| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 02:37 |
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| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: Main in same shape as you left it . | 02:43 |
| lotuspsychje | hey Bashing-om | 02:46 |
| Bashing-om | slow all over - not much going on makes for a slow night . | 02:51 |
| tomreyn | so 16.04->18.04 is live since 13 Aug 2018 23:42:29 GMT, hope it goes well. *crosses fingers* | 05:43 |
| lotuspsychje | yess | 05:52 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 06:08 |
| lotuspsychje | hey morning lordievader | 06:08 |
| lotuspsychje | all good on your side lordievader | 06:08 |
| EriC^^ | morning lordievader | 06:09 |
| lordievader | Doing good here. How are you guys? | 06:10 |
| lotuspsychje | i did some rack filling on our new garden house | 06:10 |
| lotuspsychje | making some space in our house | 06:10 |
| === EriC^ is now known as EriC^^ | ||
| === EriC^ is now known as EriC^^ | ||
| lotuspsychje | !in | 12:37 |
| ubot5 | #ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India | 12:37 |
| lotuspsychje | whats the indonesia trigger again | 12:37 |
| daftykins | !id | 12:38 |
| ubot5 | join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia | 12:38 |
| daftykins | i just google "2 letter country code" :) | 12:38 |
| lotuspsychje | ah tnx daftykins | 12:38 |
| daftykins | np :D | 12:38 |
| JimBuntu | !en | 12:41 |
| ubot5 | The main Ubuntu IRC channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList | 12:41 |
| pauljw | hi everyone | 12:57 |
| lordievader | Hey pauljw | 13:04 |
| pauljw | hi lordievader | 13:05 |
| lordievader | How are you doing? | 13:06 |
| pauljw | good here, how about you? | 13:07 |
| lordievader | Doing allright, trying to migrate some databases (that don't want to 😞 ) | 13:08 |
| JimBuntu | ugh, don't we all love DB migrations? | 13:08 |
| pauljw | :) | 13:08 |
| lordievader | Well the good thing is that it is the last MySQL db. After that I can ditch MySQL (or actually MariaDB). | 13:09 |
| lordievader | 🎉 | 13:09 |
| JimBuntu | lordievader, What are you moving to... Mongo/Dynamo/Other? | 13:10 |
| lordievader | Postgres | 13:12 |
| JimBuntu | !bugs | 13:34 |
| ubot5 | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 13:34 |
| daftykins | "we may get to it inside ~5 years" | 13:40 |
| JimBuntu | rawtaz, Hi. I don't work for canonical, nor can I speak for them. I do agree that claiming to be the "leading OS for..." seems to be a bit over the top, without backing up the reasoning. | 15:22 |
| JimBuntu | I can say, it's a very popular distro, but I don't know what metrics show it as being in the lead at the moment. | 15:23 |
| rawtaz | i'll contact ubuntu and see what they say about it :-) | 15:25 |
| JimBuntu | rawtaz, https://www.zdnet.com/article/whats-the-most-popular-linux-of-them-all/ | 15:25 |
| JimBuntu | This article isn't too old and also explains a bit about how it can be difficult to figure out which Linux is in the lead... well.. once you ignore Android. | 15:26 |
| rawtaz | indeed :) | 15:27 |
| rawtaz | which just makes it even more unlikely that there's an actual basis for what theyre stating on that site | 15:27 |
| JimBuntu | While I don't like it, I chalk this up to the same thing so many entities do... #1 bank, #1 hotdog/etc | 15:28 |
| rawtaz | you mean that more or less everyone and their cat's dogs put stuff like this in their marketing? | 15:28 |
| JimBuntu | rawtaz, Well, a whole lot do. That doesn't make it right... and I suppose they can say that it's based on some really skewed survey from once upon a time. | 15:29 |
| rawtaz | yep | 15:29 |
| rawtaz | there's lots of lies and dirty marketing going on | 15:30 |
| leftyfb | rawtaz: or there's not and they just haven't published the data to back it up | 15:41 |
| rawtaz | yep, could be. in that case it should be easy for them to answer :) | 15:46 |
| daftykins | i think you should focus on the more important aspects in life | 15:47 |
| rawtaz | daftykins: indeed. equally much ubuntu should provide a reference to their claim | 15:48 |
| daftykins | no - and please note, ubuntu is the 'product', Canonical is the company | 15:48 |
| rawtaz | daftykins: FWIW im trying to do a release upgrade, and it's just borking things up. cant blame me for not trying to focus on the more important things ;) | 15:48 |
| rawtaz | daftykins: yes, i know | 15:48 |
| daftykins | then why are you using the wrong name? | 15:49 |
| daftykins | oh i can, 'cause you're in here discussing the above :) | 15:49 |
| rawtaz | daftykins: you seem to have a problem with me questioning something which has an extremely high degree of being a statement without a valid basis for it | 15:50 |
| rawtaz | daftykins: sorry for using the wrong name, i should of course write canonical instead | 15:50 |
| hggdh | rawtaz: one of the issues (already sort of mentioned here) is that there is no way to collect reliable data for who uses what distro; the processes used so far are all biased in some way | 15:53 |
| hggdh | (as far as I can see) | 15:53 |
| rawtaz | hggdh: i agree :) | 15:53 |
| rawtaz | hggdh: but if you cannot collect data that can tell you with a reasonable level of certainty that you are the leader, then naturally you should claim to be, right? | 15:53 |
| rawtaz | and if you do have data that reasonably suggests you are, then fine. thats what im going to ask them about | 15:54 |
| rawtaz | ill just mail then and see what they say. perhaps the have a great answer | 15:54 |
| rawtaz | i asked in #ubuntu and the discussion was moved here, that's all | 15:54 |
| hggdh | rawtaz: yes, and good that it moved, this question is not on-topic for #u | 15:55 |
| rawtaz | great | 15:56 |
| rawtaz | i will keep you guys posted about this important matter ;) | 16:07 |
| lotuspsychje | wich matter | 16:08 |
| hggdh | lotuspsychje: what are the basis for the assertion "Ubuntu is the most used Linux distro" | 16:08 |
| rawtaz | lotuspsychje: haha, never mind ;) im trying to establish what metrics .. yeah that ^ | 16:08 |
| lotuspsychje | rawtaz: canonical started recording sysinfo now, in the near future more specific info will rise on that matter | 16:09 |
| lotuspsychje | hey nacc | 16:10 |
| rawtaz | right. thats great. but it'll still be hard to correlate that with them being the leader. it'll be more like "the leader in number of measured usage" :D | 16:10 |
| lotuspsychje | rawtaz: you can never count exact every box in the world right | 16:10 |
| lotuspsychje | rawtaz: we can only count the data we have | 16:11 |
| rawtaz | yeah, youre right | 16:11 |
| lotuspsychje | rawtaz: if 10 guys install gentoo boxes offline, nobody knows of, is +10 popular for gentoo | 16:11 |
| nacc | lotuspsychje: hiya | 16:12 |
| tomreyn | leftyfb: if dnsdns really is in charge for managing the PTRs for this network, then it would turn out internet censorship in iran is not actually intentional. | 16:12 |
| leftyfb | tomreyn: they're not :) | 16:12 |
| tomreyn | i hope so. | 16:13 |
| leftyfb | tomreyn: I used to be authoritative for the 13 ip's I get from my provider, but then they decided one day to not support it anymore. I was kinda silly walking through a "tech" on the phone how to create the PTR record and even sillier asking him to type out this long nonsense record I used as a vhost for IRC for many years :) | 16:14 |
| tomreyn | hehe, on the phone omg | 16:15 |
| leftyfb | yeah, it was dumb | 16:15 |
| leftyfb | I've still got a couple of them setup too | 16:15 |
| tomreyn | "so, sir, you said this new product name of yours i should type here in DNS is spelled H - four - X - X - zero - R - three - D - dot - C - O - M, right?" | 16:18 |
| leftyfb | basically :) | 16:19 |
| daftykins | xD | 16:19 |
| leftyfb | tomreyn: I used to also set these records up for the largest shared hosting company on the planet ... i've done it a few times :) | 16:26 |
| tomreyn | oh you told me about that company, makes sense that you were managing PTRs as well. | 16:28 |
| leftyfb | of course, we did manage it all through a DB. But I did understand the inner workings from doing it on my own. | 16:28 |
| tomreyn | did bind already support a DB backend back then? i think that's relatively new, isnt it? | 17:02 |
| nacc | and the s. hits the f. with l1tf :) | 18:05 |
| leftyfb | tomreyn: we used powerDNS | 18:13 |
| tomreyn | oh, i was thinking this is somewhat young, too | 18:15 |
| tomreyn | ok, powerdns 2.9.1 released late 2003, i guess this can be old enough | 18:18 |
| lotuspsychje | hey pragmaticenigma | 19:16 |
| pragmaticenigma | hello | 19:16 |
| lotuspsychje | !isitoutyet | pragmaticenigma | 19:20 |
| ubot5 | pragmaticenigma: Yes, it's out! Party in #ubuntu-release-party :) | 19:20 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 19:20 |
| pragmaticenigma | umm | 19:20 |
| pragmaticenigma | that was for april :-( | 19:20 |
| pragmaticenigma | !ltsupgrade | 19:20 |
| ubot5 | Upgrades from 16.04 LTS will not be enabled until a few days after the 18.04.1 release expected in late July. | 19:20 |
| pragmaticenigma | that's the one that should be changed | 19:21 |
| lotuspsychje | pragmaticenigma: what would you suggest the factoid says? | 19:23 |
| Bashing-om | pragmaticenigma: Would be nice to have the bot respond with current info : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-August/004556.html . | 19:23 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: tomreyn told us this morning lts path was live | 19:24 |
| nacc | pragmaticenigma: you can suggest it yourself | 19:24 |
| nacc | pragmaticenigma: !ltsupgrade is ... | 19:24 |
| pragmaticenigma | I have no idea what it should say... I'd go with 18.04 LTS Upgrade tool has been released | 19:25 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: If the LTS path is open , we got to pull the UWN article . | 19:25 |
| pragmaticenigma | with a link on how to trigger it | 19:25 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: i would let it stay, its from last night 23h | 19:31 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: next weeks news also comes? | 19:31 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: In my mind that the LTS article will have to be pulled befire next Monday's publishing . | 19:32 |
| Bashing-om | befor* | 19:32 |
| lotuspsychje | pragmaticenigma: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes | 19:49 |
| lotuspsychje | Press Alt+F2 and type update-manager -c into the command box. | 19:49 |
| lotuspsychje | Update Manager should open up and tell you that Ubuntu 18.04 LTS is now available. | 19:49 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: Yup! dfumagalli: " As of now, the upgrade path is officially available. No need to add "-d" or other tricks any more. I am upgrading to 18.04.01 right now." . | 19:50 |
| lotuspsychje | !yay | 19:50 |
| ubot5 | Glad you made it! :-) | 19:50 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: discuss the article with the news team right, not my decide :p | 19:50 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: UWN: All commnents, suggestions, critique & other stuff ... always welcomed ! | 19:53 |
| lotuspsychje | ok mate | 19:53 |
| lotuspsychje | i would wait a week for lts path | 19:53 |
| lotuspsychje | more users, more help, newer news :p | 19:54 |
| lotuspsychje | they just started low today | 19:54 |
| lotuspsychje | https://askubuntu.com/questions/1063954/ubuntu-18-04-1-lts-very-very-slow-boot | 19:55 |
| lotuspsychje | bit like my systemd bug.. | 19:55 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: We work alla the week long gathering what we can .. come Friday we do the write ups .. Sunday eve make up the wiki .. and Monday eve - hope all is squared away - and we publish what we have . | 19:56 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah | 19:56 |
| lotuspsychje | nite nite guys | 20:05 |
| lotuspsychje | cu another timezone | 20:05 |
| nacc | i'm assuming we should send l1tf discussion to #ubuntu-hardened, right? | 20:05 |
| pragmaticenigma | here we go again... why do they think it's appropriate for a lyrics bot | 20:10 |
| nacc | i've notified ops manually as well | 20:10 |
| pragmaticenigma | is it that hard to make one's own room to play with that stuff? | 20:11 |
| nacc | dunno | 20:11 |
| hggdh | nacc: welcome to the whackamole game :-) | 20:12 |
| nacc | hggdh: lol | 20:12 |
| nacc | hggdh: has this one been going on long? | 20:13 |
| pragmaticenigma | not very hard to make your own room | 20:13 |
| hggdh | a few weeks, mostly off, one week mostly on | 20:13 |
| pragmaticenigma | hggdh: are there honey pot rooms that might help? | 20:13 |
| hggdh | pragmaticenigma: not really. This is the rickrolling person | 20:14 |
| pragmaticenigma | oh no... now tomreyn has turned into one :-(... sad sad day | 20:14 |
| hggdh | we do have a few channels wide open, but mostly so we can have a feeling on how things are going | 20:15 |
| pragmaticenigma | this beeing at the freenode level? | 20:15 |
| leftyfb | nacc: alee is a troll/spammer | 20:59 |
| leftyfb | nacc: it's the "despacito" troll from earlier | 20:59 |
| nacc | leftyfb: thanks | 21:00 |
| nacc | oh good lord, just kick them hggdh :) | 21:04 |
| hggdh | until I am convinced he is the musicguy aka steel aka stove etc, no, cannot | 21:05 |
| el | would you prefer this nonsense or the lyricsbot. if we kick him he'll bring back the lyricsbot | 21:05 |
| nacc | lol | 21:06 |
| nacc | hggdh: i was mostly joking, sorry was in poor taste | 21:06 |
| el | although i'm fairly sure what's about to happen is the lyricsbot | 21:06 |
| nacc | lol | 21:07 |
| hggdh | so am I. But... innocent until lyrics, and so on | 21:08 |
| daftykins | was it a good song at least? | 21:08 |
| el | the "bot"'s options are despacito, rickroll and something dre. so no. | 21:09 |
| hggdh | daftykins: not my genres for sure | 21:09 |
| el | i'm also fairly sure the "bot" is just him pasting into a second client that has ratelimiting to prevent getting banned for flooding | 21:11 |
| leftyfb | curious how far he's going to take this | 21:14 |
| leftyfb | shocker: "<alee> Guys, i dont have any problems, it was a prank" | 21:16 |
| hggdh | now | 21:17 |
| el | shocking he just got k-lined for harassment | 21:17 |
| hggdh | elsewhere? | 21:18 |
| hggdh | just when I was going to act... | 21:19 |
| el | hggdh: yep. i was ignoring it until he decided to throw in wasting project time | 21:20 |
| el | hggdh: you can get him next time, i gotta go dentist now | 21:23 |
| hggdh | :-) | 21:26 |
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