[02:25] <duflu> jamesh, got there in the end: https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/pulseaudio/commit/?h=ubuntu&id=32482472909212177ed924ee3f5e7ac3e6c96f94
[02:25] <duflu> Although, could I have tagged an earlier rev??
[02:26] <duflu> Yes. I could have gone for the second-last one :P
[02:26]  * duflu fixes
[02:30] <duflu> jamesh, now tagged correctly :) https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/pulseaudio
[03:07] <jamesh> duflu: it'd be good to get that repo working with git-buildpackage again.  I can pull in the data from debian's pristine-tar and upstream branches as a start, but we don't have data for the 12.2 release
[03:08] <duflu> jamesh, yeah that was always my plan
[03:08] <duflu> As I said last week
[03:17] <duflu> Although I don't like using git extensions myself, when we rebase you should have that option again
[03:18] <jamesh> the "gbp pq" commands were really useful in updating the patches though
[03:20] <jamesh> being able to import the patch queue to a git branch, edit individual patches with "git rebase -i", then export them back to patches again was a decent workflow
[03:21] <duflu> Fair enough. I'm a purist though, and my muscle memory for git + quilt is good enough
[03:23] <duflu> I would have waited longer for Debian to get to 12.2 but I could tell Seb didn't love that idea
[07:15] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:21] <jibel> bonjour oSoMoN
[07:23] <seb128> lut les frenchies
[07:23] <seb128> en forme ?
[07:23] <seb128> (&good morning desktopers)
[07:23] <jibel> Salut seb128, ça va ça va et toi?
[07:24] <seb128> ouais, nickel!
[07:24] <oSoMoN> salut jibel & seb128
[07:24] <oSoMoN> pas beaucoup dormi, mais ça va
[07:25] <seb128> ah, le manque de sommeil cronique :/
[07:28] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN, jibel
[07:28] <duflu>  /les frenchies/
[07:33] <oSoMoN> bonjour duflu
[07:34] <seb128> duflu, your gdm regression, did you mention it to Trevinho & Laney?
[07:35] <duflu> seb128, they have not yet been awake since the bugs were created
[07:35] <duflu> today
[07:35] <seb128> k
[07:35] <seb128> did you pinpoint the issue to a specific update? e.g did you try downgrading gdm?
[07:36] <duflu> Also, I want to give myself a chance to clear out any gitlab conversations before returning to those again
[07:36] <duflu> But I will downgrade things soon
[07:46] <jibel> oSoMoN, FYI, LTS upgrade is enabled
[07:46] <seb128> since when?
[07:47] <oSoMoN> jibel, thanks!
[07:47] <jibel> seb128, last night
[07:47] <seb128> or asked differently, did we see a spike of errors/new reports already? ;)
[07:47] <jibel> seb128, not yet
[07:56] <duflu> "What can possibly go wrong?"
[07:57] <duflu> Well, actually everything should spike. Or else the stats aren't working
[07:57] <duflu> Although there will be a delay of days/weeks too
[08:01] <Laney> hi
[08:01] <duflu> Hi
[08:05] <oSoMoN> hi Laney
[08:08] <willcooke> morning alklk
[08:08] <willcooke> geez
[08:09] <duflu> Morning willcooke
[08:09] <duflu> Is it strange I read geez in a Napolian Dynamite voice?
[08:10] <willcooke> :)
[08:10] <seb128> hey willcooke Laney, how are you?
[08:10] <willcooke> good thanks!  How about you seb128?
[08:10] <willcooke> Enjoying the cool weather?
[08:10] <seb128> I'm godd!
[08:11] <seb128> good
[08:11] <duflu> Ha
[08:12] <seb128> yeah, it's much nicer when it's not 36°C
[08:12] <Laney> hi duflu oSoMoN willcooke seb128
[08:12] <Laney> yeah iz good
[08:12] <Laney> was out pruning the lavender this morning and didn't turn into a puddle
[08:16] <willcooke> :)
[08:17] <Laney> and as a bonus everything smells great now
[08:27] <andyrock> seb128: https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/+git/gnome-initial-setup/+ref/ubuntu/master
[10:06] <duflu> Laney, all upstreamed, but I think I have killed Gitlab.
[10:06] <duflu> So that's a good place to say: good night all
[10:07] <Laney> duflu: Cheers. It's been slow for me for the past day or so too.
[10:33] <Trevinho> seb128: as for the duflu regression, I saw a mention in trello, which patch should I get back in?
[11:41] <seb128> hey Trevinho, gdm is bug #1786872 but that's probably another issue sideeffect of the change to don't let the greeter active all the time
[11:41] <seb128> Trevinho, so probably not for you, let's see what upstream says
[11:55] <Laney> https://github.com/ImageMagick/ImageMagick6/commits/master
[11:55] <Laney> such commit messages
[11:56] <seb128> hehe
[11:58] <seb128> he often writes some content in the changelog though, weird workflow
[12:23] <GunnarHj> Hello Laney, do you have time to look at the patch at bug #1786880?
[13:13] <smoser> Laney: correct me if i'm wrong.. but i think about a week later we're still stuck in about the same spot on the lubuntu-desktop migration (including software-properties). :-(.
[13:13] <smoser> the seeds have been updated, but not the meta-package.
[13:13] <smoser> running ./update from lubuntu-meta results in:
[13:13] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CJ7ZkGTcwr/
[13:14] <smoser> i don't see an obvious wy to convince it to use proposed.
[13:14] <smoser> whats the way out of here?
[13:21] <jbicha> smoser: wasn't that already handled with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/1.7
[13:22] <jbicha> I think the software-properties transition is entangled with Qt & ffmpeg
[13:25] <smoser> jbicha: yeah, you're right. i hadn't seen that... had out of date sources locally.
[13:26] <smoser> although i think quite arguably that update was wrong. as it only picked up half of the last seed change.
[13:26] <smoser>  https://git.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/lubuntu/commit/?id=28b7475723110e6b6eefa6bae16e389ffafa1777
[13:26] <smoser> due to the stuck-in-proposed.
[13:28] <smoser> it feels like there has to be some common way out of such a situation.
[13:30] <Laney> GunnarHj_: Maybe later on. It'd be easier if you would do a merge proposal though please.
[13:30] <jbicha> I just manually edit the files in that situation. Or in this case, they can just do a lubuntu-meta update after the transition
[13:31] <jibel> Meeting time folks!
[13:31] <jibel> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-14
[13:31] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Aug 14 13:31:20 2018 UTC.  The chair is jibel. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[13:31] <andyrock> hey hey
[13:31] <jibel> Roll call:  andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel, heber, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[13:31] <oSoMoN> 🐵/
[13:32] <seb128> hey
[13:32] <jibel> #topic andyrock
[13:32] <andyrock> hey
[13:32] <heber> o/
[13:32] <andyrock> - Gnome-shell:
[13:32] <andyrock>   * Updated MR https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/162 following upstrea review
[13:32] <andyrock> - Gnome-Online-Accounts:
[13:32] <andyrock>   * Investigating if it’s possible to use login.ubuntu.com webpage in the login dialog. I’ve some idea on how to do this, but I’ll need to talk with upstream to discuss API changes
[13:32] <andyrock> - Gnome-Initial-Setup:
[13:32] <andyrock>   * MR to upload to 3.29.1
[13:32] <andyrock>   * MR to include fix for LP: #1764723 that has never been uploaded in repos
[13:32] <andyrock>   * MR to add the online accounts page to the ubuntu wizard
[13:32] <andyrock> - 3.28 -> 3.29:
[13:32] <andyrock>   * Gtk3 in debian experimental (merged)
[13:32] <andyrock>   * gtk3 for cosmic (wip)
[13:32] <andyrock>   * gnome-calculator in debian experimental (waiting for review)
[13:32] <andyrock>   * Gnome-disk-utility in debian experimental (waiting for review)
[13:32] <andyrock> - Reviews:
[13:32] <andyrock>   * https://code.launchpad.net/~muktupavels/compiz/ccsm-python3/+merge/351940/+index?ss=1
[13:32] <andyrock> - Livepatch:
[13:32] <andyrock>   * Started the work to add a reminder in update-manager
[13:33] <andyrock> EOW
[13:33] <jibel> Thanks
[13:33] <jibel> #topic dgadomski
[13:34] <seb128> andyrock, I'm looking at your items waiting for review today/tomorrow
[13:35] <jibel> no dgadomski_, didrocks is on holidays, next is
[13:35] <jibel> #topic duflu
[13:35] <jibel> * Gnome Shell performance:
[13:35] <jibel>   - Work in progress again: GPU-less picking support: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/189
[13:35] <jibel>   - Proposed a Debian update https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/mutter/merge_requests/13 from
[13:35] <jibel>     . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/117
[13:35] <jibel>     . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/168
[13:35] <jibel>     . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/171
[13:35] <jibel> * PulseAudio:
[13:35] <jibel>   - Version 12.2 released to cosmic (thanks Seb):
[13:35] <jibel>     . https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/1:12.2-0ubuntu1
[13:35] <jibel>     . https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/1:12.2-0ubuntu2
[13:35] <jibel> * Hardware video decoding:
[13:35] <jibel>   - Upgraded mpv to version 0.29.0 from Debian:
[13:35] <jibel>     . Merged and rewrote the Ubuntu hardware acceleration fixes to work with it.
[13:35] <jibel>     . Now awaiting sponsorship: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1785993
[13:36] <jibel> * Recent Cosmic regressions:
[13:36] <jibel>   - Presently trying to figure out what went wrong with gdm3/mutter updates this week (help!?):
[13:36] <jibel>     . https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786883
[13:36] <jibel>     . https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786872
[13:36] <jibel> * Daily bug management:
[13:36] <jibel>   - Finished revising a couple hundred more artful bugs and set most on a course to close in October.
[13:36] <jibel>   - Two noteworthy packages whose backlogs have reversed by a year's worth recently:
[13:36] <jibel>     . firefox (paulw2u)
[13:36] <jibel>     . xorg (duflu)
[13:36] <jibel>   - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRDHPxGBHqM6XkT_S8ggtYfD0xchKSUD_z9PopNVE3G1rU05fVSnxDGcDsEstl7gu7N-tzCU6mLUp2V/pubchart?oid=254968654&format=interactive
[13:36] <jibel> Thanks duflu
[13:37] <jibel> #topic heber
[13:37] <heber> hey!
[13:37] <heber> * Fixing utah desktop tests.
[13:37] <heber> * Start preparing nvidia testing plan
[13:37] <heber> EOF
[13:37] <jibel> Thanks heber
[13:37] <jibel> #topic jamesh
[13:38] <jibel> pulseaudio:
[13:38] <jibel> * The 1:12.2-0ubuntu2 release with the new Snap policy module is now in Cosmic.
[13:38] <jibel> * Before working on backporting it, jdstrand noticed a problem in the module's
[13:38] <jibel>   logic related to classic snaps:
[13:38] <jibel>   https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/pulseaudio-recording/6361/14?u=jamesh -- classic
[13:38] <jibel>   snapped apps will have an AppArmor label, but may not include plugs for the
[13:38] <jibel>   relevant interfaces.  This is a relatively simple modification to what I did
[13:38] <jibel>   for -0ubuntu2, so we should have a -0ubuntu3 out soon.
[13:38] <jibel> * The policy module needs to be back ported to bionic and xenial.  Bionic
[13:38] <jibel>   should be trivial, but it is hard to say how hard xenial will be due to the
[13:38] <jibel>   version skew.
[13:38] <jibel> fontconfig cache
[13:39] <jibel> * I am investigating why snapped apps are rebuilding fontconfig caches for
[13:39] <jibel>   directories that have already been cached.  I still don't have a definite
[13:39] <jibel>   cause, but the access() calls it makes seems like they can give inaccurate
[13:39] <jibel>   results with AppArmor.  It needs further investigation.
[13:39] <jibel> For further work, Ken asked me to start looking into the crash reporting
[13:39] <jibel> situation for snaps.  The immediate goal is to have something good enough to
[13:39] <jibel> handle the snaps in the default install.  But even with that limitation, it
[13:39] <jibel> will require changes in multiple projects.  The initial goal is to get
[13:39] <jibel> snapcraft to produce a collection of detached debug symbols matching a snap
[13:39] <jibel> build, and for apport to correctly identify a crash from a snap confined
[13:39] <jibel> process.
[13:39] <jibel> EOW
[13:39] <jibel> Thanks James
[13:40] <jibel> No update for jbicha
[13:40] <jibel> #topic jibel
[13:40] <jibel> - LTS Upgrade:
[13:40] <jibel>     - Review and verification of latest release critical bugs.
[13:40] <jibel>     - Upgrade enabled on Aug. 13th.
[13:40] <jibel>     - Bugs reported so far are due to third party packages blocking the upgrade.
[13:40] <jibel> - Triaged upgrade bugs.
[13:40] <jibel> - Continued the packaging of “Ubuntu Kernel Upgrade Utility” as a snap but slowed down by difficulty to run host binaries from contained binaries on other releases than 16.04
[13:40] <jibel> - Desktop dashboard
[13:40] <jibel>     - Added an “Installations and Upgrades” section to the dashboard.
[13:40] <jibel>     - Added “Installation media” KPIs to the section.
[13:40] <jibel> - New installer: updated the specification with the feature list of current desktop installer.
[13:40] <jibel> EOW
[13:40] <jibel> #topic kenvandine
[13:41] <kenvandine> * Working on respinning the hyper-v Ubuntu Desktop image based on 18.04.1
[13:41] <kenvandine> * Sponsored pulseaudio to cosmic, which adds a call to snapd to separate audio record and playback permissions.
[13:41] <kenvandine> * Refreshed snaps to pickup fixes.
[13:41] <kenvandine> * Started looking at what our snapcraft templates will look like, this will replace the desktop helpers remote part.
[13:41] <kenvandine> ⚾
[13:41] <jibel> is it a done or you played baseball too?
[13:41] <willcooke> :)
[13:41] <kenvandine> done :)
[13:41] <jibel> Thanks ken!
[13:41] <kenvandine> i wish i played baseball this week
[13:41] <kenvandine> :)
[13:42] <jibel> #topic laney
[13:42] <Laney> • Worked with gdm upstream on some bug fixes
[13:42] <Laney> ∘ https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gdm/commit/cf8d918f3dfb2a11ff357275d1d16eaa3f8116c0
[13:42] <Laney> ∘ https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gdm/commit/8169cd4fc83beb5c3835a6ee1fafc6911a887a81
[13:42] <Laney> ∘ & uploaded new release to cosmic
[13:42] <Laney> • Prepared 3.28.3 for bionic & unstable, left for dgadomski or slashd to rebase their MP and upload
[13:42] <Laney> • Working with mutter upstream on a crash bug when using nvidia proprietary drivers
[13:42] <Laney> ∘ https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/198
[13:42] <Laney> • Some work on ongoing transitions
[13:42] <Laney> • Updated trashing on overlayfs glib patch following upstream reviews, committed now
[13:42] <Laney> ∘ https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/glib/commit/1152d99dedd8f5105c81745d8a91fa660de736c9
[13:42] <Laney> • Prepared libsoup2.4, gtk+3.0, glib-networking for exp, hopefully someone will sponsor or else I'll need to upload to cosmic
[13:42] <Laney> just ate: 🍞🥑🥚 #millennial
[13:43] <Trevinho> Gastronerd!
[13:43] <Laney> actually gtk3 was a review for andyrock, that line is inaccurate
[13:43] <seb128> Laney, I can sponsor some of those (maybe not all today, already reviewing ones from andyroc_k first)
[13:44] <Laney> k thx
[13:44] <jibel> Thanks Laney
[13:44] <jibel> #topic oSoMoN
[13:44] <oSoMoN> hey
[13:44] <oSoMoN> • firefox
[13:44] <oSoMoN>   ∘ investigated speech dispatcher support, created trello card as further work is needed (https://trello.com/c/qqj9KKS5/200-add-speech-dispatcher-support-to-desktop-browser-snaps)
[13:44] <oSoMoN> • chromium
[13:44] <oSoMoN>   ∘ bug triaging
[13:44] <oSoMoN>   ∘ focus on transitioning to a snap-only chromium
[13:44] <oSoMoN>     - now building the snap from source with embedded clang, not the one from the distro
[13:44] <oSoMoN>     - replaced "Ubuntu" token by "snap" in UA string
[13:44] <oSoMoN>     - successfully tested headless mode
[13:44] <oSoMoN>     - currently building an i386 snap (only tested on amd64 until now)
[13:44] <oSoMoN>   ∘ updated stable to 68.0.3440.106
[13:44] <oSoMoN>   ∘ updated beta to 69.0.3497.32
[13:44] <oSoMoN>   ∘ updated dev to 70.0.3514.0
[13:44] <oSoMoN> • libreoffice
[13:44] <oSoMoN>   ∘ bug triaging
[13:44] <oSoMoN>   ∘ promoted 6.1.0 snap to the stable channel, then rebuilt to pick up an openjdk security update
[13:44] <oSoMoN>   ∘ reviewed and acked MIR requests for libzmf and libstaroffice (bug #1717926 and bug #1717930)
[13:44] <oSoMoN>   ∘ prepared 6.0.6 SRU for bionic (bug #1785679), this is blocked on the SRU of fonts-liberation and fonts-liberation2 (bug #1769654), currently in the unapproved queue
[13:44] <oSoMoN> • gnome-software:
[13:44] <oSoMoN>   ∘ updated patch that disables offline updates against master (https://gitlab.gnome.org/oSoMoN/gnome-software/commit/7a8d2df057d7d52a44d51aaa49a3653da2b33048)
[13:45] <oSoMoN> 🌦
[13:45] <jibel> Thanks oSoMoN
[13:45] <seb128> speaking for gnome-software, the current SRU needs to be verified
[13:45] <jibel> #topic robert_ancell
[13:45] <seb128> to unblocked the next one
[13:45] <jibel> sorry go ahead seb128
[13:45] <seb128> well ^
[13:46] <seb128> jibel, heber, maybe you can help with that?
[13:46] <jibel> seb128, sure we'll have a look
[13:46] <seb128> thx
[13:46] <jibel> #topic robert_ancell
[13:46] <jibel> - SRU gnome-control-center fix to 18.04 LTS (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1779051)
[13:46] <jibel> - Diagnosing why gnome-software tests fail on Ubuntu
[13:46] <jibel> - Made packaging update for appstream-glib 0.7.11 - passed to Debian for sponsorship
[13:46] <jibel> - Diagnose why no languages were showing in gnome-control-center (turned out to be https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-desktop/commit/d5d4d7ee7222cba873dddc20b65189e77f9723e2), update cosmic to have that fix.
[13:47] <jibel> - simple-scan 3.29.91 release
[13:47] <jibel> - Attended GNOME Software stakeholders meeting
[13:47] <jibel> - Worked on patch to update design in region settings panel
[13:47] <jibel> - Investigated bugs in region settings panel (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786880, https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786881)
[13:47] <jibel> EOW
[13:47] <jibel> Thanks Robert
[13:47] <jibel> #topic seb128
[13:47] <seb128> • versions script improvements, added a new "blocked version" status, added a columns for comments, cleaned up some deprecated components and tagged some other ones
[13:47] <seb128> • sponsored gnome-disk-utility/file-roller/gnome-initial-setup updates from Andy to Debian
[13:47] <seb128> • updated bolt to 0.4 for cosmic & bionic
[13:47] <seb128> • backport udisks2 fixes for test issues on s390x
[13:47] <seb128> • updated gnome-bluetooth and gtksourceview3 through Debian
[13:47] <seb128> • discussed a bit livepatch/desktop improvements
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[13:48] <jibel> Thank seb128
[13:48] <jibel> #topic tkamppeter
[13:48] <jibel> - Ghostscript: Updated to upstream version 9.23, needed to do several tests to make it  building on ppc64el. But when I had found the solution, I found out that someone else fixed it in parallel.
[13:48] <jibel> - CUPS, cups-filters, HPLIP, Gutenprint: Synced current versions from Debian Unstable and Experimental.
[13:48] <jibel> - cpdb-libs, cpdb-backend-cups: Sent another e-mail to doko to chase after the MIRs.
[13:48] <jibel> - Google Summer of Code 2018: Mentoring of the students on Common Print Dialog Backends and printer auto-selection by job. Worked out the last steps with the students, checked their final reports. Student's final report deadline is today.
[13:48] <jibel> - Bugs.
[13:48] <jibel> done
[13:48] <jibel> Thanks Till
[13:49] <jibel> #topic rls
[13:49] <jibel> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html#
[13:49] <jibel> nothing for desktop
[13:49] <jibel> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html#
[13:49] <Trevinho> jibel: you missed me?
[13:50] <jibel> Trevinho, apparently so, sorry
[13:50] <jibel> lets finish with the rls bugs and go back to you
[13:50] <jibel> only bug 1552792 in the tracking ones, anyone any comment ?
[13:51] <seb128> I talked to Robert about that one
[13:51] <seb128> he has the fix for cosmic and said it needs testing before being SRUed if we want it
[13:51] <seb128> which I guess means "it's on track"
[13:51] <jibel> I can test in cosmic
[13:51] <Laney> that bug should be assigned
[13:52] <Laney> oh it is
[13:52] <jibel> shouldn't it be fixed committed or released in cosmic ?
[13:53] <jibel> nevermind I'll talk to robert for testing in cosmic
[13:53] <Laney> if it is one of those then it should
[13:53] <jibel> anything else on rls bugs ?
[13:54] <jibel> #topic Trevinho
[13:54] <Trevinho> - Off last week, so spent some time for the backlog
[13:54] <Trevinho> - Some rework on g-s crash fix   https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/190
[13:54] <Trevinho> - Preparing new shell landing with yaru and new merge on debian
[13:54] <Trevinho> - Some SRU discussions, got in dock and shell for bionic
[13:54] <Trevinho> - A review and cherry pick on mutter
[13:54] <Trevinho> - Some telegram snap maintainance
[13:54] <Trevinho> - Heading back to Italy this night
[13:54] <Trevinho> 🌃
[13:54] <Laney> what about b?
[13:55] <jibel> Thanks Trevinho
[13:56] <jibel> Laney, what about b? the list of incoming is empty and tracking is very long. http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html#
[13:56] <Laney> well we listed cc-incoming even though it was empty
[13:57] <Laney> and not sure a list being long means it should be skipped
[13:57] <Laney> but 🤷
[13:57] <seb128> we settled on reviewing the unassigned one unless they are fix commited
[13:57] <jibel> Those not fixed in cosmic and in bb should be tagged cc, those fixed in cosmic and worth an SRU tagged bb and anything else removed IMHO
[13:58] <seb128> I'm assigning https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1713581 to marco
[13:59] <Trevinho> that's fixed in c, no? And sru in progress
[13:59] <seb128> right, the bug reflects that now :)
[13:59] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1714178 is for TImo
[14:00] <seb128> kenvandine, can you get https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1742997 assigned?
[14:00] <seb128> oSoMoN commented on it
[14:00] <seb128> but maybe for robert?
[14:00] <kenvandine> i'll look
[14:00] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1769654 is for oSoMoN, just missing the assignment on one component, I'm fixing that
[14:01] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/amd/+bug/1770271 is for Timo
[14:01] <seb128> kenvandine, thx
[14:01] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-menus/+bug/1766890 is for Julian, doing that
[14:02] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1782152 is assigned
[14:02] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libglvnd/+bug/1782285 for Timp
[14:02] <seb128> Timo
[14:02] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1782681 for Marco
[14:02] <seb128> and I think that's it?
[14:02] <seb128> jibel, sorry, I sort of took over for those :p back to you
[14:02] <jibel> seb128, np, it's perfect this way :)
[14:03] <jibel> #topic aob
[14:04] <seb128> (no other topic from me)
[14:04] <jibel> sounds like a nothing, thanks everyone for attending!
[14:04] <jibel> #endmeeting
[14:04] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Aug 14 14:04:21 2018 UTC.
[14:04] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2018/ubuntu-desktop.2018-08-14-13.31.moin.txt
[14:04] <oSoMoN> thanks!
[14:05] <Laney> thx
[14:07] <seb128> thanks!
[14:08] <oSoMoN> jibel, seen bug #1786944 ? that seems to be falling in the upgrade issues bucket
[14:09] <jibel> oSoMoN, no, did you see several occurrences of this bug? It looks like a previous upgrade attempt failed
[14:10] <oSoMoN> jibel, no, only that one instance, didn't look into it further yet
[14:11] <oSoMoN> indeed https://launchpadlibrarian.net/383346905/DpkgHistoryLog.txt shows that all package install operations have failed for the past two weeks
[14:15] <jibel> oSoMoN, this user broke his system by installing an unsupported package maybe ?
[14:16] <oSoMoN> jibel, could be, it's not immediately obvious from the logs though, what kind of info can we request them to add to the bug report?
[14:18] <jibel> oSoMoN, /var/log/apt/term.log from the day the problem started
[14:19] <jibel> and /var/log/apt/history.log from the same time
[14:21] <oSoMoN> ack, will ask that
[14:21] <jibel> oSoMoN, also running "apt-get -f install" is usually enough if the system is not terribly broken
[14:25] <oSoMoN> I suggested that on the bug report, and asked for further logs in case it turns out not to be enough
[14:57] <GunnarHj> Laney: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1786880/comments/3
[14:57] <Laney> GunnarHj: there is a link on that page you linked to that says "Propose for merging"
[14:58] <GunnarHj> Laney: I know, but it complained about the target branch.
[14:58] <Laney> ubuntu/master?
[14:58] <GunnarHj> yes
[14:58] <Laney> oh right, this is the wrong repository
[14:59] <GunnarHj> Laney: ?
[14:59] <Laney> click merge and then repository details
[14:59] <Laney> that is something else
[15:02] <Laney> probably if you pick "other" and type lp:~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center it'll work
[15:02] <GunnarHj> Laney: There I see 103 repositories...
[15:04] <GunnarHj> Laney: Right, that worked.
[15:04] <Laney> Nice
[15:04] <GunnarHj> Laney: LP's git isn't exactly easy to grasp...
[15:05] <Laney> It has this concept of target default repositories
[15:06] <Laney> seems like for some packages they are set to the git-ubuntu things
[15:06] <Laney> I think we could probably get that changed to point to the ubuntu-desktop branch, somehow ...
[15:07] <GunnarHj> Laney: That would have helped me. But I understand now what it was I missed.
[15:08] <Laney> 🤔
[15:13] <Laney> GunnarHj: that 52_... patch is pretty hairy
[15:13] <Laney> is there a path away from needing it that you can see?
[15:16] <GunnarHj> Laney: No easy path. It's part of the 'get rid of l-s' topic, I suppose. And that would make several flavors unhappy...
[15:17] <GunnarHj> Laney: I think we should set up a meeting to talk really talk about the options.
[15:17] <Laney> nod, I think Robert's got the baton on that one at the minute
[15:18] <GunnarHj> Laney: Yeah, his comment on the bug report indicates that. But in this case I think he misunderstood.
[15:19] <Laney> I mean the more general topic
[15:19] <GunnarHj> Ok, I see.
[15:19] <Laney> I feel a bit clueless as to where/why we are different than upstream
[15:20] <Laney> apart from the langpack bits, I get that
[15:20] <Laney> Probably he understands it better...
[15:21] <GunnarHj> Laney: A few months ago I promised to write down the story about it from my perspective. I take this as a reminder. ;)
[15:22] <Laney> :>
[17:13] <willcooke> night all, back in a couple of weeks \o/
[17:14] <Laney> BYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[17:14] <Laney> 2l8?
[17:22] <kenvandine> Will always leaves fast, i don't think he wants us to stop him with one last thing :)
[17:37] <seamlik> hello everyone
[17:38] <seamlik> Recent updates to Cosmic disabled Wayland sessions. With `gnome-session` installed I still can't find any Wayland sessions in the menu during login.
[17:38] <seamlik> Is this intentional?
[17:42] <Laney> No, it's a bug.
[17:42] <Laney> e.g. we have https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gdm/issues/410 at the minute
[17:44] <Laney> nighty night
[17:46] <seamlik> thanks, I see.
[18:26] <oSoMoN> good night all, see you on Thursday
[18:57] <om26er> Is there a Qt 5.9 ppa for Xenial ?
[19:31] <om26er> Mirv: ping
[20:50] <tsimonq2> om26er: Mirv doesn't do much Qt stuff anymore; that'd be me now.
[20:51] <tsimonq2> There isn't a 5.9 PPA for Xenial that I know of at the moment, but UBports might have one.
[20:51] <tsimonq2> Why do you ask?
[20:51] <om26er> tsimonq2: I have a PySide2 app, it requires Qt 5.9 but the one we have in Xenial is 5.5, so it won't start
[20:51] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[20:51] <tsimonq2> Bionic has 5.9.
[20:51] <tsimonq2> Sorry.
[20:52] <om26er> as we speak, I have been trying to re-use kde-frameworks-5 but haven't had much luck
[20:52] <om26er> tsimonq2: yeah but snaps can't be built using core18, so using bionic is not an option
[20:53] <tsimonq2> om26er: I don't do snap stuff; maybe ask a snapcrafter to backport it as a snap.