[00:00] <lilkuz2005> jerichowasahoax, you can check out a program called Autof  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs
[00:04] <tomreyn> jerichowasahoax: do you have _netdev in mount options?
[00:05] <jerichowasahoax> tomreyn: no, should i?
[00:05] <tomreyn> alternatively, or additionally, x-systemd.after=network-online.target
[00:05] <tomreyn> jerichowasahoax: if you want it reliably mounted at boot, i think so
[00:05] <jerichowasahoax> ooo, telling systemd about dependencies seems smarter
[00:06] <jerichowasahoax> because it does also need to wait for a vlan to come up but i figured it would retry a couple times
[00:07] <smrtz> Hey guys!  I've got a laptop without an ethernet port that uses an RTL8821CE network chipset. I'm trying to find the software I need so I can copy it over with a jumpdrive to install it, but I can't find it online.
[00:09] <smrtz> I've found https://github.com/endlessm/linux/tree/master/drivers/net/wireless/rtl8821ce, but I really don't want to have to copy all the packages required to build it via a jump drive.  Is there a prebuilt copy somewhere?
[00:10] <jerichowasahoax> smrtz: it shouldn't require more than build-essential
[00:11] <smrtz> jerichowasahoax: Alright, I'll try grabbing that and that repo.
[00:12] <smrtz> It looks like that repo is a full kernel, do you think I should be able to just make the makefile in that directory and install it?
[00:13] <jerichowasahoax> smrtz: building custom kernels is considered "hard mode", meaning support could get spottier for you
[00:13] <jerichowasahoax> smrtz: but it's not as hard as it looks ;-) you up to it?
[00:13] <smrtz> jerichowasahoax: Yeah, which is why I'd like to avoid it and just build the kernel module(?) if possible?
[00:13] <smrtz> Yeah, I've done it before, but, I have a feeling I'll be in dependency hell.
[00:14] <jerichowasahoax> it might be but i haven't really done that kind of thing before
[00:15] <jerichowasahoax> i've got an rtl8812au, and my module ended up being its own separate repo that just mooches off existing kernel sources
[00:15] <jerichowasahoax> so as far as rtl88* pains go, it looks like i got off easy
[00:15] <tomreyn> smrtz: do you not happen to have another way to get the computer online temporarily? like a usb wireless 'dongle' or a smartphone hich can do usb tethering?
[00:15] <smrtz> tomreyn: Nope, just this.
[00:16] <smrtz> jerichowasahoax: Lucky.
[00:17] <coz_> hey guys
[00:18] <smrtz> Hola coz_
[00:18] <coz_> smrtz, hey guy
[00:19] <texla> ubuntu 18.04.1..Updates failed to download repository information..check your internet connection..info from repository.https://pastebin.com/h3fTV1WS
[00:20] <tomreyn> texla: what does "date -u" return?
[00:24] <texla> tomreyn, Mon Aug 13 19:23:26 UTC 2018
[00:25] <tomreyn> texla: now without -u, and then compare it to your wall clock
[00:26] <tomreyn> -u is universal time coordinated (UTC), valid world-wide, and this is currently 00:25, not 19:25
[00:26] <texla> tomreyn, Mon Aug 13 14:25:23 CDT 2018
[00:26] <texla> .I show 2:23 pm
[00:27] <tomreyn> so something is wrong with your time settings. a common problem is running windows and linux on the same computer. windows will set your hardware clock to local time, when linux expects it to be UTC.
[00:28] <texla> tomreyn, The time on my screen is incorrect it is actually 7:34 pm will correct
[00:29] <tomreyn> texla: just why did it happen in the first place? do you multi boot?
[00:30] <smrtz> Currently on my third round of dependencies trying to just get libc6-dev installed.... is build-essential and it's dependencies on the live ISO?
[00:30] <smrtz> I can install packages from there if I remember correctly?
[00:30] <texla> tomreyn, I have 3 o/s on the internal hdd and 2 o/s on the external usb enclosure with sata hdd
[00:31] <tomreyn> okay, if some set HW clock to utc, oithers to local time, that's a nice mess for sure.
[00:31] <tomreyn> you'll need to make them all do one or the other.
[00:32] <texla> tomreyn, Okay I normally use local time but will check and reset all
[00:33] <tomreyn> texla: timedatectl --help to get started with this on ubuntu, but i suggest you better make them all do what ubuntu already does: set hardware clock to UTC
[00:33] <smrtz> jerichowasahoax: Do you know if I can add a Live USB as a source?
[00:34] <jerichowasahoax> smrtz: you can, but i don't know if build-essential is in there
[00:34] <smrtz> Hmm.
[00:34] <guiverc> smrtz, to my knowledge build-essentials are not on live iso, most users aren't developers
[00:35] <smrtz> Yeah, I can't find the .dep within the CD...
[00:36] <tomreyn> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man8/apt-offline.8.html
[00:36] <smrtz> But some of the dependencies for it might be on the live CD.
[00:36] <smrtz> So it's worth mounting.
[00:37] <smrtz> tomreyn: thanks.
[00:38] <tomreyn> :)
[00:40] <texla> tomreyn, Reset time on Ubuntu and recieved current updates ..Thanks for the help
[00:43] <smrtz> copying the ISO to the computer to use with apt-cdrom
[00:44] <tomreyn> welcome texla
[00:58] <sonicwind> tomreyn, why did texla get that specific error message though?  Updates failed to download repository information..check your internet connection
[00:59] <sonicwind> if its a time issue
[01:03] <tomreyn> sonicwind: i think this is a follow-up error, and error message, where apt realizes that some repository information could not be updated, or could not be used. it ignores this possible cause and just discusses the other possible cause which is network connectivity issues.
[01:04] <tomreyn> sonicwind: it would probably be good to improve this error message to cover the time mismatch issue, too. but then the other messages about 'not valid, yet' are quite specific as to the root cause.
[01:04] <sonicwind> yeah, I'd have never thought of a time issue
[01:05] <sonicwind> this interests me because I will soon be using both Win 10 and Ubuntu again
[01:06] <tomreyn> sonicwind: there's some registry key you can set on windows to make it behave as everything else *there* at least
[01:06] <sonicwind> yeah but I'd rather have it always as local... I always set Ubuntu to local (Chicago)
[01:06] <sonicwind> so does texla have to do this every time he's gonna switch between OS?
[01:10] <sonicwind> maybe setting "Automatic Time Zone" in Gnome would help with this
[01:11] <tomreyn> sonicwind: i think you're mixing up having the OS know what the local time zone is and presenting the time to the user accordingly, and updating the hardware clock to either UTC or the local timezone. the later is what this is about.
[01:11] <sonicwind> ok
[01:12] <tomreyn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Multiple_Boot_Systems_Time_Conflicts
[01:12] <sonicwind> thanks... will read this
[01:17] <polep> dear all, how to fix error phpmyadmin with php7 on ubuntu..?
[01:17] <polep> anyone wants to help?
[01:18] <lbrady03> hello
[01:19] <polep> hello
[01:19] <lbrady03> what's everyone up to
[01:21] <sonicwind> tomreyn, I get it now. Thanks :-)
[01:25] <tomreyn> welcome
[01:25] <tomreyn> polep: which ubuntu version, what is the actual issue?
[01:28] <Lee1026-thinkpad> hi
[01:30] <test12324351> hello world!!!
[01:30] <Lee1026-thinkpad> yes! hello world!
[01:30] <tomreyn> test12324351: this is not the right lace to test
[01:30] <tomreyn> *place
[01:31] <tomreyn> test12324351: but if you have any ubuntu support questions, you're welcome. ;-)
[01:32] <test12324351> thank you!!
[01:36] <Warfront1> I already have a number stored in a variable: var=1 . How would I then use that variable as my exit code?
[01:37] <Warfront1> bash ^
[01:43] <smrtz> Help, so, many dependencies...
[01:44] <tomreyn> Warfront1: exit $var
[01:51] <Lee1026-thinkpad> msg alis LIST *linux*
[02:03] <UbuntuNetwork> does updating the kernel provide better driver support
[02:04] <tomreyn> UbuntuNetwork: it may. usually just for new / recent hardwre, though. ubuntu provides HWE kernels for this prupose.
[02:04] <tomreyn> !hwe | UbuntuNetwork
[02:04] <H31337> tomreyn: Error: "hwe" is not a valid command.
[02:05] <UbuntuNetwork> im wating for ubuntu 18.10 that comes with linux kernel 5.0 maybe that will have updated settings and drivers
[02:06] <UbuntuNetwork> my wifi works just has low signal and disconnects now and then
[02:07] <tomreyn> UbuntuNetwork: you'd better find out which chipset you have and see what options you have now.
[02:09] <DalekSec> Helenah: Please do not bring your bots into the Ubuntu channels, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines#line-51
[02:10] <ALowther_> Has anybody else had openvpn connectivty issues since upgrading to 18.04?
[02:28] <neoncontrails> How can I check which files are being sourced by my environment? I'm trying to figure out how the $SHELL variable is getting set to /usr/bin/zsh, regardless of environment
[02:44] <k_sze[work]> Has anybody successfully updated Ubuntu in Windows 10's WSL?
[02:45] <k_sze[work]> There are 3 versions in the Windows Store. I'm talking about the one that is not pegged to a major release (the one that's called just "Ubuntu")
[02:46] <k_sze[work]> I'm trying to upgrade it from Xenial to Bionic by running `sudo do-release-upgrade` because that's supposed to be the supported way, according to the description in Windows Store.
[02:47] <k_sze[work]> But it seems to get stuck at "Starting Container hypervisor based on LXC: lxd."
[02:59] <arunkumar413> is there a tool to recover sms from an android phone
[02:59] <quarters> hello. I installed pulseaudio and configured it to handle my alsa but now all my audio is distorted and muffled. I was wondering how to fix this
[03:19] <Sepulther> hello, anyone on that can help with apache and wordpress setup?
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[03:49] <k_sze[work]> Is `do-release-upgrade` supposed to automatically update the sources in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[03:55] <Citizen-Se7en> k_sze[work]: It should.  Also, any third-party PPAs you have setup there are normally disabled during the upgrade process.
[03:56] <k_sze[work]> Then it looks like there are still quite a few things to iron out about Ubuntu in WSL.
[03:56] <k_sze[work]> do-release-upgrade doesn't work quite as smoothly as it should.
[03:57] <Sepulther> anyeone here willing to help with apache LAMP wordpress install issues?
[03:57] <Citizen-Se7en> k_sze[work]: That's why I opt to do a clean install instead, formatting my / (my /home is on it's own partition and left untouched)
[04:05] <xar-> Sepulther: it's better if you ask the real question that's got you snagged, what _about_ your setup isn't working
[04:06] <k_sze[work]> Citizen-Se7en: you do that in WSL?
[04:09] <Citizen-Se7en> WSL?  Define.
[04:09] <k_sze[work]> Windows Subsystem for Linux.
[04:10] <Citizen-Se7en> I've never actually tried that.
[04:18] <Valen> it seems pretty good really
[04:18] <Valen> with the addition of xming it got virt-manager running on windows with a minimum of fuss
[04:29] <babaoo> nickname babaoo
[04:29] <babaoo> connect
[04:29] <babaoo> hello
[04:29] <Mark78> hi
[04:30] <babaoo> how to mount external hard disk
[04:49] <xar-> babaoo: I'm assuming you've already googled the question, what went wrong?
[05:22] <IRC-Source_1256> Does github automatically generate hashes for releases? End user here
[05:23] <keekeenige> hey all im trying to transfer files from my ubuntu system to virualbox
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[05:46] <Guest64529> Good Morning!
[05:52] <keekeenige> hey guys i get this error when i try to view ....windows 10 iso or game isos
[05:52] <keekeenige> Failed to read volume info: 'First volume descriptor type not primary like ISO9660 requires'
[05:52] <keekeenige> anyone know what i can do it fix this so i can view the iso
[05:56] <Guest64529> i try this windows?
[05:56] <Guest64529> Desktop
[06:08] <ChaiTRex> keekeenige: View the ISO how?
[06:14] <EriC^^> keekeenige: how are mounting it?
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[06:42] <yao_ziyuan> i use ubuntu 18.04.01 and 3 hours ago i suspended my desktop pc and went to a restaurant for lunch. when i came back just now, the system had restarted. i'm a political dissident in china. which system log file should i look into to find out what happened?
[06:49] <hateball> yao_ziyuan: if the system didnt crash before it managed to log anything, you might find some information using 'journalctl'
[06:50] <hateball> yao_ziyuan: for instance this should give you a quite verbose log of the previous boot: journalctl -x --boot=-1 -p1..4
[06:52] <marus33> hej
[06:54] <airwind> are there any decent ARM laptops out there that run Ubuntu?
[06:55] <yao_ziyuan> last reboot | less says:
[06:55] <yao_ziyuan> reboot   system boot  4.15.0-30-generi Fri Aug 10 00:44   still running
[06:55] <yao_ziyuan> reboot   system boot  4.15.0-29-generi Wed Aug  1 22:42 - 00:44 (8+02:02)
[06:55] <yao_ziyuan> wtmp begins Wed Aug  1 22:42:01 2018
[06:55] <yao_ziyuan> (END)
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[06:57] <yao_ziyuan> so last reboot was at Aug 10 00:44
[06:58] <yao_ziyuan> so my computer didn't restart when i was out for lunch.
[06:58] <yao_ziyuan> maybe it's the x server that just restarted.
[07:32] <Guest54348> \q
[07:33] <Guest54348> \q
[07:33] <Guest54348> exit
[07:37] <keekeenige> hey all i have installed netbootin on ubuntu
[07:37] <keekeenige> when i open it ...it comes up with a blank screen
[07:37] <keekeenige> and help would be great with this prob
[07:42] <keekeenige> anyway i can send a screen shot
[07:45] <keekeenige> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unetbootin/+bug/1620628
[07:45] <keekeenige> thats the prob i have
[07:45] <keekeenige> i just dont know what to do ...to resovle it
[07:46] <keekeenige> im only new to ubuntu
[07:46] <keekeenige> so im not sure what there asking me to do
[07:47] <keekeenige> oh ..you have to type this
[07:47] <keekeenige> sudo QT_X11_NO_MITSHM=1 unetbootin
[07:47] <keekeenige> ok thank you problem sovled ...
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[07:48] <keekeenige> lol
[07:48] <keekeenige> oh wow
[07:48] <keekeenige> havnt seen goatese for yrs lol
[07:49] <ibr2> I need help with something not technical, like suggesting ideas for a final year project in cybersecurity and forensics as well.
[08:05] <joeyn> Hello everyone! I was having problems with my wifi, but i downloaded an iwlwifi.ucode and put it to /lib/firmware. Right now, my wifi is working better but it is still erratic at times. May i check if there is a driver that i am missing?
[08:06] <joeyn> I am using Intel Wireless 7260 network card
[08:07] <Zexaron> Hello
[08:08] <Zexaron> Does the LIVE version of Ubuntu have access to all the preinstalled apps/utilities that the installed version has, is it possible to force that with a custom ISO? Second, is it possible to force to RAM, so the USB media is removable?
[08:09] <EriC^> Zexaron: there's a "toram" kernel parameter, might be helpful
[08:12] <Lope> can someone please recommend a linux open source time-tracker? (providing functionality like toggl.com)
[08:15] <JBzh> Hi. I usually use /opt/cimut (cimut beeing the name of my company) to store scripts and other files on servers. For a Ubuntu desktop, to store company's logo, some wallpapers, and other graphical files, /usr/share/cimut/images/ seem to be the right place ? If I understand correctly the FHS
[08:17] <hadifarnoud> there is a script that backs up my database. I just don't remember where I put it or what is it called. it might be a bash script or a php script. if we assume it is a bash script, how can I look in all the places a script can be scheduled to run every day? (I did look in crontab, was not there)
[08:19] <bugzbunny20> I am not bugzbunny20?
[08:19] <bugzbunny20> Why when I leave my Nick name changes
[08:19] <Lope> ubuntu 18.04 apt-cache search offers me "ktimetracker and timewarrior" will try them.
[08:20] <bugzbunny20> Well whatever
[08:27] <EriC^^> hadifarnoud: it could be in a user's crontab /var/spool/crontab , /etc/rc.local , a systemd service
[08:28] <geirha> or /etc/cron.daily/
[08:30] <EriC^^> hadifarnoud: ^
[08:30] <hadifarnoud> thanks
[08:36] <orheo> hello
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[09:02] <escanor> Hello All, I am unable to perform ping operation in ubuntu 18.04
[09:04] <blackflow> escanor: can you be more specific? is it a VM?
[09:05] <escanor> blackflow: VM??
[09:05] <blackflow> a virtual machine
[09:05] <escanor> Oops Nope
[09:05] <escanor> base machine
[09:05] <blackflow> escanor: so what's the error then?
[09:06] <escanor> Nothing happens when i do ping www.google.com or ping gateway
[09:06] <blackflow> escanor: it just returns, or sits there like waiting for something?
[09:07] <ricardofaria> ah
[09:07] <blackflow> escanor: if latter, do you have problems with dns resolving? can you ping by IP?   `ping -c2 8.8.8.8`     for example
[09:07] <escanor> blackflow: waiting for something
[09:07] <escanor> sure here is output of the routing table
[09:07] <escanor> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YmpJ2XBcgv/
[09:08] <blackflow> escanor: that has nothing to do with DNS :)
[09:08] <escanor> ohk
[09:08] <blackflow> escanor: can you ping by ip?
[09:08] <escanor> Destination host unreachable
[09:09] <blackflow> escanor: what about   ping 192.168.1.1   ?
[09:09] <blackflow> I'm guessing that's gateway
[09:09] <escanor> blackflow: Same host unreachable
[09:10] <blackflow> escanor: and if you disable wifi?
[09:15] <escanor> blackflow: Actually i am trying to establish connection between two pc(ubuntu) and windows machine
[09:15] <escanor> When i connect the lan cable my wifi stops working
[09:16] <blackflow> escanor: well, one step at a time. that routing table you posted suggest you have both ethernet and wifi in the same subnet, so possibly conflicting.
[09:16] <dnivra> Hello everyone! I had an installation of 16.04 and I was installing 18.04.1 using a bootable USB without formatting / so that home's contents remain intact. Everything went fine until the grub installation failed because it attempted UEFI installation but I was using legacy earlier. So I created a 200MB FAT32 bootable partition, ran install again and then ran boot repair. Boot repair said repair was successful but when I try to boot the disk, it says
[09:16] <dnivra> failed to mount /dev/sda1(the EFI partition): bad superblock. Could someone help fix this issue?
[09:16] <blackflow> escanor: please pastebin the output of      ip addr show       and      ip route show         don't use netstat, it's deprecated and doesn't support all the functionality needed nowadays
[09:16] <escanor> blackflow: how can i solve this issue
[09:17] <escanor> ok
[09:18] <EriC^^> dnivra: can you boot a live usb right now?
[09:19] <dnivra> yes a live usb is now booted and running
[09:20] <EriC^^> dnivra: type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:22] <dnivra> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/2l3e
[09:22] <j0seph> Hi all. I've installed Ubuntu 18.04 (Kernel 4.15). I wanted to remove ubuntu-session and replace it with the default vanilla gnome-session. gnome-session installs and runs fine, but as soon as I remove ubuntu-session, gnome-session no longer works: Trying to log into it causes a login loop (tested GDM3 and LightDM). The only way in which I can use the vanilla gnome-session is if ubuntu-session is also installed, even if I have all of the
[09:22] <j0seph> dependencies of ubuntu-session installed. Is there any way I could remove ubuntu-session while being able to log into gnome-session?
[09:23] <escanor> blackflow: Sorry for late reply please find the output of the command:https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Mtt7pmCb7j/
[09:23] <EriC^^> dnivra: sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[09:24] <dnivra> EriC^^: done mounting.
[09:24] <EriC^^> dnivra: "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i;done"
[09:26] <blackflow> escanor: that looks more or less fine, but if it doesn't work, there's probably a conflict. use either cable or wifi, in that network, dont' use both. for example, that route shows default goes over wifi, so the cable has no use except for LAN access due to that metric
[09:27] <dnivra> EriC^^: done mounting
[09:28] <escanor> blackflow: Yup i need to use the lan cable as normal lan setting it up as different network
[09:28] <EriC^^> dnivra: sudo chroot /mnt
[09:28] <escanor> But when i do so the internet stops working
[09:29] <dnivra> EriC^^: chrooted into /mnt.
[09:29] <EriC^^> dnivra: mount -a
[09:29] <blackflow> escanor: right so use one or the other. they're both in the same subnet, so why do you need the cable specifically?
[09:29] <dnivra> EriC^^: done
[09:30] <EriC^^> dnivra: "cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:30] <dnivra> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/ktjf
[09:31] <EriC^^> dnivra: hmm does sda1 show mounted under /boot/efi in "lsblk" output?
[09:32] <escanor> blackflow: will changing subnet resolve issue
[09:32] <dnivra> EriC^^: Yes I think it does. I see a line "├─sda1   8:1    0   200M  0 part /boot/efi". Full output of lsblk: http://termbin.com/i201
[09:32] <EriC^^> dnivra: is this the only hdd attached to the pc when you're trying to boot?
[09:32] <blackflow> escanor: possibly.
[09:33] <dnivra> EriC^^: Yes this is the only HDD I have. I remove the live USB and no other USB is attached when booting.
[09:33] <EriC^^> dnivra: ok, let's try to format the efi partition again in case it helps
[09:33] <EriC^^> dnivra: umount /boot/efi
[09:34] <EriC^^> dnivra: mkfs.fat /dev/sda1
[09:34] <dnivra> EriC^^: sure. I should umount and mkfs.fat from within chroot right?
[09:34] <escanor> blackflow: please correct my understanding if wrong: Subnet divides network logically into diff network. Here I have same ip range for lan and wifi. If i change the subnet mask so probably it will resolve the conflict
[09:34] <EriC^^> dnivra: get the new uuid from "blkid /dev/sda1" and replace it in the last line in /etc/fstab
[09:35] <EriC^^> dnivra: yes
[09:35] <blackflow> escanor: no. your router has to designate different subnets/vlans.
[09:36] <dnivra> EriC^^: done formatting and replacing the UUID in fstab.
[09:36] <EriC^^> dnivra: great, "mount /boot/efi" then "dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:37] <EriC^^> dnivra: please also run "ls /sys/firmware/efi" and confirm that you get a bunch of dirs back
[09:37] <dnivra> EriC^^: The ls lists a bunch of files and 3 folders - efivars, runtime-map and vars.
[09:38] <EriC^^> ok, great
[09:38] <dnivra> EriC^^: Output of dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999 - http://termbin.com/xg77
[09:39] <EriC^^> dnivra: apt-get purge grub-pc grub-pc-bin
[09:40] <EriC^^> dnivra: also apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed
[09:40] <dnivra> EriC^^: The grub-pc purge says it's going to remove "grub-gfxpayload-lists* grub-pc* grub-pc-bin*" and install grub-efi-amd64. Shall I continue?
[09:40] <EriC^^> dnivra: yes
[09:41] <escanor> blackflow: ok thanks
[09:42] <escanor> blackflow: So i should remove lan and try to estblish connection using the wlan
[09:42] <dnivra> EriC^^: okay it's attempting to retrieve stuff from the CDROM. I commented out the CDROM line from sources.list and ran apt-get update. Waiting for update to complete.
[09:43] <EriC^^> dnivra: kind of odd but ok
[09:43] <EriC^^> dnivra: this is from inside the chroot, right?
[09:43] <blackflow> escanor: either one or the other, as a first step to see if everything works okay like that.
[09:44] <dnivra> EriC^^: Yes from within the chroot. I think the install didn't complete and so the CDROM sources line was probably not removed from the sources.list?
[09:44] <escanor> blackflow: ok thanks a lot :)
[09:44] <EriC^^> dnivra: yeah maybe that's it
[09:47] <dnivra> EriC^^: Done purging and reinstalling grub-efi-amd64-signed
[09:48] <dnivra> I got a display from grub-pc seeking confirmation to all grub2 files being deleted. I answered yes.
[09:48] <EriC^^> dnivra: great, just for bad uefi implementation's sake, run "mkdir -p /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot /boot/efi/efi/boot"
[09:48] <EriC^^> dnivra: then "cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi"
[09:49] <EriC^^> dnivra: as well as "cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/boot/bootx64.efi"
[09:49] <EriC^^> dnivra: and finally "cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot"
[09:49] <dnivra> EriC^^: There's no directory "/boot/efi/efi/ubuntu"
[09:50] <EriC^^> dnivra: is there a /boot/efi/efi/grub dir?
[09:51] <dnivra> EriC^^: /boot/efi/efi has only dirs - boot and microsoft/boot. No files
[09:51] <EriC^^> dnivra: aha, try "grub-install && update-grub"
[09:53] <dnivra> EriC^^: okay. grub-install printed out a few "GUID Partition Table Header signature is wrong" messages but finally says "Installation finished. No error reported." Are those signature is incorrect messages important?
[09:55] <EriC^^> dnivra: no i think it just expects a GPT partition table and is saying their wrong cause you have msdos partition table
[09:55] <EriC^^> it should still work though, linux doesn't mind msdos + uefi
[09:55] <EriC^^> dnivra: has /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu become populated?
[09:56] <EriC^^> also can you please run "dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999" once more?
[09:56] <dnivra> EriC^^: /boot/efi/efi/grub has grubx64.efi in it. Is that sufficient?
[09:57] <EriC^^> yeah that's ok, there's been a bug lately about that, can you run "ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999" ?
[09:58] <zerobaud> I want to compile a program that depends on "libbsd" I installed libbsd-dev but it does not provide vis.h, the header file interface to the function my program needs in libbsd. How do I install the header file "vis.h" on debian?
[09:58] <EriC^^> !find vis.h
[09:58] <dnivra> EriC^^: Ah okay. Here's output of ls command: http://termbin.com/dhez and output of the dpkg -l command: http://termbin.com/vx1f
[09:58] <EriC^^> zerobaud: try "apt-file" "apt-file search vis.h"
[09:59] <zerobaud> EriC^^: will do that, thanks!
[10:00] <EriC^^> dnivra: it looks good, also they seem to have fixed the bug too
[10:00] <EriC^^> dnivra: try rebooting
[10:00] <EriC^^> zerobaud: no problem
[10:00] <zerobaud> EriC^^: one of the listed packages "libbsd-dev: /usr/include/bsd/vis.h" is already installed, I will try freebsd-glue as well..
[10:01] <zerobaud> actually thats the wrong vis.h (from freebsd), I need the one of libbsd-dev
[10:01] <dnivra> EriC^^: Goes straight to grub command line.
[10:01] <EriC^^> zerobaud: maybe you need to point the compiler to it, try joining and asking in #debian as they know more than here :)
[10:02] <zerobaud> EriC^^: will try, thanks!
[10:02] <EriC^^> dnivra: ok, that sounds like the bug it had before
[10:02] <^Phantom^0>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[10:02] <EriC^^> dnivra: type "echo $prefix"
[10:02] <EriC^^> zerobaud: yw :)
[10:03] <dnivra> EriC^^: (hd0,msdos1)/EFI/ubuntu. I guess we need to change some bios or grub settings?
[10:03] <viran> Hey, is it possible to bind a python script to a specific network interface ?
[10:04] <EriC^^> dnivra: yeah, exactly
[10:04] <EriC^^> dnivra: type "configfile (hd0,msdos2)/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[10:07] <dnivra> EriC^^: that showed a pretty weird grub display with blue colours. Booted the top entry "GNU/Linux" and I ran into same error that /boot/efi - wrong fs type, bad superblock, bad option etc
[10:08] <TJ-> Got a weird issue with a debootstrap-ed 18.04 LUKS install - in the chroot GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y is being recognised but ignored by both grub-install and update-grub! Any ideas!?
[10:08] <akkonrad> when I have  a global variable, can I call it from bash script?
[10:09] <TJ-> akkonrad: you can reference it from a sub-shell *if* it was EXPORTed
[10:11] <EriC^^> dnivra: odd, try booting the live usb again
[10:11] <wendico> Hello there. i have ubuntu 18 and installed network tools, ifconfig shows my netwoks with names: en eno1, enp2s0. is it normal?
[10:11] <wendico> im used to the eth0, eth1
[10:12] <EriC^^> dnivra: when it boots, type "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" then "cat /mnt/efi/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:15] <dnivra> EriC^^: Contents of efi/grub/grug.cfg in the EFI partition - http://termbin.com/6az5
[10:19] <EriC^^> dnivra: ok, type "sudo mkdir /mnt/efi/ubuntu"
[10:19] <EriC^^> dnivra: then type "sudo cp /mnt/efi/grub/* /mnt/efi/ubuntu"
[10:19] <dnivra> EriC^^: Done creating folder and copying the files.
[10:20] <EriC^^> dnivra: ok, let's try removing the efi from the fstab just to see what happens, run "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /cdrom"
[10:20] <EriC^^> then edit /cdrom/etc/fstab and comment out the line with /boot/efi
[10:23] <dnivra> EriC^^: Okay so fstab in /dev/sda2 will have details of only 2 partitions: swap and / right? (Also - /cdrom is already in use by live USB; used a different mount point)
[10:23] <EriC^^> dnivra: yes, correct, alright
[10:24] <EriC^^> try rebooting
[10:27] <dnivra> EriC^^: Success it works now!
[10:27] <dnivra> Logged in and things seem to be okay.
[10:28] <EriC^^> dnivra: great
[10:29] <EriC^^> dnivra: can you run "sudo blkid | nc termbin.com"
[10:29] <EriC^^> sorry
[10:29] <EriC^^> dnivra: can you run "sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:29] <EriC^^> dnivra: as well as "hexdump -C /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:30] <gt8ost4l> can anybody help me im on ubuntu 18.04 and my wireless card AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter
[10:30] <gt8ost4l>  keeps disconnecting i read that my driver r8169 is very buggy can anybody hedlp me?
[10:30] <gt8ost4l> help*
[10:31] <TJ-> EriC^^: have you ever seen grub-install/update-grub ignore GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y  (18.04) ?
[10:31] <SimonNL> might be a good idea asking that in #linux-wireless gt8ost4l
[10:32] <gt8ost4l> SimonNL, let me guess another refference
[10:32] <dnivra> EriC^^: blkid output is http://termbin.com/digz and hexdump of fstab is http://termbin.com/jaor
[10:32] <TJ-> gt8ost4l: isn't the AR9485 by Atheros, not Realtek ?
[10:32] <gt8ost4l> TJ-, yes
[10:32] <EriC^^> TJ-: nope
[10:33] <EriC^^> TJ-: maybe they fixed that bug thing and now it's =1 intead of =y ?
[10:33] <TJ-> gt8ost4l: use "lspci -nnk" to show which driver the device is using, to be sure if it is the r8169
[10:33] <TJ-> EriC^^: I look in the source and it looks to be correct. Weird how I've never hit it until now!
[10:34] <gt8ost4l> TJ-,  which one it shows many
[10:34] <TJ-> gt8ost4l: show us "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk )"
[10:35] <EriC^^> dnivra: no weird characters, i wonder why it wont mount it
[10:35] <ahcr007> hi
[10:36] <gt8ost4l> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wcK4PpbmkJ/
[10:37] <EriC^^> dnivra: try creating a fresh line there in case i missed something, this is what i have for my 16.04 install, "UUID=0A87-44C2  /boot/efi       vfat    umask=0077      0       1"
[10:39] <TJ-> gt8ost4l: the AR9485 is using the ath9k driver; the wired ethernet is using the r8169
[10:40] <dnivra> EriC^^: I added the line again you shared just now(changed UUID), rebooted. I encounter the same problem - it's not able to mount /dev/sda1 to /boot/efi.
[10:40] <gt8ost4l> TJ-, yes what else
[10:41] <TJ-> gt8ost4l: is it the wireless that drops out? I'd first check the frequency band see if it is interference from other APs
[10:42] <dnivra> EriC^^: But it works without that line so I guess it's probably not required?
[10:42] <gt8ost4l> TJ-, how do i check that out
[10:42] <EriC^^> dnivra: it's required for like updates, if they ever update something then the efi partition wouldnt get updated
[10:43] <EriC^^> dnivra: i have no idea why it wont mount it, maybe TJ- might know
[10:43] <EriC^^> TJ-: dnivra 's efi partition wont get mounted while booting "bad superblock, option or something else", from a live usb it mounts perfectly fine using mount /boot/efi , and we mkfs.fat the partition and it still errors out
[10:44] <EriC^^> dnivra: i'm off to lunch, hope you guys can crack this one, good luck and have a nice day :)
[10:45] <dnivra> EriC^^: Thanks a lot for all the help! Very much appreciated. I'll see if the other problem can be figured out. Enjoy your lunch!
[11:06] <oodsway> looks like Bionic upgrade is now available: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts
[11:06] <EriC^> dnivra: no problem! you're very welcome, thanks
[11:09] <m4r35n357> Hi all, just upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04 and python-visual is gone.  Anyone else missing this, or know of a viable alternative?
[11:11] <dystopia_>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[11:16] <tomreyn> m4r35n357: python-visual (vpython.org) is not longer developed. python-vispy (vispy.org) can be a viable alternative
[11:18] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, where were you the other day?
[11:19] <tomreyn> m4r35n357: there is also pymol (pymol.org)
[11:20] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: not sure which day you mean (let's talk about non-support topics in -offtopic, please)
[11:20] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, can i pm you
[11:20] <wendico> Hello, i used this guide https://www.tecmint.com/configure-network-bonding-teaming-in-ubuntu/ to create a network bond in my ubuntu 18. Is that guide correct? by bond doesnt work, i must connect by wifi
[11:21] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: yes
[11:21] <TJ-> EriC^: Solved my issue - I created the LUKS /boot/ as --type=luks2 but GRUB still only supports luks1 - duh!!
[11:23] <wendico> anybdoy up to helping me create a network bond on ubuntu 18, ty
[11:26] <elcot> k
[11:27] <gold_> :)
[11:28] <EriC^> TJ-: ah, great! :)
[11:29] <m4r35n357> tomreyn, thx, investigating
[11:29] <m4r35n357> \tomreyn, thx, investigating
[11:29] <m4r35n357> oops
[11:29] <m4r35n357> been a while . .
[11:29] <dnivra> EriC^: So I find that the system mount can't mount the EFI partition but it does work fine in live USB. Hence, I'm thinking it might be something wrong in mount?
[11:30] <tomreyn> wendico: have a look at https://netplan.io/examples#bonding
[11:30] <TJ-> wendico: is that using systemd-networkd?
[11:35] <xuanrui> Hi all! I need help with a suspicious problem. I get a blank screen with a cursor after I log in. I'm using the default GNOME desktop on 18
[11:35] <xuanrui> 18
[11:35] <xuanrui> *18.04
[11:36] <xuanrui> Is this a common problem?
[11:37] <EriC^> dnivra: does the mount error come up in a initramfs shell style?
[11:39] <dnivra> EriC^: It comes up in boot time and says "press ctrl+d for maintenance" which drops to be a bash shell. I also tried mounting the EFI partition after commenting the line in /etc/fastab and logging in: still same error
[11:40] <EriC^> dnivra: i'm a little confused what you mean in the second sentence about mounting
[11:41] <EriC^> you commented out the line in fstab, i thought it reached the desktop successfully? or you mean with it commented out you tried mounting it from the maintenance shell?
[11:41] <dnivra> EriC^: Yes I reached desktop and I tried mounting the EFI partition after logging into the desktop
[11:41] <dnivra> got the same error and what is displayed in the maintenance shell
[11:42] <EriC^> dnivra: interesting
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> afternoon ioria
[11:42] <EriC^> dnivra: are you in the desktop right now?
[11:43] <ioria> lotuspsychje, hey lotus good afternoon
[11:43] <dnivra> EriC^: Yeah. The only common factor in both cases was the system mount: the live USB had a different mount.
[11:43] <dnivra> And yes I'm logged into the desktop now.
[11:44] <EriC^> dnivra: we did use "mount -a" successfully though, but it might be /proc/filesystems
[11:44] <EriC^> or some other system file
[11:44] <EriC^> dnivra: can you run "sudo cat /proc/filesystems | nc termbin.com 9999" ?
[11:45] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, i want to fix my wireless card connectivity when i fire it up it time passes and i get disconnected
[11:46] <dnivra> EriC^: http://termbin.com/1cqv
[11:47] <EriC^> dnivra: hmm vfat listed there
[11:47] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: i saw you posted this earlier, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wcK4PpbmkJ/ , line 39 and following is about a "Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0032] (rev 01)", is this what you're trying to make work?
[11:47] <EriC^> try please "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt |& nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:47] <EriC^> dnivra: following also "dmesg | tail | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:48] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, i guess so
[11:49] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: can you quickly sum up what doesn't work about it?
[11:50] <xuanrui> anykne
[11:50] <xuanrui> sorry, on my phone...mistyping stuff all the time
[11:50] <gt8ost4l> it fails miserrably and gives me a message
[11:51] <xuanrui> Anyone has insight into why I would get a blank screen with only the cursor? The cursor works as normal
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> xuanrui: did you clean install or upgrade 18.04?
[11:51] <xuanrui> Clean install
[11:51] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: what's the message? also, you wrote earlier that you're on ubuntu 18.04. is this 18.04.1 now ("lsb_release -ds" will tell)?
[11:52] <xuanrui> I even tried reinstalling a few times. Yes it's 18.04.1
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> xuanrui: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[11:52] <xuanrui> Nvidia GTX 960M, I have the driver from the PPA
[11:52] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, of course its 18.04
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> xuanrui: wich ppa version exactly please?
[11:52] <xuanrui> to be specific, nvidia-390
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> xuanrui: .48 or .77?
[11:53] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: so 18.04.0 or 18.04.1?
[11:53] <xuanrui> let me check
[11:53] <dnivra> EriC^: No output from mount. dmesg tail output seems to have very little info: http://termbin.com/e4xt
[11:53] <xuanrui> its 77
[11:53] <TJ-> dnivra: EriC^ what's the base problem there?
[11:54] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, first  one
[11:54] <EriC^> dnivra: what command did you run earlier to get the same error?
[11:54] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: can the system still get online by other means?
[11:54] <EriC^> TJ-: while booting it gives an error about not being able to mount /dev/sda1 on /boot/efi bad superblock,options, or something else
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> xuanrui: ok, we hear good things on that .77 should work actually, have you tryed get in with !nomodeset?
[11:55] <dnivra> EriC^: Interesting. I didn't realize that the mount succeeded. Let me try enabling in fstab and try again.
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> xuanrui: to see your available drivers list: ubuntu-drivers list
[11:55] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, yes im using an ethernet cable
[11:55] <EriC^> TJ-: we ran mkfs.fat and and inspected fstab for odd chars, still same error
[11:55] <EriC^> TJ-: while the os is running it seems to mount it fine, maybe some initramfs issue?
[11:56] <TJ-> EriC^: as I recall the EFI-SP won't be mounted until systemd is active, so real root-fs
[11:56] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: very well. then please install all the pending updates while we chat.
[11:57] <xuanrui> lotuspsychje: Let me try nomodeset actually
[11:57] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: do you kno how to do this?
[11:57] <TJ-> EriC^: maybe 'journalctl -xb --priority=warning' may help?
[11:57] <EriC^> TJ-: the only odd thing i can think of, if it's called odd, is that he's using msdos partition table with uefi, also grub kind of whined about incorrect GPT headers while installing which is new to me
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> xuanrui: another way to get in could be: sudo apt purge nvidia* to fallback to nouveau
[11:57] <filifunk2> tomreyn!  Hi, are you busy?  Was thinking of hammering away at my issue again.  Can do another time if you're busy
[11:57] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, yes
[11:58] <dnivra> EriC^: TJ-: Quick update - it seems to be working fine after enabling the entry in fstab. No mount issues now.
[11:58] <xuanrui> nouveau doesn't work for me
[11:58] <xuanrui> it doesn't get the resolution right at all
[11:58] <EriC^> dnivra: nice, great!
[11:58] <TJ-> EriC^: is it possible the MBR isn't a generated hybrid MBR from GPT, and they conflict?
[11:58] <dnivra> I think I know possibly why: kernel was likely updated.
[11:58] <EriC^> dnivra: that makes sense
[11:59] <TJ-> Well that was easy :)
[11:59] <tomreyn> filifunk2: i'm a bit busy right now but there are more lovely people also helping here, you'll need to sum it up again anyways (i forgot the details, sorry).
[12:00] <xuanrui> lotuspsychje: So should I get rid/comment out ro quiet splash before doing nomodeset?
[12:00] <filifunk2> tomreyn: ok!
[12:00] <illuminated> youtube-dl while far from perfect is p nice.
[12:00] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: so, you mentioned a message that shows up abhout your wireless
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> xuanrui: removing quiet splash is only to get a text-based bootup instead of gui logo
[12:01] <dnivra> TJ-, EriC^: Yeah that solved itself well. However, it doesn't seem to happen with an older kernel version so now I'm doubting if it was the kernel update.
[12:02] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, Activation of network connection failed
[12:02] <TJ-> EriC^: dnivra if it was being mounted at initialramfs  time, I'd suspect a corrupt initrd.img
[12:03] <dnivra> I get the error after the "Welcome to Ubuntu 18.04" message printed during boot time.
[12:03] <dnivra> or so I remember.
[12:03] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: okay, are updates downloading, yet?
[12:03] <dnivra> I checked update history again and I think it's probably the microcode updates?
[12:03] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, yes
[12:04] <xuanrui> lotuspsychje: better now. I get what I need. thanks!
[12:04] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: okay, once they're done, please tell me
[12:04] <xuanrui> btw, what does !nomodeset do, really?
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> xuanrui: youre welcome
[12:05] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: so the wireless will not even start, did i get this right?
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> xuanrui: well it sets no modes, so its only a temp solution...what really needs to work is your actual driver
[12:05] <xuanrui> Hmm, so I'd just have to wait for a better driver?
[12:05] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, yup i get that message
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> xuanrui: i advise you test the drivers, availaible to your system
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> xuanrui: ubuntu-drivers list from terminal
[12:06] <xuanrui> It seems that I also have 396
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> xuanrui: yeah try that aswell as test
[12:06] <xuanrui> That one doesn't work for me iirc, though?
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> xuanrui: if ubuntu-drivers list lists it, you can use it
[12:07] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, i finished downloading the updates
[12:08] <xuanrui> lotuspsychje: Let me try that
[12:08] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: does it say you need to reboot?
[12:08] <filifunk2> Hi all, can someone help me out with connecting my main computer to the internet via ethernet?  There already has been some groundwork done here by tomreyn so I imagine we're a lot closer to the end goal than would seem!
[12:09] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, no
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> filifunk2: sounds more like a ##networking question?
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> filifunk2: or is it ubuntu related?
[12:10] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: can you tell me what "cat /var/run/reboot-required" and "cat /proc/version" return?
[12:10] <filifunk2> lotuspsychje: so it is a networking problem and ubuntu related.  I have ubuntu on my computer
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> filifunk2: how about you just ask your issue to the channel, volunteers will take a look whats it about for you
[12:11] <filifunk2> lotuspsychje: ok!
[12:11] <tomreyn> !paste | gt8ost4l
[12:13] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, the first command doesnt exist
[12:13] <filifunk2> so i don't know how to phrase this that well i figure the best way may be to paste my pastebin summary that tomreyn had written up for me
[12:13] <filifunk2> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7sV3Jxn9JK/
[12:14] <filifunk2> I can't connect to the internet using my ethernet.  I was talking to someone else and he was saying it had to do with my dhcp but we were both tired and decided to attack it another day
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> filifunk2: does your wired connection work when direct connect modem/isp?
[12:16] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: how about the second? are you typing these commands or just copy / pasting them? if you're working from a different computer than the one we're trying to fix, we can try to make this more convenient for you.
[12:17] <xuanrui> lotuspsychje: neither of them work for me, but noveau is no better...
[12:17] <filifunk2> lotuspsychje: so I've attached my ethernet cord to the computer and then directly to the router and it doesn't work, which I think is what you're suggesting.  Unless you're thinking of a different connection?
[12:18] <filifunk2> and my router is connected to a wall plug for internet
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> filifunk2: but if previous router worked, this is a case of the netgear one no?
[12:19] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: are you still around?
[12:19] <ahcr007> ]\q
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> xuanrui: do you get errors installing the nvidia drivers?
[12:19] <ahcr007> q
[12:19] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RBgRdYPBwT/
[12:19] <xuanrui> lotuspsychje: nope, not any that I'm aware of
[12:19] <filifunk2> lotuspsychje: yes.  the previous router has worked.  Are you implying i should get a new router/
[12:19] <qwebirc16360> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PkCJsKs6Qm/
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> xuanrui: ok, we also have users that fixxed it by installing the nvidia linux driver from nvidia website too
[12:20] <JimBuntu> filifunk2, any other devices connected to that router? Are they working?
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> filifunk2: no, im thinking this is more an issue for ##networking
[12:21] <filifunk2> Jimbuntu: yes, the computer I am typing on right now is wirelessly connected to the router
[12:21] <filifunk2> Jimbuntu: so is my phone and my ps4
[12:21] <filifunk2> Jimbuntu: and successfully connected too
[12:22] <JimBuntu> filifunk2, Can you confirm what IP addresses one of those devices has?
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> xuanrui: did you test 4 types of drivers? 390 & 396 from ubuntu, and 390 & 396 from ubuntu graphics ppa?
[12:23] <xuanrui> lotuspsychje: it seems that ubuntu has only 396 and the graphics ppa only 390?
[12:23] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: thanks. so, are you working on this same computer or a different one?
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> xuanrui: aha, if ubuntu has chosen 396 for your card, you should try 396 from ppa? wich ppa is that exactly?
[12:23] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, same one
[12:23] <oswald> Hello i have a question, i'm fairly new to linux: How do i change the login screen(and the swipe up thing). Does this have to to with my Desktop Environment? (i think i use GNOME (the default one))
[12:24] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: okay so you can copy and paste commands easy and also copy and paste what the computer returns, good.
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> oswald: whats your current ubuntu version please
[12:24] <filifunk2> Jimbuntu:  yes, hostname -I gives me an IP 192.168.1.4
[12:25] <oswald> How  do i find out ( the command was something with lsb release no>)
[12:25] <xuanrui> lotuspsychje: the famous graphics-drivers/ppa
[12:25] <filifunk2> Jimbuntu: of the computer I'm typing on right now
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> oswald: lsb_release -a
[12:25] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: when was the last time you fully rebooted this computer, not just woke it from sleep / hibernatoin?
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> xuanrui: ubuntu ppa or olaf?
[12:25] <oswald> Ubuntu 18.04
[12:25] <JimBuntu> filifunk2, Ok. Unless you have configured the router in a custom fashion, then I suspect your desktop/wired computer has a manual IP config... since it's on 192.168.0.x instead of 192.168.1.x
[12:25] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: "uptime" will tell
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> oswald: ok ubuntu desktop 18.04 uses gdm3/gnome as default
[12:26] <adrian_1908> In LXD, is it normal that ~/.config/lxc/ is owned by root?
[12:26] <JimBuntu> filifunk2, please paste the response of `cat /etc/network/interfaces`
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> oswald: so wich login screen are you after exactly?
[12:26] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, using the iso on my usb drive
[12:26] <xuanrui> lotuspsychje: ubuntu ppa I think
[12:26] <filifunk2> Jimbuntu:  OK, I know i am not sophisticated enough to configure custom-like on purpose
[12:27] <filifunk2> # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
[12:27] <filifunk2> auto lo
[12:27] <filifunk2> iface lo inet loopback
[12:27] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: oh so ubuntu is not installed, but you are running form a live iso?
[12:27] <oswald> I just want to disable the swipe-up clock thing and maybe know what alternatives there are. Is the login screen bound to the desktop-environment? or is it seperate thing
[12:27] <Raccoon>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[12:28] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, no its installed
[12:28] <gt8ost4l> its complicated
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> xuanrui: 396.51-0ubuntu0~gpu18.04.1 seems to be there
[12:29] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: do you feel like explaining?
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> oswald: you could enable automatic password login, to avoid that swipe screen? its bound to gdm3
[12:29] <Grimnir3>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[12:30] <gt8ost4l> well i was uploading things to meganz but i stopped it was a long process
[12:30] <oswald> So the desktop environment is called gdm3 or GNOME? it's still confusing to me
[12:31] <ncuptea> hi all
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> oswald: gnome is the desktop, gdm3 the login manager
[12:31] <padarc> oswald, gdm is the "login screen thing/unlock screen thing", gnome is the DE
[12:31] <padarc> oh ... im too late :P
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> ncuptea: welcome to ubuntu support, how can we help you?
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> +1 padarc
[12:32] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: how is this related to "using the iso on my usb drive", and how is using the iso on your usb drive related to the question i asked:  when was the last time you fully rebooted this computer, not just woke it from sleep / hibernatoin?
[12:32] <oswald> okay thanks so i can freely combine DE/login manager/window manager?
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> oswald: yes, but we advise once you found your likings, to switch the the flavor you want
[12:33] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, why are you asking such irrelevant questions
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | oswald have different login/DE
[12:34] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: they are relevant, which is why i'm asking them. we don't need to carry on, though, if you're not interested (and i don't think you are).
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> oswald: for the overall performance of your computer, avoid using like 5 different desktops
[12:35] <ncuptea> thanks lotus, can u give me clue about setup squid as cache https ? because all i around the web not be could i take
[12:35] <oswald> okay and why is that? @lotuspsychje
[12:35] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, i didnt say that
[12:35] <ncuptea> sorry my english is bad, i am from indonesia
[12:36] <ncuptea> any body in here from indonesia?
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> oswald: too many DE's could scramble things up, fight with each other
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> !squid | ncuptea
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> oswald: but for testing, you are good to go, install what you like
[12:36] <oswald> can't i uninstall the old one?, lotuspsychje
[12:37] <ncuptea> squidguard not for cache
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> oswald: define 'old one' please?
[12:38] <filifunk2> Jimbuntu: not sure you saw it:  # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
[12:38] <filifunk2> auto lo
[12:38] <filifunk2> iface lo inet loopback
[12:38] <koichirose> Hi, I’m trying to upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04. The upgrade process failed and upon reboot I’m getting this when I run apt update: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security InRelease: Unknown error executing apt-key
[12:38] <koichirose> I googled everywhere but couldn’t find a solution. How can I fix this?
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> !id | ncuptea see also
[12:38] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: yes, you did not say so. it just feels like it to me since you answer my questions selectively and it takes you longer than the average person to respond to questions (which is fine if there is a reason to it).
[12:39] <xuanrui> lotuspsychje: Well its weird. I see nvidia-396 but apt-get complains about not being able to locate it
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> koichirose: did you receive the upgrade window, or did you manually upgrade?
[12:39] <JimBuntu> filifunk2, I had missed that. Were you not able to cat the interfaces file?
[12:39] <ncuptea> thanks ubottu, but for now i want learn from this channel
[12:39] <koichirose> lotuspsychje: I manually ran do-dist-upgrade
[12:39] <JimBuntu> ncuptea, ubottu us a bot
[12:40] <oswald> lotuspsychje, when the default login mange is gdm and i install another one can't i uninstall gdm3 then? because u said having to many DE's messes things up
[12:40] <ncuptea> interfaces files ubuntu in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:40] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: so i was trying to understand how long this computer has been running. the "uptime" command would say so. if answering this is difficult for some reason you can also just reboot it now.
[12:40] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, there is your deliberately reluctant
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> oswald: if you dont like gdm3, sure you can install another login manager
[12:41] <filifunk2> Jimbuntu: sorry, let me try this again I think i did it wrong
[12:41] <gt8ost4l> im trying my hardest to stay on track with you
[12:41] <oswald> yeah but i meantioned it beacuse you said having to many different DE's/login managers messes things up and therefore i should change to one of the ubuntu flavors thats what i havent fully understood yet
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> oswald: no i said too many desktops
[12:42] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: i assure you i was not deliberately reluctant (other than asking you to please ask your questions on the channel rather than in private, so that others could point out my mistakes and come up with better questions than mine).
[12:42] <filifunk2> Jimbuntu: no I opened the interfaces file and that is all there is
[12:43] <filifunk2> Jimbuntu: # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
[12:43] <filifunk2> auto lo
[12:43] <filifunk2> iface lo inet loopback
[12:43] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: so, i'm still trying to understand how long your system has been running, and whether you hibernated it.
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> xuanrui: perhaps try the nvidia website one? see what ti does?
[12:43] <filifunk2> Jimbuntu: if that's what you're asking me to do
[12:43] <oswald> and what do you mean by desktops? isnt a DE just a bundle of a preset of window manager/login manger etc. ?, lotuspsychje
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> oswald: you can install another login manager, without installing the DE too
[12:44] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, no i havent hibernated it
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> oswald: i just said, dont mix too many DE's togheter
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[12:44] <JimBuntu> filifunk2, Oh. seems to be lacking network interface configuration information. I would have expected at least an 'auto lo' line.
[12:44] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: okay, has it been up for days or just some hours?
[12:45] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, some hours
[12:45] <filifunk2> JimBuntu: so in my paste there is an auto lo line?
[12:45] <koichirose> lotuspsychje: any ideas?
[12:45] <JimBuntu> Oh, I had only read the line with my name in it... I see the other 2 lines now. Ok.
[12:45] <JimBuntu> filifunk2,
[12:46] <oswald> then i undestand the term 'DE' wrong i thought it's just a bundle/package of as i said window/login manager, so if i install another DE i just end up having another Window Manger/Login Manager @lotuspsychje or what am i understanding wrong?
[12:46] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: okay, please try to bring up the wireless now (i know it will fail), then post the url returned by: dmesg | tail -n100 | pastebinit
[12:48] <ducasse> oswald: a de is a lot more than just a wm+dm, it has a lot of stuff on top to create a full environment
[12:50] <oswald> ok cool
[12:50] <filifunk2> Jimbuntu: any thing else we can think of to do here?
[12:51] <JimBuntu> filifunk2, Well, we could manually bring your interface down & up with DHCP, to see if that resolves it.
[12:51] <JimBuntu> filifunk2, sudo ip link set dev enp2s0 down && sudo dhclient enp2s0
[12:52] <JimBuntu> Aside from this filifunk2 , I would suspect your router may be misconfigured.
[12:53] <filifunk2> Jimbuntu: ok I used that command and a pop up came out saying I was connected to enp2s0
[12:53] <filifunk2> Jimbuntu:  I guess I don't understand how it would be misconfigured when I haven't done anything to it other than plug it in and other devices are using it just fine
[12:54] <filifunk2> Jimbuntu: oh crap it works!
[12:54] <filifunk2> Jimbuntu: so was that command basically a reset button type thing?
[12:54] <JimBuntu> yay filifunk2.
[12:55] <u0_a285> hallo
[12:55] <JimBuntu> That command manually told your network interface to come back up with dhcp. You should try a reboot, see if the same issue comes back
[12:55] <JimBuntu> filifunk2, ^^
[12:55] <filifunk2> Jimbuntu: ok, will do that now
[12:55] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RDqctm8fn4/
[12:56] <u0_a285> hmm
[12:56] <Sven_vB> how can it be that I have too few memory to fork, while free -m reports I have lots of free memory? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/f9SXkR3t3f/
[12:56] <filifunk2> Jimbuntu: that command was magic lol.  Hope it works on reboot or I guess I just run that everytime lol
[12:56] <KanekiKun> hallo
[12:57] <JimBuntu> filifunk2, Well, if that command is what needed, then I'm sure someone on here can get your machine straightened out so that it happens on boot
[12:57] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: okay, this actually seems to have worked to bring up the interface, and to connect to an access point. do you see that the wireless is now connected when you click on the network icon on the top right?
[12:58] <filifunk2> Jimbuntu: annnnnndddd it died again lol yeah I'm going to need to figure out how to do that
[12:58] <filifunk2> Jimbuntu: is that a cronjob type thing?
[12:59] <KanekiKun> hiii
[12:59] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, yes
[12:59] <KanekiKun> can anyone help me ?
[12:59] <JimBuntu> filifunk2, normally it would simply be how the network interface is configured, what configs are used by the system when it brings up the networking service.
[12:59] <fred1807> do web have a global menu on Ubuntu Desktop ?
[12:59] <JimBuntu> !ask KanekiKun
[13:00] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: so this is new, rigfht? since earlier you said that it usually fails to activate and returns an error message.
[13:00] <JimBuntu> !ask > KanekiKun
[13:00] <filifunk2> JimBuntu: thanks!
[13:00] <KanekiKun> how to cek ip in termux ?
[13:00] <tomreyn> !cookie | JimBuntu
[13:00] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, yes i already pointed that out
[13:01] <JimBuntu> filifunk2, yw. Sorry to say, I am not that good with tracking down network configuration issues, but at least we know it basically only needs DHCP configured and any previous settings removed.
[13:01] <vali> !cookie | ubottu
[13:01] <vali> nice :)
[13:01] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: i'm just trying to make sure we actually made progress here. so do you think this is solved for now?
[13:01] <filifunk2> KanekiKun: hi, referred over by JimBuntu...are you busy?
[13:02]  * JimBuntu runs to the corner to devour his cookie.
[13:03] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: there seems to be an intermittent issue with your keyboard loosing connection to the computer (based on the logs you posted). maybe try plugging the keyboard into a different usb connector.
[13:03] <fred1807> TIL Ubuntu wont have global menus anymore?
[13:03] <fred1807> This is sad
[13:03] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, its my computer sorry
[13:04] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: how do you mean?
[13:04] <gt8ost4l> its always disconnecting stuff
[13:04] <tellollet> woy seto
[13:04] <gt8ost4l> i have to wait till december to get a new pc
[13:04] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: so there's a general hardware issue?
[13:05] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, yup
[13:05] <tellollet> seto
[13:05] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: ah, okay, please try to point such things out when asking for support in the future, it can make it easier to debug things.
[13:07] <gt8ost4l> i didnt know it was that important
[13:07] <tellollet> hmm
[13:08] <Sven_vB> looks like I ran out of PIDs. I stopped lots of services, especially one that forked a lot very fast, but still I get "fork: Cannot allocate memory" on every other command. any way to fix this w/o reboot?
[13:08] <ncuptea> telolet indo?
[13:08] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: that's why i'm just pointing it out for next time, i'm not blaming you.. ;-) this general issue can be the result of an undersized power supply unit.
[13:09] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: ...but there can be a couple other reasons, too, so if you'll replace the hardware in december anyways, maybe you dont want to spend time on finding this out.
[13:09] <tellollet> ncuptea yes i'm indo
[13:10] <tellollet> ncuptea are you from indonesia ?
[13:10] <tomreyn> !ot | tellollet
[13:11] <tellollet> what is ot tomreyn ?
[13:11] <ncuptea> a couple day ago i just success install android x86 side by side in ubuntu.. the problem is my external wifi card not detected by os, any body give advice for my case?
[13:11] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, nop i aint replacing anything
[13:11] <JBzh> Good afternoon. I've seen that there're some discussions about this, including in bugreports, but it's not easy to find informations about how to change default graphics in Gnome and Ubuntu. I can't find how to change the default wallpaper for new users (to a corporate one, we're deploying desktops using PXE/Preseed)
[13:11] <tomreyn> tellollet: anything that's not about ubuntu support Q&A. but sorry, i think i'm overdoing it.
[13:11] <ncuptea> tolelet, sama sy indonesia juga.. tepatnya dr bogor
[13:12] <tellollet> ncuptea, oh gw dari depok lumayan deket
[13:12] <tomreyn> gt8ost4l: maybe pay a visit to a nearby pc repairs place then, have them check the system's power supply. this can be quick and cheap.
[13:12] <ncuptea> kegiatan?
[13:13] <tomreyn> !en | ncuptea, tellollet
[13:13] <u0_a134> oi
[13:13] <tellollet> speak english sorry everyone
[13:13] <ncuptea> its just personal tom betwen telolet, sorry
[13:13] <sveinse> Under gnome managed X config, is it possible to configure different DPI on two screens. I'm running two 4k displays, one 15" and one 32", so everything is tiny on the 15"
[13:14] <ncuptea> ok tom
[13:14] <u0_a134> hy
[13:14] <u0_a134> where are you from
[13:15] <tomreyn> ncuptea: you can /query each other or form a new channel for this.
[13:15] <tellollet> uo_a134 change your nick
[13:15] <tellollet> sorry Tom
[13:16] <tomreyn> no problem, we just like to keep it strictly to support over here.
[13:16] <u0_a134> how to change nick my nic erorr
[13:16] <wendico> hello there, to boot win7, win10 and ubuntu 18 my BIOS should set up to uefi or legacy? thank you
[13:16] <tomreyn> since the channel can get busy
[13:16] <tellollet> u0_a134 indonesian people ?
[13:16] <ncuptea> wendice, uefi or legacy support
[13:16] <tomreyn> wendico: if you currently have none of them installed, and linux boots fine from uefi, use uefi.
[13:17] <u0_a134> not
[13:17] <tellollet> oh
[13:17] <ncuptea> haha
[13:18] <u0_a134> hy
[13:18] <tomreyn> wendico: if you have one or more of them installed already, and dont plan to reinstall them, you'll need to stick what is currently set.
[13:18] <ncuptea> ubuntu-id channel is empty :D
[13:18] <u0_a134> x
[13:19] <ncuptea> maybe reinstall grub
[13:20] <ncuptea> tom : what u're activity about computer os? desktop or server
[13:21] <TheBloke> Hello. I'm trying to install autossh on Ubuntu Server 18.04.1 LTS.  trying to run "autossh" says it can be installed with sudo apt install autossh, but when I try that, it says "Unable to locate package autossh".  I need autossh as a dependency for other software I'm installing.  Has it been removed or renamed or something?  Googling seems to show it's still in the repo.  I have run sudo apt update, and other packages install OK. Thanks.
[13:21] <u0_a212> hallo
[13:21] <u0_a212> hllo
[13:21] <tomreyn> u0_a212: hi. do you have an ubuntu support question?
[13:22] <u0_a212> what this entot :v kamvrert gak ngerti
[13:22] <ncuptea> TheBloke, the package is openssh-server
[13:22] <whoami> hy
[13:22] <whoami> hy brother
[13:22] <wendico> tomreyn: thank you
[13:22] <TheBloke> ncuptea: ah that includes autossh?  OK thanks a lot
[13:23] <u0_a212> oii
[13:23] <ncuptea> thebloke, are u use hardy on 2018?
[13:23] <u0_a212> nama gw jelek anjeg
[13:23] <whoami> haha tolol
[13:23] <tomreyn> !en | u0_a212
[13:23] <TheBloke> ncuptea: I'm using Ubuntu Server 18.04.1 LTS
[13:23] <whoami> plzz give me virus
[13:23] <tomreyn> !ot | whoami
[13:23] <cfhowlett> whoami, please stay on-topic
[13:23] <leftyfb> whoami: This is an ubuntu support channel. Trolling is offtopic here.
[13:24] <whoami> haha okay sorry friend
[13:24] <u0_a212> we chat same bot?
[13:24] <tellollet> what is ot tomreyn ?
[13:24] <tellollet> hallo whoami
[13:24] <tomreyn> !ot > tellollet
[13:24] <whoami> hy
[13:24] <ncuptea> maybe whoami is cracker.. lol
[13:24] <whoami> haha
[13:24] <u0_a212> oiii :v
[13:24] <tellollet> ncuptea whoami from indonesia too
[13:25] <ncuptea> yes i now
[13:25] <u0_a212> how tu chat private?
[13:25] <tellollet> oh
[13:25] <u0_a212> how to chat private?
[13:25] <whoami> haha where are you from ncuptea indo ?
[13:25] <tellollet> wa me
[13:25] <tomreyn> whoami: please stay on topic
[13:26] <whoami> haha
[13:26] <ncuptea> but still follow the rule.. haha, because tomrey or obuttu have angry to us.. haha
[13:26] <tellollet> tom are you bot ?
[13:26] <TheBloke> ncuptea: openssh-server does not contain autssh
[13:26] <TheBloke> *autossh
[13:27] <whoami> how to use ubuntu man ?
[13:27] <TheBloke> I already have openssh-server installed, but I don't have autossh.   I thought the package was called autossh, that's what I see on the web.  Maybe I am missing some repository?
[13:27] <tellollet> tom what is ot ?
[13:27] <ncuptea> thebloke, i just use openssh package for remote via ssh
[13:27] <tellollet> introduce my self ?
[13:27] <tomreyn> TheBloke: it's called "autossh" indeed
[13:27] <ncuptea> u can read the man page
[13:28] <u0_a212> gak jelas anjay
[13:28] <leftyfb> TheBloke: autossh is the name of the package. It's in the Universe repo
[13:28] <TheBloke> tomreyn: any idea why "sudo apt install autossh" says No package matching autossh is available"
[13:28] <TheBloke> Oh maybe I don't have the universe repo?
[13:28] <tomreyn> TheBloke: you may not have the right apt sources setup
[13:29] <TheBloke> OK I got it now, I needed to do "sudo add-apt-repository universe".  Thanks guys
[13:29] <tomreyn> oh this works? that's good to know
[13:29] <tellollet> what ?
[13:30] <tellollet> i don't understand wtf
[13:30] <leftyfb> tellollet: what can we help you with?
[13:30] <tellollet> i can't speak english
[13:31] <ncuptea> any body use squidserver on local area network and cache https not http?
[13:31] <leftyfb> !id | tellollet
[13:31] <leftyfb> ncuptea: try #ubuntu-server
[13:31] <TheBloke> is it possible to cache https? Surely all content is encrypted end-to-end
[13:32] <ncuptea> lefty, i use and run debian 7 for router
[13:32] <leftyfb> ncuptea: then you're in the wrong support channel
[13:32] <leftyfb> ncuptea: go to #debian for support
[13:32] <tellollet> ok ok
[13:32] <tellollet> i off
[13:33] <oswald> Hello, how do i change my default window manager? i just installed i3-wm and i have automatic login on and it logs me into gnome/gdm3 how can i change the defeault window manager so i automaticly log into i3?
[13:33] <ncuptea> same debian or ubuntu in hierarci files
[13:33] <leftyfb> ncuptea: we do not support Debian here. Go to #debian
[13:33] <prsstnt> i'm getting quite a lot of bugs in this latest release
[13:34] <leftyfb> prsstnt: start with 1 and detail it here.
[13:34] <leftyfb> oswald: turn off autologin, log out, pick your WM and login and reenable autologin
[13:34] <ncuptea> ok lefty, but my question is setup squid as server for cache https if any body has success runing
[13:34] <prsstnt> in firefox and some other apps, the mouse is behaving very strangely when i hover over the top sections
[13:35] <leftyfb> ncuptea: your question is not related to ubuntu. Go to #debian for support.
[13:35] <ncuptea> what is topic in here? sorry
[13:35] <leftyfb> prsstnt: got a screenshot or video? Or explain what you mean by "strangely"? Also, what version of ubuntu and what video chipset?
[13:35] <JimBuntu>  /topic
[13:35] <oswald> ok will try thanks
[13:35] <leftyfb> ncuptea: This is Ubuntu support
[13:35] <TheBloke> and it's not possible to cache https anyway, at least not without instigating a man-in-the-middle attack
[13:36] <ncuptea> all around system of ubuntu? ok
[13:36] <Zexaron> >Hello
[13:36] <tomreyn> ncuptea: can you tell me how you found this chat?
[13:36] <Zexaron> does ubuntu support full boot into RAM ?
[13:36] <JimBuntu> Zexaron, yes
[13:36] <leftyfb> TheBloke: incorrect
[13:37] <tomreyn> ncuptea: in private, please
[13:37] <Zexaron> JimBuntu: Could I make a custom ISO and enable that ?
[13:37] <JimBuntu> Zexaron, you can. There are probably a few tutorials even.
[13:37] <JimBuntu> Zexaron, example https://www.pendrivelinux.com/ubuntu-toram-how-to-make-ubuntu-boot-to-ram/
[13:38] <JimBuntu> Zexaron, very old example, but you should be able to find something much more modern
[13:39] <Zexaron> JimBuntu: I was gettiong tired of using sata drives to do maintenance on multiple PCs, I thought of making a bootable multiboot USB stick with several linux distros and utilities (clonezilla), the problem is the only practical things is a volatile live version but it has to be fully into RAM, persistence file or installation to USB is very sloow unpractical
[13:39] <Zexaron> I'm tired of having to open up a PC, disconnect sata, rearrange, killing my legs and back, tired of that nonsense
[13:39] <prsstnt> 18.04, "intel hd" graphics, the mouse is duplicated multiple times when scrolling over certain things,  leftyfb
[13:39] <prsstnt> no video or pic atm
[13:40] <leftyfb> Zexaron: is this onsite support or in your place of business?
[13:40] <Zexaron> And needing to have a 120 GB SSD just for a few linux apps is wierd
[13:40] <prsstnt> what is the command to find graphics card?
[13:40] <Zexaron> this is home
[13:40] <leftyfb> Zexaron: thought about setting up a PXE server with live OS's loaded?
[13:40] <leftyfb> prsstnt: lspci|grep -i vga
[13:41] <Zexaron> I don't have budget for anything other than an USB right now
[13:41] <Zexaron> USB stick
[13:41] <leftyfb> Zexaron: you could build this on a $5 raspberry pi
[13:41] <prsstnt> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 21)
[13:41] <leftyfb> or even in a linux container on an existing machine
[13:41] <Zexaron> But I didn't bother buying anything fast, most USBs have pisspoor random/4K read writes, the EXTREME FAST ones are even worse than the normal ones
[13:42] <Zexaron> Sandisk Cruzer Extreme USB3 is exception, but it's old and scarse, I wasn't able to get it locally, nor Amazon.de, only Amazon.com which is overseas
[13:42] <leftyfb> Zexaron: lets stay on topic please.
[13:43] <Zexaron> There is the new Sandisk Extreme GO USB3.1 but it's not a proper successor, it's not the same, so I didn't buy anything
[13:43] <leftyfb> Zexaron: lets stay on topic please.
[13:43] <xuanrui> Hm, I see that my problem is that my GDM is outdated
[13:44] <xuanrui> I updated GDM and got my desktop back
[13:44] <xuanrui> problem is, my display become extremely flaky
[13:44] <leftyfb> xuanrui: what version of ubuntu?
[13:44] <xuanrui> I can't even chromium/ubuntu now
[13:44] <xuanrui> 18.04
[13:44] <ncuptea> btw, why my ubuntu trusty make my old hardware overheal better than my 10.04, because kernel or what?
[13:44] <tomreyn> prsstnt: can you post the output of: sudo dmidecode --type bios --type baseboard --type system
[13:45] <ncuptea> **oveheat
[13:45] <tomreyn> !pastebinit | prsstnt
[13:45] <xuanrui> to be specific, 18.04.01, driver nvidia-390, graphics card GTX 960M
[13:45] <leftyfb> xuanrui: then you weren't running an "outdated" GDM
[13:45] <ncuptea> tom, in private
[13:45] <leftyfb> ncuptea: 10.04 is 3 years OEL
[13:45] <xuanrui> I was not, I just got the updates from apt
[13:45] <tomreyn> ncuptea: do it again, please, i missed it
[13:46] <xuanrui> and that fixed my display problems albeit giving me new (less severe) problems
[13:47] <ncuptea> yes lefty, but 10.04 not help me if any new harware plug in like usb dongle in new version and other
[13:48] <Sven_vB> how can I test my new cron job file in /etc/cron.d that has a @restart line?
[13:48] <prsstnt> tomreyn, https://paste.ofcode.org/A5tx2t7YH9CR2CrKA8WzRg
[13:49] <wendico> after testing a couple of ubuntu 18 installations, it seems that have made permanent changes to my BIOS. I disconected all drives, i mean all of them, leave just mouse and my bios shows this https://imgur.com/a/WRKxxHt
[13:51] <wendico> Any clue on how to remove that "Ubuntu" from my bios? i removed electricity and batterry few minutes, then i booted bios asked me load default and i did, i go into bios with no kind of data drive added but still show that "boot overwrite" named ubuntu and both can be choosed as boot drives
[13:51] <leftyfb> wendico: that's not your BIOS. It's EFI
[13:52] <tomreyn> prsstnt: i'm looking at it, give me a sec
[13:52] <leftyfb> wendico: there's probably an EFI editor somewhere in your BIOS. Or boot a live CD and edit it somewhow.
[13:54] <wendico> leftyfb: thank you. reading on EFI to learn, i have ready boot cds to solve it. Thanks for the info.
[13:54] <tomreyn> prsstnt: hmm i can't seem to identify the exact model, do you know which one it is, does it sa yon the bottom?
[13:54] <ncuptea> i must left.. thanks all
[13:55] <tomreyn> prsstnt: also, can you "dmesg | pastebinit"
[13:55] <skinux> Does adding entry in /etc/hosts require restart?
[13:55] <ryuo> skinux: no...?
[13:56] <skinux> Okay
[13:57] <prsstnt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Nj9w6NkBx7/ not sure the model, should i disconnected and take apart pc?
[13:57] <ryuo> prsstnt: dmidecode can tell you.
[13:57] <tomreyn> prsstnt: no, its ok then
[13:57] <ryuo> Seems it gives it away.
[13:58] <ryuo> DMI: Packard Bell iMedia S2984/iMedia S2984, BIOS R01-A4 11/03/2015
[13:58] <tomreyn> ryuo: we tried this, but i couldnt match it to anything on the vendor website
[13:58] <ryuo> Oh.
[13:59] <ryuo> found this
[13:59] <ryuo> http://www.packardbell.com/pb/nl/NL/content/model/DT.U95MH.001
[13:59] <tharkun18>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[13:59] <ntd> when is an updated gdm3 for xenial coming? https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2018/CVE-2018-14424.html
[14:01] <leftyfb> ntd: it's being worked on. That CVE was literally updated yesterday. Have some patience.
[14:02] <ntd> sure, was just surprised to see that libreoffice apparently had been prioritized?
[14:02] <ntd> :)
[14:02] <leftyfb> ntd: different dev groups completely
[14:03] <tomreyn> ryuo: so it's maybe "DT.U95MH.001", so a iMedia xx.U94 [U95,U96,U9H,UA3,UA4] series
[14:03] <rory> When I install some package that pauses to prompt for a value, then I later uninstall that package, how can I have it prompt me again when I reinstall? Seems if I just do "apt remove" and "apt install" it remembers what I entered last time. Where are those values stored?
[14:03] <tomreyn> prsstnt: i wass just checking the model number to see whether there are bios updates available. but apparently packard bellmakes none available for this system.
[14:04] <ph88> when is the 4.16 kernel coming to ubuntu 18.04 ?
[14:04] <prsstnt> tomreyn, i think it's a feature that is made for smartphones/tablets that just screws up desktop versions or something
[14:04] <prsstnt> basically the mouse is letting you know where it was
[14:04] <prsstnt> happens on taskbars and even when i scroll over usernames here
[14:04] <prsstnt> on hexchat
[14:05] <prsstnt> and links
[14:05] <Stochastix_> If I have a copy of the whole ubuntu repo,  can I point both us.archives.ubuntu and security.ubuntu at the same repo ?
[14:05] <JBzh> rory: uninstall keeps the configuration files. You may want to uninstall --purge
[14:05] <rory> yeah I tried with that, and checked the resulting config files are deleted
[14:05] <rory> it seems like dpkg itsself is remembering the values I entered the first time
[14:06] <Stochastix_> When i ping them, they go to different servers on the  internet, but is the content basically the same?
[14:06] <rory> Is it dpkg-recongifure that I need?
[14:07] <JBzh> rory: dpkg-reconfigure will ask you again these questions, yes
[14:08] <armyriad24>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[14:08] <armyriad24>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  ­ https://i.redd.it/8w0r915sm1ty.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[14:08] <amosbird> Hi, how can I install g++ 8.2 in ubuntu ?
[14:09] <tomreyn> prsstnt: so a 'mouse pointer finder' feature, you mean?
[14:09] <vlkwgn> ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS with kernel 4.15.0-30-generic and microcode 0x8e spectre and meltdown mitigation: https://imgur.com/a/aa50cJb
[14:09] <leftyfb> !latest | amosbird
[14:09] <prsstnt> so i get the feeling i should get an AMD chip in the future
[14:09] <tomreyn> prsstnt: there is definitely an issue with your intel integrated graphics / the i915 driver for it oin this kernel version.
[14:10] <prsstnt> otherwise everything is fine, so i might just live with it
[14:11] <prsstnt> just gets confusing to know where the mouse is sometimes lol
[14:11] <ryuo> prsstnt: what's the issue?
[14:11] <leftyfb> amosbird: you could try installing gcc-8
[14:11] <tomreyn> prsstnt: have a look at line 773 and 789 of what you posted http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Nj9w6NkBx7/
[14:12] <prsstnt> ah
[14:12] <prsstnt> some mischievous interrupt
[14:13] <tomreyn> prsstnt: these 'perf' messages can just mean that parts of the hardware aren't catching up fast enough with other parts since the system is pretty busy currently, but the warning after this is a kernel oops and should not happen during normsal operation.
[14:13] <ryuo> fun.
[14:13] <ryuo> prsstnt: i get these a lot: [drm:intel_cpu_fifo_underrun_irq_handler [i915]] *ERROR* CPU pipe A FIFO underrun
[14:13] <ryuo> no idea why.
[14:13] <tomreyn> that's a different issue, though
[14:14] <tomreyn> prsstnt: is the desktop generally very slow to respond to your actions?
[14:14] <prsstnt> no, generally very fast tomreyn
[14:15] <tarzeau__> do people remember protracker or fasttracker2?
[14:15] <prsstnt> (since moving frmo windows)
[14:15] <tomreyn> prsstnt: okay, so also on 18.04, right?
[14:15] <prsstnt> yes
[14:16] <prsstnt> 	Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS
[14:16] <prsstnt> it seems to be getting worse and worse though
[14:17] <tomreyn> prsstnt: if you'll be looking for new hardwar e(since oyu mentioned this previously), try not to buy a 'celeron' again. those are not very well supported by intel on linux.
[14:18] <prsstnt> ok
[14:18] <prsstnt> i won't be buying intel against since they release stuff that is broken tbh
[14:19] <prsstnt> unless they publically apologise for this spectre crap
[14:19] <prsstnt> :)
[14:22] <ryuo> prsstnt: AMD is also impacted.
[14:23] <ryuo> prsstnt: same logic could be applied there.
[14:24] <prsstnt> really?
[14:24] <prsstnt> will have to make my own graphics cards then i guess
[14:24]  * prsstnt goes down the mine
[14:24] <ryuo> prsstnt: yes? i meant the CPU stuff.
[14:25] <prsstnt> oh yes it's cpu
[14:25] <ryuo> prsstnt: only one AMD is certainly immune to is meltdown.
[14:29] <tomreyn> prsstnt: also spectre variant 3 + 3a for all we know.
[14:31] <tomreyn> err 3 is meltdown
[14:31] <ryuo> I recently bought a bristol ridge laptop. Seems to be effected but meltdown as the mitigations are all active.
[14:31] <T3ll0ll3T> hallo
[14:34] <T3ll0ll3T> where is tom
[14:34] <T3ll0ll3T> can i ask ?
[14:35] <cfhowlett> this is ubuntu support, T3ll0ll3T .
[14:35] <ryuo> tomreyn: seems to read the same files I checked under /sys.
[14:35] <T3ll0ll3T> what is metasploit ?
[14:36] <Pcost8300> hello everyone and good morning, i would like to know how do i get workspaces when i boot on command line only ?
[14:37] <ryuo> Pcost8300: use other virtual consoles?
[14:38] <Pcost8300> ryou: i will search about it, im not using graphic user interface...
[14:38] <wendico> hello, i enabled uefi (disable csm support on my bios) as suggested for a fresh ubuntu install, but, when disabling csm support my pc doesnt boot unless i remove my graphics card.
[14:38] <wendico> may my graphic card really need to enable csm support to work?
[14:38] <ryuo> Pcost8300: this doesn't require one. Ctrl-Alt-F1 F2 F3, etc.
[14:38] <wendico> with onboard graphics everything goes well without csm support
[14:39] <Pcost8300> ryou thank very much i didnt understand you at first. Thank you
[14:40] <tomreyn> wendico: if your graphics card is an nvidia, you may need to use !nomodeset or updated graphics drivers from a PPa to make things work.
[14:40] <tomreyn> * !ppa
[14:40] <tomreyn> !nomodeset > wendico
[14:41] <wendico> yes, soz, english my 3rd language, i mean if disabled csm support my computer doesnt work at all, makes 3 beeps and cant even go into bios
[14:41] <prsstnt> tomreyn, what should i do about this issue do you think?
[14:41] <RandomTech> hello everyone
[14:43] <tomreyn> prsstnt: you could try a less demanding desktop environment, such as xubuntu, ubuntu mate, lubuntu.
[14:43] <wendico> does a graphic card (mine is gygabyte) may need csm support to boot?
[14:43] <rory> When a user's password expires, SSH prompts for the password even when using an RSA key to authenticate, is it possible to change the behaviour so I can use an SSH key to authenticate even if the password is expired?
[14:43] <leftyfb> wendico: did you look up what CSM support is?
[14:43] <T3ll0ll3t> hmm
[14:44] <leftyfb> rory: why bother with password expiring if you're using ssh keys? Just disable password auth completely
[14:44] <wendico> legtyfb yes i read up, to support legacy hd system on old os instead of uefy, if enabled, i can chosse weather legacy or uefy
[14:44] <prsstnt> thanks
[14:44] <wendico> so since im gonna use only win10 and ubutu18 i dont need legacy thus disabling csm should make my bios work only with uefi and efi
[14:44] <RandomTech> Does anyone here know how i could make a group of servers have distributed storage that the home directory lives on? I do not have access to a dedicated storage server at the moment
[14:44] <tomreyn> wendico: unlikely. also gigabyte is just the vendor brand name, mat matters is the actual graphics chipset. "lspci -nn | grep -i video" should tell you what you have there
[14:45] <tomreyn> wendico: with 'unlikley' i was responding to <wendico> does a graphic card (mine is gygabyte) may need csm support to boot?
[14:45] <wendico> but doing disabling csm support makes my computer not boot at all, not even to bios, unless i remove my graphic card so i guess my card also needs some legacy support
[14:46] <leftyfb> wendico: so leave CSM enabled
[14:46] <tomreyn> prsstnt: you're welcome. you can switch to those by just installing additional packages and choosing to login to the other desktop on login.
[14:46] <wendico> exactly, but since i was sugested not to coz not needed....
[14:46] <tomreyn> prsstnt: so no need to reinstaöö
[14:46] <wendico> i didnt know csm also needed for graphics cards
[14:46] <tomreyn> prsstnt: so no need to reinstall
[14:48] <rory> leftyfb: that is a good point, I know we'll never use password auth, so I can just disable it globally. Thanks.
[14:48] <tomreyn> wendico: if your system will not boot with a certain combination of mainboard model, firmware version, graphics card then those are really ##hardware topics, not exactly ubuntu related.
[14:49] <tomreyn> wendico: i'd try getting the latest mainboard firmware then, might help. maybe also a firmware update for the graphcis card, if available.
[14:50] <tomreyn> wendico: you could also ask in ##hardware
[14:51] <wendico> noted down, thank you im sorry to bother offtopic. thank you all
[14:53] <bratchley> is there an easy way to delete just the known_hosts entry for a particular server? The server names appear to be base64 encoded now or something
[14:54] <bratchley> I'm on 18.04
[14:55] <ntd> ssh-keygen -f "/path/to/known_hosts" -R %hostname/ip%
[14:57] <T3ll0ll3t>  hmm
[14:58] <tomreyn> T3ll0ll3t: do you need any ubuntu support?
[14:59] <bratchley> ntd: thank you much
[14:59] <bratchley> any idea why the change was made?
[15:04] <RandomTech> Does anyone know of a distributed storage option that i can bind home directories to?
[15:04] <pavelz> what is super-O shortcut in gnome ubnutu ?
[15:04] <pavelz> It is interferening w my workj
[15:08] <hateball> RandomTech: GlusterFS comes to mind
[15:13] <ryuo> pavelz: mapped to orientation lock it appears.
[15:13] <ryuo> pavelz: check your DE's keyboard shortcuts and disable it if you want it to be available for general use.
[15:14] <rawtaz> hi. i have a question: i noticed that in the title of ubuntu.com it says "The leading operating system for ..." - what metric is the basis for that claim, that ubuntu is the leading operating system for these things?
[15:15] <ryuo> rawtaz: it's probably just marketing language. a lot of places claim they're leading or leaders without anything to support it.
[15:15] <rawtaz> ryuo: i agree, a lot of them do. but that doesnt make it more right, if there's no basis for it. so the question remains
[15:16] <rawtaz> if ubuntu claims this, then presumably they should be able to explain what they base it on
[15:16] <ryuo> rawtaz: My answer was, there probably isn't a real answer. But feel free to keep looking.
[15:16] <rawtaz> ryuo: yes, let's hope someone else in here knows
[15:17] <rawtaz> i mean, logically, if there is no "answer", then the company behind the site is simply lying is straight in the face
[15:17] <leftyfb> rawtaz: feel free to reach out to Canonical: https://www.ubuntu.com/contact-us    otherwise, this is offtopic here. This is an Ubuntu support channel.
[15:18] <JimBuntu> rawtaz, https://blog.ubuntu.com/2016/04/07/ubuntu-is-everywhere?utm_source=omgubuntu
[15:19] <RandomTech> hateball: At first glance GlusterFS seems promissing but ill have to do more research
[15:20] <rawtaz> JimBuntu: thanks. it doesnt however show that ubuntu is the leading one
[15:20] <JimBuntu> rawtaz, come to #ubuntu-discuss please
[15:20] <rawtaz> JimBuntu: sure
[15:24] <arooni4>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[15:26] <prsstnt> it is very strange that this problem only started today
[15:28] <Kaylas> hi all, i have a very old pc. When i try to install xubuntu 18 on it, after ask me about the update and other staff it stucks. any tips about it?
[15:29] <hateball> RandomTech: you're still reliant on something like NFS on top of it so
[15:30] <biger> hello
[15:30] <pavelz> ryuo: thanks can;t find it tho on ubuntu
[15:30] <pavelz> er gnome
[15:31] <pavelz> seems the problem with all Super+key cobos
[15:31] <pavelz> super combos don't get to thet app
[15:32] <RandomTech> hateball: what do you mean?
[15:35] <hateball> RandomTech: to mount a partition to use as /home you'll need to serve it over e.g NFS
[15:36] <RandomTech> So I would use GlusterFS to bind the extra storage into a distributed network storage, then use NFS to bind /home to it?
[15:36] <hateball> RandomTech: actually there is a glusterfs client I see now, was this always the case? hmmm
[15:39] <hateball> RandomTech: anyhow I havent done more than try it ages ago, the docs seem good tho. like https://docs.gluster.org/en/latest/Administrator%20Guide/Setting%20Up%20Clients/
[15:40] <RandomTech> thanks hateball, I'm currently tasked with reconfiguring some systems for a different purpose and i hope this helps
[15:43] <chrisml> just changed the root password with kvm, it works in kvm but not ssh?
[15:44] <dnsdns> hi, this is not exactly ubuntu related but someone here knows probably. Where exactly should I set a rDNS record if I'm using something like cloudflare DNS servers?
[15:44] <rawtaz> ok great, this `do-release-upgrade` completely screwed itself up. there was a conflict with sshd_config, i opened a new shell to examine, and while i was typing a diff command i get python messages about keyboard interrupts, etc. upon trying to resurrect the window (given the option to do that or x to terminate it) it just puts me back to a state where it says another package manager is already running. pressing x to terminate took me back to the root p
[15:45] <rawtaz> so the question is; after a screwup like that, how can i *continue* do-release-upgrade, or what should i do? i dont know the state of things, but clearly it was at the step where it's upgrading sshd
[15:46] <tomreyn> chrisml: by default ubuntu doesn't have a root password set, the root account is locked and ssh login is only possible as restrcited users. restricted users can use sudo to run single comands as root, or, if needed, to escalate to root.
[15:46] <chrisml> tomreyn it had a password set before and was working, then i restarted the server and couldn't login (the password changed somehow)
[15:46] <tomreyn> chrisml: actually, this wasn't exactly correct. correactly, ssh authentication as root is only possible with authentication methods other than password authentication.
[15:47] <chrisml> so i've changed it via kvm
[15:47] <rawtaz> ill try just re-running do-release-upgrade
[15:47] <chrisml> tomreyn shh login with root & a password was working a few hours ago, then it was rebooted and the password changed
[15:47] <tomreyn> chrisml: the password will never change due to a reboot, unless the system was modified to do that.
[15:47] <rawtaz> ok, that didnt work - it says there's no new version. so i guess it thinks it's already upgraded, even though it stopped during the sshd_config conflict
[15:48] <chrisml> tomreyn yes, i think it might have been compromised
[15:48] <chrisml> (not setup by me)
[15:48] <chrisml> tomreyn i'm just wondering why the password wouldn't work in ssh, maybe the config has changed?
[15:48] <chrisml> but ssh still prompts for a password for root
[15:48] <tomreyn> chrisml: if you suspect the system is compromised, you should now power it off, then restore it from verified clean backups.
[15:48] <chrisml> tomreyn yeah i know
[15:49] <tomreyn> chrisml: what is PermitRootLogin set to in sshd_config
[15:50] <tomreyn> chrisml: and when was this file last modified
[15:50] <chrisml> tomreyn July 10
[15:51] <chrisml> tomreyn permitrootlogin is commented out (#PermitRootLogin prohibit-password)
[15:51] <chrisml> tomreyn does it default to yes?
[15:51] <dnsdns> Anyone?
[15:51] <tomreyn> chrisml: i would think it defaults to 'prohibit-password'
[15:51] <chrisml> tomreyn 'PermitRootLogin no' at the bottom of the file
[15:52] <chrisml> so, definitely compromised
[15:52] <chrisml> that'll teach my friend from not hardening ubuntu servers!
[15:53] <tomreyn> !patience | dnsdns
[15:55] <tomreyn> dnsdns: rdns is to be set by your hosting provider / network admin
[15:56] <dnsdns> dnsdns: lets say I have a vps or a dedicated server. you mean I should ticket the data center or what?
[15:57] <leftyfb> dnsdns: rDNS is managed by the owner/admin of the ip address. Not your domain. So, not you. If you're using cloudflare, all of their ip's are going to rDNS to their organization, not you.
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[15:57] <tasse28>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  ­ https://i.redd.it/8w0r915sm1ty.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[15:57] <dnsdns> leftyfb: not me. ok but who? who should I ask to do it now?
[15:57] <dnsdns> who's the IP owner?
[15:58] <leftyfb> dnsdns: again, if you're using cloudflare, then the ip's will be theirs. They are not going to do rDNS for you.
[15:58] <dnsdns> leftyfb: ok what should I do now?
[15:58] <leftyfb> dnsdns: something else?
[15:58] <dnsdns> having my own dns server?
[15:59] <dnsdns> leftyfb: like?
[15:59] <tomreyn> dnsdns: can you discuss what your goals are?
[15:59] <leftyfb> dnsdns: again, your own DNS server will not help you. You do not own the ip's. If you're using Cloudflare, it's their ip's and they are the only ones who can change anything with them. But they will not since they have hundreds of them that your domain could possibly be coming from. Also other people's domains.
[16:00] <dnsdns> tomreyn: it's for an email server.
[16:00] <leftyfb> dnsdns: Then what does cloudflare have to do with it?
[16:00] <rawtaz> is there a way to force re-doing everything that do-release-upgrade should have done (after that process was interrupted at the stage where sshd_config was supposed to be replaced)?
[16:00] <dnsdns> leftyfb: I'm not sure if you understand what's going on. I'm not bound to cloudflare. they're just dns providers. I can change dns servers to what ever I want.
[16:01] <leftyfb> dnsdns: If you're running an email server, then contact the owner of the ip that your email server is hosted with. It's unlikely they will change rDNS for your ip unless you're paying for a dedicated ip address
[16:01] <dnsdns> rawtaz: I'm not sure if I understand you properly but maybe dpkg-reconfigure is what you're looking for?
[16:01] <leftyfb> dnsdns: I understand more than you think
[16:02] <dnsdns> leftyfb: who's the IP owner?
[16:02] <dnsdns> the data center?
[16:02] <RussellB2829>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[16:02] <dnsdns> and what will they do exactly there?
[16:03] <leftyfb> dnsdns: if you're doing some sort of VPN/shared/dedicated/colo hosting in a datacenter, then sure. More likely your provider.
[16:03] <dnsdns> It's not a host. it's a server.
[16:03] <leftyfb> dnsdns: if you have a VPS, contact the VPS provider
[16:03] <rawtaz> dnsdns: in summary; i ran do-release-upgrade. after running a while and doing stuff it told me there was a conflict between the system sshd_config and the new copy of that, asked me what to do. for various reasons in the end the do_release_upgrade was terminated here, entirely. i verified i still have the old sshd_config file in the system, so the upgrade was clearly not completed. if i re-run do-release-upgrade, it tells me there's nothing to do, which
[16:03] <leftyfb> rawtaz: sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt full-upgrade
[16:04] <rawtaz> leftyfb: thanks! gonna read the man pages to understand it, then run it and see. cheers
[16:04] <leftyfb> dnsdns: if you have a dedicated server in a facility, then contact whoever you are paying for your internet service
[16:04] <dnsdns> leftyfb: ok so the first part is solved. It should be done by the datacenter. now the second question is, imagine I'm the datacenter, owning the IP. what should I do?
[16:06] <leftyfb> dnsdns: I did say it was more likely your provider. But if you did own the ip address and were authoritative for it's subnet, then you would create an PTR record for the ip in question
[16:06] <rawtaz> leftyfb: quick Q; where's the state of a package being configured or not yet configured stored? how can i tell that state for a given package?
[16:07] <dnsdns> leftyfb: I know I should create a PTR record. I wanna know how though? where? I wanna learn that.
[16:07] <leftyfb> dnsdns: https://www.apnic.net/about-apnic/corporate-documents/documents/resource-guidelines/reverse-zones/
[16:07] <dnsdns> leftyfb: thanks a lot. reading it.
[16:13] <dnsdns> leftyfb: afaik it's not the ip provider. I think it just needs a dns server on the server with the said IP that they can query.
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> rawtaz: configs for packages are stored in /home is that what you need?
[16:13] <dnsdns> that's probably what they mean by "IP owner".
[16:14] <leftyfb> dnsdns: incorrect
[16:15] <dnsdns> leftyfb: that's what bind does. no?
[16:15] <leftyfb> dnsdns: your DNS server needs to be authoritative for that subnet in order for any other DNS servers to query it. You are not authoritative
[16:17] <leftyfb> dnsdns: call your ip provider and ask if you can be authoritative for your static ip address(es). More likely they'll say no. But worth a shot. If they say yes, they'll ask for the ip address of the public DNS server you're running and you'll need to setup PTR records for that/those ip(s)
[16:18] <leftyfb> dnsdns: if they say no, you can sometimes ask them to create a PTR for you over the phone. You'll tell them what you want it to be and they'll set it up
[16:18] <leftyfb> dnsdns: but again, I doubt any of this will happen
[16:18] <dnsdns> so I can't have a proper ptr at all?:/
[16:18] <leftyfb> dnsdns: unlikely. But you won't know until you call your ip provider.
[16:19] <dnsdns> leftyfb: that's for public dns. what if I have my own dns server on the same vps?
[16:20] <leftyfb> dnsdns: for your own local, non-routable ip's, then sure. Run your own BIND server. Go to town.
[16:20] <leftyfb> dnsdns: that's basically what routers do
[16:20] <faLUCE> Hello (18.04).  I created a hotspot wi-fi connection on an usb dongle with network-manager (GUI). I can see the hotspot in list, and my android device sees it as well. However, my android device can't connect to it (generic error)... what can I check in order to fix that? thanks
[16:21] <dnsdns> That's silly. so basically if I want to have a proper mail server, I should ask help of the datacenter?
[16:21] <rawtaz> hmm. there's a  /usr/bin/dpkg --force-overwrite --status-fd 87 --configure <tons of packages here>  still running on my system, probably started due to do-release-upgrade. is there any way i can kick it to make it continue its work?
[16:22] <rawtaz> looks like this: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/9091536
[16:22] <leftyfb> dnsdns: It's not silly. It's called security. And yes, if you want to run your own email server you need to go through the proper channels and setup the proper acl's in order to not contribute to the garbage that currently exists on the internet
[16:22] <faLUCE> here's the guid I followed:  https://www.intrawebsolns.com/how-to-create-wifi-hotspot-in-ubuntu-18-04-lts-bionic-beaver-or-linux-mint-19-tara-android-is-supported/   ....
[16:23] <dnsdns> Thanks a lot.
[16:23] <rawtaz> lotuspsychje: no, sorry, im talking about dpkg status about packages being configured or not
[16:23] <ppf> leftyfb, dnsdns: you got that backwards i think
[16:23] <dnsdns> ppf: tell me more
[16:23] <leftyfb> faLUCE: check the ipv4 settings, make sure it's set to shared
[16:23] <leftyfb> ppf: which part are you saying I have backwards. I've done this a few times in my life.
[16:24] <ppf> the dns has to be authoritative for a domain
[16:24] <ppf> not an ip
[16:24] <leftyfb> ppf: not for PTR records. PTR records don't care who owns the domain
[16:25] <tomreyn> ppf: for a mail server, you want both forward and reverse lookups to 'work', roughly spoken.
[16:25] <leftyfb> ^
[16:25] <ppf> indeed, turns out i didn't read far up enough :)
[16:25] <dnsdns> tomreyn: so you also confirm leftyfb ?
[16:25]  * rawtaz bbl
[16:25] <tomreyn> dnsdns: of course
[16:25] <ppf> dnsdns: yes, they're right
[16:26] <dnsdns> ok thanks guys. thanks a lot.
[16:26] <dnsdns> specially you leftyfb
[16:27] <tomreyn> faLUCE: hey faLUCE. not every wireless chipset can work as an AP. have you verified that yours can?
[16:27] <faLUCE> leftleg_: ipv4 settings is shared, ipv6 is ignored.
[16:27] <RandomTech> Does anyone know of a Distributed storage solution that i can bind /home to
[16:28] <faLUCE> tomreyn: yes, I used to use it as AP, it stopped working since some weeks
[16:28] <RandomTech> I basically want each blade to share there storage with eachother
[16:28] <tomreyn> faLUCE: so what happened some weeks ago?
[16:28] <faLUCE> tomreyn: dunno
[16:29] <leftyfb> RandomTech: you've already asked the question and were given an adequate answer
[16:30] <faLUCE> here's the syslog:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/npYryMGPh6/
[16:30] <RandomTech> Sorry about that i was trying to find a another option so i would have a few to compare
[16:30] <RandomTech> my bad leftyfb
[16:31] <leftyfb> RandomTech: google can also help you if you need more options then what has been given here. Constantly asking hoping for a different answer isn't the best way to go about it
[16:31] <AC`97_>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[16:32] <tomreyn> RandomTech: drbd, ceph are other options for network storage, also NBD.
[16:33] <pikapika> If it is advised to update kernel to a specific version to fix some security problem, does it generally mean its okay if my system already shows a higher number?
[16:34] <leftyfb> pikapika: depends on where you installed that kernel from. If you're concerned about such things, you should still with the HWE kernels available in the LTS releases of Ubuntu
[16:35] <leftyfb> still/stick
[16:35] <pikapika> I actually haven taken any special steps or downloaded kernel from anywhere else
[16:35] <leftyfb> pikapika: what version of ubuntu and which kernel are you running?
[16:36] <tomreyn> pikapika: if this higher number is that of the *running* (not just an installed) kernel and this running kernel is an ubuntu kernel, the chances are pretty good it's fixed there. but to be sure, you should subscribe (for free) to  https://usn.ubuntu,com
[16:37] <pikapika> Ubuntu 16.04.5 LTS
[16:37] <pikapika> Linux version 4.15.0-30-generic (buildd@lcy01-amd64-003) (gcc version 5.4.0 20160609 (Ubuntu 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.10)) #32~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 26 20:25:39 UTC 2018
[16:37] <pikapika> How to know which one is currently running?
[16:37] <leftyfb> pikapika: -31 is the latest
[16:37] <leftyfb> pikapika: uname -a
[16:37] <pikapika> the second line is from /proc/version
[16:37] <leftyfb> that'll work as well
[16:38] <faLUCE> any clue?
[16:38] <tomreyn> pikapika: cat /proc/version tells you what is currently running, uname -a, too.
[16:38] <pikapika> okay I will check out that usn thing
[16:40] <tomreyn> pikapika: there is also https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/
[16:41] <tomreyn> faLUCE: i've never setup an AP, but i assume the device would not be scanning in this mode. yours tries to scan and fails, making me think it is not operating in AP mode
[16:42] <faLUCE> tomreyn: in fact wpa_supplicant should not do anything for it
[16:42] <pikapika> tomreyn, everything says DNE or not affected, does that mean I am okay?
[16:43] <pikapika> oh wait
[16:43] <pikapika> there are numbers in some of them
[16:43] <tomreyn> pikapika: yes, if you looked up the right package and version on the correct release.
[16:44] <faLUCE> tomreyn: should I disable wpa_supplicant for that interface?
[16:45] <tomreyn> faLUCE: i don't know, it might be needed for client authentication, but i'm really not into APs
[16:49] <tomreyn> faLUCE: so which chipset do you have there?
[16:51] <faLUCE> tomreyn: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0bda:8176 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188CUS 802.11n WLAN Adapter
[17:04] <jonfatino> Question here on pxe booting ubuntu livecd. So right now I have kernel = http bla   and initrd = http bla   and then  for args I have the following.   imgargs vmlinuz boot=casper netboot=http fetch=http://10.10.10.10/boot_templates/ubuntu_test/filesystem.squashfs
[17:05] <jonfatino> Anyone have a guide or know how to pack the squashfs file system into initrd so it doesn't have to get networking online and then download squashfs seperately?
[17:05] <ppf> how do i install a specific version of a package?
[17:05] <jonfatino> ipxe can just download kerenl (vmlinux) and initird and boom done
[17:05] <ppf> if the package has dependencies of its own, apt install pkg=version fails
[17:06] <Tycale>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[17:07] <ppf> i'm on xenial and i'd like to downgrade gcc
[17:10] <faLUCE> Hello (Ubuntu 18.04).  I created a hotspot wi-fi connection on an usb dongle with network-manager (GUI). I can see the hotspot in list, and my android device sees it as well. However, my android device can't connect to it (generic error)... what can I check in order to fix that? thanks
[17:10] <faLUCE> here's the syslog:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/npYryMGPh6/   .  It seems that it (unsuccessfully) calls wpa_supplicant (why??)
[17:18] <frazr> Hi there folks, anyone know of a tool that can visualize output from lets say a cronjob running iostat/vmstat once per hour or something like that? :)
[17:19] <frazr> Dont want to complicate things with metrics exporting for this machine
[17:21] <faLUCE> it seems that network-manager has messed up. In fact it shows an old connection (after booting) which I can't edit and I can't remove
[17:21] <ppf> frazr: how about prometheus
[17:21] <faLUCE> is there a way to purge network manager to its default?
[17:23] <frazr> ppf: yeah i want something simpler for this machine, kinda new i would get that answer, dont want to be running node-exporter on this machine, just some simple collecting of those commands
[17:24] <frazr> s/new/knew :)
[17:24] <koichirose> Hello! I just upgraded to 18.04 from 16.04 and something is wrong with the repositories. When I launch apt update I get:   Unknown error executing apt-key. This happens for archive.ubuntu.com repositories as well as custom ones. I googled and tried everything possible but can’t fix it…
[17:24] <ppf> frazr: what does 'visualize' mean then?
[17:25] <ppf> like, just export the output to a file and serve it in a webserver ?
[17:25] <frazr> like basic charts , generated html or something like that
[17:25] <frazr> basically yea
[17:26] <frazr> could write some stuff with the help of highcharts or something myself, but dont want to spend the time, should exist something like this
[17:33] <tomreyn> faLUCE: you can edit connection profiles using nmcli, this should still work when the GUI fails. last option is to remove configurations off /etc/NetworkManager (yes, mixed case :-( ) and to systemctl restart network-manager.service
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> koichirose: can you hastebin the full output to the channel please, volunteers might take a look for you
[17:34] <koichirose> lotuspsychje: here is the output of apt update: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RxNR26BP9y/
[17:34] <zap_> hall
[17:34] <tomreyn> frazr: sounds like you'Re in the process of reinventing munin
[17:34] <oswald> Hello i have a question, i am trying to bind multimedia keys to my i3wm, and online i find ppl using 'playerctl' but apperently thats not installed on my default unbuntu. My question is: what does ubuntu 18.04 use by defualt?(which command in terminal to change song/pause)
[17:35] <jwhisnant> frazr: or collectd or etcd or graphite or grafana or ...
[17:35] <faLUCE> tomreyn: let me check
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> koichirose: your sources are full with external ppa's, we dont support those here mate
[17:36] <garrettkajmowicz> I've installed Ubuntu 18.04 in a VirtualBox VM. I'm attempting and failing to collect a core dump. I get the initial panic on the console, but then the system hangs rather than attempting to load the dump kernel. I followed this guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/kernel-crash-dump.html.en
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> koichirose: best you can do is revert your system to vanila ubuntu with ppapurge
[17:36] <garrettkajmowicz> What can I do to get working kernel core dumps?
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> oswald: have you tryed the #i3 channel?
[17:36] <koichirose> lotuspsychje: updating from 16.04 to 18.04 disabled my external PPAs and I had that issue anyway. It doesn’t seem related
[17:38] <oswald> lotuspsychje: actually i'm new to IRC aswell if you could tell me how to join :D that would be great,
[17:38] <oswald> i'm using XChat btw
[17:38] <tomreyn> koichirose: can you show the output of: dpkg -l apt gnupg; apt-key list
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> oswald: surely mate, type /join #i3
[17:39] <zap_> hi
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> !xchat | oswald see also
[17:40] <koichirose> tomreyn: here https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K78nw2C6Mn/
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> koichirose: hmm getting a 404 on http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security
[17:45] <koichirose> lotuspsychje: I’m not, I can see this: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-security/
[17:46] <faLUCE> tomreyn: in another channel they told me to check if dhcp server is installed for that hotspot
[17:46] <ceibal> hola
[17:46] <faLUCE> tomreyn: (meanwhile I cleaned the messed previous connections)
[17:46] <ceibal> hola q ase
[17:46] <ceibal> puto
[17:46] <ceibal> pii
[17:46] <oswald_> why can't i join #i3
[17:48] <tomreyn> koichirose: also the output of this please: sha256sum /usr/bin/gpg /usr/bin/gpgv /usr/bin/apt-key
[17:48] <frazr> tomreyn thanks, checking out munin, but seems like the simplest option would just be to install prometheus-node-exporter and go with those metrics :P
[17:48] <tomreyn> koichirose: actually this first: sudo apt-get update -o Debug::Acquire::gpgv=true 2>&1
[17:49] <tomreyn> frazr: probably a better option, yes, miunin is oooold and sloooow.
[17:49] <jamies> I try to click the system settings in Unity to change my desktop resolution and it keeps logging me out of the session and sending me back to the login manager
[17:49] <jamies> Any suggestions for logs to check for errors?
[17:49] <frazr> tomreyn: :) thanks anyway
[17:49] <koichirose> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FXsGc99h9j/
[17:50] <koichirose> and the sha256sum output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Jzsw9HbMGy/
[17:50] <tomreyn> faLUCE: you'll also need hostapd installed if you haven't, but none of those should cause the error messages you have logged.
[17:50] <faLUCE> tomreyn: damn, hostapd was not installed
[17:51] <faLUCE> let me install it
[17:52] <ledeni> jamies: try run 'gnome-control-center' in terminal
[17:55] <faLUCE> tomreyn: after installing the issue remains
[17:55] <faLUCE> ...
[17:57] <tomreyn> faLUCE: yes, as expected. i'm not the right person to help with the hotspot / AP, sorry.
[17:58] <jonfatino> *sigh* #ubuntu get your stuff together. Update casper to include fetch=http:// bla  filesystem.squashfs   Debian has had this for years and there are merge requests pending
[17:58] <jonfatino> https://pastebin.com/raw/V6W39XJu
[18:00] <tomreyn> koichirose: interesting issue. can you run this again, then hit ctrl-c pretty quickly and see if you end up with files which match (ls) /tmp/apt* ?   sudo apt-get update -o Debug::Acquire::gpgv=true
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> faLUCE: can this help https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-wireless-adhoc.html
[18:02] <spinningCat> can you suggest me good irc client except hexchat and kvirc?
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> spinningCat: weechat, irssi
[18:03] <koichirose> tomreyn: I have three of them: apt.conf.mmuxas,  apt.data.ISSz1G, apt.sig.l0B3Az
[18:03] <koichirose> do you want me to paste their contents?
[18:04] <tomreyn> koichirose: very well, when you run " ls -l /tmp/apt* " do they have very close timestamps? just seconds apart?
[18:05] <faLUCE> lotuspsychje: I have two network cards. 1) usb dongle  2) the mobo's one
[18:05] <koichirose> tomreyn: I’d say they’ve been created at the exact same time
[18:05] <faLUCE> lotuspsychje: I use Lubuntu and I don't see the menu you linked
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> faLUCE: right, thats the guide for ubuntu-desktop
[18:06] <tomreyn> koichirose: please show the output of: sudo -u _apt /usr/bin/apt-key --readonly verify /tmp/apt.sig* /tmp/apt.data* ; echo $?
[18:10] <koichirose> tomreyn: with the last “?”?
[18:10] <koichirose> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gynjCQPxTz/
[18:10] <meem> Hi
[18:10] <n0t3py> Hi :)
[18:11] <tomreyn> koichirose: yes, looks like you did so
[18:11] <meem> how can i join channels with # ?? it says my name is owned by another user ?
[18:11] <n0t3py> meem, type /join #channel
[18:12] <meem> n0t3py i didt join the channel but i can't chat :(
[18:14] <meem> n0t3py it says i can't send to channel ##
[18:14] <n0t3py> hmm
[18:14] <leftyfb> meem: go to #freenode for support with joining other channels
[18:14] <leftyfb> meem: type: /join #freenode
[18:14] <meem> Ok
[18:15] <n0t3py> i dont know, but I think authority is required.
[18:15] <meem> thanks
[18:15] <tomreyn> koichirose: pastebinit <( set +e; sudo apt-get update -o Debug::Acquire::gpgv=true 2>&1; set -e; )
[18:15] <tomreyn> koichirose: ^ please also run this
[18:16] <Guest37687>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[18:16] <koichirose> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dJ6pFJrmpR/ (I’ve been copying and pasting this whole time, not knowing about pastebinit -.-)
[18:16] <n0t3py> Because you can write on this channel, this mean you have got different problems. Please join to freenode help channel
[18:16] <FortunateSon> Soooooo what's the status on all this IRC spam?  Anyone know?
[18:17] <koichirose> should it show something else next to Good, Bad, etc?
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> FortunateSon: question for #freenode
[18:18] <FortunateSon> lotuspsychje: yeah, you're probably right.
[18:18] <n0t3py> ok, good by :)
[18:19] <tomreyn> koichirose: sorry, should have told you about pastebinit. i was actually hoping it would say more than nothing for Good / Bad, yes
[18:20] <johnlage11>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[18:20] <koichirose> tomreyn: what can I do? :(
[18:21] <tomreyn> koichirose: does this work around it? sudo apt clean; sudo apt-get update
[18:21] <koichirose> tomreyn: nope, tried a lot of times
[18:22] <koichirose> I read something about moving my trusted.gpg files, but maybe I did it wrong. Do you know something about it?
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> koichirose: see also #ubuntu-mirrors perhaps they have a clue?
[18:23] <koichirose> ok
[18:25] <new_user> If I use an Hard drive enclosure for a laptop's hardrive, should I use USB2.0 or USb3.0? Is usb 3.0 gonna fry my hard disk if I plug it in USB3.0 port?
[18:25] <tomreyn> koichirose: can you please: sudo apt-key del 'C47415DFF48C09645B78609416126D3A3E5C1192'; sudo apt-key fingerprint 'C47415DFF48C09645B78609416126D3A3E5C1192'; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update
[18:26] <fs683> Hi ppl
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> fs683: welcome, how can we help you today?
[18:26] <koichirose> del: OK, fingerprint: no output, update: same issue
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> new_user: more a ##hardware question, but no wont fry
[18:27] <tomreyn> koichirose: can you please: dpkg -l gnup\* gpg\* | pastebinit
[18:28] <koichirose> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mKjW5VSrxH/
[18:28] <new_user> thanks, lotuspsychje . I will ask it in hardware too. By the way, a shopkeeper told me to buy usb2.0 as my laptop's hard drive was old(320 GB) and said if I buy usb3.0 it could fry the hard disk
[18:30] <tomreyn> koichirose: i assume if you "sudo apt purge gnupg-agent" the "sudo apt-get update" output doesn't improve either?
[18:31] <koichirose> tomreyn: I’m not sure it actually purges it. I’m stuck with an incomplete samba, winbind install, everything I run gives me errors
[18:34] <tomreyn> koichirose: hmm well we can probably find you a workaround, but i hoped we could find the root cause and understand what's happening.
[18:34] <tomreyn> koichirose: the only workaround i can think of right now is insecure, though.
[18:35] <koichirose> maybe I’d better reinstall everything
[18:35] <tomreyn> namely not verifying packages you'll install over this plain http connection from some pretty random ubuntu mirrors
[18:35] <koichirose> I already did 14.04 - 16.04
[18:35] <koichirose> right
[18:35] <koichirose> well, let’s try that
[18:35] <tomreyn> can you post a bug report first, please?
[18:36] <tomreyn> this really isn't a good situation and i'f like this to be looked into more, especially if it happens to someone else, too
[18:36] <koichirose> sure
[18:36] <koichirose> do you want me to write something in particular'
[18:36] <koichirose> ?
[18:37] <tomreyn> koichirose: please run ubuntu-bug apt
[18:37] <koichirose> This is not an official Ubuntu package. Please remove any third party package and try again.
[18:37] <tomreyn> koichirose: you should explain what the situation is for you / what the impact is
[18:38] <koichirose> is there a way to temporarily disable third party ppas?
[18:38] <tomreyn> koichirose: which command reported the above message?
[18:38] <tomreyn> koichirose: not really, not if you can't do a successful apt run.
[18:39] <tomreyn> * apt update
[18:39] <koichirose> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RDhYd3pvP4/
[18:42] <nemo_> hi
[18:42] <tomreyn> koichirose: try this: APPORT_IGNORE_OBSOLETE_PACKAGES=1 ubuntu-bug apt
[18:43] <koichirose> same
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> nemo_: welcome, how can we help you?
[18:44] <tomreyn> koichirose: sudo apt-get --allow-unauthenticated reinstall apt
[18:45] <koichirose> tomreyn E: Invalid operation reinstall
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> koichirose: you scrambled your system good :p
[18:45] <tomreyn> koichirose: my bad: sudo apt-get --allow-unauthenticated --reinstall install apt
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> koichirose: i would still try reverting to vanilla without external ppa's
[18:46] <koichirose> Reinstallation of apt is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[18:46] <tomreyn> sudo apt-get --allow-unauthenticated update; sudo apt-get --allow-unauthenticated --reinstall install apt
[18:47] <Faux_Lord> tomreyn: I want to see if the issue depends on a messed up installation. Then I want to try a live usb of 18.04. Can I configure a hotspot from a live usb?
[18:47] <koichirose> tomreyn: same issue
[18:47] <mustmodify> What log would I check for evidence that a process grew too large and was killed?
[18:47] <tomreyn> Faux_Lord: are you the same person as koichirose ?
[18:48] <koichirose> nope
[18:48] <Faux_Lord> tomreyn: sorry, I was faLUCE
[18:48] <mustmodify> A process obviously restarted itself or was restarted 10 minutes ago. I'm looking for any clue about why.
[18:48] <tomreyn> Faux_Lord: might work from a live usb, but i'd rather use a proper indtallation
[18:50] <LukeTenU> Hello there. I've an Ubuntu Server 18.04.1 with Samba. everything worked fine until i noticed that i'm only allowed to read stuff. so i read trough the smb.conf and added my username. my problem was solved. but when i want to add my server to windows it's not asking for a password anymore
[18:50] <tomreyn> koichirose: sudo rgrep '' /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list 2>&1 | pastebinit
[18:51] <tomreyn> koichirose: do you happen to have a luanchpad.net account?
[18:51] <tomreyn> * launchpad.net
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> LukeTenU: system up to date? cause there's a recent samba security flaw out
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> !usn | LukeTenU
[18:51] <koichirose> tomreyn: no, I don’t. http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bvptdKVqDX/
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> LukeTenU: see also #ubuntu-server & #samba
[18:52] <mustmodify> I don't mean to be pushy but I have an issue in production here with 300+ users, so any thoughts about investigating this issue would be appreciated.
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> mustmodify: details of your issue please?
[18:54] <mustmodify> Web server/service (puma) restarted itself. I'm looking for evidence of why. What logs that might be in, or any other thoughts.
[18:54] <mustmodify> Could be a memory leak? Could be ... uh...
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> mustmodify: ubuntu server? version? kernel?
[18:55] <mustmodify> Under what conditions would Ubuntu 18 restart a process and where would I look for evidence of that. That's my question.
[18:55] <tomreyn> koichirose: canyou comment out the mariadb entry in /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:55] <tomreyn> koichirose: last line there
[18:55] <koichirose> done
[18:56] <ph88> when is the 4.16 kernel coming to ubuntu 18.04 ?
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | ph88
[18:56] <tomreyn> koichirose: and also mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/Flirc_repo.list{,.disabled_ubuntuirc} /etc/apt/sources.list.d/transmissionbt-ubuntu-ppa-bionic.list{,.disabled_ubuntuirc}
[18:57] <nacc> ph88: 18.04 won't ever get the 4.16 kernel, afaik
[18:57] <mustmodify> Sorry, I'm on 16.04. Linux adaline 4.4.0-1057-aws #66-Ubuntu SMP Thu May 3 12:49:47 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:58] <koichirose> tomreyn: done
[18:58] <koichirose> now I only have default repositories
[18:58] <nacc> mustmodify: is puma run as a systemd service?
[18:58] <mustmodify> yes
[18:58] <mustmodify> nacc: yes.
[18:58] <ph88> nacc, wow really ? where did you get that information ?
[18:59] <mustmodify> Oh, duh, /var/log/service-name
[18:59] <tomreyn> koichirose: any improvement on "sudo apt-get update" and "ubuntu-bug apt" now?
[18:59] <mustmodify> or... right
[19:00] <tomreyn> koichirose: also please post: ls -la /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ | pastebinit
[19:00] <nacc> ph88: where did you get any different information? ubuntu releases don't change the kernel during their lifetime. HWE stacks get introduced.
[19:00] <FreeBDSM> where to whine to make some package get uploaded to ubuntu repos?
[19:00] <nacc> ph88: except in some very extreme cases, iirc
[19:01] <nacc> FreeBDSM: not here -- what package, etc.?
[19:01] <FreeBDSM> nacc: sc-im
[19:02] <mustmodify> nacc: Well this isn't super-helpful. It says "/home/production/scripts/saw-http: line 14: 24820 Killed                  bundle exec puma -C /home/production/<project name>/current/config/puma.production.config "
[19:02] <FreeBDSM> nacc: https://github.com/andmarti1424/sc-im/
[19:02] <luketenu> euhm.. howto get into #samba :'D
[19:03] <koichirose> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nWNsJTdvyQ/ - no improvements
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> luketenu: register and /j #samba
[19:04] <tomreyn> koichirose: can you /join #ubuntu-hardened
[19:07] <garrettkajmowicz> I've installed Ubuntu 18.04 in a VirtualBox VM. I'm attempting and failing to collect a core dump. I get the initial panic on the console, but then the system hangs rather than attempting to load the dump kernel. How might I go about getting kernel core dumps working? I followed this guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/kernel-crash-dump.html.en
[19:10] <elichai2> Hey, I'm trrying to upgrade to 18.04 but I get: `Your python install is corrupted. Please fix the '/usr/bin/python' `
[19:10] <elichai2> altough it seems just fine: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/q2K4CsVWSr/
[19:12] <ioria> it's not fine
[19:13] <elichai2> why? because I use the alternatives?
[19:13] <ioria> sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/bin/python
[19:13] <elichai2> why can't I use this?
[19:15] <elichai2> Just checked, and that's my hierarchy `/usr/bin/python -> /etc/alternatives/python -> /usr/bin/python2 -> /usr/bin/python2.7`
[19:15] <nacc> FreeBDSM: so a totally new package? someone needs to do the work of packaging it.
[19:16] <FreeBDSM> nacc: can't it be taken from freebsd?
[19:16] <nacc> FreeBDSM: ... no.
[19:17] <nacc> FreeBDSM: that is basically nonsensical.
[19:17] <FreeBDSM> why?
[19:17] <FreeBDSM> they use makefiles too
[19:17] <nacc> FreeBDSM: if you don't understand what a deb is, this isn't worth discussing further.
[19:17] <nacc> FreeBDSM: you could consider making a snap i suppose
[19:17] <FreeBDSM> snaps are shit
[19:18] <nacc> FreeBDSM: please watch your language in this channel.
[19:18] <FreeBDSM> what?
[19:18] <nacc> FreeBDSM: no cursing in this channel.
[19:18] <FreeBDSM> why?
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> !guidelines | FreeBDSM
[19:18] <nacc> mustmodify: i don't know enough about your service; you could look in syslog or dmesg to see if the kernel is what killed puma
[19:19] <FreeBDSM> lame
[19:19] <FreeBDSM> no one reads that sh1t
[19:19] <nacc> FreeBDSM: alright, enjoy your day.
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: remain professional please, with this attitude nobody wont help you
[19:19] <mustmodify> nacc: I think I found a memory leak. :(
[19:21] <FreeBDSM> how to say sh1t politely?
[19:21] <ioria> stuff
[19:21] <FreeBDSM> snaps are stuff
[19:21] <ioria> hehehe
[19:22] <drager> Hey, how much space is needed to upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04?
[19:22] <ioria> drager, paste your   df -h
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> drager: did you receive the upgrade window?
[19:24] <drager> ioria: I'm not on that computer atm but it's about 7.5 GB left for my home
[19:24] <drager> lotuspsychje: I have not
[19:24] <nacc> drager: home is not super relevant to the upgrade, it's root disk space (and possibly /tmp)
[19:24] <ioria> drager, what about your root ?
[19:24] <nacc> mustmodify: could be, that would make sense as to the killed
[19:24] <drager> Yeah alright, pretty I got almost 8 GB in total left or something
[19:25] <ioria> no good
[19:25] <HoloIRCUser3> What is the channel name for hardware related stuff?
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> HoloIRCUser3: ##hardware
[19:25] <drager> So how much do I need to remove in order to upgrade? :P
[19:25] <ioria> drager, we cannot know... make some room
[19:26] <HoloIRCUser3> Lotuspsychje: it is not working
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> HoloIRCUser3: you need to register first
[19:26] <drager> ioria: Okey, thanks!
[19:26] <ioria> drager, in theosy, the upgrade should tell you
[19:27] <ioria> *theory
[19:27] <pragmaticenigma> drager: The amount of disk space required is dependent on the number of applications you have installed. If you are running low on disk space, try removing seldom used applications. That will reduce the amount of space required for the upgrade
[19:27] <drager> ioria: Oh, right. Forgot that. Thanks
[19:27] <ioria> drager, it's ok
[19:28] <drager> pragmaticenigma: Ah, thanks
[19:29] <pragmaticenigma> drager: Another important suggestion, back up your data before starting the upgrade. The upgrade tool is very careful during the upgrade process, but it would be better to have a backup to ensure everything goes smoothly
[19:30] <ImageJPEG> Anyone know git? #git is slow af today
[19:31] <tomreyn> koichirose: can you also post this:  sudo bash -c 'sha256sum {/usr/,}{s,}bin/{apt,gpg,gnupg}*'
[19:31] <drager> pragmaticenigma: Thank you!
[19:31] <lotuspsychje> ImageJPEG: not really an ubuntu question
[19:32] <koichirose> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/D249PMFzDJ/
[19:34] <tomreyn> koichirose: dmesg looks fine aside from those i915 / mesa issues about 'Set TMDS ratio failed' (which would be worth looking into, but that's not so urgent, and most likely unrelated)
[19:35] <koichirose> tomreyn: yes, seems to be video related
[19:38] <tomreyn> koichirose: those binaries all have the proper checksums
[19:39] <tomreyn> koichirose: you could also "apt-get purge apt-offline", i dont think its getting in the way, but just in cawse
[19:39] <tomreyn> *case
[19:42] <koichirose> tomreyn: I think everything apt-related fails: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QKMCZk6kG3/
[19:43] <lvrp16> hmmm nouveau breaks ca-certificates package
[19:43] <lvrp16> as soon as I blacklist nouveau and update-initramfs
[19:43] <lvrp16> the problem goes away
[19:43] <lvrp16> #strange
[19:43] <lvrp16> this is on 18.04
[19:44] <tomreyn> koichirose: sudo dpkg --purge apt-offline; sudo apt-get -o AllowUnauthenticated=true update
[19:45] <koichirose> done. I got “Purging configuration files for apt-offline (1.8.1) …” among the usual output
[19:45] <tomreyn> koichirose: so apt-get update still returned errors?
[19:45] <koichirose> yes, the usual “  Unknown error executing apt-key”
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> lvrp16: wich nvidia driver version?
[19:46] <lvrp16> lotuspsychje: i am still debugging it, i will double check because sometimes it will pass randomly
[19:46] <lvrp16> running the bugger a few more times
[19:47] <keithn9>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[19:47] <Xtreme> Hello Everyone
[19:47] <ncuptea> hello to
[19:47] <tomreyn> koichirose: rm /var/lib/apt/list/partial/{mirror.vpsfree.cz,packagecloud.io,ppa.launchpad.net}*; ls -l /var/lib/apt/list/ | pastebinit
[19:47] <Xtreme> I am facing a weird issue on my laptop. I am Nvidia optimus graphic.
[19:47] <Xtreme> After fresh install, everything works fine. No problem. as long as I am on intel graphic.
[19:47] <Xtreme> The moment i install nvidia drivers, everything goes haywire.
[19:48] <Xtreme> frequent system freezes
[19:48] <Xtreme> specially on video calls.
[19:48] <koichirose> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zqsPm9Rmqk/
[19:48] <Xtreme> I am install latest nvidia driver now from ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[19:48] <Xtreme> And I might need your help. :)
[19:49] <Xtreme> I face this problem only on Ubuntu. Not on Fedora.
[19:49] <Apachez> does the intel-microcode package in ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS cover for this which intel released today?  https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/security-center/advisory/intel-sa-00161.html
[19:49] <spinningCat> i am doing chown -R username file told me username is invalid
[19:49] <spinningCat> but i logged in the system with that username
[19:49] <Apachez> ii  intel-microcode                            3.20180425.1~ubuntu0.18.04.2                amd64        Processor microcode firmware for Intel CPUs
[19:51] <tomreyn> Apachez: here's what's currently known: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/L1TF
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> !chown | spinningCat
[19:53] <spinningCat> i suppose chown is for changing owner of file right?
[19:54] <nacc> spinningCat: yes
[19:57] <tomreyn> koichirose: sorry this command had a typo. please do this: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/{mirror.vpsfree.cz,packagecloud.io,ppa.launchpad.net}*; ls -la /var/lib/apt/lists/ 2>&1 | pastebinit
[19:57] <koichirose> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vBsC3gTqqJ/
[19:58] <spinningCat> why it told me it is invalid user i dont understand this is the user i logged in
[19:58] <spinningCat> gow can i check the user list? Is there a file that enlish user on the system?
[19:58] <Trel> What would be the path for the system-wide xinitrc file in Ubunut?
[19:59] <tomreyn> koichirose: and "sudo apt-get update" still fails?
[19:59] <koichirose> tomreyn: yes
[20:00] <tomreyn> koichirose: i'm afraid i have no idea how to carry on from here.
[20:00] <ncuptea> sometime i'am forget about command would i use, its natural case and same like other user or just me newbie?
[20:00] <tomreyn> koichirose: i.e. i can only recommend a reinstall
[20:00] <koichirose> tomreyn: that’s ok. I will reinstall everything as soon as I can
[20:00] <koichirose> thank you very much for your help :)
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> koichirose: can you install ppapurge?
[20:00] <Apachez> tomreyn: thanks
[20:01] <Apachez> for those who wonder what the above intel vuln is:
[20:01] <Apachez> Foreshadow is a speculative execution attack on Intel processors which allows an attacker to steal sensitive information stored inside personal computers or third party clouds. Foreshadow has two versions, the original attack designed to extract data from SGX enclaves and a Next-Generation version which affects Virtual Machines (VMs), hypervisors (VMM), operating system (OS) kernel memory, and System Management Mode (SMM) memory.
[20:01] <tomreyn> koichirose: welcome.i just hope it's not going to affect more people (16.04 -> 18.04 was just enabled last night)
[20:01] <nacc> Apachez: while nice, please blast the channel. The above URL has sufficient information.
[20:01] <koichirose> lotuspsychje: sure, then what?
[20:01] <nacc> *please don't blast...
[20:01] <tomreyn> koichirose: but so far it's "just" you, even though this doesn't help you much ;)
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> koichirose: clean all your external ppa's
[20:02] <koichirose> tomreyn: oh. I should have waited more than 18.04.1
[20:02] <tomreyn> lotuspsychje: we did this
[20:02] <compdoc> Apachez, how would a person get infected with that?
[20:02] <tomreyn> koichirose: no, it should be fine to upgrade now
[20:02] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: with ppapurge or just sources.list?
[20:02] <nacc> compdoc: it's not an "infection" and please read the above URL.
[20:02] <Apachez> compdoc: infected?
[20:02] <tomreyn> lotuspsychje: just sources.list, no apt command works
[20:02] <nacc> Apachez: another reason not to put a ton of text in the channel :)
[20:02] <Apachez> compdoc: you have an account at a VPS for example that runs linux and have intel cpus
[20:02] <compdoc> how ould a person be attacked?
[20:02] <teward> compdoc: not a virus.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/L1TF
[20:03] <Apachez> and hey presto one VPS user suddently access data from another VPS user
[20:03] <nacc> compdoc: please, just read the KB article and the many public articles about it now.
[20:03] <compdoc> so someone needs access
[20:03] <Apachez> and the security boundaries of both the cpu AND the os is being bypassed
[20:03] <Apachez> as in "oh f**k not again!?" :)
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> koichirose: how about, recoverymode/fix broken packages, would that work?
[20:03] <canaima_> hola
[20:04] <Apachez> compdoc: https://foreshadowattack.eu/#demo
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> !es | canaima_
[20:04] <koichirose> lotuspsychje: how do I do that?
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> koichirose: you still on xenial?
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | koichirose
[20:04] <koichirose> no, I’m on bionic
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> ah not sure from bionic koichirose
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> anyway bbl
[20:04] <koichirose> system boots, almost everything is fine, except apt
[20:05] <nacc> koichirose: sorry, i wasn't following along. What happens with apt?
[20:05] <koichirose> nacc: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1065373/apt-update-fails-after-upgrade-to-18-04
[20:06] <nacc> koichirose: have you rebooted since the upgrade?
[20:07] <koichirose> nacc: sure, countless times
[20:07] <tomreyn> nacc: there's plenty of channel log here on this issue to read up on if you feel like it ;-)
[20:07] <nacc> koichirose: the paste in that AU is truncated (the top starts with 2:)
[20:07] <koichirose> the upgrade failed, I think while updating the kernel. Then I managed to install a kernel manually and complete the upgrade, with that apt error
[20:07] <musicguy> HeIIo guyss, I am yrics professionaI bot
[20:07] <musicguy> Type one of the foIIowing commands to display the Iyrics of that song
[20:08] <musicguy> List of commandz: !despacito, !rickroll (never gonna give you up), !stilldre
[20:08] <filo> !stilldre
[20:08] <musicguy>  Now l'm singing in a channel, please wait
[20:08] <musicguy> Yeah nigga
[20:08] <nacc> filo: please don't.
[20:08] <musicguy> I'm still fucking with ya
[20:08] <filo> A
[20:08] <musicguy> Still waters run deep
[20:08] <musicguy> Still Snoop Dogg and D-R-E, '99 nigga
[20:08] <filo> Nacc: not my bot
[20:08] <teward> well, that happened.
[20:09] <koichirose> nacc: you’re right, must have missed a line
[20:09] <musicguy> HeIIo guyss, I am yrics professionaI bot
[20:09] <musicguy> Type one of the foIIowing commands to display the Iyrics of that song
[20:09] <musicguy> List of commandz: !despacito, !rickroll (never gonna give you up), !stilldre
[20:09] <paip> Guys
[20:09] <pragmaticenigma> !ops | musicguy returned and controlled by paip
[20:09] <paip> !despacito
[20:09] <musicguy> Now I'm singing in a channel, pIease wait
[20:10] <musicguy> Hay
[20:10] <musicguy> Fonsi!
[20:11] <tomreyn> 3...2...1...
[20:12] <nacc> koichirose: have you tried running apt-key manually at all?
[20:14] <koichirose> nacc: of course: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/V9kmxsvSNd/
[20:14] <koichirose> this is the output right now. I think it was slightly different before, without the “3 signatures” warning
[20:16] <T3ll0ll3t> lol
[20:17] <nacc> koichirose: have you tried net-update? not update.
[20:17] <koichirose> nacc: ? apt net-update?
[20:18] <nacc> koichirose: and/or can you pastebin `sudo apt-key list` ?
[20:19] <koichirose> nacc: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DcqzQZWC9M/
[20:20] <T3ll0ll3t> what is the function ?
[20:21] <nacc> koichirose: hrm; sorry, i thought we'd see something more obvious
[20:21] <nacc> T3ll0ll3t: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:22] <koichirose> nacc: I think tomreyn had me try everything possible :) I’ll try a fresh install maybe tomorrow
[20:22] <nacc> koichirose: yeah seems best, sorry
[20:24] <T3ll0ll3t> nacc: no
[20:26] <nacc> T3ll0ll3t: ok, then please take chitchat elsewhere (e.g. #ubuntu-offtopic)
[20:29] <koichirose> thank you tomreyn, nacc, I’ll let you know if I have issues with a fresh install :)
[20:31] <Sircle> -bash: do-release-upgrade: command not found
[20:32] <Sircle> whats wrong?
[20:32] <nacc> Sircle: are you running ubuntu?
[20:32] <Sircle> yes
[20:32] <nacc> Sircle: do you have ubuntu-release-upgrader-core installed?
[20:32] <Sircle> no
[20:33] <nacc> Sircle: then you don't have the tools to help with upgrades
[20:33] <nacc> Sircle: and you presumably uinstalled some core metapackage
[20:33] <Sircle> working now
[20:33] <Sircle> I just installed. thx
[20:36] <ph88> if i install a kernel from mainline will it update on the minor versions ? can i also go back to the kernel that comes with ubuntu ?
[20:39] <brainwash> ph88: it will be installed side by side, so going back should not be a problem. however, you will have update/install new minor versions manually
[20:42] <brainwash> ph88: the tool "Ubuntu Kernel Update Utility" may be something you want https://github.com/teejee2008/ukuu
[20:42] <pizzaburger> Hi! No control over media keys in i3 desktop. Adding this (https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Q9fDXPYFrk/) in ~/i3/config didn't work. Also tried 'amixer sset 'Master' on'. Now there's no sound in either i3 or LXDE. Running Lubuntu 18.04. Any advice? Thanks!
[20:43] <ph88> brainwash, at the next dist update (18.10) can i get rid of the mainline kernels and go back to the dist kernel ?
[20:44] <brainwash> ph88: why shouldn't you be able to?
[20:44] <ph88> just like to have confirmation
[20:45] <brainwash> in any case, it's always very helpful to have at least one working kernel installed
[20:46] <brainwash> that helps with the booting :)
[20:46] <elichai2> Hey, I'm upgrading to 18.04 and it's stuck on `Setting up linux-headers-4.15.0-31-generic (4.15.0-31.33) ...`
[20:47] <pragmaticenigma> elichai2: How long have you been waiting?
[20:47] <pragmaticenigma> elichai2: also what is your system specifications?
[20:47] <elichai2> arround 5 minutes
[20:48] <elichai2> hmm Lenovo YOGA 720. I7-7700HQ, 16GB RAM. 512GB NVMe, Nvidia GTX 1050
[20:48] <pragmaticenigma> elichai2: is your machine plugged into a power source?
[20:48] <elichai2> yes
[20:50] <pragmaticenigma> not sure... I know sometimes the process can take awhile
[20:50] <nacc> ph88: why are you running a mainline kernel? you understand doing so means you are wholly unsupported and that you need to manually keep your kernel update for security issues?
[20:50] <elichai2> pragmaticenigma: actually that's not exactly what happened, it was stuck for a long time on `writing new private key to '/var/lib/shim-signed/mok/MOK.priv'`, so I interrupted it and had to re run `apt upgrade`
[20:50] <elichai2> pragmaticenigma: here is the full log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bSKTTZPyCg/
[20:50] <nacc> uh ... interrupting a release upgrade is never a good idea, elichai2
[20:51] <elichai2> nacc: it was stuck for 30 minutes
[20:52] <nacc> elichai2: what were you upgrading from?
[20:52] <elichai2> 17.10
[20:52] <nacc> elichai2: that's not how you upgrade 17.10
[20:52] <nacc> !eolupgrade | elichai2
[20:54] <elichai2> nacc: wait. you're saying I should've manually edited sources.list??
[20:55] <nacc> elichai2: yes. do-release-upgrade even told you this.
[20:55] <nacc> elichai2: "Your Ubuntu release is not supported anymore."
[20:55] <elichai2> that's very bad User experience
[20:55] <nacc> elichai2: uh, you chose to let your system go out of support
[20:55] <nacc> that's a very bad user :)
[20:55] <elichai2> how is it not supported anymore? it's the latest one before 18.04
[20:56] <nacc> elichai2: 17.10 was supported for 9 months, like all non-LTS releases.
[20:56] <elichai2> I couldn't immediately upgrade it because it's a development laptop
[20:56] <elichai2> nacc: yeah but that shouldn't include upgrading support
[20:56] <nacc> elichai2: what?
[20:56] <alee> I have a problem
[20:57] <nacc> elichai2: 17.10 goes eol after 9 months. You have 3 months ! to upgrade between 18.04 coming out and 17.10 going eol.
[20:57] <nacc> elichai2: you, if running a desktop, chose to ignore the messages from the upgrade tool about this.
[20:57] <alee> I havr a problem
[20:57] <nacc> !ask | alee
[20:58] <alee> It wasnt a question
[20:58] <alee> Did you see a "?"
[20:58] <alee> ?
[20:58] <nacc> alee: actually state your problem.
[20:58] <alee> Pc doesnt boot ubuntu
[20:58] <elichai2> nacc: weird. A couple of ctrl+c made the dpkg continue running again lol
[20:59] <nacc> elichai2: i would not trust the state of your system, good luck with it
[20:59] <alee> It says not synced
[20:59] <alee> Why it doesnt sync
[21:00] <alee> ?
[21:01] <alee> Anyone?
[21:01] <hggdh> alee: please explain. Even better give us the whole error message
[21:02] <hggdh> "it doesn't sync" makes not much of sense
[21:02] <alee> I cant because i cant copy paste
[21:02] <hggdh> alee: try copying by hand
[21:02] <alee> Are you kidding me?
[21:03] <alee> It's a screen of error
[21:03] <hggdh> alee: which you summarised in 3 words...
[21:04] <alee> Yes, basically it's "something not syncing something"
[21:04] <hggdh> alee: good luck with it, then
[21:04] <alee> No please
[21:04] <alee> I can try to copy it but it is very big
[21:04] <alee> The screen is full of those words
[21:05] <elichai2> nacc: in the end it will be fine. Worst case I'll need to live boot and fix it via chroot, but at the end everything will work
[21:05] <hggdh> alee: either you provide us with enough data to look at it, or stop
[21:05] <nacc> elichai2: if you say so.
[21:06] <alee> Hggdh i will copy it
[21:08] <alee> Line1: kernel offset: 0x37600000 from 0xfffffffff01000000xffffffff000000-0xfffffffbfffffff)
[21:09] <leftyfb> alee: use pastebin please
[21:09] <alee> Line 2: ---end kernel panic - not syncing: vfs unablr to mount root fs
[21:09] <alee> Thats all
[21:10] <leftyfb> alee: what version of ubuntu?
[21:10] <alee> Old
[21:10] <alee> 16
[21:10] <leftyfb> alee: cat /etc/issue
[21:10] <leftyfb> alee: what is the output of that ^
[21:11] <alee> I cant
[21:11] <alee> The pc doesnt boot
[21:12] <leftyfb> alee: what happened between the time it was running to the time it stopped booting?
[21:12] <hggdh> alee: sounds like you lost your /
[21:12] <Sircle> how to upgrade kernel
[21:12] <alee> I updated
[21:12] <leftyfb> Sircle: why do you think you need to update your kernel?
[21:13] <leftyfb> alee: updated how?
[21:13] <Sircle> ───────────────────────────────────────────────────Configuring libc6───────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
[21:13] <alee> Everything
[21:13] <Sircle>    │ Kernel must be upgraded                                                                                                    │
[21:13] <Sircle>    │                                                                                                                            │
[21:13] <Sircle>    │ This version of the GNU libc requires kernel version 3.2 or later.  Please upgrade your kernel before installing glibc.    │
[21:13] <Sircle>    │                                                                                                                            │
[21:13] <Sircle>    │                                                                                                                            │
[21:13] <nacc> Sircle: use a pastebin.
[21:13] <alee> I dont remember the exact command
[21:14] <alee> Maybe apt-get dist upgrade
[21:14] <leftyfb> Sircle: if you're running a kernel older than 3.2, then you are WAY outdated and your version of ubuntu (if it even is ubuntu) is unsupported here. I would suggest installing ubuntu 18.04 and restoring from backup
[21:14] <Sircle> k
[21:14] <leftyfb> alee: maybe try booting to a previous kernel http://karlcode.owtelse.com/blog/2017/03/13/reverting-to-a-previous-kernel/
[21:14] <Sircle> leftleg_,  I tried to upgrade from 14 but its giving me dependancy errors now
[21:15] <Sircle> what should I do now?
[21:15] <nacc> Sircle: ubuntu 14.04 does not have kernel 3.2 either.
[21:15] <nacc> Sircle: what does `lsb_release -sd` say?
[21:15] <alee> Im not a terminal expert
[21:15] <Sircle> Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS
[21:16] <nacc> Sircle: ... how about `uname -r` ?
[21:16] <leftyfb> alee: ok, then reinstall ubuntu 18.04 and restore from backup. good luck
[21:16] <alee> Guys, i dont have any problems, it was a prank
[21:16] <Sircle> 2.6.32-042stab127.2
[21:17] <leftyfb> :/
[21:17] <Sircle> install php: php : Depends: php7.2 but it is not going to be installed
[21:17] <Sircle>  rpcbind : Depends: libtirpc1 (>= 0.2.5-1.2~) but 0.2.5-1 is to be installed
[21:17] <nacc> Sircle: lol, that's not an ubuntu system.
[21:17] <Sircle> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[21:17] <nacc> Sircle: is it a VPS or something?
[21:17] <Sircle> yes
[21:17] <leftyfb> there's no VPN still running 2.6
[21:17] <leftyfb> no way
[21:17] <leftyfb> not with ubuntu 18.04 on it anyway
[21:18] <nacc> openvz i guess?
[21:18] <nacc> Sircle: --^ ?
[21:18] <leftyfb> 2.6????  Time to find a new provider
[21:18] <Sircle> its ramnode 128MB SVZ
[21:18] <Sircle> OpenVZ SSD VPS (SVZ) - NYC
[21:18] <nacc> leftyfb: yeah openvz somehow still is :)
[21:18] <nacc> Sircle: yes, you need to talk to your service provider, what you are doing is not supported here or probably by them either :)
[21:19] <leftyfb> Sircle: time to find a new provider
[21:19] <Sircle> hacc what should I tell them?
[21:19] <leftyfb> Sircle: tell them to run a kernel released in the last decade
[21:20] <Sircle> isnt the kernal of my own vps?
[21:20] <leftyfb> no, it's a shared kernel
[21:20] <leftyfb> that's how VPS's work
[21:20] <Sircle> I mean, I can upgrade the distro and not the kernel?
[21:20] <Sircle> kernel is a software..
[21:20] <Sircle> hm..
[21:21] <leftyfb> Sircle: you can only upgrade the surrounding software on an ancient kernel for so long. You have just found that limit
[21:21] <nacc> Sircle: you should understand better what a VPS is, and what the limits of VPS are.
[21:21] <Sircle> k
[21:22] <naftilos76> Hi i just installed a ubuntu 18.04 as a server (console-only) in a virtual machine in virtualbox and after struggling for a few hours i still cannot make the console size greater than 800x600 . I set GRUB_GFXMODE to various resolutions which work for a second or so when the VM reboots but it goes back to 800x600 . I also used GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX set to 'keep' without luck. Can anybody help? I used the exact same config in a ubuntu 14.04 VM and
[21:22] <naftilos76> the console resolution successfully stays at the one set in grub.
[21:23] <leftyfb> naftilos76: did you run update-grub after making your changes to grub?
[21:23] <naftilos76> yes i did - sorry forgot to mention
[21:24] <naftilos76> leftyfb: as i said the res i entered in grub works only for a sec or so when the VM starts rebooting and then goes back to 800x600
[21:25] <naftilos76> leftyfb: i even tried vbeinfo in grub prompt and all the resolutions i used are supported
[21:26] <naftilos76> Anyone? Isn't that strange? It works in 14.04 but not in 18.04!
[21:37] <garrettkajmowicz> I've installed Ubuntu 18.04 in a VirtualBox VM. I'm attempting and failing to collect a core dump. I get the initial panic on the console, but then the system hangs rather than attempting to load the dump kernel. How might I go about getting kernel core dumps working? I followed this guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/kernel-crash-dump.html.en
[21:38] <sm0rux_>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[21:44] <Dan_au25>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[21:55] <BlackDalek> does anyone know how to disable the window auto maximizing in Ubuntu 18.04.1? The effect where the window maximizes if dragged too close to a screen edge?
[22:01] <Mibix> have you guys ever seen this symbol above the clock in the gui? https://imgur.com/a/sMxKLYg
[22:09] <Dragon64> Good Afternoon. I just installed Ubuntu 18.04 and upon configuring Thunderbird for email I see my email, but also get what can best be described as large floaty emojies hover over my mail box. Anyone familiar with This? Is there somewhere I can paste a screenshot?
[22:09] <Dragon64> almost like i got a virus, but the system is brand new
[22:10] <tomreyn> Dragon64: imgur.com
[22:10] <Dragon64> ok thanks
[22:10] <guntbert> !screenshots | Dragon64
[22:12] <atlas_0x01> yo
[22:12] <Dragon64> https://imgur.com/a/UqVUv4M
[22:13] <Dragon64> i have various different ones depending on which box i click on
[22:13] <madLyfe> anyone dual boot to win 10 here?
[22:14] <guntbert> madLyfe: why don't you ask your real question?
[22:14] <Dragon64> Good Afternoon. I just installed Ubuntu 18.04 and upon configuring Thunderbird for email I see my email, but also get what can best be described as large floaty emojies hover over my mail box. Anyone familiar with This?   https://imgur.com/a/UqVUv4M
[22:15] <Dragon64> maybe putting those together will help
[22:15] <madLyfe> sorry, i was but im reading a bit more on google.
[22:15] <empoz> This might be a little more general than pure rust but in lack of google-fu on the subject and lacking general forum, but since I'll work only in rust, does any have any pointers, sites or docs regarding purely the info about low-level sound(mp3, flac) streaming? Somewhere to begin and so on, would reaclly appreciate it!
[22:16] <empoz> I.e, mp3 over TCP to another device in LAN
[22:18] <Dragon64> nevermind, sorry to bother, this appearsto be a known bug in thunderbird because of Linux font size ... Time to switch to Evolution
[22:19] <madLyfe> guntbert: its about dual booting between ubuntu and win 10 and the win10 clock getting jacked up. looks like ubuntu uses UTC and win 10 uses local time.
[22:19] <madLyfe> cant decide which one i should change. i think its more simple to force ubuntu to use local time.
[22:21] <empoz> Huehuehue, wrong channel, sorry mates
[22:22] <juni0rsk> Good. They know how to replace a character or two characters with sed. I want to replace the following text <string name = "or"> p </ string>. I want to replace the letter p with l. But the text to be replaced is dynamic, that is to say sometimes it changes from p to lp, lr. I am trying this: sed -i '6 s/lr|lp|la|p/l', but it does not work, it does not change it.
[22:40] <Mibix> hso noone has ever seen this symbol above the clock in the gui? https://imgur.com/a/sMxKLYg
[22:40] <compdoc> the red dot?
[22:42] <Mibix> yeah and the green box compdoc
[22:42] <Mibix> lol so weird
[22:44] <compdoc> do you use dropbox?
[22:45] <madLyfe> one can only change the grub boot order from nix?
[22:45] <compdoc> On my fresh 18.04 system, dropbox's icon was screwed up. but I was able to fix it
[22:46] <nacc> madLyfe: not sure what you're asking ...
[22:47] <madLyfe> im dual booting with win and im on win. i think it can only be changed from the nix environment?
[22:47] <compdoc> doubtful windows can change grub
[22:49] <Mibix> compdoc i dunno what it was
[22:49] <Mibix> i logged out and logged back in and its back to normal though lol
[22:49] <compdoc> is it 18.04?
[22:49] <compdoc> I think theres a few bugs yet
[22:52] <madLyfe> are any of you guys knowledgeable about raid setups? hardware/onboard raid 1 specifically. i switched from RAID to AHCI and i think the raid isnt raiding anymore.
[22:52] <Mibix> yeah 18.04 compdoc
[22:53] <Mibix> madLyfe well if you were using hardware raid and you switched from raid to ahci your raid controller is no longer active
[22:55] <madLyfe> but they tell you to use AHCI for your drives. so im confused. i have 2 OS SSDs(one win and one nix) and two 1TB drives in mirror. my board also has two SATA controllers that do raid.
[22:57] <Mibix> you can use ahci then use software raid
[22:58] <madLyfe> how do the raid drives take advantage of all the drive features like NCQ and SMART, etc..
[22:58] <Mibix> or like zfs or something
[22:58] <Mibix> you cant use hardware raided drives in software raid th ough
[22:58] <Mibix> you would have to put them back in raid, back them up, set up a software raid array, and copy any info back
[22:58] <Mibix> if they are OS drives i wouldnt even bother
[22:59] <Mibix> not really sure this is an ubuntu issue though hehe
[22:59] <madLyfe> nah the 1TB drives are just backup drives.
[23:00] <madLyfe> its not, im just not sure where to go for guidance.
[23:00] <madLyfe> but i need to figure it out soon because i need to add to them
[23:03] <nacc> Mibix: RAID as in motherboard raid?
[23:03] <nacc> err madLyfe --^ ?
[23:04] <nacc> madLyfe: that's fake RAID, if so and is not worth using.
[23:04] <nacc> madLyfe: a dedicated RAID controller is what you should use, or just use software raid
[23:04] <madLyfe> yeah, my mobo has 2 SATA controllers that both do raid 0 and 1. well the intel raid does more than 0 and 1 but the marvell does only 0 and 1.
[23:05] <madLyfe> can i PM you nacc since its off topic here?
[23:05] <nacc> madLyfe: you shuld check if it's fake raid or not, if it's built into the motherboard, it's probably not worth using
[23:05] <nacc> madLyfe: you want #hardware
[23:08] <madLyfe> i wont PM you if you dont want me to.
[23:14] <IntelCore> main repository, usa ?
[23:24] <ubuntu__> Ubuntu intel i5 m460 Support
[23:25] <ubuntu__> Ubuntu intel i5 m460 Supporting?
[23:25] <ubuntu__> x64
[23:25] <ubuntu__> 14.04
[23:35] <madLyfe> nacc: they kind of just said what you said. not really how to solve the problem though
[23:36] <nacc> madLyfe: i don't know what the problem is?
[23:36] <nacc> madLyfe: more than likely you just shouldn't use your mobo raid controller
[23:37] <madLyfe> well thats what im doing currently, but im also not running raid either.
[23:37] <madLyfe> need to mirror my two backup drives.
[23:38] <madLyfe> how do you do software raid when dual booting between win and ubuntu?
[23:41] <nacc> madLyfe: 'what im doing' and 'not running raid'?
[23:41] <nacc> madLyfe: you want to share a raid'd setup between windows and ubuntu?
[23:42] <madLyfe> ya
[23:42] <nacc> ok, dunno, never tried doing that
[23:42] <nacc> you'd need to use a hardware mediated RAID, yes, then
[23:49] <madLyfe> but I can't do that because I've switched the on board controller to AHCI?
[23:51] <madLyfe> what if I moved the drives to the second (Marvell) controller?
[23:52] <compdoc> usually when you eneable raid, it enables AHCI, which is a good thing. with newer boards, they can be activated seperately
[23:52] <compdoc> linux doesnt much like onboard raid, tho. also called fake raid
[23:55] <atlas_0x01> .