[00:03] <tomreyn> and none of shutdown/reboot/halt/acpi shutdown works for lack of systemd, so it'll be a good idea to mount -remount,ro / and sync, and: for char in s u b; do echo $char > /proc/sys/sysrq-trigger; sleep2; done
[00:05] <oryois> if i removed the history , is there any way to recover it?
[00:07] <tomreyn> oryois: what kind of history?
[00:08] <jher> is it possible to remove problematic choices from the ubuntu installer?
[00:08] <oryois> .bash_history
[00:09] <jher> i.e. a splash screen, the language, the keyboard layout
[00:09] <tomreyn> oryois: depends on how your storage is setup. maybe. if you edit it in place and it was never copied around, you may get lucky.
[00:09] <jher> also timezones should be deleted from the installer, except for fews
[00:10] <oryois> tomreyn, i did rm .bash_history
[00:10] <oryois> so i can found it somewhere?
[00:10] <oerheks> !info extundelete
[00:10] <tomreyn> oryois: rm does nothing to remove the data off the disk
[00:11] <tomreyn> wipe or shred might have helped
[00:11] <oryois> tomreyn, file .local is removed too
[00:11] <oryois> so how can i recover them
[00:11] <oryois> ?
[00:12] <tomreyn> oryois: ubottu told oyu
[00:13] <oerheks> testdisk could find files too, so rm does not wipe, nor put it in trashcan
[00:13] <oryois> !info not found
[00:13] <oryois> ubottu, !info command not found
[00:15] <tomreyn> !info ext4magic
[00:15] <tomreyn> !info ext3grep
[00:17] <oerheks> oh, you get help in ##linux too
[00:23] <Terexen> Hey, installing Ubuntu MATE on a Lenovo Idea Pad 330. Had the installer crash, seemingly from a problem the install media, and now it's just booting to a blinking, unresponsive prompt. Any idea how to get back to installing?
[00:26] <tomreyn> Terexen: which OS did you prepare the installer on, and which software did you use to do so?
[00:27] <Terexen> Downloaded and burned the iso on windows 10 with the built in tools.
[00:28] <tomreyn> Terexen: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-how-to-verify-ubuntu discusses how to verify your downloaded image is unmodified (not a broken / interrupted download), but it requires ubuntu bash / wsl on windows
[00:31] <Terexen> I downloaded a new iso on a different pc and verified it and burned a new disc. I'm more concerned with the laptop not booting from it. Even the one that crashed booted the first time. Now I'm not getting anything.
[00:31] <tomreyn> Terexen: so you've been using a dvd-rom or other optical media? maybe try using usb flash storage instead, it often works better. you can use the etcher.io software to write it - it verifies data was written correctly.
[00:32] <tomreyn> can you disable secure boot in the Idea Pad 330 bios? does it have a bios?
[00:33] <Terexen> I can get to the bios so I can try that.
[00:33] <tomreyn> Terexen: while you're at it, check which version it is
[00:33] <Terexen> Okay. brb
[00:35] <tomreyn> Terexen: and if you can, get the exact model name, there are a lot of different ideapad 330 ("Showing 96 result(s) for ideapad 330" on lenovo's product support page)
[00:37] <tomreyn> https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/de/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/ideapad-u-series-laptops/ideapad-u330-touch-notebook/solutions/HT505229
[00:41] <Terexen> Okay, Full number appears to be 330-15IKB and the label on the bottom says model name is 81DE.
[00:42] <Terexen> I couldn't find the secure boot option, which I suspect is because I'm in legacy mode. I'm sure it was in there before. There is a "Intel Trust Verification" or something to that effect option in there where secure boot used to be. Should I try that?
[00:43] <tomreyn> https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/uu/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/300-series/330-15ikb-type-81de
[00:44] <tomreyn> latest bios is version 8TCN45WW from 18 Jul 2018 https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/uu/en/products/LAPTOPS-AND-NETBOOKS/300-SERIES/330-15IKB-TYPE-81DE/downloads/DS503004
[00:44] <Terexen> I have 8TCN44WW.
[00:44] <tomreyn> i sueggst you install it first, then try again
[00:46] <Terexen> How? The computer boots to an unresponsive prompt.
[00:49] <tomreyn> Terexen: oh i assumed you might still have windows installed on it. without some form of windows OS this vendor does not make it easy for you
[00:50] <Terexen> It had windows. But it appears to have been wrecked by the aborted install.
[00:50] <tomreyn> Terexen: we can try with what you have. i'm still looking for hardweare specifications, not easy.
[00:52] <Terexen> To be clear, the live cd booted the first time, got to the desktop, started the installation process and then aborted, complaining of problems with the install media.
[00:52] <tomreyn> Terexen: okay then i suggest you download standard ubuntu 18.04.1 desktop, create an installer with it, install, then, once booted into ubuntu, you install the mate desktop and optionally purge the buntu default desktop
[00:52] <tomreyn> or do what you did previously, just use an usb key instead of optical media
[00:53] <Terexen> I'll give those a try.
[00:53] <tomreyn> Terexen: also i wonldn't use legacy bios unless you can't get it to install otherwise
[00:54] <Terexen> It wasn't working the other way but I can try again.
[00:55] <tomreyn> "intel trusted execution" (abbreviated TXT, maybe that's what you read in bios) should remain on the default.
[01:02] <Terexen> Setting it back UEFI has it blinking "checking media" a few times and then complaining of missing default boot device.
[01:02] <tomreyn> while booting which version of what how?
[01:03] <tomreyn> the ubuntumate installer seems to only support legacy bios / csm booting
[01:05] <Terexen> Ah. Well, I'll try it with vanilla ubuntu on a usb once that's finished downloading.
[01:05] <tomreyn> be sure to use ubuntu 18.04.1, not 18.04.0, too
[01:08] <Kon-> True. Some people including myself had issues with GRUB when it installed via the Ubuntu installer. Both GRUB and the installer had a lot of updates between then and 18.04.1
[01:08] <Kon-> Like Terexen, I also had a UEFI board running in "legacy" MBR mode
[01:15] <jher> is it possible to remove problematic choices from the ubuntu installer?
[01:15] <jher> i.e. a splash screen, the language, the keyboard layout
[01:15] <jher> also timezones should be deleted from the installer, except for fews
[01:16] <tomreyn> jher: why are those problematic?
[01:17] <jher> because they are confusing people and they lose the will to finish the installation
[01:19] <tomreyn> jher: there is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[01:19] <tomreyn> (i dont know whether this was tested for 18.04)
[01:23] <jayjo> for some reason my chrome is losing network connectivity but my actual network seems to be fine. other devices on my network are fine, as well. What should I look into here?
[01:26] <tomreyn> jayjo: does it also happen with chromium-browser?
[01:30] <leon> hello
[01:31] <Guest87268> anyone like ubuntu18.04?
[01:32] <tomreyn> !ot | Guest87268
[01:36] <Kon-> Guest87268, Kubuntu 18.04 is the best Linux distro release I've ever used, going back 10 years
[01:36] <Kon-> The Ubuntu did a great job with the underlying system of 18.04, and the KDE Plasma 5.12 release used in Kubuntu 18.04 is absolutely rock solid
[01:37] <Guest87268> Thanks, Kon! Cannot wait to try it then!
[01:38] <jher> are "xx.archive.ubuntu.com" redirecting to some local mirrors?
[01:39] <oerheks> !mirrors
[01:39] <oerheks> jher, yes, see the list
[01:43] <jher> i wonder why the process is so bizarre
[01:45] <jher> i windows, you just put ntsetup.sif or autounattend.xml to the media, and it is taken automatically
[01:46] <oerheks> linux can handle preseed files
[01:46] <oerheks> preseed
[01:46] <oerheks> !preseed
[01:47] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt
[01:50] <tomreyn> also the 4th paragraph of the article i previously pointed jher to
[01:50] <tomreyn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
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[02:13] <madLyfe> what happens when you take two mirrored drives from one controller and put them on a different manufacturers controller that supports raid?
[02:14] <madLyfe> does the second controller recognize that and pair them?
[02:14] <itsrandeep> hi
[02:20] <filifunk2> Hi can I get ubuntu networking support here...or is there a better place to go?  I'm completely lost connecting to the internet on my main desktop
[02:34] <Terexen> tomreyn: Installed from a usb. Worked like a charm. Thanks for your help.
[02:36] <tomreyn> Terexen: :) i dont know why they still sell computers with optical media nowadays...
[02:37] <tomreyn> filifunk2: this is a good place. start by telling us which ubuntu version you're using, and which model your computer and / or wireless hardware is ( if you know)
[02:38] <tomreyn> madLyfe: mirrored how? 'supports raid' can mean a thousand things.
[02:38] <tomreyn> madLyfe: are you referrfin to md(adm) software RAID-1?
[02:38] <tomreyn> *referring
[02:38] <kamputa_> halo
[02:38] <madLyfe> nah on board raid 1 to different manufacturers raid 1
[02:38] <tomreyn> hi kamputa_
[02:39] <filifunk2> tomreyn thank you
[02:39] <kamputa_> am'a pirate
[02:39] <tomreyn> !ot | kamputa_
[02:39] <madLyfe> both are on board but one is Intel and the other is Marvell
[02:39] <filifunk2> I am using ubuntu 16.04, I built this computer, and I just bought a new netgear router
[02:39] <filifunk2> its a AC1750
[02:40] <tomreyn> madLyfe: hardware / fakeraids are proprietary for the very most part. usually not compatible. also this is not really on topic here.
[02:40] <tomreyn> maybe try ##hardware
[02:40] <madLyfe> tyvm
[02:40] <tomreyn> welcome :)
[02:41] <kamputa_> when i click with my right clicler - all windows hide, and I see desktop :c I dont want to see desktop when I click right clicker
[02:41] <filifunk2> it used to work on my old router, but then I bought a new one.  It says I am connected to the ethernet, but I am going nowhere on internet
[02:41] <kamputa_> what i have todooo
[02:41] <tomreyn> filifunk2: i see. can you open a temrinal and see what this gives? ping -c3 1.1.1.1
[02:43] <tomreyn> filifunk2: no need to copy the entire output, i'm just wondergin whetehr ti reports some error
[02:43] <filifunk2> doesn't look like an error
[02:43] <kamputa_> help T_T
[02:43] <filifunk2> oh sorry
[02:43] <filifunk2> i was doing it wrong
[02:43] <filifunk2> will try again
[02:43] <Roche> please help me..i want script for credit card checker
[02:43] <tomreyn> filifunk2: does it say "3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss" (with those exact numbers)??
[02:44] <tomreyn> !ot | Roche
[02:44] <tomreyn> !patience | kamputa_
[02:44] <filifunk2> "network is unreachable"
[02:44] <tomreyn> kamputa_: which ubuntu version are you using, and which desktop (the default ubuntu one)?
[02:45] <tomreyn> filifunk2: okay. do you happen to have a way to connect this computer to the router by wire?
[02:45] <kamputa_> mine MRB hide all
[02:46] <filifunk2> tomreyn: so other than the ethernet?  I have an ethernet hooked up to the computer to the router right now
[02:46] <tomreyn> filifunk2: oh it's ethernet, sorry i somehow assumed it was a wireless connection thats failing
[02:46] <kamputa_> when i butt a button - it hides all windows and i cant use it normal
[02:47] <filifunk2> tomreyn: yeah that's another story I think for another day.  lol I'm trying to get the ethernet connected
[02:48] <tomreyn> filifunk2: ok. when you run "ip link" in your terminal, does it show the network interface?
[02:48] <tomreyn> filifunk2: or tell me which ones it lists
[02:49] <filifunk2> there are 2
[02:49] <filifunk2> 1 says: loopback, up, lower_up followed by a bunch of things I don't understand
[02:49] <filifunk2> and the other is enp2s0 No carrier, boradcast, multicast, Up
[02:49] <tomreyn> filifunk2: we can ignore the 'lo' (loopback) one
[02:50] <filifunk2> tomreyn ok
[02:50] <tomreyn> filifunk2: okay this enp2s0 is the one most likely.
[02:50] <filifunk2> ok, do you want the rest of what it says for that?
[02:50] <tomreyn> filifunk2: which network hardware do you have? lspci -nn | grep -i network
[02:50] <tomreyn> filifunk2: that was good enoigh for now
[02:51] <robk> i'm trying to setup the openvpn client for ubuntu via the /etc/default/openvpn config.. and I totally forgot how to set it up.
[02:51] <filifunk2> tomreyn: that doesn't give me anything
[02:51] <filifunk2> no errors, just nothing
[02:52] <tomreyn> filifunk2: maybe this? lspci -nn | grep -i ethernet
[02:52] <filifunk2> tomreyn: yep that works
[02:53] <filifunk2> this is what i get
[02:53] <tomreyn> i really only need the stuff in the square brackets to the end
[02:53] <filifunk2> oh ok
[02:53] <filifunk2> 10ec:8168
[02:53] <tomreyn> ...and any 'rev ..' it says behind it
[02:54] <tomreyn> sorry ;-)
[02:54] <filifunk2> yes, (rev 06)
[02:54] <filifunk2> lol no apologies needed, thank you for helping!
[02:56] <tomreyn> welcome. that's a Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
[02:56] <filifunk2> thats the one!
[02:57] <tomreyn> the driver is loaded, and there is a link, but no carrier.
[02:57] <tomreyn> filifunk2: did you maybe reconfigure the network connection on this system after you changed the router?
[02:58] <tomreyn> filifunk2: do you know what a static ip address is, and would you use such?
[02:58] <filifunk2> ahh this is where I confess maybe lol.  I did some googling and ended up following some guy who said i should turn off ipv6.  Does that count?
[02:59] <tomreyn> filifunk2: possibly.
[02:59] <filifunk2> i know what ip addresses are...or rather look like, I don't know what static ip address is
[02:59] <tomreyn> filifunk2: but this was as an attempt to recover from not having internet access from this computer, right? i.e. it was already not working before this.
[03:00] <tomreyn> 'this' -> disabling ipv6
[03:00] <filifunk2> yes, I only ended up on that ipv6 thing because I was trying to get on the internet but could not...so was just doing whatever to see if it worked
[03:00] <tomreyn> filifunk2: the computer you are currently typing from, is it also connected to the new netgear router?
[03:01] <filifunk2> yes, wirelessly connected laptop
[03:01] <filifunk2> to the same new netgear router that I can't connect to on my main computer
[03:03] <tomreyn> filifunk2: ok. back to your main computer, what does this return? ip a s enp2s0 | grep  'inet '
[03:03] <filifunk2> i get nothing
[03:04] <tomreyn> filifunk2: can you click on the networking icon on the top right and select "edit connections"
[03:04] <tomreyn> should be on the bottom of the menu
[03:05] <filifunk2> tomreyn: sorry, I forgot my ethernet wasnt connected.  that previous command you sent me gave me something
[03:06] <tomreyn> ok tell me
[03:07] <filifunk2> 192.168.0.17/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global enp2s0
[03:07] <filifunk2> inet6 fe80::1bc:b94a:2bfc:2206/64 scope link
[03:07] <filifunk2> and that's it
[03:08] <tomreyn> filifunk2: how about "ip r"
[03:08] <robk> I just added my vpn file to /etc/openvpn/USWest.conf, set the value in /etc/default/openvpn to "USWest" and nothing is happening, normally I see a restart script of some kind that says.. taking vpn down, running vpn "name-here", and I'd see like a tun device show up in ifconfig
[03:08] <robk> anyone know why it's not showing anything in ubuntu 18.04?
[03:09] <robk> has the vpn client changed for linux?
[03:09] <filifunk2> default via 192.168.0.1 dev enp2s0 proto static metric 100
[03:09] <Mathuin> Years ago I had a pen and tablet that worked with Ubuntu and I miss it.  I am interested in finding an inexpensive replacement.  Is there a list of supported hardware like this out there somewhere?  Does anyone have any personal recommendations in this area?
[03:09] <filifunk2> 169.254.0.0/16 dev enp2s0 scope link metric1000
[03:10] <filifunk2> 192.168.0.0./24 dev enp2s0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.0.17 metric 100
[03:10] <filifunk2> and thats it
[03:10] <tomreyn> filifunk2: ping -c 192.168.0.1
[03:10] <tomreyn> filifunk2: ping -c3 192.168.0.1
[03:11] <tomreyn> ^ the latter
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> Mathuin: wich tablet is this
[03:12] <Mathuin> The kind you plug into the computer and draw on with a pen
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> Mathuin: wich Os does it run natively
[03:12] <Mathuin> It does not run its own OS.  It is a USB peripheral.
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> oh nvm
[03:12] <co6alt> is it Wacomm?
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> wacom
[03:12] <co6alt> Wacom*
[03:12] <Mathuin> It wasn't an official Wacom.
[03:12] <filifunk2> PING 192.168.0.1. (192.168.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
[03:13] <Mathuin> Those are too expensive. :-)
[03:13] <filifunk2> then three lines of "destination host unreachable"
[03:13] <tomreyn> filifunk2: ok thats enough thans
[03:13] <co6alt> I have intous3 a4 wacom one
[03:13] <Mathuin> co6alt: does it work well with Ubuntu?
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> Mathuin: start here: https://certification.ubuntu.com/
[03:13] <co6alt> does for me, but it is quite old
[03:14] <tomreyn> filifunk2: can you click on the networking icon on the top right and select "edit connections" - should be on the bottom of the menu
[03:14] <Mathuin> lotuspsychje: went there, saw nothing like what I'm looking for, thus my post here ;-)
[03:14] <co6alt> tbh I did not use it in a long time
[03:14] <Mathuin> If I wanted a laptop, it'd work
[03:14] <Mathuin> co6alt: the wife and I are playing Passpartou and she asked about the old tablet thus my request.
[03:14] <filifunk2> tomreyn: ok, i'm there
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> Mathuin: well thats the official list, alot of other hardware willa lso work
[03:15] <tomreyn> filifunk2: how many records are there under 'Ethernet'?
[03:15] <Mathuin> That looks like a great official list for servers and the like, but not so much for peripherals.
[03:15] <filifunk2> 2
[03:15] <tomreyn> filifunk2: can you tell me their names?
[03:16] <filifunk2> Ethernet connection 1
[03:16] <filifunk2> Auto Ethernet
[03:16] <co6alt> Mathuin: It should work out of the box really, wacom drivers are built in
[03:16] <tomreyn> filifunk2: okay, delete both of them.
[03:16] <Mathuin> co6alt: if I can afford a Wacom one, that'd definitely be the way to go!
[03:16] <filifunk2> tomreyn: ok, done!
[03:16] <tadeadliest> hello
[03:16] <co6alt> Mathuin: used ones are not that expensive
[03:17] <tomreyn> filifunk2: now close this window and disable networking.
[03:17] <co6alt> Mathuin: or small ones
[03:17] <filifunk2> i am disabled
[03:17] <tomreyn> filifunk2: now enable again.
[03:17] <filifunk2> enabled
[03:17] <tomreyn> filifunk2: and now disable wireless if its enabled.
[03:18] <tomreyn> and tell me whether it was
[03:18] <tadeadliest> hey
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> tadeadliest: can we help you?
[03:18] <filifunk2> tomreyn: I'm  not sure what you mean there.  Do you want me to delete the Wi-fi connections?
[03:18] <Mathuin> co6alt: the cheapest new one I saw was eighty bucks, but ebay does have them used for much cheaper.  thanks for the pointer!
[03:18] <filifunk2> i don't know that i can disable wireless specifically
[03:19] <tomreyn> filifunk2: ok, ignore this. can you now 'ping -c3 1.1.1.1'
[03:19] <jher> the preseed method from wiki doesn't work
[03:19] <co6alt> Mathuin: those things last for decades, so if it in good enough shape, it would work well
[03:19] <tomreyn> filifunk2: does it say the time out thing again?
[03:19] <Mathuin> co6alt: what apps do you use?  gimp, or something else?
[03:19] <jher> the installer doesn't seem to load the file
[03:20] <filifunk2> "Network is unreachable"
[03:20] <co6alt> Mathuin: I don't really use tablet in linux, I have windows for that, but there is a lot of modern software for painting
[03:20] <tomreyn> filifunk2: also if you do: ping -c3 192.168.0.1
[03:21] <filifunk2> yes, also unreachable
[03:22] <co6alt> Mathuin: Krita is an good example
[03:22] <tomreyn> filifunk2: please pull, then re-seat carefully the ethernet wire on both ends. try a different connected at the router if it has multiple
[03:22] <filifunk2> ok on it
[03:22] <tomreyn> *connectOR
[03:23] <co6alt> Mathuin: definitely try out Krita
[03:23] <filifunk2> ok done
[03:24] <tomreyn> filifunk2: you'Re fast. can you do the pings again
[03:24] <filifunk2> haha.  Ok
[03:24] <filifunk2> same result...unreachable for both
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> co6alt: good advice +1
[03:25] <tomreyn> filifunk2: tell me what "sudo mii-tool enp2s0" returns
[03:25] <filifunk2> negotiated 1000baseT-HD flow-control, link ok
[03:28] <tomreyn> filifunk2: so my guess is that your router just doesn't pass you an ip address via DHCP
[03:28] <filifunk2> oh ok
[03:28] <tomreyn> filifunk2: this is what usdually happens and how computers in a home network usually get an ip address
[03:28] <filifunk2> do i throw my router out the window
[03:29] <tomreyn> filifunk2: hehe, maybe. therE's another thing we can look at: ip neigh
[03:30] <filifunk2> that doesn't give me anything
[03:30] <tomreyn> filifunk2: how many lines does this return and how many of them end in REACHABLE
[03:30] <tomreyn> oh ok
[03:30] <tomreyn> so it's not just dhcp
[03:31] <filifunk2> ok
[03:31] <tomreyn> filifunk2: i'm a bit unsure what else to try right now. do you have an android mobile phone perhaps?
[03:31] <filifunk2> i do
[03:31] <tomreyn> filifunk2: can it get online on the wireless?
[03:31] <filifunk2> yep!  I'm on it right now
[03:32] <tomreyn> filifunk2: oh thats what you're typing from?
[03:32] <filifunk2> no its not
[03:33] <tomreyn> filifunk2: okay, good. do you have an usb cable to connect the smartphone to the computer?
[03:33] <filifunk2> yes
[03:33] <filifunk2> i feel like mcgyver
[03:34] <filifunk2> ok it is hooked up
[03:34] <tomreyn> filifunk2: if you dont need the smartphone right now, you can connect it to the offline computer.
[03:34] <tomreyn> okay, do you happen to know which android version it runs?
[03:35] <filifunk2> yeah its an old phone.  android version 5.0.2
[03:35] <tomreyn> hmm lets hope it works still
[03:36] <tomreyn> filifunk2: on the phone, can you access the settings menu and go to the tethering options?
[03:36] <filifunk2> yes
[03:36] <filifunk2> everything is off
[03:37] <filifunk2> I have usb tethering with a button, portable wifi hotspot with a button
[03:37] <filifunk2> set up wifi hotspot
[03:37] <tomreyn> filifunk2: usb tethering is what we want
[03:37] <tomreyn> filifunk2: can you connect the phone to wireless also, if it isnt currently
[03:37] <filifunk2> wow it works this is wild
[03:37] <filifunk2> i'm on the internet
[03:38] <tomreyn> filifunk2: ok cool, right the android phone works like a modem now
[03:38] <tomreyn> filifunk2: so, this doesn't really fix the problem, yet, but at least you can now better get diagnosis info out
[03:38] <tomreyn> and search the web for solutions etc.
[03:39] <tomreyn> filifunk2: your phone should still get charged by the computer, so at least you dont need to be worried about its battery
[03:39] <filifunk2> ok, yeah I remember reading someone who did the same thing with his phone...so maybe I'll find that one and see if I can follow in his/her footsteps
[03:40] <filifunk2> from the stuff that we did, what did we learn...its not just dhcp?
[03:41] <tomreyn> filifunk2: no, it's something else, but i'm not really sure what. so what we found out is that your computer actually did have an ip address assigned to it, maybe by the router via DHCP, but when we looked at what your computer sees in the network it is connected to, it did not even see the router
[03:42] <tomreyn> filifunk2: it would be good if you could get us a fresh view on the network settings now, since we deleted those connections earlier.
[03:42] <filifunk2> ethernet is back and it says "wired connection 1"
[03:42] <tomreyn> filifunk2: i'm not going to stay a lot longer unfortunatley, so maybe someonee else can carry on. or we can try again tomorrow.
[03:42] <tomreyn> filifunk2: this may be the usb connection
[03:43] <filifunk2> tomreyn, ok, thanks for the help
[03:43] <tomreyn> filifunk2: or is it back really?
[03:44] <filifunk2> no it is the usb connection
[03:45] <tomreyn> filifunk2: okay, so i suggest we sum up the situation again, you put it on a pastebin, and then either someone else takes over or we try again another day?
[03:45] <tomreyn> !paste
[03:46] <filifunk2> !paste
[03:46] <tomreyn> filifunk2: i assume this means you agree to sum it up
[03:50] <tomreyn> filifunk2: i'll sum up what i know if you'll stay around a while longer
[03:50] <filifunk2> oh...i just copied all the text and saved it is that what you mean by sum it up...or are you going to type a write up?
[03:50] <filifunk2> i don't know what im doing lol
[03:51] <filifunk2> I"m probably going to spend some time trying to figure it out, then come back to the chat and if you're not there I'll try and see if someone would like to go through the pain of helping me out
[04:09] <tomreyn> filifunk2: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7sV3Jxn9JK/
[04:10] <tomreyn> filifunk2: sorry for being unclear there, i wasn't sure myself ;)
[04:11] <filifunk2> tomreyn, ooooh that is clean.  Thanks!
[04:11] <filifunk2> I will be going at this tomorrow.  Maybe see you around!
[04:11] <tomreyn> filifunk2: try to run these commands again right before you try to get help here again (can benow, or later, as you prefer)
[04:12] <tomreyn> filifunk2: i just need to get soem sleep. so good luck and ttyl.
[04:12] <filifunk2> goodnight tomreyn!
[04:12] <tomreyn> thanks :)
[04:25] <Bashing-om> filifunk2: I am not the sharpest tool around but the crix of this matter is " default via 192.168.0.1 dev enp2s0 proto static metric 100 " wherre the system is expecting a static config. So, what is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ?
[04:30] <ski777727>                                                   
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[04:40] <filifunk2> Bashing-om: hi, in the interfaces file i have "auto lo" and "iface lo inet loopback"
[04:41] <Bashing-om> filifunk2: that is valid for dhcp !
[04:42] <filifunk2> Bashing_om:  that sounds good?  I'm sorry I don't know what to dhcp is, was going to google around tomorrow lol
[04:44] <filifunk2> Bashing-om:  I'll check that out tomorrow, unless you have something I can try real quick, otherwise it's sleepy time
[04:46] <Bashing-om> filifunk2: where the router hands out a IP for your box . static says you will set this ..but the file says otherwise. ' cat cat /etc/NetworkManager ' is there " managed=false " ?
[04:47] <madLyfe> got this when i was able to boot to my Ubuntu USB installer drive https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/OSDs9otm/irccloudcapture4513537925327988692.jpg
[04:48] <jher> why doesn't ubuntu use "-pipe" cflag by default?
[04:48] <madLyfe> not sure what it's doing now
[04:49] <filifunk2> Bashing-om: in the networkmanager.conf file yes it says managed=false on one of the lines
[04:50] <madLyfe> spitting out some more errors
[04:51] <Bashing-om> filifunk2: That is correct to for network manager to manage the interfaces.
[04:53] <filifunk2> Bashing-om: so I should change it to true?
[04:56] <Bashing-om> filifunk2: NO, false is what you need presently as the interfaces file is not set up for "static" . We need to find where that static is set .
[04:58] <Bashing-om> filifunk2: Not a ready answer .. and I too am tired, we can pick this up tomorrow eve if ya want .
[04:58] <filifunk2> Bashing-om: ok, yeah I'm half asleep.  I'll try and get back on this tomorrow and maybe see ya...thanks for the insight though!
[04:59] <Bashing-om> filifunk2: :) we can dooooo ett /
[05:29] <keekeenige> hey all need some help
[05:30] <keekeenige> im trying to register my nick so i can use a irc client im using the webbased freenode atm
[05:30] <keekeenige> i keep getting a sasl error ...and just closes link
[05:32] <keekeenige> anyone ?
[05:35] <keekeenige> so many people in here no one talking/
[05:35] <keekeenige> ?
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> !register | keekeenige
[05:36] <keekeenige> i have registered the nick
[05:36] <keekeenige> i keep getting a sasl error
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> keekeenige: this channel is for ubuntu support, if you have connecting issues join #freenode please
[05:37] <keekeenige> ok
[05:37] <keekeenige> thank you
[05:39] <keekeenige> i do have a ubuntu problem also
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> keekeenige: ask away
[05:39] <keekeenige> i installed wine ....i also installed play on linux
[05:40] <keekeenige> im trying to install a app called foxtel go
[05:40] <keekeenige> so i can watch foxtel
[05:40] <keekeenige> but it doesnt ever complete the install
[05:41] <keekeenige> its the only windows based app i really want working
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> keekeenige: seems like this guy watches foxtel with chrome: http://www.justinswan.com/watch-foxtel-now-on-ubuntu-chrome.html
[05:42] <keekeenige> yea i read that too
[05:42] <keekeenige> but he uses the app called foxtel now
[05:42] <keekeenige> there is another one called foxtel go
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> keekeenige: you can try the wine channel, or create a new bug on wine for your specific foxtel software
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> !wine | keekeenige
[05:43] <keekeenige> thank you
[05:44] <keekeenige> ill try the wine channel
[05:44] <keekeenige> see what they say
[05:45] <keekeenige> cant join atm
[05:45] <keekeenige> im not identified
[05:45] <keekeenige> back to the first problem lol
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> keekeenige: i dont find an existing bug for it yet so consider: ubuntu-bug wine and describe your story, that foxtell is crashing on install, add some usefull details to the bug. this way you help yourself & the community
[05:53] <keekeenige> is there anywhere other then freenode channel where i can get help
[05:53] <keekeenige> no one responding
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> keekeenige: keep patient, they will repond, freenode has users all over the world on different timezones
[05:54] <keekeenige> ok thanks ...just trying to get things sorted out ...
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> keekeenige: cant you like install hexchat and use sasl?
[05:54] <keekeenige> so frustrating lol
[05:54] <keekeenige> as far as i know i am using sasl
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> keekeenige: try with hexchat..
[05:55] <keekeenige> thats what im using hexchat
[05:55] <keekeenige> i got on here and registered the nickname ...then it says wait for a email ...but it never comes
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> keekeenige: so what does hexchat spit out as error exactly? dont paste sensitive data here ok
[05:56] <keekeenige> ok
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> keekeenige: ah thats something we cant solve here, you need freenode for that, doesnt get in your spam folder?
[05:56] <Kon-> keekeenige, for Play On Linux help, you might also try #gamingonlinux
[05:57] <keekeenige> Connected. Now logging in... * *** Looking up your hostname... * *** Checking Ident * *** Found your hostname * *** No Ident response * keekeenige already in use. Retrying with keekee_... * *** Notice -- You need to identify via SASL to use this server * Closing Link: *********i.com.au (SASL access only) * Disconnected (Remote host closed socket).  Cycling to next server in Ubuntu Servers.
[05:57] <keekeenige> thats the error i get over and over
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> keekeenige: did you enable SASL methog login in hexchat settings?
[05:57] <keekeenige> im not sure to be honest
[05:58] <keekeenige> where would i do that?
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> keekeenige: hexchat/network list/edit freenode
[05:59] <keekeenige> the only thing i have there is ssl
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> keekeenige: login method= SASL username+password must be enabled
[06:01] <keekeenige> you can put a password in ....not sure if its enabled
[06:02] <keekeenige> really not sure what im doing wrong ...i can long in .with this webbased one
[06:02] <keekeenige> but not a irc client ..its stranged
[06:02] <keekeenige> strange
[06:02] <keekeenige> sorry for mentioning it in here.
[06:04] <keekeenige> ill just have to wait to someone says something in freenode
[06:12] <keekeenige> thanks for the help lotus...:)
[06:12] <keekeenige> at this stage its good just being able to get into the ubuntu channel lol
[06:13] <keekeenige> only place i know to get help
[06:13] <keekeenige> :)
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[06:17] <lotuspsychje> keekeenige: no prob
[06:22] <JoshuaD> When I start up my desktop session after a full logout and restart, two console windows open every time. I don't see anything in sesions & startup for them. Any idea how to figure out what's launching them? Xubuntu 18.04
[06:24] <cfhowlett> JoshuaD, did you erase saved sessions?
[06:25] <JoshuaD> @cfhowlett, I see that button now. i'll give it a shot, thanks.
[06:25] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[06:26] <keekeenige> my god ...im trying everything to register
[06:26] <keekeenige> i just never get a email so i can verify it
[06:27] <keekeenige> so frustrating
[06:27] <madLyfe> have a triple monitor setup and just booted into it ubuntu for the first time. turned on the night light feature and its only doing it for 2 of the 3 monitors
[06:28] <madLyfe> though i have them all set to use it.
[06:28] <galux> Hi, Do you know if there is a list of all CRT, CTL, OSCP urls ? i have a restrictive firewall and i would like to permit access to these specifics urls ?
[06:28] <madLyfe> turning them off and on individually doesnt help.
[06:32] <keekeenige> no one in the freenode channel for an hour .....grrrr
[06:32] <keekeenige> lol
[06:34] <madLyfe> after a reboot its worse. only nightlight on the main monitor
[06:50] <anderx>                     _..._
[06:50] <iwq> a quick question, lets say i am installing a debian package
[06:50] <iwq> after few days im installing newer version of the same debian package
[06:50] <iwq> should i remove the older version of that debian package?
[06:51] <cfhowlett> normally, yes
[06:52] <iwq> cfhowlett: this will not be handled by dpkg itself
[06:52] <cfhowlett> iwq, not by default.  sudo dpkg -r OLDpackagename
[06:57] <Nevolution211>                     _..._
[07:12] <mastro> hi, I'm still on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, I tough the LTS upgrade to 18.04 should have come by now. On the website it said a couple of day after 18.04.1 was out, it's been almost a month
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> mastro: its almost there
[07:15] <cfhowlett> eh, whot?  18.01 is still waiting???
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> mastro: just keep your system up to date to receive the upgrade window ok
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: yes, some bugs arised before lts to lts upgrade
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: xenial users are waiting still
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett mastro https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-August/004556.html
[07:18] <mastro> I see! Thanks lotuspsychje
[07:18] <mastro> lotuspsychje: by the way i'm not xenial user, ubuntu
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> mastro: <mastro> hi, I'm still on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[07:19] <cfhowlett> !xenial | mastro
[07:25] <mastro> i know what xenial is :) I'm not a xenial user
[07:25] <mastro> ah, nevermind
[07:25] <mastro> I confused with xfce
[07:25] <mastro> of course xenial is the code name :P
[07:26] <mastro> i forgot
[07:27] <mastro> has the memory leak bug been fixed?
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> mastro: memory leak is on gnome
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> mastro: and yes, they have improved overall alot of bugs on .1
[07:28] <mastro> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1672297
[07:28] <mastro> it say in progress
[07:28] <mastro> lotuspsychje: I know it is in gnome but the upgrade to 18.04 will bring it to my system
[07:30] <pagios> hello, i am having a problem on my ubuntu 16,05 while copying to USB drivers, the copy is like 500MB/sec then starts dropping and then becomes  4,258,365,440  77%    2.42MB/s    0:08:16
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> mastro: gnome still uses more resources then on 16.04
[07:30] <pagios> too slow how can i fix? USB2.0 here
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> mastro: i suggest you await the upgrade, see how your system goes..
[07:31] <pagios> now it hanged on 78%
[07:34] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, hi there. How much time do you have available before you retire for the night? Did you want to offer assistance with getting the backup we made restored to the other computer?
[07:36] <alterjsive> why is it that when I host my /etc/hosts file, it gets reverted on reboot?
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: tomreyn is afk at the moment, want me to leave a msg for him?
[07:37] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, no thanks.. it's OK.
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: he will be back in couple of hours i think
[07:43] <alterjsive> I just tried editing /etc/hosts again, this time the changes stucked. strange
[07:47] <keekeenige> hey lotus finally got it sorted out ..
[07:47] <keekeenige> can log in with hex client now
[07:47] <keekeenige> that didnt take too long .lol
[07:49] <burzos> pagios: Did you fix your problem?
[07:50] <pagios> no
[07:51] <burzos> Is that 4billion number is bytes or something else?
[07:52] <blackflow> pagios: ~2 MB/s seems consistent with cheap-o USB 2.0 sticks
[07:57] <pagios> blackflow, i tried many usbs
[07:57] <pagios> blackflow, it hangs at a78%
[07:57] <blackflow> pagios: is there any blinking light on the usb stick?
[07:58] <pagios> no
[07:58] <pagios> [349029.262331] sd 27:0:0:0: [sdd] No Caching mode page found
[07:58] <pagios> [349029.262338] sd 27:0:0:0: [sdd] Assuming drive cache: write through
[07:58] <pagios> is this normal?
[07:58] <blackflow> for what?
[07:58] <pagios> wheni  plug
[07:59] <pagios> these are sandisk sticks
[07:59] <blackflow> pagios: I guess so.
[07:59] <pagios> blackflow, if i copy over network all is good
[07:59] <blackflow> pagios: are they large enough to receive those 4GB?
[07:59] <BlackDalek> hi. I have a computer with fresh installation of Ubuntu 18.04.1 installed. I also have a back up tar archive of a home folder from a 16.04 installation. I want to restore the home folder and data to the 18.04.1 install. How do I do this?
[07:59] <pagios> so not a problem with swap or internal disks
[07:59] <pagios> yea
[07:59] <pagios> 32GB
[08:00] <pagios> i think something to do with the usb driver being loaded?
[08:00] <blackflow> pagios: nah. so what are you copying and how?
[08:01] <pagios> blackflow, i tried rsync -avHK --progress and cp
[08:01] <pagios> from terminal
[08:01] <blackflow> pagios: rsync --progress is per file tho'
[08:02] <blackflow> pagios: which filesystem is on the sticks?
[08:02] <burzos> Can you partition the big file into a bunch of smaller ones, then copy the smaller files?
[08:02] <blackflow> burzos: maybe something with `cut`
[08:04] <pagios> blackflow, fat
[08:04] <pagios> i formatted too
[08:04] <blackflow> pagios: which fat? 32?
[08:04] <pagios> its one file that i am copying
[08:05] <blackflow> pagios: how big is the file, and which FAT is it?
[08:06] <pagios> the file is 8GB
[08:06] <pagios> it says fat dunno if 32
[08:06] <blackflow> pagios: that's not gonna work then, fat32 max filesize is a bit less than 4GB
[08:06] <blackflow> pagios: if you're using FAT because of windows, try ntfs instead
[08:07] <pagios> i tried ntfs too btw
[08:07] <pagios> trying fat32 now
[08:07] <blackflow> fat32 is not gonna work for 8GB files
[08:08] <pagios> what should it be
[08:08] <blackflow> pagios: for _what_? windows compatibility?  ntfs
[08:11] <pagios> formaytted as ntfs now
[08:11] <pagios>  809.01kB/s
[08:11] <pagios> copying a dmg file here
[08:11] <blackflow> pagios: did you use -f or -q for mkfs.ntfs?
[08:11] <pagios> i used gparted
[08:12] <blackflow> (I meant -Q)
[08:12] <pagios>  3.57MB/s  now
[08:12] <blackflow> well, that's gonna be a while then. iirc by default ntfs wants to clean up the entire partition. perhaps cancel it and use mkfs.ntfs with  -f
[08:14] <BlackDalek> I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 18.04.1 and a tar.gz backup of home directory from 16.04. How do I restore this to the new 18.04.1 installation? The backup archive is 550Gb in size and currently residing on an external USB disk.
[08:17] <blackflow> BlackDalek: you unpack the tarball. But I wouldn't do that blindly. I'd unpack it somewhere else (eg. ~/old-home/) and then copy over file selectively.
[08:17] <^MillerBoss>                     _..._
[08:18] <pagios> blackflow, seems it work now? i did a sync after it finished
[08:18] <sa_> I'm trying to use SSHFS to Mount Remote File Systems Over SSH. While mounting it asks for login password of the remote system, is there any way to give the password automatically?
[08:18] <pagios> to make sure it copied
[08:18] <blackflow> pagios: what exactly?
[08:18] <pagios> sa_, you can use keys
[08:18] <pagios> what exactly what
[08:19] <pagios> sync now is hanging but copy was done
[08:19] <blackflow> pagios: "seems it work now"? What does?
[08:19] <pagios> the copy didnt hang
[08:19] <blackflow> pagios: to ntfs?
[08:19] <sa_> pagios: how to use the keys?
[08:19] <pagios> yes ntfs
[08:20] <blackflow> pagios: ah, ok. yeah. also note that the kernel is lying a bit about how much it transferred, so when, say, the cp command returns, it'll still be copying in the background.
[08:20] <pagios> so sync is needed right
[08:20] <pagios> sync command
[08:20] <blackflow> pagios: it's not needed, it does so automatically.
[08:21] <pagios> so when the copy is done i just unmount?
[08:21] <pagios> you said it might still be coming
[08:21] <pagios> copying
[08:21] <blackflow> pagios: yes, it  will hold the unmoount if it's still copying data. just make sure you don't unplug it physically until it's unmounted.
[08:21] <pagios> ok
[08:21] <pagios> thanks
[08:22] <blackflow> yw
[08:23] <blackflow> sa_: something like this: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-ssh-keys-on-ubuntu-1804
[08:23] <sa_> blackflow: Thank you
[08:26] <BlackDalek> blackflow, ok.. seems pretty straight forward. tomreyn suggested I make a backup archive of /etc too for reference or something.. what do I do with that?
[08:27] <blackflow> BlackDalek: you keep it for reference or something .)
[08:27] <BlackDalek> lol
[08:27] <blackflow> well yeah. /etc is the central place for system configuration
[08:28] <blackflow> user configs usually go to ~/.config  or somewhere else in $HOME
[08:30] <BlackDalek> blackflow, hmmm... so is there likely to be any data in the /etc backup which I would need?
[08:31] <blackflow> BlackDalek: hard to say, but as a general rule of thumb, if you didn't change any configs there yourself, it's most likely just defaults.
[08:32] <blackflow> BlackDalek: but /etc should compress to a rather small tarball you can keep around just in case.
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[09:03] <daviddemars> hello,
[09:40] <sa_> i added the line "sshfs#xy09@remote:/home/xy09    /home/xy09/remote-name        fuse    users,noauto         0       0" to /etc/fstab, and when i try to mount the remote file system using "mount /home/xy09/remote-name" its not connecting to remote, any wrong in this command?
[09:49] <pax_rhos> how to write in 𝓢𝓽𝔂𝓵𝓮?
[09:53] <jirido> Hi. does ubuntu installer iso have memtest86+ on it?
[09:57] <blackflow> jirido: the server iso does
[09:58] <blackflow> jirido: I don't have a desktop iso with me to check that too, but I'm guessing it does as well
[10:01] <blackflow> jirido: oh wait, I do, and yes it does too.
[10:10] <loppy2> Allah is doing
[10:10] <loppy2> sun is not doing Allah is doing
[10:10] <loppy2> moon is not doing Allah is doing
[10:10] <loppy2> stars are not doing Allah is doing
[10:31] <red-0017> Allah is doing
[10:31] <red-0017> sun is not doing Allah is doing
[10:31] <red-0017> moon is not doing Allah is doing
[10:36] <ppf> and what are stars
[10:37] <ppf> asking for a friend
[10:40] <BlackDalek> If I copy my backed up ~/.mozilla/ folder from Ubuntu 16.04 to the ~/.mozilla/ folder on Ubutu 18.04.1, will it restore all my Firefox preferences/bookmarks/passwords etc or will it just break Firefox since these backed up files are from a different Firefox build?
[10:43] <tehpwnz> hello all, I have just setup Joomla on my PC and I am new to it, is there any chat room for Joomla where I can get help?
[10:43] <blackflow> BlackDalek: it's forward compatible (for now), so you can use your old .mozilla dir just fine.
[10:46] <pavlushka> tehpwnz: TRY #joomla
[10:47] <tehpwnz> pavlushka: it's quiet in there, is there any other group?
[10:49] <pavlushka> tehpwnz:  it's because they have no problem with it may be, let them know your's
[10:50] <illuminated> tehpwnz: also, another thing of note, is that it's between 6 & 7 am for people in the US.  it may simply be a little early for ppl to be there to help you.
[10:51] <tehpwnz> illuminated: ah okay, thank you.
[10:51] <BlackDalek> blackflow, thank you.
[10:58] <tehpwnz> I know this is an Ubuntu chat room, but is anyone here good with Joomla? I need help ASAP and I don't even know what to search for on the joomla doc pages :(
[11:12] <Tecan> i think gimp needs to be updated in 18.04 , the file menu are not visible here
[11:13] <jimby0> Allah is doing
[11:13] <jimby0> sun is not doing Allah is doing
[11:13] <jimby0> moon is not doing Allah is doing
[11:13] <jimby0> stars are not doing Allah is doing
[11:14] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: hey there, just waking up here. how are you coming along?
[11:15] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, hi. I am currently extracting the home archive to a temp folder ~/old-home/ in the new 18.04.1 install
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> Tecan: screenshot?
[11:16] <sergedx> Tecan: cannot confirm this, menus are working fine for me in the latest gimp on ubuntu 18.04.1
[11:16] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, it took about 6 hours to archive the home directory into a 550Gb tarball, so I assume it's going to take a similar time to unpack it
[11:18] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: well, it might, maybe a bit less, writing to internal hdd may be faster., but the bottleneck is probably slow usb
[11:19] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, that is correct.
[11:22] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: here's what i'd do to restore the backup: boot to recovery, enable networking and drop to a root shell, then move what's currently in home out of the way (or just delete it entirely), then restore the /home backup to /home, then look in the /etc backup which user ids were previously in use, then recreate those users (if needed), then make sure the restored files in /home actually belong to these users.
[11:23] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: that's probably not trivial for you if you're not well versed with the shell, sinc enone of it would work from a graphical user interface.
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> !alis | tehpwnz start here
[11:24] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, I prefer not to use the GUI whenever I can avoid it
[11:25] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: oh ok :). the alternative would be to cherry pick from the /home backup (on the GUI) and to selectively restore single directories and make sure they're owned by the right people. but i'd prefer the shell approach.
[11:26] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: so does what i described first, doing it all on the shell, seem like a good approach to you?
[11:26] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, yes, but I'll probably need your help when I get to the "then look in the /etc backup which user ids were previously in use, then recreate those users (if needed), then make sure the restored files in /home actually belong to these users." part
[11:27] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: we can actually do this part first if you like
[11:28] <tomreyn> then all that'd be left would be extracting the files.
[11:28] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, probably not today. The machine i busy unpacking the archive. I don't want to touch it until it's done, and I have to sleep in a while.
[11:28] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: sure, have a good night then
[11:29] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, yes. thanks.
[11:32] <tomreyn> Tecan: which one are you using? the one from "Source: ubuntu-bionic-universe" or the one from "source: Snap Store"?
[11:33] <tomreyn> the former is version 2.8, the latter version 2.10.
[11:36] <keekeenige> lotus how do you explain it on lanuchpad?
[11:37] <keekeenige> ive never used it or know what it is
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> keekeenige: did you make a launchpad account?
[11:37] <keekeenige> no
[11:37] <keekeenige> how do you do that?
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> keekeenige: make one please to be able to report the bug
[11:38] <keekeenige> where do you make a launchpad account ?
[11:38] <keekeenige> sorry new to all this
[11:38] <tomreyn> Tecan: in case you'll return, i just tested both 2.8 and 2.10 on ubuntu 18.04.1, and both had a menu bar here.
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> keekeenige: launchpad==>register
[11:40] <keekeenige> ok
[11:40] <keekeenige> how do i register
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> keekeenige: https://login.launchpad.net/+login make an account
[11:47] <keekeenige> ok
[11:47] <keekeenige> lotus i have registered
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> keekeenige: ok, now from a terminal: ubuntu-bug wine
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> keekeenige: you will be automatic redirected to launchpad for the creation of the bug
[11:48] <keekeenige> do i have to run the program and try install it
[11:48] <keekeenige> so that it shows something
[11:48] <keekeenige> ?
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> keekeenige: when you fill in the bugs description is reccomended to gather the most info yes
[11:49] <keekeenige> it says this report can not be done
[11:50] <keekeenige> as the problem isnt installed
[11:50] <keekeenige> thats what it more or less says
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> keekeenige: ?
[11:51] <keekeenige> this report is about a package that isnt installed
[11:52] <keekeenige> the problem can not be reported
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> keekeenige: you said to me this morning you try to install from wine?
[11:52] <keekeenige> i did
[11:52] <keekeenige> but the install fails
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> keekeenige: wich command did you try install wine with?
[11:53] <keekeenige> i installed wine
[11:53] <keekeenige> with the software centre
[11:53] <leftyfb> keekeenige: that is not an ubuntu problem. That is a problem with a Windows application not being compatible with wine. You should go to #winehq for that
[11:56] <leftyfb> keekeenige: looking at that applications web page, I don't think you're going to have much luck getting it to work in wine. You should just run it on Windows dual boot or in a Virtual Machine
[11:56] <keekeenige> you talking about the foxtel go app lefty?
[11:58] <leftyfb> For running it in wine or a VM, yes. As for any other wine application, that is not supported here either. For that type of support see #winehq or winehq.org
[11:58] <keekeenige> it works on a vm
[11:58] <leftyfb> ok, then you're good to go
[11:58] <keekeenige> but i was hoping to get it to run on wine
[11:58] <keekeenige> as its the only reason i have a vm ..lol
[11:59] <keekeenige> to run that one program
[11:59] <leftyfb> you probably won't. Either way, seek support from #winehq or winehq.org
[11:59] <keekeenige> ok ill just leave it to the vm then
[11:59] <keekeenige> ive been waiting like 8 hours in winhq
[11:59] <keekeenige> with no one answering lol
[11:59] <keekeenige> so think ill give up
[12:00] <keekeenige> i do have a ubuntu question now
[12:01] <keekeenige> you know down the left side of ubuntu where you have the icons
[12:01] <keekeenige> how to you add other icons that you use alot
[12:01] <leftyfb> open the app and right-click it's icon
[12:03] <keekeenige> thanks
[12:04] <koosha01> Hi there!
[12:04] <keekeenige> can you have more then one icon bar?
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[12:07] <keekeenige> its ok ...i moved the bar to the bottom
[12:07] <koosha01> I tried installing ubuntu 18.04 network installer version but here is the problem: I used dd to copy mini.iso on my usb flash, when the laptop boots and the usb flash is connected, it just gets stuck and I can't do anything. Windows doesn't load and I can't go to BIOS setting.
[12:12] <tomreyn> koosha01: i dont think you can just dd mini.iso to a usb flash and expect it to boot
[12:12] <koosha01> tomreyn: Why not? I've done that before.
[12:13] <tomreyn> hmm, it worked before? then maybe you can, i'm not actually sure. but i'd just use etcher.io or whatever the documentation recommends
[12:13] <tomreyn> (for your platform)
[12:14] <koosha01> tomreyn: Documentation recommended cp and it didn't work too.
[12:14] <keekeenige> can you ask about program that you are looking for ...on ubuntu
[12:14] <keekeenige> in this channel
[12:14] <sybariten> ok so i may have done something stupid, i did this in virtualbox but i think maybe theres a fix that is the same regardless whether its a native OS or not
[12:14] <keekeenige> lotus thank you for all your help today ..was really needed
[12:15] <sybariten> i made a virtualbox thing with ubuntu 16 as guest OS but i was too cheap on disk space. I think my mistake was trying to install emacs though, which according to apt would take up 100 megs.
[12:15] <tomreyn> koosha01: cp? i doubt that.
[12:16] <sybariten> i then ran out of space, and cant file-name-tab. If i do apt get remove emacs i gain about 26 kb .... are these hundreds of megs held hostage in some package somewhere? Is there something i can clean?
[12:16] <koosha01> tomreyn: Right in the documentation.
[12:16] <sybariten>  So basicly: was short on disk space, installed emacs, ran out competely of space, tried removing emacs, didnt re-gain as much as i thought i would
[12:17] <ioria> koosha01, mini.iso does no uefi (only bios legacy); so i'd try to change the bios mode (and disabling sb) or dd again the usb with sync, this time
[12:17] <tomreyn> koosha01: surely copying files from the mounted iso is part of the process but that's just one in many steps. which documentation are you looking at?
[12:19] <koosha01> tomreyn: https://help.ubuntu.com/18.04/installation-guide/amd64/ch04s03.html
[12:22] <tomreyn> koosha01: thanks, i actually didn't know this.
[12:26] <resaldis64> hello players
[12:27] <JimBuntu> o/
[12:27] <koosha01> tomreyn: :D
[12:31] <koosha01> I'll be thankfull if any one help me with my problem :D
[12:32] <tomreyn> koosha01: did you try what ioria suggested?
[12:33] <koosha01> tomreyn: What did he/she suggested?
[12:34] <ioria> koosha01, mini.iso does no uefi (only bios legacy); so i'd try to change the bios mode (and disabling sb or fastboot ) or dd again the usb with sync, this time
[12:34] <tomreyn> koosha01: that you should not use mini.iso with uefi booting (need to change to legacy / csm to use it), and that when you cp mini.iso to the raw device, you shoould sync before you unmount + eject
[12:35] <ioria> koosha01, also heard about efi support for 18.04 but not sure
[12:36] <koosha01> I don't use uefi.
[12:36] <koosha01> but didn't sync after dd. Does it really help?
[12:36] <Anticom> Hi all. I think in a recent "apt upgrade" java 9 sneaked into my system. https://gist.github.com/Anticom/217f2f2e167f2c2896996b05536d120c
[12:37] <Anticom> is this caused by default-jre?
[12:37] <Anticom> i'm not sure what java package i've installed when i set up my machine
[12:37] <ioria> koosha01,  might be; you extracted before it flushed
[12:38] <koosha01> ioria: Allright, let me try it.
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[12:39] <Anticom> ty Sigyn
[12:40] <Anticom> thing is i don't need or rather don't *want* jre and jdk 9 on my machine since it messes with some executable jar's i've got on there
[12:40] <Anticom> so what's the most sensible way to get rid of it
[12:44] <tomreyn> ioria / koosha01:so i tried to cp mini.iso to the raw device, then sync, and what i get is "Error: Invalid partition table - recursive partition on /dev/sde."
[12:44] <tomreyn> so i assume the documentation may be outdated
[12:45] <ioria> tomreyn, yeah
[12:46] <tomreyn> same with dd
[12:46] <pizzaburger> Good day everyone! I'm trying to build libmtp (trouble transfering files from mobile), and I'm running into some issues - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GDzX4QbzhT/. Could some one please point me towards a solution? Thanks!
[12:46] <rory> I've got a long-running process running directly in a shell on my laptop. Is it possible to "move" this into screen or tmux, so I can view its output from elsewhere over SSH?
[12:47] <ioria> pizzaburger, there is an earlier error  i guess
[12:49] <pizzaburger> ioria: You're right, I see it now
[12:51] <tomreyn> i think this mini.iso is just broken http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/main/installer-amd64/current/images/SHA256SUMS
[12:52] <Anticom> anyone?
[12:52] <pizzaburger> I'm getting 'rm: cannot remove '.libs/libmtp_la-libmtp.o': Permission denied'. Is this because I don't "own" /Home? How do I work around this? The error was part of a 'make' command.
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[12:56] <rory> I achieved it using reptyr. Very nice tool.
[12:57] <rory> pizzaburger: if you ever did "sudo make" by mistake it would have borked all your permissions
[12:57] <rory> pizzaburger: you can set ownership on your entire home directory, if that's what you want to do, with: chown -R $USER:$USER ~
[12:57] <rory> sudo that
[13:06] <tomreyn> Anticom: which ubuntu release
[13:06] <pizzaburger> now I'm getting 'collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status'
[13:07] <koosha01> ioria: I tried sync, didn't work out.
[13:07] <koosha01> get's stuck at booting.
[13:08] <Anticom> tomreyn: xenial
[13:08] <tomreyn> koosha01: i just wrote both the 18.04.0 and trhe 18.04.1 mini iso to a usb stick using various methods and was never able to boot off it. directly booting the iso file in a vm did work for both iso files, though.
[13:09] <tomreyn> koosha01: so i'm not sure what to make out of this. i was legacy booting in all cases.
[13:09] <tomreyn> koosha01: i suggest you use a full iso
[13:10] <koosha01> But I need this version.
[13:10] <tomreyn> why?
[13:10] <koosha01> keeping it simple.
[13:10] <tomreyn> Anticom: default-jre depends on openjdk-8-jre on xenial
[13:11] <tomreyn> koosha01: so it is a nice to have, not a strict dependency.
[13:11] <koosha01> tomreyn: PLus I don't think it's because of the version. I already installed the 32 bit network installer on the other computer.
[13:11] <Anticom> hm that's strange
[13:11] <Anticom> because java-9-jre hasn't got any external rdependencies
[13:13] <tomreyn> Anticom: you can search /var/log/apt/term.log* for how openjdk-jre-9 got installed.
[13:13] <tomreyn> Anticom: i dont think it happened as part of an upgrade
[13:14] <tomreyn> Anticom: unless due to 3rd party packaged
[13:14] <tomreyn> *S
[13:16] <brunin> hola
[13:20] <RandomSerb> hello. is there a way for me to install ubuntu on a pc, alongside windows 10, without cd or usb?
[13:21] <RandomSerb> like, run installation from windows, and then simply restart to boot into it
[13:23] <solsTiCe> hi. stupid question or stupid feature, I guess. I have a ext4 partition ona usb key. and nautilus does not allow me to delete any file on it. it is mount rw
[13:23] <solsTiCe> oops sorry.
[13:23] <solsTiCe> the file re wned by root
[13:29] <brainwash> RandomSerb: there used to be wubi, but it's not supported anymore
[13:29] <brainwash> RandomSerb: you can find a fork of wubi here https://github.com/hakuna-m/wubiuefi
[13:31] <Anticom> solved it. update-alternatives had some hickups and wouldn't update the symlink in /etc/alternatives
[13:31] <Anticom> i've set it manually and now everything works as expected again
[13:35] <tomreyn> koosha01: i just booted the installer fine off the mini.iso usb. so it's definitely possible (even though there is this warning about the partition tables)
[13:36] <koosha01> tomreyn: Yeah.
[13:36] <tomreyn> koosha01: did you verify yours doenst try to uefi boot?
[13:37] <tomreyn> RandomSerb: possible, but not supported.
[13:37] <koosha01> tomreyn: What?
[13:38] <tomreyn> koosha01: what i wrote.
[13:38] <skinux> I'm having access denied trouble in a project directory
[13:38] <necrophcodr> I've got an Ubuntu 16.04 server and I'm trying to get gnupg2 working
[13:38] <skinux> What is the command to get recursive permission printout?
[13:39] <koosha01> tomreyn: It was unclear.
[13:39] <necrophcodr> But `echo hello | gpg2 -s` produces an error: gpg: signing failed: Permission denied
[13:39] <sipior> RandomSerb: not *quite* the same thing, but you might consider giving the Windows Subsystem for Linux a try: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/about
[13:39] <sipior> RandomSerb: i've heard good things; not tried it myself.
[13:39] <necrophcodr> Is there any way to debug this?
[13:40] <skinux> Do these permissions look right? https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/7af45f7d51b9a99c3241f6613f04860a
[13:42] <tomreyn> koosha01: have you double-checked that the computer that gets stuck booting (where?) from the usb attached flash (?) storage you wrote mini.iso to boots in legacy bios / CSM and not in URFI mode?
[13:42] <tomreyn> *UEFI
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[13:42] <EriC^^> skinux: it asks to login
[13:45] <tomreyn> necrophcodr: check the ownerships and permissions of all files in ~/.gnupg
[13:45] <necrophcodr> tomreyn, i have, they're all rw only by the user owning them
[13:46] <tomreyn> necrophcodr: i guess it's strace then
[13:47] <leonardus> Ubuntu 18.04 / Firefox 61.0.1: When I have a YouTube video playing in fullscreen for a while, the framerate seems to go down. When I exit fullscreen, it returns to normal. Is this a known bug?
[13:50] <tomreyn> leonardus: what's your hardware (graphics chipset, cpu, ram)? anything in dmesg about it?
[13:51] <faLUCE> Hello. On (X)Ubuntu 17.10, after booting I have to  manually add "nameserver 8.8.8.8" to /etc/resolv.conf, otherwise I can't connect to internet. How can I fix that?
[13:51] <tomreyn> !17.10 | faLUCE
[13:51] <tomreyn> !eol | faLUCE
[13:52] <necrophcodr> tomreyn, i've tried stracing it, but i'm not reallt getting anything useful with -f
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[13:53] <tomreyn> necrophcodr: i think there's a gnupg channel here where you could try getting more help with it
[13:54] <tomreyn> necrophcodr: searching for the error message, i also came across https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=836772 which might be related.
[13:57] <tomreyn> faLUCE: in cas ethe above messages weren't clear on this, your ubuntu release is end of life (unsupported and no more security patches) since july 19.
[14:00] <necrophcodr> tomreyn, i looked at the bug, and it's not related. i have searched for errors messages for about 2 hours now though.
[14:00] <necrophcodr> Running `echo hello | gpg2 --debug-all -s` this is the output
[14:00] <necrophcodr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GPDdRywhfk/
[14:00] <necrophcodr> I've posted in the #gnupg channel as well about this of course.
[14:01] <necrophcodr> However I'm not sure where the error is. I tried stracing it, but all it did was show me a bunch of `write()` calls, not much else going on, and I'm not competent enough to debug that kind of stuff.
[14:06] <tomreyn> necrophcodr: this indeed looks like pinentry ran into a permission issue. you could try switching to a different pinentry application or disable it entirely, to see whether this works around the issue
[14:11] <Guelo> Hello Cyptolock
[14:17] <ioria> tomreyn, just burned a 32-bit mini.iso 18.04 and it boots fine; probably the issue is with 64bit
[14:19] <tomreyn> ioria: well i booted frine form a 64-bit
[14:19] <tomreyn> *fine
[14:20] <tomreyn> but maybe it's a matter of usb version or other hardware details whether or not it works.
[14:20] <ioria> tomreyn, sy, misunderstood  'was never able to boot off it.
[14:21] <tomreyn> oh :-/
[14:24] <qwebirc90268> Hi there. I have a problem with 18.04 desktop and getting my *.local domain to resolve. The correct DNS server is advertised via DHCP. But dig <domain>.local doesn't give me an ip. If I state the dns server explicitly, it works. Any idea what could be wrong here?
[14:25] <tomreyn> ioria: so, yes, initially i was unable to boot off the 64-bit iso when written to a usb stick, then usb passed through to a vm, where i tried booting it. i later tried this usb stick on a bare metal computer, though, and reported this: ? <tomreyn> koosha01: i just booted the installer fine off the mini.iso usb. so it's definitely possible (even though there is this warning about the partition tables)
[14:25] <ioria> tomreyn, ah, ok :) imissed that
[14:26] <qwebirc90268> I already removed mdns from the nsswitch.conf, but that didn't help
[14:27] <tomreyn> ioria: sorry if i wasn't clear about it. so it seems to work and koosha01 didn't seem too interested in making it work, so i guess we should not spend more time on it.
[14:27] <ioria> tomreyn, oky
[14:29] <leftyfb> qwebirc90268: pastebin:  cat /etc/resolv.conf # and # nmcli device show |grep -i dns
[14:33] <JonelethIrenicus> if my system tray isn't showing up in plasma what is the likely cause?  I just upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04.
[14:35] <MeiR> hi, i'm wondering what's the most convinent way to check which dirs / filesd have increased the disk usage in last X days
[14:35] <MeiR> files*
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[14:35] <MeiR> convenient*
[14:36] <qwebirc90268> leftyfb https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/67tRsjh7ts/
[14:41] <skinux> I need help with permissions problem https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/7af45f7d51b9a99c3241f6613f04860a
[14:44] <qwebirc90268> skinux see line 122, the file is 400
[14:48] <rbraptor> ciao
[14:53] <horus125> after recent updates I can't open most of my apps, including terminal, so I cant debug it. What should I do?
[14:54] <JimBuntu> qwebirc90268, But the /Debug/ one referenced is on line 90, rw/r/r
[14:55] <qwebirc90268> JimBuntu: the question is, what the '.' dir is
[14:56] <JimBuntu> qwebirc90268, That's a valid concern.
[14:56] <qwebirc90268> horus125: can you ctrl+alt+f1 onto a different tty and login there?
[14:57] <webwerks_> hi
[14:57] <JimBuntu> skinux, `ls a-lF /home/skinux/Projects/FrabbitzServer/obj/Debug/FrabbitzServer.Form1.resources`
[14:57] <JimBuntu> oops. `ls -alF /home/skinux/Projects/FrabbitzServer/obj/Debug/FrabbitzServer.Form1.resources`
[14:59] <MeiR> how can i check which dirs / files were modified in last X days, and their size?
[15:00] <qwebirc90268> MeiR: 'du' gives you file size. Maybe it supports some kind of filter.
[15:01] <MeiR> yeah i'm familiar with du, would love to hear about filters
[15:02] <JimBuntu> MeiR, find / -mtime -X
[15:04] <qwebirc90268> leftyfb: any idea? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/67tRsjh7ts/
[15:05] <leftyfb> qwebirc90268: change mydomain.local to just local
[15:05] <leftyfb> also, the reason I asked for the pastbin was not for you to redact the useful informatoon
[15:06] <leftyfb> qwebirc90268: unless you have to local DNS servers, your DNS via DHCP is wrong. You should ONLY have your local DNS if you wish to resolve local DNS hosts
[15:07] <leftyfb> to/two
[15:07] <JimBuntu> MeiR, a more complete comman...     find / -type f -mtime -1 -exec ls -alF {} \;
[15:08] <qwebirc90268> leftyfb: it's internal ips all the way. there is nothing useful to get out of this. If i put either server into dig via @ip it resolves the ip without any problem. And the 127.0.0.53 is not set by me
[15:08] <leftyfb> qwebirc90268: that is set by your local network manager which gets it's info from dhcp
[15:10] <qwebirc90268> leftyfb: I guess 127.0.0.53 is the resolvd service, to do caching. But this still does not explain why it doesn't resolve the hostname.
[15:11] <MeiR> thanks JimBuntu, will try
[15:11] <qwebirc90268> leftyfb: The actual DHCP field is correct. I double checked that with a diffrent client.
[15:12] <leftyfb> qwebirc90268: try manually changing /etc/resolv.com to use one of your local DNS servers and test
[15:15] <DenSchub19> rampjoulaboyrampjoulaboyrampjoulaboyrampjoulaboyrampDOLPHINoBOYmTELL'EMoyrampjoul
[15:18] <qwebirc90268> leftyfb: this works. But obviously only until I restart
[15:18] <leftyfb> qwebirc90268: it's called troubleshooting
[15:18] <leftyfb> so it tells me you're not actually using those dns server via dhcp somewhere
[15:18] <keekeenige> hey all
[15:18] <keekeenige> i have download a iso file that is windows based
[15:19] <keekeenige> i want to extract the files but ...when mounted the iso folder shows empty
[15:20] <qwebirc90268> leftyfb: yes. The question is, why. It's a stock installation from 18.04.1 cd. I didn't do any config yet. Except for disabling mdns4.
[15:21] <fryst18> rampjoulaboyrampjoulaboyrampjoulaboyrampjoulaboyrampDOLPHINoBOYmTELL'EMoyrampjoul
[15:28] <keekeenige> lefty
[15:28] <keekeenige> you about mate
[15:51] <CrtxReavr> Why do I see a discrepency between what I seen when I run 'apt-get update/upgrade' and this login message?:
[15:51] <CrtxReavr> 15 packages can be updated.
[15:51] <CrtxReavr> 6 updates are security updates.
[15:55] <qwebirc90268> leftyfb: Thanks for looking into this. I have just disabled that stupid systemd-resolved and moved to a working resolver.
[15:58] <tomreyn> CrtxReavr: i think the latter is cached, may take a while to update.
[16:00] <piterke> witam jest ktos tu z polski
[16:01] <tomreyn> MeiR: there is no history, unless you'll create it
[16:01] <CrtxReavr> tomreyn, that doesn't make sense though, given what apt-get is reporting: https://bpaste.net/show/c08d5ad8c19c
[16:02] <tomreyn> CrtxReavr: why not?
[16:03] <CrtxReavr> tomreyn, so the number of security/available patches has gone down?
[16:03] <tomreyn> CrtxReavr: yes, such as if you installed updates in the mean time or it happened automatically since.
[16:06] <amar>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[16:06] <amar>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[16:06] <amar>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[16:06] <amar>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[16:08] <CrtxReavr> tomreyn, thanks. . . I'll try and stop obsessing.
[16:12] <rfleming> Afternoon.  Which OpenJDK should I be installing?  11 or 8?
[16:16] <tomreyn> rfleming: if you need any of the two, and unless you have application specific needs, i'd just go with the default.
[16:17] <jeffree> qt5 apps apparently do not automatically honor the gnome scaling factor so the icons are too small. I have found that QT_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTORS=2 set in the .bashrc works for launching the app from a shell, but how can I make it apply to apps launched from the gnome launcher?
[16:18] <tomreyn> rfleming: i.e. default-jre-headless (for a server) or default-jre (for a desktop)
[16:19] <rfleming> thanks
[16:19] <jeffree> also, if anyone knows why QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR has no effect I'd like to know
[16:19] <jeffree> I'm using ubuntu 18.04
[16:21] <classicturd> so despite editing the .desktop file calibre's default icon still shows up alongside other window buttons on my panel
[16:23] <classicturd> is there any other way i can make this application use my custom icon instead of the default
[16:24] <cristiana> Hi!
[16:34] <madLyfe> ubuntu for multi monitor is pretty bad eh?
[16:36] <SimAloo> I have dual monitor on 16.04 with no issue
[16:37] <tomreyn> it may depend on the graphics driver, but usually it just works fine
[16:40] <madLyfe> i have 3 and im not sure if i have the gfx driver. i remember during the install it asked if i wanted extra software, it mentioned something about gfx. im on 18.0.4.1.
[16:40] <madLyfe> top menu bar doesnt span, night light didnt work on all of my monitors.
[16:49] <jayjo> I'm editing Makefile in atom which is set to have a tab equal 2 spaces. Is there another way to manually insert a tab for files that require an actual tab character?
[16:54] <yar24>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[16:57] <tomreyn> madLyfe: i dont think the top menu bar is meant to span, it is only meant to display on what you choose to be the primary display.
[17:06] <qwerty124rr> hi
[17:07] <qwerty124rr> any1 up?
[17:08] <madLyfe> hmm
[17:08] <madLyfe> how do you make shortcuts of installed apps on the desktop?
[17:09] <JimBuntu> madLyfe, You can make .desktop files
[17:10] <madLyfe> plz tell me i dont have to use the command line to do that..
[17:10] <JimBuntu> madLyfe, No, you can use a graphical text editor if you prefer, afaik
[17:11] <madLyfe> huh?
[17:12] <JimBuntu> A ".desktop" file is simply a specially formatted text file that the DE interprets. You can write one using gedit if you prefer
[17:13] <xubuntu18041> madLyfe; in xubuntu locate required program-launcher in menu -> right mouse-click, select 'Add to desktop'
[17:14] <madLyfe> you mean from the grid?
[17:15] <madLyfe> i only have these options: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/hALCoIZT/image.png
[17:17] <grateful> can't you just drag the icon to the desktop?
[17:18] <madLyfe> i tried that but it just opens a new window
[17:20] <qwerty124rr> tell me the irc cliet u guys use....
[17:20] <qwerty124rr> i m using hexchat right now. btw
[17:20] <SimonNL> madLyfe: copy an existing and change the settings in it
[17:22] <madLyfe> irccloud
[17:22] <madLyfe> SimonNL: im not sure what you mean?
[17:23] <SimonNL> madLyfe: can't you duplicate an existing launcher on desktop and change settings in it.
[17:24] <madLyfe> im new to nix im sorry
[17:26] <JimBuntu> madLyfe, https://pastebin.com/bXMdrEaE
[17:26] <JonelethIrenicus> if my system tray isn't showing up in plasma what is the likely cause?  I just upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04.
[17:28] <Hamilton> I installed ubuntu 16 alongside win 10. I partitioned a separate disk for /, swap and another FAT32 one to be used by both OSs (in /windows)
[17:28] <Hamilton> Everything worked fine. Then I reformatted that partion to NTFS in widnow 10. Then when I try to boot ubuntu, it says it is in emergeny mode
[17:29] <madLyfe> JimBuntu: there isnt an easier way than that?
[17:29] <madLyfe> i have a lot of things i want shortcuts for..
[17:29] <JimBuntu> Creating a single text file seems pretty easy to me.
[17:30] <JimBuntu> Ah madLyfe, it's an issue of volume. I don't know of a simpler way off-hand. I spend most of my time in terminal :-(
[17:31] <madLyfe> thanks for your time JimBuntu
[17:31] <JimBuntu> You are welcome
[17:32] <grateful> madLyfe, you using unity?
[17:32] <derpingit> hi guys. i'm having a problem installing Docker on a 16.04 vps; can someone help me troubleshoot? already installed/reinstalled many times.
[17:32] <tomreyn> Hamilton: there is and was not "ubuntu 16"
[17:32] <grateful> https://askubuntu.com/questions/67925/how-to-create-a-desktop-shortcut-in-unity
[17:33] <Hamilton> tomreyn, Sorry I meant 18.04
[17:34] <madLyfe> grateful: im using whatever is on 18.04.1?
[17:34] <JimBuntu> madLyfe, Hmmm... it seems you can navigate to it in Nautilus, right-clik, make link, then move that "link" where you want it.
[17:34] <tomreyn> Hamilton: disable 'fast startup' in windows
[17:34] <tomreyn> https://superuser.com/questions/1152001/shutdown-windows-10-truly-for-a-dual-booting-system
[17:36] <grateful> madLyfe, look at that link i posted
[17:36] <grateful> a few ways to do it
[17:36] <grateful> as JimBuntu said you can use nautilus to do it
[17:36] <Hamilton> tomreyn, Don't you think my reformatting of a shared disk to NTFS (in Windows) has caused this?
[17:36] <grateful> but
[17:36] <grateful> Enter the following command in a terminal:
[17:36] <grateful> gnome-desktop-item-edit Desktop --create-new
[17:36] <grateful> is the easiest imo.
[17:44] <qwebirc97089> Hi i am having touble with some elementary os i just installed. My problem is with my network manager. The wifi says it is disabled and cannot recognize any wireless networks. Ive tried nmcli radio wifi on but that did nothing. nmcli wifi says wifi is enabled but network manager says it is not. Super new to all this just fyi.
[17:45] <tomreyn> Hamilton: no, that's not an issue per se. if you read up more on 'fast startup' you'll learn that it means that windows doesn't unomunt the ntfs cleanly. so whenever that's the case, then ubuntu linux would have to fix the file system up before it can use it. but ntfs support, while pretty stable, was reverse engineered for lack of documentation, and may thus not be perfect. as a result, what looks like a broken ntfs wont just be automatically
[17:45] <tomreyn> fxed up on linux.
[17:45] <ducasse> !elementary | qwebirc97089
[17:46] <Hamilton> tomreyn, I disabled that "fast boot option" but the problem persists
[17:47] <tomreyn> Hamilton: did you fix the filesystem since?
[17:47] <Hamilton> tomreyn, What do you mean? You mean changing it back to FAT32?
[17:47] <tomreyn> Hamilton: no, run ntfsfix on it, or chkdsk /f on windows
[17:48] <Hamilton> tomreyn, Can I run ntfsfix on ubunto (in this state)?
[17:48] <tomreyn> Hamilton: it will tell you if not so.
[17:50] <Hamilton> tomreyn, I don't remember my *devices*
[17:50] <Hamilton> I mean I don't remember whther that drive was /dev/hda?
[17:51] <tomreyn> Hamilton: running "lsblk +LABEL,MODEL" should tell
[17:51] <leftyfb> I'm trying to get a wireless AP going on a headless computer running ubuntu 16.04.5. I'm following https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-ubuntu-linux-setting-wireless-access-point/ . It doesn't seem to be working/broadcasting any ESSID. The service says it's started. The only error I seem to see is from syslog "netlink: 'hostapd': attribute type 213 has an invalid length." but my research shows this is benign
[17:51] <tomreyn> Hamilton: feel free to post the output and we can look for it together
[17:51] <tomreyn> !pastebinit | Hamilton
[17:51] <madLyfe> i think i may need to switch to KDE or cinnamon or something like that
[17:52] <Hamilton> tomreyn, Thank for helping :)
[17:52] <Hamilton> For now, here is the original error in ubuntu boot:
[17:52] <Hamilton> https://imgur.com/a/AVQkcmx
[17:54] <tomreyn> Hamilton: this shows plenty of acpi errors. that's unrelatedm, but you should install a bios update if one is available. and maybe do this if they'll still be present afterwards: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[17:54] <leftyfb> I take that back, there's another error: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/Qs8XBsQY5d/
[17:55] <Hamilton> tomreyn, I found it (sda8) and did that utility. It reported it has exited successfully
[17:56] <tomreyn> leftyfb: looks like you successfully rebooted your wireless chipsets' firmware by triggering a critical error in it.
[17:56] <Hamilton> tomreyn, But it was working before :(
[17:57] <tomreyn> Hamilton: what was working before?
[17:57] <Hamilton> tomreyn, It was booting to Ubunto and Win10 either way
[17:58] <tomreyn> Hamilton: oh you're saying you can no longer boot Ubuntu now? i didnt notice that.
[17:58] <tomreyn> Hamilton: do you have the ntfs disk listed in /etc/fstab ?
[17:58] <tomreyn> i mean the ntfs, not disk
[17:59] <Hamilton> There is not /fstab in my etc
[18:00] <tomreyn> Hamilton: if you're still in ubuntu emergency and just did the ntfsfix from there then just press ctrl-d to make it continue to boot now
[18:00] <Hamilton> tomreyn, Booting now, But that utility didn't seem it did much work :\
[18:01] <Hamilton> I mean it reported success but it throwed it rather fast
[18:01] <JimBuntu> Hamilton, I think it only has to change a bit
[18:01] <tomreyn> Hamilton: yes it could be very fast
[18:02] <tomreyn> Hamilton: so does it start your graphical desktop now?
[18:03] <Hamilton> tomreyn, No CTRL+D didn't work
[18:03] <Hamilton> I rebooted
[18:03] <madLyfe> is it easy to switch to KDE or cinnamon?
[18:03] <Hamilton> It actually throws error about not being able to access some interrupt vector
[18:03] <Hamilton> And ACPI things
[18:04] <Hamilton> It immediately shows them and clears them, then shows emergency mode and that picture I posted
[18:06] <tomreyn> Hamilton: so you're back in emergency now?
[18:06] <solsTiCe> humm I just installed the signal-desktop snap. but when I launch it nothing happens ???
[18:06] <Hamilton> tomreyn, Yes. Now it is throwing another error which I post in a sec
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> solsTiCe: did you try to contact the maintainer of the snap?
[18:07] <solsTiCe> not yet
[18:07] <Hamilton> tomreyn, https://imgur.com/a/PC9e6na
[18:09] <tomreyn> Hamilton: that looks familiar
[18:09] <tomreyn> do as the prompt says
[18:10] <tomreyn> "journalctl -xb" to inspect your logs, and systemctl default or exit or Ctrl-D to continue booting
[18:13] <Hamilton> tomreyn, Familiar to what? Are you actually one of the devs of Ubuntu?
[18:15] <tomreyn> Hamilton: no, i'm not. i'm just saying your scond screenshot looks very similar to the first one.
[18:15] <Hamilton> ah
[18:16] <Hamilton> tomreyn, At least the first one had some green OKs in it :(
[18:17] <cloe27>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[18:17] <cloe27>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  ­ https://i.redd.it/8w0r915sm1ty.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[18:17] <cloe27>  ­ ­  https://i.imgur.com/FZ5iI6Y.jpg ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[18:17] <cloe27>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  ­ https://i.redd.it/el0p0os7u7fz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[18:17] <cloe27>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ https://i.redd.it/r2n8a788qs211.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[18:17] <tomreyn> Hamilton: i didnt see those. i'm comparing https://i.imgur.com/clxODmO.jpg to https://i.imgur.com/nwY9GIx.jpg
[18:17] <cloe27> http://i.imgur.com/DfZdPTy.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[18:17] <cloe27> http://magaimg.net/img/5xpf.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[18:17] <tomreyn> !ops | cloe27
[18:18] <Hamilton> tomreyn, Yeah, the first one has 3 green OKs
[18:18] <tomreyn> thanks tony
[18:18] <tomreyn> Hamilton: oh right. so how are you coming there?
[18:18] <Hamilton> tomreyn, After CTRL+D it complains about FAILED to access sda6
[18:19] <Hamilton> It says I should run chdisk
[18:19] <Hamilton> but that command does not exists
[18:19] <Hamilton> *chkdsk
[18:19] <tomreyn> it exists on windows
[18:20] <Hamilton> But sda6 Doesn't have anything to do with that FAT32 drive I formatted
[18:20] <tomreyn> Hamilton: so sda6 will be your ntfs partition, and the one you should run ntfsfix (or chkdsk from windows) on
[18:20] <Hamilton> In fast I guess it is Ubuntu's own ext4 or sth
[18:20] <tomreyn> Hamilton: it wouldn't mention 'chkdsk' then
[18:22] <Hamilton> It won't let me run ntfsfix /dev/sda6 on it
[18:22] <Hamilton> FAILED to access
[18:22] <tomreyn> Hamilton: saying what?
[18:22] <Hamilton> Volume is corrupt :(
[18:23] <tomreyn> i suggest you boot into windows, check all file systems there, and reboot to ubuntu
[18:24] <Hamilton> tomreyn, How to check file systems? chkdsk?
[18:25] <tomreyn> yes something like this. my guess is 'chkdsk /F /A'. there is ##windows for windows support here.
[18:25] <Hamilton> Yep, lsblk reports sda6 is actually the root or ext4
[18:25] <leftyfb> Hamilton: login to Windows, run chkdsk /f /y     and reboot TWICE
[18:25] <Hamilton> So why does it suggest using chkds?
[18:26] <Hamilton> leftyfb, But windows is not aware of ext4 partitions. Is it?
[18:27] <leftyfb> Hamilton: is it your NTFS or ext4 partition you're having issues with?
[18:27] <Hamilton> leftyfb, I don't know. I just formatted a FAT32 partition (dev8 to be exact) to NTFS in windows (my biggest mistake)
[18:28] <tomreyn> Hamilton: no idea why ubuntu would suggest running 'chkdsk' on an ext4 file system. there can be some reasons but speculating on them doesn't help here. we dont know anything about your system other than the two screenshots and what you said so far.
[18:28] <Hamilton> Then I tried to boot into Ubuntu and it is complaining about everything now
[18:29] <FurretUber> Hi, I'm having a very strange problem with Grub2. I'm using Xubuntu 18.04 and I've noticed some Grub2 commands in command line have no output, as ls
[18:29] <leftyfb> Hamilton: take that NTFS drive out of /etc/fstab and try to boot ubuntu
[18:31] <tomreyn> FurretUber: that's not strange. grub's 'ls' command is not what you'd see on bash, ash, dash, zsh or other shells. it behaves differently
[18:32] <FurretUber> When using from the command line in one install, it shows the devices as (hd0,msdos1)
[18:32] <Hamilton> leftyfb, I don't have any /fstab directory in my /etc
[18:32] <FurretUber> In the other install ls shows nothing
[18:33] <tomreyn> FurretUber: right, ls should list the disks and partitions on them which grub detected.
[18:34] <FurretUber> Initially I supposed it was not detecting disks, but if I used the commands as set root, linux, initrd and boot it worked. But it never gave output. One command I know that works is lsefi
[18:34] <wasutton3_mobile> so i've got an old installation of ubuntu (17.04). I've got it updated using the old-releases.ubuntu.com domains. Is there a way to upgrade to 17.10 (since directly upgrading to 18.04 is unsupported)?
[18:34] <tomreyn> Hamilton: fstab is a file in thhe /etc directory
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> !eolupgrade | wasutton3_mobile
[18:36] <wasutton3_mobile> lotuspsychje, i've already read that. those instructions are ancient and don't seem to work
[18:37] <Hamilton> tomreyn, I guess the problem is my Ubuntu system is not *aware* that /sda8 is not NTFS. It seems I need to edit some fstab file or comment sth out to make it work
[18:38] <Hamilton> But again, I'm not sure why it complained about /sda6 though
[18:38] <Hamilton> I did a disk repair via GUI in Windows 10 on sda8. It said it had errors and fixed it
[18:38] <tomreyn> Hamilton: can you show some output? i think this will allow you to make progress and would be a lot better than continuing to speculate.
[18:38] <Hamilton> tomreyn, OK I'm on it
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> wasutton3_mobile: we have users that fixxed their system with this method..but we advise you to upgrade your system 'before' its going end of life, or clean install
[18:39] <wasutton3_mobile> lotuspsychje, i normally try to, this one slipped through the cracks.
[18:40] <wasutton3_mobile> lotuspsychje, "An upgrade from 'zesty' to 'bionic' is not supported with this tool. " thats the error i get using that method
[18:40] <tomreyn> Hamilton: "lsblk -o +LABEL,MODEL" and "cat /etc/fstab" are a good start
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> wasutton3_mobile: let me put it this way, with all the recent security flaws, would you still trust your system?
[18:40] <wasutton3_mobile> lotuspsychje, considering its on a vlan without internet access, and its been sitting in a box since last june (2017), I'd say that its fairly trustworthy.
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> wasutton3_mobile: why not consider install 18.04 with a liveusb, then takeover your /home?
[18:41] <Hamilton> tomreyn, https://imgur.com/a/XhPQJFX
[18:42] <Hamilton> Now it doesn't even complain about anything but still is in emergency
[18:42] <wasutton3_mobile> lotuspsychje, i'd like to do that, but I just don't have physical access to it at the moment.
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> wasutton3_mobile: have you tryed to jump 17.04==>17.10?
[18:44] <tomreyn> Hamilton: it doesn't really say why it puts you into emergency mode, at least not on this screen. can you now get the output fo the commands i posted above or can you not get a shell now?
[18:45] <texla> Ubuntu 18.04.1 Software updates..Failed to download repository information..check your internet connection ??
[18:45] <wasutton3_mobile> lotuspsychje, im trying that now, changing zesty->artful in apt/sources.list
[18:45] <Hamilton> tomreyn, Here is what inside that fstab file: https://imgur.com/a/t66gVjv
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> texla: are you behind a router or firewall?
[18:46] <texla> lotuspsychje, Iuse a router do not have a firewall installled
[18:47] <tomreyn> Hamilton: okay, so 'vfat' is wrong, and probably the UUID, too, in the "/windows" line. i suggest you just comment this one out.
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> texla: have you tested with a direct connection yet?
[18:47] <Hamilton> tomreyn, Comment symbol is # here?
[18:47] <tomreyn> Hamilton: yes
[18:47] <texla> lotuspsychje, No my wired is 16.04
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> texla: put cable in your bionic machine as test first?
[18:49] <tomreyn> Hamilton: also the trailing 1 there is wrong and this is what would have broken the boot process earlier.
[18:49] <texla> lotuspsychje, ok will try thanks
[18:49] <Hamilton> tomreyn, WoW it booted into it
[18:49] <Hamilton> tomreyn, Thanks man!
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | tomreyn
[18:50] <tomreyn> Hamilton: welcome. you should still be able to access this ntfs partition form the graphical file browser / manager
[18:51] <Hamilton> tomreyn, But it still was throwing error while booting
[18:51] <Hamilton> What was that trailing 1?
[18:51] <Hamilton> And how can I completely fix this issue?
[18:51] <tomreyn> Hamilton: i think *this* issue is now completely fixed, unless need the windows partiton automounted when you login
[18:52] <Hamilton> tomreyn, Here is meme for you https://imgflip.com/i/2ft0y7
[18:52] <tomreyn> :) thanks
[18:53] <tomreyn> Hamilton: dmesg | pastebinit
[18:53] <tomreyn> this would upload your kernel log, so we could look for more issues.
[18:53] <Hamilton> tomreyn, So what is your job/field/background? I'm embedded systems engineer
[18:54] <tomreyn> Hamilton: i do system administration. but social chat would be better suited elsewhere. let's focus on ubuntu support on this channel-
[18:55] <Hamilton> :) ok
[19:00] <Hamilton> tomreyn, Here is my kernel log: https://0bin.net/paste/2G5cbnwsP3ed09lS#G9B19BFF9rFSMEBw8LvWQGWfX3odRw0SLq7afiak8ka
[19:05] <tomreyn> Hamilton: looking...
[19:12] <allgauer> how can i set static dns server? i edit "/etc/systemd/resolved.conf" and add one but "systemctl enable --now systemd-resolved" don't work and don't apply to "/etc/resolv.conf"
[19:15] <madLyfe> if im in uefi and secure boot, how do i boot to usb drive from nix?
[19:24] <Syco54645> so upgraded my nuc (model dccp847dye) to 18.04 and now i am getting flashing/artifacts with it. this only occurs when plugged into my receiver. if i plug into any other input it works fine. plugging in an rpi to the same cable (and thus into the receiver) also works fine. here is a video of what is happening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqj9EU_D0Eo
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> Syco54645: have you tested another kernel boot yet?
[19:26] <Guest21657>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[19:26] <tomreyn> Hamilton: i'm not sur ethis made it here, so i'll repeat: these ACPI errors are still present. i suggest you do a BIOS upgrade (there seems to be one newer version for this system) on windows. if, after this,  " dmesg | grep 'ACPI Error' " still returns something, I suggest you try http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html        You could also disable the (f)TPM  device in bios, if it's an option there. that's unless windows
[19:26] <tomreyn> needs it (such as for its full disk encryption)
[19:27] <Hamilton> tomreyn, What if I don't do anything? Would it be harmful?
[19:27] <Hamilton> I more like want to use gparted to fix that line I commented out
[19:29] <zargon> hi guys, since upgrading from 17 to 18 the system always says battery 0%. acpi -V gives me: Battery 0: Unknown, 0%
[19:29] <zargon> Battery 0: design capacity 4400 mAh, last full capacity 4400 mAh = 100%
[19:29] <tomreyn> Hamilton: no, not ddoing anything should not be harmful. it wont improve things either. i'm not sure whether garted is the right tool to edit fstab, but maybe it can do it for you, not sure.
[19:29] <Hamilton> tomreyn, How about writing ntfs instead of fat in fstab?
[19:30] <tomreyn> Hamilton: that's a good start. you'l also need to make sure the UUID is correct. and the trailing 2 should be a 0.
[19:30] <tomreyn> * trailing 1
[19:31] <tomreyn> Hamilton: "blkid" lists the correct uuids
[19:31] <Hamilton> :)
[19:31] <Hamilton> How u learned all this
[19:32] <tomreyn> breaking thing, and forcing yourself to learn how to recover them helps a lot.
[19:33] <Hamilton> I tried installing ubunto (12 three years ago and 16) on my main laptop. It has heat problems and I had to uninstall both times
[19:33] <Hamilton> Really bad experience with installing Linux on laptops
[19:33] <Hamilton> As soon as it boot into Ubuntu, fan maxed out like it was hell
[19:34] <Hamilton> And it even had problems on Windows so I decided not to mess with low-level shenanigans
[19:37] <mdemo> Recently I installed needsrestart, pretty cool tool. There's something I noticed; does it actually remove the need to restart for security updates?
[19:37] <mdemo> I don't think I've gotten a prompt at login to reboot since I installed it. Makes me wonder if the automatic security update scripts will use needsrestart if it's available.
[19:38] <mdemo> Or maybe it's just a coincidence.
[19:48] <Syco54645> lotuspsychje: i finally got it to the point that i can view the thing. let me enable ssh and get the dmesg errors. lots of reports in google but no fixes that i found
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> Syco54645: ive recently readed those nucs should have better support now..
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[19:56] <McLaws> Hey im new to this and i forgot my password and cant get into the GRUB menu ive tried shift also escape but still cant get into it
[19:56] <McLaws> ive restarted probably close to 30 times with no luck
[19:57] <jje> try escape key instead of shift McLaws
[19:57] <McLaws> i did
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[20:02] <perth> Hopefully quick q, just install server 18.04 via live-cd, need to install rdiff-backup This /seems/ to indicate it should be in default repos (version matches, says [universe]) https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/rdiff-backup but I can't find it even when searching apt-cache
[20:03] <perth> Please help me understand what I'm missing? (need a new repo for "utils"?)
[20:04] <tomreyn> perth: this is due to bug 1783129
[20:04] <perth> ah, ok
[20:04] <perth> I just started searching others, I think I can google it from there, thank you :)
[20:04] <tomreyn> rdiff-backup is in universe
[20:04] <perth> need to add universe to repo-list, I interpreted that as "everywhere"
[20:05] <perth> guess it means "everything be careful"
[20:06] <tomreyn> !repos | perth
[20:07] <perth> I got it now, thanks! (misunderstood "universe" name implications caused bad assumptions)
[20:07] <tomreyn> perth: see also "What software is officially supported by the Ubuntu Security team?" at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ
[20:07] <tomreyn> welcome
[20:13] <Moppy> Can someone explain where and how to change where snap apps write data?
[20:16] <tomreyn> Moppy: you could ask in #snappy
[20:16] <Moppy> for example i installed hexchat via snap, and when i try to set the download directory, it cant read certain folders - or it can, but rhough an alias which requires me to use a different path
[20:17] <Moppy> ok, i joined snappy. thanks.
[20:22] <faLUCE> hello. Please help me! :-). Network-manager's gui has messed up (I don't understand why) and I can't edit connections... Is there a way to fix that or reset it to the default?
[20:26] <adrian_1908> faLUCE: First thing i'd do is reboot if you haven't tried that already. Otherwise, maybe you could try dpkg-reconfigure on network manager.
[20:28] <faLUCE> adrian_1908: in some way I succeeded in creating a new connection. It's a hotspot one (With an usb nic). However, other devices see this connection, but they can't connect to it
[20:31] <shyakagen> hey
[20:31] <Moppy> OK, afrer reading many docs I've decided that snaps were designed for server apps on ubuntu cloud boxes and they're not very good for end user applications :( I did fix the problem I had though.
[20:38] <shyakagen> can any one guess for latest ubuntu well upgrade??
[20:38] <shyakagen> *any
[20:44] <burzos> Are the ubuntu and Debian package repositories identical?
[20:45] <tomreyn> burzos: neither are ubuntu and debian identical nor are their package repositories, no.
[20:46] <burzos> What steps do Ubuntu maintainers usually have to take in order for the Debian package to work with Ubuntu?
[20:47] <tomreyn> that's maybe more of a topic for #ubuntu-devel
[20:47] <burzos> Ok.
[20:53] <skreech> Can someone help me with a laptop not recognizing the drives on bootup?
[20:54] <ice9> can anyone share the prompt color settings for bash because i lost it?
[20:56] <skreech> ice9: It's not in /etc/profile
[20:57] <ice9> skreech, please check .bashrc or .bash_profile
[20:57] <ice9> skreech, under ~
[20:57] <skreech> ice9: Those should be copies of /etc/bash.bashrc and /etc/profile
[20:58] <skreech> Pre adjustment for your tastes of course
[20:59] <faLUCE> hello. I created a hotspot connection for a tp-link usb wifi dongle which I have plugged into my mobo (ubuntu OS). I did not set any encription/password. My android device sees that connection in the wi-fi list, but it can't connect. Where can I start to fix that?
[20:59] <faLUCE> when the android devices tries to connect it says "connection error"
[21:04] <jonfatino> Anyone know how to launch the ubuntu o/s installer in a livecd over ssh?
[21:05] <jonfatino> with a pre-configured kickstart file (and no I don't want to use the netboot image)
[21:05] <jonfatino> I have to run a few scripts like install megaraaid and configure some LSI volumes before I start setup
[21:12] <skreech> jonfatino: I think there is a Wiki page on that
[21:12] <skreech> Been a while since Ilooked at it though
[21:16] <Keytarman> Hey there
[21:16] <Keytarman> I am having an issue with wine, so looking for a friendly advice
[21:16] <Keytarman> And nope, I am not an alcoholic
[21:17] <Keytarman> :)
[21:18] <Keytarman> I need to install wine 1.9 in ubuntu studio 18.04. For some odd reason I cant do it through the software center, synaptic or gdebi
[21:19] <Keytarman> Wine 3 works perfectly out of the box, however I am having a compatibility issue so 1.9 is the version I have to be going for
[21:19] <Keytarman> Would anyone have any Ideas by any chance?
[21:21] <skreech> Keytarman: Errors?
[21:22] <Keytarman> When I am trying to install the .deb through the Gdebi it gives me no errors what so ever, however, the install button is gray with no explaination whatsoever
[21:22] <skreech> Keytarman: I didn't think alcoholic had any issues with wine :)
[21:22] <Keytarman> :)
[21:23] <Keytarman> wine can turn you to one after of a couple of days of trying to figure it out hehe
[21:23] <Keytarman> Software center just mumbles something quickly about unmet dependencies without any other information
[21:24] <Keytarman> Synaptic just doesnt have the 1.9 there
[21:24] <Keytarman> And whenever I am trying to do it through the terminal all the options I have are wine 3 related
[21:24] <Keytarman> The ppas from the 1.9 related threads just dont add
[21:27] <Keytarman> I am installing some audio production libraries, and I have went through about 150 gb of them already. Everything works like a charm except for the last one, which is unfortunately quite crucial
[21:27] <jackmcbarn26>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[21:28] <Keytarman> Play on linux is not the option either as I am running stuff through the airwave, which is a vst plugin buffer thing
[21:30] <akem> Hey, where can i configure user account auto-logging in 17.10 or 18.04?
[21:32] <adrian_1908> Keytarman: maybe you can use an LXD container? Might be a bit involved, but that's a possible option if you want to suffer through it.
[21:34] <Keytarman> Hmmm. I have no Idea about what the LXD container may be, but I will google that
[21:34] <Keytarman> thank you
[21:38] <adrian_1908> Keytarman: Basically, it would allow you to set up a separate (slim) linux environment and install WINE 1.9 there so it doesn't conflict with your host system. I haven't used LXD in a bit (want to get back into it asap myself), but it might be somewhat involved to get graphics pass-through, and access to shared directories (audio files) etc.
[21:39] <adrian_1908> It might also "just work", I heard it's getting easier with every release.
[21:40] <Keytarman> From my experience over the past 8 or so years it is all getting better and easier
[21:41] <Keytarman> If it wasnt for this one particular plugin it would be considered working out of the box without any problems
[21:41] <Keytarman> Im going to give it a try
[21:41] <Keytarman> Thank you for your advice,  adrian_1908
[21:42] <adrian_1908> You're welcome. It pains me to think that you have to do that for that one plugin, but I have no better suggestion right now.
[21:43] <Keytarman> Yeah - another option would be redoing the whole thing with ubuntu 16
[21:44] <Keytarman> And that is even more pain it seems
[21:45] <Keytarman> Do you thing that plugin would be able to run from an lxd image into the regular session host?
[21:45] <Keytarman> *think even
[21:45] <adrian_1908> Keytarman: I'm not familiar with these VST plugins (or audio in general). Is it just an Windows executable or?
[21:47] <Keytarman> it is a dll based plugin which then goes into a wrapper called airwave that creates a .so library for the host to load and runs the dll through wine in the middle
[21:47] <Keytarman> And now as I think of it adding another layer in between might just make it unusable
[21:47] <Keytarman> And we are talking about the realtime stuff
[21:47] <Keytarman> :/
[21:48] <Keytarman> the host program is linux native
[21:49] <Keytarman> I am running quite a few plugins that way and they work like a charm
[21:49] <adrian_1908> Keytarman: So assuming it would work right now, You'd have the dll file, an executable "Airwave" running in WINE that transforms it into an .so and your host loads that?
[21:50] <Keytarman> yep
[21:50] <Keytarman> Pretty much that
[21:50] <Keytarman> And more than that - the plugin will be loading sound libraries, sometimes larger than 2 gb
[21:51] <Keytarman> Surprisingly that whole system worked perfectly under 1.9
[21:51] <Keytarman> Worked even better through the 3.0 but that particular plug in somehow does not work with the 3.0
[21:51] <adrian_1908> Ok, fascinating. Generally speaking, is it's just code and you don't need some kind of "audio bridge", then I would assume the container might work. You can give it access to resources (including storage) on the host.
[21:52] <Keytarman> And winehq has zero information on it past version 1.9
[21:52] <adrian_1908> s/is it's just/if it's just
[21:53] <adrian_1908> Be aware that a linux container image is like 300MB or so though, they're much beefier than others (which you can use too).
[21:53] <Keytarman> well as far as I understand the audio bridging is done by the host part
[21:54] <Keytarman> I am sorry, I am not entirely bright with that - I am just a lowly music composer
[21:54] <Keytarman> That stuff is pretty hardcore for my linux skills
[21:55] <Keytarman> :)))
[21:55] <adrian_1908> :)
[21:55] <Keytarman> is it 300 mb RAM we are talking about?
[21:56] <adrian_1908> I mean Ubuntu container image being 300MB btw, they're ALL linux container images. I need to go to bed, I keep making mistakes and that's bad when doling out advice :)
[21:56] <adrian_1908> 300MB on the disk
[21:56] <Keytarman> Ah, that is not that scary.
[21:56] <adrian_1908> Ram wise it's super efficient, the container barely adds any overhead
[21:56] <Keytarman> But thank you very much for reaching out to help, I appreciate that
[21:57] <adrian_1908> You can install smaller distros like the popular 'alpine', but then they won't have the familiar tools of Ubuntu.
[21:57] <Keytarman> Well it all works on the other machine with xubuntu 16
[21:58] <Keytarman> I will try to sex it up with the wine 3.0 for a while, then try the LXD - and if all fails - its another 5 hours reinstall for me :/
[21:59] <Keytarman> Damn it ubuntu, I am really trying to make this work:))))
[22:00] <adrian_1908> Here's the list of available container distros: https://images.linuxcontainers.org   So you can easily run e.g. 16.04 on your 18.04 host.
[22:00] <adrian_1908> I'm out now, good luck.
[22:00] <Keytarman> Cheers man, have a nice one
[22:02] <rnet> hello, i can not update or upgrade my Lubuntu from kernel 17.04 to any 18.xx. What I see is only connection problem error although there is a clear connection.
[22:02] <skreech> can you pastebin the error?
[22:02] <rnet> I have tried to unset proxy or many different solutions on forums but still not solved
[22:04] <rnet>   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.149 80] E: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6_2.24-9ubuntu2.2_amd64.deb alınamadı 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.149 80] E: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6_2.24-9ubuntu2.2_i386.deb alınamadı 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.149 80] E: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/locales_2.24-9ubuntu2.2_all.deb alınamadı 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.
[22:04] <skreech> Do other network operations work?
[22:06] <oryois> is there a way to view all users password in a machine , (im rooted)
[22:07] <rnet> Yes all other software connects
[22:07] <skreech> oryois: cat /etc/secure but it's all encrypted
[22:07] <skreech> rnet: I think that you have external mirrors. Try disabing them
[22:08] <rnet> @skreech: how?
[22:08] <skreech> !mirrors
[22:08] <H31337> skreech: Error: "mirrors" is not a valid command.
[22:08] <Bashing-om> rnet: Hummm .. I have the thought that from 17.04 may not be possible to release upgrade due to that SpectreAndMeltdown vulnerability .
[22:10] <skreech> Bashing-om: Hmm would that give a 404?
[22:11] <rnet> E:The repository 'http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu zesty-security Release' does no longer have a Release file., W:Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default., W:See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details., E:The repository 'http://ftp.linux.org.tr/ubuntu zesty Release' does not have a Release file., W:Updating from such a repository can't be done s
[22:11] <rnet> sorry. this is the main error
[22:12] <skreech> rnet: disable that mirror I would say
[22:14] <skreech> !repository
[22:14] <H31337> skreech: Error: "repository" is not a valid command.
[22:14] <Bashing-om> skreech: Not conversant with the upgrade process, but at one time the path of 17.10 was blocked.
[22:14] <skreech> rnet: read that first link
[22:15] <rnet> thanks
[22:17] <skreech> rnet: find the security lines and put a # in front of the line(s) and save it.
[22:57] <ozbrk> all hail to you guardians of the night
[22:59] <ozbrk> I have a question for ya! I'm learning phyton as a hobby and I guess ubuntu has it already installed how can I check the version
[23:01] <rfm> ozbrk, 'python --version' -- note that python2 and python3 may both be installed, so 'python2 --version' and 'python3 --version' also are interesting...
[23:07] <ozbrk> how to give a cookie to someone in here again ?
[23:12] <patr0clus> im enjoying ubuntu budgie
[23:16] <Belial> anyone using kde connect indicator?
[23:17] <x_unknown_x> seeing if anyone else has had their 18.04 randomly crash to a black screen with blinking cursor
[23:19] <lilkuz2005> x_unknown_x, nope, no issues here, have you checked your memory? what gpu are you running ?
[23:19] <x_unknown_x> old amd64
[23:20] <x_unknown_x> its a m-series gateway upgraded to 4GB RAM
[23:21] <lilkuz2005> x_unknown_x, yeah im not really sure about your issue, you could check the logs in the /var/log directory to see the panic
[23:22] <x_unknown_x> thanks. it also would crash to the splash screen some times. im sure its possibly hardware issues since the laptop is soo old but one never knows. been researching it and unable to quite find the exact issue elsewhere
[23:22] <x_unknown_x> going through the logs to see what i can find. thanks again :)
[23:23] <lilkuz2005> x_unknown_x, open terminal, cd to /var/crash and run the ls command
[23:24] <lilkuz2005> in that crash directory on my system is showing the blueman-assistant has crashed like 4 times, but i think it has to do with the playstation 3 controller i was messing with
[23:25] <x_unknown_x> just seeing chromium and jvm for today, inetd a few days ago
[23:27] <lilkuz2005> x_unknown_x, in the /var/logs directory you can see all the logs
[23:42] <greyboat> will 16.04 get hwe package updates from 18.10?
[23:47] <jerichowasahoax> I've got an NFS share that didn't seem to get automatically mounted when this box came up. "sudo mount /mnt/nfs/share" just worked without issues. Is there something I'm supposed to be doing to enable automatic netmounting?
[23:47] <jerichowasahoax> I'm still on 16.04
[23:49] <jerichowasahoax> greyboat: that kind of thing happens in the backports repositories
[23:56] <lilkuz2005> jerichowasahoax, do you know gnome-disks installed ?
[23:57] <jerichowasahoax> lilkuz2005: negative. this is actually a server environment but i didn't figure "mounting a network filesystem from elsewhere" to be a server-specific issue
[23:58] <lilkuz2005> ah