[00:00] <bazhang> wendico, no preferred, but try virtualbox
[00:00] <bazhang> wendico, it may not be default installed but easily done
[00:00] <wendico> thank you, googling on it
[00:01] <leftyfb> wendico: depends on what you're testing. If you're just testing server versions of linux distro's, containers(lxd) is great
[00:01] <xamithanx> KVM is usually installed by default isn't it ? libvirt anyway
[00:01] <leftyfb> xamithanx: it is not installed by default
[00:02] <tekisui> nice these monkey testing capcha´s
[00:02] <tekisui> hello :)
[00:02] <tekisui> i got ssd disk in ext4
[00:02] <guiverc> wendico, `virtualbox` is in the repos; https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/virtualbox - in universe so easy to install  (may not be latest, but is tested & works!)
[00:02] <tekisui> it gives some quark 4 error when try to format ?
[00:03] <needhelppls> hey guys, just installed ubuntu 18.04. Everything went fine except for my display configuration. I have 2 monitors, but one of them is not being detected at all. Past booting but prior to the login manager/greeter, both monitors are active. I've already disabled wayland so I'm running on Xorg. Any ideas?
[00:03] <needhelppls> The non detected one is called "HDMI-A-0" according to xrandr output
[00:04] <kk4ewt> does 18.04 use wayland?
[00:04] <tekisui> did you install it fresh or over old system ?
[00:04] <needhelppls> fresh
[00:04] <tekisui> ok :)
[00:04] <tekisui> ceau
[00:04] <needhelppls> completely deleted everything on disk
[00:04] <guiverc> kk4ewt, 18.04 uses X by default; only 17.10 has used wayland so far by default
[00:05] <oerheks> wayland session is installed, but xorg is default
[00:05] <kk4ewt> that doesnt make any sense
[00:05] <kk4ewt> oerheks,  thank you
[00:05] <needhelppls> in any way, i feel that it is related to the greeter since before that point both monitors are active
[00:05] <needhelppls> any ideas?
[00:05] <kk4ewt> needhelppls,  ls |grep VGA
[00:06] <kk4ewt> opps
[00:06] <needhelppls> np
[00:06] <kk4ewt> lspci |grep VGA rather
[00:06] <needhelppls> its just a radeon rx 460
[00:06] <needhelppls> i do have amdgpu set up
[00:06] <needhelppls> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Baffin [Radeon RX 460/560D / Pro 450/455/460/555/560] (rev cf)
[00:08] <wendico> bazhang: leftyfb: thank you,i read about both and im gonna go ahear virtualbox so i can also maybe use it sometime with other os. thank you both.
[00:08] <needhelppls> im on gnome if it makes any difference
[00:09] <needhelppls> and i overrid the greeter with lightdm
[00:09] <needhelppls> didn't work with the default nor lightdm
[00:09] <needhelppls> >mfw ubuntu is harder to setup than gentoo
[00:15] <Mr-Potter> Hello everyone I managed to fix my earlier issue :)
[00:16] <Mr-Potter> which funnily enough was with Linux Mint
[00:16] <oerheks> mint has its own issues, so, good for you
[00:17] <plshelp> so i have some update on the hdmi not detected thing
[00:17] <plshelp> if i disconnect it before power on, then log on, and connect the following happens:
[00:17] <plshelp> display 1 (not hdmi) flashes once, then flashes again and display 2 (hdmi) turns on for a second, and then is turned off again
[00:24] <amirite> hi, I've got a razer blade stealth laptop (just got it) with an i915 chipset and my external monitors flicker and stutter. I've googled an gone through everything other people who have encountered this have done but I haven't found success
[00:24] <amirite> can anybody offer help?
[00:27] <ryuo> amirite: And your ubuntu version is?
[00:30] <amirite> 16
[00:31] <ryuo> you may need to upgrade to Bionic. It has more recent support.
[00:31] <bazhang> amirite, 16.04?
[00:31] <ryuo> Not sure if the HWE is enough.
[00:31] <oerheks> comprehensive guide https://github.com/rolandguelle/razer-blade-stealth-linux
[00:31] <oerheks> ryuo +1
[00:39] <texla> When loading gparted recieving the following comment (Unit -.mount does not exist, proceeding anyway) What need to fix?
[00:44] <jayjo> can I use a shadowsocket vpn with the default 1804 vpn manager?
[00:44] <jayjo> I pretty much as ss:// route
[00:52] <trf> let's chat
[00:54] <xamithanx> You can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:22] <Apachez> anyone else who noticed that pinta crashes in recent ubuntu builds?
[01:49] <salamanderrake24> kaniini has invited you to join #litepub
[02:07] <jayjo> I'm trying to understand how to install Panel OSD in order to move my notifications: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/708/panel-osd/
[02:08] <jayjo> what is the shell version? How do I install this stinker
[02:08] <jayjo> is that my shell? It's GNU Bash 4.4.19
[02:08] <bazhang> thats from the gnome extensions website jayjo
[02:09] <bazhang> we have no control over that jayjo contact the maker
[02:09] <AllOgreThePlace> Cant you just apt install or yum install that?
[02:10] <GingerGeek26> kaniini has invited you to join #litepub
[02:10] <bazhang> AllOgreThePlace, it's similar to firefox extensions
[02:11] <jayjo> wow ok so gnome shell. Whoops
[02:11] <bazhang> yeah
[02:11] <bazhang> you'd need to contact the maker
[02:12] <jayjo> Ok thanks, although it's just a gnome extension. I just installed it easy. I just lapsed on what it was
[02:51] <bobe7> kaniini has invited you to join #litepub
[02:59] <LinuxNewbie> hi
[03:00] <LinuxNewbie> hi hello is anybody there
[03:11] <LinuxNewbie> hi
[03:13] <lilkuz2005> hey guys, quick question, im running ubuntu 18.04, trying to install an elgato capture card, the instructions want me to untar a file in the /usr/lib/firmware location, but i cant seem to locate this directory, its also not in the /usr/local/lib/firmware, is this a directory i need to creat ?
[03:13] <lilkuz2005> create*
[03:15] <compdoc> lilkuz2005, type: sudo updatedb
[03:15] <compdoc> then when its done, type: locate firmware
[03:16] <LinuxNewbie> hi
[03:16] <LinuxNewbie> is anybody here
[03:16] <LinuxNewbie> quit()
[03:16] <LinuxNewbie> ???
[03:17] <LinuxNewbie> exit
[03:17] <herbmillerjr> Yes
[03:18] <LinuxNewbie> hi herbmillerjr
[03:19] <lilkuz2005> i still cant cd to /usr/lib/firmware
[03:19] <LinuxNewbie> why it happened so
[03:21] <saurabhdatta> Hello
[03:21] <CoolerZ> how do you stop kde connect?
[03:21] <saurabhdatta> I need some help with a whole live ubuntu partition recovery
[03:22] <LinuxNewbie> yes saurabhadatta
[03:22] <CoolerZ> this thread seems to indicate the only way is to uninstall https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/3tgnes/how_to_disable_kdeconnect/
[03:22] <LinuxNewbie> what is causing u a problem over creating a partition
[03:22] <saurabhdatta> LinuxNewbie no problem with creating partition
[03:23] <saurabhdatta> What happened is
[03:23] <LinuxNewbie> yes
[03:23] <saurabhdatta> I accidently rm rf'ed everything in home folder
[03:23] <saurabhdatta> as root
[03:23] <saurabhdatta> and then used extundelete from that partition itself
[03:24] <saurabhdatta> wht made it worse is after using extundelete from live partition, it wrote zero blocks and the parition cgot corrupted :(
[03:24] <LinuxNewbie> saurabhdatta had u done this operation as su
[03:24] <saurabhdatta> Ye
[03:25] <saurabhdatta> that's te sad part
[03:25] <LinuxNewbie> ohh ..
[03:25] <april> kaniini has invited you to join #litepub
[03:26] <LinuxNewbie> sorry saurabhdatta i have no idea how to recover then
[03:26] <saurabhdatta> I will post a gist of what I've learnt from this home folder massacare
[03:27] <LinuxNewbie> ok
[03:38] <saurabhdatta> ls
[03:42] <lilkuz2005> ha ha, i figured out how to use my elgat game capture hd in linux, its a bit of a pita to setup and to run it every time, but its working now
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:20] <cfhowlett> yowza^3 lotuspsychje
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> hey cfhowlett long time no see mate :p
[04:22] <cfhowlett> :)
[04:22] <cfhowlett> just doing what I do
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> sure sure :p
[04:30] <Evidlo29> watch the live defcon show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-NgAB1RcPo
[04:44] <KuhaMuikkunen> is it normal to have xenial packages still on ubuntu after the upgrade to bionic?
[04:45] <cfhowlett> doesn't sound legit, KuhaMuikkunen
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> KuhaMuikkunen: can we ask how you upgraded please?
[04:45] <KuhaMuikkunen> i switched from lts to any upgrade
[04:45] <KuhaMuikkunen> in the gui
[04:46] <KuhaMuikkunen> so is there a way to fix that or do a fresh install?
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> KuhaMuikkunen: define what you did please, its not really clear
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> KuhaMuikkunen: did you see the upgrade window, there is a new version of ubuntu?
[04:47] <KuhaMuikkunen> software and upgrades in the gui for updates change from lts to any new version
[04:47] <KuhaMuikkunen> and it gave the prompt for 18.04
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> KuhaMuikkunen: prompt, as in upgrade window to bionic?
[04:48] <KuhaMuikkunen> yes
[04:48] <KuhaMuikkunen> 18.04 is bionic :)
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> KuhaMuikkunen: yes we know that
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> KuhaMuikkunen: so..what are these packages from xenial you worry about?
[04:49] <KuhaMuikkunen> I am not sure if I should or should not worry about that is my question is that normal
[04:49] <KuhaMuikkunen> there is about 50 packages with xenial
[04:50] <KuhaMuikkunen> I did apt list --installed and searched for xenial and got about 50 hits
[04:50] <KuhaMuikkunen> cause I stumbled upon another package i saw for xenial
[04:50] <KuhaMuikkunen> is what prompted me to search
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> KuhaMuikkunen: hastebin the output for us please
[04:50] <cfhowlett> KuhaMuikkunen, I would venture to guess that this may be an incomplete upgrade.  in a terminal: do-release-upgrade -s    SHOULD indicate no new release
[04:51] <KuhaMuikkunen> is there no easy way to upgrade from xenial to bionic?
[04:51] <KuhaMuikkunen> for those packages
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> KuhaMuikkunen: answer cfhowlett suggestion please?
[04:56] <KuhaMuikkunen> i found something that may work.
[04:56] <KuhaMuikkunen>     Install the "deborphan" package.
[04:56] <KuhaMuikkunen>     sudo deborphan | xargs sudo apt-get -y remove --purge
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> KuhaMuikkunen: before you start experimenting, we advice you give us more info first
[04:58] <KuhaMuikkunen> lotuspsychje: not sure what else you want
[04:58] <KuhaMuikkunen> there are about 50 xenial packages that dont seem to supposed to be there and this looks like it works
[04:58] <cfhowlett> KuhaMuikkunen, I would venture to guess that this may be an incomplete upgrade.  in a terminal: do-release-upgrade -s    SHOULD indicate no new release
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> KuhaMuikkunen: we cant see things from here...use a hastebin
[04:59] <KuhaMuikkunen> what does the terminal telling me no new release going to do?
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> KuhaMuikkunen: ..before we can help you, we need more information from you
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> !details | KuhaMuikkunen
[05:24] <blah10> hello everyone
[06:40] <sttone> anyone know what is snp01 means?
[06:41] <cfhowlett> in what context?
[06:41] <sttone> is that possible any kind of phone call number format???
[06:42] <sttone> just want to know :)
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> sttone: start from the beginning, what are you trying to do with wich package?
[06:43] <sttone> oh sorry wrong channel...:)
[07:01] <jamessp007> anyone inhere?
[07:01] <EriC^> !ask | jamessp007
[07:02] <jamessp007> what the heck first chat I ever been to!
[07:02] <jamessp007> bye.
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> jamessp007: this is ubuntu support, we take ubuntu questions only here, its not a regular chat
[07:11] <abyssalcore> is there a channel for simply discussing how legit ubuntu is?
[07:13] <mwsb> Probably #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:35] <vasiliy> Hello!
[07:42] <EriC^> hi vasiliy
[07:43] <KuhaMuikkunen> that deorphaned application works
[07:44] <KuhaMuikkunen> I did not have any issues using it
[07:53] <idonl> Hello :) by mistake i made a directory which starts with $, and now i cannot remove it anymore. anyone knows how i can do that?
[07:55] <ducasse> idonl: put an \ in front of the $
[07:57] <idonl> ducasse: Thanks!, it worked
[07:57] <ducasse> yw
[08:00] <SKYWARN> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[08:00] <SKYWARN> "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
[08:04] <qwebirc22571> hi! Been searching for a while. Just wondering why Windows 10 likes to eat GRUB?
[08:05] <qwebirc22571> Every time I choose the Windows Boot Manager in GRUB at boot, Windows 10 boots just fine, but when I restart, GRUB is gone and Windows/Ubuntu are both unbootable until I boot-repair.
[08:05] <qwebirc22571> But booting into Ubuntu works fine, as expected.
[08:05] <qwebirc22571> >inb4 why even dual boot
[08:06] <qwebirc22571> Both Ubuntu and Win10 are installed under EFI (as far as I know)
[08:11] <ice9> i installed ubuntu manually on lvm/luks partition, how can i make it prompt for passphrase? i created /etc/crypttab but it doesnt work
[08:13] <KuhaMuikkunen> ice9: installed manually?
[08:14] <linux8659> hi ,for security purpose ,does it make sense to separate partitions for /root /home /var /temp using LVM ??
[08:15] <KuhaMuikkunen> ice9 you didn't install with the live cd?
[08:16] <ice9> KuhaMuikkunen, yes with live cd, i mean i didn't let the installer make the partitions automatically, i created them manually
[08:16] <KuhaMuikkunen> why you did that you can use the installer to do all that auto
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[08:55] <KuhaMuikkunen> lol
[08:59] <webbyz> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[09:15] <lyricsguy> Hello, I'm yrics professional bot. I'm is work-in progress, so, expect bugs
[09:15] <lyricsguy> Type one of the following commands to display the lyrics of that song
[09:15] <lyricsguy> Available commands: !despacito
[09:16] <cancrogeno> !despacito
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[09:16] <qwebirc46498> So I just installed Ubuntu, but the wifi is not working.
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[09:17] <lyricsguy> Me voy acercando y voy armando el plan
[09:17] <lyricsguy> Solo con pensarlo se acelera el pulso (Oh yeah)
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[09:17] <lyricsguy> Todos mis sentidos van pidiendo más
[09:17] <lyricsguy> Esto hay que tomarlo sin ningún apuro
[09:17] <lyricsguy> refrain begin:
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[09:17] <lyricsguy> Deja que te diga cosas al oído
[09:17] <lyricsguy> Para que te acuerdes si no estás conmigo
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[09:18] <lyricsguy> Firmo en las paredes de tu laberinto
[09:18] <lyricsguy> Y hacer de tu cuerpo todo un manuscrito (sube, sube, sube)
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[09:18] <lyricsguy> Quiero ver bailar tu pelo
[09:18] <lyricsguy> Quiero ser tu ritmo
[09:18] <lyricsguy> Que le enseñes a mi boca
[09:18] <lyricsguy> Tus lugares favoritos (favoritos, favoritos baby)
[09:18] <lyricsguy> Déjame sobrepasar tus zonas de peligro
[09:18] <lyricsguy> Hasta provocar tus gritos
[09:18] <lyricsguy> Y que olvides tu apellido
[09:18] <lyricsguy> refrain end
[09:18] <lyricsguy> Si te pido un beso ven dámelo
[09:19] <lyricsguy> Yo sé que estás pensándolo
[09:19] <lyricsguy> Llevo tiempo intentándolo
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[09:19] <lyricsguy> Sabes que tu corazón conmigo te hace bom, bom
[09:19] <lyricsguy> Sabes que esa beba está buscando de mi bom, bom
[09:19] <lyricsguy> Ven prueba de mi boca para ver cómo te sabe
[09:19] <lyricsguy> Quiero, quiero, quiero ver cuánto amor a ti te cabe
[09:19] <lyricsguy> Yo no tengo prisa, yo me quiero dar el viaje
[09:19] <lyricsguy> Empecemos lento, después salvaje
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[09:19] <lyricsguy> Nos vamos pegando poquito a poquito
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[09:20] <lyricsguy> Y es que esa belleza es un rompecabezas
[09:20] <lyricsguy> Pero pa montarlo aquí tengo la pieza
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[09:20] <lyricsguy> Hasta que las olas griten "¡ay, bendito!"
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[09:20] <lyricsguy> Pasito a pasito, suave suavecit0
[09:20] <lyricsguy> Nos vamos pegando, poquito a poquito
[09:20] <lyricsguy> Que le enseñes a mi boca
[09:21] <lyricsguy> Tus lugares favoritos (favoritos, favoritos baby)
[09:21] <lyricsguy> Pasito a pasito, suave suavecito
[09:21] <lyricsguy> Nos vamos pegando, poquito a poquito
[09:21] <lyricsguy> Hasta provocar tus gritos
[09:21] <lyricsguy> Y que olvides tu apellido (DY)
[09:21] <lyricsguy> Despacito
[09:21] <EriC^> !ops | lyricsguy
[09:24] <Guest80899> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[09:27] <ice9> i add UUID for luks partition in /etc/crypttab and updated the initramfs but it doesn't prompt for the passphrase during boot, any idea?
[09:32] <ZaZaQR> hello
[09:39] <lyricsguy> Hello, I'm yrics professional bot. I'm is work-in progress, so, expect bugs
[09:39] <lyricsguy> Type one of the following commands to display the lyrics of that song
[09:39] <lyricsguy> Available commands: !despacito, !rickroll (never gonna give you up)
[09:39] <cancrogeno> !rickroll
[09:40] <lyricsguy> Hello, I'm yrics professional bot. I'm is work-in progress, so, expect bugs
[09:40] <lyricsguy> Type one of the following commands to display the lyrics of that song
[09:40] <lyricsguy> Available commands: !despacito, !rickroll (never gonna give you up)
[09:40] <lyricsguy> Hello, I'm yrics professional bot. I'm is work-in progress, so, expect bugs
[09:40] <lyricsguy> Type one of the following commands to display the lyrics of that song
[09:40] <lyricsguy> Available commands: !despacito, !rickroll (never gonna give you up)
[09:41] <lyricsguy> Hello, I'm yrics professional bot. I'm is work-in progress, so, expect bugs
[09:41] <lyricsguy> Type one of the following commands to display the lyrics of that song
[09:41] <lyricsguy> Available commands: !despacito, !rickroll (never gonna give you up)
[09:43] <lyricsguy> Hello, I'm yrics professional bot. I'm is work-in progress, so, expect bugs
[09:43] <lyricsguy> Type one of the following commands to display the lyrics of that song
[09:43] <lyricsguy> Available commands: !despacito, !rickroll (never gonna give you up)
[09:44] <lyricsguy> Hello, I'm yrics professional bot. I'm is work-in progress, so, expect bugs
[09:44] <lyricsguy> Type one of the following commands to display the lyrics of that song
[09:44] <lyricsguy> Available commands: !despacito, !rickroll (never gonna give you up)
[09:44] <lyricsguy> Hello, I'm yrics professional bot. I'm is work-in progress, so, expect bugs
[09:44] <lyricsguy> Type one of the following commands to display the lyrics of that song
[09:44] <lyricsguy> Available commands: !despacito, !rickroll (never gonna give you up)
[09:47] <prolyricsguy> Hello, I am yrics professional bot. I am work-in progress, so, expect bugs
[09:47] <prolyricsguy> Type one of the folIowing commands to dispIay the lyrics of that song
[09:47] <prolyricsguy> AvaiIable commands: !despacito, !rickroll (never gonna give you up)
[09:47] <cancrogeno> !rickroll
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[09:47] <prolyricsguy> We're no strangers to love
[09:47] <prolyricsguy> You know the rules and so do I
[09:47] <prolyricsguy> A full commitment's what I'm thinking of
[09:47] <prolyricsguy> You wouldn't get this from any other guy
[09:47] <prolyricsguy> I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
[09:47] <prolyricsguy> Gotta make you understand
[09:47] <prolyricsguy> refrain begin:
[09:47] <prolyricsguy> Never gonna give you up
[09:47] <prolyricsguy> Never gonna let you down
[09:49] <prolyricsguy> Hello, I am yrics professional bot. I am work-in progress, so, expect bugs
[09:49] <prolyricsguy> Type one of the folIowing commands to dispIay the lyrics of that song
[09:49] <prolyricsguy> AvaiIable commands: !despacito, !rickroll (never gonna give you up)
[09:49] <prolyricsguy>  Now I'm singing in a channel, please wait
[09:49] <YouBoonToo> Hello, I wonder about some Ubuntu packages reliability. Here is for setting up an Ubuntu virtualbox host, but that question may apply to any packaged software: is it wiser to use the Ubuntu package, or to use the software official author package? Question is asked in details at: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QbxYyyvJSw/
[10:10] <BootScout> EriC^ could you please help me now?
[10:10] <EriC^> BootScout: sure
[10:11] <EriC^> can you refresh my memory quickly?
[10:11] <panta_rhei> hello everyone
[10:11] <BootScout> EriC^ I sent you the History to your channel
[10:12] <EriC^> BootScout: i dont think i received it, freenode doesnt let unregistered nicks to chat anymore cause of spams
[10:12] <BootScout> oh
[10:12] <EriC^> BootScout: anyways i remember a little, you have 2 hdd's and you get a windows error right
[10:12] <TimeDoctor> BootScout: https://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:12] <BootScout> okay let me post it here then
[10:12] <EriC^> BootScout: can you boot the kubuntu install?
[10:13] <BootScout> EriC^ yes
[10:13] <EriC^> BootScout: ok boot it and type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:13] <EriC^> share the link it gives you here
[10:14] <BootScout> dev/sr1 cannot be opened
[10:15] <BootScout> read-write mode only
[10:15] <BootScout> it says
[10:15] <EriC^> no problem did it give a link?
[10:15] <BootScout> disk label no recognized
[10:16] <BootScout> the second time
[10:16] <BootScout> it did
[10:16] <BootScout> http://termbin.com/t78u
[10:16] <EriC^> BootScout: type "ls /sys/firmware/efi"
[10:17] <EriC^> any dirs listed or no such dir found?
[10:17] <BootScout> config_table  efivars  fw_platform_size  fw_vendor  runtime  runtime-map  systab  vars
[10:17] <EriC^> BootScout: aha
[10:17] <BootScout> ?
[10:17] <EriC^> BootScout: type "lsblk -f | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:18] <BootScout> http://termbin.com/vt23
[10:19] <EriC^> BootScout: also "sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:19] <BootScout> http://termbin.com/uw80
[10:22] <EriC^> BootScout: ok, lastly "(cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg; ls -lR /boot/efi) | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:23] <BootScout> http://termbin.com/6arn7
[10:24] <opabinia> hi
[10:27] <EriC^> BootScout: everything looks in order, the efi partition on sdb is being used for both kubuntu and windows, the grub entry in kubuntu is right and the files are there
[10:27] <EriC^> BootScout: try "sudo fsck /dev/sdb4"
[10:28] <BootScout> fsck de util-linux 2.27.1
[10:28] <EriC^> BootScout: any errors reported?
[10:29] <BootScout> with this last command¡'
[10:29] <BootScout> ¿
[10:29] <BootScout> ?
[10:29] <EriC^> yes
[10:29] <BootScout> no
[10:29] <EriC^> BootScout: try "sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb4"
[10:29] <BootScout> Mounting volume... OK
[10:29] <BootScout> Processing of $MFT and $MFTMirr completed successfully.
[10:29] <BootScout> Checking the alternate boot sector... OK
[10:29] <BootScout> NTFS volume version is 3.1.
[10:29] <BootScout> NTFS partition /dev/sdb4 was processed successfully.
[10:29] <EriC^> seems ok
[10:30] <EriC^> was it whining about the winload.exe file when you tried earlier?
[10:30] <BootScout> I get the 0xc000000e error
[10:31] <BootScout> someone here told me yesterday it is a windows problem
[10:31] <BootScout> and I should ask at ##windows
[10:31] <EriC^> BootScout: try "sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdb | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:31] <EriC^> BootScout: yeah
[10:32] <BootScout> http://termbin.com/mvfq
[10:33] <EriC^> looks very clean
[10:34] <EriC^> BootScout: try sudo mount /dev/sdb4 /mnt && ls -l /mnt/Windows/System32/winload.exe
[10:35] <BootScout> oops
[10:36] <BootScout> it mounted but when trying to copy the output I accidentally closed terminal
[10:36] <illuminated> EriC^:  I don't feel like looking at the scroll log.  what is the problem here?  That way I can keep up
[10:36] <BootScout> :-P
[10:36] <EriC^> BootScout: try running ls -l /mnt/Windows/System32/winload.exe
[10:37] <dptc> Hi there, can anyone recommend a way to allow windows to snap to corners? I'm using 18.04.
[10:37] <BootScout> EriC^ -rwxrwxrwx 2 root root 1258288 jun  8 11:29 /mnt/Windows/System32/winload.exe
[10:37] <EriC^> illuminated: he cloned his disks, he boots the windows entry from UEFI grub and he gets a 0xc000000e error
[10:37] <EriC^> BootScout: that looks about right, mine is -rwxrwxrwx 2 root root 1208184 Apr  3 06:22 /mnt/Windows/System32/winload.exe
[10:38] <EriC^> BootScout: i'd say ask in ##windows unless illuminated has any further suggestions
[10:38] <illuminated> no
[10:38] <illuminated> no idea
[10:38] <BootScout> lol
[10:38] <illuminated> have you googled the error code?
[10:39] <BootScout> thank you so much
[10:39] <EriC^> no problem :)
[10:39] <BootScout> now comes the hard time
[10:39] <BootScout> I don't think windows channel is as much helpful as this one is
[10:39] <neildugan> Hello, I have a SSH VPN setup is there anyway I can rate limit the bandwidth this uses?
[10:39] <EriC^> BootScout: it's still better than ##c :)
[10:39] <EriC^> lol
[10:41] <EriC^> BootScout: they're alright in my experience, should be good
[10:41] <BootScout> k
[10:43] <illuminated> I'm gonna guess it probably has something to do with bcd
[10:44] <illuminated> as to 'how to fix' i dunno
[10:56] <EriC^> illuminated: yeah, he said he followed the guide and ran bootrec and rebuilt the bcd as well, i also had a similar error recently after trying to shrink my windows install using ntfsresize
[10:56] <EriC^> he didnt touch the filesystem though from what he said, he cloned the whole disk *shrug*
[10:57] <EriC^> i think something has though, it probably enlarged it to fit the new bigger hdd BootScout
[10:58] <illuminated> if it was linux I'd say it was cuz the UUID calc would be different but windows doesn't do that..so idk
[10:59] <illuminated> or tbh idk
[10:59] <illuminated> i'm not good with boot issues
[11:01] <EriC^> maybe the partuuid changed? but rebuilding the bcd should point it to the new one i think
[11:01] <EriC^> BootScout: any luck with ##windows kinda curious
[11:01] <BootScout> zero
[11:01] <BootScout> they told me they dont manage dualboot
[11:01] <BootScout> that I should go asking ##dualboot
[11:01] <EriC^> did you try the automatic boot repair of the windows installer?
[11:01] <BootScout> and that channel does not even exist!
[11:02] <BootScout> yeah of course was the first thing I did
[11:02] <BootScout> windows sucks
[11:02] <BootScout> and it says it could not repair it
[11:02] <BootScout> fullstop
[11:02] <BootScout> no indications no nothing
[11:04] <EriC^> BootScout: do you still have the old installation on the old hdd?
[11:04] <BootScout> nah
[11:04] <BootScout> unallocated it
[11:04] <EriC^> BootScout: it should be still there then
[11:05] <BootScout> I didnt format it because  I was in doubt wich system would I use more intensively to dedicate the extra space...but
[11:05] <EriC^> you could try to reallocate it, and see if kubuntu boots it fine, then copy it in steps
[11:05] <BootScout> oh?
[11:05] <EriC^> yeah, is it on the sdc disk?
[11:05] <BootScout> how do I reallocate a disk¿
[11:06] <BootScout> yep
[11:06] <BootScout> using gparted¿?
[11:06] <prolyricsguy> Hello, I am yrics professional bot. I am work-in progress, so, expect bugs
[11:06] <prolyricsguy> Type one of the folIowing commands to dispIay the lyrics of that song
[11:06] <EriC^> BootScout: type "sudo apt-get install testdisk && sudo testdisk /dev/sdc"
[11:06] <prolyricsguy> AvaiIable commands: !despacito, !rickroll (never gonna give you up)
[11:06] <EriC^> !ops | prolyricsguy
[11:06] <umano> !rickroll
[11:06] <prolyricsguy>  Now I'm singing in a channel, please wait
[11:06] <prolyricsguy> We're no strangers to love
[11:06] <prolyricsguy> You know the rules and so do I
[11:06] <prolyricsguy> A full commitment's what I'm thinking of
[11:06] <prolyricsguy> You wouldn't get this from any other guy
[11:06] <prolyricsguy> I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
[11:06] <prolyricsguy> Gotta make you understand
[11:07] <prolyricsguy> refrain begin:
[11:07] <prolyricsguy> Never gonna give you up
[11:07] <prolyricsguy> Never gonna let you down
[11:07] <illuminated> fuck balls
[11:07] <prolyricsguy> Never gonna run around and desert you
[11:07] <EriC^> this isn't america's got talent umano prolyricsguy
[11:07] <prolyricsguy> Never gonna make you cry
[11:07] <prolyricsguy> Never gonna say goodbye
[11:07] <prolyricsguy> Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
[11:07] <WintrowVestrit> !despacito
[11:07] <prolyricsguy> refrain end
[11:07] <umano> Eric^ indeed
[11:07] <prolyricsguy> We've known each other for so long
[11:07] <prolyricsguy> Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it
[11:07] <prolyricsguy> Inside we both know what's been going on
[11:08] <prolyricsguy> We know the game and we're gonna play it
[11:08] <prolyricsguy> And if you ask me how I'm feeling
[11:08] <illuminated> why do ppl do dumb shit like that?
[11:08] <EriC^> probably butt-hurt from ops
[11:09] <illuminated> it's annoying but that's prob why they do it
[11:09] <EriC^> yup
[11:09] <BootScout> EriC^ please select the partition table type-->intel?
[11:09] <EriC^> BootScout: hmm, no go for EFI
[11:09] <EriC^> or GPT EFI
[11:09] <linux8659> hi ,is ther a security advantage to have separate partitions for /root /home /usr /var /temp ??
[11:09] <motte> hi, cant get niceness for users/groups to work. i did echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/sched_autogroup_enabled and appended "user hard priority -5" to /etc/security/limits.conf
[11:10] <BootScout> EriC^yeha EFI GPT indeed
[11:10] <illuminated> linux8659: why would you think there is a security advantage?
[11:11] <linux8659> to make escalation harder ??
[11:11] <illuminated> how do you think escalation happens?
[11:12] <BootScout> EriC^I tried the Analyze option... how do I know it is doing anything'¡
[11:12] <BootScout> ?
[11:12] <linux8659> well with zero day or browser java script exploitation ,gaining elevated privilage need partions access
[11:14] <illuminated> root has access to all partitions.  I fail to see how partitioning stops this from happening.
[11:14] <linux8659> making usr read only for instance would help ???
[11:14] <linux8659> user process would be more isolated too ??
[11:16] <illuminated> i don't see how different partitions does all this, but then again, I'm a dummy
[11:16] <TimeDoctor> a linux user won't be writing anything to /usr...
[11:16] <TimeDoctor> they write everything to /home/username and /tmp and any mounted devices they can access
[11:17] <linux8659> so no security benefit ??
[11:17] <TimeDoctor> if you're running Linux it is extremely unlikely that any browser exploit will target your operating system
[11:17] <illuminated> and if they do overflow a process and gain root, they have access to all partitions anyway
[11:17] <JimBuntu> Well illuminated, crazy partitions helps prevent poorly scripted attacks... but not those that parse your entire partition table. Not giving any user access to unfettered SUDO access also helps, but only in those cases where root access isn't gained irectly
[11:18] <TimeDoctor> yeah it's just going to screw things up for your daily usage if you mess with your partition layout
[11:19] <TimeDoctor> illuminated: look over stuff like SELinux if you're really interested in advanced linux security features: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SELinux
[11:19] <linux8659> to gain root acess they need to compromise root process not user process ?
[11:19] <JimBuntu> linux8659, "compromise" ? No... they start by compromising a higher level access... that's the whole point
[11:19] <illuminated> ok thanks TimeDoctor
[11:19] <linux8659> sellinux designed by the NSA ?no thanks
[11:20] <EriC^> BootScout: after analyze press on quick search
[11:21] <EriC^> BootScout: can you paste the list it gives you in paste.ubuntu.com?
[11:21] <illuminated> I just think that if you get a shell prompt, and you exploit some flaw in a program, whether you're already root or not, it doesn't particularly matter what the partition scheme is.  exploits are independent of partition scheme.  even if you can't write to /usr you can still maybe run setuid programs, exploit a vuln, gain root, and have access to all parittions.
[11:22] <EriC^> it's going to start listing partitions it finds + their starting sector ending sector and size, you can press "p" to view the files too
[11:22] <EriC^> BootScout: ^
[11:22] <BootScout> The following partition can't be recovered:
[11:22] <BootScout>      Partition               Start        End    Size in sectors
[11:22] <BootScout> >  MS Data                976773119 1605384190  628611072
[11:22] <BootScout> :-(
[11:22] <EriC^> that's all it said?
[11:23] <JimBuntu> illuminated, correct, mostly. Having access to all partitions is not the same as being able to READ all partitions correctly though. This is why layered encryption is valuable
[11:23] <EriC^> BootScout: that's about 320gb
[11:23] <EriC^> BootScout: was that the size of the windows partition before?
[11:24] <BootScout> EriC^yeah it must be it there was no other partition custom made...
[11:24] <BootScout> I mean neither system reserved nor boot would amount that high
[11:24] <BootScout> moreover I tried to free some space before cloning
[11:25] <BootScout> c: was in red color and then I removed some things
[11:25] <BootScout> but still went ahead with the cloning
[11:25] <illuminated> JimBuntu: clearly I don't understand something, I guess.  Is there any document you can point me to that would explain 'why' seperating mount points between different partitions is good for 'security'.. other than someone filling up /home or /var filling up with logs?
[11:28] <EriC^> BootScout: hmm, try "sudo mount -o offset=$((628611072 * 512)) /cdrom"
[11:29] <EriC^> BootScout: typo 1 sec
[11:29] <linux8659> thanks anyway ,i m new to this
[11:29] <EriC^> BootScout: hmm, try "sudo mount -o offset=$((628611072 * 512)) /dev/sdc /cdrom"
[11:29] <illuminated> JimBuntu: I"m not trying to be confrontational.  I just literally don't understand.  So, I'm asking you if you got something I can read to expand my knowledge.
[11:30] <JimBuntu> illuminated, I have no document that I can share. Furthermore, it's only an ancillary defense.
[11:30] <BootScout> EriC^wait
[11:30] <BootScout> I pressed continue and I got this:
[11:31] <BootScout> Disk /dev/sdc - 500 GB / 465 GiB - CHS 60801 255 63
[11:31] <BootScout>      Partition               Start        End    Size in sectors
[11:31] <BootScout>  P MS Data                     2048     923647     921600
[11:31] <BootScout>  P MS Data                   923648    1128447     204800 [NO NAME]
[11:31] <BootScout>  D MS Data                  1161216  976771071  975609856
[11:31] <BootScout> >D MS Data                348162048  976773119  628611072
[11:31] <TimeDoctor> BootScout: https://paste.ubuntu.com/
[11:31] <JimBuntu> !paste | BootScout
[11:32] <illuminated> JimBuntu: ok.  I mean, thing is, if he's worried about a javascript exploit on a linux browser, first it's going to have to exploit the browser, then it's going to have to exploit the host.
[11:33] <illuminated> unless it creates the c99 or c9 or whatever it was bot in /tmp
[11:33] <illuminated> or something similar
[11:35] <JimBuntu> illuminated, I agree... if it's a malicious JS, then we can assume it's violated the browser and gained access to the user access the browser is given, from there on out, it requires specifics
[11:35] <illuminated> JimBuntu: one thing you can explain to me is the 'layered encryption' concept you mentioned though.   I've not ever done encryption.  So, that's an interesting thing
[11:36] <BootScout> EriC^https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CsVyfkRRCf/
[11:36] <JimBuntu> illuminated, Ok. But this isn't really an #ubuntu support topic, please join #ubuntu-offtopic and I will happily share what i know and think on this topic
[11:39] <BootScout> EriC^ should I close the TestDisk console?
[11:40] <nikolam> So do I really need to run development Ubuntu 18.10, to be able to have newer ZFS? (I can not read/write to April-created ZFS pool, because Ubuntu's ZFS is older then that)
[11:40] <nikolam> Or would I need to compile my own ZFS packages fro 18.04?
[11:40] <nikolam> for
[12:21] <nikolam> I see some updated packages for ZFS 0.7.5, have landed now in 18.04 LTS.. I updated them with synaptic. Will se how it works on reboot.
[12:28] <nikolam> No after updating ZFS in Ubuntu 18.04 is is still 0.7.5 ZFS and it can't import read/write ZFS pool created on current ZFS (illumos) in April 2018 , lacking com.delphix:spacemap_v2 (Space maps representing large segments are more efficient.)
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[12:45] <nikolam> Even after building .deb packages myself from ZFS for next Ubuntu release (ZfsOnLInux 0.7.9), there is still no support for April-created ZFS pool on illumos with current features, including: com.delphix:spacemap_v2 (Space maps representing large segments are more efficient.)
[12:45] <nikolam> Therefore, ZFS in Ubuntu can't mount r/w any newer ZFS pool created this year with current ZFS.
[12:47] <nikolam> Only conclusion could be that possibly ZFSOnLInux project itself does not enable that feature, still.. And if it is in illumos, it is probably being used in production a year before April or something..
[12:51] <linux8659> any tip to harden linux kernel on ubuntu ??(appart from sellinux)
[12:59] <nikolam> linux8659, do not run linux kernel, but apps in docker, inside illums LX branded zone? :P
[12:59] <prolyricsguy> Hello, I am yrics professional bot. I am work-in progress, so, expect bugs
[12:59] <prolyricsguy> Type one of the folIowing commands to dispIay the lyrics of that song
[12:59] <prolyricsguy> AvaiIable commands: !despacito, !rickroll (never gonna give you up)
[13:00] <upiede> !rickroll
[13:00] <prolyricsguy>  Now I'm singing in a channel, please wait
[13:00] <prolyricsguy> We're no strangers to love
[13:01] <prolyricsguy> refrain end
[13:01] <prolyricsguy> We've known each other for so long
[13:01] <prolyricsguy> Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it
[13:01] <prolyricsguy> Inside we both know what's been going on
[13:01] <prolyricsguy> We know the game and we're gonna play it
[13:01] <prolyricsguy> And if you ask me how I'm feeling
[13:01] <linux8659> ?? don t understand "illums LX branded zone"
[13:01] <prolyricsguy> Don't tell me you're too blind to see
[13:01] <prolyricsguy> ~REFRAIN X2~
[13:01] <prolyricsguy> (Give you up)
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[13:02] <prolyricsguy> We've known each other for so long
[13:02] <prolyricsguy> Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it
[13:02] <prolyricsguy> Inside we both know what's been going on
[13:02] <prolyricsguy> We know the game and we're gonna play it
[13:02] <Tin_man> so glad the ignore works
[13:02] <prolyricsguy> I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
[13:02] <prolyricsguy> Gotta make you understand
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[13:02] <prolyricsguy> I'm done, you can run commands now
[13:02] <linux8659> nikolam you mean I could use docker to isolate say firefox??
[13:02] <upiede> !despacito
[13:02] <prolyricsguy> Now I'm singing in a channel, please wait
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[13:03] <prolyricsguy> Fons1
[13:03] <prolyricsguy> DY
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[13:04] <prolyricsguy> Me voy acercando y voy armando el plan
[13:04] <linux8659> why polyricsguy is not banned yet..
[13:04] <prolyricsguy> Solo con pensarlo se acelera el pulso (Oh yeah)
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[13:04] <prolyricsguy> Todos mis sentidos van pidiendo más
[13:04] <prolyricsguy> Esto hay que tomarlo sin ningún apuro
[13:04] <nikolam> linux8659, hmm. it is usually not used to isolate desktop apps, yet some people use LX zones for isolating any linux app. Important thing is not the docker itself, but the isolation and not having linux kernel at all. :P
[13:04] <prolyricsguy> refrain begin:
[13:04] <upiede> Because it isnt a normal lyrics guy, it's a pro lyrics guy
[13:04] <prolyricsguy> Despacito
[13:04] <prolyricsguy> Quiero respirar tu cuello despacito
[13:04] <Tin_man> linux8659, i just use ignore, works for the bot, and upiede ..
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[13:04] <prolyricsguy> Para que te acuerdes si no estás conmigo
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[13:05] <wendico> sorry, that prolyricsguy, muted
[13:05] <prolyricsguy> Hasta provocar tus gritos
[13:05] <prolyricsguy> Y que olvides tu apellido
[13:06] <prolyricsguy> refrain end
[13:06] <prolyricsguy> Si te pido un beso ven dámelo
[13:06] <prolyricsguy> Yo sé que estás pensándolo
[13:06] <prolyricsguy> Llevo tiempo intentándolo
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[13:06] <prolyricsguy> Sabes que tu corazón conmigo te hace bom, bom
[13:06] <prolyricsguy> Sabes que esa beba está buscando de mi bom, bom
[13:06] <prolyricsguy> Ven prueba de mi boca para ver cómo te sabe
[13:06] <prolyricsguy> Quiero, quiero, quiero ver cuánto amor a ti te cabe
[13:06] <prolyricsguy> Yo no tengo prisa, yo me quiero dar el viaje
[13:06] <prolyricsguy> Empecemos lento, después salvaje
[13:06] <prolyricsguy> Pasito a pasito suave suavecito
[13:07] <prolyricsguy> Nos vamos pegando poquito a poquito
[13:07] <prolyricsguy> Cuando tú me besas con esa destreza
[13:07] <wendico> how do i get out of full screen of my virt-manager machine? ty
[13:07] <prolyricsguy> Veo que eres malicia con delicadeza
[13:07] <prolyricsguy> Pasito a pasito, suave suavecito
[13:07] <prolyricsguy> Nos vamos pegando, poquito a poquito
[13:07] <prolyricsguy> Y es que esa belleza es un rompecabezas
[13:07] <linux8659> how do I have a system without linux kernel at all??
[13:07] <prolyricsguy> Pero pa montarlo aquí tengo la pieza
[13:07] <upiede> Wendico: np
[13:07] <prolyricsguy> ~REFRAIN~
[13:07] <prolyricsguy> Despacito
[13:07] <nikolam> linux8659, taht said, one would not really need a docker to run firefox in LX zones on illumos.
[13:07] <prolyricsguy> Vamos a hacerlo en una playa en Puerto Rico
[13:07] <prolyricsguy> Hasta que las olas griten "¡ay, bendito!"
[13:07] <prolyricsguy> Para que mi sello se quede contigo
[13:08] <prolyricsguy> Pasito a pasito, suave suavecit0
[13:08] <prolyricsguy> Nos vamos pegando, poquito a poquito
[13:08] <prolyricsguy> Que le enseñes a mi boca
[13:08] <prolyricsguy> Tus lugares favoritos (favoritos, favoritos baby)
[13:08] <prolyricsguy> Pasito a pasito, suave suavecito
[13:08] <prolyricsguy> Nos vamos pegando, poquito a poquito
[13:08] <prolyricsguy> Hasta provocar tus gritos
[13:08] <prolyricsguy> Y que olvides tu apellido (DY)
[13:08] <prolyricsguy> Despacito
[13:08] <justmyname> anyone know how to activate 2 wireless card with disconnected the other wifi
[13:08] <prolyricsguy> I'm done, you can run commands now
[13:09] <oryois> how can i get .data of exe file in ubuntu ?
[13:10] <upiede> Ya
[13:11] <cods19> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[13:14] <upiede> !despacito
[13:14] <prolyricsguy> Now I'm singing in a channel, please wait
[13:14] <prolyricsguy> Hay
[13:14] <prolyricsguy> Fons1
[13:14] <prolyricsguy> DY
[13:14] <prolyricsguy> Hoh
[13:14] <prolyricsguy> Oh n0, oh no
[13:15] <prolyricsguy> Oh yeah
[13:15] <prolyricsguy> Diridiri, dirididi Daddy
[13:15] <prolyricsguy> Go
[13:15] <prolyricsguy> Sí, sabes que ya llevo un rato mirándote
[13:15] <prolyricsguy> Tengo que bailar contigo hoy (DY)
[13:15] <prolyricsguy> Vi que tu mirada ya estaba llamándome
[13:15] <prolyricsguy> Muéstrame el camino que yo voy (Oh)
[13:15] <prolyricsguy> Tú, tú eres el imán y yo soy el metal
[13:15] <prolyricsguy> Me voy acercando y voy armando el plan
[13:15] <prolyricsguy> Solo con pensarlo se acelera el pulso (Oh yeah)
[13:15] <prolyricsguy> Ya, ya me está gustando más de lo normal
[13:15] <prolyricsguy> Todos mis sentidos van pidiendo más
[13:16] <prolyricsguy> Esto hay que tomarlo sin ningún apuro
[13:16] <prolyricsguy> refrain begin:
[13:16] <prolyricsguy> Despacito
[13:16] <prolyricsguy> Quiero respirar tu cuello despacito
[13:16] <prolyricsguy> Deja que te diga cosas al oído
[13:16] <prolyricsguy> Para que te acuerdes si no estás conmigo
[13:16] <prolyricsguy> Despacit0
[13:16] <prolyricsguy> Quiero desnudarte a besos despacito
[13:16] <prolyricsguy> Firmo en las paredes de tu laberinto
[13:16] <prolyricsguy> Y hacer de tu cuerpo todo un manuscrito (sube, sube, sube)
[13:16] <prolyricsguy> (Sube, sube)
[13:16] <prolyricsguy> Quiero ver bailar tu pelo
[13:17] <prolyricsguy> Quiero ser tu ritmo
[13:17] <prolyricsguy> Que le enseñes a mi boca
[13:17] <prolyricsguy> Tus lugares favoritos (favoritos, favoritos baby)
[13:17] <prolyricsguy> Déjame sobrepasar tus zonas de peligro
[13:17] <prolyricsguy> Hasta provocar tus gritos
[13:17] <prolyricsguy> Y que olvides tu apellido
[13:17] <prolyricsguy> refrain end
[13:17] <pragmaticenigma> prolyricsguy: STOP!
[13:17] <prolyricsguy> Si te pido un beso ven dámelo
[13:17] <prolyricsguy> Yo sé que estás pensándolo
[13:17] <prolyricsguy> Llevo tiempo intentándolo
[13:17] <pragmaticenigma> !ops | prolyricsguy : not following channel guidelines
[13:17] <prolyricsguy> Mami, esto es dando y dándolo
[13:17] <cristian_c> pragmaticenigma: you should complain with upiede
[13:17] <prolyricsguy> Sabes que tu corazón conmigo te hace bom, bom
[13:18] <prolyricsguy> Sabes que esa beba está buscando de mi bom, bom
[13:18] <cristian_c> he has triggered the bot
[13:18] <upiede> Uh?
[13:18] <prolyricsguy> Ven prueba de mi boca para ver cómo te sabe
[13:18] <prolyricsguy> Quiero, quiero, quiero ver cuánto amor a ti te cabe
[13:18] <upiede> No
[13:18] <prolyricsguy> Yo no tengo prisa, yo me quiero dar el viaje
[13:18] <prolyricsguy> Empecemos lento, después salvaje
[13:18] <prolyricsguy> Pasito a pasito suave suavecito
[13:18] <prolyricsguy> Nos vamos pegando poquito a poquito
[13:18] <prolyricsguy> Cuando tú me besas con esa destreza
[13:18] <upiede> You have triggered it!
[13:18] <prolyricsguy> Veo que eres malicia con delicadeza
[13:18] <upiede> It's not my bot
[13:18] <prolyricsguy> Pasito a pasito, suave suavecito
[13:18] <cristian_c> upiede: you've done that three tims
[13:18] <prolyricsguy> Nos vamos pegando, poquito a poquito
[13:18] <cristian_c> !ops
[13:19] <prolyricsguy> Y es que esa belleza es un rompecabezas
[13:19] <prolyricsguy> Pero pa montarlo aquí tengo la pieza
[13:19] <prolyricsguy> ~REFRAIN~
[13:19] <upiede> Cristian_c: yes but it's not my bot
[13:19] <prolyricsguy> Despacito
[13:19] <prolyricsguy> Vamos a hacerlo en una playa en Puerto Rico
[13:19] <prolyricsguy> Hasta que las olas griten "¡ay, bendito!"
[13:19] <prolyricsguy> Para que mi sello se quede contigo
[13:19] <prolyricsguy> Pasito a pasito, suave suavecit0
[13:19] <prolyricsguy> Nos vamos pegando, poquito a poquito
[13:19] <pragmaticenigma> upiede: If that is your bot, you must turn that off immediately... you are in violation of the channel guidelines
[13:19] <prolyricsguy> Que le enseñes a mi boca
[13:19] <prolyricsguy> Tus lugares favoritos (favoritos, favoritos baby)
[13:19] <Alina-malina28> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[13:19] <Alina-malina28> "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
[13:19] <prolyricsguy> Pasito a pasito, suave suavecito
[13:20] <prolyricsguy> Nos vamos pegando, poquito a poquito
[13:20] <prolyricsguy> Hasta provocar tus gritos
[13:20] <prolyricsguy> Y que olvides tu apellido (DY)
[13:20] <prolyricsguy> Despacito
[13:20] <illuminated> wow things are exploding fast
[13:20] <prolyricsguy> I'm done, you can run commands now
[13:21] <toto_fr> #ubuntu-discuss
[13:33] <wendico> please, i know maybe offtopic but im on my ubuntu 14, started a virtual machine wih virt-manager hitted the button full screen and now cant get back to my desktop. how to exit full scree ty
[13:33] <wendico> ubuntu 18*
[13:36] <pragmaticenigma> wendico: what software is running your virtual machine. You need to provide more details
[13:38] <f0o> Anyone using the bionic cloud images? I cant get it to initialize network (it find the interface though). And also cloud-init is not being considered as startup service either, although that might be related to the missing network..
[13:41] <wendico> pragmaticenigma: virt-manager
[13:41] <wendico> lol stick stuck full screen haha
[13:42] <pragmaticenigma> if you haven't changed your settings, "Alt + F10" will exit full screen wendico
[13:49] <prolyricsguy> Hello, I am yrics professional bot. I am work-in progress, so, expect bugs
[13:49] <prolyricsguy> Type one of the folIowing commands to dispIay the lyrics of that song
[13:49] <prolyricsguy> AvaiIable commands: !despacito, !rickroll (never gonna give you up)
[13:50] <prolyricsguy_> Hello, I am yrics professional bot. I am work-in progress, so, expect bugs
[13:50] <prolyricsguy_> Type one of the folIowing commands to dispIay the lyrics of that song
[13:50] <prolyricsguy_> AvaiIable commands: !despacito, !rickroll (never gonna give you up)
[13:51] <prolyricsguy__> Hello, I am yrics professional bot. I am work-in progress, so, expect bugs
[13:51] <prolyricsguy__> Type one of the folIowing commands to dispIay the lyrics of that song
[13:51] <prolyricsguy__> AvaiIable commands: !despacito, !rickroll (never gonna give you up)
[13:52] <cancrogeno> !rickroll
[13:52] <prolyricsguy__>  Now I'm singing in a channel, please wait
[13:52] <prolyricsguy__> We're no strangers to love
[13:52] <prolyricsguy__> You know the rules and so do I
[13:52] <prolyricsguy__> A full commitment's what I'm thinking of
[13:52] <prolyricsguy__> You wouldn't get this from any other guy
[13:52] <prolyricsguy__> I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
[13:52] <prolyricsguy__> Gotta make you understand
[13:52] <prolyricsguy__> refrain begin:
[13:52] <prolyricsguy__> Never gonna give you up
[13:53] <prolyricsguy__> Never gonna let you down
[13:53] <prolyricsguy__> Never gonna run around and desert you
[13:53] <prolyricsguy__> Never gonna make you cry
[13:53] <prolyricsguy__> Never gonna say goodbye
[13:53] <prolyricsguy__> Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
[13:53] <andrex> Sigyn: фас)
[13:53] <prolyricsguy__> refrain end
[13:53] <compdoc> Im crying right now :(
[13:53] <prolyricsguy__> We've known each other for so long
[13:53] <prolyricsguy__> Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it
[13:53] <prolyricsguy__> Inside we both know what's been going on
[13:53] <prolyricsguy__> We know the game and we're gonna play it
[13:53] <prolyricsguy__> And if you ask me how I'm feeling
[13:54] <prolyricsguy__> Don't tell me you're too blind to see
[13:54] <ryuo> Can we do something about the spammer?
[13:54] <prolyricsguy__> ~REFRAIN X2~
[13:54] <prolyricsguy__> (Give you up)
[13:54] <compdoc> we can cry
[13:54] <wendico> pragmaticenigma: alt+f10 didnt work, nevertheless i was blind, now i understand why no answers lol, just hold my mouse top of screen to make appear exit full screen icon
[13:54] <prolyricsguy__> (Ooh) Never gonna give, never gonna give
[13:54] <prolyricsguy__> (Give you up)
[13:54] <prolyricsguy__> We've known each other for so long
[13:54] <prolyricsguy__> Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it
[13:54] <wendico> sorry to bother
[13:54] <prolyricsguy__> Inside we both know what's been going on
[13:54] <prolyricsguy__> We know the game and we're gonna play it
[13:54] <jcdutton>    just irc /ignore
[13:54] <prolyricsguy__> I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
[13:54] <prolyricsguy__> Gotta make you understand
[13:54] <prolyricsguy__> /REFRAIN X2/
[13:55] <prolyricsguy__> I'm done, you can run commands now
[13:55] <compdoc> inside, we both know prolyricsguy__ is a jerk
[13:55] <cancrogeno> !despacito
[13:55] <prolyricsguy__> Now I'm singing in a channel, please wait
[13:56] <prolyricsguy__> Hay
[13:56] <prolyricsguy__> Fons1
[13:56] <prolyricsguy__> DY
[13:56] <prolyricsguy__> Hoh
[13:56] <prolyricsguy__> Oh n0, oh no
[13:56] <prolyricsguy__> Oh yeah
[13:56] <prolyricsguy__> Diridiri, dirididi Daddy
[13:56] <prolyricsguy__> Go
[13:56] <prolyricsguy__> Sí, sabes que ya llevo un rato mirándote
[13:56] <prolyricsguy__> Tengo que bailar contigo hoy (DY)
[13:56] <prolyricsguy__> Vi que tu mirada ya estaba llamándome
[13:56] <prolyricsguy__> Muéstrame el camino que yo voy (Oh)
[13:57] <prolyricsguy__> Tú, tú eres el imán y yo soy el metal
[13:57] <prolyricsguy__> Me voy acercando y voy armando el plan
[13:57] <prolyricsguy__> Solo con pensarlo se acelera el pulso (Oh yeah)
[13:57] <prolyricsguy__> Ya, ya me está gustando más de lo normal
[13:57] <prolyricsguy__> Todos mis sentidos van pidiendo más
[13:57] <prolyricsguy__> Esto hay que tomarlo sin ningún apuro
[13:57] <prolyricsguy__> refrain begin:
[13:57] <compdoc> ops!
[13:57] <prolyricsguy__> Despacito
[13:57] <prolyricsguy__> Quiero respirar tu cuello despacito
[13:57] <andrex> !op
[13:57] <prolyricsguy__> Deja que te diga cosas al oído
[13:57] <prolyricsguy__> Para que te acuerdes si no estás conmigo
[13:57] <linux8659> I m new to gnome (18.04) and the resize icon for desktop icons do not work any work around ,it s so big my folders there!
[13:57] <prolyricsguy__> Despacit0
[13:58] <prolyricsguy__> Quiero desnudarte a besos despacito
[13:58] <prolyricsguy__> Firmo en las paredes de tu laberinto
[13:58] <prolyricsguy__> Y hacer de tu cuerpo todo un manuscrito (sube, sube, sube)
[13:58] <prolyricsguy__> (Sube, sube)
[13:58] <prolyricsguy__> Quiero ver bailar tu pelo
[13:58] <prolyricsguy__> Quiero ser tu ritmo
[13:58] <prolyricsguy__> Que le enseñes a mi boca
[13:58] <prolyricsguy__> Tus lugares favoritos (favoritos, favoritos baby)
[13:58] <prolyricsguy__> Déjame sobrepasar tus zonas de peligro
[13:58] <prolyricsguy__> Hasta provocar tus gritos
[14:01] <cristian_c> he has already k-lined by freenode several minutes ago
[14:01] <cristian_c> but he has appeared again
[14:01] <cristian_c> *has been
[14:01] <hggdh> cristian_c: it happens
[14:04] <linux8659> 9> I m new to gnome (18.04) and the resize icon for desktop icons do not work any work around ,it s so big my folders there!
[14:05] <alex__> hello: im running ubuntu 18.04 and i dont have sound. when i run pavucontrol my sound device is listed as "dummy output" when i type "cat /proc/asound/cards" i get this output :: http://pasteall.org/1062236 could someone please help me diagnose this problem?
[14:08] <jcdutton> alex__, have you tried clicking on sound settings
[14:08] <alex__> yes
[14:08] <alex__> also i tried reinstalling and reloading pulseaudio and alsa
[14:08] <alex__> alsa*
[14:08] <jcdutton> card 0  is the hdmi, card 1 is your sound
[14:11] <alex__> jcdutton, ok i know this. but when i go into pavucontrol it only shows "dummy output"
[14:15] <jcdutton> alex__, Which version of Ubuntu?
[14:18] <Kaos> Ik this is probably not the right place to ask but everywhere else is dead...
[14:18] <Kaos> Can you throttlestop on q67 chipset i5 2500k?
[14:18] <jcdutton> alex__, it is showing dummy probably because some other program has control of the mixer
[14:20] <alex__> jcdutton, it is ubuntu 18.04
[14:20] <alex__> jcdutton, how do i figure out what else has control of the mixer and correct the problem?
[14:21] <jcdutton> at the top right of the screen there is a speaker icon, setect that then select the settings icon (spanner)
[14:22] <jcdutton> then in the settings select sound
[14:22] <jcdutton> you can select sound card in there
[14:23] <alex__> jcdutton, im actually using xubuntu.
[14:34] <aleksander> is it safe to install another linux distro on the same partition but with different mount points?
[14:34] <aleksander> le'ts say / is mine main ubuntu and i'd set /distros/kali as new distro moun point
[14:35] <yeats> aleksander: I would just do a proper multi-boot or just use a VM
[14:43] <linux8659> gnome 18.04.1 can t resize dektop icons any one has same problem?
[14:45] <linux8659> right click -resize icon do not work
[14:50] <jeremies> Can I trust user Snapcrafters that https://snapcraft.io/eclipse doesn't contain malware?
[14:50] <jeremies> I install Eclipse from snap because the one from APT doesn't work it shows an error.
[14:51] <aleksander> yeats proper multi–boot? what do You mean
[14:54] <wss> hello,everyone
[14:55] <CarlFK> jeremies: not sure we can answer your trust question, but what's the error?
[14:58] <jeremies> The same as in https://askubuntu.com/questions/1045090/java-problem-with-eclipse-and-netbeans and the recommendation is to install eclipse with snap, but if I can't trust Snapcrafters, then I don't know what to do.
[15:05] <surgy> hello
[15:06] <surgy> im having problems getting my sound to work im running xubuntu 18.04 and when i run pavucontrol it says "dummy output" can someone help me please?
[15:08] <compdoc> surgy, boot ubuntu from a dvd/usb and see if the sound works
[15:08] <surgy> compdoc, if it does work what would that mean?
[15:09] <compdoc> something you installed or did might have messed it up
[15:09] <surgy> compdoc, this is a 100% fresh install right now, 0 modifications
[15:09] <surgy> swift110, !!
[15:10] <compdoc> does the command 'lspci' show the sound card?
[15:10] <surgy> 00:01.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices,
[15:14] <surgy> compdoc, yes its there 00:01.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices,
[15:14] <compdoc> surgy, i would recopmmend taking these steps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[15:15] <compdoc> lspci -vv  will show more info
[15:16] <surgy> compdoc, ok found something wierd right away: when i type pacmd and then list-sinks it shows "status-suspended" is that like muted?
[15:20] <surgy> compdoc, i think xubuntu is trying to send audio through my hdmi port by defuat and im not using hdmi but instead i want it to come out of my sound port. i think thats why its listed as device 1 and device 0.....
[15:21] <compdoc> surgy, maybe disable sound over hdmi in the computer's bios/cmow?
[15:21] <compdoc> coms
[15:21] <compdoc> cmos
[15:21] <surgy> compdoc, thats a good idea
[15:22] <Gathis> would i ask here about a shell script variable issue or somewhere else? https://pastebin.com/8SLyUx5q
[15:23] <Gathis> should be simple i think, i expect i'm being dumb :)
[15:25] <oerheks> Gathis, if you don't get an answer here, there is #bash also here on #freenode
[15:26] <Gathis> ok thanks, and yes, whether sh or bash i get the same result for this
[15:31] <linux8659>  anyone has icon size problem on gnome 18.04??
[15:32] <ioria> Gathis, backupfile=$backupprefix"_"$DATETIME.tar.gz    (quote the "_"
[15:33] <Gathis> thnx ioria
[15:33] <ioria> linux8659, you can still do  that on gnome-shell ? i didn't know
[15:33] <ioria> Gathis, ok
[15:33] <Gathis> yep, fixed it, thanks again :)
[15:34] <surgy> im running xubuntu 18.04 and i have no sound:  my sound card is detected and apears to be working properly but i have no sound. i suspect that xubuntu is trying to send sound through hdmi. i do not want to use hdmi for my sound. i want to use the speaker jack. this is onboard audio.
[15:35] <linux8659> talking about impossibility to resize desktop icons
[15:37] <Tin_man> surgy, in your settings what does it say for your output device?
[15:37] <Tin_man> mine says line out - built in audio
[15:37] <surgy> Tin_man, "dummy ouput"
[15:38] <Tin_man> does it have another option?
[15:38] <surgy> in alsa mixer it shows up as hdmi output. i dont want to use hdmi output i want to use the speaker jack on the back of the motherboard
[15:39] <surgy> Tin_man, also im in xubuntu i was askign here becuase no one is artound/has time to answer in xubuntu chan
[15:39] <Tin_man> i'm not sure how much different the settings are from x to regular ubuntu..
[15:43] <Tin_man> surgy, might look here, don't know if it will help. >>>> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/62818/how-can-i-switch-between-different-audio-output-hardware-using-the-shell
[15:44] <ledeni> surgy: install 'pavucontrol' and try to set right output
[15:44] <surgy> Tin_man, i used alsa mixer to change it from hdmi out to hd-generic output but everytime i close alsamixer and reopen it its like it defualts back to hdmi
[15:45] <surgy> ledeni, i have pavucontrol
[15:45] <surgy> ledeni, it only shows "dummy output"
[15:48] <ioria> linux8659, you have to use the nautilus settings, if you want to change the icon size on your Desktop
[15:50] <ioria> surgy, lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio"  | pastebinit
[15:50] <linux8659> ioria  where?
[15:50] <ioria> linux8659, the '3 lines' icon on the right
[15:50] <linux8659> if I open desktop in nautilus ,display icons view I cannot resize less than 50%
[15:51] <linux8659> yes but cannot be les 50% wich is huge
[15:52] <surgy> ioria, http://pasteall.org/1062390
[15:52] <rootweiler> My sister is dating a guy called nigel
[15:52] <rootweiler> The funny thing is her cat is also called nigel and he gets pissed we call him human nigel
[15:53] <linux8659> ioria ,is 50% always the minimum?
[15:53] <ioria> linux8659, yep, but maybe you can change that in gsettings
[15:53] <ioria> surgy, what is this ?  ibkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-config.c:656 kmod_config_parse: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf line 46: ignoring bad line starting with 'snd-hda-intel'
[15:54] <linux8659> ioria I looked but didn t find
[15:54] <ioria> linux8659, sy, no idea atm
[15:55] <linux8659> ioria thanks anyw
[16:02] <surgy> my audio isnt working.... i think it has something to do with ubuntu defualting to hdmi output. im not using hdmi
[16:03] <timeless2> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[16:14] <ledeni> surgy: what show 'pacmd list-sinks | grep name:'
[16:15] <CeBe13> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[16:19] <Sven_vB> I want to try a Ubuntu bionic live session from a USB stick, with persistence and with my wifi config copied from my Ubuntu trusty machine so I don't have to enter the passphrase. is Unetbootin still the way to go?
[16:22] <Sven_vB> nevermind, found the Wiki link.
[16:31] <celyr5> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[16:32] <afancy> HI, when I compiled madlib library, i got the following error:
[16:32] <afancy> In file included from /tmp/tmpJa2FVT/madlib-1.14.0/src/modules/assoc_rules/assoc_rules.cpp:11:0:
[16:32] <afancy> /tmp/tmpJa2FVT/madlib-1.14.0/src/ports/postgres/dbconnector/dbconnector.hpp:88:10: fatal error: boost/tr1/array.hpp: No such file or directory
[16:32] <afancy>  #include <boost/tr1/array.hpp>
[16:32] <afancy>           ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[16:32] <afancy> compilation terminated.
[16:33] <afancy> could anybody help me with this problem? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WKhgpYxVkS/
[16:36] <hggdh> afancy: did you apt-get build-dep madlib?
[16:39] <hggdh> afancy: also, the most up-to-date madlib I see is 1.3.0, and it seems you are trying to build 1.14.0. Better read the documentation to find out all dependencies
[16:41] <viju> Hello, I can't login to ubuntu after screen locks. All I get is a black screen nothing appears after which I have to hard reset. It is similar to this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1705884
[16:41] <viju> I am using ubuntu 16.04
[16:42] <viju> Linux 4.4.0-130-generic #156-Ubuntu
[16:42] <afancy> hggdh: http://madlib.apache.org/
[16:43] <afancy> it is 1.14.0
[16:43] <hggdh> afancy: yes, the version was suggested in the dir path of your build
[16:44] <afancy> could you help my problem
[16:45] <hggdh> afancy: so you need to find the dependencies. The error is because you are missing one of the boost files (which should be in libboost*-dev *if* we have the correct version)
[16:45] <afancy> it has been complaining "fatal error: boost/tr1/array.hpp: No such file or directory"
[16:45] <FlyCatch> Hello
[16:45] <afancy> but i have installed the liboost-dev
[16:45] <hggdh> afancy: so it seems you need a more up-to-date libboost
[16:46] <afancy> libboost1.65-all-dev
[16:46] <afancy> see https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4SQfXyxJQR/
[16:47] <hggdh> afancy: check in the madlib docs *what* version of libboost you need. You may have to get the source and build it as well (worst scenario).
[16:47] <hggdh> afancy: apart from that, not much we can do here.
[16:47] <afancy> it said >1.61
[16:47] <hggdh> afancy: then show your error to the madlib devs
[17:00] <Guest11836> Hi everyone. Could someone help with this. https://askubuntu.com/questions/1064455/recompiling-ubuntu-kernel-for-macosx
[17:00] <thonkpad> hello, I updated my Thinkpad bios via fwupd, but' fwupdmgr get-history
[17:02] <thonkpad> reports the UpdateState 'needs-reboot', although I rebooted several times already. Has anyone experienced something similar?
[17:04] <tomreyn> Guest11836: how is ubuntu installe don your hardware? does it run on bare metal or thrrough some intermediarry OS?
[17:05] <Guest11836> tomreyn: its installed on bare metal, no virtualization.
[17:05] <tomreyn> Guest11836: so why is the title of this (your?) post "Recompiling Ubuntu kernel for MacOSX"
[17:06] <Guest11836> tomreyn: ah yes, i did phrase that wrong, my bad. i meant macbook hardware as opposed to macosx.
[17:06] <Guest11836> let me change that
[17:06] <tomreyn> Guest11836: okay, so you are really just asking how to build a kernel on Ubuntu.
[17:07] <Guest11836> indeed, yes. i seem to be having a hard time understanding how restricted drivers can be built as part of the build process.
[17:07] <tomreyn> Guest11836: now my next question would be: why do you want / need to? it's not that i'm trying to withhold information there but since there can be easier options to achieve what you're trying to achieve.
[17:08] <Guest11836> tomreyn: mostly curiousity. id like to build try and see what a minimal kernel that can support ubuntu on my hardware would look like
[17:08] <jcdutton> Guest11836, Why do you want to compile the kernel ?
[17:11] <brainwash> thonkpad: I would check open and closed reports on https://github.com/hughsie/fwupd/issues
[17:12] <tomreyn> okay, so, first, for you to get a better understanding those basics: there is the linux kernel, there are drivers which are built into the kernel (and can be activated or deactivated at build time, and they will always stay that way), all of which are libre software, not proprietary, and there are kernel modules which can be built seperately, which can be licensed differently (but are often libre software, too). and those modules can be loaded
[17:12] <tomreyn> and unloaded during runtime.
[17:12] <tomreyn> Guest11836: ^
[17:13] <tomreyn> as such, proprietary drivers are always modules, never built into the kernel (at least that's my understanding).
[17:14] <Guest11836> tomreyn: sounds good, thanks. where are these drivers fetched from during the ubuntu installation process from the iso?
[17:14] <jcdutton> Guest11836, which restricted drivers are you actually using? You might not actually be using any of them
[17:16] <Guest11836> jcdutton: these are the modules that are loaded. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hPNFm79bDF/ ; if i try to compile the kernel without any of the proprietary drivers, the boot does not proceed past the ubuntu splash screen. im guessing there is a proprietary driver for wifi and maybe graphics, but that is a guess.
[17:17] <Guest11836> is there a way to know which modules are absolutely needed? (aside from trying to rmmod them one by one and see what causes abnormality)
[17:17] <Guest11836> jcdutton: ^
[17:17] <tomreyn> Guest11836: this may depend on the type of installation iso. i assume those you may choose to enable during the 18.04 desktop installation may actually come along with the iso for the initial installation (but i may be wrong there). later on, once you bootedinto the proper installation, those available as part of ubuntu are fetched from ubuntu's repositories.
[17:19] <viju> Hello, I can't login to ubuntu after screen locks. All I get is a black screen nothing appears after which I have to hard reset. It is similar to this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1705884
[17:19] <tomreyn> Guest11836: on a quick glance, i dont see proprietary modules loaded.
[17:20] <jcdutton> Guest11836, for a start, you don't need to worry about wifi. That does not affect the boot process. You just need it being able to load stuff off the disk.
[17:21] <tomreyn> Guest11836: libre modules may still load proprietary firmware, though, and may not (usually don't then) work without it.
[17:22] <Guest11836> tomreyn: sounds good thanks
[17:22] <viju> Can I get some help on that please?
[17:22] <Guest11836> jcdutton: yes i should try that first
[17:22] <jcdutton> The graphics is bog standard intel graphics, so no restricted stuff there.
[17:22] <tomreyn> viju: which ubuntu version? which desktop?
[17:23] <viju> 16.04. happens on all desktop - lubuntu, xfce and unity
[17:23] <Guest11836> jcdutton: tomreyn let me try to recompile the kernel once more, i might have messed something up the first time
[17:23] <jcdutton> Guest11836, change grub to boot without the "quiet splash"  option, you can then see where it goes wrong.
[17:24] <Guest11836> jcdutton: i see thanks
[17:24] <jcdutton> Guest11836, when building the kernel, you need both the zImage and the initrd  boot image.
[17:25] <jcdutton> Guest11836, it does not look to me that you are using any restricted drivers.
[17:26] <tomreyn> viju: i only know about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/xfce4-settings/+bug/1615286 but i guess it's not related then
[17:28] <tomreyn> viju: the 1705884 bug description is very terse, which may make it difficult to triage / reproduce.
[17:30] <NickNick> Just moved from 16.04 to 18.04 and my cystom launcher for firefox doesn't work
[17:31] <tomreyn> viju: what's your desktop (login) manager? what does 'lsb_release -ds' return? is there anything on the logs when this happens? can you still switch tty's when this happens?
[17:31] <ghormoon8> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[17:32] <NickNick> I'm using this config "Exec=firefox --class=FirefoxFocus --no-remote -P focus --private-window %u" but it won't open firefox in private window
[17:32] <NickNick> Any ideas?
[17:32] <viju> tomreyn: I just checked lightdm logs and it doesn't even list that error. Maybe it's the different error then
[17:33] <tomreyn> NickNick: are there any related error messages when you run this command form a terminal?
[17:33] <NickNick> tomreyn: No. The Firefox start as usual, but in "normal" window
[17:34] <tomreyn> viju: maybe there is something in ~/.xsession-errors or /var/log/Xorg.*.log* instead.
[17:34] <ioria> NickNick, works fine here (same king of upgrade)
[17:34] <ioria> *kind
[17:36] <NickNick> Any tips on how I can have two launchers for ubuntu?
[17:36] <NickNick> I mean, for Firefox*
[17:36] <NickNick> Both launchers I have work fine in 16.04
[17:38] <tomreyn> NickNick: after creating a 'focus' profile, running "firefox --class=FirefoxFocus --no-remote -P focus --private-window" does indeed spawn a new firefox window in private mode, whether or not firefox was already running.
[17:39] <tomreyn> *for me, on ubuntu 18.04.1
[17:39] <NickNick> tomreyn: but the command does not work in a .desktop file
[17:39] <NickNick> tomreyn: after desktop-file-install
[17:40] <tomreyn> NickNick: i haven't tried this, but you said it already doesn't work as expected when you run the command from a temrinal, so i focussed on this.
[17:40] <NickNick> tomreyn: The .desktop file: https://pastebin.com/g6XNLVfV
[17:41] <NickNick> tomreyn: I also install another launcher: https://pastebin.com/GPnwgYCB
[17:41] <tomreyn> it's better to try to solve a problem with less complexity first. trying to make the desktop file work means more complexity
[17:41] <NickNick> ok
[17:42] <NickNick> Here it says "firefox is already running"
[17:42] <NickNick> The command "firefox --class=FirefoxFocus --no-remote -P focus --private-window"
[17:42] <tomreyn> so maybe that's the case?
[17:43] <NickNick> No, that is not the problem
[17:43] <NickNick> It just won't open in private window
[17:44] <NickNick> The behaviour should be the same of righ-click on the "usual" firefox launcher and select "open new private window"
[17:44] <NickNick> But instead, it opens like a new instance
[17:45] <tomreyn> private window always means a new instance
[17:45] <NickNick> I meant a new instance but not in private
[17:46] <tomreyn> so can you close all firefox windows and make sure "pgrep firefox" returns nothing, and then run "firefox --class=FirefoxFocus --no-remote -P focus --private-window", and tell what happens?
[17:46] <pppepe> hi
[17:46] <NickNick> ok brb
[17:47] <tomreyn> NickNick: does it still open in a default mode then? if so, close all firefox proceeses again and run "firefox -P" and make sure this other profile actually exists.
[17:47] <tomreyn> the 'focus' profile, that is
[17:47] <tomreyn> hi pppepe
[17:48] <tomreyn> bye pppepe
[17:48] <NickNick2> "pgrep firefox" returns nothing
[17:48] <NickNick2> and "firefox --class=FirefoxFocus --no-remote -P focus --private-window" opened a private window
[17:51] <tomreyn> NickNick2: okay, so this works at least. then close it all again, run pgrep firefox again to make sure no processes are still running,t hen open a normal firefox window, then run then command to spawn the private window from a temrinal. does it work?
[17:52] <NickNick2> tomreyn: Yeah, it says "firefox is already running"
[17:53] <NickNick2> because of the parameter "--no-remote"
[17:53] <NickNick2> but it was intentional
[17:55] <NickNick2> Weird. The action "Open a New Private Window" works fine
[17:59] <NickNick2> Weird 2. Adding the launcher to .local/share/applications works as expected
[18:00] <NickNick2> Nvm. Just after adding the other launcher for firefox, the "focus" won't work anymore
[18:06] <tomreyn> i guess i don't have a handle there, am not into gnome 3 that much, yet.
[18:12] <NickNick2> alright, ty for the attention. I'll try a post on reddit
[18:17] <Keygen> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[18:43] <senaps> hi all, i have a squid proxy server running, it opens google and most of the websites, it shows my ip, it opens my applications, but i can't access twitter, youtube or reddit with it. what could be wrong? i get proxy refused
[18:49] <senaps> anybody able to help me with squid?
[18:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am confused a little here
[18:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> https://pastebin.com/0dLhJRS9
[18:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> This is my drive situation
[18:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> For some reason the root is at 100% usage
[18:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I had a power failiure so somehting broke I think
[18:54] <tomreyn> senaps: you're connected to irc form a country which tends to block those sites you can't acces through the proxy server. is the proxy server located in the same country? then it could be that its connections to these sites are obstructed. if the proxy server is wlsewhere, then the issue is more likely that your client (desktop) is resolving hostnames locally (receiving incorrect ip addresses as a result of their DNS lookups) but not through the
[18:54] <tomreyn> socks proxy (where DNS lookups would then return the correct IP addresses usually).
[18:55] <trollboy> so I'm installing the package nginx-full on ubuntu 18.04, the package contains the Addition module as per the web, but I'm not seeing any way to enable it.   /usr/share/nginx/modules-available/ has nothing similar sounding.
[18:55] <senaps> no proxy server is in the us, how would i fix this problem?
[18:56] <senaps> tomreyn, i use my normal internet, tor and this proxy, how would i set my dns so im good?
[18:56] <tomreyn> senaps: configure the clients (applications) where you configure the socks proxy to do remote dns / name resolution.
[18:57] <trollboy> ls /usr/share/nginx/modules/ reaps no ngx_http_addition_module.so as well
[18:58] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: root ("/") is not at 100%, boot ("/boot") is. this will prevent you from installing new kernel images.
[18:58] <senaps> tomreyn, firefox doesn't have that? i am using foxy proxy to handle proxy stuff, i just looked at proxy configs page of firefox, it doesn't have such thing neither
[18:59] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RemoveOldKernels
[19:00] <tomreyn> senaps: "Send DNS through SOCKS5 proxy?" is the foxyproxy option you need to use
[19:03] <senaps> tomreyn, squd is http proxy, i don't have that option for http proxy, both foxy proxy and firefox have this for socks5 only. or can i use squid with socks5?
[19:06] <pap> Hello guys, anyone knows how to dualboot ubuntu 18.04 with win7, ubuntu being first meaning already installed
[19:07] <tomreyn> trollboy: check /usr/lib/nginx/modules - but i dont think this module is included unless it's part of nginx-core
[19:08] <tomreyn> "nginx -V" lists the compile time options, so it should list any modules that were compiled in.
[19:09] <senaps> tomreyn, any other idea buddy? socks5 proxy type thing doesn't work on squid.
[19:09] <tomreyn> senaps: oh right, sorry, you'd indeed need to either use a different name server locally then or use a socks4a or 5 proxy, or a vpn (configured to do remote name resolution).
[19:10] <senaps> tomreyn,  can i just give the ip of proxy server first and then 8.8.8.8 and 4.2.2.4 for dns? or id have to do more than that?
[19:12] <FreeBDSM> hello
[19:12] <FreeBDSM> how to make conky stay on top of desktop?
[19:13] <FreeBDSM> it goes behind dekstop whenever I hit on desktop
[19:13] <FreeBDSM> kind of makes it useless
[19:13] <tomreyn> senaps: you'll need to configure an open dns server (open resolver) which returns unmodified results on your computer, then optionally use the proxy server to connect to the remote website
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: there's a small #conky channel if you want
[19:14] <FreeBDSM> I bet it's dead, but I'll try
[19:14] <tomreyn> senaps: https://public-dns.info/
[19:15] <FreeBDSM> advise me some nice vpn client
[19:15] <FreeBDSM> for openvpn
[19:15] <tomreyn> openvpn
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: ive tested the swedish mullvad for ubuntu in the past
[19:16] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: what's this?
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: a swedish vpn
[19:17] <FreeBDSM> :/
[19:18] <trollboy> tomreyn, I installed nginx-full which the ubuntu page says has the module
[19:18] <tomreyn> trollboy: what is "the ubuntu page"?
[19:21] <trollboy> tomreyn, the ubuntu package page that I closed and of course can't seem to find now.  If I do a nginx -v it comes back with "--with-http_addition_module" as a configure option.
[19:21] <FreeBDSM> what are fuse and loop modes of mounting?
[19:21] <trollboy> tomreyn, I'm just having a hard time getting this module to work.  It's supposed to enable add_before_body and add_after_body directives in the nginx.conf
[19:21] <FreeBDSM> first time I see that
[19:22] <tomreyn> trollboy: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/nginx-full does not state so, in case that's the page you meant.
[19:22] <trollboy> FUSE (File system in USEr space) is a new thing that lets you work with cool stuff like sshfs
[19:23] <trollboy> tomreyn, yeah I may have been looking at an old version through confirmation biased eyes due to the response of nginx -V
[19:23] <trollboy> FreeBDSM, I've never worked with loop before, so I couldn't say what that is
[19:24] <tomreyn> trollboy: i would also expect that a compile-time option of "--with-http_addition_module" should have enabled this module.
[19:24] <trollboy> FreeBDSM, ooooh, google says loop lets you mount things like iso's.  That's pretty cool
[19:24] <FreeBDSM> yeah
[19:24] <trollboy> tomreyn, as I would expect as well.  BUT, it's not working, thus my quandary
[19:25] <FreeBDSM> but I came from freebsd and you could just `mount -t iso9660`
[19:25] <FreeBDSM> there
[19:26] <tomreyn> trollboy: are you using it as indicated on http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/ngx_http_addition_module.html ?
[19:26] <trollboy> tomreyn, yes
[19:28] <tomreyn> trollboy: and the context you use it in is returned with a text/html mime tyoe?
[19:28] <FreeBDSM> `apt list --installed | grep fuse` says I have fuse installed, but why do I have no fuse user group?
[19:28] <FreeBDSM> `grep fuse /etc/group` - nothing
[19:29] <trollboy> tomreyn, verified Content-Type: text/html in the http headers.  The test url is just an index.html
[19:29] <tomreyn> trollboy: i dont know then, i suggest you ask in #nginx and provide you configuration
[19:29] <tomreyn> *youR
[19:29] <trollboy> tomreyn, I can show you my sites-enabled/default if you like?
[19:29] <trollboy> ok thanks tomreyn
[19:29] <m5w_> Hello.  I was experimenting with programmatically using file descriptors, and I ran fd='3'; exec "$fd">tmp in a directory.  Now, all of the files appear to be gone.  What's going on here?
[19:30] <m5w_> fortunately it was a git repo, so I have everything except my latest changes backed up
[19:30] <FreeBDSM> m5w I think you should rather ask on #bash
[19:30] <m5w_> ok
[19:43] <m5w_> for anyone wondering, my files are fine, but that command just redirects that terminal's stdout to the file tmp, so any ls commands appear to show nothing
[19:46] <FreeBDSM> is 3 the name of stdout?
[19:46] <FreeBDSM> afaik it is 1
[19:46] <FreeBDSM> On program startup, the integer file descriptors associated with the        streams stdin, stdout, and stderr are 0, 1, and 2, respectively.
[19:46] <FreeBDSM> http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/stdout.3.html
[19:47] <FreeBDSM> m5w_: ^
[19:49] <t3ra> any1 have experience setting up osticket on a home server?
[19:52] <irgendwer4711> hi, I have a problem on one of my 18.04 machines. softdep for crc32c is not working.
[19:54] <tomreyn> irgendwer4711: please show command input and output
[19:54] <tomreyn> !paste | irgendwer4711
[19:55] <irgendwer4711> tomreyn: what command??
[19:56] <tomreyn> irgendwer4711: i don't actually know what "softdep for crc32c" is, i assumed you ran a command and resulte din unexpected output.
[19:56] <irgendwer4711> tomreyn: a kernelproblem
[19:56] <tomreyn> oh whoops
[19:57] <irgendwer4711> yes very whoops
[19:57] <tomreyn> so you're doing what and see it not working how?
[19:57] <irgendwer4711> build a new kernel and rebooted the system
[19:57] <tomreyn> what kind of a kernel?
[19:58] <irgendwer4711> linux kernel
[19:59] <tomreyn> so an unmodified kernel.org kernel, mainline with ubuntu patches, or an ubuntu kernel from ubuntu repositories?
[19:59] <FreeBDSM> no, he said linux kernel
[19:59] <tomreyn> this can meana couple things
[19:59] <irgendwer4711> kernel from ubuntu source code: 4.15.18
[20:00] <irgendwer4711> it was backported a module_softdep for crc32c https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1778265
[20:05] <m5w_> FreeBDSM, I was trying to open fd 3 to point to the file "tmp"
[20:05] <m5w_> yes, 1 is stdout
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[20:06] <FreeBDSM> m5w_: so if 1 is stdout, why `exec 3 > tmp` would affect it?
[20:06] <tomreyn> irgendwer4711: i don't see a 4.15.18 ubuntu kernel anywehre, where did you get it?
[20:06] <m5w_> FreeBDSM, because I was effectively typing exec "3">tmp
[20:07] <m5w_> because "3" is quoted, it's treated as an argument
[20:07] <m5w_> so >tmp evaluates first
[20:07] <FreeBDSM> alright
[20:07] <FreeBDSM> still, 3 != 1
[20:07] <m5w_> >tmp redirects stdout to tmp
[20:07] <m5w_> it's the same as 1>tmp
[20:08] <irgendwer4711> tomreyn: are you a noob, you are annoying me!
[20:08] <tomreyn> irgendwer4711: yes, i'm a noob. let's stop talking then.
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[20:12] <CyberTails> Hi There. I'm trying to compile v4l-dub and I get this error: File not found: /lib/modules/4.5.0-30-generic/build/.config at ./scripts/make_kconfig.pl line 32, <IN> line 4. What do I need to install to circumvent this issue?
[20:18] <tomreyn> CyberTails: you dont seem to run ubuntu, or a non ubuntu kernel.
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[20:20] <prolyricsguy> Never gonna let you down
[20:20] <prolyricsguy> Never gonna run around and desert you
[20:20] <prolyricsguy> Never gonna make you cry
[20:21] <prolyricsguy> Never gonna say goodbye
[20:21] <prolyricsguy> Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
[20:21] <prolyricsguy> refrain end
[20:21] <prolyricsguy> We've known each other for so long
[20:21] <prolyricsguy> Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it
[20:21] <prolyricsguy> Inside we both know what's been going on
[20:21] <prolyricsguy> We know the game and we're gonna play it
[20:21] <prolyricsguy> And if you ask me how I'm feeling
[20:21] <prolyricsguy> Don't tell me you're too blind to see
[20:21] <prolyricsguy> ~REFRAIN X2~
[20:21] <prolyricsguy> (Give you up)
[20:22] <prolyricsguy> (Ooh) Never gonna give, never gonna give
[20:22] <prolyricsguy> (Give you up)
[20:22] <prolyricsguy> We've known each other for so long
[20:22] <prolyricsguy> Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it
[20:22] <prolyricsguy> Inside we both know what's been going on
[20:22] <prolyricsguy> We know the game and we're gonna play it
[20:22] <prolyricsguy> I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
[20:22] <prolyricsguy> Gotta make you understand
[20:22] <prolyricsguy> /REFRAIN X2/
[20:23] <ToAruShiroiNeko> tomreyn it is suggesting "apt-get -f install" but that doesnt work unfortunately\
[20:24] <ToAruShiroiNeko> https://pastebin.com/r6qhDztM
[20:24] <ToAruShiroiNeko> should I delete all but the latest?
[20:26] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: all but the last two is the common approach
[20:26] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: all but the last two and the one you are currently running is the common approach
[20:26] <tomreyn> the second is correct
[20:27] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am getting the sense that this is a manual process, one by one?
[20:27] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: possibly it is a manual process now, since unfortunately the automatism which should have done so did not work in your case.
[20:28] <ToAruShiroiNeko> how can I fix that automation?
[20:28] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: please run "dpkg -l linux\* | pastebinit"
[20:28] <ToAruShiroiNeko> sure
[20:28] <ToAruShiroiNeko> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NSj5SkwwZC/
[20:28] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: before we can look into fixing the automation we'll need to manually remove some kernel images to make apt work again.
[20:29] <memphisto> ToAruShiroiNeko: before going on and creating a script, maybe selecting it in synaptic would be faster
[20:30] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: pastebinit <( sudo apt-get update 2>&1; yes -n | sudo apt-get -f install 2>&1; )
[20:35] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: which ubuntu release is this? lsb_release -ds
[20:37] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: also the above command was incorrect, should have said:  sudo true; pastebinit <( sudo apt-get update 2>&1; yes no | sudo apt-get -f install 2>&1; )
[20:45] <martins> ctrl-Mctrl-M
[20:45] <martins> hi
[20:46] <scenick> Hello All, I wonder how to I enable touchpad tapping in fluxbox on 18.04?
[20:59] <minick_lowldoe> hi, I need to update my machine
[21:00] <minick_lowldoe> don't know how though
[21:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> tomreyn Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS
[21:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> your command seems to hang
[21:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko>  sudo true; pastebinit <( sudo apt-get update 2>&1; yes no | sudo apt-get -f install 2>&1; ) one
[21:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ah it completed
[21:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qnVnWhGkFp/
[21:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> tomreyn does that look ok?
[21:03] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: yes
[21:03] <ToAruShiroiNeko> so what should I do?
[21:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> delete generic ones betweem 87-116? ?
[21:04] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: did you read the wiki page i pointed you to earlier?
[21:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am reading it but conceptually that is what I need to do or not?
[21:04] <tomreyn> you should do this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RemoveOldKernels#Safely_Removing_Old_Kernels
[21:04] <Bashing-om> minusbear: Terminal way ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' .
[21:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> uname -r -> 4.4.0-119-generic
[21:05] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: ah, good, i just wanted to ask
[21:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> the man page is fairly detailed
[21:06] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont want to mindlessly run commands and break it :)
[21:06] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am kind of new to this where kernel makes me feel uneasy at the moment
[21:06] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: start with: sudo update-initramfs -d -k 4.4.0-87-generic
[21:07] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: then it's : sudo dpkg --purge linux-image-4.4.0-87-generic
[21:08] <tomreyn> if any of these return errors, let me know
[21:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> https://pastebin.com/K7Wsrwcg
[21:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I encountered that error on dependencies
[21:09] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: then it's : sudo dpkg --purge linux-image-4.4.0-87-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-87-generic
[21:09] <ice9> is the /etc/crypttab mandatory to unlock luks root or its enough to pass cryptdevice/root to the kernel options?
[21:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko> that did a lot of stuff
[21:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> boot now has 6% more space though
[21:12] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: sudo apt --purge autoremove
[21:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it is suggesting apt-get -f install instead
[21:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> due to dependencies
[21:12] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: do it, but it may fails for lack of space again. try nevertheless.
[21:13] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: i mean you should do as it says, sudo apt-get -f install
[21:15] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it is continuing to process it
[21:15] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it seem to failed with errors refering to dependencies
[21:15] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I suppose you want me to repeat the above process for the 101 entry?
[21:15] <tomreyn> please show
[21:15] <ToAruShiroiNeko> sure
[21:16] <ToAruShiroiNeko> do you want the whole thing or the last report?
[21:16] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it is going on for pages
[21:16] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Ah! "gzip: stdout: No space left on device"
[21:16] <ToAruShiroiNeko> burried among the commands
[21:16] <ToAruShiroiNeko> so I think this is what you meant above
[21:16] <tomreyn> okay, not needed then
[21:17] <ToAruShiroiNeko> sudo update-initramfs -d -k 4.4.0-101-generic
[21:17] <tomreyn> sudo update-initramfs -d -k 4.4.0-101-generic; sudo update-initramfs -d -k 4.4.0-103-generic; update-initramfs -d -k 4.4.0-104-generic
[21:17] <ToAruShiroiNeko> sudo dpkg --purge linux-image-4.4.0-101-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-101-generic
[21:17] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ah
[21:17] <ToAruShiroiNeko> sure
[21:17] <tomreyn> let's do some more, since we'll need a bit of space to let -f install succeed
[21:17] <ToAruShiroiNeko> rm: cannot remove '/var/lib/initramfs-tools/4.4.0-104-generic': Permission denied
[21:18] <tomreyn> sorry, the last one lacked 'sudo'
[21:18] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ah!
[21:18] <ToAruShiroiNeko> indeed
[21:18] <ToAruShiroiNeko> successfully completed
[21:18] <ToAruShiroiNeko> -f again?
[21:18] <tomreyn> not yet.
[21:18] <spl33n> Hello all, I encounter issue when I boot my laptop. Before grub prompt, one in two i never see grub prompt and boot processus freeze with ubuntu screen color,
[21:19] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: sudo dpkg --purge linux-image-4.4.0-101-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-101-generic linux-image-4.4.0-103-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-103-generic linux-image-4.4.0-104-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-104-generic
[21:19] <spl33n> often I have to force the stop and try again
[21:20] <tomreyn> spl33n: discuss your ubuntu version, desktop or server, architecture if not intel 64-bit (amd64), graphics hardware.
[21:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it completed
[21:22] <tomreyn> spl33n: also, is this onhly happening recently, and if so, what did you recently change that may have introduced this issue (ubuntu upgrade? driver changes, any hardware or bios changes)?
[21:22] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: without errors?
[21:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont see any
[21:22] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: then "sudo apt-f install"
[21:23] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: then "sudo apt -f install"
[21:23] <ToAruShiroiNeko> there were a few "not found, skipping" warnings
[21:23] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: thats ok
[21:23] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ran that
[21:23] <ToAruShiroiNeko> progress 0%
[21:24] <ToAruShiroiNeko> many mdadm's which I read as madman :p
[21:25] <ToAruShiroiNeko> While that is continuing I have a seperate qesiton for a different ubuntu machine
[21:25] <ToAruShiroiNeko> that one has an end kernel panic
[21:26] <ToAruShiroiNeko> "kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on" I think
[21:26] <ToAruShiroiNeko> unknown-block(0,0)
[21:27] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: this may be a broken initrd, possibly fstab, too.
[21:27] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it is a virtual machine so I have flexibility
[21:28] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I would prefer to try to recover/fix than a clean install
[21:28] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it died during a power failiure :(
[21:28] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am looking at https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1751574
[21:28] <ToAruShiroiNeko> not exactly my problem I suppose
[21:29] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: try holding shift at boot on the VM to bring up grub menu, then try a different kernel (from advanced options)
[21:29] <tomreyn> if shift doesn't work (try hitting it multiple times, too), try escape instead.
[21:29] <ToAruShiroiNeko> used one prior kernel
[21:29] <ToAruShiroiNeko> that seemingly did the trick
[21:30] <FreeBDSM> `apt list --installed | grep fuse` says I have fuse installed, but why do I have no fuse user group?
[21:30] <FreeBDSM> `grep fuse /etc/group` - nothing
[21:30] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: then make sure /boot and / hevn't run full there either, and do a full upgrade
[21:31] <tomreyn> FreeBDSM: why would you like to have one?
[21:31] <FreeBDSM> tomreyn: it should be used to manage which users are allowed to mount, afaiu
[21:32] <tomreyn> FreeBDSM: that's what 'disk' is for
[21:32] <FreeBDSM> for some reason I don't like mounting inside my user's home dir
[21:32] <ToAruShiroiNeko> by the way the -f command on thge first machine kind of failed due to disk space
[21:33] <tomreyn> FreeBDSM: you'd also need to allow user mounting in fstab, or use udisks2
[21:33] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: again :-/
[21:33] <FreeBDSM> fstab is for static mounts, what does it have to do with allowing user to mount?
[21:33] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: well you know the process, right
[21:34] <FreeBDSM> I'm talking about arbitrary resources mounted to /mnt/something or /media/something
[21:34] <tomreyn> FreeBDSM: there are 'user' and 'users' options which can be set for a static mount, to allow a restrcited user to mount it
[21:34] <FreeBDSM> tomreyn: I don't need static mounts
[21:35] <tomreyn> FreeBDSM: fine with me,then use udisks2 and have it mount to /media/$user/MOUNTNAME
[21:36] <FreeBDSM> what is udisks2?
[21:37] <FreeBDSM> udisks provides a daemon udisksd, that implements D-Bus interfaces used to query and manipulate storage devices, and a command-line tool udisksctl, used to query and use the daemon.
[21:37] <FreeBDSM> why would I need that?
[21:37] <tomreyn> because you want to mount, as a restricted user, without defining static mounts beforehand.
[21:38] <FreeBDSM> wouldn't adding my user to group `disk` and chown'ing /mnt/ and /media to root:disk just do the trick?
[21:38] <ToAruShiroiNeko> tomreyn so what command should I run to list all linux kernels? the chat buffer cut off your earlier remark :(
[21:39] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: maybe, but i would not recommend changing group ownership of these locations unless you have verified that this is not interfering with other processes.
[21:40] <FreeBDSM> ToAruShiroiNeko: apt list --installed | grep linux-image
[21:40] <tomreyn> !irclog | ToAruShiroiNeko
[21:40] <tomreyn> !logs | ToAruShiroiNeko
[21:41] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: but indeed, " apt list --installed linux-image\* " should work to list them
[21:41] <ToAruShiroiNeko> yeah
[21:43] <ToAruShiroiNeko> so uname -r pointed to 119-generic, I should not delete that right?
[21:44] <FreeBDSM> are ubuntu's packages sorted by groups?
[21:44] <FreeBDSM> in freebsd all ports are grouped
[21:45] <tomreyn> FreeBDSM: you may run into more issues than you are used to if you'll use a modern (systemd based) linux distro the way you're used from freebsd. there's some more complexity involved in a couple things, not everything is as simple (and thus clear, but also less automated) as it is in freebsd, so it's important to understand what automations are in place and to 'play by the rules' to not break those.
[21:45] <tomreyn> FreeBDSM: there is https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/
[21:46] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: no you should not
[21:46] <FreeBDSM> how to make apt show packages prefixed with package section?
[21:47] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: keep the currently running kernel (4.4.0-119-generic) as well as the two latest one (with the highest numbers)
[21:48] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: you also dont need to delete them all manually, just a couple more.
[21:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> right
[21:49] <tomreyn> FreeBDSM: ther eis also "tasksel --list-tasks"
[21:49] <FreeBDSM> `tasksel - a user interface for installing tasks` wut
[21:49] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I did run the -f again
[21:50] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: and, is it done, yet?
[21:50] <FreeBDSM> ah, `installing tasks` are like package groups grouped by tasks
[21:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it seems ot be
[21:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> sudo apt --purge autoremove ?
[21:50] <ToAruShiroiNeko> should I attempt that?
[21:50] <FreeBDSM> why --purge?
[21:51] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: yes. but check how much space you have left in /boot first
[21:51] <tomreyn> FreeBDSM: why not?
[21:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> 68% used
[21:51] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: okay, i guess this should work then
[21:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> 147mb available
[21:51] <tomreyn> hah not much
[21:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> rather M
[21:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> total is 472M
[21:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> :o
[21:52] <tomreyn> actually for --purge remove you dont need space, just for apt -f install, which is already done
[21:52] <tomreyn> uuh thats way too little for /boot nowadays
[21:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> If there is a way to resize it, I would not mind
[21:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> drive does have the space
[21:53] <tomreyn> unpartitioned space outside of the LVM?
[21:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont know
[21:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> but its a +100gb drive that is mostly empty
[21:54] <tomreyn> +100GB, meaning 0+100GB, so 100GB?
[21:54] <ToAruShiroiNeko> more than 100gb I mean
[21:55] <tomreyn> i see. you can: sudo parted -ls | pastebinit
[21:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BsVMnJcpHT/
[21:56] <qwebirc90849> Hi, I was wondering can anyone help me understand what radeon.dpm=0 actually does. I have an older A10-5800K APU with integrated HD 7660D GPU.
[21:56] <qwebirc90849> I am unable to boot into pretty much most linux distros without it.
[21:56] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: the wiki page you looked at earlier also discusses how to make your system remove old kernel images automatically, if you want to revisit this.
[21:57] <BudgetSlug> How would one keep the dock and top bar keep there semi-transparency when windows are maximized or touching the edge of the screen?
[21:57] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: repartitioning this to resize /boot wouldnt be too much fun.
[21:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ya, I guess so :(
[21:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I have 4 ubuntu installations so I am repeaitng the process on the others
[21:58] <FreeBDSM> tomreyn: what does `tasksel --list-tasks` lists? those are available tasks, not installed ones, right?
[21:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> so to auto remove old kernel images...
[21:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> is it worthwhile?
[21:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it is not like one downloads a kernel every day
[22:01] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: you'd need to shrink the root file system, then shrink its LV, move all extents to the start of the PV, then shrink the LVM PV, then shrink parition 5, then move it to the end of the extended partition, then shrink the extended partiion, then grow partition 1, then grow the /boot file system.
[22:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> watching paint dry sounds more fun than that :)
[22:01] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: it's definitely worth it to make sure old kernels are automatically removed. you don't want /boot to run full, think abnout how much time it took you now to recover from this.
[22:02] <tomreyn> FreeBDSM: both installed and non installed. the first column indicates the state. u=uninstalled, i=installed
[22:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> indeed, that I agree
[22:04] <tomreyn> qwebirc90849: "modinfo radeon | grep ^parm" lists all available module parameters and their description
[22:05] <tomreyn> qwebirc90849: those 'descritpions' can be (too) short, in what case a web search may help
[22:06] <qwebirc90849> Yeah, got only this.
[22:06] <qwebirc90849> parm:           dpm:DPM support (1 = enable, 0 = disable, -1 = auto) (int)
[22:07] <qwebirc90849> It's the dynamic power managment, what I am trying to figure out is why I am unable to boot without it.
[22:07] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I think thats why my kernel broke in the first place
[22:07] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it partially downloaded the last one or something due to space issues
[22:07] <tomreyn> qwebirc90849: your web search would probably point you (amongst other) to https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/ which is the website of the folks maintaining this driver.
[22:08] <tomreyn> qwebirc90849: it also mentions "Dynamic Power Management (DRM)". power management usually means attempting to save power, but doing so can come at a loss of stability.
[22:13] <qwebirc90849> tomreyn: Yeah, from what I can see I am on N.Insland which does support DPM, so I find it strange I am unable to boot Ubuntu when it's enabled.
[22:14] <tomreyn> qwebirc90849: i agree, this should not be, and you should file a bug report unless one already exists.
[22:15] <tomreyn> qwebirc90849: that'S assuming you're running the latest GA or HWE kernel for your ubuntu reelase, and your ubuntu release is not EOL
[22:15] <jeremy31> qwebirc90849 file your own bug report and let one of the triage team decide if it is a duplicate
[22:16] <tomreyn> qwebirc90849: it would also be good to see what was logged for the unsuccessful boot.
[22:17] <tomreyn> qwebirc90849: to file a bug report, just run "ubuntu-bug radeon"
[22:19] <qwebirc90849> I am on the latest Ubuntu LTS 18.04.1, what I did do, to check if I could resolve the issue is install the latest kernel using the ukuu, to v4.17.14. But it was the same issue with the default version that came with the install.
[22:19] <qwebirc90849> So I am not sure if this will affect the bug report ?
[22:20] <tomreyn> qwebirc90849: what do you think might affect the buig report (and how would it)?
[22:21] <qwebirc90849> How would you recommend me to debug the boot ? After selecting Ubuntu in the grub menu I can see a black screen with some text that flashes quickly before it reboots.
[22:21] <tomreyn> qwebirc90849: it does not matter which of these two kernels you run when you submit the bug report.
[22:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> tomreyn why would it be using the 112 kernel when 131 is available?
[22:22] <qwebirc90849> I am new to the Linux world, not sure how these go to be honest. Do they only provide support for the kernel provided with the install or what.
[22:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> would that change with next reboot?
[22:22] <tomreyn> qwebirc90849: i suggest you post the bug report using "ubuntu-bug radeon" first of all, it will already contain debug information, possibly all that's needed.
[22:23] <qwebirc90849> tomreyn: hmmm, getting a message that the package is not installed ?
[22:23] <tomreyn> qwebirc90849: once this is done, if more information is needed, you will be asked to provide it, and instructions will be given. you can also look for yourself in /var/log/syslog* - those files should have more information on what happened during the failed boots.
[22:24] <tomreyn> qwebirc90849: sorry, just run ubuntu-bug without options and select the X.org option
[22:25] <tomreyn> ToAruShiroiNeko: yes
[22:26] <tomreyn> as long as 131 is bootable ;)
[22:26] <qwebirc90849> Need to get my laptop for the IRC.
[22:29] <BudgetSlug> Do you need to configure Fail2Ban after installing?
[22:29] <tomreyn> BudgetSlug: haven't used it in a looong time, but back then it would work on ssh automatically
[22:30] <tomreyn> !logs | qwebirc38895
[22:30] <BudgetSlug> tomreyn: Awesome, thank you. Do you use something now to replace it or just don't have a requirement for it anymore?
[22:31] <tomreyn> qwebirc38895: and please do yourself and us a favor and pick a different nickname for this and the other user. just type, at the beginning of a line: /nick MyNewSelfChosenNick
[22:31] <tomreyn> nightwalkerkg: :) ty
[22:31] <nightwalkerkg> Sure thing.
[22:33] <tomreyn> BudgetSlug: i allow authentication only with ssh keys, sometimes use a non standard port, sometimes ip address based firewalling.
[22:33] <tomreyn> and install security patches when they become available
[22:37] <Dudely> i was finaly able to restore my server from back up
[22:37] <dirac1> Hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu server 64bits and on the installation I'm receiving Hash Sum mismatchs in the apt-get update part.
[22:38] <Dudely> Now I still cant ssh into it the connection just times out...
[22:38] <nightwalkerkg> Okay, the bug has been reported.
[22:39] <tomreyn> nightwalkerkg: great, got a bug # to look at?
[22:39] <nightwalkerkg> Should I try to boot with it and check the /var/log/syslog ?\
[22:39] <BudgetSlug> Any recommendation for virus, malware, or rootkit scanners?
[22:39] <nightwalkerkg> Sure, the bug number is 1786647.
[22:40] <tomreyn> dirac1: which media type are you installing from? a cdrom, an usb attached storage, an other internal storage?
[22:40] <tomreyn> bug 1786647
[22:40] <tomreyn> nightwalkerkg: looks good!
[22:41] <tomreyn> Dudely: ssh server is running?
[22:42] <dirac1> Hello I'm having issues to install a ubuntu Server instance, I'm receibing Hash sum mismatch while doing apt-get updates
[22:42] <dirac1> any suggestion? :/
[22:42] <dirac1> receiving*
[22:43] <tomreyn> BudgetSlug: it's better to take protective measures and not let your system get compromise din the first place and maybe use software which monitors the critical parts of your system for changes (which you will then have to revierw on a regular basis, not fun) if you are very serious about it.
[22:43] <dirac1> And IT IS a Fresh install o_o I'm on the live-cd
[22:43] <tomreyn> BudgetSlug: still, if you want to scan after the fact, the common utilities would be rkhunter, lynis, clamav, maldet, and probably some others i cant think of right now
[22:44] <tomreyn> dirac1: so it's a cd-rom/dvd-rom, optical media, right?
[22:45] <dirac1> usb media tomreyn.
[22:45] <dirac1> I downloaded the image a few hours ago.
[22:45] <dirac1> And it worked with other device a few hours ago...
[22:45] <dirac1> So I'm not sure what's happening.
[22:46] <BudgetSlug> tomreyn: I just ran a Lynis audit and it noticed some of the suggestions about virus, malware, or rootkit scanners. Do you have some boot camp style documentation for how to be preemptive in your server protection?
[22:47] <tomreyn> dirac1: i suggest you verify the ISO download against its checksum (i can provide instructions). then write the iso to usb media again, this time with the usb stick connected to a different usb port, and using the etcher.io software to write it, which will verify the image got written properly. then you boot from it again, and try to install again.
[22:48] <dirac1> But the first time it worked!
[22:48] <qwebirc8287> How can I make sure my xubuntu install won't update the kernal?
[22:48] <tomreyn> dirac1: there can be many reasons why it would still fail now and not last time.
[22:49] <qwebirc8287> Does anyone know how to make it so ubuntu won't update kernal automatically
[22:49] <dirac1> ._. well I'll create the usb media again.
[22:49] <tomreyn> BudgetSlug: you'd configure an intrustion detection system. there are HIDS and NIDS, those terms will get you some results on a web or ubuntu package archive search.
[22:50] <BudgetSlug> tomreyn: Awesome, thanks again.
[22:50] <tomreyn> dirac1: i dont force you to do anything, just providing suggestions ;-)
[22:50] <derpyhsi> clear
[22:50] <derpyhsi> Oops
[22:51] <tomreyn> qwebirc8287: could you pick a different nickname, like so: /nick MyNewNicknameIsBetter
[22:51] <dirac1> It simply amaze the situation o_o
[22:52] <dirac1> The situation amaze me.
[22:53] <tomreyn> qwebirc8287: please also discuss why you're trying to do this, it is usually a bad idea, since you will not receive important security updates.
[22:53] <qwebirc8287> I applied a patch to make sure my trackpad works on ubuntu
[22:53] <qwebirc8287> updating the kernal would make it so my trackpad no longer works
[22:54] <qwebirc8287> so I want to make sure it's disabled so I can just install regular updates
[22:54] <oerheks> qwebirc8287, check out your update menu, and disable something
[22:54] <Braners> Yeah I disabled everything on my update menu but i want to have regular ubuntu updates. Do I just have to make sure I don't install the kernal manually?
[22:55] <oerheks> pinning a kernel to the current one and asking for updates will give a conflict.
[22:55] <Braners> So what should I do?
[22:55] <jeremy31> Braners so how is the current kernel supporting your trackpad?
[22:56] <Braners> I applied a patch
[22:56] <Braners> compiled kernal and applied a patch
[22:56] <Braners> So I just want to make sure it won't update
[22:56] <oerheks> care to share what patch for what touch device?
[22:57] <Braners> it's a chinese generic laptop
[22:57] <tomreyn> nightwalkerkg: i notice on the bug report that you're using graphics drivers from oibaf's PPA. you should add a note on the bug report as to whether this also happens with the default rivers on ubuntu.
[22:57] <Braners> telcast f7
[22:58] <tomreyn> BudgetSlug: welcome ;-)
[22:58] <nightwalkerkg> tomreyn: done.
[22:59] <nightwalkerkg> I usually install Oibaf because it helps with some lag I notice in the UI, mostly animations.
[23:01] <Braners> I think this command would do the trick right? - sudo apt-mark hold linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-headers-$(uname -r) linux-image-$(uname -r) linux-image-extra-$(uname -r)
[23:01] <tomreyn> nightwalkerkg: right, he sometimes has some improvements. either due to newer versions, or just changed defaults which are not applied to ubuntu proper for compatibility reasons (may improve things with one chipset, make it worse with others)
[23:02] <qwebirc93055> Hey there... I've done a deal of searching, but haven't found the answer yet... Has the update from 16.04 LTS to 18.04 LTS been released?  Thanks.
[23:03] <nightwalkerkg> I do notice two things on boot : AMD-VI: Disabling interupt remapping and [Firmware Bug]: AMD-Vi: No southbridge IOAPIC found.
[23:03] <nightwalkerkg> I am looking into them atm. These two flash before the Ubuntu logo appears on boot.
[23:04] <tomreyn> Braners: i think so, too. i also think its the wrong thing to do . i'd rather use a mouse than not have the latest security patches installed. i'd rather file a bug report and provide the patch i used to make it work, in general linux or at least ubuntu, for everyone.
[23:05] <tomreyn> qwebirc93055: not yet.
[23:05] <qwebirc93055> thanks tomreyn
[23:06] <qwebirc93055> bye all!
[23:06] <Braners> A mouse just isn't an option all the time
[23:06] <tomreyn> nightwalkerkg: since you have the latest available firmware installed, the only option (which may seem promising) would be to do this: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[23:07] <Braners> I don't think they will add the patch to the kernal it's been a few months now since the bug was reported
[23:07] <tomreyn> Braners: just until it's fixed in ubuntu
[23:07] <nightwalkerkg> tomreyn: will check. Also found this: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2254677\
[23:07] <tomreyn> Braners: so you're aware of a bug report? can we see it?
[23:08] <Braners> let me look for it give it one moment
[23:10] <tomreyn> nightwalkerkg: i guess this can work, too, but it would be better to pretend that this is a Windows system to make the BIOS not fall flat on its nose.
[23:10] <nightwalkerkg> Yeah, just tried the script. Rebooted to see.
[23:11] <nightwalkerkg> Nah, removed the radeon.dpm=0 and still the same issue.\
[23:12] <nightwalkerkg> And the AMD-Vi errors are still present.
[23:12] <tomreyn> nightwalkerkg: can you show the kernel options applied during this boot?
[23:13] <tomreyn> i mean parameters, not options
[23:13] <Braners> here's an example bug report on a related laptop
[23:14] <Braners> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1728244
[23:15] <nightwalkerkg> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.17.14-041714-generic root=UUID=ee4b6e27-d6ff-4335-a4f0-a9aa0e42817f ro acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2013" quiet splash radeon.dpm=0
[23:16] <Braners> Maybe I should report the bug for the telcast with the patch I used?
[23:18] <tomreyn> nightwalkerkg: try an earlier windows version
[23:19] <nightwalkerkg> I got a list of all versions from the DSDT tablets.
[23:19] <nightwalkerkg> Will try all of them.\
[23:21] <wendico> anyboy knows how to add a wireless network to a virt-manager machine? im on ubuntu 18 up to date and running ubutu 18 server on ther virtual machine. i want this virtual server to have a wireless network. Thank you.
[23:22] <wendico> if off-topic, could u direct me to the right channel? thank you again.
[23:23] <Wild_Man> wendico, you have to have a usb wifi adapter
[23:23] <esotericnonsense> sorry for a bloody obvious question but googling is failing me due to the simplicity of the terms
[23:23] <esotericnonsense> which package contains the `ip` binary (e.g. ip link, ip route, ...)
[23:24] <wendico> wild_man: i have a pci express network wifi adapter on host, must be usb to do the trick? i think i ca get one. thank you for your fast answer
[23:25] <Wild_Man> wendico, an internal card is not able to be recognized in a vm, you have to have a usb adapter, i guess you not want to use te internet connection from your host?
[23:26] <wendico> Wild_Man: thank you i think i understand the trick, i just let the guess os to detect the usb hardware no matter what it is, if wifi, then i have a wifi, is pretty obvious
[23:26] <tomreyn> Braners: yes you should
[23:26] <esotericnonsense> got it. iproute2.
[23:27] <wendico> thank you for opennin my eyes, i dont care about real connection, i just need a wifi adapter on my virtual machine to learn and test wifi configuration skills only
[23:27] <Wild_Man> wendico, good luck, it should not be to hard once you get a usb adapter
[23:28] <Wild_Man> wendico, choose usb adapter carefully and make sure it will do what you want it to do
[23:28] <wendico> i just found my usb adapter, shutting down guess and trying to add the hardware
[23:29] <tomreyn> wendico: i think you could also do it with a pci card, if using kvm. both usb and pci pass-through is possible. but configuring it is not trivial.
[23:30] <tomreyn> esotericnonsense: how to find out next time: dpkg -S $(which ip)
[23:31] <Braners> WIll do
[23:31] <esotericnonsense> tomreyn: yeah that's what I did. realised I can just search on a server that already has it.
[23:31] <esotericnonsense> cheers though. :)
[23:31] <wendico> im using virt-manager package to set virtual machines on ubuntu desktop. is that means im using kvm?
[23:32] <wendico> im not sure if vir-manager is a software itself or just a gui to set built in virtual machine potential of ubuntu 18
[23:33] <esotericnonsense> wendico: it's software that takes advantage of libvirt, which can use kvm.
[23:33] <esotericnonsense> virt-manager is a frontend to libvirt basically.
[23:34] <tomreyn> esotericnonsense: there is also "apt-file" in case you don't have a package installed, yet, or "Search the contents of packages" on https://packages.ubuntu.com/
[23:35] <tomreyn> wendico: you should really read up more about what you'Re doing ;)
[23:35] <Braners> can you explain what security risk i run by not updating kernal?
[23:36] <tomreyn> wendico: i'm pretty sure you installed kvm on the server at some point. and, as esotericnonsense explained, there is also libvirt on the server. and virt-manager communicates with libvirt remotely.
[23:36] <esotericnonsense> Braners the kernel has all sorts. drivers for hardware, handles IP/tcp/etc, the list is endless.
[23:37] <Braners> and why does not updating it put me at risk
[23:37] <nightwalkerkg> tomreyn: Tried all of them and non boot. 2013, 2012, 2009 and 2006 do the same thing as regular boots. But 2001 with SP versions do not reboot, but go into a black screen with this.
[23:37] <tomreyn> wendico: so what you're trying to do now is either PCI or USB pass-through (from VM host, your server, to VM guest, the test server)
[23:37] <nightwalkerkg> https://pastebin.com/QuPC7sXr
[23:37] <esotericnonsense> Braners: so imagine kernel version x.1 has a remote code execution exploit in tcp handling (just inventing a non-problem here) and x.2 fixes it.
[23:37] <esotericnonsense> Braners: you run x.1 and anyone can just root your machine remotely. bam it's theirs.
[23:37] <wendico> tomreyn, note really, i just want a virtual server that detects a wifi card, nothing else, i dont even care if it can really access internet
[23:38] <Braners> ahh ok I see
[23:38] <wendico> but no matter what hardware type i add to my virtual machine it never detects a wifi card
[23:38] <Braners> Not as risky as windows though at least
[23:38] <esotericnonsense> Braners: you can google for previous kernel exploits if you want
[23:38] <esotericnonsense> ot
[23:38] <Braners> I will
[23:38] <esotericnonsense> it's just the same as any software
[23:38] <Braners> thanks
[23:38] <tomreyn> wendico: right, as has been said before, the only option there is is to pass through real hardware into the VM.
[23:39] <esotericnonsense> <3
[23:40] <tomreyn> nightwalkerkg: :-/ well, it was worth a try. i guess then it's cherry picking parameters from this forum thread you found earlier
[23:41] <or_> Would anyone be able to help me with mouseemu?
[23:41] <tomreyn> nightwalkerkg: and maybe buy some new hardware at some point, if that's an option... your spectre mitigation is probably not that good, if there is any.
[23:44] <tomreyn> Braners: here's a possible approach for PCI device passthrough https://libvirt.org/guide/html/Application_Development_Guide-Device_Config-PCI_Pass.html
[23:44] <Braners> I'll check it out. Thanks@
[23:44] <Braners> !*
[23:44] <tomreyn> Braners: here's another, maybe better approach: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/How_to_assign_devices_with_VT-d_in_KVM
[23:45] <tomreyn> note that passthrough means that this device wont be available on the host
[23:45] <nightwalkerkg> tomreyn: yeah, that is the plan. But currently switching jobs so can't afford it yet.
[23:46] <tomreyn> Braners: so you can only have it in the VM  *or* on the main server
[23:46] <nightwalkerkg> I'll give it a go and see if it works, at least it boots like this. Maybe the ticket will give more insight.
[23:46] <tomreyn> nightwalkerkg: cool, good luck there.
[23:47] <nightwalkerkg> Thanks for the help anyway. :D
[23:47] <Braners> I don't use a virtual machine though
[23:48] <tomreyn> Braners: you don't? then what do you use virt-manager for?
[23:49] <tomreyn> Braners: oh wait, sorry, i mixed you up
[23:49] <Braners> No problem lol
[23:50] <tomreyn> wendico: here's a possible approach for PCI device passthrough https://libvirt.org/guide/html/Application_Development_Guide-Device_Config-PCI_Pass.html ; here's another, maybe better approach: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/How_to_assign_devices_with_VT-d_in_KVM ; note that passthrough means that this device wont be available on the host, so you can only have it in the VM  *or* on the main server