| Wild_Man | Bashing-om, I do not think it should be included | 00:01 |
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| Bashing-om | Wild_Man: Glad for the confirmation . | 00:02 |
| Bashing-om | Wild_Man: Got a good start on making up the summaries :) A lot to do tomorrow . Can not forecast when I will be able to complete them - or how they will read . | 00:06 |
| Wild_Man | Bashing-om, it is good that you have got a jump on writing them and hopefully you will have some help, have you been sending out the summary writers email or just relying on yourself and guiverc ? | 00:09 |
| Bashing-om | Wild_Man: I gave up on the Email for additional help .. guiverc has been doing the brunt of the summaries . | 00:10 |
| guiverc | I was wondering if my stepping in should be late .. so if some you've attempted-to-join-us looks at doc, the can see something to do, instead of a full doc.. there is always the risk that I'll not be able to (sunday), either i forget, pain etc .. | 00:11 |
| guiverc | (attempted to join us - ie. those you've tried to recruit; been talked about last couple of days ...) | 00:12 |
| Wild_Man | guiverc, it does not look like anyone else that I have recruited is going to help unfortunately | 00:13 |
| guiverc | happens - i never got anywhere in anything i tried; but tried to email those that did something on occasion just to try & keep the few (2-3) that did... | 00:15 |
| guiverc | (anything i tried - meaning recruiting a couple of years? ago) | 00:15 |
| Wild_Man | I am happy to email the ones on the list | 00:16 |
| Bashing-om | Wild_Man: guiverc Would be mice if we got any type of feed back - anyone checking to see if we ever get anything ? | 00:17 |
| guiverc | the email I meant was a 'touching base - update' or goodwill email ... as at the time episodes weren't going out exactly weekly... | 00:18 |
| Wild_Man | There has been no replies for quite a while | 00:18 |
| guiverc | i would treat that as normal Wild_Man - the most common i got was 'sorry no time, please remove me..' | 00:19 |
| Wild_Man | guiverc, I did that in the when we first started the letter back up | 00:19 |
| guiverc | Bashing-om, i agree re: feedback - checking where? | 00:24 |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: There is a non-used means: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Ideas . I have yet to see a submission . Do people not read our newsletter ? | 00:25 |
| Wild_Man | guiverc, we email them from then team M/L so if they reply they should reply to this list now but no one has replied or Krytarik and myself would have seen them | 00:26 |
| guiverc | we get a few hits - but that means ??? (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue539?action=info&hitcounts=1) | 00:27 |
| Wild_Man | Bashing-om, I do not think we have many readers anymore but there is no way to no for sure but if I remember correct there is like 7000 people that receive it in there emaail | 00:27 |
| guiverc | as we reached #500; some effort was put in (esp. lyz & paul) to get feedback, and yeah, it was underwhelming then too | 00:28 |
| Bashing-om | I say again. The load is taxing for just 2 people to prepare the newsletter. I do not know how long I can maintain, as I have fall chores that must get done for Winter preperation . | 00:28 |
| Wild_Man | If anyone knows anyone that can help please ask them and if you know another way to reach helpers I am open to suggestions | 00:30 |
| pleia2 | there are more readers than you think ;) when the newsletter disappears, they come out of the woodwork to speak up | 00:30 |
| Wild_Man | that is good to know | 00:30 |
| pleia2 | but it is near impossible to find contributors, which is why things quieted down for months | 00:30 |
| Wild_Man | I recruited four or five people but none of them helped so that went no where but I will keep trying | 00:31 |
| pleia2 | I made it *super* simple with a very simple survey to people who said they wanted to contribute, I think I got one reply | 00:31 |
| pleia2 | but yeah, I think for every 10 that say they'll help, 1 does | 00:32 |
| Wild_Man | where did you post that and do you have a copy of it? | 00:32 |
| Wild_Man | That sounds about right | 00:32 |
| pleia2 | it was a private email to all the contributors like 4 years ago, the form is long since deleted | 00:32 |
| Wild_Man | okay | 00:32 |
| pleia2 | I was trying to see what we could do to make it easier to contribute, if there was some reason people weren't when they said they were interested | 00:33 |
| Bashing-om | pleia2: What gets me - presently - What do we do that anyone with an RSS reader can not do better ? | 00:33 |
| pleia2 | Bashing-om: people like getting hand-picked articles once a week, reading everything as it comes in all week long is a bit overwhelming | 00:33 |
| pleia2 | I'm not saying you have to keep working on UWN, I gave up too when it got to be too much work for me | 00:34 |
| Wild_Man | I am not sure what we can do since we had to lock down goole docs but I think with recruiting our main focus needs to be on summary writers | 00:34 |
| Bashing-om | pleia2: :) great point . I rest on your knowledge and skills :) | 00:34 |
| guiverc | I agree with pleia2 Bashing-om - re: weekly roundup versus liferea ... liferea is my choice; but I like the concise grouping too (for when I'm out of time, get behind on feeds to catch up on missed, those with less time I assume rely on weekly news more) | 00:35 |
| Bashing-om | Wild_Man: I have got the procedure to publish my part down to where I can do it in a couple of hours - if the summaries are completed. | 00:37 |
| Wild_Man | pleia2, is there a way to write it up and streamline the process onto an RSS feed or digital format of some type? | 00:37 |
| pleia2 | not really, but if you just want to feed people articles, you could stop writing summaries | 00:38 |
| Wild_Man | Bashing-om, publishing is what I am best at and that is what I said I could do when I volunteered so that way I can do my part | 00:38 |
| Wild_Man | that does not sound good, what do you think? | 00:39 |
| Bashing-om | pleia2: guiverc raised the point to write the summary in such a way that the reader is prompted to read the article. | 00:39 |
| pleia2 | I didn't think the newsletter was worth it without the summaries, but it's in your hands now to decide these things, especially when the other option is "no newsletter at all" | 00:40 |
| Bashing-om | Wild_Man: I have done the xfer from Gdocs to wiki a few times .. and I am now fairly comfortable doing so . | 00:40 |
| Wild_Man | we will discuss it I guess when Krytarik gets back | 00:41 |
| Bashing-om | pleia2: Wild_Man The format that pleia2 has set up and developed over a long period of time is a good one ! .. We just need the help to write ! | 00:42 |
| Wild_Man | Bashing-om, I agree, also times change and sometimes we have to adapt to stay in the game, not saying that we are there though | 00:43 |
| Bashing-om | Wild_Man: Agrreed .. we will soon have to include personal devices in a section .. and give more exposure to the cloud . The day of the desktop system is passing . | 00:45 |
| guiverc | there was a 'ubuntu phone' section as i recall; it was removed ... (re: devices section) | 00:53 |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: Yeah, I too recall the 'phone' section. The point is that we must be open to change .. and adjust our presentation accordingly . | 00:56 |
| guiverc | :) | 00:57 |
| Bashing-om | In the meantime --- see if I can knock out another summary :) Got nothing the more pressing to get done at this time :P | 00:59 |
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