[15:27] @tsimonq2: why are we not using cmst? [15:40] oooh [15:40] do you offhand know their roadmap for release? [15:41] oh heck wrong channel [15:54] @wxl, Because it's a platform expectation for Ubuntu flavors to use Network Manager. [15:54] And cmst is completely incompatible and bricks networking with Network Manager. [15:55] agaida doesn't understand that we have platform expectations as an Ubuntu flavor. :P [15:56] that sucks [15:57] that said i'm on the road to figuring out this issue with running edit connections [15:57] end of the road no less [15:59] @wxl, I filed an issue upstream to make a dialog for it. [16:00] Because that's ultimately what we need. [16:03] ok so if we use upstream defaults (as of 8 years ago!) of 800x600 for the window, problem solved [16:03] well, that and exchanging xterm for qterminal [16:03] so it needs to be fixed in both nm-tray and lubuntu-default-settings [16:04] now to figure out arcanist