| tsimonq2 | Oh hai. | 02:21 |
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| wxl | @VikingRedwolf booting in vbox the GRUB image looks blurry. is that just me? | 02:22 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> It's debian-cd. | 02:22 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> I hacked up something but @VikingRedwolf really needs to get us a sharper image or an SVG. | 02:23 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> I have an SVG for the logo but not the text + logo | 02:23 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> wxl: Fun fact, boot screen on the live CD is just a directory of images in debian-cd and then it hands off to Plymouth. | 02:24 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> I tried to use the image from Plymouth to no avail. | 02:24 |
| wxl | okie | 02:24 |
| wxl | should i make a bug/task for that? | 02:24 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> If @VikingRedwolf wants | 02:25 |
| wxl | i'll wait to hear from him | 02:25 |
| wxl | meanwhile i'm a little split about something | 02:25 |
| wxl | it's great that double clicking on a .desktop asks if you want to open (edit) or execute | 02:26 |
| wxl | it also sucks | 02:26 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> I totally get it. | 02:26 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> They're implementing metadata upstream. | 02:26 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Soooo I'm thinking we can just ship metadata. | 02:26 |
| wxl | it would be nice if we could set it to just execute it | 02:27 |
| wxl | on a per file basis | 02:27 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> wxl: Also, did you see that in Calamares I wrote a script which automatically selects a mirror based on geographic location? | 02:27 |
| wxl | haven't got that far yet | 02:27 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @wxl, Right, that's the metadata. | 02:27 |
| wxl | ok | 02:28 |
| wxl | do any of the isos support upgrading frmo the iso any longer? | 02:30 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> I don't think so. | 02:30 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Quite frankly I'm not concerned about that until 19.04. | 02:30 |
| wxl | we already have a bug re: btrfs? | 02:37 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Oh? | 02:38 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> What's wrong? | 02:39 |
| wxl | failed with gpt/btrfs it seems | 02:39 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Is btrfs-progs installed? | 02:40 |
| wxl | yep | 02:42 |
| wxl | trying it with mbr | 02:42 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Hmm | 02:43 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: https://share.riseup.net/#7Ma3Zf7fbFQXYHxYBiIZWQ the --target=i386-pc is interesting because this is amd64 but it seems the issue is related to the blocklist??? | 03:04 |
| wxl | this only seems to be the case with btrfs/gpt | 03:06 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @wxl, Try joining #calamares and pinging [ade] with your findings. | 03:07 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: should we have nm-tray in the menu? that seems weird. also maybe this is a virtualbox specific issue but it seems that if i try to "edit connections" off the context menu, nothing happens | 04:51 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: yeah, actually it's trying to run xterm -e nmtui-edit and xterm doesn't exist | 04:54 |
| wxl | also don't we have something better than nmtui? i mean i love it but it's not pretty | 04:55 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @wxl, Uhm... Why not have nm-tray? | 04:56 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Yeah, graphical connections editor is on the TODO list. | 04:57 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> I'll need to FFe it. | 04:57 |
| wxl | nm-tray good. nm-tray in the menu not great. unless you like having lots of nm-tray icons :) | 04:57 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Oh... Huh | 04:57 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Yeah no that shouldn't be there. | 04:57 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Create a task to blacklist it from the menu? | 04:57 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Either way I need to hit the hay | 04:58 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Night | 04:58 |
| wxl | nite | 04:58 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: blacklist nm-tray from the menu] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51 | 05:00 | |
| lubot5 | <VikingRedwolf> @tsimonq2, You can't use an SVG for boot. And I hate that. Only a bloody xpm thing and a PNG | 06:16 |
| lubot5 | <VikingRedwolf> Are you using an hdpi screen? | 06:17 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf, ...I need the SVG to make the PNG (or I need you to make one) | 06:17 |
| lubot5 | <VikingRedwolf> @wxl, Morning! :| | 06:17 |
| lubot5 | <VikingRedwolf> @tsimonq2, Ah LOL | 06:17 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf, No, and it's not because of that. | 06:17 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Well, it kinda is. .__. | 06:18 |
| lubot5 | <VikingRedwolf> @tsimonq2, No. It's mine. | 06:18 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf, Then make the bloody PNG | 06:18 |
| lubot5 | <VikingRedwolf> 😂 | 06:18 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: so [ade] is not in a position to help and suggested filing an issue. meanwhile, how did we fix it before to get ubuntu-bug to use the right browser? it's trying to use qupzilla again | 15:17 |
| wxl | inexplicably alternatives and lxqt-session both seem to consider falkon the default. xdg-open doesn't. oddly, xdg-open query default x-scheme-handler/http(s) and index/html all return firefox.desktop, but they seem to try to open qupzilla. there's no firefox anywhere. oddly xdg-open on an html file opens falkon, but only after reporting failing to find qupzilla vis a vis sensible-browser | 15:46 |
| wxl | looks like both lynorian and i saw this before but i had called it resolved | 16:04 |
| wxl | oh and there's no /usr/share/applications/falkon.desktop odd | 16:06 |
| wxl | ok well i think i may have found the reason why it's spitting out firefox. /usr/share/applications/defaults.list -> /etc/gnome/defaults.list includes it | 16:11 |
| wxl | the desktop file is org.kde.falkon.desktop | 16:14 |
| wxl | still, setting it as default for index/html still reports a fail from sensible-browser not finding qupzilla | 16:14 |
| wxl | setting it for x-scheme-handler/http still results in a fail trying to find qupzilla (sensible-browser not involved) | 16:15 |
| wxl | sed -i 's/firefox/org\.kde\.falkon/g' /etc/gnome/defaults.lists doesn't seem to change anything, though | 16:17 |
| wxl | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1769780 | 16:29 |
| ubot93 | Launchpad bug 1769780 in lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "lubuntu next does not have mime type for html set to falkon it looks for non existant qupzilla" [Undecided, Expired] | 16:29 |
| wxl | actually the /etc/gnome/defaults.list fixes ubuntu-bug's behavior-- but not xdg | 16:50 |
| wxl | bug 1786976 | 16:51 |
| ubot93 | Bug 1786976 in tripleo "Redfish username/password should be optional" [Low, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786976 | 16:51 |
| wxl | oops | 16:51 |
| wxl | bug 1786986 | 16:51 |
| ubot93 | Bug 1786986 in lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-bug fails trying to open qupzilla browser" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786986 | 16:51 |
| wxl | fat finger | 16:51 |
| wxl | ^^ lynorian could you check that | 16:52 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Hmm | 17:34 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> I'll look into it, thanks wxl | 17:34 |
| wxl | it's freaking confounding | 17:35 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> First guess: XDG. | 17:36 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Second guess: Falkon postinst script still hardcoding Qupzilla somewhere. | 17:36 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Third guess, upstream Falkon hasn't fully renamed yet. | 17:36 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> As a workaround we can symlink /usr/bin/qupzilla to /usr/bin/falkon or whatever but that's kinda hacky. | 17:37 |
| wxl | xdg is being weird, but i don't think it's xdg | 17:37 |
| wxl | technically there's two issues: | 17:38 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> I got upload access to fix the XDG stuff yesterday. 🤣 | 17:38 |
| wxl | 1. ubuntu-bug fails to open a browser.. this can be fixed by replacing firefox with org.kde.falkon in /etc/gnome/defaults.list | 17:39 |
| wxl | 2. xdg-open fails to open http(s) URIs | 17:39 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Use apt-file find to tell me where that file from 1) comes from. | 17:40 |
| wxl | i'll bother with that next time i'm in front of the puter :) | 17:40 |
| wxl | oh well i guess i'll download a vm on this machine | 17:40 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> Mkay | 17:41 |
| lynorian | wxl I think I had a similar bug I reported way back but I should test yours | 17:48 |
| wxl | lynorian: the bug mentions yours and i had actually commented on that bug | 17:48 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: desktop-file-utils | 18:07 |
| lubot5 | <tsimonq2> @wxl, Yup. | 18:13 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: note agaida's comment about xdg-open and the firefox angle. that's kind of the 3rd bug that has a relatively minor affect: the fact that no matter what, xdg-mime thinks firefox.desktop is the right browser to use | 18:14 |
| * tsimonq2 stretches. | 18:18 | |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: Sure. | 18:18 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: By the way; password strength checker in the installer, love it or hate it? | 18:19 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: it seems relatively consistent with ubiquity but i haven't really checked its abilities | 18:19 |
| wxl | wonder if it will let me use unicode :) | 18:20 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: Because there's this sweet password checker library that Cala can be enabled to use. | 18:20 |
| tsimonq2 | I switched it on in the dailies a few days ago. | 18:20 |
| wxl | ah cool | 18:20 |
| wxl | well | 18:20 |
| wxl | huh | 18:20 |
| wxl | it does let me use the same password as the username | 18:20 |
| wxl | that might not be ideal | 18:20 |
| tsimonq2 | If people start b****ing at us, are you totes cool with saying "well, use a stronger password!" ? | 18:21 |
| tsimonq2 | I am, if you are. | 18:21 |
| wxl | absolutely | 18:21 |
| tsimonq2 | Cool. | 18:21 |
| wxl | but it also might not be working all that well (see above) | 18:21 |
| tsimonq2 | https://github.com/calamares/calamares/blob/master/src/modules/users/users.conf#L61 | 18:21 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: That's the info on it. | 18:22 |
| wxl | you mean https://github.com/libpwquality/libpwquality is | 18:23 |
| tsimonq2 | Yeah. | 18:23 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: Our config: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/browse/master/lubuntu/modules/users.conf$13 | 18:23 |
| wxl | OOOOH GITHUB CAN VIEW MANPAGES | 18:24 |
| wxl | https://github.com/libpwquality/libpwquality/blob/master/doc/man/pam_pwquality.8.pod | 18:24 |
| wxl | i wnoder if usercheck would work | 18:25 |
| wxl | probably not | 18:25 |
| tsimonq2 | Play with it; i.e. get a live ISO and tweak it on the live system. | 18:25 |
| tsimonq2 | /etc/calamares is where it's all installed. | 18:25 |
| wxl | i suggest minLength: 8 personally but some people will hate me | 18:28 |
| wxl | minclass: 4 is also my personal requirement | 18:29 |
| wxl | you should explicitly include dictcheck: 1 (it should be default, but make sure) | 18:30 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: Confirm that it works and maybe send a diff. | 18:31 |
| tsimonq2 | Maybe you can do your first Arcanist diff on Phab. ;) | 18:31 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: so i just edit /etc/calamres/modules/users.conf and run calamares? | 18:40 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: Yup, but Cala has to be closed when you edit the file. | 18:40 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: Ohhhhhh, you see agaida's comment? It's after $BROWSER is set... | 18:41 |
| wxl | oh jesus that's it???? | 18:42 |
| tsimonq2 | On my Lubuntu Cosmic setup: | 18:42 |
| tsimonq2 | $ echo $BROWSER | 18:42 |
| tsimonq2 | qupzilla | 18:42 |
| wxl | i don't think this works | 18:43 |
| tsimonq2 | OH: I was right about postinst. | 18:43 |
| wxl | (the password checker) | 18:43 |
| tsimonq2 | Harumph. :/ | 18:43 |
| wxl | dictcheck breaks it altogether | 18:43 |
| wxl | but minclass=4 accepts only 2 classes | 18:43 |
| wxl | actually it accepts only one | 18:44 |
| tsimonq2 | Ah. | 18:44 |
| tsimonq2 | # if BROWSER variable is not set, check some well known browsers instead | 18:44 |
| tsimonq2 | if [ x"$BROWSER" = x"" ]; then | 18:44 |
| tsimonq2 | BROWSER=www-browser:links2:elinks:links:lynx:w3m | 18:44 |
| tsimonq2 | if has_display; then | 18:44 |
| tsimonq2 | BROWSER=x-www-browser:firefox:iceweasel:seamonkey:mozilla:epiphany:konqueror:chromium:chromium-browser:google-chrome:$BROWSER | 18:44 |
| tsimonq2 | fi | 18:44 |
| tsimonq2 | We need to set x-www-browser in Falkon's postinst. | 18:44 |
| tsimonq2 | fi | 18:44 |
| tsimonq2 | Yeah no. | 18:44 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: Keep playing with it. ;) | 18:44 |
| wxl | yeah nope | 18:45 |
| wxl | even JUST including minclass=4 doesn't do anything | 18:45 |
| wxl | it's brokeded | 18:45 |
| tsimonq2 | hmm | 18:45 |
| wxl | the only part that seems to work is the min and max length | 18:45 |
| wxl | maybe libpwquality isn't available at build time? | 18:46 |
| wxl | because that's the part that's not working | 18:46 |
| tsimonq2 | For Cala? | 18:46 |
| tsimonq2 | I mean, I can try it after this. | 18:46 |
| wxl | the min/maxlength are actually built into Cala | 18:46 |
| tsimonq2 | Yeah. | 18:48 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: You're right about needing a Cala build dep. | 19:01 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: wellllll the comments say as such XD | 19:04 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: i still don't understand how $BROWSER is set to qupzilla. unless it's already set (what would it be set by? it's not in falkon's postinst), looking at /usr/bin/xdg-open, $BROWSER should be x-www-browser:etc. which would just work | 19:24 |
| wxl | indeed BROWSER=x-www-browser Just Worksâ„¢ | 19:27 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGSd6652367c57e: Add a changelog entry for the Danish translation.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGSd6652367c57e | 21:23 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGSd2394fa5a6ba: Make the password detection runtime dep into a build dep.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGSd2394fa5a6ba | 21:23 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGS82b66ac9a3ec: Bump Standards-version to 4.2.0, no changes needed.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGS82b66ac9a3ec | 21:23 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGS8eeeac57c6db: Upload to Cosmic.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGS8eeeac57c6db | 21:23 | |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: strange is that on efi the live cd boots to the login screen. any idea what we need to do to fix that? | 22:06 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: uuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhh | 22:06 |
| tsimonq2 | waaaaaaaat | 22:06 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: tested with efi mode in vbox to be fair but i doubt it'd be different on real hardware | 22:07 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: Interesting, because it works fine on UEFI with QEMU. | 22:07 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: I also have real hardware. | 22:07 |
| wxl | maybe a regression? | 22:08 |
| tsimonq2 | Nope, just tested with QEMU. I can test with Real Hardware in a few. | 22:09 |
| wxl | bt-dubs https://github.com/calamares/calamares/issues/1014 | 22:09 |
| ubot93 | Issue 1014 in calamares/calamares "btrfs on GPT with BIOS fails" [Open] | 22:09 |
| tsimonq2 | Buggy VirtualBox is buggy. XD | 22:09 |
| * wxl shrugs | 22:09 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGSd9dc0546f68b: Remove the build dep completely.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGSd9dc0546f68b | 22:13 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGSe628ebc084cd: Upload to Cosmic.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGSe628ebc084cd | 22:13 | |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH | 22:22 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: I figured out the xdg-open stuff. | 22:23 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: LXQt Session Settings -> Default Applications. | 22:23 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: Fixing. | 22:23 |
| wxl | what? no | 22:24 |
| tsimonq2 | yuuuuuup. | 22:24 |
| wxl | i checked that, i swear | 22:24 |
| tsimonq2 | Nope. | 22:24 |
| tsimonq2 | That fixed it. | 22:24 |
| wxl | oh | 22:24 |
| wxl | look at that | 22:24 |
| tsimonq2 | lubuntu-default-settings (ubuntu/cosmic)$ grep -R "qupzilla" | 22:25 |
| tsimonq2 | src/etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/lxqt/session.conf:BROWSER=qupzilla | 22:25 |
| tsimonq2 | src/etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/lxqt/panel.conf:apps\2\desktop=/usr/share/applications/org.qupzilla.QupZilla.desktop | 22:25 |
| wxl | so weird that it sets it via the variable | 22:27 |
| wxl | personally i'd consider that a bug against lxqt-session | 22:29 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: Blame agaida. XD | 22:30 |
| wxl | i usually do | 22:30 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rDEFAULTSETTINGSdc68d9f740e6: We use Falkon now, not Qupzilla (LP: #1786986).] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGSdc68d9f740e6 | 22:37 | |
| wxl | what i don't understand is how that didn't affect anything else XD | 22:37 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: BTW, do you see the fancy bug commenter? bug 1786986 | 22:37 |
| ubot93 | Bug 1786986 in lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-bug fails trying to open qupzilla browser" [Medium, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786986 | 22:37 |
| tsimonq2 | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 22:37 |
| wxl | and this is why i say it's a problem the way they do things: too many systems working in too many different ways | 22:37 |
| wxl | very nice | 22:38 |
| wxl | btw <email address hidden> on lugito's launchpad profile | 22:38 |
| wxl | you might want to spell it out (at, dot, etc) | 22:38 |
| tsimonq2 | Because it's some weird one of mine. | 22:39 |
| tsimonq2 | Long term we need to get IS to give us lugito@lubuntu.me and point it at a shared inbox for the team. | 22:39 |
| wxl | no i mean in the text | 22:39 |
| wxl | it appears that you're trying to provide a place for people to email about it | 22:39 |
| tsimonq2 | Right now it's MYGMAILACCOUNT+lugito@gmail.com | 22:39 |
| tsimonq2 | ohh | 22:39 |
| tsimonq2 | what | 22:39 |
| tsimonq2 | huh? | 22:39 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: You aren't logged into LP, are you? | 22:40 |
| wxl | doesn't info@ go to all of us? | 22:40 |
| wxl | not currently | 22:40 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: Test out info@ | 22:40 |
| tsimonq2 | I just hope it's not public. | 22:40 |
| tsimonq2 | aha | 22:41 |
| tsimonq2 | Nope, that just goes to lubuntu-admins. | 22:41 |
| wxl | same diff | 22:41 |
| tsimonq2 | If we had a private mailing list, I'd say that's fine. | 22:41 |
| tsimonq2 | But lugito@ might need sensitive info sent to it. | 22:41 |
| wxl | i doubt it | 22:41 |
| tsimonq2 | Auth keys and whatnot. | 22:41 |
| tsimonq2 | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 22:41 |
| tsimonq2 | I dunno man. | 22:41 |
| wxl | if you're sending auth keys into a black hole you deserve what you get :) | 22:41 |
| tsimonq2 | XD | 22:42 |
| tsimonq2 | OK, fine. | 22:42 |
| tsimonq2 | I'll change the email address in LP. | 22:42 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: But you wanna talk to IS about pointing lugito@ to lubuntu-admins? | 22:42 |
| wxl | naw, i'd just put info. same diff. | 22:43 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: What's this? https://launchpad.net/~bfwxl | 22:45 |
| tsimonq2 | :) | 22:45 |
| wxl | one i use for work | 22:45 |
| wxl | i rarely use it | 22:45 |
| tsimonq2 | ahh. | 22:45 |
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