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forgotmynickin the ubuntu 18.04 installer, is the subnet 192.168.0.0/24 or 255.255.255.0/24 ?00:03
naccforgotmynick: the former, if that's your subnet00:03
forgotmynicki know, i was just testing you00:04
forgotmynick(thanks)00:04
naccforgotmynick: ... please don't spam the channel then.00:05
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Belialnacc, pretty sure he was being tongue in cheek with the "just testing you." hence the "thanks" after you helped him.00:21
Biessiehow can i know what all the apt-get upgrade for 18.04.1 changes are?00:27
madLyfecompdoc: my board is a gigabyte from 201300:28
tomreynmadLyfe: it may still have this option.00:29
Biessiei do it daily but would like to know what the changes are fixing :)00:29
compdocwell, you would know if those options can be enabled seperately. You want AHCI on always. But if you want real raid, there are raid cards that a fairly cheap00:29
madLyfeI remember my Samsung SSD saying that I couldn't update the firmware if I wasn't on AHCI. also in bios it says if you want NCQ and smart plus other drive features you need AHCI enabled.00:29
tomreynBiessie: "apt changelog <package>" after installing, or apt-listchanges to see be prompted before iniitating installation.00:31
madLyfetomreyn: which feature were you referring to?00:31
tomreynmadLyfe: the 'AHCI / RAID' hard disk (controller) mode of operation BIOS option00:33
madLyfeeither/or or a mode where AHCI is enabled when raid is enabled like compdoc was talking about? because I remember my Sammy SSD complaining that I wasn't using AHCI when was in raid mode when I tried to update it's firmware. so not sure if my board has that?00:38
tomreynmadLyfe: those are values you can choose from on a single bios opiton. you want ahci, and either software raid or proper hardware rai, never fakeraid, if you have had to or just read about the experiences people made with recovering those..00:41
tomreynrai -> raid00:41
tomreynbut i have a feeling this is the third day in a row you're asking this question and getting the same answers. ;)00:42
madLyfeI'm getting somewhere today 🤣00:42
Biessietomreyn : Thanks!00:43
Biessiealways elpful00:43
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Biessiehelpful* today isnt my day00:43
tomreynwelcome, and i fail on typing more than you do.00:44
kevrhello00:51
kevri corrupted a file in /etc/sudoers.d/, and i dont have a password for su setup properly00:52
kevris there a way to recover the system?00:52
kevri booted into recovery shell via grub, but everything is mounted RO00:52
tomreynkevr: the recovery menu offers you to remount rw. it may not spell it out like this (not sure). the option to bring the network online does so.00:54
tomreynkevr: but you can also just run "mount -o remount,rw /" from the recovery shell00:54
kevrtomreyn: thanks00:55
filifunkHi guys, I had an issue earlier.  I bought a new router and my computer could not get on the internet.  Someone in this chat gave me a command that fixes it.  The problem is that I have to use the command everytime I log in.  Is there a way for the command to be used on boot up automatically?01:09
kevrYes, there is.01:11
kevrHowever, maybe we can solve your problem without having to manually add something.01:11
kevrWhat exactly did you use to get it to work?01:11
pete_hey guys, what's the main topic tonight?01:12
kevrUbuntu.01:13
filifunkkevr: ok, I'll pull it up one sec01:13
Belialpete_, the golden girls reboot01:13
emmais there a way to know in advance if a given laptop will run ubuntu nicely?01:13
Belial201901:13
filifunkkevr: sudo ip link set dev enp2s0 down && sudo dhclient enp2s001:13
kevremma: usually intel chipset laptops are nice01:13
emmai want to find the best laptop that can be bought onlinle for less than 600 dollars that will run ubuntu nicely01:13
kevremma: try to avoid stuff with broadcom wifi01:13
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emmakevr: i do want to but the specs online never say what the wireles chipset is01:14
kevryou'll have to look up the manual to the model you're interested in01:14
kevror go to the vendor site for specs01:14
kevralso01:14
kevrUbuntu has a large supported hardware listing to help people out with that01:14
Belialemma, can't go wrong with most intel based dell laptops01:14
kevrYou should check out that list as you're buying the laptop :)01:15
kevrAnything with an intel chipset/intel graphics onboard has never failed me on Linux01:15
emmabut intel chipset means wireless?01:16
kevrcould mean multiple things01:16
kevrthat's one of them though, yeah, pretty important for laptop :)01:16
Belialemma, are you worried about a particular wireless chipset by intel?01:17
filifunkHi guys, I had an issue earlier.  I bought a new router and my computer could not get on the internet.  Someone in this chat gave me a command that fixes it.  The problem is that I have to use the command everytime I log in.  Is there a way for the command to be used on boot up automatically?01:17
kevrfilifunk: there's a problem with your command that you used to fix the issue01:18
filifunkkevr: oh yeah?01:18
kevrfilifunk: apparently there are already services on your system which are bringing up your interface and running dhcp on it01:18
kevri would suggest changing _those_ to work the way you'd like, instead of adding extra commands01:18
kevrotherwise, you're going to have a service battling the other for little reason01:18
filifunkkevr: ok, any tips on how I might do this?  Some things I should look into?01:19
kevrfilifunk: what exactly was the original issue you were having?01:19
kevrAs in...01:19
filifunkkevr: I was connected to my router via ethernet, but could not get on the internet, despite every other device being able to01:20
kevrOn boot, did you get an IP address? If so, were you missing a correct route or DNS?01:20
kevrIf not, maybe we should investigate why dhcpcd was apparently failing01:20
filifunkkevr: I want to say yes I did, but don't know for sure.  I just remember before I had the problem fix I had an IP address that I was telling people in the chat was my IP address01:21
kevrokay01:21
kevrlet's do this01:21
kevrreboot your computer, without internet, and don't do anything01:21
filifunkkevr: okay, I'm assuming I should log into this chat via my laptop that can connect via wireless01:22
kevrYes01:22
kevr:)01:22
filifunkkevr: ok, no smoke signal lol01:22
kevrWhen you get to a prompt01:22
kevrRun these commands for me:01:22
kevr`ip addr >> /tmp/log; ip route >> /tmp/log; cat /etc/resolv.conf >> /tmp/log`01:23
kevrafter that, /tmp/log will be a text file with those commands output inside of it01:23
kevrwe need that file so i can inspect it01:23
kevrSo, after you run those commands, connect to the internet, then upload that log to a paste or something01:23
filifunkkevr:ok01:24
filifunk2test01:24
kevrsuccess01:25
filifunkkevr: back01:30
filifunkkevr: https://pastebin.com/dcy8zRdA01:30
kevrokay01:30
kevrnow01:30
kevrfilifunk: are you using server or desktop?01:31
filifunkkevr: desktop01:31
kevrinteresting01:32
de-factoI consider it mildly irritating that on invoking software updates (gui) I _sometimes_ (kernel updates?) get a password prompt without any further explanation!? Is that meant to educate users to enter root password for every dialogue that pops sometimes up?01:32
kevrit doesnt look like you're even getting an IP address01:32
kevrmeaning, there's probably no DHCP service running for your eth adapter01:32
kevrthat would explain why dhclient got you internet, because nothing else is doing it01:32
kevrfilifunk: what happens if you use...01:33
filifunkkevr: so all my other devices have a DHCP service?01:33
kevrfilifunk: systemctl start networking.service?01:33
kevrfilifunk: usually dhcp is set to run on boot by default...01:33
filifunkkevr: I should type that in the prompt?01:33
kevrtype it in a shell, yes,01:33
T3ll0ll3thii what is the function of python2 ?01:34
kevrT3ll0ll3t: it's a programming language.01:34
filifunkkevr: ok, typed it and entered it in.  A prompt asking for my password came up.  I entered it and hit enter, and nothing happened01:34
kevrT3ll0ll3t: The reason python2 still exists alongside python3 is because they are not compatible with each other. python3 doesn't support all legacy python2 code, and all python2 modules are python2 only.01:34
kevrMeaning, if the OS decided to jump everything to python 3 they would break thousands of projects01:35
kevrfilifunk: do you have internet now?01:35
filifunkkevr: right now, yes, have had it ever since I logged back in and gave you that paste link01:35
kevrah, right01:35
kevrso01:35
kevrcan you also give me this file:01:35
kevr`/etc/network/interfaces`01:36
kevron a pastebin01:36
T3ll0ll3tok thanks kevr01:36
kevrT3ll0ll3t: anytime!01:36
T3ll0ll3twhere do you from kevr01:36
kevrI'm from California, USA01:36
filifunkkevr: https://pastebin.com/fxNTMhct01:36
T3ll0ll3toh01:36
kevrfilifunk: you don't have your interface configured for internet01:37
kevrthat's why you aren't getting it automatically01:37
kevrone sec01:37
filifunkkevr: I'm no computer scientist but that sounds problematic lol01:37
kevrfilifunk: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Using_DHCP_to_automatically_configure_the_interface01:37
kevrfilifunk: replace eth0 with your ethernet adapter's name01:38
kevrsave it, and reboot01:38
kevrfilifunk: but, don't remove the `lo` lines01:38
kevrthose are definitely needed01:38
kevrjust add a new section for the eth adapter01:38
filifunkkevr: so I've seen this a lot: enp2s0, is that the ethernet adapter name?01:39
kevrfilifunk: exactly01:39
kevr:)01:39
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filifunkkevr: so before I even went to this chat to try and solve my problem I googled around and followed this one tutorial that said I should turn off ipv6.  So I turned it off.  Is that going to be a problem?01:40
kevrfilifunk: keep that page bookmarked that i linked you, it's applicable to the default networking on debian-based systems01:40
filifunkkevr: ok01:40
kevrfilifunk: it's not going to be a problem01:40
tomreynkevr: you're ignoring network manager + systemd-networkd there. /etC/network/interfaces isn't how you configure networking on an ubuntu desktop these days. (i admit it may be the fastest way forward in this remote support scenario, though.)01:40
kevrfilifunk: also, all of this stuff may be manageable on your network system tray widget, but i'm not sure01:41
de-factoFancy new predictable network adapter names: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/01:41
kevryeah, that's what i was thinking01:41
kevrnetwork manager is probably the best ubuntu way eh?01:41
tomreynkevr: it's default for desktops, yes01:41
kevrfilifunk: check the networking icon in your system tray, there should be interface settings in there01:41
tomreynkevr: but maybe just ignore me. filifunk + i tried to solve this for hours the other day and i couldnt fix it in the end, needed to sleep.01:42
kevrah, i see.01:42
kevrwell it's cool, the more he learns the better anyways01:42
kevr:)01:42
kevrlet's try the first suggestion01:43
filifunkkevr: try the first one with link you gave me?01:43
kevryeah01:43
filifunkkevr: ok, so I am going to add those first three lines to the interfaces file01:44
kevryup. and remember to replace the eth0 :)01:44
filifunkkevr: yup01:44
Bashing-omkevr: See filifunk's https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7sV3Jxn9JK/ . In particular ip r >> default via 192.168.0.1 dev enp2s0 proto static metric 100 . Where status is set for some reason and all we look at is DHCP set-up .01:45
Bashing-omstatus/static*01:46
kevrinteresting01:46
kevri see, so the paste this time was different because the auto connection was removed from nm01:46
filifunkkevr: I have a read only version, I'm like blanking out on how to make it readable.  I just tried to replace it but it would not let me01:47
filifunk*writeable I mean01:47
kevrfilifunk: use sudo to edit it01:47
headrxhey question.. i was messinng with my windows manager, and broke my workspace switch shortcut keys... how to fix?01:47
headrxthey were alt-cntrl-updownleftright01:47
filifunkkevr: is there a way to do it using the window view, or do I have to do this all through terminal?01:47
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filifunkkevr: I'm looking at it on gedit01:48
kevrfilifunk: gksudo gedit i think01:48
kevr`gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces`01:48
filifunkkevr: that worked, thanks01:49
kevrBashing-om: `-> 192.168.0.0./24 dev enp2s0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.0.17 metric 100`01:49
kevris this correct?01:49
kevri see an extra period after the 192.168.0.001:49
filifunkkevr: I'm going to reboot01:50
kevrfilifunk: sure01:50
kevrit looks like he has an incorrect static route there, if the trailing . is indeed true01:50
headrxno ideas?01:51
filifunkkevr: annnnnd it works!01:52
kevrsweet01:52
filifunkkevr: so just to kind of recap01:52
kevrcan i ask for your attention for a few more minutes, however?01:52
filifunkkevr: me?  yeah01:53
kevrya01:53
kevrsure, sorry, go on01:53
filifunkkevr: so I came in asking for some code to automatically input a command that turns on that dhcp service.  But you wanted to get in even before that because some other program was distracting it or something.  The place to find out was in the interfaces file and you just set it up so it gets the dhcp going before any weirdness happened?01:54
kevrnot exactly01:54
kevrlet me explain a bit how networking is setup by default on ubuntu01:55
filifunkkevr: ok01:55
kevrfirst of all, /etc/network/interfaces is a very old file. originally, it was the file that the OS used at boot to configure interfaces with its default service01:55
kevrnow, since then, a lot has changed, and systemd has been adopted as the primary "service" daemon on the OS, this introduces "new" services that replace the old version01:56
Bashing-omkevr: 192.168.0.1 should be correct .. ping and verify ?01:56
kevrcalled systemd-networkd (for base interface setups)01:56
kevrafter systemd-networkd, usually there is a program that actually manages your connections01:56
kevron Ubuntu, they use this thing called Network Manager, and it comes with the little network icon applet in your system tray01:57
kevrThat program tells Ubuntu to reconfigure the underlying items when you change them in the GUI01:57
kevrHowever, I happen to know that /etc/network/interfaces is still supported at the low level for back-compatibility purposes01:57
kevrYou see, when you pasted the address info to me (currently), it looked like there was no service at all doing anything for your interface01:58
kevrBasically what happens is, ubuntu runs through systemd-networkd, it finds out which interfaces its supposed to configure01:58
kevrthen, when it knows, it brings them up, and does some subsequent stuff depending on what you set (static, dhcp, whtaever)01:58
kevrWhat I believe is that yesterday when you set the static IP, that you actually typo'd the default gateway on accident01:59
kevror not the default gateway, but your static route for 192.168.0.0/2401:59
filifunkkevr: how did I set the static IP...I don't remember, was there some command I did that set it?02:00
kevrin other words, today's problem is different than yesterday's problem02:00
kevrfilifunk: you must have done it in Network Manager GUI02:00
filifunkkevr: ok02:00
kevrfilifunk: so what i would suggest honestly... one sec02:00
chenchenchenhello world02:01
kevrfilifunk: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager02:02
kevrfilifunk: some of this information is a little different, because that's the debian wiki02:02
kevrfirst, i would check to see what "managed" is set to in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf02:02
kevrthen, i would go into the little network gui applet thingy and check your stuff out02:02
kevrmake sure you see your interface, that its set to auto and dhcp02:03
kevretc02:03
kevrbasically you wanna make sure that's in sync with what you want02:03
kevreventually, they'll probably stop supporting /etc/network/interfaces (in years)02:03
filifunkkevr: ok, managed is false02:03
kevrset it to true02:04
kevrwith an editor like you did before02:04
kevrthen restart the service with `systemctl restart network-manager`02:04
filifunkkevr: ok, I am reconnected02:05
kevrsweet02:05
kevralright, now open up the little network icon in your tray02:05
kevrand go through it and look at your interfaces and stuff02:05
kevrjust do a check02:05
filifunkkevr: I think I'm unsure what to check for....if it says managed is true as well here?02:06
kevris there an enp2s0 device or whatever somewhere?02:07
kevrAuto enp2s002:07
filifunkkevr: I see a bunch of IP addresses, default routes, etc02:07
kevrAuto Ethernet02:07
filifunkkevr: there is an "ifupdown (enp2s0)"02:07
kevrhmm, i should really get more familiar with network manager :)02:08
kevrsec02:08
Bashing-omfilifunk: confirm this is a desktop machine .02:08
filifunkBashing-om: yes, desktop02:09
Bashing-omfilifunk: K; then you can get awa7y wuth setting managed=true and use "/etc/network/interfaces" file for control.02:10
kevrfilifunk: is there "Network Connections" somewhere?02:10
Bashing-omaway with*02:10
filifunkBashing-om: ok, sounds good02:10
filifunkkevr: yep, I am looking at it right now02:11
kevrcool yeah, so as long as you see your adapter in there and stuff02:11
filifunkkevr: yep!02:11
kevryou should be able to edit it and see DHCP set and stuff02:11
kevralright cool man02:11
kevrnow just try to use the applet in the future alright?02:11
kevrim 99% sure it was just a typo yesterday :)02:11
filifunkkevr: actually when I click on "ifupdown (enp2s0)" the Edit button ghosts on me02:12
kevroh yeah?02:12
filifunkkevr: ok lol02:12
kevris that the only interface?02:12
filifunkkevr: yes that's the only one, I have old Wi-fi connections and the edit button is available for those02:12
kevrah i see, so that managed=true makes it forced to be managed by /etc/network/interfaces02:12
kevrinteresting02:12
kevrwell you'll be fine, just keep those pages bookmarked :)02:13
kevrthey show setups for static and stuff too02:13
filifunkkevr: ok! haha.  I feel comfortable just being happy to have internet come on automatically :)02:14
kevrgreat!02:14
kevr:D02:14
filifunk!cookie kevr02:14
filifunkdoes that work lol02:14
kevr\o/02:14
filifunkI saw someone else do that02:14
kevrhaha02:14
kevralright bud, i'm gonna get back to work02:14
kevrhave a great day02:14
filifunkkevr: thanks man!02:14
filifunkkevr: you too02:14
kevranytime sir02:14
kevro/02:14
madLyfeso the nightlight feature on ubuntu 18.04.1 only works on one monitor for me. the default monitor. though i have enabled on all of them.02:21
ewjordanBeen seeing "BUG: Bad page map in process ruby2.5" when I boot new servers ever since the security update earlier today - known issue anywhere?02:32
ewjordanon AWS, so also could be a hypervisor thing related to Foreshadow02:32
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hays_so I have a piece of software that I am not the developer of, but I want to package it in a way I can deploy it really easily to a bunch of servers. Is there a sensible way to do this with a .deb?  once its installed, it has its own update mechanism02:43
hays_i kinda think because it has its own update mechanism, maybe a .deb isn't really the way to go02:44
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kevrthat's fine02:48
kevrif it's your own custom package. things in the repositories aren't really intrusive, but you can install services in postinst and stuff02:49
kevrthey have postinst/prerm scripts you can run for setup/teardown02:49
kevrjust make sure you don't intrude on other programs02:49
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kevractually, that's most likely the best way, as the deb can track the files it installs and take care of cleaning things up in case you need to02:50
kevrit's more manageable02:50
kevralso version upgrades, etc.02:50
kevrhays_: i usually use two separate packages02:53
kevrhays_: there's the daemon that has update services installed as a package, and the separate package02:53
kevrso that daemon can help keep the package up to date without breaking things02:53
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Apachezsomewhat offtopic but since many with ubuntu uses virtualbox, anyone else having problems with fetching latest virtualbox-5.2 from oracles servers?03:00
ApachezFailed to fetch http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/pool/contrib/v/virtualbox-5.2/virtualbox-5.2_5.2.18-124319~Ubuntu~bionic_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 2.18.35.31 80]03:00
Apachezyet the file is there according to the http server dirlist, but not when one try to download the file...03:00
kevrhave you tried apt-get update?03:00
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hays_kevr: yeah, I guess what is weird is that the .deb usually has a version number associated with it03:03
kevrhays_: it doesn't actually matter what the version is though03:03
kevryou could literally make it 1.0 forever if you want03:03
kevrdpkg -i blah.deb overrides it anyways03:03
kevrhays_: i usually just extract the version off of something in the project03:04
kevrmaybe git rev count, something like that03:04
kevrsegment it into parts03:04
hays_how might I make it so that apt see it03:05
kevrwell03:05
kevryou would have to host your own repository for that03:05
hays_is there a dirt simple way to host a single .deb repository? heh03:05
kevrhays_: https://askubuntu.com/questions/367147/how-to-host-a-repository-like-ppa-in-my-own-site03:05
kevrhowever03:06
kevrif you do it that way03:06
kevrapt-get upgrade isnt going to upgrade it if it's the same version03:06
kevrso you're going to need some kind of version bump.03:06
hays_can .deb files specify commands to run/03:07
hays_like if I wanted to create a GUID and put it somewhere03:08
kevrYes. Like I said, postinst/prerm files03:08
kevrLook up the structure of a .deb package03:08
pi0is there a flash plugin03:09
pi0for ubuntu for ice weasle03:09
pi0that can be install via apt install03:10
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pete_What's the best offline game for ubuntu?03:19
mwsbmoon-buggy03:21
madLyfehave any of you guys tried the new nix kernel?03:21
capelladefine new03:22
madLyfe4.18?03:23
madLyfefound this little guy: https://github.com/GM-Script-Writer-62850/Ubuntu-Mainline-Kernel-Updater03:41
tomreynmadLyfe: http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/wget_kernel_mainline.sh03:43
pi0does ubuntu use system 5 or system D03:44
Bashing-ompi0: systemd.03:49
Bashing-ompi0: Joweverm 14.04 is upstart .03:50
yangjianwen有人吗03:51
Bashing-omHowever*03:51
pi0?03:51
pi0oh i see03:52
pi0what was the older commands for system V03:52
madLyfetomreyn: is that the same script?03:54
guivercpi0 system V can mean a lot of things, it's a generation of unix (introduced 1983), so could mean Sh, the init scripts (as per your sysd question) or a lot more... most of which pre-date Ubuntu anyway and thus are off-topic here03:57
larissa_1hi03:58
guivercpi0, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto  may be of interest (sysd/sysvinit/...)04:00
illuminatedif you upgrade between releases, and the packages you have installed are not in the repos for the upgraded distro, does the upgrade remove those packages?04:16
Tin_manilluminated, not sure, not an expert, but maybe auto remove.?? i'm sure someone else might no the answer..04:18
Wild_Manilluminated, I now for sure it does if the old package is not compatible with new version04:19
Tin_man*know (no)04:20
Wild_Mannow/know04:21
Wild_Manthanks Tin_man04:21
Wild_Mangetting late here04:21
Tin_mansame04:21
Tin_mangetting older by the nano second.04:22
lotuspsychjeilluminated: why do you ask? you got issues?04:26
illuminatedlotuspsychje: not really.  there was a program I added from a ppa that no longer is installed.  wondered where it went.  I'm going to be switching from windows to ubuntu soon, and just trying to figure out how ubuntu does things.04:27
lotuspsychjeilluminated: if you upgrade, apt will disable external ppa's04:29
Tin_manilluminated, my advise is get a box and install ubuntu, keep windows on the other box, and learn before jumping ship..04:29
lotuspsychjeilluminated: we also dont support using external ppa's here, so we advice if you can, not to use them04:29
Tin_manand by no means dual boot.04:30
Striking7I started off by dual booting back in 2004 - gave me a chance to take things step by step04:30
Striking7It worked great for me.04:30
Striking7Later I ended up running windows in a virtual machine and ditched the windows install04:30
Wild_ManI dual boot and use virtual machines, virtual machine is a safe way to start, it is a lot harder to install dual boot with UEFI these days04:31
Striking7and now I end up using a windows vm maybe once a year04:31
Striking7Your milage may vary04:31
Striking7Wild_Man: that's true. UEFI can trip things up sometimes, depending on the variant04:31
illuminatedwell I got ubuntu running on a vbox vm on windows.04:32
* Striking7 hates Mac's UEFI04:32
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Striking7illuminated: that's a good introductory step. I just introduced my neighbor (19 year old kid) to Linux via virtual machines a few weeks ago04:32
Striking7he's already dual booting, and rarely uses his windows partition04:32
Striking7the VM is a great way to introduce yourself to Linux in a non-destructive manner. If you screw something up you can just roll it back, wipe it and reinstall, etc.04:33
Wild_ManStriking7, if I get into trouble with booting issues I get help from oldfred on the forum he is the best that I know and is a supermoderator as am I there so he is always around04:33
Tin_mani started computing in 1984, and i have 4 windows machines (real) and 3 linux machines (real).. I like real..04:33
Tin_mani married a real woman in 1975, 43 year later still real..04:34
Wild_ManTin_man, I like real to but I do run some vm's on Ubuntu04:34
Striking7I started in 95 - I have a 2005 Mac Mini, a 2007 iMac, an 8 core xeon, and a 2007 alienware laptop04:34
Striking7all of them run linux04:34
Striking7I use vms of linux to make virtual appliances that I distribute to colleagues and friends.04:35
lotuspsychjelets keep it ontopic guys, we have a nice #ubuntu-discuss04:35
Striking7Some for work (some colleagues aren't so hot at configuring a system, so it's nice to just ship them a pre-done system), some are wargames for friends04:35
Striking7(hack this VM if you can! Here are some hints...)04:35
Striking7sorry lotuspsychje04:35
rangemongerok so i was able to boot with vt-d on but the bad news is that it only boots on arch, ubuntu still hangs04:36
rangemongercan anyone help debug whats going on here?04:36
rangemongeri can post where its stuck on booting04:37
rangemongerbut i'll have to type it manually04:37
rangemongerthere are different things on each of my 2 screens04:38
rangemongerone is stuck at a ppdev parallel port thing and the other has an "acpi error (bug)"04:38
Tin_manGoodnight All, remember "Keep it Real"  :-)04:38
rangemongeracpi bios error (bug): could not resolve...04:40
rangemongerhow does one get the verbose messages of a previously failed boot?04:48
lotuspsychjerangemonger: you have been here before, if you want support on your issues we advice to post your issue all-in-one line with all details like ubuntu version, kernel,pastebin of your errors, details matter on this for volunteers to be able to help04:50
rangemongerlotuspsychje: i would if i knew how to post the failed boot info, it hangs on boot, i can turn vtd off and then boot fine but where do i go to get the previous, failed boot messages?04:51
lotuspsychjerangemonger: start with ubuntu version, kernel, errors take a pic? or write it down? F1 at boot for textboot?04:52
rangemonger18.04.1, it is text booting but its a lot to write done, cant take a pic before the os boots can i? does it log this info anywhere, i could turn vtd off and boot normally and then copy/paste it like that if i knew where it logs the previous boot04:54
rangemonger*down04:55
rangemongerlotuspsychje:  1 shows: "ppdev: user-space parallel port driver" as the last line05:01
rangemongermon2 shows: acpi bios error (bug): could not resolve [\_SB.PCI0.SAT0.SPT3._GTF.DSSP], AE_NOT_FOUND  (20180313/psargs-330)05:02
Harishello all05:16
Harisdo we have separately built php pkgs for apache mpm prefork, event, etc etc .. for trusty, xenial, bionic ?05:17
Harisalso the same for PPA05:18
tomreynmadLyfe: no, not the same script. one which is IMO better, allows you to verify the authenticity of mainline kernel builds (validates their GPG signatures).05:31
jiqirenseems the digital ocean mirror is behind, do-release-upgrade fails out. :(05:31
tomreynmadLyfe: i dont like the idea of downloading .deb files from some plain http webserver and install them, especially not kernel images.05:32
tomreynjiqiren: i guess you can always change the mirror server05:32
madLyfedoes the script you posted have a github?05:32
tomreynmadLyfe: i mirror it at github.com/tomreyn/scripts/05:33
tomreynmadLyfe: but i only pull from tj occasionally, no promises05:33
Flanneljiqiren: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors  will let you know the various syncronicity of mirrors05:34
jiqirenFlannel: thanks!05:36
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dnivraHello everyone! I'm trying to remove kernels 4.4 installed from 16.04 which are still around after upgrading to 18.04. The packages are not available and so apt can't uninstall them. How can I uninstall kernels from a previous distro version?05:39
guivercdnivra, have you tried `sudo apt-get autoremove`  (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RemoveOldKernels  says autremove --purge though)05:46
dnivraguiverc: Yes I did try autoremove. It didn't uninstall the linux kernel 4.4 though.05:48
guivercjust a guess; but if you only very recently upgraded; it may not want to remove it until there are more 'recent' kernels - ie. it's count of 'recent' has it included..  (I think the count is 4, but can be altered & i'm not sure sorry)05:50
madLyfetomreyn: ty. if i wanted to try out different DEs should i add them to ubuntu or should i try kbuntu or kde neon?05:52
dnivraguiverc: Actually there are newer kernels: I'm running linux 4.15.0.32 and there's 4.15.0.30 as well. I think because linux 4.4 is old and doesn't belong to bionic's package repos. That's probably why autoremove doesn't remove them.05:52
rangemongerautoremove usually leave one older kernel on05:54
rangemonger*leaves05:54
tomreynmadLyfe: i'd usually add more DEs to the existing installation. but if you later decide to remove them and want to make sure everything you dont need is gone, this can take a while. so if you want to prevent this, a separate installation can make sense if its just fortestign and you're yet unsure as to whether you'll keep it.05:56
madLyfethat makes sense05:56
madLyfeis it possible so that grub will pick up inserted usb drives? for say like booting into a live usb?05:57
oswaldHello, i am trying to install 'Polybar' and it says on Ubuntu you should use 'GetDeb' i am not sure how it works here is the given link http://www.getdeb.net/app/Polybar05:57
oswaldjust seems to be down :D05:59
tomreynmadLyfe: there is grub-imageboot for isos + HDD images. didnt work for me out of the box, but i didt try to fiddle with it.05:59
tomreynoswald: where does it say that you should use getdeb?06:00
tomreynoswald: and yes, getdeb is unfortunately down for some days now (and hasn't seen updates for quite a while)06:00
oswaldtomreyn: on the github documentation https://github.com/jaagr/polybar, it just says its available there06:01
oswaldwhen i try to install it manually it says a package 'xcb-proto' is missing not sure how to install it06:01
Guest76340if i have an efi partition from windows do i need to create another efi partition for linux grub2 or can i just use the windows efi partition (104 MB)06:02
oswaldalso i can't join the #i3 channel because it says i need to be verified how does this work on IRC?06:02
Aaronoswald: type sudo apt-get -f install06:02
tomreynoswald: there's a mirror at getdeb.megaglest.org, you can use this for now, but this would only work for xenial and i may trash it in the future if getdeb wont revive06:02
Aaronoswald: type /nickserv help register06:02
oswaldwhat does -f do06:02
tomreynfix broken06:03
oswaldok ty06:03
oswaldbut with ubuntu 18.04 i need to do apt-get or only apt?06:04
tomreynGuest76340: you'll *need* to use the existing one, since there should only be one per disk.06:04
tomreynoswald: either is fine. apt is designed to be more user freidnly, while apt-get is better suitable for scripting06:05
Flannelosw187: apt is just a combination of apt-get, apt-cache, and some other apt-* things.  To make it so you don't need to remember whther to use apt-cache or apt-get06:07
tomreyndnivra: what's the error message you get when you try to uninstall them with apt? normally this should just work fine even when the apt source is no longer available06:07
tomreyn!paste | dnivra06:07
ubottudnivra: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.06:07
rohithi06:08
rohithello06:10
dnivratomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/964nT45vsv/06:10
tomreynrohit: hi06:10
tomreyndnivra: it'S telling you that no such package is installed06:11
tomreyndnivra: so either the name is not spelled correctly or it has since been removed06:11
dnivratomreyn: Not quite. apt is saying it can't find the package. If package weren't installed, it would look like https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rg2CmBWr5S/06:13
dnivratomreyn: And linux-headers-4.4.0-130-generic is the correct page name - it exists in 16.04. See https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial-updates/linux-headers-4.4.0-130-generic06:14
osw187i can't find polybar on the getdeb link you sent me tomreyn06:17
tomreyndnivra: one of your outputs is that of apt-get, the other is of apt, this may explain the different messages06:21
tomreyndnivra: you can always dpkg -r or -P a package, too.06:22
laoguanhello06:22
Guest76340what packages usually hold defines/macros such as R_X86_64_GOT6406:22
tomreyn(but it's not ideal, doesn't take dependencies into account)06:22
tomreynosw187: maybe it's not there anymore. try finding a different ppa06:23
dnivratomreyn: Ah sorry about that. I tried running both with apt but there was no difference. And dpkg -r doesn't work either. I believe the problem is that the linux 4.4. packages are not present in 18.04 and so apt/dpkg can't recognize them.06:24
Flanneldnivra: If the package is installed, dpkg still knows about it.06:24
Flanneldnivra: can you pastebin `dpkg -l | grep linux-*`06:25
tomreyndnivra: if dpkg -r can't remove them, they're not installed. if they're installed, dpkg -l would list them06:27
dnivraFlannel: Here's the output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RSDVGmnv4J/06:28
Flanneldnivra: Ok.  That doesn't show any 4.4 kernels.  What makes you think you still have them installed?06:28
dnivratomreyn, Flannel: I have the linux kernel 4.4 files in /boot.06:29
Flanneldnivra: which files?06:29
dnivraSo I upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04 and I think the 4.4 kernels were not uninstalled during the upgrade.06:30
Flanneldnivra: Can you give an example of one of the 4.4 files in /boot?06:30
Flanneldnivra: Are you dualbooting this machine or anything like that?06:30
dnivraFlannel: Here are the files in /boot - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TkRkJZrs5J/. And no I'm not dual booting - 1 Ubuntu installation only.06:31
Flanneldnivra: Alright, what does `dpkg -S /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-130-generic` give you?  (I think I typed that correctly, go ahead and tab complete it!)06:32
dnivraFlannel: That was correct :). dpkg-query says "no path found matching pattern /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-130-generic"06:34
Flanneldnivra: Those 4.4 files aren't controlled by dpkg.  Which means they either were installed outside of dpkg/apt, or you somehow deleted the knowledge of their package from dpkg.  Since that's the case, nothing bad will happen if you just rm those files.06:34
FlannelThis isn't a normal thing.  If the files were a part of a package (and nothing was corrupted or anything in your package database), it doesn't matter *what* happens in the repos, dpkg will still know about the packages on your machine (because dpkg doesn't know/care about the repos)06:35
FlannelSo you could have files installed from a kernel from a decade ago, and they'd still be there until you removed them.06:35
Flannel"they" being the files *and* knowledge of the package in dpkg.06:36
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dnivraFlannel: Ah I see. Honestly I'm not sure dpkg doesn't know about them. I simply installed 18.04 without formatting / and that's it. I had some problems with EFI but I don't think that's relevant here.06:36
dnivraAnyhow it's safe to just rm them so I'll go ahead and do that.06:37
FlannelOOh06:37
Flanneldnivra: You installed it over top? not upgraded?06:37
Flanneldnivra: I am 100% sure that dpkg doesn't know about them (otherwise dpkg -S would tell you what package they came from)06:37
dnivraFlannel: Yeah installed over top. I just realized I probably wasn't clear about that part in my original query.06:38
Flanneldnivra: So, when you installed overtop, that is NOT an upgrade.  You literally just made the installer put all of its packages/files on the same file systems as before.  It doesn't clean them.  So the NEW dpkg database replaced the OLD dpkg database by overwriting it entirely.06:38
Flanneldnivra: So, you've probably got a *lot* of files that are potentially just sitting around.06:39
FlannelIt's like unzipping a file that contains "B.txt" into a directory that already contained A.txt.  You end up with a directory containing A.txt and B.txt.06:39
FlannelExcept dpkg only knows it unzipped B.txt, so it knows nothing about A.txt06:40
dnivraFlannel: Thanks for the explanation! Makes sense. And sorry about the wrong terminology: I completely mislead everyone.06:41
dnivraYeah lot's of files surely: at bare minimum the two kernels. Going to be a huge problem tracking them all.06:41
dnivraI guess I was probably better off upgrading or formatting / than this :).06:41
Flanneldnivra: No worries.  We figured it out.  Doing this sort of "upgrade" is certainly not best practices.  But other than extra HDD space, it /probably/ won't cause any major headaches.06:42
Flanneldnivra: If you move /home to a separate partition, you can always reinstall "around" /home and have a clean install.06:43
Flanneldnivra: anyway, if you have anything behaving funnily in the future, extra files (especially like "old configuration files" or whatever) is probably a good place to check first.06:43
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jeremiesIs safe to run amule in ubuntu?06:45
dnivraFlannel: Right. I used to do the separate /home but then I used to run out of space on / with lots of space on /home or vice versa. I decided it's better to just have a single / after that.06:45
dnivraI will keep in mind about the old config files causing issues when debugging any future problems. Thanks for that tip106:46
Flanneldnivra: Or use LVM!  So you can resize dynamically!06:46
Flanneldnivra: But yeah, partition size management is something that takes a bit to get a feel for your use-cases.06:47
Flanneldnivra: You *could* always migrate to a separate /home, reinstall, then migrate back to a combined one.  If the "bonus files" become an issue in the future.06:47
dnivraFlannel: I've never tried out LVM so that's something I will check out. Looks interesting. And yeah, the other solution is always there: migrate, reinstall and go back to single /.06:49
dnivraThanks for those tips!06:49
Flanneldnivra: no problem. Happy... hunting... or whatever!06:50
dnivraFlannel, tomreyn, guiverc: Thanks for all the help :)!06:50
jeremiesIs safe to run amule in ubuntu?06:51
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guivercjeremies, amule is in the universe repo, so it's as safe as any in that repo?  (https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=amule) if that worries you.. what do you mean by 'safe'??06:54
jeremiesguiverc: if it does have security vulnerabilities...06:55
guivercyou'll have to check yourself ; and see if it meets your needs - it's from upstream, MOTU & I don't know the named people nor package - you make up your own mind as with any 'universe' FOSS package in my mind... you know your needs, you do the homework...06:57
guiverchttps://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/amule  (forgot to paste this)06:57
neon__also how do i update my touchpad driver so it detects my touchpad as an actual touchpad instead of as a mouse07:00
Aaronneon__: if you use gnome go to the settings and Mouse and then Touch pad07:05
Aaronyou'll find it there.07:05
jeremiesguiverc: thanks07:07
TrangarIf I want to get rid of log text in my ubuntu splash screen, what keywords should I look for? All resources I find are about removing the splash screen altogether. http://puu.sh/BewOe/8d4ce880f1.png07:08
neon__Aaron: im using kubuntu07:08
pi0i am running ubuntu on virutalbox and loaded vbox addons, the iso is loaded but i cannot find it on /media or /mnt07:27
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ZexaronHello07:39
ZexaronI'm trying to set ubuntu to boot toram , the wiki says "no longer necessary" I'm guessing it's for the earlier workaround, so what do I need to do right now ?07:40
ZexaronI have the latest LTS x6407:40
ZexaronAlso, i'll be putting it on a multiboot using YUMI07:40
ZaZaQRhello07:40
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ZaZaQRi was going to click on that07:50
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ph88i tried mainline kernel 4.16 which really fixed some problems for me. But not all problems are gone .. should i also try 4.17 and 4.18 ?08:04
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ducasseph88: look for bug reports on your problem, see if it is fixed in later kernels08:18
guivercph88, 4.16 is not a Ubuntu supported kernel from what I can see; 4.15 & 4.17 are (18.10 currently uses 4.17) so I'd suggest using a supported patched Ubuntu kernel so it's automatically patched; I suspect 4.16 you'd have to update yourself security wise, but I don't know (opinion only)08:19
guiverc(my point was I'd try 4.17 due to Ubuntu Support .. 18.10 may go 4.18 before launch..; but it's only a short-term-support kernel anyway for Ubuntu)..  but you do what's right for your issue..08:21
Dreamannikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ uname -a08:21
DreamanLinux ubuntu-ivan 4.18.0-041800-generic #201808122131 SMP Sun Aug 12 21:33:20 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux08:21
Dreamannikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$08:21
Dreaman:)~08:21
enaut[m]hey, I'm trying to make my first ppa but upon dput ppa:user/repos  changes.file.changes I get an error: error 58: gpgme_op_verify - what does it mean? I've set up the gpg stuff and added the key tho launchpad...08:22
ducasseDreaman: please don't do that unless asked, you should know better08:22
Dreamanok08:22
Dreamanducasse command to upgreat to 18.1008:24
Dreaman:)08:24
Dreamanhelp me08:24
neonkdehow do i see what package owns x file08:25
ducasseDreaman: 18.10 support is in #ubuntu+108:25
Dreamanok08:25
EriC^neonkde: dpkg -S /path/to/file08:25
neonkdeok08:25
Dreamani am mi=ute08:26
Dreamanmute08:26
ph88guiverc, if i install 4.17 kernel will it automatically update with normal software updates ?08:27
enaut[m]anyone could help me with the dput issue?08:27
EriC^Dreaman: why you want to upgrade to 18.10? it's unreleased still, might have issues08:28
guivercph88, what release are you on?  18.04 LTS (with HWE enabled) will soon use 18.10 kernel, where by it would get updated I'd assume if using 18.10 and have HWE enabled (depends on how you installed it I bet), if other release, I doubt it...08:28
Dreamana use 18.04 lts and new kernel08:28
ducasseph88: no, not until a later kernel is released (which won't happen for a long time)08:28
Dreamanno need08:28
Dreamanchange name in repo08:29
Dreamanupgreat08:29
Dreamanuse 14 years ubuntu08:29
guivercyeah, my "soon" wasn't real accurate; will be after 18.10 is released...08:29
EriC^!mainline | Dreaman does this help?08:29
ubottuDreaman does this help?: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds08:29
EriC^Dreaman: you can install newer kernels on your current ubuntu08:29
Dreamanno need help me08:30
Dreamani now08:30
ph88guiverc, how do you know that 18.04 will get 18.10 kernel ?08:31
ducasseph88: that's how hwe works08:32
Dreamanhttp://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/08:32
guivercph88, by default 18.04 sticks with 18.04's kernel, but with HWE enabled, it moves to 18.10, 19.04, 19.10 then 20.04 when released...08:32
Dreamanjust update08:32
guivercph88, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack08:32
Dreamanwath is the problem08:32
EriC^Dreaman: if you want to update then "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" takes you to 18.1008:33
Dreamanno work08:33
ducasseDreaman: the problem is that mainline kernels are unsupported and don't have the patches regular ubuntu kernels do08:33
EriC^Dreaman: type grep -i prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades08:34
EriC^Dreaman: type "grep -i prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades"08:34
ph88ducasse, 4.17 gets regular minor updates why you say no new update in a long time ?08:34
DreamanEriC^  name08:35
Dreamannew08:35
Dreamanjust change08:35
ducasseph88: you need to install mainline updates manually08:35
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ph88this is also strange when i restart my pc i see:  unattended-upgrade in progress during shutdown, please don't turn off the computer   ... i've never seen this before08:36
ph88ducasse, i have 4.16 mainline kernel manually installed (from 4.15 default) .. now i will try the latest 4.17  .. but i rather not install kernels myself so the option that guiverc seems interesting08:36
Felishiacan someone help me figuring out why every time that I connect the charger in ubuntu 18.04 I don't have sound08:40
Felishiait recognizes the charger as a USB device08:40
Felishiaand tries to redirect the sound to the charger08:40
Felishiaso I have to manually go to the console and tell it to use the default device08:41
Felishiabut then it randomly switches back to the charger08:41
neonkdeFelishia: lol08:41
Felishia:(08:41
Felishiaso I can't charge my computer and listen to anything at once wtf08:41
neonkderip08:42
Zexaronubunutu legacy bios boot options menu stupid filename txt.cfg08:43
Zexaronalmost didn't fount it if I would do grep08:43
ph88this unattended-update during restart already takes 10 minutes .. how long should i wait ?08:43
neonkdehow do i correctly install virtualbox08:45
neonkdeneon@neon-X555BA:~$ virtualbox08:45
neonkdeSegmentation fault08:45
ducasseneonkde: which release is this?08:45
neonkde16.04.1-Ubuntu08:46
neonkdeLinux neon-X555BA 4.15.0-30-generic #32~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 26 20:25:39 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux08:46
neonkdei did sudo apt install virtualbox08:49
guivercneonkde, i would suggest full-upgrade then try - 16.04.5 I think is the current version, not .108:50
neonkdeok08:50
neonkde0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.08:51
guiverci checked; 16.04.5 is the current version, are you using KDE Neon ? and not Ubuntu?08:52
ducasseguiverc: it's .1 when hwe is not enabled, iirc08:53
guivercokay - sorry neonkde (my 16.04.5 doesn't have HWE enabled..)08:54
neonkdeguiverc: yes08:54
neonkdeSysinfo for 'neon-X555BA': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.13.4 on KDE neon 5.13 powered by Linux 4.15.0-30-generic, CPU: AMD A6-9220 RADEON R4, 5 COMPUTE CORES 2C+3G at 1701-1786/2500 MHz, RAM: 5357/7487 MB, Storage: 13/314 GB, 198 procs, 2.43h up08:54
ducasseneonkde: neon is supported in #kde-neon08:55
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dreadkopphey guys. hope you guys can help me .... i have a dozen similar machines which i like to update via a cronjob (after tested on the 'spare' machine) ... update-script includes these two lines: https://hastebin.com/aqewavozet.sql however it still prompts me when it tries to update grub if i want to keep the current config or change it .....08:57
dreadkoppubuntu server 18.0408:58
ubuntuHi,09:08
ubuntuHi09:08
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Guest35342hello09:17
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Guest35342I have a pc in which I am able to use Ubuntu then I buy a laptop and09:18
Guest35342when I try to install ubuntu in my laptop there is a black screen but when I use a flashlight on my laptop screen then I barely able to see a menu which asks to try or install I get this same problem with Kali Linux also09:18
Guest35342hey guys09:19
blackrootGuest35342: have you tried to just punch enter?09:19
Guest35342can u explain09:19
blackrootWhen you see that text, just push enter09:20
blackrootsee what happens09:20
Guest35342u mean with shift key09:21
Guest35342yes i tried it09:21
Guest35342with nomodset09:21
sebsebseboh memory lane!09:21
Guest35342after using this method i get a black screen09:21
Guest35342hey!09:27
Guest35342can u help me09:27
ppfreasking from yesterday: i'm on xenial. how do i downgrade gcc to 5.3?09:27
sebsebseb!ask | Guest3534209:28
ubottuGuest35342: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience09:28
ducasse!patience | Guest3534209:28
ubottuGuest35342: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/09:28
ppfinstall gcc-5=5.3 fails because of dependencies, so how do i do this correctly?09:28
Guest35342I have a pc in which I am able to use Ubuntu then I buy a laptop and09:28
Guest35342when I try to install ubuntu in my laptop there is a black screen but when I use a flashlight on my laptop screen then I barely able to see a menu which asks to try or install I get this same problem with Kali Linux also09:28
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ppfis there a way to recursively downgrade dependencies?09:31
ppfin a safe manner09:31
Guest35342hey sebsebseb09:32
sebsebsebGuest35342: hi what you want?09:33
Guest35342I have a pc in which I am able to use Ubuntu then I buy a laptop and09:34
Guest35342<Guest35342> when I tr09:34
Guest35342sebsebseb: when i try to install ubuntu  i get a black screen09:35
Guest35342but when i use a flash light on my screen09:35
sebsebsebGuest35342: when do you get the black screen ?09:35
Guest35342when it ask to install or try09:35
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sebsebseband what was that about a flash light ?09:35
Guest35342when i use a flash light on my screen i am barely able to see a menu to isntall09:36
sebsebsebGuest35342: I just had my own werid issue, wehre yep black screen, when booting up  what was meant to be the live session09:36
sebsebsebGuest35342: Grub should come up, it's mostly dark in Ubuntu by default09:37
sebsebsebor black and white kind of thing09:37
sebsebsebfrom that you put try Ubuntu from live session09:37
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y0sh19 ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  ­ https://i.redd.it/8w0r915sm1ty.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­09:37
Guest35342when i try fr live  then i stucks09:38
Guest35342then it stucks09:38
pi0what is the task manager version for ubunut09:40
pi0but console09:40
sebsebsebGuest35342: when you put try ubuntu on the live sesison so from grub09:40
sebsebsebGuest35342: it just goes black screen or what?09:40
ppfhtop09:41
ppfpi0: ^09:41
Guest35342i using csm mode so it not showing grub09:41
pi0in order to kill process you need to run as root?09:41
ppfno09:42
ppfbut you can only kill processes that you own09:42
pi0nice09:45
pi0i opened an app09:45
pi0but not sure the name09:45
pi0but i see the window open09:45
pi0it only says terminal09:46
pi0how do i kill that process09:46
nayemHow to check used internet data and internet speed on Ubuntu?09:49
nayemNot for only one day. Is it possible to check the usage of months?09:50
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BluesKajHowdy folks10:02
quimDo you see my two nicknames quim and jeremies ?10:05
JadedJHi10:05
JadedJI'm running xubuntu 16 LTS, when autocomplete is not working for tar10:06
JadedJbut it is for 'cd' and 'apt-get'10:06
JadedJI'm running xubuntu 16 LTS, autocomplete doesn't work for the 'tar' command10:06
BluesKajquim, nope10:07
quimyou only see quim ?10:08
guivercJadedJ, what do you mean autocomplete?  if you hit tab twice, you should see the options (many commands start with 'ta'10:08
BluesKajonly one allowed per server10:08
BluesKajquim,^10:08
guivercJadedJ, even at three characters; `tar` could be 3 commands on my machine, so autocomplete on a single tab isn't yet available...10:10
quimBluesKaj, thanks10:12
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botatohola10:14
botatonow I'm botato10:14
JadedJguiverc: What about if I use the parameters first and want to auto complete the filename?10:16
JadedJtar -xjf10:18
guivercJadedJ, i can't speak authoritatively here, but if the shell knows you are typing a filename, it'll autocomplete (if unique & matching), a test on my box had it expand a tarball correctly...10:20
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mezodhello, while connected to a remote machine via ssh, is it possible to do something like "command > file" so that the file ends up in your local machine?10:30
mezodI see you can do "ssh user@machine command > log" but what if already sshed?10:30
hateballmezod: blah > user@yourhost:/file.log10:31
mezodhmm nice thank you, now need to figure my host x)10:32
hateballactually no that wont work10:32
hateballwhat the... *gets coffee for a brain*10:33
mezodaww10:34
ppfhere's what i'm getting trying to downgrade gcc: https://ghostbin.com/paste/9dpcz10:42
ppfhow do i do this correctly10:42
JadedJIs there a good guide out there on how to install HoneyD on ubuntu 16 LTS?10:42
TrangarIf I want to get rid of log text in my ubuntu splash screen, what keywords should I look for? All resources I find are about removing the splash screen altogether. http://puu.sh/BewOe/8d4ce880f1.png10:44
guivercmezod, i'd just create the file on the machine being used, then `scp` it do the machine you want it on, then delete it on used.machine...   (ie. I've never wanted a better method than that)10:45
mezodyeah, i thought there'd be a fancier way than that :p10:46
MeiRHi, we employ a new freelance devops and gave him root privileges, so we prefer to carefully track his actions, at least for the first period10:46
ppfmezod, hateball: command > ssh user@machine 'cat > file'10:46
MeiRwhat would be the best way to log his ssh logins and commands, and any file uploads \ modifications? (maybe there're more things that don't come to my mind)10:47
mezodhmm that's confusing10:48
ppfMeiR: with root access? none10:48
MeiRppf, why? because he'll have anyway access for stopping these logs?10:48
guivercTrangar, splash hides the startup-text-messages; 'ie. quiet splash', so i can't see how getting rid of slash would help..  -- i think you need to select a new plymouth screen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth10:49
ppfyes10:49
MeiRppf, let's assume he won't dig to that level, therefore he won't know10:49
guivercTrangar, this is easier https://askubuntu.com/questions/2007/how-do-i-change-the-plymouth-bootscreen  (use 65-up-vote answer)10:49
MeiRin addition, if it helps, i meant to "su" privileges with his own user, and not the actual root10:50
Trangarguiverc: I'll have a look, thanks10:50
ppfMeiR: that's the same thing10:51
jeremiesIf I make this openssl certificate with one PC can I export it to another PC ?10:52
jeremiesopenssl req -x509 -sha256 -nodes -days 365 -newkey rsa:4096 -keyout ~/.config/hexchat/certs/freenode.pem -out ~/.config/hexchat/certs/freenode.pem10:52
ppfjeremies: sure10:52
jeremiesHow ?10:52
ppfcopy it?10:52
MeiRppf: allright, so as i said we're assuming he won't know10:52
windyou know a fix to network manager disconnecting either wired or wireless soon after boot, and once manually reconnected works infinitely till next boot? still happens to me over several major versions, on totally different computers, no matter what desktop (mate/unity)?10:53
jeremiesI try it with hexchat but doesn't work10:53
ppfMeiR: you can enable auditing in pam10:53
ppfMeiR: actually, if you don't give him su but only sudo, and nail that down properly, that'd be much saner10:56
jeremiesppf: hexchat doesn't allow to connect to freenode with tor network10:56
ppfand also auditable with sudoreplay10:57
ppfjeremies: and why's that10:57
MeiRppf, i added him inside "visudo" with: ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL10:57
jeremiesppf: using this certificate copied from another user created from my pc10:57
MeiRit's considered only sudo, isn't it?10:57
ppfjeremies: why10:57
ppfMeiR: yes, but after sudo su - it's not10:58
jeremiesppf: I followed the tutorial in https://medium.com/@defcon201/tutorial-connecting-to-freenode-via-tor-like-a-boss-f8d74199b634 but the nickname that puts freenode then is my ubuntu username and I don't want that10:58
MeiRhow can i tell if he's allowed to "su -" ?10:58
jeremiesthen I created a new username in ubuntu and created a openssl certificate with this username10:58
jeremiesafter copying it to my real username it won't work10:59
MeiRto "sudo su" *10:59
ppfMeiR: he's alloed10:59
MeiRok, so can i please know how should i implement your suggestion: "if you don't give him su but only sudo"?11:00
ppfjeremies: better ask this in #hexchat11:00
jeremiesok, thanks ppf11:01
ppfMeiR: whitelist the commands he's allowed to use11:01
Fuchsjeremies: where does it put that user? Also you can use hexchat to connect via Tor, you just need to SASL external, we have manuals for that on our website (freenode.net)11:01
Guest38601Ubuntu 14.04.5 Support?11:02
Guest38601install Minecraft in Ubuntu 14.04.5?11:04
jeremiesFuchs: in my nickname. Now is jeremies, because I'm not connected through tor. But if I connect throught tor it becomes quim (my desktop pc username)11:04
Fuchsthat's configureable and unrealted to the certificate11:04
Fuchs*unrelated, even11:05
jeremiesFuchs: yes I can do /nick newNick11:05
jeremieswhen I issue /whois newNick it gives quim@tor...11:06
Fuchsthat's the ident11:06
Fuchsthat is also configurable in hexchat11:06
jeremiesor something like that11:06
Fuchsas far as I am aware it has to be the same as your registered nick in order to get SASL to work, but it's definitely configureable in hexchat  (and every other sane client)11:06
FuchsI'm rather sure the config is called "username" in hexchat, where you configure the network as well11:07
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jeremiesFuchs: thank you very much I will try that11:07
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zoli__hello, i have installed clementine music player, but I can only start it from command line, it is missing from the dash menu11:22
zoli__altough there is a dekstop file for that, but it seems it is somehow not considered11:23
zoli__why is that?11:23
zoli__/usr/share/applications/clementine.desktop11:23
Tin_manzoli__, how did you install it?11:24
zoli__Tin_man: via Synaptic11:24
zoli__and not as a snap app11:24
zoli__when i try to start it and type clementine in the gnome3 app search box, it only offers me another clementine to install as as snap app, instead of showing the already installed clemetine. The 2 apps have different icons too11:26
Tin_manhmm, don't know, does it show up as a removable Application?11:26
zoli__in synaptic? yes11:27
Tin_mani have also 2 different versions in the Ubuntu Software center11:27
zoli__yes11:27
zoli__there are 2 vesions11:28
zoli__1 is a snap app, the other is the nomal app11:28
zoli__i installed the normal app11:28
Tin_manmaybe try removing it, and install the other one. :) just a guess..11:28
zoli__yeah, but i dont want to use the snap version :)11:28
zoli__it takes up much more space11:28
zoli__as well as memeory11:29
Tin_manhave you tried rebooting? again just a shot in the dark..11:29
hadifarnoudis there a way to prevent root password change in scenarios like rescue mode?11:29
zoli__sure, i have installed it several days ago11:30
zoli__hadifarnoud: no11:30
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Tin_mandon't know boritek, maybe remove, re-install.. that is the only option I can come up with.11:34
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bolerohello11:42
ioriaboritek, Tools -> Preferences -> Behaviour -> "When Clementine starts ... Always show the main window"11:43
T3ll0ll3thmm11:46
opentextHi there!11:47
JimBuntuHi opentext . If this is your first time here ( or such ), this is a support channel for Ubuntu and official flavors. If you need help, please post your question. If you want to be helpful then I thank you.11:49
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boritekioria: that is already set, but the problem here is that, I the app icon does not show up at all in my dash menu11:52
ioriaboritek, you mean you cannot see the icon or it does not start from dash but only from terminal ?11:53
opentextthank you. just trying to be helpful :)11:54
boritekioria: i cannot see the icon, so I cannot start it either, I can only start it from the command line11:54
ioriaboritek,    sudo apt install --reinstall clementine11:54
boritekthe weird thing is that i can see 2 desktop files:11:55
boritek/usr/share/app-install/desktop/clementine:clementine.desktop11:55
boritek/usr/share/applications/clementine.desktop11:55
boriteki renamed the first one, to /usr/share/app-install/desktop/clementine:clementine.desktop2 and restarted gnome-shell11:55
boritekbut it didnt help either11:55
ioriaboritek,    you can always make a custom launche in  ~/.local/share/applications11:56
boritekioria: reinstalling didnt help me either11:56
ioriaboritek,   revert the changes you did first11:57
boritekioria: do you also have both of these files?11:58
ioriaboritek,   yes11:58
boritekreinstalling didnt provide the /usr/share/app-install/desktop/clementine:clementine.desktop file11:58
ioriaboritek,   ps -A | grep clem11:59
boriteki can see only my renamed old file /usr/share/app-install/desktop/clementine:clementine.desktop211:59
boritekioria: it does not run atm11:59
ioriaboritek,   usually you don't need to rename those files12:00
RyviusHello, I'd like to use my nVidia card for GPU encoding, but with this guide from 2016 I'll need to rebuild ffmpeg and stuff... has anything easier been developed since then? https://www.maketecheasier.com/nvidias-gpu-assisted-video-encoding-nvenc-work-ubuntu/12:00
boritekioria: what is that file btw?12:00
ioriaboritek,    .desktop files ; an application gets registered into the desktop's menus through a desktop entry12:02
boritekioria: i know, I mean that destop file in that different folder in /usr/share/app-install/desktop/12:03
boritekand the desktop file in there is differentr than the one in /usr/share/applications/12:04
ioriaboritek,    those are installed by the app-install-data Install app-install-data package.12:04
ioria!info  app-install-data12:04
boriteki wonder why are they different12:04
ubottuapp-install-data (source: app-install-data-ubuntu): Ubuntu applications (data files). In component main, is optional. Version 15.10 (bionic), package size 14694 kB, installed size 45266 kB12:04
ioriaboritek,    they have additional metadata added for things like popularity counts and search keywords12:05
qwebirc59278hey there, i just erased debian of my laptop and installed ubuntu, however, i have two problems. First, i seem to not have a right click function right now, is there any specific packagse i should get ?12:05
ioriaboritek,    but that it's not the point here12:05
qwebirc59278second, i also have an ssd in my laptop which used to have windows installed. since i didnt have a big enough usb stick i decided to not install windows. its still installed on the ssd tho. is there a way to reach that SSD_12:06
boritekioria: I purged, autoremoved it (for the dependencies) and installed it again12:07
boritekbut didnt help12:07
ioriaboritek,     make a custom launche in  ~/.local/share/applications  just for test12:07
boritekioria: the custom local one works12:08
boritekbut no clue why the central desktop one does not12:09
ioriaboritek,    did you edit it ?12:09
boritekno12:09
boritekjust copied it over12:09
ppfusing a newer gcc from ubuntu-toolchain-r doesn't work either because reasons :(12:09
ppfso the only thing i _can_ do is downgrade12:09
boritekioria: from /usr/share/applications/clementine.desktop12:09
ppfbut: https://ghostbin.com/paste/9dpcz12:10
ioriaboritek,   it's the only app that behaves like that ?12:10
boritekyes12:11
ioriaboritek,  yes, makes no sense for me atm12:14
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filifunkHi, everytime I boot up my computer I have to go to the terminal and run pulseaudio in order to get sound.  Is there a place I can tell the computer to run it automatically when I boot it up?12:18
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Ryviusfilifunk: You using Gnome? You have something called "Gnome tweak tool"?12:45
adroit_machine‎ A few days back I installed ubuntu on a small parition. I now want to move the ubuntu to a different partition, is it possible?12:47
ppfadroit_machine: sure12:48
adroit_machineppf: How do I do that? I have differnt swap and root parition, but I don't want swap parition anymore, plus I want to move the root partition to a differetn parition12:49
ppfsure, just copy the stuff12:50
adroit_machineppf: copy the directories and stuff? It would be really helpful if you can point to an online resource with how to's12:51
ppfthat you'll have to google yourself, i have none12:52
filifunkRyvius:  I don't know what gnome is, is it like an add on to ubuntu?12:53
neo-a-geekhi12:53
neo-a-geekWho know how to configure apache2?12:54
neo-a-geekwhat the web server choose to use?12:55
filifunkRyvius:  I'll look into that...I gotta go tho12:55
filifunkRyvius: thanks12:55
ZexaronHello13:05
Zexaronwhere do I configure keyboard locale option for the live version? Trying to make a custom ISO13:06
Zexaronas well as timezone13:06
Tuoradroit_machine: if the same partition is on the same disc, you can copy all files into a new partition (with the same FS) and you will have to configure grub.13:08
garrettkajmowiczI've installed Ubuntu 18.04 in a VirtualBox VM. I'm attempting and failing to collect a core dump. I get the initial panic on the console, but then the system hangs rather than attempting to load the dump kernel. How might I go about getting kernel core dumps working? I followed this guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/kernel-crash-dump.html.en13:13
WhoAmIhy brother13:17
adroit_machineTuor: Could you please give commands and tell how to configure grub?13:30
Terminaladroit_machine: https://www.howtogeek.com/196655/how-to-configure-the-grub2-boot-loaders-settings/13:31
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TuorYou will have to read documentation and inform your self, I can't give you step by step instructions, it is very dependent on your environment.13:33
adroit_machineok Tuor. Can you point to an online resource?13:34
Terminaldid you see my link adroit_machine ?13:36
Terminalhttps://www.howtogeek.com/196655/how-to-configure-the-grub2-boot-loaders-settings/13:36
adroit_machineyes Terminal13:39
adroit_machineI'm a little confused, Terminal. After I copy all the files to destination partition, should I boot the computer using live cd or what? how does that work?13:39
adroit_machine"startup disc creator" is not available in kubuntu. How do I make a bootable usb?13:44
JadedJHi13:46
JadedJWhat is the best way to install packages that are no longer in the ubuntu package database?13:47
leftyfbJadedJ: It's recommended you don't.13:47
leftyfbJadedJ: what package are you referring to?13:47
m4thbonjour13:48
JadedJI'm trying to install the package honeyD that is no longer available13:48
JadedJhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/honeyd13:48
leftyfbm4th: we only speak English hre.13:48
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JadedJThe source code is available here13:49
JadedJhttp://www.honeyd.org/release.php13:49
leftyfbJadedJ: that project hasn't been updated in over 10 years13:49
m4thho ok thanks im soory for disturbing ,i find the french canal for ubuntu please13:49
JadedJ"Honeyd should compile and run on *BSD systems, GNU/Linux and Solaris"13:49
qwebirc81659hey there, my ubuntu doesnt recognize my ssd, how can i fix that_ it still has windows installed but id like to format it13:49
leftyfbJadedJ: Someone thinking about getting into security should understand that installing/running such a thing is a bad idea13:50
leftyfbJadedJ: https://github.com/DataSoft/Honeyd/issues/91#issuecomment-17511572913:51
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Guest81075hey guys13:51
Guest81075when i try to install ubuntu after ubuntu logo i get a black screen but when i use flash light on my screen i barely able to see a menu which ask to install or try13:53
Guest81075what should i do13:53
geirhachoose try13:55
JadedJleftyfb: Thanks for your replies13:56
RyviusGuest81075: tried turning the brightess up?13:57
Guest81075yes13:57
Guest81075but no +ve result13:57
tomayhello13:58
tomayWhen I upgraded to ubuntu 18.04, the UPower hibernate on critical battery is no longer triggering! Any clues!13:59
Sparky-UKHi, has anyone got any experience with "getrlimit: Function not implemented" after an upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04?13:59
JadedJleftyfb: I was wanting to install honeyD purely to test it out14:00
thearkonhello everyone i have a issue.. when i install ubuntu server 18.04 on a desktop machine with a nas harddrive .. when i restart the machine after the install is done i go into grub rescue mode .. ?? any ideas ??14:02
ppfthearkon: what's the error message14:03
thearkonlet me boot up .. hang on.14:04
thearkonthe error message is attempt to read or write outside of disk "hd0"14:05
ppfwhat do you mean with 'nas harddrive' btw?14:05
thearkonan actual nas hard drive .. instead of a regular everyday hard drive14:07
ppfah14:07
ppfthat's just a marketing term, it's a regular everyday harddrive14:07
thearkonhaha yes..14:08
leftyfbJadedJ: you'll need to compile it then. But according to that github page, people weren't having much luck14:08
ppfthearkon: did you install ubuntu in legacy or efi mode?14:08
ppfgot anything on that disk besides ubuntu?14:08
thearkonnope it was a fresh install .14:09
thearkonim trying to get a fog project machine. for inside the office here..14:09
thearkonhttps://fogproject.org/14:10
ppfdid you install ubuntu in legacy or efi mode?14:10
thearkonlol14:11
thearkonum .. legacy..14:11
VozivHello, I have spotify, slack, and phpstorm installed as snaps but when I try to run them after a reboot I get "snap-confine has elevated permissions and is not confined but should be. Refusing to continue to avoid permission escalation attacks". I'm running on Ubuntu 18.04.1.14:11
ppfthearkon: can you reinstall in efi mode? or is your machine too old for that?14:11
tomayany help here14:12
tomayplease14:12
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thearkonits a old hp ..14:13
thearkonso probably not.14:13
thearkonwould ide to raid matter ?? for the install ??14:14
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ppfwhat could work is if you move the /boot partition closer to the beginning of the disk14:17
ppfcan you boot the live disk and paste us the partition table?14:17
thearkonyeah i can do that ..14:19
tomreynalso, is it just this one disk, or multiple? lvm? software raid?14:21
thearkonits just this one disk.. a 4tb..14:22
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thearkoni think i might have to manually format the partitions . for linux install to work..14:25
vltHello. How can I run two instances of a program like entangle?14:29
nicomachus!info entangle14:30
ubottuentangle (source: entangle): Tethered Camera Control & Capture. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.2-1ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 354 kB, installed size 2515 kB14:30
nicomachusvlt: not sure if you could run two instances of that on one machine if it's tied into camera hardware.14:30
vltnicomachus: I can choose which camera to talk to.14:31
nicomachusrun it from a terminal, open a new terminal and try to run a second instance.14:31
vltAlready tried that.14:31
vltDidn't run another one.14:31
vltCan anyone recommend another tool that will let me show live camera footage from DSLR cameras connected via USB cable (using libgphoto2, I think)?14:33
linux8659 hi ,is there an option somewhere to add a second timezone ,can t find that in default 18.0414:34
blackflowlinux8659: I don't think so. If there's a way, it's specific to a program that explicitely knows how to handle multiple TZs14:36
leftyfblinux8659: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/605/multiclock/14:37
linux8659mate has it ,along with an easy suspend button access ,it s a shame14:37
tomreynthearkon: wont work if you'll be creating the partitions before you start the server live installer. (with the alternative installer it should work, and so should manual partitioning from within the server live installer, for the most part)14:38
blackflowlinux8659: so you're actually asking about what leftyfb linked, a wall _clock_ with multiple TZs? because "add a second timezone" question implies adding another /etc/timezone or another level to it, which doesn't work....14:40
JadedJBefore installing livevent in ubuntu 16, what do I need to do?14:40
JadedJhttp://libevent.org/14:41
linux8659thanks14:41
adroitMachineHi, I'm trying to copy existing linux partition to a new parition with this command: cp -a /dev/sda6/* /dev/sda8/*, but it is throwing this error: cp: failed to acess 'dev/sda8/*': Not a director14:41
JadedJDo I only need to install the package 'build-essential' first?14:42
adroitMachineCan anybody tell me what am i doing wrong/14:42
nicomachusadroitMachine: that is NOT how you clone a partition.14:42
blackflowadroitMachine: /dev/sda*  are not directories, but block devices. you can't use cp like that. now, what do you want to do, block-level copy, or filesystem copy?14:42
linux8659androitmachine use command dd14:43
thearkoni think i used the wrong installer. used the amd64 live one instead of the 86 installer14:44
adroitMachineblackflow: I have no idea,  I was trying to migrate existing partition to a new partition. I saw on internet tutorial.14:44
nicomachuslinux8659: that's a very powerful command and one that you shouldn't just tell someone to use without also telling them to carefully read the man page and use extreme caution when actually executing the command.14:44
leftyfbJadedJ: linevent is part of ubuntu14:44
adroitMachinenicomachus: can you please tell how?14:44
leftyfblibevent*14:44
linux8659sure ,yet it is not hard to learn14:44
adroitMachineI'm trying to migrate existing installation to a new bigger installation14:44
nicomachusadroitMachine: carefully read the man page for dd.14:45
nicomachus!info dd14:45
ubottuPackage dd does not exist in bionic14:45
nicomachus-_-14:45
leftyfb!info coreutils14:45
ubottucoreutils (source: coreutils): GNU core utilities. In component main, is required. Version 8.28-1ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 1275 kB, installed size 7092 kB14:45
blackflowit's not as simple as using just dd14:45
blackflowadroitMachine: simplest thing to do would be to mount both partitions somewhere (eg. to /mnt/src and /mnt/dest) and then use rsync between them.14:45
adroitMachinenicomachus: in the kde partition manager it is showing /dev/sda8 as mounted14:46
adroitMachineblackflow: the partiotions are mounted I think. I opened the once in the dolphin file manager14:46
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linux8659anyway to make the file copying be in a queue ,in gnome ,like it is in mate?14:47
pragmaticenigmalinux8659: A queue in what way?14:47
blackflowif you dd the partition, you block-copy the filesystem on it, which means its' gonna think it's the same size. And you mentioned you want to migrate "existing installation to a new bigger installation"14:47
linux8659you can copy paste files ,it doesn t run the copying simultaneously but queue them14:48
thearkonugh.. i give up .. ...14:48
linux8659when first copy finishes the next starts ,love that in mate14:48
thearkoni might go with centos..14:49
leftyfblinux8659: why not just run mate?14:50
adroitMachinePlease help me with cloning an existing kubuntu partition14:51
linux8659I m discovering gnome after years of resistance and like the looks of it ,gnome extensions makes it ok now14:51
lotuspsychjethearkon: what has the choice of architecture to do with choice of Os?14:52
thearkonlotuspsychje: well trying to setup a fog server ...14:53
blackflowadroitMachine: if both partitions are mounted, do you know their paths?14:53
lotuspsychjethearkon: ok..and how is this related to ubuntu?14:54
blackflowadroitMachine: you could use   rsync -a /src/path/ /dst/path/       using proper paths, both WITH trailing slashes. might need to use sudo for that14:54
adroitMachineblackflow: yes, I can see the path in kde partition manager: /dev/sda6 and /dev/sda814:54
blackflowadroitMachine: no, those are block devices, not mounted filesystems14:54
thearkontrying to install ubuntu server . 18.04.1 live server. on a hp old desktop14:54
adroitMachineblackflow: I'm on kubuntu live cd, how do I know the path of filesystems?14:55
lotuspsychjethearkon: ok great, have you tryed #ubuntu-server ?14:55
pragmaticenigmalinux8659: I do not believe nautilus has a feature or setting for "queueing" file copying.14:55
blackflowadroitMachine: for example, you could create two dirs:    mkdir /mnt/src    and  mkdir /mnt/dest      then mount      mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/src     and like that to 8   (assuming 6 is source and 8 is destination)14:55
thearkonlotuspsychje: hehe no let me try that .. lol14:55
linux8659thanks14:56
adroitMachineblackflow: Ok, I'm going to do that14:56
blackflowadroitMachine: please make sure you understand what these commands are doing before you copy&paste them14:56
blackflowadroitMachine: which filesystems are those, btw? what's on them?14:56
adroitMachineblackflow: the filesystem is ext414:57
newbie|3test14:57
pragmaticenigmalinux8659: This article talks about installing a differnt file utility that has an extension that will work with nautilus. It also appears everything you need /should/ be in universe. Take a look: https://askubuntu.com/a/55482114:58
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adroitMachineblackflow: /dev/sda6 is the existing kubuntu installation with ext4, and /dev/sda8 is an empty ext4 partition14:58
pragmaticenigmaStephanieT, newbie|3: Do you have an Ubuntu related support question14:58
thearkonleaving here bye everyone14:58
blackflowadroitMachine: right, so you mount sda6 to /mnt/src   and sda8 to /mnt/dest    and then:   rsync -a /mnt/src/ /mnt/dest/      (again, note the trailing slashes)14:59
lotuspsychjeStephanieT: welcome to ubuntu support, how can we help you?14:59
adroitMachineblackflow: I mounted both the partitions, but i'm still getting the same error: "cp: failed to access '/dev/sda8/*' : Not a directory"14:59
blackflowadroitMachine: btw is that OS root you're copying?14:59
blackflowadroitMachine: why are you running that? I never told you to do that.15:00
adroitMachineblackflow: oh, I missed the rsync part, i will do itagain15:00
adroitMachineblackflow: I'm trying to migrate kubuntu to a bigger partition, i'm referring to this resource: https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/copy-your-linux-install-different-partition-or-drive15:00
blackflowadroitMachine: right. I asked because then don't forget to adjust /etc/fstab and any other config pertaining to the filesystem you're moving.15:02
linux8659pragmaticenigma thanks ,but it s not in the ub repo ,and it looks like it comes from the windows world (ultracopier) ,plus the page is old (14.04)15:02
blackflowfstab, crypttab, dunno what else you've got there. and grub will have to be updated too15:02
VozivIf I run "snap run slack" from my command line I also get "snap-confine has elevated permissions and is not confined but should be. Refusing to continue to avoid permission escalation attacks"15:02
adroitMachineblackflow: do I need to use sudo for the rsync command? because I can see in the terminal that there are some errors like: failed Permission denied15:03
blackflowadroitMachine: yes. and for the mkdir previously, for the mountpoints in /mnt/15:03
pragmaticenigmalinux8659: It appears someone has been maintaining the answer (edit in 2017) thought it might help point you in the right direction15:04
adroitMachineblackflow: I didnt use sudo  for mkdir, but I can see that a folder is created already15:04
adroitMachineblackflow: I'm stopping the rsync command. Gonna do it over again with sudo mkdir15:05
linux8659pragmaticenigma  thanks15:05
blackflowadroitMachine: what exactly did you type? because  /mnt/src   and   /mnt/dest   should not exist by default15:05
blackflowadroitMachine: I did warn you not to do this without  understanding what you're doing. if you lose your data, that's entirely on YOU.15:06
adroitMachineblackflow: I did sudo mkdir, but it was so far up the terminal that I thought I didn't sudo it. My bad. But the problem is that when I do sudo rsync -a /mnt/src /mnt/dest, the konsole just hangs without any output15:07
add1ctusHeya. When I use my wireless (bluetooth) headphones on Ubuntu 18.04 I'm having lower volume compared to Windows 10 on the same machine. Over-amplification ruins sound quality and alsamixer has everything on max volume. Any ideas how to fix it?15:07
blackflowadroitMachine: of course, it's copying data.   add -v to see the paths as they're copied15:08
blackflowadroitMachine: and I really hope you typo'd here in irc, as I told you several times to be careful about trailing slashes.15:08
lotuspsychjeadd1ctus: a few ideas: try a pulseaudio restart, test also with pavucontrol or doublecheck your settings with !sound15:09
adroitMachineblackflow: yes it is copying all the files in src folder and not on the partition itself, what would I do once the copying is finished/15:11
lotuspsychjeVoziv: have you tryed contacting the slack maintainer yet?15:11
blackflowadroitMachine: the partition is mounted to the src folder isn't it?15:12
add1ctus!sound15:12
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.15:12
adroitMachineblackflow: there's two folder in the target partition: dest and src. The file are being copied onto src15:13
blackflowadroitMachine: that's not..... "target partition". do you mean in /mnt/  ?15:13
Vozivlotuspsychje: Nope, but this also happens with phpstorm, spotify, and htop snaps as well15:13
adroitMachineblackflow: I'm a little confused here. I can't show you because the irc is opened on a different computer. What I mean is I thought the files would be copied onto the new partition itself not  in some folder created on the new partition15:15
blackflowadroitMachine: then you didn't listen what I was telling you to do. especially, you didn't understand what the commands do. I warned you several times.15:15
blackflowadroitMachine: so from the beginning:  you want copy files from sda6 to sda8, correct?15:16
adroitMachineblackflow: Yes, correct15:16
blackflowadroitMachine: then you mount sda6 to /mnt/src   and sda8 to /mnt/dest. you first need to mkdir those dirs in /mnt/15:16
adroitMachineblackflow: yes I did sudo mkdir in /mnt15:16
blackflowadroitMachine: after you mount them you run rsync like this:    rsync -va /mnt/src/ /mnt/dest/      ok? mind the trailing slashes after src/  so:   /mnt/src/   and not   /mnt/src15:16
blackflowadroitMachine: if you did those three things (mkdir + mount + rsync) then you should be copying files from sda6 to sda815:17
adroitMachineblackflow: just a sec15:18
adroitMachineblackflow: I will do it over again, first let me format the partition again. Sorry for the misunderstanding15:19
blackflowadroitMachine: you'll have to unmount it first.    umount /dev/sda8       or by mounted path:    umount /mnt/dest/15:20
adroitMachineok blackflow15:20
tkellyI recently found that neither 18.04 or the 18.10 nightly can boot on the new Intel NUC8i7HNK. Where is the right place to report that as a "bug?" I noticed that Arch 2018.08.01 which happens to be using kernel 4.17.11 can boot it.15:21
adroitMachineblackflow: there is an error: umount: mnt: target is busy15:21
blackflowtkelly: any errors visible during booting? I'm tempted to say file against the kernel, but that needn't be the case15:21
blackflowadroitMachine: do you have any open files there? is your shell currently cd'd into that path?15:22
mustmodifyContinuing with my production issue affecting 200+ users... my buffer is 5GB, total memory is 7.5GB.15:22
tkellyIt gets to the very first menu (GRUB?) and then goes blank no matter what you select, which is why I suspect the kernel. early_printk gave nothing15:22
mustmodifyFirst, is there an easy way to clear that out?15:22
adroitMachineblackflow: no, nothing is open, I even closed the dolphin. Just the terminal is open15:22
mustmodifySecond, how do I triage that? I feel like our software must have introduced a memory leak, but I wouldn't expect that to increase the OS buffer... but I don't really know enough about that to speak intelligently about it.15:23
lotuspsychjemustmodify: if you want your issue sorted, please add all the details in one line to channel15:23
lotuspsychje!details | mustmodify15:23
ubottumustmodify: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.15:23
blackflowadroitMachine: does `lsof /mnt/dest`  show any output?15:23
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blackflowtkelly: tried booting with no "splash" and "quiet"  keywords in kernel command line?15:24
adroitMachineblackflow: Yes, there's a warnign: cant stat() tracefs file system /sys/kernel/debug/tracing output information may be incomplete15:24
mustmodifydetails... well, here's a screen shot of top. https://media.trillian.im/media/?m=aW1hZ2UvcG5nLDE0MjksNDc4LO%2BkFcLMANYGXr58NZkSd59j6d85RT1lrbz8P1ofTgCu15:25
blackflowadroitMachine: I think rebooting to the live env would be faster than trying to debug what's up with that :)15:25
mustmodifyI'm on 16.04.315:25
adroitMachineok blackflow15:25
blackflowadroitMachine: I'm assuming you're doing this from the kubuntu live iso?15:25
lotuspsychjemustmodify: update your system to latest please15:26
tkellyblackflow: Honestly, I've been playing around with Debian too (same issue) and I don't remember what I've tried on Debian vs Ubuntu. I'll try with no splash and quiet on Ubuntu before filing a bug against the kernel.15:26
jjetkelly: i have a NUC8i7HNK and got 18.04 to boot by initially using nomodeset in kernel command line.15:26
adroitMachineyes, blackflow . One more thing, which one is right: sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/src or sudo mount /dev/sda6/ mnt/src/15:26
blackflowmustmodify: also, what's the actual problem? that's just a screenie of top....15:26
blackflowadroitMachine: /mnt has to start with the slash as that's the full system path15:27
tkellyjje: Awesome! I'll try that.15:27
lotuspsychjemustmodify: ubuntu 16.04.5 is out..15:27
blackflowadroitMachine: no starting slash means it's relative to whatever directory you're currently in.15:27
adroitMachineblackflow: what about the trailing slash in /mnt/src/?15:27
GreenDimondSo I just booted up this morning and for whatever reason, Display 0 (My first monitor) is stuck at 640x480 resolution and there is no larger display options.15:28
blackflowadroitMachine: the trailing slash (at the end of /mnt/src/)  is about rsync, it tells the rsync to copy files from _under_ that dir, otherwise it'll copy that dir over so you'd have /mnt/dest/src/....  as the result.15:28
adroitMachineblackflow: because in the rsync command trailing slash are important, I was just wondering about the traling slash in mnt command15:28
blackflowadroitMachine: more about rsync and paths is available in the rsync manpage:  `man rsync`15:28
blackflowadroitMachine: in mount the trailing slash makes no difference15:29
adroitMachineok thanks blackflow. Can I boot into the original kubuntu and copy the directory from there? would that be easy?15:29
mustmodifythe problem is that we're seeing "out of memory" which results in killing puma, our web server. I had assumed our software had a memory leak. But in the screen shot above, you can see that of 7.x GB of ram, a majority of it is in the buffer. I don't know enough about the buffer to even say whether that could be a memory leak or some kind of OS issue. 4.4.0-1057-aws15:29
blackflowadroitMachine: not really as the OS root has stuff mounted on itself (like /dev, /sys, /proc) so you'd have to do it differently. plus, live OS has stuff changing so it wouldn't be an atomic copy, possibly even some files corrupt15:30
blackflowadroitMachine: the live env approach is the correct one. an alternative to rsync is using dd with block devices, but then you'd have to resize the partition, check uuid conflicts etc...15:31
adroitMachineok blackflow . Thanks for the info. I'm doing the copy all over again, starting with formating the sda815:31
blackflowmustmodify: is that a modified aws kernel? is that even ubuntu?15:32
blackflowmustmodify: anyway looking at top might not be sufficient. you could have transient memory spikes never registered in top, that invoke the oom killer15:32
mustmodifyCan you help me to understand a bit more about that?15:33
Vozivlotuspsychje: Just as an update, it seems apparmor was disabled on my machine, enabling that seems to have fixed it15:33
lotuspsychjeVoziv: ah nice, tnx for feedback!15:33
VozivI must have messed with it at some point, no clue15:34
blackflowmustmodify: not sure what you need to understand more. top has refresh passes. a memory spike can be quick and can occur between two top passes.15:34
blackflowmustmodify: personally, I'd limit services so that cumulatively their limits don't pass over available RAM. or else you're overselling and that's bad15:35
mustmodifyblackflow: what increases the buffer size? Is that something the app can do? Or is that an OS function?15:36
blackflowmustmodify: what buffer?15:37
mustmodifyIs it more likely to do with number of open files, or the heap, or ... just ... how do things get into what's being measured there?15:37
mustmodifyI ask because this number, buff/cache, is large and hasn't been in the past. At the same time, I'm seeing memory issues, So that seems like something I should drill into.15:39
blackflowmustmodify: no swap, rihgt? maybe you should add some15:40
mustmodifyTypically I would ask Google and read a lot. But right now I'm facing an issue in production where every  hour or so, the server dies. So time is not really on my side. :(15:40
blackflowmustmodify: okay so then limit RSS per service via their systemd unit files15:41
blackflowmustmodify: then a process that tries to allocate more will fail, and will probably error out or segfault and that's how you'll know what's eating more than it should. at least it won't bring down your entire machine, esp. if you instruct systemd to restart failed services.15:41
mustmodifyOK! I don't know what that means but it sounds like something I can act on. And `df` shows no swap file, which ... is odd.15:42
mustmodifyso I can look into both of those. Thank you VERY much!15:42
blackflowmustmodify: why do you run a server if you don't understand what that means......15:42
mustmodifyI'm a dev.15:42
blackflowwhere's the sysop?15:42
blackflowI mean it's one thing if your personal computing has these issues but then you don't have the urgency of "halp! 200+ users are affected".15:43
mustmodifyIn the past I have been able to kind of wing it. As this app grows, it seems like I might need someone with more expertise.15:43
blackflowif these states appear and shouldn't be, you need a trained sysop.15:43
mustmodifyAgree.15:43
mustmodifyI agree.15:43
blackflowokay so meanwhile, add the RSS limits to services (start with that memory hog of a ruby app) and see which one fails. make sure the limits cumulatively don't go beyond system RAM15:44
blackflowmustmodify: also add swap.15:44
metrumHi guys! I just updated my distro from 16.04 LTS to 18.04. It's dual-booted beside Win 10, and anytime I want to open one of the Window's drives, it requires password. In 16.04 LTS I didn't have to type my pwd. Can I turn it off?15:45
adroitMachineblackflow: I did like rsync the way you told me but it is still copying all the files under the src directory. Do I need to "mv" all files after the copying is finished?15:45
blackflowadroitMachine: what do you mean "copy all the files under the src directory"?15:45
blackflowadroitMachine: pastebin exact commands you're using and first few lines of that `rsync -va ...` command15:46
adroitMachinein the target partition(the partition where i want all the files from destination) there's a folder called "src" and all the files are being  copied into it15:46
blackflowfirst few lines of its output15:46
thesebhelp! i didn't properly shutdown and now ubuntu VM won't start15:46
thesebwhat should i do15:46
adroitMachineblackflow: I can't unfortunately, I'm on a differnt computer but i can give you the commadn i typed in the console. Just a sec15:46
blackflowadroitMachine: is there network? you can use wgetpaste or pipe outputs to    | nc termbin.com 9999     then paste here the URL you get15:47
adroitMachineblackflow: sudo rsync -va /mnt/src/ /mnt/dest/15:47
blackflowor pastebinit.... I don't know which one is preferred nowadays, wgetpaste or pastebinit15:47
adroitMachineI did this^15:47
blackflowadroitMachine: okay, so that's copying files from src/ to dest/   isn't that what you wanted?15:47
adroitMachineI'm going to try to paste bin, blackflow15:48
adroitMachineblackflow: no I wanted to copy all the files from /dev/sda6 to /dev/sda815:48
blackflowadroitMachine: but did you mount sda6 to src and   sda8 to dest?15:48
adroitMachineyes, I did, blackflow. That's wht I'm trying to tell you. The copying is being done in src folder which is located in /dev/sda815:49
blackflowadroitMachine: then you ARE copying from sda6 to sda8 .... you're copying files from their respective filesystems. that's exactly what you want.15:49
blackflowadroitMachine: what do you mean "src folder is located in /dev/sda8" ?? if you did what you say you did, then this doesn't make any sense.15:50
blackflowmkdir + mount + rsync.  sda6 to src,  sda8 to dest. rsync FROM src/ TO dest/. that's it.15:50
adroitMachineok blackflow just a sec. I will try to explain the whole thing15:50
adroitMachineblackflow, when i open /dev/sda8 partition in file manager, there are two folders: lost+found and src. The files are being copied in src folder. What I want is to copy all the files in the main partition itself not under any folder15:52
blackflowadroitMachine: if you ran     rsync -va /mnt/src/ /mnt/dest/     _exactly_ as typed here (previously mounting sda6 to /mnt/src  and sda8 to /mnt/dst),   then that's not possible. I think you missed the trailing slash on src/15:54
CarbonmeHello and Good day, I recovering from an infection on of my Linux system , any other precautions besides scanning with clam-av before I recover my files.15:54
mustmodifyblackflow: Do I still want a swap drive if I'm using SSD?15:54
adroitMachineblackflow: ok the internet is working in the laptop. What command do you want me to pastebin?15:54
blackflowmustmodify: yeah, why no. the old myths of ssd and swap should be buried unless you have years old SSD with no modern wear leveling tech. SSDs these days go well into hundreds of TB written15:54
blackflow*why not15:55
mustmodifyok, just wanted to verify.15:55
blackflowmustmodify: https://techreport.com/review/27909/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-theyre-all-dead   and that's 3 years old by now.15:55
leftyfbCarbonme: define infection15:55
mustmodifyBut swap space is typically for for drastic overflow situations, right? That's in my head, though I can't remember any details.15:55
mustmodifyObviously I'm having drastic memory problems, so...15:56
blackflowmustmodify: "drastic overflow" is exactly what you have here, from what I gather :)15:56
mustmodifyright15:56
blackflowthat is, "stuff that should happen before OOM kicks in"15:56
AdroitMachine_blackflow: I'm on the irc network. Are there any commands you want me to paste? so that I can show you what I mean15:56
mustmodifybut am I correct in thinking that in an optimal situation, a swapfile would be almost unused?15:56
blackflowmustmodify: PLUS, having swap to page out unused RAM even without memory pressure is a good thing. ruby can benefit from that a lot as it tends to load a gazillion of dependencies that just sit in the RAM unused, so they get paged out15:57
blackflowmustmodify: no. there's always some pages that are unused and that the kernel evicts to swap15:57
blackflow_always_15:57
mustmodifyok15:57
GreenDimondWhat is the latest Nvidia driver for ubuntu?15:57
blackflowAdroitMachine_: yes, the rsync command and first (say) 10 lines of its output.15:57
CarbonmeCD drive keeps opening when I come near it, also the window machine I was using with dual boot also got an infection via email earlier, so I assume it somewhat spread, I just want to get back my ebooks, music, and databases16:02
AdroitMachine_blackflow: sorry for the delay. The output was too far up. Yes, I did miss a slash after src. Can I do rm -rf in the partition and start over again?16:02
blackflowAdroitMachine_: yes.  `ls -la /mnt/dest`   will verify there's nothing there after you rm -rf. please be careful, don't use * but name the two dirs specifically for rm. and hit enter after you've double-checked it's correct.16:03
leftyfbCarbonme: your linux desktop was not infected from Windows16:04
AdroitMachine_blackflow: but I did *. Should I stop the rsync command?16:04
leftyfbCarbonme: I'm going to guess it wasn't infected at all. But either way, reinstall from scratch and restore from backups16:04
superman1I just upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04 and I was seeing lightdm fail to load and purple screen hang. I went to ctrl+alt+f2 and did a reinstall of lightdm. After reboot I am stuck at login-loop and no network. I only see loopback interface in the ifconfig. ifconfig -a shows all the interfaces. Any suggestions?16:04
blackflowAdroitMachine_: nah. * is okay, that was just precaution from my end since you seem to lack experience and stuff can happen, esp. with rm -rf16:04
superman1I upgraded using do-release-upgrade16:05
ioriasuperman1, so gdm3 should be in use16:06
AdroitMachine_ok blackflow I'm relieved. I was kinda worried that * would do harm16:06
superman1ioria: i see what did I do wrong. Installing lightdm?16:07
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blackflowAdroitMachine_: nah, it's just that * is expanded by shell to mean "all files and dirs" under the part leading up to it, and that can be very destructive if you're not careful.16:07
ioriasuperman1, lightdm is default for 16.04, probably already installed16:07
CarbonmeThanks, then I should be fine, I will just scan the flies I need to take from system If there anything16:07
blackflowAdroitMachine_: for example thinking you're in one dir while you're in another and do rm-rf *16:08
mustmodifyblackflow: I have a swapfile set up. It isn't being used yet. Would you suggest something like this to purge the buffers, to encourage swapfile use if needed? `free && sync && echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches && free`16:08
AdroitMachine_blackflow: ok16:08
superman1I see. Any suggestions?16:08
blackflowmustmodify: no need, the kernel will use it as needed16:08
mustmodifyok16:08
naccmustmodify: why do you *want* to use swap?16:08
ioriasuperman1, start with  nomodeset  parameter16:09
blackflowalso dropping caches is useless sa well, kernel already treats them as volatile RAM, discardable and to be used elsewhere on demand16:09
blackflownacc: nasty OOMs on a prod server, hunting for the cause, this is just a temporary relief with swap, see backlog16:09
AdroitMachine_blackflow: I need to ask you one thing more. When I'm trying to open some directories which are already copied, there's a lock icon on the folder and when I try to enter in it it says" could not enter, permission denied"16:10
blackflow(so let's not confuse them with contradicting info on whether swap is needed or not ;) )16:10
naccblackflow: i meant to force use of swap, in this case, sorry16:11
blackflowAdroitMachine_: right, not all files and dirs are immediately readable to the user you're logged in as (even in live env, you're not root)16:11
AdroitMachine_ok blackflow.16:11
blackflownacc: ah. well that. forcing the paging out of stuff that's not immediately needed.  I mean, one way would be to ramp up swappiness, I suppose.16:11
naccblackflow: right, that seems the easier way16:12
blackflowwell echoing 3 to drop_caches is not about swap tho', it's about dropping fs caches, it won't actually free any RAM for apps to use, as that memory is already discardable16:12
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obinoobHi, I've added desktop gui to server 14.04 vm so i can manage a bunch of things etc, and I can't login as root even after: sudo passwd root and sudo passwd -u root16:22
striveobinoob: I hear you shouldn't log into a desktop environment as root; create a 'obinoob' user and add 'obinoob' to sudoers.16:24
obinoobstrive I've done that but can't login also16:25
striveobinoob: Have you done: 'passwd obinoob'16:25
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obinoobstrive: done ;)16:27
striveobinoob: Working?16:27
obinoobstrive: actually I've done that but I've deleted the user and added with: adduser newuser and used visudo16:28
strive...so it works now?16:28
striveobinoob: Are you in?16:29
obinoobstrive: yep ;)16:30
striveobinoob: Phew! Good stuff.16:30
striveobinoob: I put myself through torture sometimes. "Why isn't this working! Oh, I forgot this simple thing..."16:31
jjbugglehey all, I'm having trouble with my trackpad: when I try to 2 finger scroll, the mouse will jump all over the place16:32
jjbuggleI'm running xubuntu16:32
strivejjbuggle: It seems that your settings aren't correctly set? It's probably jumping because you need to set the two finger scroll.16:33
strivejjbuggle: synclient -l16:34
jjbugglestrive: ok, ill take a look, thanks16:34
jjbugglestrive: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bhqw7SSPFk/16:35
strivejjbuggle: Hmm...VertTwoFingerScroll = 116:36
strivejjbuggle: That's good.16:36
strivejjbuggle: I'm thinking it may have to do with one of the 'TapButton' parameters.16:37
jjbugglestrive: I am able to 2 finger scroll in general.  It just jumps around a lot.  At first I thought it was an issue with sensitivity, but changing the sennsitivity settings don't seem to make a difference.  So the 2 finger scroll itself is workinng16:37
jjbuggleyeah?16:37
strivejjbuggle: It could be the FingerLow parameter.16:42
strivejjbuggle: Gotta run.16:43
jjbugglestrive: ok, thanks16:43
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superman1so strangely after the do-release-upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04.01 I found that gdm3 was not installed.16:49
vlkwgnaccelerate16:50
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roadcleartest16:51
spaceplukhi, is there any tool that can generate a list of dependencies from a binary?16:52
obinoobI'm running qemu/kvm and virt manager to run a windows xp under ubuntu but sadly while installing the windows it pops out a "Insert Disk" Please insert Compact Disc labeled "Windows XP" ...16:53
obinoobmessage16:53
lotuspsychjesuperman1: did you not get the upgrade window?16:54
tomreynspacepluk: there's ldd. and there's this other utility which you should really be using since it doesnt execute code, which i forgot the name of.16:54
superman1lotuspsychje: It said everything is upgraded. Post the reboot it was stuck at purple screen. When Logged in using alt+f2 I check what was installed and found gdm3 was not.16:55
tomreynspacepluk: readelf -d executable | grep NEEDED16:56
lotuspsychjesuperman1: can you logout, and see at the gear icon wich ubuntu sessions available and wich you are in now? unity/xorg/wayland?16:57
tomreynobinoob: that's a bummer, but anot an #ubuntu topic.16:58
obinoobtomreyn: what you mean?16:58
superman1lotuspsychje: I am logged into console. the screen where you login does not load. thats the purple screen hang.16:58
tomreynobinoob: that you seenm to seek help with (or are commenting about) a windows issue in the wrong irc channel.16:59
obinoobtomreyn: this is a linux ubuntu and so on but if you prefer I can ask my wife16:59
spacepluktomreyn: thanks!16:59
lotuspsychjesuperman1: wich was your previous ubuntu flavor please?17:00
obinoobyah thanks17:00
superman116.0417:00
superman1lotuspsychje: ^^^^17:00
lotuspsychjesuperman1: gnome, kde,mate,budgie?17:00
lotuspsychjeunity?17:00
superman1lotuspsychje: unity,lightdm17:01
lotuspsychjesuperman1: ok try to install gdm3 manually perhaps17:01
superman1lotuspsychje: did that and rebooted. Now the networking is gone.17:01
lotuspsychjesuperman1: can you check if ubuntu-desktop is installed? apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop17:02
superman1it says installed: none candidate 1.41717:04
lotuspsychjesuperman1: ok try: sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop gdm317:05
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craigbass76Is there a way to decrypt .ssh/known_hosts so I can read it easily? I'm logging into a bunch of temporary servers, and I want to clean house every so often, but I can't read the file.17:09
craigbass76And I don't want to wipe out servers that I log into regularly17:09
tomreyncraigbass76: it's hashed, can't be reverted. what you can do is reove entries with ssh-keygen -R given that you provide the destination you used to connect. the other, and probably wiser, option is to not use hashing when connecting to temporary servers.17:11
Barabachahow can I move a window to a second workspace? dragging it doesn't seem to work17:11
tomreynBarabacha: i'm not sure but try alt + cursor keys17:14
lotuspsychjeBarabacha: works here, just tryed with terminal grab and slide to desktop217:15
craigbass76tomreyn, I don't see what you mean. One of my entries (looks lik ethe rest of them, with different characters) goes: |1|50ZYQf06Vskrx0/aJabEz9TY7iI=|7ZcnV1VIibmSU8RQg2JMhgOZy8o= ecdsa-sha2-nistp256 AAAAE2VjZHNhLXNoYTItbmlzdHAyNTYAAAAIbmlzdHAyNTYAAABBBFE+SyA2lQU/aTT5yn3FC+45njex9sQij2Tn2I20++vrQJzMQ6QjFBcdYE2ep0oqXMDQF5pP2ghadUuwjq/8Ets=17:16
craigbass76That's a temporary server, but another box right in my house is one of the earlier entries, and looks like that too.17:17
lotuspsychjeBarabacha: so activites/hover over desktop1/grab terminal/slide and let go desktop217:17
tomreyncraigbass76: do you want / need to hash the ssh keys of temporary servers?17:17
craigbass76No. I don't see where I'm prompted for or against though17:18
tomreyncraigbass76: you are not, but you can configure SSH not to hash the keys for some servers, such as based on the server name you type when connecting with ssh.17:20
craigbass76tomreyn, HashKnownHosts in ssh_config ?17:21
Barabachalotuspsychje: dragging and dropping doesn't work17:22
tomreyncraigbass76: yes, if you combine this with an ssh profile (using 'Host', which can accept wildcards), you can disable ssh host key fingerprint hashing for all matching hosts17:22
lotuspsychjeBarabacha: works here with me, you are on 18.04.1 ubuntu-desktop right?17:22
craigbass76Barabacha, lotuspsychje not sure if it applies, because I'm using Cinnamon, but I just grab the window, run my keyboard shortcut for switching desktops (mine is Ctrl Alt and R or L arrow), and the window comes with me.17:24
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adroitMachineI am trying to migrate ubuntu to a bigger partition, I have already copied all the files to the new partition. Next, I need to update UUID, how do I do that?17:31
superman1lotuspsychje: since there was no network I had restore from snapshot and redo this. Same symptom still after reboot.17:34
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tim42Hi all, my laptop makes a loud crackling sound when performing a shutdown. All relevant tips I can find seem outdated or pointing to files that don't exist on my Ubuntu 18 installation (such as /usr/lib/pm-utils/power.d/intel-audio-powersave). Someone here has had this problem too / knows how to fix it? Thanks :)18:00
birdfacemananyone here?18:03
JimBuntuyes birdfaceman18:03
adroitMachinehow do I update the UUID after migrating the kubuntu partition to a new one?18:04
birdfacemanwould you know how long a 160G external drive takes to format from inside of a live session usb key on a 200x era computer?  I've waited an hour the I can't even switch to one of the terminals to read dmesg18:06
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birdfacemanrough estimate?  means of checking progress? any thoughts?18:10
JimBuntubirdfaceman, what utility are you using to format it? Can you ssh into it?18:11
birdfacemanthe default installer, though, I did run it through gparted, which took a couple of minutes but vastly mistated the size18:12
birdfacemanoddly enough, adroitMachine, what utility are you using?  That's a right-click option in gparted18:15
ppfadroitMachine: edit /etc/fstab18:19
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adroitMachinebirdfaceman: I have restarted the laptop when I saw that all uuids were unique, but now when I booted into the new install other partitions are not showing18:22
birdfacemanfollowing ppf, I'd recommend checking if the new system's fstab knows of the other partitions18:24
adroitMachineok18:26
birdfacemanSo, I'm going with a bad thing happened and am going to fix my stuff; good luck adroitMachine18:27
adroitMachinethanks birdfaceman18:27
ppfbirdfaceman: regular format should take seconds18:28
ppfa deep format that actually overwrites the disks can take really long18:28
ppfesp. external18:28
d33tahhi!18:37
d33tahanyone here intimately familiar with dkms?18:37
ppfdefine intimate18:38
d33tahdkms --all autoinstall --verbose  2>&1 | tr -d '\n' gives me:18:38
d33tahError! Your kernel headers for kernel  cannot be found. Please install the linux-headers- package, or use the --kernelsourcedir option to tell DKMS where it's located18:38
d33tahI was trying to install 4.1818:38
leftyfbversion 4.18 of what?18:39
d33tahkernel18:39
d33tahgot the following packages installed: linux-headers-4.18.0-041800 linux-headers-4.18.0-041800-generic linux-image-unsigned-4.18.0-041800-generic linux-modules-4.18.0-041800-generic18:39
d33tahpulled from here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.18/18:39
leftyfbthat was released last week? Why do you think you need that kernel?18:39
d33tahleftyfb: my steam controller support broke and I wanted to see if the latest driver helps18:40
oerheksapt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) ... but the 4.18 from miainline is for testing only, no support18:40
d33tahoerheks: I think I already have headers and headers-generic installed18:40
d33tahwhat's weird about this error is the double spaces18:40
d33tahit looks as if the kernel version was not detected?18:41
d33tahI added --debug but it's painful to read18:41
leftyfbd33tah: kernels from mainly are not supported here18:41
leftyfbmainline*18:41
d33tahany place I could go for help?18:41
leftyfbd33tah: you could try ##linux maybe18:42
d33tahleftyfb: sounds too general, i suspect a problem with either the build or dkms18:42
leftyfbyeah, why would anyone think that ##linux would be a good place to get support with the linux kernel and it's drivers?18:44
skinuxI need some help figuring out which video drivers I need and how to make sure I have good ones.18:44
leftyfbskinux: lspci|grep -i vga18:44
skinuxAdvanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon R4/R5 Graphics] (rev 45)18:45
skinuxSO, which video driver package do I need?18:45
oerheksAti R4 is the old 5450, that uses the openradeon driver18:46
skinuxHmm. repo doesn't have anything for openradeon18:47
oerheksit should already be loaded ...18:47
skinuxOh. Well then I guess that isn't my problem.18:47
oerheksdriver in use >> lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'18:47
oerheksi have one too, works fine. 2 screens, dual youtube possible18:48
skinuxin use is 'radeon'18:48
birdfacemanhow goes progress adroitMachine18:49
adroitMachineedited the fstab file with the reference of old fstab, changed the uuid by sudo blkid. copy/pasted it. birdfaceman18:50
birdfacemanexcellent; you're doing better than me18:52
OguzBu uygulamanın amacı ne ?18:52
oerheks!tr18:53
ubottuTurk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için /join #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.18:53
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adroitMachinebirdfaceman: that's not true, birdfaceman I have been at it for the last 4 hours18:53
birdfacemanI have a hard drive trying to take that long, but install mode, I can get to a terminal, but dmesg is not hwlping.  What's your current problem adroitMachine?18:55
adroitMachinebirdfaceman: I was trying to migrate ubuntu from one partition to other, but after I did that, I didn't know how to update the uuids in fstab. So I copied the old fstab to the destination. Now I'm booting my laptop hoping that the other drives would show up there18:56
birdfacemandid you try gparted's interface, adroitMachine?  The only time it doesn't work for me is if I select a partition and try the "open with" option18:59
JadedJHi19:00
JadedJIs there someone out there that is willing to help me install the HoneyD application from source code?19:01
bipul!in19:04
ubottu#ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India19:04
birdfacemanit seems rare to get help here, appopriatly named JadedJ.  Check this out...19:04
bipul!uk19:05
ubottuJoin us for a discussion using the Queen's English in #ubuntu-uk19:05
oerheksJadedJ, why? 1.5 is in our bionic 18.04 repos19:05
birdfacemanAnyone know where the ubuntu installer kepps its messages from/during a formatting19:05
oerheks!info honeyd19:05
ubottuPackage honeyd does not exist in bionic19:05
bipul!help19:05
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:05
ioriaoerheks, i think it'sa dead project19:06
bipul!patience19:06
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/19:06
oerheksoops, only precise..19:06
oerheksioria, yeah, just noticed19:06
oerheksJadedJ, install build essentials and libevent-dev libdnet-dev libpcap-dev19:08
d33tahbipul suggested I should put link to this bug report here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/dkms/+bug/178726219:09
bruthatrucka77Does anyone know how to achieve a completely silent boot? (black screens with splash screen, no text whatsoever)19:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1787262 in Nvidia "4.18 mainline kernel fails to build nvidia dkms driver" [Undecided,New]19:09
oerheksJadedJ, get that old code and the manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo19:09
bruthatrucka77I'm using quiet splash in grub19:09
bruthatrucka77It's not working19:09
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oerheksd33tah, all you can do now is wait19:11
d33tahoerheks: understood19:11
bruthatrucka77anyone?19:11
oerheksbruthatrucka77, remove the splash, and update grub19:12
oerheks!grub19:12
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub219:12
leftyfbbruthatrucka77: did you run update-grub after making your change?19:12
bruthatrucka77yes19:12
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ioriabruthatrucka77, a silent boot with just slpash screen is the the default behaviour ... i don't get what you want19:18
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ZexaronHello19:19
ZexaronI'd like to go another way and directly modify the squashfs on the ubuntu ISO, which files would I need to modify to make my own custom defaults for time zone and keyboard locale19:20
boleroIn this web it says that "By default, the local machines hostname is viewable to others in IRC as well as through the /whois command. "19:23
bolerohttps://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorifyHOWTO/IRC#Cloaksandvhosts19:24
boleroCan you see my hostname?19:24
Fuchsbolero: you are using Tor, thus: no19:25
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jeremiesFuchs: but now I'm not using tor, where is the hostname listed ?19:27
jeremieswhois prints the following:19:28
Fuchsit's not listed.19:28
Fuchsand I doubt #ubuntu is the best channel to ask that, mind19:28
JadedJoerheks: Just doing a fresh install of ubuntu19:28
birdfacemanfollowing "failed in London" logic, does anyone here know why trying to install to an external hard drive (noapic expert mode) is spouting lots of "sdd: sdd1" messages for the past 45 minutes?19:28
jeremiesFuchs: why if I'm not using tor?19:30
ioriajeremies, i think it's about the ip not the hostname,but not an expert19:30
Fuchsjeremies: ah, now you aren't19:31
Fuchsjeremies: it's listed if you  /whois jeremies,  it's the part after the @, which is your public IP / hostname19:31
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Fuchsjeremies: it won't display the hostname you set locally, since IRC doesn't care and doesn't know about that, and the manual / documenation you are reading also talks about the public, internet facing one19:32
Guest59398hi19:32
naccbirdfaceman: is that the entire message?19:32
Guest59398Can somebody help/assists me? I wanna install ubuntu withlxde interface via the ubuntu mini iso. But when it tries to configure the network connection it fails. That's normal because it's hooked up to another computer who shares the connection via ether then I get to choose configure network manually but if I choose that it doesn't let met configure it manually instead it gives me the mirror selection of ubuntu server and it19:34
Guest59398fails of course again19:34
jeremiesFuchs: so in that link hostname = public IP ?19:34
Fuchsyes, also note that a good part of that guide is not valid for freenode, we neither have +x nor do our cloaks hide IPs effectively, and still #ubuntu is most definitely the wrong channel to discuss this19:35
ioriaGuest59398, use the pc ethernet  port19:36
Guest59398@ioria it'S connected via the ethernet port of the motherbard with an ethernet cable to the other computer19:37
jeremiesFuchs: thanks.19:37
ioriaGuest59398, connect directly the cable to the router19:37
Guest59398@ioria the problem is the router is in another floor and there is no screen19:38
gratefulxrdp isn't working for me, can someone help me reconfig it?19:38
ioriaGuest59398, yuo can try your way, and let us know if it works19:39
gratefulActive: active (running) since Tue 2018-08-14 18:47:45 EDT; 20h ago19:39
gratefulbut when i try to remmina to it, it doesn't find a connecton19:39
Guest59398my problem is in the installer if I nually it doesn'T let me configure it manually it only gets back to the choice of the ubuntu mirror19:39
birdfacemannacc yes 45 minutes of hundreds of those,  I'm trying again now19:40
ioriaGuest59398, mini.iso , afaik, works only with a direct cable connection19:40
Guest59398@ioria and only via dhcp? because if I could conifgure it manually it should work19:41
sim642Why do I have /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-72-generic which keeps coming back even though I'm on -131 already and trying to do 18.04 upgrade?19:41
ioriaGuest59398,  try with server, it that fails19:42
sim642I have linux-image-4.4.0-72 purged and it still is there19:42
gmota_hey guys!19:42
gmota_how can I find out which graphics driver I am currently on?19:43
joaogerardogood evening19:44
joaogerardoanyone available to give me a piece of a hands help?19:45
birdfacemanI've switched it in the options from ext4 (which I did in live image's gparted) to jfs, to see if I get anything new19:45
gmota_joaogerardo, maybe I can help19:46
joaogerardoops, thanks /gmota_19:46
joaogerardo@gmota_19:46
joaogerardoI need to join the ubuntu-mate channel19:47
gmota_ok19:47
joaogerardobut coundn't 'cause ai haven't been registered?19:47
joaogerardohow can I get an ID?19:47
joaogerardoI just install Ubuntu-Mate on a RPi219:48
JacobTDCHow can I get a list of `GRUB_LINUX_COMMAND_LINE` options, preferably through the `info` command?19:48
naccJacobTDC: uh, those are any kernel or initramfs options19:48
naccJacobTDC: not stored anywhere other than the source of the kernel and the initramfs, afaik19:48
xubuntu18041<gmota_: I guessing?  lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'19:49
gmota_joaogerardo, normally they write the registering instroctions above19:49
nacc!register | joaogerardo19:49
ubottujoaogerardo: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode.19:49
JacobTDCnacc: Can you dumb that dow for me? XD19:49
JacobTDC*down19:49
naccJacobTDC: not really? that option is for any kernel or initramfs options. It won't be available to `info`.19:49
gmota_xubuntu18041, no output19:50
birdfacemanOk, this might be all my fault; I may have forgotten to click the format option, but I can't say for sure, but it's back to ext4 and asking for timezones19:50
JadedJoerheks: Still there?19:50
JacobTDCnacc: Well, is there anywhere I can get a list of those options and what they do?19:50
naccJacobTDC: in the kernel source, Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt19:51
joaogerardothank you camarades. Will try again19:51
joaogerardo:D19:51
naccJacobTDC: as to the initramfs options, I doubt there is a list of them19:51
xubuntu18041gmota_:  lspci|grep -i vga19:51
skinuxWEll, that's interesting. Cannot find mysql service, but I just checked and it's installed.19:52
huberpHey guys. I have a little trouble with my Video output. The Ubuntu PC is hooked up to an Denon Receiver. And for some reason it defaults to 1920x1080p59.93Hz and the TV seems to not support that. So to change that, I have to logon via ssh and do xrandr magic to put it on 60 Hz. Is there a way to keep it that way?19:52
gmota_xubuntu18041, yeah, that gives me the card, but not the driver19:53
JacobTDCnacc: Okay, so, is there anywhere ON SYSTEM I can find that file? :I19:53
naccJacobTDC: no, unless you have the kernel source installed.19:53
JacobTDCOh.19:53
naccJacobTDC: what are you looking for?19:53
naccJacobTDC: or put another way, why do you want to know the exhaustive list of kernel options supported by your kernel?19:53
joaogerardoyou need to be identified with services19:53
joaogerardowhat does that mean? Itś needed to be registered, right?19:54
JacobTDCnacc: I'm looking for something to force-load my SynPS/2 keyboard, 'cause sometimes the system doesn't detect/load it (although the GRUB menu loads it without fail).19:55
jjegmota_: 'lshw -c video' there should be a line for the driver in that output.19:55
naccJacobTDC: do you have any workaround for it now?19:56
JacobTDCnacc: My only way of getting it to work is by rebooting the system (many times) until it loads it.19:57
naccJacobTDC: 'loads' what? or do you mean by that, that it works19:57
joaogerardoJacobTDC: sounds to be IRQ configuration19:58
naccJacobTDC: and in the case of it working/not, did you grab dmesgs and compare, etc.?19:58
gmota_jje, I would like to show you the output. Maybe you can determine the driver...19:58
jjepastebin please19:59
gmota_jje, yeah, how exactly?19:59
gmota_pipe pastebin jje?19:59
jjelshw -c video | pastebinit20:00
JacobTDCnacc: Let me start over. My laptop has an SynPS/2 keyboard (and mouse), and occasionally, when logging in, it doesn't work. It's wierd, because if I press <ESC> on boot to pull up the GRUB menu, the GRUB menu doesn't have any problems with it.20:00
JacobTDCjoaogerardo: What do you mean?20:00
gmota_jje, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rzqKKSddWG/20:01
UserUSJacobTDC, are all your drivers up to date?20:02
jjegmota_: it would be on the configuration line if it was there. i would guess you are using neauvou, have you installed the nvidia driver yet?20:02
JacobTDCUserUS: I don't know how to update them, but this is a fairly new Ubuntu installation, so they should be up-to-date.20:03
JacobTDCUserUS: *should* be up to date.....20:04
gmota_jje, no, there is none available. I would need version 173, which is not compatible with this kernel20:04
jjeoh dear then you are on neauvou20:04
joaogerardothe IRQs must be all enable. If the bridge of IRQs is disable maybe the communication to a new IRQ cannot be made.20:04
gmota_jje, would be happy to see if neauvou runs...20:05
JacobTDCjoaogerardo: ?20:05
joaogerardoand the IRQs addresses the devices to the hardware20:05
UserUSJacobTDC, I'd start by reinstalling the driver for your SynPS/2 for ubuntu20:05
jjegmota_: its the open source driver it should be loaded already check lsmod20:05
JacobTDCUserUS: How?20:05
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gmota_jje, just via typing lsmod?20:06
jjeyes it will give you a list of loaded modules20:06
gmota_jje, yeah, ok20:08
jjeexcellent20:08
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JacobTDCUserUS: How do I update drivers on a command-line installation?20:09
UserUSJacobTDC, also check xinit logs and check lsmod|grep -iE "synap". I'm looking for a driver for you, one sec20:09
gmota_jje, can't I somehow get this very old 173 driver? ^^20:09
jjegmota_: not sure wait for someone else to answer maybe?20:10
gmota_jje, yeah. the .run file from nvidia does not work as the kernel is too new... xD The message is that the kernel header is not configured correctly20:11
Stormmoreanyone have a suggestion on a replacement for Keycloak that can doing OAuth identity brokering?20:11
jjegmota_: well it kind of sounds like you are out of luck then.20:12
UserUSJacobTDC, I'm still looking, but can you run this: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i synaptics and put it in pastebin or something and give a link of the output?20:13
JacobTDCUserUS: Sure. Just so you know, I'm using the Minimal installation of Ubuntu, but thankfully I have already installed xinit and xterm.20:13
JacobTDCUserUS: I haven't run xinit before, or have deleted the log... just a sec...20:15
JacobTDCUserUS: actually, it just moved the log location...20:17
skinuxGot it! I had to start 'mysql' not 'mysqld'20:18
JacobTDCUserUS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Y5WDp5RXyp/20:18
arooniis there an alternative to synergy20:19
JacobTDCUserUS: I'm actually suprised xinit worked this time. It usually can't load the keyboard, and I have to restart the computer to get out of it.20:19
JadedJHi20:20
Reijihi20:20
JadedJWhen running ./configure on application I'm trying to compile, it gives me this error20:20
UserUSJacobTDC, yeah, it looks like the issue is that is keeps getting disconnected20:20
JacobTDCUserUS: ?20:21
JacobTDCUserUS: Physically?20:21
Reijinow the ubuntu mini iso detected the newtwork settings automatically and I can can fordward in installing ubuntu with lxde20:21
JadedJ"configure: error: dnet-config not found"20:21
UserUSJacobTDC, No, but the machine sees it that way. It's using libinput for the touchpad, recognizes it, but then the touchpad gets disconnected and it can't find it anymore20:21
UserUSJacobTDC, you can reinstall the input driver with sudo apt-get install libinput-tools xserver-xorg-input-libinput20:23
JacobTDCUserUS: That makes sense. Is there anything else I can do as well incase that doesn't solve it?20:23
UserUSJacobTDC, yeah, I found a couple articles I can send you to troubleshoot20:24
UserUSJacobTDC, to temporarily enable it you can try xinput set-prop xx "Device Enabled" 0, where xx= device id20:25
UserUSJacobTDC, https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2250916 (device being disabled) and https://gist.github.com/waltervargas/93178b2ac341a1a11d254fe97a2e798c (reinstalled and configuring driver)20:26
JacobTDCUserUS: You seem to know a lot more about this than the people who helped me a month or so ago (no offense if someone reading this is one of the people who helped... XD)20:26
UserUSJacobTDC, Dr. Google knows a hell of a lot more than me haha but I did setup an arch machine before so I'm familiar with xorg to some extent. If you head into an arch channel and ask strictly about xorg I bet you'll find your answer20:29
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JacobTDCUserUS: Just to make sure, installing those *should* fix the keyboard on a CLI-Only installation, correct?20:29
JacobTDC"those" refering to the libinput packages20:30
UserUSJacobTDC, yeah, the driver is the same regardless as far as I'm aware20:30
JacobTDCUserUS: Should I send you the a new "grep synaptics" to make sure I did it right?20:31
UserUSJacobTDC, Sure20:32
JacobTDCUserUS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3cXwSkss2t/20:33
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JacobTDCUserUS: Is that how it should be?20:36
tomreynJacobTDC: i have no idea what it should look like, but take a look at libinput(4), maybe it helps.20:41
UserUSJacobTDC, No, the device is still disconnected. can you run synclient -l and post the output? You should checkout the first link I sent, it may be the ~/.bashrc file20:42
konradosHi. I started installing wicd (sudo apt install wicd) - because I found out it can show me details about available wifi networks, along with channels etc. Now I'm not sure, because it wants to install some deamons ... The description says "A network connection manager that aims to simplify wired and wireless networking in Linux."  - I don't want to break anything, especially that everything works :) Is this thing safe, I mean can I safely20:46
konradosinstall it and try it?20:46
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leftyfbkonrados: try iw; sudo apt install iw ; sudo iw $(basename $(ls -d /sys/class/net/wl*)) scan20:52
konradosleftyfb: ok, I will, but can you tell me one thing - should I now kill to installation process? Or can I safely continue it? It asks me about20:54
konrados"Users who should be able to run wicd clients need to be added to the group "netdev"20:54
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JacobTDCUserUS: Okay.20:54
konradosI really thought it's just a bunch of utils, not some daemons. Is this safe to continue, or will it overwrite things I have now?20:55
leftyfbkonrados: maybe just remove wicd20:55
konradosleftyfb: but I'm in the middle of the installation process... I just started it and it asks me this question, should I kill it? Or continue and then remove?20:56
leftyfbcontinue and remove20:56
konradosI'm a bit scared that it will mess my system and hence I'm not sure20:56
konradosok, thanks leftyfb !20:56
konradosI'll be back20:56
konradosi hope20:56
JacobTDCUserUS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HrrfNhBXzd/20:59
konradosleftyfb: hah, seems I survived this, thanks again!21:02
JacobTDCUserUS: Did you get that?21:04
FreeBDSMwhy can't I mount an iso via `sudo mount -t iso 9660 path/to/iso /mnt/iso`? it says 'failed to setup loop device for /full/path/to/iso`21:08
FreeBDSMthe dir exists, unmounted21:08
UserUSJacobTDC, I did. It says the touchpad is on, so it may be the dev it's trying to point to21:09
pi0is there a cli tool to view images21:10
leftyfbFreeBDSM: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt/iso # make sure /mnt/iso exists21:11
leftyfbpi0: uh, you mean in the framebuffer?21:11
Jordan_Ucpaelzer: A belated thank you! I'll check dmesg for Apparmor denying libvirt when I get back to that machine today or tomorrow.21:11
FreeBDSMleftyfb: I've tried without -t iso9660 as well21:11
pi0well i have a png and jpg21:11
pi0that i would like to see in the console window21:11
leftyfbFreeBDSM: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt/iso # make sure /mnt/iso exists21:11
FreeBDSMokay, turns out mount doesn't know what ~ is21:12
FreeBDSMthanks21:12
leftyfbpi0: try: fbi21:12
FreeBDSMand yes, -t iso9660 screws things up21:12
pi0apt install fbi21:12
leftyfbFreeBDSM: and you need to specify that it's a loop mount21:13
leftyfbFreeBDSM: so exactly as I typed above21:13
FreeBDSMI did specify it before21:13
FreeBDSMthe problem was full path vs ~/path21:13
FreeBDSMand `-t iso9660` which I took from redhat's docs21:13
geniipi0: Without X, you need to use an application like fbi which uses framebuffer, or some command-line other viewer which uses svgalibs ( like links2 cli web browser )21:14
pi0hmm not liking my font21:16
pi0i gueess21:16
pi0i am running i321:16
pi0anything else besides fbi21:16
JacobTDCUserUS: Sorry, if you said anything since my last message, you're going to have to repeat it... :I21:26
UserUSJacobTDC, "I did. It says the touchpad is on, so it may be the dev it's trying to point to"21:26
JacobTDCUserUS: I also found that if my keyboard doesn't work at login, I can press "Fn + F8" (a key labeled "CRT/LCD") and it types "^@" on the screen. I can also press "Fn + F10" (eject disk) and it works as well.21:28
JacobTDCThat's the only thing I can do, though.21:29
UserUSJacobTDC, Yeah, I saw in a post somewhere someone saying that worked. One of the links I sent had a script that basically runs enable over and over if it's disabled. But I think the root issue is gonna be in xorg21:30
JacobTDCUserUS: Well, I don't think xorg is the problem at startup, 'cause I install the Minimal/CLI-Only version of Ubuntu 18.04. If it helps, I'm using a Dell Inspiron 2650.21:31
JacobTDC*installed21:32
UserUSJacobTDC, well xorg is the controller basically for the synaptics driver. Also, double check you didn't hit the disable keyboard button in your function keys21:34
prsstntmy minecraft keeps crashing21:34
JacobTDCUserUS: I don't have a disable keyboard function key...21:34
JacobTDCprsstnt: That's probably (most likely) a Java/Minecraft issue, not an Ubuntu issue, but if you provide more details, I'm sure someone would be glad to help! :D21:36
JacobTDCUserUS: At least, I don't as far as I know of...21:38
prsstntit works on the latest release, but throws an error with a "bad pixmap" on the release my server uses21:40
JacobTDCbrb21:43
WaldoHuntI'm back.21:46
WaldoHuntWhoops...21:46
WaldoHuntXD21:46
JacobTDCHey, I'm back now.21:46
Bashing-omJacobTDC: A thought. A BIOS option  "IOMMU Controller"? Set it to "Enabled" .21:56
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UFC_addicthi22:15
FreeBDSMhow to check my kernel version? `apt list --installed linux-image\*` lists 3 of them, the highest being 4.15.0.30.32, but wine crashes with a like `Host version: 4.15.0-29-generic`22:18
Bashing-omFreeBDSM: ' uname -r ' .22:19
FreeBDSMBashing-om: says `4.15.0-29-generic`22:20
FreeBDSMhow do I update?22:20
lilkuz2005hey guys whats the name of the sound applet for sound control in ubuntu 18.04 ?22:20
FreeBDSMI guess a newer version of kernel is already installed, is reboot mandatory?22:20
FreeBDSMlilkuz2005: there are multiple ones22:20
FreeBDSMlilkuz2005: pavucontrol ?22:20
jcduttonFreeBDSM, ls /boot22:21
Bashing-omFreeBDSM: " sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' is the terminal way .22:21
lilkuz2005FreeBDSM, i removed the default applet and im trying to replace it22:21
jcduttonis the new version there. It will probably get used at the next reboot22:21
FreeBDSMI tried `apt update` and it ended with a GPG error for download.opensuse.org repo, what do I do?22:23
Bashing-omFreeBDSM: pastebin the command and the output .22:24
Bashing-om!paste | FreeBDSM22:24
ubottuFreeBDSM: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.22:24
FreeBDSMhttps://paste.ee/p/K2h9b22:24
jcduttonFreeBDSM, for the opensuse pgp, just download Release.key from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/strycore/xUbuntu_18.04/  and install the key22:28
jcduttongoogle how to install an apt key22:29
Bashing-omFreeBDSM: Well, what is your need from opensuse.org that ubuntu does not provide ?.. and do you trust the source ?22:29
FreeBDSMwhy doesn't it work automatically?22:29
FreeBDSMBashing-om: I don't know where that repo got from22:30
jcduttonFreeBDSM, the opensuse one is for "Lutris - Open Gaming Platform"22:31
FreeBDSMoh22:31
FreeBDSMright22:31
pi0hey there!22:32
pi0back :D22:32
pi0fbi does not seem to work on my end :(22:32
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pi0do redirect an outpout is >22:39
pi0right22:39
pi0trying fbi screenshot.png > out22:39
pi0and nothin22:39
pi0:/22:39
lilkuz2005FreeBDSM, i found the applet i was talking about, its called indicator applet complete22:41
pi0http://ix.io/1kj322:48
naftilos76hi, what option should i use to let a user unmount a vbox shared folder?22:56
naftilos76the vbox guest is an ubuntu 16.0422:57
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pi0any suggestions on how to resolve this http://ix.io/1kj323:12
pi0trying to see an image, using fbi, image is in png format23:12
jeffreeis anyone experiencing delays for audio to begin playing?23:14
c_cinapwell... Since 18.04 upgrade, the sound is better -Less pops and crap. But no more keyboard volume control....23:17
jeffreehmm, I'm running 18.04 and this is the first os I've noticed to make popping sounds sometimes when doing things23:18
c_cinapyeah, I had that in 16.0423:18
c_cinapon a fresh install, this was a do-release-upgrade23:19
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macgyver_is there ubuntu 18.04 for 32bit?23:25
macgyver_I have 32bit laptop23:26
Bashing-ommacgyver_: Think lubuntu still supports 32 bit .23:26
Belialanyone rocking thunderbird 60?23:27
macgyver_is lubuntu 18.04 LTS for 32 bit?23:27
Bashing-ommacgyver_: Yup; see: https://lubuntu.me/downloads/ .23:27
aloo_shu1+ lubuntu !23:28
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pi0neomutt! Belial :D23:29
UnderDog_Hello there:)23:43
pi0yo!23:44
state32simple question on freenode  I am tryo to join a channel and get this :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services23:50
state32what is the solution23:50
leftyfbstate32: /join #freenode for help with freenode23:51
state32thanks23:51
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