[00:02] I edited firefox's launcher to start in private, but it does not start in private. Can anyone else test to check the issue? Ubuntu 18.04.1 [00:07] After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/ === Tin^man is now known as Tin_man [00:32] what's the deal with PPAs? if I add one that doesn't have a Release file, I can't update my system at all? what? [00:33] !ppa | noobybooby [00:33] noobybooby: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge [00:34] thanks that has nothing to do with my question [00:34] well except for maybe the last part. haha. [00:34] still, seems kind of silly... these are 3rd party things that may be unreliable, so let's let them easily break updating all software [00:35] noobybooby: Jst that a PPA is what someone else did .. and ubuntu has no control over them . [00:35] but surely they have control over how apt works? [00:35] noobybooby: Nope . How ever the author sets up .. is how it is . [00:37] noobybooby, why do some homework before adding the ppa - ie. ensure it supports your release of ubuntu (it takes only seconds, and saves more than that in grief if it doesn't support your release in my opinion) [00:37] I don't think you understand what I'm asking about Bashing-om, [00:37] right okay [00:37] thanks guys [00:38] is there some easy way to list installed ppas? [00:38] noobybooby: ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' [00:38] guiverc: FWIW, this one said it supported the version I am using [00:39] noobybooby: As the source list "should" be in that 3rd party directory . [00:40] no kidding! [00:41] Bashing-om: thanks, and to remove any given item that command returned? [00:41] ppa-remove or something, right? [00:41] maybe it's time to install pacapt. I wonder if it supports PPAs [00:43] noobybooby: Depends on the end goal .. consider ' ppa-purge ' or ' sudo rm -rf /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ '. [00:46] noobybooby, if you want it the GUI way, just use synaptic ... it lists your ppas, you can activate/deactivate/remove them etc :) [00:47] padarc: oh nice. yeah I can't be arsed to do this via cli [00:48] I guess GNOME Software is shipped by default now? I had to install synaptic [00:50] sadly, yes. [00:51] now that I've uninstalled packages from most of the PPAs I've added, how can I remove the PPAs themselves in synaptic? [00:51] or do I have to do that manually? [00:51] !ppa-purge [00:51] To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:/ » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html [00:53] where repository name and subdirectory is all the PPA's url? [00:53] or something like webupd8/icons [00:53] noobybooby, its under settings > package something ... then in the window that pop ups just go to other settings ... something like that (my synaptic is not in english) [00:54] padarc: which language? [00:54] padarc, other programs, not settings ^^ [00:54] noobybooby, mine is in german [00:54] tell me the German please [00:54] noobybooby, einstellungen>packetquellen [00:55] noobybooby, in the window that pop ups then > andere Programme [00:55] thanks :) [00:55] er, dankeshurn [00:56] not sure if I spelled that correctly [00:56] "software & updates" is the gui to manage it [00:57] I am trying to remove a package in a PPA, and it wants to remove xubuntu-desktop to proceed. package is: numix-gtk-theme [00:57] ppa is: LP-PPA-numix/now [00:57] also it wants to remove xubuntu-core, lol. === lynn_ is now known as gryphon [01:00] ppa-purge ppa:LP-PPA-numix/now [01:00] Warning: Could not find package list for PPA: LP-PPA-numix now [01:01] I miss pacman :( [01:01] indeed, this doesn't exist [01:01] this ppa, i mean [01:01] yeah === qwebirc73759 is now known as Nightwalkerkg [01:01] that's, um... odd [01:01] welp time to install Arch I'm done with this [01:01] apt-cache policy | pastebinit [01:02] tomreyn: I managed to fix the AMD-Vi issues, but found a new issue due to the MOBA. Found this thread. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1355044 [01:02] Launchpad bug 1355044 in linux (Ubuntu) "[MSI A88XM-E35] Ubuntu 14.04.1 constant reboot without nomodeset" [Low,Triaged] [01:02] It's for 14.04 but seems they found a specific fix for MSI mobas. [01:02] The best thing about Arch is that they didn't use systemd like everyone else. [01:02] um [01:02] yeah they did [01:02] where have you been? lol [01:03] tomreyn: https://ptpb.pw/-PBu [01:03] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/commit/?h=linux-3.16.y&id=0c78a44964db3d483b0c09a8236e0fe123aa9cfc [01:03] This commit is the specific one. [01:03] No they didn't. [01:04] I remember somebody saying this before... [01:04] PPAs: easy to install, have fun removing them! [01:05] easier to just install a different distro I think [01:05] Nightwalkerkg: 'MOBA' as in 'mainbaord'? or something else entirely? [01:06] Motherboard. [01:06] msi makes motherboards, so [01:06] that would make sense to me [01:07] MOBO is correct. \ [01:07] My bad. [01:07] thats fine, i just wasnt sure you mean thtis or some bios feature i didnt remember [01:09] Now, how would I check if bapm is enabled. [01:11] Help! I've got a broken 16.04 LTS system. I don't know what happened. We did sudo apt upgrade and after reboot and log in = No dash menu. No top of screen menus. No windows. No terminal (Ctrl+Alt+T does nothing). No wifi. How do I get this working again? [01:12] All I get is folders and files present on the desktop screen. [01:17] Nightwalkerkg: i'm afraid i would not know. you could ask in #radeon [01:17] Seems the issue is with the motherboard. [01:17] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1746357 [01:17] Launchpad bug 1746357 in linux (Ubuntu) "Boot loop MSI A88XM-E35 AMD APU A8-5600K (Aruba HD7560D)" [Low,Triaged] [01:17] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104963 [01:17] Freedesktop bug 104963 in DRM/Radeon "MSI MoBo A88XM-E35 GPU Trinity A8-5600K (Aruba HD7560D) Boot loop without radeon.dpm=0" [Normal,New] [01:18] we knew that already didnt we [01:18] those ACPI errors are a clear indication of it. [01:18] Yeah, i guess it will work like this until I get some new hardware. :D [01:18] I can get a terminal with right click - open terminal. How do I get unity working again? [01:18] Nightwalkerkg: i have no better suggestions. [01:19] BlackDalek: you can switch to a text login propmpt by pressing ctrl-alt-f2 [01:21] BlackDalek: there, you can inspect the situation. i can help you review the state of your system a little if you're willing to post a couple command outputs online and to post the http addresses here [01:22] tomreyn, I'd love to, but this machine has no network connection as a side effect of it being broken [01:22] so you tested this already? how? [01:23] tomreyn, so first I need to at least get a network connection working. Tested by trying to ping or run any apt-get command. No network connection [01:23] BlackDalek: what type of network interfaces do you have there? [01:24] ethernet / wired, or wireless? [01:24] do you have the "nmcli" command available? [01:24] only wifi. Ethernet/wired is not an option - no access to plug a cable in [01:25] it says "disconnected" [01:25] so you seem to have nmcli? [01:26] tomreyn, yes [01:27] how do I get the wifi interface back up? [01:27] so "nmcli c" lists your wireless connection? [01:28] and "nmcli d" lists your wireless network interface? [01:29] hold on... it seems to have come back up by itself. [01:29] now it lists my wifi network in green [01:30] and I can ping again [01:30] tomreyn, ok. The wifi connection seems to be back again somehow. [01:31] BlackDalek: ok nice [01:31] now how do I post output from the terminal to a pastebin? [01:32] alias p='nc termbin.com 9999' [01:32] sudo apt update 2>&1 | p [01:32] then tell me the http address returned [01:33] if you have asecond computer, you can ssh to the comnputer we are diagnosing. then you can remote control it and also copy and paste the urls (instead of typing them) [01:34] BlackDalek: ^ [01:35] tomreyn, wait... gone to type stuff on the broken computer [01:35] thus ... ssh [01:36] tomreyn, ok.. I'll try ssh to it from this computer [01:36] this will only work if the broken computer runs an ssh server, though [01:37] tomreyn, it does. It had openssh installed previously. OK, I have ssh login access from here now. [01:37] tomreyn, now what? [01:37] BlackDalek: my wishlist is unchanged, do i need to repeat? [01:38] the apt update command you gave me returned errors about failure to resolve [01:39] /join #plasma [01:39] oops sry [01:39] BlackDalek: it would have posted those to the pastebin [01:40] tomreyn, let me try again [01:41] "alias p" should currently return "alias p='nc termbin.com 9999'". can you confirm this? [01:41] tomreyn, all it is saying is "nc: getaddrinfo for host "termbin.com" port 9999: Temporary failure in name resolution" [01:41] ok [01:42] so we have a dns issue [01:42] but ping to 1.1.1.1 still works? [01:42] tomreyn, it does return the alias. Yes, I can ping 1.1.1.1 [01:43] does "ping ix.de" also work? [01:43] tomreyn, no. "Temporary failure in name resolution" [01:44] tomreyn, it can't seem to resolve names. [01:44] correct: please do: alias p='nc 5.39.93.71 9999' [01:45] then: cat /etc/resolv.conf | p [01:46] tomreyn, it worked. results at http://termbin.com/dmll [01:47] systemd-resolve --status | p [01:48] tomreyn, unrecognized option --status [01:49] here, too, obviously that message was wrong [01:49] systemctl status systemd-resolved.service | p [01:50] tomreyn, http://termbin.com/64ks [01:51] BlackDalek: can you ping 192.168.1.1 [01:52] tomreyn, pinging the router works, yes. [01:52] BlackDalek: are you manually typing the commands, or do you copy and paste? === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [01:53] tomreyn, copy and paste, but that time i just typed ping command. [01:54] BlackDalek: sudo systemctl restart systemd-resolved.service [01:54] BlackDalek: ping -c3 ix.de [01:54] does it work? [01:55] tomreyn, no [01:55] tomreyn, ping: ix.de: Temporary failure in name resolution [01:55] Hello, I have an ubuntu VM and another distro host and I would like to download the kernel debug symbols for the VM so I can debug it. How can I do this? [01:56] BlackDalek: host ix.de 192.168.1.1 [01:57] BlackDalek: does 'ix.de has address ...' ? [01:57] or is the command 'host' not available? [01:57] tomreyn, do you want that piped to the termbin? [01:57] BlackDalek: works, too [01:57] host ix.de 192.168.1.1 | p [01:58] WHen I pop a cd in, where is it in the filesystem? Used to be /dev/sr0. It's an audio cd [01:59] radens: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages [01:59] tomreyn, http://termbin.com/cw50 [01:59] tomreyn: I don't have apt on arch linux :( [02:00] craig: eject cd, run "dmesg -w"; insert cd, press ctrl-c [02:00] radens: you do this on ubuntu, that'S the only thing we support here also. [02:00] I was hunting in /var/log/messages, and forgot there's no such thing any more... [02:01] hm I don't have enough disk on the guest. It's massive [02:01] BlackDalek: sudo systemctl stop systemd-resolved.service [02:02] BlackDalek: echo -e "nameserver 192.168.1.1\nnameserver 9.9.9.9" >> /etc/resolv.conf [02:02] tomreyn, the broken computer just put itself into some kind of suspend mode. I had to go and press its power button to get it to come alive again [02:02] BlackDalek: ok :-/ [02:03] its strange that it would do this while you are working on it via ssh [02:03] well, it may be normal [02:04] tomreyn, yes... the terminal just locked up and I went to the other room to check it and it was suspended [02:04] we can stop X, i assume this will prevent it from shutting down [02:04] tomreyn, -bash: /etc/resolv.conf: Permission denied [02:04] tomreyn, nothing new happening. This was sitting there: `[119834.491148] isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=sr0, iso_blknum=16, block=16` but I'm not sure from when. I tried running soundjuicer to see if that was what was maybe kicking an error, but nothing new. [02:05] BlackDalek: you made a typo [02:05] Are audio CDs iso9660? [02:05] tomreyn, I copy and pasted [02:06] BlackDalek: oh, sorry, my bad [02:06] BlackDalek: echo -e "nameserver 192.168.1.1\nnameserver 9.9.9.9" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolv.conf [02:07] BlackDalek: do you know what your display manager is? lightdm, gdm, ssdm, ...? [02:07] tomreyn, it accepted that. It output two lines [02:07] ok [02:07] see above [02:08] tomreyn, lightdm [02:08] BlackDalek: sudo systemctl stop lightdm [02:08] I assume lightdm is the default for 16.04 [02:08] After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/ [02:08] "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens." [02:08] BlackDalek: it is [02:10] BlackDalek: how are you coming? [02:10] tomreyn, the broken computer's gui is now off. [02:10] BlackDalek: good. do we still have internet access? ping -c3 abc.de [02:11] tomreyn, that worked [02:11] sudo apt update 2>&1 | p [02:12] tomreyn, it never said anything about temporary name resolution fail that time [02:12] BlackDalek: at which time? [02:12] tomreyn, for the ping command [02:13] i'm not sure what you're saying, or how it is now relevant. maybe i'm misunderstanding. did you run the apt command, yet? [02:14] tomreyn, I mean before, if I tried anything that needed a name resolved, like ix.de then it couldn't reslove it, but numerical addresses worked. [02:15] tomreyn, anyway here... http://termbin.com/550i === toaderas is now known as toaderas__ [02:15] okay, ip addresses don't require the resolver to work, that's expected. [02:15] After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/ [02:15] "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens." [02:16] BlackDalek: let's do the same again with apt-get: sudo apt-get update 2>&1 | p [02:18] BlackDalek: then: sudo apt-get -f install 2>&1 | p [02:18] tomreyn, it looks like the output got stuck half way... http://termbin.com/embs [02:18] this can be okay. [02:18] tomreyn, I would have expected something to follow after "reading package lists..." [02:19] no i think its fine when we pipe it into another command [02:20] tomreyn, ok. And here is result of the last apt-get command - http://termbin.com/ym0vj [02:21] BlackDalek: Initially you said "Help! I've got a broken 16.04 LTS system." But your apt sources point to bionic, which is Ubuntu 18.04. what did really happen? [02:23] tomreyn, I don't know. We tried to do-release-upgrade, but that wouldn't start. I can't remember the error, but it appeared to not be able to connect to the download server. Then I told it to sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade, and that ran for about 1 hour then we rebooted and it was broken. [02:23] tomreyn, the owner of the computer told me they had not run any updates on it for months [02:24] BlackDalek: i see. it would have been a good idea to mention the failed release upgrade initally. [02:25] tomreyn, ok.. sorry. I wasn't sure if it had even started. [02:26] BlackDalek: you also just mentioned that there is an owner of the computer who is not you. are you a freid, helping them out, a system admin working for them, another user on the same computer? [02:26] freid -> friend [02:27] tomreyn, the computer is owned by my wife. She gets me to help her fix it, so I am her admin. [02:28] BlackDalek: ok. you have three options now: (1) try to see whether we are still mostly on 16.04 and whether a downgrade is possible / needed. (2) try the upgrade to 18.04, which is not yet supported, again. (3) backup any data as needed and install 18.04. [02:28] tomreyn, how does option 1 work? [02:29] BlackDalek: we'd change all apt sources to point to xenial again, not bionic. [02:29] tomreyn, let's do that then. [02:29] then we'd use some script to check whether you have packages installed which are not from xenial [02:30] then we'd decide whether it's worth the effort trying to fix it by downgrading packages, or whether you should install fresh [02:30] BlackDalek: my favourite is actually the last option, backup (if needed) and install 18.04. can you discuss why it's not yours? [02:32] i forgot option (4) backup (if needed) and install 16.04 fresh. but this is not so attractive, i'd say. [02:32] tomreyn, actually installing 18.04 is probably better as there were issues with her sound card not working properly under 16.04. [02:32] tomreyn, and what did you mean by 18.04 is not supported? isn't that the current stable release? [02:33] BlackDalek: 18.04 is supported. upgrading 16.04 to 18.04 is not yet. [02:33] tomreyn, oh.... [02:33] you must have used some development option to try to start the upgrade earlier [02:34] such as do-release-upgrade -d [02:35] tomreyn, no I just did do-release-upgrade (without additional options). [02:35] BlackDalek: Expect the path to open next week : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-August/004556.html . [02:37] BlackDalek: what's the output of: grep -i ^prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades [02:38] tomreyn, prompt=normal [02:39] BlackDalek: i see. you're right then, i hadn't expected that to happen. [02:40] tomreyn, what happened? [02:41] BlackDalek: the system was configured to upgrade to the next available release, not to the next long term support (LTS) release. if you try to upgrade like this, today, it will actually carry out an upgrade from xenial to bionic. [02:42] which makes sense since ubuntu 18.04 is the next ubuntu version after 16.04 which is not end of life [02:43] but then your computer encountered dns issues, and this apparently made the upgrade fail. [02:43] tomreyn, yes... in software updates it was set for "notify me of new ubuntu version = Any new version" [02:43] as a result you cancelled the upgrade, or it did itself, and you ended up with updated apt sources in /etc/apt/sources.list* [02:44] tomreyn, that makes sense. [02:44] BlackDalek: if it was set all the time like this, then your wife will have seen a lot of upgrade pormpts during the past two years [02:44] or maybe you changed the setting these days to see whether this woudld enable an upgrade to 18.04, and it did. [02:45] tomreyn, yes. She told me that it had been prompting her for upgrades for a long time but she ignored it. [02:45] i see. you should probably set it to "for long term releases only" for her next time then [02:45] can anyone tell me how to get xterm-256 working securecrt with ubuntu 18? [02:46] it only seems to ever support xterm with 8 bit color [02:46] BlackDalek: this makes esne if the goal is primarily a stable desktop experience and not so many upgrades. [02:46] tomreyn, yes. A stable desktop is primary goal for now. [02:47] tomreyn, do I need to somehow fix the source.list entries...? [02:47] BlackDalek: we can try, yes [02:48] BlackDalek: sudo sed -i 's/bionic/xenial/g' /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list [02:48] BlackDalek: tell me if there's any output [02:49] tomreyn, what is sed? anyway, it output nothing [02:50] BlackDalek: explaining sed is a bit like explaining the universe. roughly spoken, it's a text editor. [02:50] BlackDalek: sudo apt-get update 2>&1 | p [02:52] tomreyn, ok... that listed a bunch of xenial sources http://termbin.com/c1v2 [02:53] BlackDalek: do you know any command line interface text editor, such as vim, emacs, nano, jed, pico? [02:54] tomreyn, I usually use nano [02:55] BlackDalek: actually, don't bother just yet, we can use sed again: sudo sed -i 's/^deb-src/#deb-src/' /etc/apt/sources.list [02:55] BlackDalek: then, again: sudo apt-get update 2>&1 | p [02:57] tomreyn, ok. Done sed and apt-get commands. Result here - http://termbin.com/a80p [02:58] BlackDalek: ok. now: sudo apt-get --assume-no dist-upgrade -V 2>&1 | p [02:59] tomreyn, what do those apt-get options do? [03:00] BlackDalek: -V lists the versions a dist-upgrade would bring us from and to, --assume-no answers 'no' to any prompts. [03:00] tomreyn, I see [03:00] BlackDalek: dist-upgrade will prompt whether you want to do this upgrade, and it will assume you answered 'no' [03:01] tomreyn, there is a lot of output Look here... http://termbin.com/shhw [03:01] that's usefulö since i only want to see what it would upgrade [03:02] BlackDalek: this system has been going without upgrades for a good while. but on first sight, it's still a xenial system. i need to look some more, give me up to 5 minutes [03:06] BlackDalek: okay for all i can tell, we can continue to downgrade this to xenial. [03:07] BlackDalek: or you can do a fresh 18.04.1 installation, still [03:07] continuing on the downgrade path should take another 20 to 30 minutes unless new issues arise. [03:10] tomreyn, I have all day. [03:10] the 18.04.1 installation would probably take about as long, plus preparatory time (making the installaer usb), plus re-installing packages [03:11] BlackDalek: i don't ;-) but you get to make this choice. [03:11] tomreyn, if the downgrade to xenial is easier and will get a stable system again, I'd do that [03:12] tomreyn, how do I start this 30 minute downgrade? [03:12] i think installing 18.04.1 is most likely easier, after all you can just do it yourself. although i don't know about /home, we'd need to see whether it needs to be backed up. [03:13] BlackDalek: this downgrade is a process, which involves more chatting with me. that's why it takes so long ;) [03:13] BlackDalek: i think you're still leaning towards the downgrade, so lets do it. [03:13] tomreyn, ok. [03:14] BlackDalek: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -V [03:14] and this time you answer yes [03:15] tomreyn, ok.. it's doing something [03:15] hellooo. I did something not - very - wise. I wanted to install newest krusader software on my ubuntu xenial, google directed me to a page telling me to add ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports and then install krusader, and I then just confirmed... and now I see it did things like "Removing unity-tweak-tool (0.0.7ubuntu2) ", "Removing webbrowser-app" and now I don't have these packages... not that I need them, but ... why did it remove them? [03:15] BlackDalek: what this does is actually not a downgrade, but installing the many pending security (?) updates which should have been installed during the past year or so [03:15] all for xenial [03:15] tomreyn, ok.. it looks like that is what it is doing now. [03:15] BlackDalek: the downgrade we'll need to sort out afterwards. does it say how much longer it will take? [03:16] tomreyn, there is no progress indication [03:16] BlackDalek: okay, is it still downloading or configuring? [03:17] BlackDalek: alternatively, do you know how fast your download is, and does this computer have an ssd? [03:17] tomreyn, many scrolling lines... ok.. it finished now. [03:17] okay, question solved [03:18] cd /tmp [03:18] tomreyn, the disc is not ssd [03:18] cd /tmp; wget -q https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tomreyn/scripts/master/foreign_packages [03:18] chmod +x foreign_packages [03:18] sudo apt install apt-show-versions [03:19] ./foreign_packages 2>&1 | p [03:19] tomreyn, is that script download for me? [03:20] BlackDalek: i did n o t just write this script for you, if that's the question [03:20] tomreyn, I mean did you intend me to download it... [03:20] BlackDalek: it's a script to tell us which package versions you have installed which should not normally be there [03:21] BlackDalek: the commands i wrote will download it for you [03:22] BlackDalek: if you feel unsafe about runnign this script you do not know or do not know you can trust (that would be understandable), you can review it befor you run it [03:23] tomreyn, I downloaded and ran your script [03:23] okay, what's the url? [03:23] tomreyn, ok.. it didn't run. Wants me to run it as root [03:24] tomreyn, shall I sudo it? [03:24] BlackDalek: okay, did you run all the other commands as listed above? [03:24] tomreyn, yes [03:24] BlackDalek: sudo ./foreign_packages 2>&1 | p [03:25] Someone used Budgie? I have a problem with the shortcuts [03:26] tomreyn, weird... it never returned a termbin url that time. just went back to the command prompt [03:27] BlackDalek: does this create any output? sudo ./foreign_packages [03:29] tomreyn, yes.. many many pages... here - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6D6YgkZ2qt/ [03:29] BlackDalek: if so, please post to https://paste.ubuntu.com [03:29] ok [03:31] BlackDalek: turns out the upgrade to 18.04 did happen to a relevant degree [03:31] BlackDalek: i suggest you install 18.04.1 from scratch. [03:32] BlackDalek: do you have an additional storage where we can backup to? [03:32] tomreyn, there is a external hard disk somewhere. Give me a minute to find it. [03:35] BlackDalek: please also run: sudo lsblk -o +LABEL,MODEL | p; blkid | p; df -h | p; cat /etc/fstab | p [03:38] hi [03:38] how to get the package python-rsvg on 18.04 ? [03:39] mattfly1: it's not available from ubuntu, maybe from a ppa [03:40] okay [03:40] tomreyn, I found the drive and plugged it into the broken machine. [03:41] BlackDalek: very well, how is it connected? please also see the above commands [03:41] tomreyn, it connects via a USB port. [03:42] After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/ [03:43] tomreyn, http://termbin.com/ft9s http://termbin.com/eh3h http://termbin.com/7k0f http://termbin.com/0pvp [03:43] mattfly1: i assume you found this by now - but maybe not https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10393675/rsvg-with-python-3-2-on-ubuntu [03:46] BlackDalek: there's a lot of data on the disk, and not enough on the external disk. do you have backups of this computer already somewhere? such as in the cloud? [03:46] *not enough *space* on the external disk [03:48] tomreyn, the external disk can be formatted. I think it is a 120Gb disk. There should be less than 120gb of user data on the broken system.. I am not sure. How do I check how much user data is needed to be backed up? [03:49] tomreyn, there is no cloud backup [03:49] BlackDalek: it's bad to not have backups if the data on this system has any value. [03:50] BlackDalek: please do yourself and your wife a favor and fix this in the future [03:51] BlackDalek: according to http://termbin.com/7k0f there is a single partition and file system on the 'broken' computer. it has a total capacity of 909 GB, of which 554 GB are in use. ubuntu and installed applications will not be using more than 30, maximum 40 GB. the rest must then be user data. [03:51] so we're dealing with a minimum of 500 GB of user data here [03:52] tomreyn, hold on.. I might have a larger drive somewhere... [03:55] Someone used Budgie? I have a problem with the desktop shortcuts [03:58] nanoak: see also #ubuntu-budgie [03:58] I've tried but there isn't too much people there now [04:01] tomreyn, got a 1TB drive connected now [04:02] BlackDalek: is it empty? can data on it be overwritten? [04:03] tomreyn, I think it is not empty, but it can be overwritten [04:03] tomreyn, http://termbin.com/pnvo http://termbin.com/74lv http://termbin.com/ic42 http://termbin.com/lmcn [04:03] BlackDalek: do you want to make sure about this? we may also be able to keep some data there is needed. [04:04] the 1TB external drive has no critical data and can be wiped. [04:04] tomreyn, the 1TB external drive has no critical data and can be wiped. [04:05] After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/ [04:05] "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens." [04:06] BlackDalek: as you wish. sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb obs=1M count=2 [04:08] tomreyn, what is /dev/zero? [04:09] an infinite source of zeroes [04:10] tomreyn, ok.. so this is formatting the drive with zeros? [04:10] BlackDalek: just the first two bytes of it, destroying its partition table, and a bit more than that [04:11] tomreyn, ok... that must be why it took no time at all [04:11] tomreyn, partition table now destroyed. [04:11] sudo parted /dev/sdb mklabel gpt [04:12] tomreyn, it says "Information: You may need to update /etc/fstab." [04:15] sudo parted /dev/sdb mkpart backup 1 100% [04:15] BlackDalek: sudo parted /dev/sde print | p [04:16] BlackDalek: both of the above please ^ [04:16] BlackDalek: actually the second one is wrong, make this: sudo parted /dev/sdb print | p [04:16] (no harm done if you did the other one first) [04:16] tomreyn, ok [04:17] tomreyn, http://termbin.com/6jd6 [04:18] After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/ [04:19] BlackDalek: sudo partprobe; sync; sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1 [04:20] tomreyn, it's warning me that /dev/sdb1 contains a vfat file system [04:20] tomreyn, shall I allow it to continue? [04:21] BlackDalek: the toshiba disk is the external disk, right? [04:21] 1TB [04:22] BlackDalek: it's got to be correct, continue [04:23] it is doing something [04:24] tomreyn, it claims to be done [04:24] BlackDalek: sudo parted /dev/sdb print | p [04:25] tomreyn, it looks like this now - http://termbin.com/of29 [04:26] BlackDalek: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt [04:27] BlackDalek: do you have different, faster and slower, usb ports on this computer? [04:28] tomreyn, it has several USB ports but only a few are working. I believe only the USB 2.0 ports [04:29] okay, then the second part of the backup will take a while [04:29]