner> or upgrades, I'm not sure right now
[11:55] <qwebirc76670> he
[11:55] <waldner> but surely it downloads stuff
[11:55] <Ronin77> ls
[11:55] <qswz> foo bar
[11:56] <leftyfb> waldner: then it would make sense to determine at which exact point it's trying to "download stuff" and work from there.
[11:57] <waldner> first time is when it tries to find a mirror
[11:57] <LinuxTabletUser> Fat32 to NTFS
[11:57] <leftyfb> waldner: so preset the mirror
[11:57] <Helenah> I remember college using Ubuntu 4 back in 2013 for hosting their website infrastructure.
[11:57] <LinuxTabletUser> USB Drive
[11:57] <guiverc> y
[11:58] <Helenah> I questioned it myself.
[11:58] <guiverc> (sorry - wrong window)
[11:58] <Helenah> that excuse was "You can't upgrade Ubuntu 4 to a more modern version of Ubuntu".
[11:58] <Helenah> *their
[11:58] <Ronin77> hey guys i ran a sudo umount -la and now i cant run sudo to remount everything - sudo: effective uid is not 0, is /usr/bin/sudo on a file system with the 'nosuid' option set or an NFS file system without root privileges? - anyone ran into this before
[11:58] <Helenah> Aaaah
[11:58] <Helenah> How common are DBUS errors?
[11:59] <leftyfb> Helenah: except at that point they installed a 9yo OS that was 22 releases old. They were dumb for multiple reasons
[12:00] <Helenah> leftyfb: The network manager was sniggering about it as she fired an excuse for keeping Ubuntu 4 at me.
[12:01] <Helenah> Yet... I was able to bind a reverse root/admin shell to several of their Windows/Linux system.
[12:02] <Elisha> Hello, i want to install php7.2-fpm and it doesn't find package with apt...
[12:02] <Elisha> any ideas?
[12:03] <leftyfb> Elisha: what version of ubuntu?
[12:03] <Elisha> 18.04.1 LTS
[12:03] <Elisha> downloaded it minutes ago, installed it
[12:04] <Helenah> Did you do apt-get update?
[12:04] <Helenah> Did you also use apt-cache search?
[12:04] <Elisha> yes
[12:04] <Elisha> doesn't show the package with apt-cache
[12:04] <Helenah> It most likely isn't in the repo, however could be another issue.
[12:04] <leftyfb> it is in the default repo
[12:05] <Helenah> Then in that cause, you got an issue with your APT cache, Elisha
[12:05] <Helenah> *case
[12:05] <leftyfb> Elisha: pastebin: apt-cache policy php7.2-fpm
[12:06] <Elisha> https://pastebin.com/AXS1Lme8
[12:06] <Helenah> hmm
[12:06] <leftyfb> Elisha: pastebin: apt update
[12:07] <leftyfb> oh, it's part of universe
[12:07] <Elisha> https://pastebin.com/7WTwxn9B
[12:07] <leftyfb> Elisha: enable the universe repo
[12:07] <Elisha> aha
[12:07] <Elisha> probably that :)
[12:08] <Elisha> now I need to find how to do that
[12:09] <Elisha> Thanks, now let's see
[12:09] <leftyfb> you should not be running a server hosting php sites if you dont know simple system administration like enabling repos
[12:09] <Helenah> Everytime I've installed Ubuntu, Universe was enabled by default...
[12:09] <Helenah> Am I missing something?
[12:10] <Elisha> leftyfb
[12:10] <Elisha> I got it :)
[12:10] <leftyfb> Helenah: not on server
[12:10] <Elisha> policy now shows candidates
[12:10] <Ronin77> Alright gather round as I tell ye the story of the Seventh Severed Head. My laptop is connected with ssh to a server with all file systems in /etc/fstab lazily unmounted. I have decided to send myself a tar of my data with Scp in case of catastrophe after reboot. I am unable to reboot the server remotely, so I must send a lad to the site to press the power button. The heat lingers on as I waste away in this wasteland called Starbucks.
[12:10] <Elisha> normally it was enabled on server in previous versions
[12:11] <Elisha> I haven't touched 18.04 version yet
[12:11] <leftyfb> !ot | Ronin77
[12:12] <LinuxTabletUser> !touch
[12:12] <Helenah> leftyfb: Aaaah!
[12:12] <Helenah> Interesting, now that I didn't realise.
[12:18] <xubuntu17w> hello i want to install https://launchpad.net/python-distutils-extra, but there is no readme. i tried "sudo python setup.py install --user" but it replied with "Traceback (most recent call last):   File "setup.py", line 3, in <module>     from setuptools import setup ImportError: No module named setuptools"
[12:20] <ioria> !info python-setuptools
[12:20] <ioria> !info python3-setuptools
[12:20] <Ronin77_> i am now registered, can i get some assistance
[12:23] <Guest85759> !14.04 |ioria
[12:23] <Guest85759> Not Problems
[12:25] <trozfx> test
[12:26] <guiverc> Ronin77_, ask your Ubuntu Support question (try & keep to a single line), if someone has the answer, they'll provide it when they can
[12:28] <Ronin77_> Thank you guiver. I ran a sudo umount -al command while connected via SSH, and now I can't run sudo so I cannot remount anything, and I'm wondering if I manually reboot the machine will this solve the problem?
[12:29] <Ronin77_> asdf
[12:31] <Helenah>  Hi, my friend was working on an Ubuntu thin client for a while no problem, however for no known reason, a dbus error started "Could not acquire username from session bus", it appears upon login and MATE desktop doesn't start it's top and bottom bars, instead all I see is a desktop and a home folder icon.
[12:35] <Aleric> Anyone official here taking a bug report?
[12:35] <guiverc> Ronin77_, I can only give my own opinion (I've never done it), i'd bet yes.
[12:37] <Aleric> A problem that I ended up with is something that I see back in many google results; for example: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1029509/no-gui-after-kubuntu-18-04-lts-upgrade-from-17-10   Accepted answer, quote: "It turns out that the lightdm package was left in a broken state after upgrading. The sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm command ended up exiting with an error and saying that the lightdm package was broken or not completely installed."  This is what
[12:37] <Aleric> happened to me and a lot of others too.
[12:40] <guiverc> Aleric, if you want to file a bug report, why not go to launchpad & file it yourself?  you'll be better at it as you'll know more info about what occurred etc
[12:41] <Aleric> https://askubuntu.com/a/1032384/493223  <-- another (of many) that say this.
[12:41] <guiverc> Aleric, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs , https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/report-ubuntu-bug.html.en
[12:43] <ash_m> To beat a dead horse (just to be clear), this is what I was talking about: http://g.jk.gs/IE.png
[12:47] <ash_m> Everything is better with a dot graph
[12:49] <neo_a_geek> sadf
[12:49] <neo_a_geek> How to configure apache sticky session?
[12:50] <neo_a_geek> let's speak about apache
[12:50] <neo_a_geek> stickiness what is it?
[12:51] <neo_a_geek> passed
[12:51] <Aleric> guiverc: that seems to be for reporting a bug on a specific program, not for the 18.04 upgrade release.
[12:51] <trf> hi all
[12:51] <JimBuntu> neo_a_geek, session stickiness? As in always making sure the same "instance" handles requests from the same session user?
[12:52] <neo_a_geek> Alina-malina, Что ты тут забыла?
[12:52] <neo_a_geek> Alina-malina, тебя ж тут раньше небыло сучка )))))
[12:52] <guiverc> Aleric, you probably used `do-release-upgrade` to do the upgrade - so file on that... if it's the wrong package, hopefully a bug-squad member will correct package...
[12:52] <neo_a_geek> Alina-malina, Давай общаться? Ты там?
[12:53] <neo_a_geek> Alina-malina, Алина, Алина... )))
[12:54] <Mr-Potter> Hello everyone
[12:54] <ash_m> Where's the bot that pipes everything through Google Translate?
[12:54] <Mr-Potter> Can I discuss Linux Mint given that it is a Ubuntu deritative?
[12:54] <neo_a_geek> hi
[12:55] <Mr-Potter> I've just been banned from their support channel that's all, it's not really a Mint specific issue just a case of the OS not booting
[12:55] <ash_m> Mr-Potter neo_a_geek is talking about Apache! You're pretty good if you talking about anything OSy at this point
[12:55] <JimBuntu> Mr-Potter, Well, Mint isn't an official flavor, I don't think
[12:55] <sadvebar> how to install pulse effects
[12:55] <Mr-Potter> ash_m: Thanks
[12:56] <Mr-Potter> JimBuntu: Correct
[12:56] <sadvebar> can you help me
[12:56] <Mr-Potter> Well what's happened is that I've dual booted Windows 7 starter with Linux Mint 19. Initially I could only boot Linux not Windows, after restoring the windows mbr I can only boot Windows not Linux
[12:56] <Mr-Potter> What should I do?
[12:59] <Aleric> guiverc: Sorry, I am STILL trying to find out how to report anything - this is WAY too complex for me. I don't have time to do a one-hour study before I can even begin to type a bug report :/
[13:01] <guiverc> Aleric,  `ubuntu-bug do-release-upgrade`  & follow the questions... (you'll likely be asked for password, be taken to a browser but just follow what it says)
[13:05] <jocic> Hello guys, how are you? I was just wondering, is there a way to easily create a fake wireless network interface if you only have an ethernet adapter?
[13:06] <ash_m> jocic a virtual interface?
[13:06] <Helenah> jocic: Depends what you mean by fake wifi interface
[13:07] <Helenah> You could plug a wifi AP into your nick, and configure it to connect to an AP for a net connection
[13:07] <Helenah> *nic
[13:07] <Mr-Potter> In other words how I do reinstall grub and get it to pick up my Windows installation and Linux distro?
[13:07] <Helenah> But this is physical, it's not pseudo, or virtual
[13:08] <Mr-Potter> Should I reinstall Mint?
[13:08] <kimo> use boot-repair to reinstall grub
[13:08] <jocic> ash_m: Yes. I managed to create a virtual ethernet with "ip link add veth0 type veth peer name veth1" but is it possible to do the same thing for a wireless interface on a machine without one?
[13:09] <Helenah> I just don't understand the point of a virtual wifi interface, when you can just use veth
[13:09] <EriC^^> Mr-Potter: boot a live usb and reinstall grub to the mbr
[13:09] <Mr-Potter> EriC^^: Thanks
[13:09] <Helenah> Please, enlightenment
[13:09] <Helenah> me
[13:09] <EriC^^> Mr-Potter: https://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[13:12] <jocic> Basically, I need a wireless interface on several machines for people to play with wireless-tools package.
[13:13] <jocic> And I would like to avoid buying 10 wi-fi adapters.
[13:14] <memphisto> jocic: moraces da kupis 10 wifi adaptera; kako ces da trazis wifi mreze i konektujes se na njih ako je virtualni interface
[13:15] <Helenah> jocic: Are you a tutor?
[13:15] <jocic> It's probably not possible, but I wanted to ask just in case someone knows.
[13:15] <Helenah> If so, then I've been enlightened.
[13:15] <TJ-> jocic: as far as I'm aware the 'iw' tool can only create /additional/ virtual interfaces on a real wireless interface. I don't think there's an 'emulated' option
[13:15] <Helenah> However, I've never done it myself, nor have I seen solutions which encorporate it.
[13:16] <Helenah> jocic: TP-Link do the cheapest routers
[13:16] <Helenah> If you wanna bunch of em as throwaway educational toys.
[13:16] <jocic> Bah, alright. Thanks guys, you've been very helpful!
[13:16] <Helenah> I picked a model up for £16
[13:16] <Helenah> cheaper than the pi
[13:17] <memphisto> jocic: ima 2 wifi usb adapetera za pozajmicu
[13:17] <Helenah> However, if you still don't wanna spend cash, then I don't know what to suggest.
[13:17] <TJ-> jocic: however, you /can/ use the kernel module mac80211_hwsim to create a simulated interface
[13:17] <Helenah> TJ-: Really?
[13:17] <Helenah> Interesting, well thanks for letting me know.
[13:17] <TJ-> jocic: read "modinfo mac80211_hwsim"
[13:18] <TJ-> jocic: in the kernel source, there's the document ./Documentation/networking/mac80211_hwsim/README
[13:18] <jocic> Wow, will do. Thanks TJ, I'll check it out immediately!
[13:19] <Guest54822> Connet
[13:19] <Guest54822> Sorry
[13:19] <Guest54822> Connected Wi-Fi Card Broda
[13:19] <Guest54822> Connected Wi-Fi Card Broadband
[13:19] <TJ-> jocic: here it is on http: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/networking/mac80211_hwsim/README
[13:20] <Helenah> jocic: You should look through the kernel's menuconfig options, I've had a look myself in different kernel versions, there are a lot of very interesting stuff which you wouldn't think the kernel supported.
[13:21] <Helenah> Lots of goodies in there! Have a play around with the Linux kernel in a VM, you'll like it.
[13:22] <noah25> kaniini has invited you to join #litepub
[13:22] <Helenah> On my Ubuntu MATE thin clients, a user can plug a storage medium in, and it mount with MATE, however when they come to eject the disk with MATE, they get permission denied. what is the cause of this?
[13:25] <AbbeyRipstra14> kaniini has invited you to join #litepub
[13:26] <Helenah> Message to all: Invite spam to #litepub is not caused by the litepub community, has nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[13:27] <jocic> This is exactly what I needed. Simply loading the "mac80211_hwsim" module creates two wireless network interfaces.
[13:27] <jocic> And fake AP can be created using the hostapd. Wonderful.
[13:27] <elricsfate> Hey all
[13:27] <Guest28594> kaniini has invited you to join #litepub
[13:27] <TJ-> jocic: glad you got it sorted
[13:27] <elricsfate> Will someone with a working Nvidia Optimus setup using Proprietary drivers mind sharing the output of the following command?
[13:28] <elricsfate> cat /etc/alternatives/i386-linux-gnu_egl_conf | nc termbin 9999 && cat /etc/alternatives/i386-linux-gnu_gl_conf | nc termbin 9999 && cat /etc/alternatives/x86_64-linux-gnu_egl_conf | nc termbin 9999 && cat /etc/alternatives/x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf | nc termbin 9999
[13:28] <elricsfate> TL;DR I screwed up my alternatives and I'm trying to fix them
[13:28] <elricsfate> I removed mesa at one point trying to get everything working and while it is mostly working, I seem to be having some strange graphical glitches occasionally and certain things in KDE aren't appearing (Like my profile photo on the login page)
[13:28] <elricsfate> Would greatly appreciate it
[13:28] <Helenah> Guys? may I recommend channel mode +r for now?
[13:29] <Helenah> This will prevent unregistered people from joining, often spammers don't register.
[13:29] <Helenah> and it's temporarily added to the channel modes, then removed later on.
[13:29] <elricsfate> That's a good idea Helenah. I logged into my client today and found I had about 300-400 spam messages
[13:30] <sveinse> elricsfate: I'm running nvidia properitary drivers on a hybrid graphics laptop. how do I know if I'm running optimus or not?
[13:30] <elricsfate> You definitely are
[13:30] <elricsfate> That setup is optimus (Dual GPU on laptop) sveinse
[13:30] <Helenah> and the litepub community is being burdoned by people joining just to question them about the spammers. It is not fair on them, now I'm not suggesting that the spam is only happening in the Ubuntu community, however it is a problem which this channel could easily sort out for themselves.
[13:31] <sveinse> elricsfate: because I don't have any of the files you listed on my 18.04 system
[13:31] <elricsfate> Fack
[13:31] <elricsfate> I'm on 16.04
[13:31] <elricsfate> So that might be it
[13:31] <leftyfb> Helenah: feel free to discuss it in #ubuntu-ops
[13:31] <elricsfate> Does that entire path not exist or just those particular files?
[13:32] <sveinse> elricsfate: uhm, /etc/alterntivates/ exists yes. But not the given conf files
[13:32] <elricsfate> Mind pasting the output of ls /etc/alternatives/*egl*
[13:32] <elricsfate> maybe it's under a slightly different name
[13:33] <elricsfate> I honestly may just spin up a virtual machine and recreate everything to see what it has there
[13:33] <sveinse> Btw, I've had pain up to my neck with optimus AND being on a laptop on the move (= changing displays). After I installed 18.04, all this has gone away more or less
[13:34] <sveinse> elricsfate: no match to *egl* in /etc/alternatives
[13:34] <elricsfate> Gotcha, thanks sveinse
[13:34] <elricsfate> Is 18.04 currently LTS?
[13:34] <Helenah> elricsfate: anything with .04 is an LTS release
[13:34] <trobotham17> kaniini has invited you to join #litepub
[13:34] <sveinse> yes
[13:35] <hateball> Helenah: that's not true, for instance 17.04 is EOL and not an LTS
[13:36] <Elisha> even number year is a LTS release :P
[13:36] <betawaffle8> kaniini has invited you to join #litepub
[13:36] <Helenah> Elisha, hateball, that I didn't know.
[13:37] <Helenah> and I thought I knew
[13:37] <Helenah> My apologies
[13:38] <JimBuntu> yeah, .04 only means released in April.
[13:38] <hateball> Helenah: LTS are released in april every 2 years
[13:38] <Helenah> I knew that for defo, JimBuntu
[13:39] <Helenah> Aaaah
[13:39] <JimBuntu> To be clear, that's the roadmap... which has been deviated from before.
[13:39] <Helenah> Okay, I'll remember that for next.
[13:39] <hateball> JimBuntu: well true, there's 6.06 :p
[13:41] <JimBuntu> Yeah, I think this is party why they gave themselves so much time difference between LTS and only do the flavors for 3 years
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[14:02] <lenovo_> dsggretrt
[14:02] <lenovo_> asdf
[14:02] <lenovo_> my btbegv
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[14:09] <zzarr> I have a server running Ubuntu server 16.04.5 LTS, when I run do-release-upgrade it don't find any new release
[14:09] <maksim> test
[14:09] <zzarr> I have all the latest packages installed
[14:10] <waldner> leftyfb: using "d-i apt-setup/no_mirror boolean true" and "d-i apt-setup/use_mirror boolean false" seems to help, thanks.
[14:10] <waldner> you got me on the right track
[14:10] <zzarr> maksim, your test was successful
[14:11] <tomreyn> zzarr: LTS upgrades to 18.04 are not supported, yet. I read soemwhere that it *may* be enabled during the coming week
[14:11] <mdlpe> hi, I use this : $ find . -not -path '*/\.*' -newer dateref to get all the files modified after the date of dateref and I get this result : http://paste.debian.net/1037421/ Looks good
[14:12] <zzarr> tomreyn, okey, that explains why it's not working
[14:12] <zzarr> I read that it should have been released 23 july
[14:14] <mdlpe> but if : $ find . -not -path '*/\.*' -newer dateref | tar cvf test.tar -T - it doesn't work : http://paste.debian.net/1037422/ why ?
[14:16] <m2> jaindr0n3 ||  -----BEGIN PUBLIC KEY-----
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[14:18] <tomreyn> zzarr: where did you read this?
[14:23] <JimBuntu> tomreyn, point release Aug 2nd, 0.1 on July 26th - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> zzarr: you want to upgrade to bionic?
[14:27] <qwebirc92953> having trouble installing ubuntu as the installer lacks network drivers for my system.  wifi is the only network i have to use and no drivers seem to be present.
[14:28] <qwebirc92953> how can i bootstrap needed wifi drivers into the installer?
[14:28] <acheronuk> qwebirc92953: people will need to know what wifi drives/card
[14:28] <qwebirc92953> note, for other reasons im using the mini iso installer
[14:30] <qwebirc92953> @acheronuk can I find that my wifi hardware in windows somewhere?
[14:32] <qwebirc92953> ok ac7260 intel dual band wireless
[14:32] <qwebirc92953> need drivers for that within the installer
[14:42] <craigbass76> Is there some weird trick to mounting an LVM? I'm trying to get stuff off a drive that has Fedora on it.
[14:43] <yeats> craigbass76: look for /dev/<volumegroup>/<volume>
[14:43] <yeats> craigbass76: e.g. /dev/fedora_<hostname>/home
[14:44] <yeats> craigbass76: might also be under /dev/mapper somewhere
[14:46] <craigbass76> it's /dev/sdb2
[14:50] <craigbass76> yeats, I was missing some steps... I see fedora now in /dev/ after running vgchange and lvscan
[15:22] <craigbass76> Is it possible to mount up private dropbox folders somehow? I don't want the syncing and chewing up hard drive space on my end
[15:24] <H7R> craigbass76 : no, it is not created to do so ...
[15:25] <leftyfb> craigbass76: you can set which folders get synced in the settings for dropbox
[15:25] <H7R> craigbass77 it is not intented to let your HHD free of charge !
[15:26] <kyle__> craigbass76: There might be a fuse-mount for it, but most of those cache the entire object(s) locally to facility seeking
[15:26] <craigbass76> leftyfb, Right, but I have to keep subscribing and unsubscribing (depending on whose files I need to get at) and I'd rather a process like sshfs.
[15:26] <leftyfb> craigbass76: use the web interface
[15:26] <H7R> craigbass76 I suggest you use github instead
[15:27] <craigbass76> :( Not my call.
[15:27] <H7R> craigbass76 it let you choose what you want to retrive and nothing else
[15:28] <azizLIGHT> on newer ubuntus, how do kernel updates work? lets say i install ubuntu 18.04 lts, can u expect kernel updates forever for the 5 years its supported? will they be recent versions or just security updates to an old base kernel version
[15:29] <leftyfb> !hwe | azizLIGHT
[15:29] <H7R> azizLIGHT : On LTS you have a separate deposit that send you only stable and LTS labeled releases.
[15:30] <azizLIGHT> sep deposit?
[15:30] <azizLIGHT> leftyfb: is this something thats done by default for the user, or an option
[15:30] <H7R> update repository
[15:31] <H7R>  *update repository server ...
[15:31] <pragmaticenigma> H7R: Please stop, you're providing incomplete answers without consideration of the situation.
[15:32] <H7R> pragmaticenigma : no one is perfect I try what
[15:32] <H7R> I can
[15:33] <pragmaticenigma> azizLIGHT: All software is made available and updated for the support life cycle of the release. Kernel updates are provided, however, they are not bleeding edge. Security fixes are applied to the current kernel. You can enable HWE kernels, following the instructions from ubottu, which release update your machine with the latest support kernel from Ubuntu.
[15:33] <H7R> pragmaticenigma : you don't take care of the knowledge of basic people ... I learn while i help too !
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[15:33] <pragmaticenigma> azizLIGHT: It is rare that you will need to enable HWE unless there is a specific feature in a newer kernel release you desire. All kernel security patches are applied in a timely fashion
[15:34] <pragmaticenigma> across all support releases of Ubuntu
[15:34] <Sven_vB> what's a good program to prefix each line my command outputs with a timestamp?
[15:35] <H7R> Sven_vb look your .bashrc
[15:36] <Sven_vB> found ts
[15:36] <Sven_vB> thanks
[15:37] <azizLIGHT> pragmaticenigma: when you say 'release update' do you mean going from, example, 16.04 with kernel 4.4 to ubuntu 16.04.2 with kernel 4.8 ?
[15:37] <azizLIGHT> is that because of hwe or just a result of updating things regularly
[15:38] <H7R> Sven_vB : this don't prefix all your command lines by a timestam ... just executed ones ...
[15:38] <Sven_vB> H7R, yeah, I wasn't clear in my question. I meant to prefix the output of my command. I think you meant to edit $PS1 etc
[15:40] <H7R> Sven_vB : ok nevermind ...
[15:40] <pragmaticenigma> Sven_vB: You can follow this article on changing the format of your prompt to include a timestamp. https://bneijt.nl/blog/post/add-a-timestamp-to-your-bash-prompt/
[15:40] <azizLIGHT> pragmaticenigma: so most people dont enable hwe, and with 18.04 will remain on kernel 4.15 for 5 years?
[15:40] <Sven_vB> pragmaticenigma, thanks!
[15:41] <pragmaticenigma> Sven_vB: One thing to consider, the timestamp will only reflect the value when it was displayed to the screen, to get current time press enter on a blank prompt
[15:41] <pragmaticenigma> azizLIGHT: No
[15:41] <Sven_vB> pragmaticenigma, yeah I thought so.
[15:42] <H7R> pragmaticenigma: thank's I search it for a while for date format ...
[15:42] <azizLIGHT> not sure what part youre saying no to
[15:42] <azizLIGHT> im on ubuntu 14.04 and still on kernel 3.13 at the moment
[15:43] <azizLIGHT> im trying to see if thats how it will be on newer releases, without doing hwe, will one be using the same kernel (but with security updates) for 5 years
[15:44] <pragmaticenigma> azizLIGHT: HWE is an update channel that can be enabled that would enable 14.04 to have the latest kernel that has been built and tested with 14.04. It usually is the same as the kernel offered in the latest release of Ubuntu, but it might not
[15:46] <azizLIGHT> yes, this is how it is on 14.04, is that how it is on 18.04 as well? in 2021, will a person who installed 18.04 still be using kernel 4.15 instead of whatever kernel that might be out then in the future, if they elected to not use hwe
[15:46] <azizLIGHT> i thought this model was changing
[15:46] <pragmaticenigma> !hwe | azizLIGHT: read through these links, they are better at answering your question:
[15:46] <azizLIGHT> thats why im asking
[15:47] <azizLIGHT> if 16.04 on that link is anything to go by, then yes thats what it seems like
[15:49] <azizLIGHT> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Kernel.2FSupport.A16.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support has a person on original 16.04 on kernel 4.4 for 5 years, and then no change in kernel version during that time, unless they did hwe, which is what i assume the point release 16.04.2 is how you get kernel 4.8
[15:49] <azizLIGHT> does a point release necessarily mean someone did hwe?
[15:50] <oerheks> point release is 16.04.1 16.04.2 and so on, not related to HWE
[15:50] <pragmaticenigma> azizLIGHT: no, security patches are backported to older support kernels. The kernel that was released with Ubuntu 14.04 has had all security patches released for it
[15:51] <yuken> Created a new netplan config on 18.04.1, and now my NIC is listed as being down and I ain't getting an IP, wot
[15:51] <yuken> a static setup
[15:51] <pragmaticenigma> azizLIGHT: and going to into version numbers gets real difficult ... really fast
[15:52] <yuken> netplan debug says everythings good to go though.
[15:54] <oerheks> yuken, pastebin your netplan yaml perhaps on paste.ubuntu.com to let us see?
[15:54] <Fede_26> Hello at all
[15:54] <yuken> ... I'm sorry oerheks, I'm just stupid because I've been awake for waaaay too long. I was setting ens4p0 in my plan, when my interface is enp4s0...
[15:54] <yuken> ooooopsie.
[15:54] <yuken> Had that issue for a damn hour and only jsust figured it out
[15:55] <oerheks> :-)
[15:55] <oerheks> good find
[15:56] <yuken> Though, it appears on Ubuntu Server 18.04.1, a lot of packages are... unable to be found? Like python-pip.
[15:58] <oerheks> !info python-pip
[15:58] <oerheks> it is in universe
[15:59] <tomreyn> i think there's a bug affecting ubuntu server 18.04.1 where only the 'main' component of apt repositories is enabled by default
[16:00] <yuken> Ah, that was it, tomreyn - thanks.
[16:01] <oerheks> tomreyn, thanks, noted.
[16:01] <tomreyn> cant seem to find the bug report unfortunately
[16:02] <tomreyn> got it: bug 1783129
[16:06] <Pr070cal> hi guys is there a channel for blu ray authoring
[16:07] <Pr070cal> how can i shrink a set of videos to fit on 25GB
[16:08] <yuken> There might be an ffmpeg or handbrake channel on freenode? maybe.
[16:08] <Pr070cal> i want to specify the size of the disc and batch transcode all the videos according to that size like dvdshrink
[16:09] <Stormmore> well that is nice, my git clone from git.launchpad.net that had being going for 24 hours failed! "fatal: index-pack failed"!
[16:17] <phaze75> hi there
[16:17] <dfgg27> kaniini has invited you to join #litepub
[16:17] <phaze75> am i mistaken or is there still no 18.04.1 do-release-upgrade enabled?
[16:19] <leftyfb> phaze75: you are not mistaken
[16:19] <leftyfb> phaze75: they are still working on a pretty critical bug
[16:20] <phaze75> leftyfb: ok, thanks. i read that some used the -d option. i will not. ;-)
[16:23] <pizzadude> leftyfb , can you link the bug? im curious
[16:27] <pineapplelover> hello
[16:33] <texla> Ubuntu 18.04.1 When I open gparted the following comment appears(Unit -.mount does not exist, proceeding anyway.
[16:33] <texla> ) How do I correct?
[16:34] <leftyfb> pizzadude: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-menus/+bug/1766890
[16:34] <CoolerZ> is there any way to just reset the bluetooth drivers or something?
[16:34] <CoolerZ> something is totally screwed up
[16:35] <CoolerZ> well i connect my headphones it makes by bluetooth mouse very laggy
[16:35] <leftyfb> CoolerZ: sudo rmmod bluetooth ; sudo modprobe bluetooth
[16:35] <pineapplelover> hello
[16:35] <leftyfb> CoolerZ: or reboot
[16:35] <CoolerZ> and it stabilizes after a while, but if i open a new window or app then it becomes laggy for another 2 minutes
[16:35] <leftyfb> pineapplelover: hi. What can we do for you?
[16:35] <CoolerZ> leftyfb, i mean like reinstall
[16:36] <CoolerZ> also my headphones' audio profile in blueman keeps switching to off after a few minutes of not playing any sound
[16:36] <CoolerZ> so if i start playing a song or something after a while it goes to the laptop speakers instead
[16:36] <CoolerZ> a whole bunch of weird behaviours like taht
[16:36] <CoolerZ> that*
[16:37] <huhlig15> kaniini has invited you to join #litepub
[16:39] <CoolerZ> so anyone got any ideas?
[16:42] <texla>  Ubuntu 18.04.1 When I open gparted the following comment appears(Unit -.mount does not exist, proceeding anyway.) How do I correct?
[16:45] <CoolerZ> leftyfb, ?
[16:46] <franky> Hi
[16:46] <franky> is someone here?
[16:46] <gnome_user_4958> no
[16:46] <franky> haha
[16:48] <BootScout> I ve been using dual boot for a while now
[16:48] <BootScout> I had Kubuntu on a 500 Gb hdd and windows on another 500 Gb hdd but I started to lack disk space on both so I bought a new WesternDigital 2Tb hdd
[16:48] <BootScout> then I used this tutorial:
[16:48] <BootScout> https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/19141/clone-a-hard-drive-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/
[16:48] <BootScout>  ...to clone windows to the new 2Tb disk and later I also cloned kubuntu /home partition to the new 2Tb disk, I did it from the Kubuntu system not from a live cd. and the kubuntu system still stands on the same old 500 Gb hdd. it all went ok (the old windows 500 hdd is unalocated  space now) since yesterday when I tried to boot windows from the grub menu and the 0cx000000e error appears. I followed this tutorial:
[16:48] <BootScout> http://www.screwloose.com.au/windows-10-bootrec-the-requested-system-device-cannot-be-found
[16:55] <pragmaticenigma> BootScout: your messages were cut off by the channel monitor bots, try to avoid using enter for punctuation.
[16:56] <BootScout> pragmaticen do I need to post it again?
[16:57] <pragmaticenigma> BootScout: Your issue appears to be a Windows problem, as Kubuntu appears to be working. This channel can only help with Ubuntu related problems. You may find assistance in ##windows
[16:58] <BootScout> pragmaticen it is not. I used kubuntu to clone windows and I think it is a grub config issue
[16:58] <pragmaticenigma> BootScout: The error code you posted is a Microsoft error code, not issued by Grub or Ubuntu
[16:59] <BootScout> common partition table is msdos and both systems use it
[17:00] <pragmaticenigma> BootScout: Does the error message look like the following image? https://i0.wp.com/neosmart.net/wiki/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2016/04/0xc000000e_Vista_Win7_Error_Screen.png?w=1024&ssl=1
[17:01] <BootScout> no
[17:01] <BootScout> it is a windows 10 blue screen
[17:01]  * Mr-Potter suggests ##windows
[17:01] <pragmaticenigma> BootScout: That means this is a Windows problem... Grub handed booting off to the windows partition, Windows is having a problem
[17:02] <BootScout> might not be possible that...after the cloning grub config still tells the menu to search for the efi partition on the old hdd?
[17:02] <pragmaticenigma> BootScout: I'm very familiar with that boot code, though this is not the correct channel to support it. You can try ##windows
[17:04] <pragmaticenigma> BootScout: I'm only going to offer this, Grub was able to locate the Windows partition. When user selects Windows partition, Grub hands off the boot to the Windows Boot loader. The Windows Boot Loader cannot find the windows installation, because the WINDOWS install location was moved. This is a Window problem and you need to seek help from the Windows community.
[17:05] <BootScout> thankyou
[17:14] <neildugan> Hello, I have a SSH VPN setup is there anyway I can rate limit the bandwidth this uses?
[17:15] <leftyfb> neildugan: what is an SSH VPN? Do you mean an SSH tunnel/proxy?
[17:21] <H7R> BoyScout : normally you have to say to windows bootloader where to find windows system ...
[17:21] <leftyfb> H7R: you can help him in ##windows
[17:22] <H7R> Boyscout : normally if you plan to install windows/linux dual boot you have to install linux first, it's more easyer to install windows later ...
[17:23] <leftyfb> H7R: that is pretty wrong information
[17:23] <H7R> leftyfb : please let me breathe ...
[17:24] <H7R> leftyfb : okay tell us how so ... if you are so smart ...
[17:24] <H7R> leftyfb you don't want answer so please don't do ...
[17:25] <leftyfb> H7R: Ubuntu has the ability to resize storage to make room for itself and then adds Windows installs to it's GRUB menu. While Windows doesn't know what to do with Ubuntu partitions and wants to just wipe them and not look back. The Windows boot loader will not add Ubuntu to any boot menu.
[17:25] <oerheks> windows issue, boring
[17:25] <H7R> leftyfb : I KNOW about that but each time i tryed i had to reconfigure the windows bootloader
[17:26] <leftyfb> An Ubuntu install will literally make room for itself and preserve and work alongside Windows all in one install and boot. Windows requires Fixing your GRUB install after using some other utility to make room for itself.
[17:26] <H7R> oerheks : yep but not unsolvable ...
[17:27] <H7R> leftyfb : that why i had to reconfigure the windows bootloader
[17:29] <H7R> leftyfb : since the resizing tool change the HDD windows have to handle these changes, unfortunately windows sucks about that so the user have to handle it ...
[17:38] <H7R> leftyfb: of course you cannot launch linux throug windows bootloader, of course you have to add windows launch in grub, but windows doesn't work well after a window's partition resizement... So the user have to handle this problem and why it's better to install windows later for the user ...
[17:41] <leftyfb> H7R: In my experience, I've never had to do any sort of recovery for Windows to boot after installing Ubuntu dual boot
[17:41] <_dev> Hey all. Is there anyway that I can set a pam module to only be invoked if it hasn't been successful in the past 5 minutes or so?
[17:49] <H7R> leftyby : apparently you didn't installed a dual boot with post windows XP  :)
[17:52] <pragmaticenigma> _dev: would you be able to narrow the scope of your question to what you are experiencing and would like to see happen?
[17:53] <_dev> pragmaticenigma: I have a pam_module that does 2FA. If someone successfully authenticates, I'd like them to not be prompted to authenticate as long as their last successful session was within 5 minutes ago
[17:55] <pragmaticenigma> _dev:  so something like an expiring auth token?
[17:56] <_dev> pragmaticenigma: yes! i think so.
[17:56] <pragmaticenigma> _dev: emulating how "sudo" doesn't require reentry of the password for each successive command?
[17:56] <_dev> Yes. Exactly.
[17:56] <_dev> a sudo ticket.
[18:00] <muhammad> hey
[18:01] <muhammad> join daisy
[18:01] <muhammad> hello
[18:02] <jcdutton> _dev, If they have successfully authenticated, why do they need to authenticate again?
[18:03] <hurvajz-lubu> hi everybody
[18:05] <hurvajz-lubu> i need small help, is there anybody?
[18:05] <gdibass> dont ask to ask, just ask your question
[18:06] <vfw> hurvajz-lubu: In other words, there are many bodies.
[18:07] <hurvajz-lubu> need to install deb package but it have dependecies
[18:07] <pragmaticenigma> _dev: I'm not seeing anything with a general search for pam_module. I would have to think that the module itself needs to support that feature, I don't think it is a global setting for it
[18:08] <pragmaticenigma> jcdutton: If they are remote, the end user may be attempt to start multiple ssh sessions
[18:09] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | hurvajz-lubu
[18:09] <pragmaticenigma> !details | hurvajz-lubu
[18:09] <oerheks> hurvajz-lubu, install the deb, and run apt update -f # to get dependencies
[18:10] <hurvajz-lubu> oerheks thanx
[18:14] <jcdutton> pragmaticenigma, but that use case is already handled. ssh with ssh-agent keys.
[18:20] <pragmaticenigma> jcdutton: I have not been able to start an ssh session from one terminal, switch to another terminal and start another ssh session without having to reenter my credentials
[18:25] <craigbass76> I've thrown some fonts into /usr/share/fonts, now how do I make the apps see them?
[18:27] <JimBuntu> craigbass76, you may want to try sudo fc-cache -vf, so a new cache list is built
[18:28] <oerheks> craigbass76, rescan the fonts: sudo fc-cache -fv >>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/3697/how-do-i-install-fonts
[18:28] <JimBuntu> craigbass76, afair, I had simply dropped new fonts in ~/.fonts and they became available to apps started after that time.
[18:28] <oerheks> ah, jim is faster
[18:28] <craigbass76> I was trying to make them system-wide.
[18:29] <JimBuntu> oerheks, I think it's often simply down to who looked at IRC at the right moment
[18:30] <craigbass76> Weird. Looks like it took, but Writer's not seeing them
[18:32] <oerheks> restart writer?
[18:32] <craigbass76> Mousepad is though, so it must be a LibreOffice cache thing at this point.
[18:32] <oerheks> or maybe LO has this preload thingy, logout/login and see again?
[18:32] <craigbass76> oerheks, Duh... I thought I'd shut the Writer window...
[18:33] <craigbass76> There they are... Beautimus.
[18:33] <oerheks> :-)
[18:39] <theseb> help! apt-get update stopped working...it just says "Reading package lists... Done" w/ no error msgs
[18:39] <theseb> usually i see lots of lines of text
[18:39] <theseb> why isn't it doing anything?
[18:39] <theseb>  
[18:39] <theseb> ERC> aptitude update just gives a blank line?!
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[18:57] <mort> it _is_ actually really fucking annoying that usually when I run apt commands, the auto update checker is locking the dpkg database
[18:58] <oerheks> mort, lolz ( laughing at your language)
[18:59] <mort> sorry about that
[18:59] <frank> anybody there
[19:00] <mort> and I know you could disable automatic updates, but it seems unnecessary to lock the user out of their system while checking if there are upgrades abailable
[19:05] <theseb> mort: talking to me? does automatic updates cause my problem?
[19:06] <pie3> hi
[19:07] <mort> theseb: no, it's a completely separate annoyance
[19:07] <theseb> k
[19:11] <brainwash> mort: is that really an annoyance? I mean how long does it take apt to check for updates?
[19:13] <cob> hi all, is there a channel specific for packaging help?
[19:14] <cob> bumping into an issue with the tutorial http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html
[19:14] <mort> brainwash: long enough that most of the time when I boot my computer and immediately run apt commands, I end up having to wait for the completely invisible background process to complete
[19:16] <brainwash> mort: that may be true. the apt timer will run on the next boot if it wasn't able to run on time previously.
[19:20] <brainwash> cob: maybe #ubuntu-motu
[19:20] <cob> thanks brainwash, found #ubuntu-packaging
[19:20] <brainwash> cob: there you should find the ubuntu package maintainers
[19:20] <brainwash> ah ok
[19:28] <pathfinder0> kaniini has invited you to join #litepub
[19:29] <Stormmore> when did spamming channel invites become a problem? First time I saw this was yesterday but it has been a little bit since I last signed on!
[19:31] <spook1> Why would anyone want to use Windows after using Ubuntu ? There is no contest.
[19:34] <Stormmore> spook1, one word... games!
[19:38] <capella> Windows has always felt more tight / crispier UI wise, and their code is integrated overall better ... the latest 18.04 however is hugely better
[19:40] <capella> They're corp! Their solution is top down integration, and O-S *nix is design by committee
[19:40] <Code_Red14> kaniini has invited you to join #litepub
[19:41] <BootScout> EriC^: hello could you help me now to restore boot?
[19:42] <spook1> I am on 18.04 and finding it very good, I would definitely never go back to windows. I don't do games anyway so I can't comment on that.
[19:43] <cob> linux is like working on your carby motorcycle regardless
[19:44] <eastjava1241> hello bujang
[19:45] <spook1> I messed that up.
[19:45] <eastjava1241> hello bujang
[19:45] <eastjava1241> '-'
[19:45] <jtrucks> is there a way to download just the gnome desktop and prereq packages?
[19:46] <jtrucks> I have a server install and need to add gnome, but the server can't be online so I have to sideload from flash drive or copying to the machine from my laptop.
[19:47] <Crandall> Anyone know if there's a working Xbox One Wireless Adapter driver for Ubuntu yet?
[19:48] <jtrucks> also, I can't figure out where to find instructions on enabling a USB ethernet interface so I acn read span port data. any references someone can point me to?
[20:02] <bluesmonk> I recently moved / and /home to an ssd, and set my older hdd to store misc data
[20:02] <bluesmonk> now everytime I want to access it, nautilus asks for permissions
[20:03] <bluesmonk> and in general I think there is a permissions issue with it, i.e. I have a gdrive client that can't use that drive for a sync folder
[20:03] <bluesmonk> Is this expected behaviour?
[20:08] <bluesmonk> should I change permissions on the drive? do something different? I've seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[20:09] <bluesmonk> but it then suggests reading/using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingUUID which doesn't explain anything
[20:09] <hggdh> bluesmonk: / is the system folder. Moving it around must be done very carefully. I am gussing you did not quite do it right
[20:10] <bluesmonk> hggdh: with moved I meant I installed a fresh version of 18.04 in the ssd
[20:10] <bluesmonk> set two partitions there, / and /home
[20:10] <bluesmonk> and a /pgdata
[20:10] <steel> Hey, can you help me with this grub error when booting ubuntu: https://goo.gl/z1CzhJ ?
[20:11] <hggdh> steel: yes, of course.
[20:11] <steel> Thanks
[20:11] <steel> How?
[20:12] <bluesmonk> is this 2004?
[20:12] <hggdh> bluesmonk: ?
[20:13] <bluesmonk> for the video. I mean
[20:13] <hggdh> bluesmonk: just spam, ignore
[20:13] <bluesmonk> sure
[20:14] <hggdh> bluesmonk: so you installed a new system on the SSD. What did you do with /home?
[20:15] <bluesmonk> a new partition of the ssd, mounted in /home. That's okay actually and it's not part of my problem. I was trying to give some context
[20:16] <hggdh> bluesmonk: so the problem is now with the old hard drive?
[20:16] <bluesmonk> I set my old hd as a single ext4 volume for storing data
[20:16] <bluesmonk> like, normal data
[20:16] <hggdh> k
[20:16] <hggdh> bluesmonk: it has to have a mount point, and it has to be owned by some id. Is it the same id you use for login?
[20:16] <bluesmonk> and when I access the volume with nautilus it asks for my password
[20:17] <hggdh> bluesmonk: or, did you encrypt the filesystem?
[20:17] <bluesmonk> nope, nothing fancy. launched the fdisk GUI, went to sdb1, wipe everything, create single partition
[20:18] <bluesmonk> ext4
[20:18] <bluesmonk> named it "foo"
[20:18] <hggdh> so, who owns it?
[20:18] <hggdh> and, even better, it is mounted?
[20:18] <bluesmonk> yes it is mounted
[20:19] <hggdh> and who owns it?
[20:19] <bluesmonk> permissions says: "Me".
[20:19] <bluesmonk> I'm not fond of the terminal commands for these tasks actually
[20:19] <hggdh> bluesmonk: run a ls -la on the mountpoint, and pastebin the output
[20:19] <bluesmonk> I'm seeing what is being displayed in nautilus->properties
[20:20] <hggdh> bluesmonk: unfortunately we will have to go terminal
[20:20] <bluesmonk> oka
[20:20] <bluesmonk> no problem, I was expecting that kind of help
[20:20] <bluesmonk> give me one sec
[20:21] <ice9> if i will install ubuntu on manually configured lvm/luks partition, how can i configure the initrd to unlock the encrypted volume during boot?
[20:22] <hggdh> ice9: I am not sure, but I do not think you can. It sort of defeats needing encryption
[20:26] <bluesmonk> hggdh: https://bpaste.net/show/c5f75e16e898
[20:28] <bluesmonk> and that would be a level above https://bpaste.net/show/7f4f84bc77aa
[20:28] <bratchley> does "apt-mark hold" prevent a package from being updated or does it just stop it from being automatically updated?
[20:31] <tomreyn> ice9: you mean how to update the initrd's configuration so that it will prompt for the passphrase?
[20:31] <tomreyn> ice9: or are you asking how to configure it to decrypt fully automatically?
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[20:38] <eelstrebor> i was wondering why network manager doesn't create a config file for openvpn in bionic - apparently systemd in bionic looks for an openvpn  config  file in /etc/openvpn/client which doesn't exist even though i configured openvpn with network manager
[20:38] <eelstrebor> consequently, openvpn doesn't autostart
[20:39] <bluesmonk> hggdh: should sudo chown -R bluesmonk:bluesmonk /media/bluesmonk/data/ be enough?
[20:39] <eelstrebor> it's been reported as a bug but i don't like the workaround
[20:40] <ice9> tomreyn, to ask for the passphrase
[20:40] <eelstrebor> the workaround shouldn't have been necessary (but it is)
[20:41] <bluesmonk> hggdh: it did
[20:41] <duckgoose7> kaniini has invited you to join #litepub
[20:41] <bluesmonk> lol thanks
[20:44] <wendico> hello there
[20:45] <tomreyn> ice9: you just configure everything as it would be on the final installation, such as /etc/crypttab, lvm.conf, /etc/fstab, make sure you have a working kernel and grub installed on the right devices, then update-initramfs -k all -c.
[20:46] <wendico> excuse my oftopic cuestion, i try to talk to #ubuntu-server channel but i get cannot send to channel error, any hint please? im on ubuntu pidgin. thank you very much
[20:46] <tomreyn> hello wendico
[20:46] <tomreyn> !register | wendico
[20:46] <wendico> hey tomreyn, glad to see you my mentor
[20:47] <wendico> following to register
[20:47] <tomreyn> hehe, thats not a designation for life
[20:47] <wendico> i tryed to say hello on ubuntu server
[20:47] <wendico> i wrotted so much i love u tomreyn bla bla bla, my server is up bla bla bla, then get, cannot send to channel hehehe
[20:48] <wendico> but take that as saying it again hehe^^
[20:48] <tomreyn> appreciated.
[20:49] <wendico> excuse me, the "Type « /msg nickserv register passw.... bla bla" command to register, should i do here in chat or in console? ty
[20:53] <xamithanx> Thats not really a ubuntu question
[20:54] <wendico> all right, sorry old man here, keeping on topic no on
[20:55] <tomreyn> wendico: better handle anything involving passwords on the console window. and consider using a proper irc client (pidgin is not IMO). any further assistence with irc may be available in #freenode
[20:56] <wendico> ok i may be offtopic but FOR UBUNTU, what is a proper irc client. Thanks tomreyn, im always happy to learn from u
[20:57] <xamithanx> hexchat is pretty easy if you want a GUI
[20:58] <eelstrebor> and there's no indicator to show the vpn is active
[21:00] <tomreyn> wendico: if you're looking for airc client for ubuntu,a nd a GUI one, then hexchat can be a good choice, yes. but you may be looking for one for a different OS, in which case this is indeed not the right channel to get support with it.
[21:02] <wendico> exactly, ty tomreyn u know my situation, but the answer also helps, so installing hexchat here on my new ubuntu desktop and trying to register my nick so we can talk in the right channel
[21:02] <wendico> i guess im on the right path i just take so long..... age....
[21:07] <wendico> hola
[21:34] <dynhozito> hi all
[21:35] <ice9> if i installed ubuntu on manually partitioned lvm/luks, how can i make it prompt for the passphrase during boot?
[21:36] <dynhozito> heyy
[21:36] <xamithanx> Well if you set it up correctly it'll prompt to unlock
[21:37] <Tin_man> I think that's what he was asking.
[21:40] <xamithanx> You need to add the lines to /etc/crypttab then put whatever you named it as in fstab
[21:42] <ice9> xamithanx, i add the crypttab but it still doesn't prompt for it
[21:42] <xamithanx> I know this guide is arch but it should all be the same: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/System_configuration#Mounting_at_boot_time
[21:43] <xamithanx> See if you missed an option somewhere,  or didn't add a timeout
[21:44] <ice9> i have arch working with luks/lvm, i tried the same thing but with ubuntu and it didn't work
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[21:45] <qwebirc74976> Hi! I am experimenting problems using a liveUSB of Ubuntu to install 18.04lts. The computer keeps telling please insert a bootable device after selecting the usb peripheral in boot menu. Anyone could investigate that issue with me by any chance?
[21:52] <qwebirc74976> What could cause Ubuntu 18.04 liveUSB not to be recognized as a bootable device by computer?
[21:53] <xamithanx> bad iso,  bad iso burn procedure,  bad usb, usb being labeled as fixed disk not removable,  wrong partition type,  no syslinux files on usb.  Really too many things to list
[21:54] <xamithanx> Oh and also secure boot option enabled when it should be disabled
[21:56] <sirensari2> also windows fast boot or w/e it's called
[21:58] <mu11vad3n> If you used some software to create the live usb, sometimes the software is crap and only want to use legacy boot
[21:59] <sirensari2> i like e2b
[21:59] <posied0n> just use the iso file to boot the os
[22:02] <fpghost84> Hi just upgraded to 18.04, but thunderbird now no longer appears to minimize to system tray. Any way I can fix this?
[22:04] <wendico> hello, do you recommend install chrome on my ubuntu 18.04.1 ? And as a new ubuntu user, for home desktop do u suggest any software to install that doesnt come by default? Thank you.
[22:04] <leftyfb> wendico: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:06] <wendico> leftyfb: thank you, following to channel
[22:07] <qwebirc74976> May I install from an ISO on that is in the partition where I would like to install Ubuntu 18.04?
[22:07] <xamithanx> What?
[22:10] <qwebirc74976> Sorry, some words had to be erased. Using the iso to boot the OS, can the iso be on the same SSD drive and partition I will be installing Ubuntu 18.04?
[22:12] <bluesmonk> !logs
[22:12] <xamithanx> I don't believe so
[22:12] <EnglishInfix> That's not going to work. How did you create the USB key you were using before?
[22:13] <qwebirc74976> Ubuntu Startup Disk Creator with a fresh iso download from Ubuntu.com of 18.04.
[22:14] <bluesmonk> qwebirc74976: try etcher.io
[22:15] <lyricsguy> nothing personal but if insect fuck me i dont get back
[22:15] <booooter> despacito
[22:15] <lyricsguy> Ay
[22:15] <lyricsguy> Fonsi
[22:15] <lyricsguy> DY
[22:15] <lyricsguy> Oh
[22:16] <leftyfb> lyricsguy: trolling is offtopic here
[22:17] <b00ter> despacito
[22:17] <lyricsguy_> Ay
[22:17] <lyricsguy_> Fonsi
[22:17] <lyricsguy_> DY
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[22:18] <lyricsguy_> Sí, sabes que ya llevo un rato mirándote
[22:18] <lyricsguy_> Tengo que bailar contigo hoy (DY)
[22:18] <lyricsguy_> Vi que tu mirada ya estaba llamándome
[22:18] <leftyfb> lyricsguy_: please stop
[22:18] <lyricsguy_> 26
[22:18] <lyricsguy_> Muéstrame el camino que yo voy (Oh)
[22:18] <lyricsguy_> Tú, tú eres el imán y yo soy el metal
[22:18] <lyricsguy_> Me voy acercando y voy armando el plan
[22:18] <leftyfb> !op | lyricsguy_
[22:18] <lyricsguy_> Solo con pensarlo se acelera el pulso (Oh yeah)
[22:18] <lyricsguy_> Ya, ya me está gustando más de lo normal
[22:19] <lyricsguy_> Todos mis sentidos van pidiendo más
[22:19] <lyricsguy_> Esto hay que tomarlo sin ningún apuro
[22:19] <lyricsguy_> refrain begin:
[22:19] <lyricsguy_> Despacito
[22:19] <lyricsguy_> Quiero respirar tu cuello despacito
[22:19] <oerheks> lyricsguy_, stop it, thanks
[22:19] <lyricsguy_> Deja que te diga cosas al oído
[22:19] <lyricsguy_> Para que te acuerdes si no estás conmigo
[22:19] <lyricsguy_> Despacit0
[22:19] <lyricsguy_> Quiero desnudarte a besos despacito
[22:19] <lyricsguy_> Firmo en las paredes de tu laberinto
[22:19] <lyricsguy_> Y hacer de tu cuerpo todo un manuscrito (sube, sube, sube)
[22:19] <lyricsguy_> (Sube, sube)
[22:20] <lyricsguy_> Quiero ver bailar tu pelo
[22:20] <lyricsguy_> Quiero ser tu ritmo
[22:20] <lyricsguy_> Que le enseñes a mi boca
[22:20] <lyricsguy_> Tus lugares favoritos (favoritos, favoritos baby)
[22:20] <leftyfb> hggdh: Flannel: ^
[22:20] <lyricsguy_> Déjame sobrepasar tus zonas de peligro
[22:20] <lyricsguy_> Hasta provocar tus gritos
[22:20] <leftyfb> lyricsguy_: cut it out
[22:20] <lyricsguy_> Y que olvides tu apellido
[22:20] <lyricsguy_> refrain end
[22:20] <Prestige> I don't know what's happening
[22:20] <lyricsguy_> Si te pido un beso ven dámelo
[22:20] <lyricsguy_> Yo sé que estás pensándolo
[22:20] <lyricsguy_> Llevo tiempo intentándolo
[22:20] <Prestige> Drone, Sigyn
[22:20] <Prestige> can we get a ban
[22:20] <lyricsguy_> Mami, esto es dando y dándolo
[22:21] <lyricsguy_> Sabes que tu corazón conmigo te hace bom, bom
[22:21] <leftyfb> Prestige: idiot spammers taking advantage of a channel that has pretty dormant ops
[22:21] <lyricsguy_> Sabes que esa beba está buscando de mi bom, bom
[22:21] <b00ter> Lol
[22:21] <lyricsguy_> Ven prueba de mi boca para ver cómo te sabe
[22:21] <lyricsguy_> Quiero, quiero, quiero ver cuánto amor a ti te cabe
[22:21] <b00ter> Rip
[22:21] <lyricsguy_> Yo no tengo prisa, yo me quiero dar el viaje
[22:21] <lyricsguy_> Empecemos lento, después salvaje
[22:21] <lyricsguy_> Pasito a pasito suave suavecito
[22:21] <oerheks> el, are you around?
[22:21] <lyricsguy_> Nos vamos pegando poquito a poquito
[22:21] <Prestige>  /ignore lyricsguy_
[22:21] <theor_> I thought there was a floodbot watching?
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[22:21] <Prestige> if anyone wants the spam to stop use that command
[22:21] <lyricsguy_> Nos vamos pegando, poquito a poquito
[22:22] <lyricsguy_> Y es que esa belleza es un rompecabezas
[22:22] <lyricsguy_> Pero pa montarlo aquí tengo la pieza
[22:22] <lyricsguy_> ~REFRAIN~
[22:22] <b00ter> I dont want, it's funny
[22:22] <lyricsguy_> Despacito
[22:22] <qwebirc74976> bluesmonk: Etcher's App is telling me Ubuntu18.04 iso is not a bootable image.
[22:22] <lyricsguy_> Vamos a hacerlo en una playa en Puerto Rico
[22:22] <lyricsguy_> Hasta que las olas griten "¡ay, bendito!"
[22:22] <lyricsguy_> Para que mi sello se quede contigo
[22:22] <lyricsguy_> Pasito a pasito, suave suavecit0
[22:22] <lyricsguy_> Nos vamos pegando, poquito a poquito
[22:22] <lyricsguy_> Que le enseñes a mi boca
[22:22] <lyricsguy_> Tus lugares favoritos (favoritos, favoritos baby)
[22:22] <lyricsguy_> Pasito a pasito, suave suavecito
[22:23] <lyricsguy_> Nos vamos pegando, poquito a poquito
[22:23] <leftyfb> qwebirc74976: tried redownloading it?
[22:23] <lyricsguy_> Hasta provocar tus gritos
[22:23] <theor_> I wonder if he'll get bored after a while
[22:23] <wendico> lol i guess should be banned
[22:23] <lyricsguy_> Y que olvides tu apellido (DY)
[22:23] <lyricsguy_> Despacito
[22:23] <qwebirc74976> leftyfb: I will. Would you recommand the torrent download over Ubuntu servers?
[22:23] <leftyfb> qwebirc74976: nope
[22:24] <qwebirc74976> leftyfb: thanks
[22:24] <b00ter> despacito
[22:24] <lyricsguy_> Ay
[22:24] <lyricsguy_> Fonsi
[22:24] <lyricsguy_> DY
[22:24] <lyricsguy_> Oh
[22:24] <lyricsguy_> leku
[22:24] <qwebirc74976> leftyfb: I will keep you informed about the result
[22:25] <jeffree> I guess I can't edit files over mtp? I was trying to edit a text file on my android device with gedit and when trying to save it says "Could not save the file ..." "Cannot handle “mtp:” locations in write mode. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again."
[22:25] <lyricsguy_> Todos mis sentidos van pidiendo más
[22:25] <lyricsguy_> Esto hay que tomarlo sin ningún apuro
[22:25] <lyricsguy_> refrain begin:
[22:26] <lyricsguy_> Despacito
[22:26] <lyricsguy_> Quiero respirar tu cuello despacito
[22:26] <lyricsguy_> Deja que te diga cosas al oído
[22:26] <oerheks> lyricsguy_, go somewhere else, thanks
[22:26] <lyricsguy_> Para que te acuerdes si no estás conmigo
[22:26] <jeffree> I think you lifted that quiet too soon
[22:26] <lyricsguy_> Despacit0
[22:26] <leftyfb> jeffree: it's a bot
[22:26] <lyricsguy_> Quiero desnudarte a besos despacito
[22:26] <lyricsguy_> Firmo en las paredes de tu laberinto
[22:26] <oerheks> !ops
[22:26] <lyricsguy_> Y hacer de tu cuerpo todo un manuscrito (sube, sube, sube)
[22:26] <lyricsguy_> (Sube, sube)
[22:28] <Temper> did ubuntu ever release that update from 16.04 to 18.04?
[22:29] <leftyfb> Temper: no. They're waiting on fixing a bug
[22:29] <Temper> was their an issue with the updater or where their bugs with 18.04 being worked on?
[22:29] <Temper> what type of bug may i ask?
[22:29] <ner0x> Good afternoon Everyone. Any idea why, when trying to install Ubuntu, the liveUSB would freeze say... 20 or 30 seconds in? It's a brand new ASUS Q535UD.
[22:29] <Temper> because I want to know if I need to do a fresh install leftyfb
[22:29] <ner0x> Even after an install it hangs about 30 seconds after boot.
[22:29] <Temper> i updated early not realizing they were going to delay it.
[22:29] <leftyfb> Temper: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-menus/+bug/1766890
[22:32] <Temper> leftyfb: mine seemed to upgrade but I did see some "bugs" i did not have in 16.04 should i do a fresh install?
[22:32] <leftyfb> Temper: use a cd/usb?
[22:32] <Temper> no its a desktop install leftyfb
[22:33] <leftyfb> ok
[22:33] <leftyfb> Temper: so if you're looking to reinstall, use a cd/usb to reinstall
[22:33] <leftyfb> Temper: unless you know to setup your own PXE server on your network. That'll work too
[22:33] <Temper> oh you mean if I was going to do a reinstall? I thought you mean my current setup
[22:34] <Temper> well I have ubuntu 18.04.1 already live cd already put on a usb
[22:34] <Temper> i know how to reinstall my questions is "should" I reinstall?
[22:34] <leftyfb> Temper: up to you
[22:35] <Temper> leftyfb: is this the only bug they are waiting on? I mean seemed to upgrade fine
[22:35] <Temper> does this mean by install was effected by this?
[22:36] <leftyfb> Temper: not sure, you have yet t mention any issues you are experiencing
[22:37] <Temper> tor sandbox 1 feature that worked in 16.04 is not working in 18.04 firefail has a bug and others have reported issues in 18.04 on the firejail website and I network manager gnome was having an issue staying connected to a vpn and its NOT the vpn because its fine on android and after a reboot I could connect right back.. Those are the 3 main issues I am seeing
[22:38] <Temper> leftyfb:
[22:39] <Temper> leftyfb: but i dont know if those are just 18.04 issues are upgrade issues.
[22:39] <leftyfb> Temper: I think the only thing you could potentially get help with here is the VPN. The rest are 3rd party projects not supported here.
[22:39] <thefool> ok
[22:39] <thefool> seems to work
[22:39] <thefool> hia everyone
[22:39] <lyricsguy> Hello, I'm yrics professional bot. I'm is work-in progress, so, expect bugs
[22:39] <lyricsguy> Type one of the following commands to display the lyrics of that song
[22:39] <lyricsguy> Available commands: !despacito
[22:40] <personall> !despacito
[22:40] <lyricsguy> Hay
[22:40] <lyricsguy> Fonsi
[22:40] <Temper> leftyfb: now with the vpn it seems fine with unity but not with gnome
[22:41] <leftyfb> Temper: neither should have an affect on the connection at all
[22:41] <Temper> leftyfb: I hear what your saying its not so much getting help to fix it with those things but deciding if those are upgrade issues or 18.04 issues
[22:41] <Temper> leftyfb: dunno worked fine in 16.04 and works fine in unity.
[22:42] <jeffree> is anyone able to write to a device connected via mtp in 18.04?
[22:42] <Temper> leftyfb: it disconnects and wont reconnect until i reboot.
[22:43] <Temper> leftyfb: well I got another question for a fresh install after its done replacing /home and /etc should be safe correct?
[22:43] <leftyfb> Temper: I would back those up
[22:44] <Temper> leftyfb: they are backup I am talking about replacing after the upgrade..
[22:44] <Temper> the settings should not cause problems right?
[22:44] <leftyfb> Temper: if you want to lose your files and setting, sure have at it
[22:44] <Temper> i know some settings are in /home and etc
[22:44] <Temper> leftyfb: what are you talking about ? are you reading what i am writing?
[22:45] <Temper> you are saying stuff like you are not even paying attention
[22:45] <Temper> I HAVE THE BACKUP ALREADY!! I WANT TO REPLACE IT AFTER A FRESH INSTALL
[22:45] <leftyfb> ok, so do that
[22:46] <Temper> wow your a huge help
[22:46] <Temper> lmao
[22:46] <illuminated> and your english sucks
[22:46] <Temper> leftyfb: #windows sounds more like a channel fitting for you
[22:46] <Temper> illuminated: or maybe your reading skills suck
[22:46] <leftyfb> Temper: feel free to ask for a refund
[22:47] <Temper> leftyfb: just because its free don't mean you need to offer it just saying
[22:47] <illuminated> it's you're not your.  that's one of the many grammatical/typing issues that make you hard to understand
[22:47] <Temper> illuminated: well if you don't know what someone means with you're compare to your then thats a personal issue for you.
[22:47] <ner0x> Good afternoon Everyone. Any idea why, when trying to install Ubuntu, the liveUSB would freeze say... 20 or 30 seconds in? It's a brand new ASUS Q535UD.
[22:48] <Temper> i am not on here to pass a english test
[22:48] <illuminated> an english test
[22:48] <TJ-> ner0x: is that before the GUI desktop starts, or after?
[22:48] <Temper> ^exactly
[22:48] <Temper> thats your own personal issues
[22:48] <leftyfb> Temper: and we're not here to translate your lack of grammatical effort
[22:48] <Temper> take your meds
[22:48] <Temper> and leave me a lone illuminated
[22:49] <TJ-> Eveyone! please stop the barbed insults. Either focus on support or keep quiet
[22:49] <Temper> leftyfb: well if you can't figure out that you're may mean your and you don't have the intellectual capacity to understand thats what they probably mean ..#windows is in your future.
[22:50] <Temper> its not the grammar its you guys don't have the answer and try to deflect.
[22:50] <Temper> sad but true
[22:50] <Temper> #debian is way better with help
[22:50] <illuminated> then install debian
[22:50] <Temper> i guess this is why they say ubuntu is a noob distro
[22:50] <gdibass> Can you just kick this guy?
[22:51] <gdibass> jfc
[22:51] <Temper> was thinking about it actually
[22:51] <amiboygnx> i all
[22:51] <amiboygnx> hi
[22:51] <gdibass> Hey there
[22:51] <Temper> not sure where they get these clowns in #ubuntu from lmao
[22:51] <TJ-> Temper: regarding your dropped VPN. If it's set via Network Manager, then it logs very verbosely in /var/log/syslog, so you should be able to find some big clues there
[22:52] <gdibass> Temper: you're an idiot
[22:52] <Temper> i wonder if TJ- mean your or you're
[22:52] <Temper> gdibass: lmao
[22:52] <gdibass> Glad you can laugh about it
[22:52] <Temper> gdibass: is that your or you're
[22:53] <gdibass> It's easy enough to figure out
[22:53] <Temper> that is the question of the day on ubuntu. ITS NOT WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN EVEN IF GET AN UPDATE FROM 16.04 TO 18.04 ITS WHETHER ITS YOUR OR YOU'RE LMAO
[22:53] <Temper>  ALOT OF CLOWNS IN THE ROOM
[22:54] <gdibass> You brought it up… again
[22:54] <gdibass> but that response right there is why you're an idiot
[22:54] <illuminated> no, it's a symptom..not the cause
[22:54] <Temper> DON'T WORRY ABOUT GETTING AN UPDATE FROM 16.04 TO 18.04 WORRY ABOUT YOUR OR YOU'RE LOLOLOL
[22:54] <Temper> THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE
[22:54] <el> Temper: stop
[22:54] <gdibass> "I did not express my problem clearly and when corrected I decided to lash out, both at the person who pointed it out and at the channel in general"
[22:54] <TJ-> I've asked once already, please stop. if you want to carry on go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:54] <gdibass> And wonder why nobody wants to help me
[22:54] <el> nah offtopic doesn't want that either
[22:55] <xamithanx> Yeah take that to ##linux
[22:55] <qwebirc74976> leftyfb: I am now connected as "chaale"
[22:55] <Temper> YOUR AND YOU'RE IS THE CONCERN FOR UBUNTU TODAY NOT GETTING THEIR BUGS STRAIGHT APPRARENTLY LOLOL
[22:55] <xamithanx> They like trolls there
[22:55] <chaale44> This is qwebirc74976
[22:55] <Temper> LOOK @ EL LOL
[22:55] <illuminated> you're about to get booted and still don't know when to shut up
[22:56] <illuminated> thanks
[22:56] <Temper> EL IS IT YOUR OR YOU'RE OR CAN UBUNTU FIX ANY BUGS THAT IS THE REAL QUESTION!!
[22:56] <gdibass> jfc
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[22:56] <el> Temper: what you're saying makes literally no nsense to me
[22:56] <Temper> WHY DON'T EVERYONE WORRY ABOUT YOU OR YOU'RE INSTEAD OF PRESSING BUGS LOLOLOL
[22:56] <Temper> MAYBE READING IS YOUR CHALLENGE EL
[22:56] <Temper> scroll up
[22:57] <el> Temper: find somewhere else to get help, your attitude is not welcome here
[22:57] <gdibass> Nobody is going to scroll up to help you solve a problem when you're being a jackass
[22:57] <Temper> el your lack of reading skills is not welcome here
[22:57] <Temper> bugs should not be welcome here but apparently they are more concerned about your or you're
[22:58] <gdibass> Maybe try actually stating the problem in a clear and calm manner
[22:58] <bluesmonk> man you sure are bored
[22:58] <gdibass> instead of whatever the hell you're doing rn
[22:58] <Temper> I did state it clear and calm but leftyfb was just repeating what i said and did not even have a clue
[22:58] <gdibass> All I know right now is that you don't know the difference between your and you're… and that's solved by taking English lessons
[22:58] <Temper> I don't need somone to just repeat what i said
[22:59] <Mathieu> hello
[22:59] <gdibass> Hey there
[22:59] <Temper> gdibass: fix your bugs and I might fix my english
[22:59] <gdibass> relevant name I guess
[22:59] <bluesmonk> chaale44: sorry went afk. perhaps your iso is broken
[22:59] <cancrogeno> Haha
[23:00] <bluesmonk> where did you download it from?
[23:01] <bluesmonk> anyway I'm leaving. bye!
[23:05] <el> illuminated: btw, please don't pick on people's english. many people here aren't native english speakers, don't pick on people for it when they're getting help even if they're being rude. it just makes other non-native speakers feel scared to talk.
[23:06] <gdibass> Przepraszam
[23:06] <gdibass> I kind of picked up on that one too :/
[23:06] <gdibass> in my defense that guy was being a jackass
[23:06] <illuminated> sorry, understood.
[23:06] <el> learn from this time and do better next time
[23:07] <illuminated> I was just coming to the defense of the other guy who he was griping about not being able to read because he didn't articulate himself very well
[23:08] <illuminated> anyways, that got out of hand, and I contributed to its escalation.  I'll try to do better next time.
[23:09] <el> thank you
[23:09] <gdibass> H mentioned 18.04 not being available… was the LTS released?
[23:10] <el> it was the lts->lts upgrade i think
[23:10] <el> and i have no idea about that sorry
[23:10] <gdibass> bummer, I actually had the same question lol
[23:10] <gdibass> but I figured just wait until next week
[23:11] <chaale44> leftyfb: new iso download is identified as bootable by Etcher. Thanks!
[23:11] <blizzy> d
[23:15] <jeffree> how can I write to an mtp-connected device?
[23:15] <jeffree> ubuntu18.04
[23:16] <Bashing-om> gdibass: The path is expected to open early next week : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-August/004556.html .
[23:17] <amiboygnx> nite all
[23:17] <gdibass> Bashing-om:  thank you
[23:18] <Bashing-om> gdibass: :) Small thing - that means a lot :)
[23:19] <elswyrr> hi
[23:21] <elswyrr> anybody here ?
[23:22] <Bashing-om> !ask | elswyrr
[23:22] <jeffree> I can create and delete directories, I can create and delete files in a gui file manager but not command line, but I cannot edit files
[23:25] <TJ-> jeffree: are you using jmtpfs ?
[23:25] <jeffree> I'm using whatever 18.04 does to auto mount
[23:26] <jeffree> libmtp?
[23:26] <TJ-> jeffree: some tools that try to edit files in-place will not work. If I recall correctly, MTP doesn't support that concept. Only create/delete
[23:27] <jeffree> there's other weirdness though
[23:27] <jeffree> I can't 'touch filename'
[23:27] <jeffree> to create a file
[23:28] <jeffree> seems file managers can do something that command line cannot
[23:28] <TJ-> jeffree: The GUI functionality comes via gvfs (Gnome virtual file systems)
[23:30] <jeffree> ok, thanks
[23:31] <jeffree> is there a way I can get the same functionality in the shell that is available in nautilus for mtp?
[23:33] <jeffree> I can copy a file from local fs to mtp fs with nautilus, but not with the shell
[23:34] <TJ-> jeffree: do you have mtp-tools installed?
[23:35] <jeffree> no
[23:35] <TJ-> jeffree: that's one option, or the jmptfs is a fuse file-system which might help
[23:36] <jeffree> are you saying I have to mount differently?
[23:36] <TJ-> !info jmptfs | jeffree
[23:37] <TJ-> !info jmtpfs | jeffree
[23:37] <TJ-> !info mtp-tools | jeffree
[23:37] <jeffree> thanks, I know how to 'apt show'
[23:38] <TJ-> jeffree: I'm so used to using 'adb shell/push/pull' for such things I've never bothered with MTP :)
[23:39] <jeffree> It might be the case that I am being an idiot
[23:39] <jeffree> but, afaik, I can't use adb to run local scripts to handle file syncing like I can with mtp and unison
[23:39] <jeffree> which is not exactly what I was trying to do now
[23:40] <jeffree> but I tend to do things one way for all things
[23:41] <jeffree> I haven't been doing the file syncing since my other 16.04 install, so not sure if/how it will work in 18.04
[23:41] <jeffree> I have to go, wasted too much time trying to do simple stuff
[23:52] <klnngger> Hello ???
[23:54] <oerheks> :-)
[23:59] <wendico> hello there, im on Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS, what is the recommended, prefered, preinstalled software to run test virtual machines? Thank you very much.