| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 02:59 |
|---|---|---|
| tomreyn | buongiorno | 03:06 |
| lotuspsychje | come stai sir tomreyn | 03:07 |
| tomreyn | awesomish | 03:07 |
| lotuspsychje | !certification | 03:14 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 06:14 |
| lotuspsychje | morning lordievader | 06:17 |
| lordievader | Hey lotuspsychje , how are you doing? | 06:17 |
| lotuspsychje | all fine here lordievader tnx and you? | 06:17 |
| lotuspsychje | raining here now | 06:17 |
| ducasse | good morning | 06:20 |
| lordievader | lotuspsychje: Doing good here. It was raining a little bit here, but I think it has stopped already. | 06:22 |
| lordievader | Hey ducasse | 06:22 |
| ducasse | morning lordievader - all well? | 06:23 |
| lordievader | Doing good here, how are you? | 06:23 |
| ducasse | all good, thanks - glad the heat seems to be over and gone | 06:24 |
| lordievader | Same here, this is a much better temperature. | 06:28 |
| ducasse | yup, this i can deal with, over 30 i can't. | 06:33 |
| tomreyn | hi there. it was suggested in #ubuntu-devel that i should ask / point out here that it'd be great to have a note on changed log file locations on bionic as per bug 1786701 | 11:50 |
| ubot5 | bug 1786701 in Release Notes for Ubuntu "Changed log locations for graphical services" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786701 | 11:50 |
| lotuspsychje | tomreyn: this is a wishlist? | 11:52 |
| tomreyn | oh crap i'm still sleepy, meant to post this to #ubuntu-desktop :) | 11:53 |
| lotuspsychje | ah :p | 11:53 |
| tomreyn | i consider it a bug really. | 11:53 |
| lotuspsychje | kk | 11:53 |
| lotuspsychje | want me to affect tomreyn ? as this concerns everybody? | 11:54 |
| tomreyn | i dont want you to affect me, if that's the question :) | 11:54 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 11:54 |
| lotuspsychje | i mean affect the bug :p | 11:54 |
| blackflow | afaik that only happens if something something kms driver, so xorg is running unprivileged. in my case, nvidia proprietary, xorg is still run as root, so the logs go /var | 11:55 |
| tomreyn | if you also consider it a bug please do add 'also affects me' | 11:55 |
| blackflow | I don't tho. This has been true (for xorg logs) for quite some time, not specific for bionic | 11:56 |
| tomreyn | blackflow: and while nvidia is still widely used, from a technical / Ubuntu POV it uses a legacy approach and is pretty much the only thing which does now. | 11:56 |
| tomreyn | blackflow: right, it's lbeen like this in earlier release. but an lts changelog should also consider lts to lts upgraders and opint out news for them. | 11:57 |
| blackflow | legacy, you mean /var ? | 11:57 |
| tomreyn | (it already does in several places) | 11:57 |
| blackflow | but I think this was the case even on 16.04 | 11:58 |
| blackflow | run nouveau and logs go to ~/.local | 11:58 |
| tomreyn | no, not on 16.04 | 11:58 |
| blackflow | run proprietary, xorg is root, logs to /var | 11:58 |
| tomreyn | right | 11:58 |
| blackflow | well, I could be wrong about xenial then | 12:00 |
| tomreyn | hmm, and maybe i am, i do have ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.1.log (but not *.0.*) on this 16.04.5 | 12:04 |
| tomreyn | running amdgpu | 12:05 |
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| lotuspsychje | leftyfb: found redhat similar bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1582839 | 17:54 |
| ubot5 | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1582839 in hostapd "netlink: 'hostapd': attribute type 213 has an invalid length" [Unspecified,Closed: errata] | 17:54 |
| leftyfb | that's just a warning though. | 17:56 |
| lotuspsychje | leftyfb: wich kernel are you running atm? | 17:57 |
| leftyfb | 4.15.0-30-generic | 17:59 |
| leftyfb | it's the HWE kernel | 17:59 |
| lotuspsychje | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1615774 | 17:59 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1615774 in linux (Ubuntu) "iwlwifi queue stuck, Microcode SW error detected, "ieee80211 phy0: Hardware restart was requested" [Medium,Expired] | 17:59 |
| leftyfb | I've seen all these bugs | 18:00 |
| lotuspsychje | leftyfb: #8 has solved it? | 18:01 |
| leftyfb | well, since that link is not valid, no | 18:02 |
| lotuspsychje | leftyfb: have you tryed a tail on syslog, disable & enable wifi again, lets have a look what it all spits out? | 18:03 |
| leftyfb | I'll try it in a bit. I'm going to swap out the chipset from an Intel to an Atheros | 18:03 |
| daftykins | very disappointing if intel continue to be a terrible choice even now | 18:12 |
| leftyfb | oh, those 7260's are garbage | 18:16 |
| daftykins | bet they work fine with Windows (: | 18:16 |
| daftykins | 2:2 stream dual band -ac is plenty | 18:17 |
| * leftyfb sigh | 18:22 | |
| leftyfb | https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/dKw2j93zkX/ | 18:22 |
| leftyfb | I hate wireless so much my teeth hurt | 18:22 |
| leftyfb | that's all there is for wireless lines in syslog | 18:23 |
| daftykins | blows my mind that over 10 years later and wifi is still a challenge to desktop Linux | 18:25 |
| leftyfb | it's got very little to do with linux. Wireless is garbage on Windows as well | 18:25 |
| daftykins | firmware load failed, hmm | 18:26 |
| lotuspsychje | we hear users fixxing alot of realtek & atheros issues on git leftyfb with latest firmwares | 18:26 |
| daftykins | no it's really not actually :) | 18:26 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: yeah you are right about this, this fighting with this realtek bug on xenial for a customer | 18:26 |
| daftykins | ah yeah | 18:26 |
| leftyfb | lotuspsychje: That error I posted above is with the linux-firmware backported from bionic | 18:26 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: the realtek worked on default for xenial, then few updates later borked | 18:27 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: thats something that should not be happening anymore | 18:28 |
| daftykins | nothing worse than regressions | 18:28 |
| lotuspsychje | tj- also said it, devs should concetrate on a stable base | 18:28 |
| lotuspsychje | not the latest bling | 18:29 |
| lotuspsychje | leftyfb: past has showed us realtek & atheros mostly bug on different kernel, or firmware version | 18:37 |
| leftyfb | yeah, I'm going in a different direction. Don't have time to mess with junk chipsets | 18:37 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 18:37 |
| lotuspsychje | evening pragmaticenigma | 18:53 |
| pragmaticenigma | is it out yet? XD | 18:53 |
| lotuspsychje | nop :p | 18:53 |
| lotuspsychje | we can play a trivia here pragmaticenigma tomreyn owning the channel again :p | 18:55 |
| pragmaticenigma | ?? | 18:56 |
| lotuspsychje | j/k | 18:56 |
| tomreyn | lotuspsychje: i'm only working with Hamilton currently, there's others who need cookies, too | 18:56 |
| pragmaticenigma | lotuspsychje: I asked about the LTS upgrade ... because this showed up in my updates today: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PMw5DxKD8q/ | 18:56 |
| lotuspsychje | lets c pragmaticenigma | 18:56 |
| tomreyn | New release '18.04.1 LTS' available. | 18:57 |
| tomreyn | omg omg omg | 18:57 |
| lotuspsychje | aha | 18:57 |
| pragmaticenigma | !dance | 18:57 |
| lotuspsychje | did you get the window pragmaticenigma | 18:57 |
| tomreyn | Prompt=normal | 18:58 |
| tomreyn | ^ hehe i tricked you | 18:58 |
| pragmaticenigma | no, I'm already on 18.04.1 ... haha | 18:58 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 18:58 |
| lotuspsychje | you wont laugh when 2000 users come nagging here lol | 18:58 |
| tomreyn | they wont come to -discuss | 18:58 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 18:59 |
| lotuspsychje | ah thats how you gonna play it | 18:59 |
| tomreyn | i'll be on holidays as soon as LTS upgrade is enabled ;) | 18:59 |
| pragmaticenigma | unless someone tells them of our secret club house (gives lotuspsychje *the look*) | 18:59 |
| lotuspsychje | haha | 18:59 |
| lotuspsychje | even the bots stay out the hardcore nest pragmaticenigma | 19:00 |
| pragmaticenigma | Oh, ubottu doesn't dance apparently... we should fix that | 19:00 |
| pragmaticenigma | there's bots in here? | 19:01 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 19:01 |
| lotuspsychje | hmm havent seen them this evening | 19:01 |
| pauljw | hi everyone | 19:17 |
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| Bashing-om | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue540 is on the streets :) | 20:53 |
| daftykins | \o/ | 20:57 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: Oh What a relief it is ! | 20:59 |
| daftykins | that's good work right there :) | 21:00 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: Halp ! .. It is a real chore to get this done . Need people with writing skills to make up article summaries real real bad . | 21:06 |
| daftykins | ah i'd love to lend a hand but my paid work has been quite active of late, once i get home i'm worn out! | 21:24 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: We do get that a lot .. just not enough time on a 24 hour day :P | 21:39 |
| daftykins | too true | 21:41 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: I get real frazed out getting UWN together as I too have a life to deal with that is not on this keyboard . | 21:45 |
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