[03:37] New kernel is out. [03:38] !info linux-image-generic [03:38] linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.15.0.32.34 (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 15 kB [04:13] good morning to all [05:03] !ltsupgrade [05:03] Upgrades from 16.04 LTS will not be enabled until a few days after the 18.04.1 release expected in late July. [05:11] !ltsupgrade is The upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04.1 is now available, if you do not get offered for the upgrade: Press Alt+F2 and type update-manager -c into the command box. Please make a backup before upgrading. [05:11] forwarded, please test during the day [06:01] Good morning [06:26] good morning [07:11] Hey Bashing-om, lotuspsychje , ducasse [07:11] How are you all? [07:12] Does the 4.15.0-24-generic kernel have the TCP DoS vulnerability? [07:13] Not that the host running that kernel is directly connected to the internet. [07:18] hi lordievader - all well today? [07:19] dunno about that vuln, i'm afraid [07:19] Doing good here :) === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon === popey_ is now known as popey [10:02] Howdy folks [10:03] hiya BluesKaj - how goes? [10:04] Hi ducasse, doing well here, and you? [10:05] ok here, thanks - a bit chilly today [10:06] still warm here, forecast is for 27 and sunny [10:07] only 19 here [10:09] that's still comfortable [10:13] i'll take the lower for sure :D [10:13] hey BluesKaj - good visit with the kids over the weekend? [10:14] yup [10:14] daftykins, had a great time ...trying to recover :-) [10:15] altho my laptop screen crapped out [10:17] so i wasn't able to chat herein the mornings...everyone sleeps till 8 except me [10:18] doh! [10:18] heh if i got up at 8 i would shock a lot of people ;) [10:19] could have use my phone, but it's a pita to type on [10:19] used [10:19] mmm i have the same feeling, capable of SSHing to my home box to attach to screen and irssi, but don't really wanna do it :D [10:21] I have an irc client on the phone ...at least I did, can't recall the name atm, think I used it once [10:24] mmm a lot of the ones i used in the past haven't been updated in forever so are no doubt vulnerable in one way or another [10:25] '/me nods [10:33] Having a bit of silence is also nice once in a while. [10:34] mmm, some nice offline time [10:34] BluesKaj: so you're getting no picture / no backlight now on the laptop is it? [10:48] just a grey scree, or white , depends on how I move the screen away or towards me...the connection from the HW seems broken [10:48] ah yeah, iffy cable [10:48] a reseat might be enough [10:49] connected to a monitor and I get a login , but the desktop doesn't show my original settings , so there's more wrong with it than just the screen. [10:50] ooh-err [10:52] hi everyone [10:52] morn \o [10:53] hey daftykins :) [10:53] it's a veritable party already in here [10:54] Hi pauljw [10:55] hey BluesKaj :) [11:03] looking at a new phone anyway, don't think a new laptop is my future anymore [11:04] i still find they last longer :D even if the OS maintenance is greater [11:05] yeah my last 2 laptops lasted only about 5 yrs and this one crapped out right ontime :-) [11:06] were they the cheaper end of the spectrum? [11:07] well mid range for the lenovo G500, my latest...the others were HP and Acer low ends [11:11] oh i've seen a couple of those, i'd still call them low :D [11:12] plastic shell with all the bits taped inside xD [11:13] altho, i have to admit that I wasn't impressed with lenovo build quality ...the G500 has a wide range of HW options so it's price can be anywhere from $600 US to $850 [11:14] I got it on sale for $500 US [11:16] daftykins, depends on what one's definition is of low vs high I guess [11:17] *nod* [14:43] good afternoon to all [14:44] !ltsupgrade [14:44] Upgrades from 16.04 LTS will not be enabled until a few days after the 18.04.1 release expected in late July. [14:44] howdy [14:44] hey pragmaticenigma [14:44] ive requested trigegr this morning pragmaticenigma [14:45] !ltsupgrade is The upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04.1 is now available, if you do not get offered for the upgrade: Press Alt+F2 and type update-manager -c into the command box. Please make a backup before upgrading. [14:52] now someone to add it :p [14:53] could be forever! [14:57] I had to harass people in #ubuntu-irc to get !snaps added :) [14:57] !snaps [14:57] Snaps are containerised software packages similar to flatpaks or appimage. For more info, see https://snapcraft.io [14:58] i think you need to talk to pici [14:58] ah nice fix blackflow saw it added on newest factoids [14:58] tomreyn: it was ok to request few times, until ops see it [14:58] lotuspsychje: weird it wasn't added already, with 'buntu betting so hard on snaps [14:58] true that blackflow [14:59] alot of new ones come out surely [14:59] the !snaps factoid makes a good addition. :) it should also point to #snappy [14:59] good idea tomreyn, could you request blackflow ? [15:00] nacc also needs to forward them there [15:00] always [15:00] tomreyn: there's snappy separately [15:00] !snappy [15:00] Ubuntu Core is a rendition of Ubuntu with transactional updates using "snappy". For discussion and support, please visit #snappy and see http://www.ubuntu.com/snappy/ [15:00] ah right [15:01] so snaps to explain and snappy to forward? [15:01] but uh... that terminology is a mess. snappy is the tool but also the distribution.... [15:01] snaps and snappy aren't necessarily 100% related [15:01] one could use snaps without ever touching snappy the distro. [15:02] thats true, ubuntu core runs also on IOT etc [15:02] unfortunate choice of words [15:02] s/runs/walks/ ;D [15:02] then we have flatpaks :p [15:03] and appimage :) [15:04] * BluesKaj just uses the generic install, no snaps or flatpaks or sandboxing of any kind [15:04] well the regular user with ubuntu software wouldnt know the difference [15:04] he sees the software and installs it [15:05] but once installed, we have to forward to the maintainer === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon [16:05] lotuspsychje: who do i need to forward where? [16:05] i believe he means snap users with issues need to go to the maintainer of the snap [16:07] yes, i always do that [16:07] or at least try to; if i know they are using a snap :) [16:16] yeah thats what i meant [16:17] nacc: we were discussing !snap vs !snappy [16:30] ah [16:30] yes i never understood why they were different [17:54] upcoming ubuntu.com relaunch http://www.ubuntu.com-pr-3899.run.demo.haus/ [21:03] OpenSSH Username Enumeration - http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2018/q3/124 [21:04] since v2.3.0 [21:08] tomreyn: Pich ! .. MS says they have a biggy too : https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/08/14/ubuntu-updates-for-l1-terminal-fault-vulnerabilities that ubuntu has a patch . [21:10] Bashing-om: MS as in microsoft? hows that related to the L1TF link you posted? [21:11] tomreyn: The micro-code .. for Intel based systems .. best I recall . [21:13] yes L1TF affects pretty much all intel systems. the monthly intel swiss cheese bug. [21:13] tomreyn: Opps .. yeah not MicrroSoft at all .. my bad .. poor memory . [21:14] so is mine, all the time. [21:59] tomreyn: oh you posted already, I just did in -hardened [21:59] * tomreyn 1st! ;-) [21:59] :) [22:00] blackflow: as you were tlaking about sarnold's presentation at debconf the other day: did you also watch the cryptsetup one? [22:00] tomreyn: not yet [22:01] tomreyn: this one? https://debconf18.debconf.org/talks/77-cryptsetup-in-debian-tips-tricks-and-future-plans/ [22:02] looks like we might *finally* get some of those long awaited features, like proper puttyd integration ini initrd and actually working scripts for multipele alternative dm-crypt authentication mechanisms [22:02] yes [22:02] he's a DD, so they're working on busters' schedule [22:03] oh that'd be nice. I know the latter is very much a PITA for a lot of admins [22:03] unfortunaltey this means we'll only have it for the next LTS [22:03] unless SRU'd ? [22:03] that'd be great but i'll believe it when i see it [22:03] it'd be a feature SRU, which i think are rare [22:04] maybe there'l be a snap ;-P [22:04] heh [22:30] Hello