[00:03] <forgotmynick> in the ubuntu 18.04 installer, is the subnet 192.168.0.0/24 or 255.255.255.0/24 ?
[00:03] <nacc> forgotmynick: the former, if that's your subnet
[00:04] <forgotmynick> i know, i was just testing you
[00:04] <forgotmynick> (thanks)
[00:05] <nacc> forgotmynick: ... please don't spam the channel then.
[00:21] <Belial> nacc, pretty sure he was being tongue in cheek with the "just testing you." hence the "thanks" after you helped him.
[00:27] <Biessie> how can i know what all the apt-get upgrade for 18.04.1 changes are?
[00:28] <madLyfe> compdoc: my board is a gigabyte from 2013
[00:29] <tomreyn> madLyfe: it may still have this option.
[00:29] <Biessie> i do it daily but would like to know what the changes are fixing :)
[00:29] <compdoc> well, you would know if those options can be enabled seperately. You want AHCI on always. But if you want real raid, there are raid cards that a fairly cheap
[00:29] <madLyfe> I remember my Samsung SSD saying that I couldn't update the firmware if I wasn't on AHCI. also in bios it says if you want NCQ and smart plus other drive features you need AHCI enabled.
[00:31] <tomreyn> Biessie: "apt changelog <package>" after installing, or apt-listchanges to see be prompted before iniitating installation.
[00:31] <madLyfe> tomreyn: which feature were you referring to?
[00:33] <tomreyn> madLyfe: the 'AHCI / RAID' hard disk (controller) mode of operation BIOS option
[00:38] <madLyfe> either/or or a mode where AHCI is enabled when raid is enabled like compdoc was talking about? because I remember my Sammy SSD complaining that I wasn't using AHCI when was in raid mode when I tried to update it's firmware. so not sure if my board has that?
[00:41] <tomreyn> madLyfe: those are values you can choose from on a single bios opiton. you want ahci, and either software raid or proper hardware rai, never fakeraid, if you have had to or just read about the experiences people made with recovering those..
[00:41] <tomreyn> rai -> raid
[00:42] <tomreyn> but i have a feeling this is the third day in a row you're asking this question and getting the same answers. ;)
[00:42] <madLyfe> I'm getting somewhere today 🤣
[00:43] <Biessie> tomreyn : Thanks!
[00:43] <Biessie> always elpful
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[00:43] <Biessie> helpful* today isnt my day
[00:44] <tomreyn> welcome, and i fail on typing more than you do.
[00:51] <kevr> hello
[00:52] <kevr> i corrupted a file in /etc/sudoers.d/, and i dont have a password for su setup properly
[00:52] <kevr> is there a way to recover the system?
[00:52] <kevr> i booted into recovery shell via grub, but everything is mounted RO
[00:54] <tomreyn> kevr: the recovery menu offers you to remount rw. it may not spell it out like this (not sure). the option to bring the network online does so.
[00:54] <tomreyn> kevr: but you can also just run "mount -o remount,rw /" from the recovery shell
[00:55] <kevr> tomreyn: thanks
[01:09] <filifunk> Hi guys, I had an issue earlier.  I bought a new router and my computer could not get on the internet.  Someone in this chat gave me a command that fixes it.  The problem is that I have to use the command everytime I log in.  Is there a way for the command to be used on boot up automatically?
[01:11] <kevr> Yes, there is.
[01:11] <kevr> However, maybe we can solve your problem without having to manually add something.
[01:11] <kevr> What exactly did you use to get it to work?
[01:12] <pete_> hey guys, what's the main topic tonight?
[01:13] <kevr> Ubuntu.
[01:13] <filifunk> kevr: ok, I'll pull it up one sec
[01:13] <Belial> pete_, the golden girls reboot
[01:13] <emma> is there a way to know in advance if a given laptop will run ubuntu nicely?
[01:13] <Belial> 2019
[01:13] <filifunk> kevr: sudo ip link set dev enp2s0 down && sudo dhclient enp2s0
[01:13] <kevr> emma: usually intel chipset laptops are nice
[01:13] <emma> i want to find the best laptop that can be bought onlinle for less than 600 dollars that will run ubuntu nicely
[01:13] <kevr> emma: try to avoid stuff with broadcom wifi
[01:14] <emma> kevr: i do want to but the specs online never say what the wireles chipset is
[01:14] <kevr> you'll have to look up the manual to the model you're interested in
[01:14] <kevr> or go to the vendor site for specs
[01:14] <kevr> also
[01:14] <kevr> Ubuntu has a large supported hardware listing to help people out with that
[01:14] <Belial> emma, can't go wrong with most intel based dell laptops
[01:15] <kevr> You should check out that list as you're buying the laptop :)
[01:15] <kevr> Anything with an intel chipset/intel graphics onboard has never failed me on Linux
[01:16] <emma> but intel chipset means wireless?
[01:16] <kevr> could mean multiple things
[01:16] <kevr> that's one of them though, yeah, pretty important for laptop :)
[01:17] <Belial> emma, are you worried about a particular wireless chipset by intel?
[01:17] <filifunk> Hi guys, I had an issue earlier.  I bought a new router and my computer could not get on the internet.  Someone in this chat gave me a command that fixes it.  The problem is that I have to use the command everytime I log in.  Is there a way for the command to be used on boot up automatically?
[01:18] <kevr> filifunk: there's a problem with your command that you used to fix the issue
[01:18] <filifunk> kevr: oh yeah?
[01:18] <kevr> filifunk: apparently there are already services on your system which are bringing up your interface and running dhcp on it
[01:18] <kevr> i would suggest changing _those_ to work the way you'd like, instead of adding extra commands
[01:18] <kevr> otherwise, you're going to have a service battling the other for little reason
[01:19] <filifunk> kevr: ok, any tips on how I might do this?  Some things I should look into?
[01:19] <kevr> filifunk: what exactly was the original issue you were having?
[01:19] <kevr> As in...
[01:20] <filifunk> kevr: I was connected to my router via ethernet, but could not get on the internet, despite every other device being able to
[01:20] <kevr> On boot, did you get an IP address? If so, were you missing a correct route or DNS?
[01:20] <kevr> If not, maybe we should investigate why dhcpcd was apparently failing
[01:21] <filifunk> kevr: I want to say yes I did, but don't know for sure.  I just remember before I had the problem fix I had an IP address that I was telling people in the chat was my IP address
[01:21] <kevr> okay
[01:21] <kevr> let's do this
[01:21] <kevr> reboot your computer, without internet, and don't do anything
[01:22] <filifunk> kevr: okay, I'm assuming I should log into this chat via my laptop that can connect via wireless
[01:22] <kevr> Yes
[01:22] <kevr> :)
[01:22] <filifunk> kevr: ok, no smoke signal lol
[01:22] <kevr> When you get to a prompt
[01:22] <kevr> Run these commands for me:
[01:23] <kevr> `ip addr >> /tmp/log; ip route >> /tmp/log; cat /etc/resolv.conf >> /tmp/log`
[01:23] <kevr> after that, /tmp/log will be a text file with those commands output inside of it
[01:23] <kevr> we need that file so i can inspect it
[01:23] <kevr> So, after you run those commands, connect to the internet, then upload that log to a paste or something
[01:24] <filifunk> kevr:ok
[01:24] <filifunk2> test
[01:25] <kevr> success
[01:30] <filifunk> kevr: back
[01:30] <filifunk> kevr: https://pastebin.com/dcy8zRdA
[01:30] <kevr> okay
[01:30] <kevr> now
[01:31] <kevr> filifunk: are you using server or desktop?
[01:31] <filifunk> kevr: desktop
[01:32] <kevr> interesting
[01:32] <de-facto> I consider it mildly irritating that on invoking software updates (gui) I _sometimes_ (kernel updates?) get a password prompt without any further explanation!? Is that meant to educate users to enter root password for every dialogue that pops sometimes up?
[01:32] <kevr> it doesnt look like you're even getting an IP address
[01:32] <kevr> meaning, there's probably no DHCP service running for your eth adapter
[01:32] <kevr> that would explain why dhclient got you internet, because nothing else is doing it
[01:33] <kevr> filifunk: what happens if you use...
[01:33] <filifunk> kevr: so all my other devices have a DHCP service?
[01:33] <kevr> filifunk: systemctl start networking.service?
[01:33] <kevr> filifunk: usually dhcp is set to run on boot by default...
[01:33] <filifunk> kevr: I should type that in the prompt?
[01:33] <kevr> type it in a shell, yes,
[01:34] <T3ll0ll3t> hii what is the function of python2 ?
[01:34] <kevr> T3ll0ll3t: it's a programming language.
[01:34] <filifunk> kevr: ok, typed it and entered it in.  A prompt asking for my password came up.  I entered it and hit enter, and nothing happened
[01:34] <kevr> T3ll0ll3t: The reason python2 still exists alongside python3 is because they are not compatible with each other. python3 doesn't support all legacy python2 code, and all python2 modules are python2 only.
[01:35] <kevr> Meaning, if the OS decided to jump everything to python 3 they would break thousands of projects
[01:35] <kevr> filifunk: do you have internet now?
[01:35] <filifunk> kevr: right now, yes, have had it ever since I logged back in and gave you that paste link
[01:35] <kevr> ah, right
[01:35] <kevr> so
[01:35] <kevr> can you also give me this file:
[01:36] <kevr> `/etc/network/interfaces`
[01:36] <kevr> on a pastebin
[01:36] <T3ll0ll3t> ok thanks kevr
[01:36] <kevr> T3ll0ll3t: anytime!
[01:36] <T3ll0ll3t> where do you from kevr
[01:36] <kevr> I'm from California, USA
[01:36] <filifunk> kevr: https://pastebin.com/fxNTMhct
[01:36] <T3ll0ll3t> oh
[01:37] <kevr> filifunk: you don't have your interface configured for internet
[01:37] <kevr> that's why you aren't getting it automatically
[01:37] <kevr> one sec
[01:37] <filifunk> kevr: I'm no computer scientist but that sounds problematic lol
[01:37] <kevr> filifunk: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Using_DHCP_to_automatically_configure_the_interface
[01:38] <kevr> filifunk: replace eth0 with your ethernet adapter's name
[01:38] <kevr> save it, and reboot
[01:38] <kevr> filifunk: but, don't remove the `lo` lines
[01:38] <kevr> those are definitely needed
[01:38] <kevr> just add a new section for the eth adapter
[01:39] <filifunk> kevr: so I've seen this a lot: enp2s0, is that the ethernet adapter name?
[01:39] <kevr> filifunk: exactly
[01:39] <kevr> :)
[01:40] <filifunk> kevr: so before I even went to this chat to try and solve my problem I googled around and followed this one tutorial that said I should turn off ipv6.  So I turned it off.  Is that going to be a problem?
[01:40] <kevr> filifunk: keep that page bookmarked that i linked you, it's applicable to the default networking on debian-based systems
[01:40] <filifunk> kevr: ok
[01:40] <kevr> filifunk: it's not going to be a problem
[01:40] <tomreyn> kevr: you're ignoring network manager + systemd-networkd there. /etC/network/interfaces isn't how you configure networking on an ubuntu desktop these days. (i admit it may be the fastest way forward in this remote support scenario, though.)
[01:41] <kevr> filifunk: also, all of this stuff may be manageable on your network system tray widget, but i'm not sure
[01:41] <de-facto> Fancy new predictable network adapter names: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[01:41] <kevr> yeah, that's what i was thinking
[01:41] <kevr> network manager is probably the best ubuntu way eh?
[01:41] <tomreyn> kevr: it's default for desktops, yes
[01:41] <kevr> filifunk: check the networking icon in your system tray, there should be interface settings in there
[01:42] <tomreyn> kevr: but maybe just ignore me. filifunk + i tried to solve this for hours the other day and i couldnt fix it in the end, needed to sleep.
[01:42] <kevr> ah, i see.
[01:42] <kevr> well it's cool, the more he learns the better anyways
[01:42] <kevr> :)
[01:43] <kevr> let's try the first suggestion
[01:43] <filifunk> kevr: try the first one with link you gave me?
[01:43] <kevr> yeah
[01:44] <filifunk> kevr: ok, so I am going to add those first three lines to the interfaces file
[01:44] <kevr> yup. and remember to replace the eth0 :)
[01:44] <filifunk> kevr: yup
[01:45] <Bashing-om> kevr: See filifunk's https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7sV3Jxn9JK/ . In particular ip r >> default via 192.168.0.1 dev enp2s0 proto static metric 100 . Where status is set for some reason and all we look at is DHCP set-up .
[01:46] <Bashing-om> status/static*
[01:46] <kevr> interesting
[01:46] <kevr> i see, so the paste this time was different because the auto connection was removed from nm
[01:47] <filifunk> kevr: I have a read only version, I'm like blanking out on how to make it readable.  I just tried to replace it but it would not let me
[01:47] <filifunk> *writeable I mean
[01:47] <kevr> filifunk: use sudo to edit it
[01:47] <headrx> hey question.. i was messinng with my windows manager, and broke my workspace switch shortcut keys... how to fix?
[01:47] <headrx> they were alt-cntrl-updownleftright
[01:47] <filifunk> kevr: is there a way to do it using the window view, or do I have to do this all through terminal?
[01:48] <filifunk> kevr: I'm looking at it on gedit
[01:48] <kevr> filifunk: gksudo gedit i think
[01:48] <kevr> `gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces`
[01:49] <filifunk> kevr: that worked, thanks
[01:49] <kevr> Bashing-om: `-> 192.168.0.0./24 dev enp2s0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.0.17 metric 100`
[01:49] <kevr> is this correct?
[01:49] <kevr> i see an extra period after the 192.168.0.0
[01:50] <filifunk> kevr: I'm going to reboot
[01:50] <kevr> filifunk: sure
[01:50] <kevr> it looks like he has an incorrect static route there, if the trailing . is indeed true
[01:51] <headrx> no ideas?
[01:52] <filifunk> kevr: annnnnd it works!
[01:52] <kevr> sweet
[01:52] <filifunk> kevr: so just to kind of recap
[01:52] <kevr> can i ask for your attention for a few more minutes, however?
[01:53] <filifunk> kevr: me?  yeah
[01:53] <kevr> ya
[01:53] <kevr> sure, sorry, go on
[01:54] <filifunk> kevr: so I came in asking for some code to automatically input a command that turns on that dhcp service.  But you wanted to get in even before that because some other program was distracting it or something.  The place to find out was in the interfaces file and you just set it up so it gets the dhcp going before any weirdness happened?
[01:54] <kevr> not exactly
[01:55] <kevr> let me explain a bit how networking is setup by default on ubuntu
[01:55] <filifunk> kevr: ok
[01:55] <kevr> first of all, /etc/network/interfaces is a very old file. originally, it was the file that the OS used at boot to configure interfaces with its default service
[01:56] <kevr> now, since then, a lot has changed, and systemd has been adopted as the primary "service" daemon on the OS, this introduces "new" services that replace the old version
[01:56] <Bashing-om> kevr: 192.168.0.1 should be correct .. ping and verify ?
[01:56] <kevr> called systemd-networkd (for base interface setups)
[01:56] <kevr> after systemd-networkd, usually there is a program that actually manages your connections
[01:57] <kevr> on Ubuntu, they use this thing called Network Manager, and it comes with the little network icon applet in your system tray
[01:57] <kevr> That program tells Ubuntu to reconfigure the underlying items when you change them in the GUI
[01:57] <kevr> However, I happen to know that /etc/network/interfaces is still supported at the low level for back-compatibility purposes
[01:58] <kevr> You see, when you pasted the address info to me (currently), it looked like there was no service at all doing anything for your interface
[01:58] <kevr> Basically what happens is, ubuntu runs through systemd-networkd, it finds out which interfaces its supposed to configure
[01:58] <kevr> then, when it knows, it brings them up, and does some subsequent stuff depending on what you set (static, dhcp, whtaever)
[01:59] <kevr> What I believe is that yesterday when you set the static IP, that you actually typo'd the default gateway on accident
[01:59] <kevr> or not the default gateway, but your static route for 192.168.0.0/24
[02:00] <filifunk> kevr: how did I set the static IP...I don't remember, was there some command I did that set it?
[02:00] <kevr> in other words, today's problem is different than yesterday's problem
[02:00] <kevr> filifunk: you must have done it in Network Manager GUI
[02:00] <filifunk> kevr: ok
[02:00] <kevr> filifunk: so what i would suggest honestly... one sec
[02:01] <chenchenchen> hello world
[02:02] <kevr> filifunk: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager
[02:02] <kevr> filifunk: some of this information is a little different, because that's the debian wiki
[02:02] <kevr> first, i would check to see what "managed" is set to in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[02:02] <kevr> then, i would go into the little network gui applet thingy and check your stuff out
[02:03] <kevr> make sure you see your interface, that its set to auto and dhcp
[02:03] <kevr> etc
[02:03] <kevr> basically you wanna make sure that's in sync with what you want
[02:03] <kevr> eventually, they'll probably stop supporting /etc/network/interfaces (in years)
[02:03] <filifunk> kevr: ok, managed is false
[02:04] <kevr> set it to true
[02:04] <kevr> with an editor like you did before
[02:04] <kevr> then restart the service with `systemctl restart network-manager`
[02:05] <filifunk> kevr: ok, I am reconnected
[02:05] <kevr> sweet
[02:05] <kevr> alright, now open up the little network icon in your tray
[02:05] <kevr> and go through it and look at your interfaces and stuff
[02:05] <kevr> just do a check
[02:06] <filifunk> kevr: I think I'm unsure what to check for....if it says managed is true as well here?
[02:07] <kevr> is there an enp2s0 device or whatever somewhere?
[02:07] <kevr> Auto enp2s0
[02:07] <filifunk> kevr: I see a bunch of IP addresses, default routes, etc
[02:07] <kevr> Auto Ethernet
[02:07] <filifunk> kevr: there is an "ifupdown (enp2s0)"
[02:08] <kevr> hmm, i should really get more familiar with network manager :)
[02:08] <kevr> sec
[02:08] <Bashing-om> filifunk: confirm this is a desktop machine .
[02:09] <filifunk> Bashing-om: yes, desktop
[02:10] <Bashing-om> filifunk: K; then you can get awa7y wuth setting managed=true and use "/etc/network/interfaces" file for control.
[02:10] <kevr> filifunk: is there "Network Connections" somewhere?
[02:10] <Bashing-om> away with*
[02:10] <filifunk> Bashing-om: ok, sounds good
[02:11] <filifunk> kevr: yep, I am looking at it right now
[02:11] <kevr> cool yeah, so as long as you see your adapter in there and stuff
[02:11] <filifunk> kevr: yep!
[02:11] <kevr> you should be able to edit it and see DHCP set and stuff
[02:11] <kevr> alright cool man
[02:11] <kevr> now just try to use the applet in the future alright?
[02:11] <kevr> im 99% sure it was just a typo yesterday :)
[02:12] <filifunk> kevr: actually when I click on "ifupdown (enp2s0)" the Edit button ghosts on me
[02:12] <kevr> oh yeah?
[02:12] <filifunk> kevr: ok lol
[02:12] <kevr> is that the only interface?
[02:12] <filifunk> kevr: yes that's the only one, I have old Wi-fi connections and the edit button is available for those
[02:12] <kevr> ah i see, so that managed=true makes it forced to be managed by /etc/network/interfaces
[02:12] <kevr> interesting
[02:13] <kevr> well you'll be fine, just keep those pages bookmarked :)
[02:13] <kevr> they show setups for static and stuff too
[02:14] <filifunk> kevr: ok! haha.  I feel comfortable just being happy to have internet come on automatically :)
[02:14] <kevr> great!
[02:14] <kevr> :D
[02:14] <filifunk> !cookie kevr
[02:14] <filifunk> does that work lol
[02:14] <kevr> \o/
[02:14] <filifunk> I saw someone else do that
[02:14] <kevr> haha
[02:14] <kevr> alright bud, i'm gonna get back to work
[02:14] <kevr> have a great day
[02:14] <filifunk> kevr: thanks man!
[02:14] <filifunk> kevr: you too
[02:14] <kevr> anytime sir
[02:14] <kevr> o/
[02:21] <madLyfe> so the nightlight feature on ubuntu 18.04.1 only works on one monitor for me. the default monitor. though i have enabled on all of them.
[02:32] <ewjordan> Been seeing "BUG: Bad page map in process ruby2.5" when I boot new servers ever since the security update earlier today - known issue anywhere?
[02:32] <ewjordan> on AWS, so also could be a hypervisor thing related to Foreshadow
[02:43] <hays_> so I have a piece of software that I am not the developer of, but I want to package it in a way I can deploy it really easily to a bunch of servers. Is there a sensible way to do this with a .deb?  once its installed, it has its own update mechanism
[02:44] <hays_> i kinda think because it has its own update mechanism, maybe a .deb isn't really the way to go
[02:48] <kevr> that's fine
[02:49] <kevr> if it's your own custom package. things in the repositories aren't really intrusive, but you can install services in postinst and stuff
[02:49] <kevr> they have postinst/prerm scripts you can run for setup/teardown
[02:49] <kevr> just make sure you don't intrude on other programs
[02:50] <kevr> actually, that's most likely the best way, as the deb can track the files it installs and take care of cleaning things up in case you need to
[02:50] <kevr> it's more manageable
[02:50] <kevr> also version upgrades, etc.
[02:53] <kevr> hays_: i usually use two separate packages
[02:53] <kevr> hays_: there's the daemon that has update services installed as a package, and the separate package
[02:53] <kevr> so that daemon can help keep the package up to date without breaking things
[03:00] <Apachez> somewhat offtopic but since many with ubuntu uses virtualbox, anyone else having problems with fetching latest virtualbox-5.2 from oracles servers?
[03:00] <Apachez> Failed to fetch http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/pool/contrib/v/virtualbox-5.2/virtualbox-5.2_5.2.18-124319~Ubuntu~bionic_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 2.18.35.31 80]
[03:00] <Apachez> yet the file is there according to the http server dirlist, but not when one try to download the file...
[03:00] <kevr> have you tried apt-get update?
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[03:03] <hays_> kevr: yeah, I guess what is weird is that the .deb usually has a version number associated with it
[03:03] <kevr> hays_: it doesn't actually matter what the version is though
[03:03] <kevr> you could literally make it 1.0 forever if you want
[03:03] <kevr> dpkg -i blah.deb overrides it anyways
[03:04] <kevr> hays_: i usually just extract the version off of something in the project
[03:04] <kevr> maybe git rev count, something like that
[03:04] <kevr> segment it into parts
[03:05] <hays_> how might I make it so that apt see it
[03:05] <kevr> well
[03:05] <kevr> you would have to host your own repository for that
[03:05] <hays_> is there a dirt simple way to host a single .deb repository? heh
[03:05] <kevr> hays_: https://askubuntu.com/questions/367147/how-to-host-a-repository-like-ppa-in-my-own-site
[03:06] <kevr> however
[03:06] <kevr> if you do it that way
[03:06] <kevr> apt-get upgrade isnt going to upgrade it if it's the same version
[03:06] <kevr> so you're going to need some kind of version bump.
[03:07] <hays_> can .deb files specify commands to run/
[03:08] <hays_> like if I wanted to create a GUID and put it somewhere
[03:08] <kevr> Yes. Like I said, postinst/prerm files
[03:08] <kevr> Look up the structure of a .deb package
[03:09] <pi0> is there a flash plugin
[03:09] <pi0> for ubuntu for ice weasle
[03:10] <pi0> that can be install via apt install
[03:19] <pete_> What's the best offline game for ubuntu?
[03:21] <mwsb> moon-buggy
[03:21] <madLyfe> have any of you guys tried the new nix kernel?
[03:22] <capella> define new
[03:23] <madLyfe> 4.18?
[03:41] <madLyfe> found this little guy: https://github.com/GM-Script-Writer-62850/Ubuntu-Mainline-Kernel-Updater
[03:43] <tomreyn> madLyfe: http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/wget_kernel_mainline.sh
[03:44] <pi0> does ubuntu use system 5 or system D
[03:49] <Bashing-om> pi0: systemd.
[03:50] <Bashing-om> pi0: Joweverm 14.04 is upstart .
[03:51] <yangjianwen> 有人吗
[03:51] <Bashing-om> However*
[03:51] <pi0> ?
[03:52] <pi0> oh i see
[03:52] <pi0> what was the older commands for system V
[03:54] <madLyfe> tomreyn: is that the same script?
[03:57] <guiverc> pi0 system V can mean a lot of things, it's a generation of unix (introduced 1983), so could mean Sh, the init scripts (as per your sysd question) or a lot more... most of which pre-date Ubuntu anyway and thus are off-topic here
[03:58] <larissa_1> hi
[04:00] <guiverc> pi0, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto  may be of interest (sysd/sysvinit/...)
[04:16] <illuminated> if you upgrade between releases, and the packages you have installed are not in the repos for the upgraded distro, does the upgrade remove those packages?
[04:18] <Tin_man> illuminated, not sure, not an expert, but maybe auto remove.?? i'm sure someone else might no the answer..
[04:19] <Wild_Man> illuminated, I now for sure it does if the old package is not compatible with new version
[04:20] <Tin_man> *know (no)
[04:21] <Wild_Man> now/know
[04:21] <Wild_Man> thanks Tin_man
[04:21] <Wild_Man> getting late here
[04:21] <Tin_man> same
[04:22] <Tin_man> getting older by the nano second.
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> illuminated: why do you ask? you got issues?
[04:27] <illuminated> lotuspsychje: not really.  there was a program I added from a ppa that no longer is installed.  wondered where it went.  I'm going to be switching from windows to ubuntu soon, and just trying to figure out how ubuntu does things.
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> illuminated: if you upgrade, apt will disable external ppa's
[04:29] <Tin_man> illuminated, my advise is get a box and install ubuntu, keep windows on the other box, and learn before jumping ship..
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> illuminated: we also dont support using external ppa's here, so we advice if you can, not to use them
[04:30] <Tin_man> and by no means dual boot.
[04:30] <Striking7> I started off by dual booting back in 2004 - gave me a chance to take things step by step
[04:30] <Striking7> It worked great for me.
[04:30] <Striking7> Later I ended up running windows in a virtual machine and ditched the windows install
[04:31] <Wild_Man> I dual boot and use virtual machines, virtual machine is a safe way to start, it is a lot harder to install dual boot with UEFI these days
[04:31] <Striking7> and now I end up using a windows vm maybe once a year
[04:31] <Striking7> Your milage may vary
[04:31] <Striking7> Wild_Man: that's true. UEFI can trip things up sometimes, depending on the variant
[04:32] <illuminated> well I got ubuntu running on a vbox vm on windows.
[04:32]  * Striking7 hates Mac's UEFI
[04:32] <Striking7> illuminated: that's a good introductory step. I just introduced my neighbor (19 year old kid) to Linux via virtual machines a few weeks ago
[04:32] <Striking7> he's already dual booting, and rarely uses his windows partition
[04:33] <Striking7> the VM is a great way to introduce yourself to Linux in a non-destructive manner. If you screw something up you can just roll it back, wipe it and reinstall, etc.
[04:33] <Wild_Man> Striking7, if I get into trouble with booting issues I get help from oldfred on the forum he is the best that I know and is a supermoderator as am I there so he is always around
[04:33] <Tin_man> i started computing in 1984, and i have 4 windows machines (real) and 3 linux machines (real).. I like real..
[04:34] <Tin_man> i married a real woman in 1975, 43 year later still real..
[04:34] <Wild_Man> Tin_man, I like real to but I do run some vm's on Ubuntu
[04:34] <Striking7> I started in 95 - I have a 2005 Mac Mini, a 2007 iMac, an 8 core xeon, and a 2007 alienware laptop
[04:34] <Striking7> all of them run linux
[04:35] <Striking7> I use vms of linux to make virtual appliances that I distribute to colleagues and friends.
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> lets keep it ontopic guys, we have a nice #ubuntu-discuss
[04:35] <Striking7> Some for work (some colleagues aren't so hot at configuring a system, so it's nice to just ship them a pre-done system), some are wargames for friends
[04:35] <Striking7> (hack this VM if you can! Here are some hints...)
[04:35] <Striking7> sorry lotuspsychje
[04:36] <rangemonger> ok so i was able to boot with vt-d on but the bad news is that it only boots on arch, ubuntu still hangs
[04:36] <rangemonger> can anyone help debug whats going on here?
[04:37] <rangemonger> i can post where its stuck on booting
[04:37] <rangemonger> but i'll have to type it manually
[04:38] <rangemonger> there are different things on each of my 2 screens
[04:38] <rangemonger> one is stuck at a ppdev parallel port thing and the other has an "acpi error (bug)"
[04:38] <Tin_man> Goodnight All, remember "Keep it Real"  :-)
[04:40] <rangemonger> acpi bios error (bug): could not resolve...
[04:48] <rangemonger> how does one get the verbose messages of a previously failed boot?
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> rangemonger: you have been here before, if you want support on your issues we advice to post your issue all-in-one line with all details like ubuntu version, kernel,pastebin of your errors, details matter on this for volunteers to be able to help
[04:51] <rangemonger> lotuspsychje: i would if i knew how to post the failed boot info, it hangs on boot, i can turn vtd off and then boot fine but where do i go to get the previous, failed boot messages?
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> rangemonger: start with ubuntu version, kernel, errors take a pic? or write it down? F1 at boot for textboot?
[04:54] <rangemonger> 18.04.1, it is text booting but its a lot to write done, cant take a pic before the os boots can i? does it log this info anywhere, i could turn vtd off and boot normally and then copy/paste it like that if i knew where it logs the previous boot
[04:55] <rangemonger> *down
[05:01] <rangemonger> lotuspsychje:  1 shows: "ppdev: user-space parallel port driver" as the last line
[05:02] <rangemonger> mon2 shows: acpi bios error (bug): could not resolve [\_SB.PCI0.SAT0.SPT3._GTF.DSSP], AE_NOT_FOUND  (20180313/psargs-330)
[05:16] <Haris> hello all
[05:17] <Haris> do we have separately built php pkgs for apache mpm prefork, event, etc etc .. for trusty, xenial, bionic ?
[05:18] <Haris> also the same for PPA
[05:31] <tomreyn> madLyfe: no, not the same script. one which is IMO better, allows you to verify the authenticity of mainline kernel builds (validates their GPG signatures).
[05:31] <jiqiren> seems the digital ocean mirror is behind, do-release-upgrade fails out. :(
[05:32] <tomreyn> madLyfe: i dont like the idea of downloading .deb files from some plain http webserver and install them, especially not kernel images.
[05:32] <tomreyn> jiqiren: i guess you can always change the mirror server
[05:32] <madLyfe> does the script you posted have a github?
[05:33] <tomreyn> madLyfe: i mirror it at github.com/tomreyn/scripts/
[05:33] <tomreyn> madLyfe: but i only pull from tj occasionally, no promises
[05:34] <Flannel> jiqiren: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors  will let you know the various syncronicity of mirrors
[05:36] <jiqiren> Flannel: thanks!
[05:39] <dnivra> Hello everyone! I'm trying to remove kernels 4.4 installed from 16.04 which are still around after upgrading to 18.04. The packages are not available and so apt can't uninstall them. How can I uninstall kernels from a previous distro version?
[05:46] <guiverc> dnivra, have you tried `sudo apt-get autoremove`  (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RemoveOldKernels  says autremove --purge though)
[05:48] <dnivra> guiverc: Yes I did try autoremove. It didn't uninstall the linux kernel 4.4 though.
[05:50] <guiverc> just a guess; but if you only very recently upgraded; it may not want to remove it until there are more 'recent' kernels - ie. it's count of 'recent' has it included..  (I think the count is 4, but can be altered & i'm not sure sorry)
[05:52] <madLyfe> tomreyn: ty. if i wanted to try out different DEs should i add them to ubuntu or should i try kbuntu or kde neon?
[05:52] <dnivra> guiverc: Actually there are newer kernels: I'm running linux 4.15.0.32 and there's 4.15.0.30 as well. I think because linux 4.4 is old and doesn't belong to bionic's package repos. That's probably why autoremove doesn't remove them.
[05:54] <rangemonger> autoremove usually leave one older kernel on
[05:54] <rangemonger> *leaves
[05:56] <tomreyn> madLyfe: i'd usually add more DEs to the existing installation. but if you later decide to remove them and want to make sure everything you dont need is gone, this can take a while. so if you want to prevent this, a separate installation can make sense if its just fortestign and you're yet unsure as to whether you'll keep it.
[05:56] <madLyfe> that makes sense
[05:57] <madLyfe> is it possible so that grub will pick up inserted usb drives? for say like booting into a live usb?
[05:57] <oswald> Hello, i am trying to install 'Polybar' and it says on Ubuntu you should use 'GetDeb' i am not sure how it works here is the given link http://www.getdeb.net/app/Polybar
[05:59] <oswald> just seems to be down :D
[05:59] <tomreyn> madLyfe: there is grub-imageboot for isos + HDD images. didnt work for me out of the box, but i didt try to fiddle with it.
[06:00] <tomreyn> oswald: where does it say that you should use getdeb?
[06:00] <tomreyn> oswald: and yes, getdeb is unfortunately down for some days now (and hasn't seen updates for quite a while)
[06:01] <oswald> tomreyn: on the github documentation https://github.com/jaagr/polybar, it just says its available there
[06:01] <oswald> when i try to install it manually it says a package 'xcb-proto' is missing not sure how to install it
[06:02] <Guest76340> if i have an efi partition from windows do i need to create another efi partition for linux grub2 or can i just use the windows efi partition (104 MB)
[06:02] <oswald> also i can't join the #i3 channel because it says i need to be verified how does this work on IRC?
[06:02] <Aaron> oswald: type sudo apt-get -f install
[06:02] <tomreyn> oswald: there's a mirror at getdeb.megaglest.org, you can use this for now, but this would only work for xenial and i may trash it in the future if getdeb wont revive
[06:02] <Aaron> oswald: type /nickserv help register
[06:02] <oswald> what does -f do
[06:03] <tomreyn> fix broken
[06:03] <oswald> ok ty
[06:04] <oswald> but with ubuntu 18.04 i need to do apt-get or only apt?
[06:04] <tomreyn> Guest76340: you'll *need* to use the existing one, since there should only be one per disk.
[06:05] <tomreyn> oswald: either is fine. apt is designed to be more user freidnly, while apt-get is better suitable for scripting
[06:07] <Flannel> osw187: apt is just a combination of apt-get, apt-cache, and some other apt-* things.  To make it so you don't need to remember whther to use apt-cache or apt-get
[06:07] <tomreyn> dnivra: what's the error message you get when you try to uninstall them with apt? normally this should just work fine even when the apt source is no longer available
[06:07] <tomreyn> !paste | dnivra
[06:08] <rohit> hi
[06:10] <rohit> hello
[06:10] <dnivra> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/964nT45vsv/
[06:10] <tomreyn> rohit: hi
[06:11] <tomreyn> dnivra: it'S telling you that no such package is installed
[06:11] <tomreyn> dnivra: so either the name is not spelled correctly or it has since been removed
[06:13] <dnivra> tomreyn: Not quite. apt is saying it can't find the package. If package weren't installed, it would look like https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rg2CmBWr5S/
[06:14] <dnivra> tomreyn: And linux-headers-4.4.0-130-generic is the correct page name - it exists in 16.04. See https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial-updates/linux-headers-4.4.0-130-generic
[06:17] <osw187> i can't find polybar on the getdeb link you sent me tomreyn
[06:21] <tomreyn> dnivra: one of your outputs is that of apt-get, the other is of apt, this may explain the different messages
[06:22] <tomreyn> dnivra: you can always dpkg -r or -P a package, too.
[06:22] <laoguan> hello
[06:22] <Guest76340> what packages usually hold defines/macros such as R_X86_64_GOT64
[06:22] <tomreyn> (but it's not ideal, doesn't take dependencies into account)
[06:23] <tomreyn> osw187: maybe it's not there anymore. try finding a different ppa
[06:24] <dnivra> tomreyn: Ah sorry about that. I tried running both with apt but there was no difference. And dpkg -r doesn't work either. I believe the problem is that the linux 4.4. packages are not present in 18.04 and so apt/dpkg can't recognize them.
[06:24] <Flannel> dnivra: If the package is installed, dpkg still knows about it.
[06:25] <Flannel> dnivra: can you pastebin `dpkg -l | grep linux-*`
[06:27] <tomreyn> dnivra: if dpkg -r can't remove them, they're not installed. if they're installed, dpkg -l would list them
[06:28] <dnivra> Flannel: Here's the output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RSDVGmnv4J/
[06:28] <Flannel> dnivra: Ok.  That doesn't show any 4.4 kernels.  What makes you think you still have them installed?
[06:29] <dnivra> tomreyn, Flannel: I have the linux kernel 4.4 files in /boot.
[06:29] <Flannel> dnivra: which files?
[06:30] <dnivra> So I upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04 and I think the 4.4 kernels were not uninstalled during the upgrade.
[06:30] <Flannel> dnivra: Can you give an example of one of the 4.4 files in /boot?
[06:30] <Flannel> dnivra: Are you dualbooting this machine or anything like that?
[06:31] <dnivra> Flannel: Here are the files in /boot - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TkRkJZrs5J/. And no I'm not dual booting - 1 Ubuntu installation only.
[06:32] <Flannel> dnivra: Alright, what does `dpkg -S /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-130-generic` give you?  (I think I typed that correctly, go ahead and tab complete it!)
[06:34] <dnivra> Flannel: That was correct :). dpkg-query says "no path found matching pattern /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-130-generic"
[06:34] <Flannel> dnivra: Those 4.4 files aren't controlled by dpkg.  Which means they either were installed outside of dpkg/apt, or you somehow deleted the knowledge of their package from dpkg.  Since that's the case, nothing bad will happen if you just rm those files.
[06:35] <Flannel> This isn't a normal thing.  If the files were a part of a package (and nothing was corrupted or anything in your package database), it doesn't matter *what* happens in the repos, dpkg will still know about the packages on your machine (because dpkg doesn't know/care about the repos)
[06:35] <Flannel> So you could have files installed from a kernel from a decade ago, and they'd still be there until you removed them.
[06:36] <Flannel> "they" being the files *and* knowledge of the package in dpkg.
[06:36] <Shibe9>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[06:36] <dnivra> Flannel: Ah I see. Honestly I'm not sure dpkg doesn't know about them. I simply installed 18.04 without formatting / and that's it. I had some problems with EFI but I don't think that's relevant here.
[06:37] <dnivra> Anyhow it's safe to just rm them so I'll go ahead and do that.
[06:37] <Flannel> OOh
[06:37] <Flannel> dnivra: You installed it over top? not upgraded?
[06:37] <Flannel> dnivra: I am 100% sure that dpkg doesn't know about them (otherwise dpkg -S would tell you what package they came from)
[06:38] <dnivra> Flannel: Yeah installed over top. I just realized I probably wasn't clear about that part in my original query.
[06:38] <Flannel> dnivra: So, when you installed overtop, that is NOT an upgrade.  You literally just made the installer put all of its packages/files on the same file systems as before.  It doesn't clean them.  So the NEW dpkg database replaced the OLD dpkg database by overwriting it entirely.
[06:39] <Flannel> dnivra: So, you've probably got a *lot* of files that are potentially just sitting around.
[06:39] <Flannel> It's like unzipping a file that contains "B.txt" into a directory that already contained A.txt.  You end up with a directory containing A.txt and B.txt.
[06:40] <Flannel> Except dpkg only knows it unzipped B.txt, so it knows nothing about A.txt
[06:41] <dnivra> Flannel: Thanks for the explanation! Makes sense. And sorry about the wrong terminology: I completely mislead everyone.
[06:41] <dnivra> Yeah lot's of files surely: at bare minimum the two kernels. Going to be a huge problem tracking them all.
[06:41] <dnivra> I guess I was probably better off upgrading or formatting / than this :).
[06:42] <Flannel> dnivra: No worries.  We figured it out.  Doing this sort of "upgrade" is certainly not best practices.  But other than extra HDD space, it /probably/ won't cause any major headaches.
[06:43] <Flannel> dnivra: If you move /home to a separate partition, you can always reinstall "around" /home and have a clean install.
[06:43] <Flannel> dnivra: anyway, if you have anything behaving funnily in the future, extra files (especially like "old configuration files" or whatever) is probably a good place to check first.
[06:44] <prawnsalad025>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[06:45] <jeremies> Is safe to run amule in ubuntu?
[06:45] <dnivra> Flannel: Right. I used to do the separate /home but then I used to run out of space on / with lots of space on /home or vice versa. I decided it's better to just have a single / after that.
[06:46] <dnivra> I will keep in mind about the old config files causing issues when debugging any future problems. Thanks for that tip1
[06:46] <Flannel> dnivra: Or use LVM!  So you can resize dynamically!
[06:47] <Flannel> dnivra: But yeah, partition size management is something that takes a bit to get a feel for your use-cases.
[06:47] <Flannel> dnivra: You *could* always migrate to a separate /home, reinstall, then migrate back to a combined one.  If the "bonus files" become an issue in the future.
[06:49] <dnivra> Flannel: I've never tried out LVM so that's something I will check out. Looks interesting. And yeah, the other solution is always there: migrate, reinstall and go back to single /.
[06:49] <dnivra> Thanks for those tips!
[06:50] <Flannel> dnivra: no problem. Happy... hunting... or whatever!
[06:50] <dnivra> Flannel, tomreyn, guiverc: Thanks for all the help :)!
[06:51] <jeremies> Is safe to run amule in ubuntu?
[06:54] <guiverc> jeremies, amule is in the universe repo, so it's as safe as any in that repo?  (https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=amule) if that worries you.. what do you mean by 'safe'??
[06:55] <jeremies> guiverc: if it does have security vulnerabilities...
[06:57] <guiverc> you'll have to check yourself ; and see if it meets your needs - it's from upstream, MOTU & I don't know the named people nor package - you make up your own mind as with any 'universe' FOSS package in my mind... you know your needs, you do the homework...
[06:57] <guiverc> https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/amule  (forgot to paste this)
[07:00] <neon__> also how do i update my touchpad driver so it detects my touchpad as an actual touchpad instead of as a mouse
[07:05] <Aaron> neon__: if you use gnome go to the settings and Mouse and then Touch pad
[07:05] <Aaron> you'll find it there.
[07:07] <jeremies> guiverc: thanks
[07:08] <Trangar> If I want to get rid of log text in my ubuntu splash screen, what keywords should I look for? All resources I find are about removing the splash screen altogether. http://puu.sh/BewOe/8d4ce880f1.png
[07:08] <neon__> Aaron: im using kubuntu
[07:27] <pi0> i am running ubuntu on virutalbox and loaded vbox addons, the iso is loaded but i cannot find it on /media or /mnt
[07:39] <Zexaron> Hello
[07:40] <Zexaron> I'm trying to set ubuntu to boot toram , the wiki says "no longer necessary" I'm guessing it's for the earlier workaround, so what do I need to do right now ?
[07:40] <Zexaron> I have the latest LTS x64
[07:40] <Zexaron> Also, i'll be putting it on a multiboot using YUMI
[07:40] <ZaZaQR> hello
[07:49] <szt20>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[07:50] <ZaZaQR> whoa
[07:50] <ZaZaQR> i was going to click on that
[08:04] <ph88> i tried mainline kernel 4.16 which really fixed some problems for me. But not all problems are gone .. should i also try 4.17 and 4.18 ?
[08:18] <ducasse> ph88: look for bug reports on your problem, see if it is fixed in later kernels
[08:19] <guiverc> ph88, 4.16 is not a Ubuntu supported kernel from what I can see; 4.15 & 4.17 are (18.10 currently uses 4.17) so I'd suggest using a supported patched Ubuntu kernel so it's automatically patched; I suspect 4.16 you'd have to update yourself security wise, but I don't know (opinion only)
[08:21] <guiverc> (my point was I'd try 4.17 due to Ubuntu Support .. 18.10 may go 4.18 before launch..; but it's only a short-term-support kernel anyway for Ubuntu)..  but you do what's right for your issue..
[08:21] <Dreaman> nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ uname -a
[08:21] <Dreaman> Linux ubuntu-ivan 4.18.0-041800-generic #201808122131 SMP Sun Aug 12 21:33:20 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:21] <Dreaman> nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$
[08:21] <Dreaman> :)~
[08:22] <enaut[m]> hey, I'm trying to make my first ppa but upon dput ppa:user/repos  changes.file.changes I get an error: error 58: gpgme_op_verify - what does it mean? I've set up the gpg stuff and added the key tho launchpad...
[08:22] <ducasse> Dreaman: please don't do that unless asked, you should know better
[08:22] <Dreaman> ok
[08:24] <Dreaman> ducasse command to upgreat to 18.10
[08:24] <Dreaman> :)
[08:24] <Dreaman> help me
[08:25] <neonkde> how do i see what package owns x file
[08:25] <ducasse> Dreaman: 18.10 support is in #ubuntu+1
[08:25] <Dreaman> ok
[08:25] <EriC^> neonkde: dpkg -S /path/to/file
[08:25] <neonkde> ok
[08:26] <Dreaman> i am mi=ute
[08:26] <Dreaman> mute
[08:27] <ph88> guiverc, if i install 4.17 kernel will it automatically update with normal software updates ?
[08:27] <enaut[m]> anyone could help me with the dput issue?
[08:28] <EriC^> Dreaman: why you want to upgrade to 18.10? it's unreleased still, might have issues
[08:28] <guiverc> ph88, what release are you on?  18.04 LTS (with HWE enabled) will soon use 18.10 kernel, where by it would get updated I'd assume if using 18.10 and have HWE enabled (depends on how you installed it I bet), if other release, I doubt it...
[08:28] <Dreaman> a use 18.04 lts and new kernel
[08:28] <ducasse> ph88: no, not until a later kernel is released (which won't happen for a long time)
[08:28] <Dreaman> no need
[08:29] <Dreaman> change name in repo
[08:29] <Dreaman> upgreat
[08:29] <Dreaman> use 14 years ubuntu
[08:29] <guiverc> yeah, my "soon" wasn't real accurate; will be after 18.10 is released...
[08:29] <EriC^> !mainline | Dreaman does this help?
[08:29] <EriC^> Dreaman: you can install newer kernels on your current ubuntu
[08:30] <Dreaman> no need help me
[08:30] <Dreaman> i now
[08:31] <ph88> guiverc, how do you know that 18.04 will get 18.10 kernel ?
[08:32] <ducasse> ph88: that's how hwe works
[08:32] <Dreaman> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[08:32] <guiverc> ph88, by default 18.04 sticks with 18.04's kernel, but with HWE enabled, it moves to 18.10, 19.04, 19.10 then 20.04 when released...
[08:32] <Dreaman> just update
[08:32] <guiverc> ph88, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[08:32] <Dreaman> wath is the problem
[08:33] <EriC^> Dreaman: if you want to update then "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" takes you to 18.10
[08:33] <Dreaman> no work
[08:33] <ducasse> Dreaman: the problem is that mainline kernels are unsupported and don't have the patches regular ubuntu kernels do
[08:34] <EriC^> Dreaman: type grep -i prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[08:34] <EriC^> Dreaman: type "grep -i prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades"
[08:34] <ph88> ducasse, 4.17 gets regular minor updates why you say no new update in a long time ?
[08:35] <Dreaman> EriC^  name
[08:35] <Dreaman> new
[08:35] <Dreaman> just change
[08:35] <ducasse> ph88: you need to install mainline updates manually
[08:35] <Waldo26>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[08:35] <Waldo26>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  ­ https://i.redd.it/8w0r915sm1ty.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[08:36] <ph88> this is also strange when i restart my pc i see:  unattended-upgrade in progress during shutdown, please don't turn off the computer   ... i've never seen this before
[08:36] <ph88> ducasse, i have 4.16 mainline kernel manually installed (from 4.15 default) .. now i will try the latest 4.17  .. but i rather not install kernels myself so the option that guiverc seems interesting
[08:40] <Felishia> can someone help me figuring out why every time that I connect the charger in ubuntu 18.04 I don't have sound
[08:40] <Felishia> it recognizes the charger as a USB device
[08:40] <Felishia> and tries to redirect the sound to the charger
[08:41] <Felishia> so I have to manually go to the console and tell it to use the default device
[08:41] <Felishia> but then it randomly switches back to the charger
[08:41] <neonkde> Felishia: lol
[08:41] <Felishia> :(
[08:41] <Felishia> so I can't charge my computer and listen to anything at once wtf
[08:42] <neonkde> rip
[08:43] <Zexaron> ubunutu legacy bios boot options menu stupid filename txt.cfg
[08:43] <Zexaron> almost didn't fount it if I would do grep
[08:43] <ph88> this unattended-update during restart already takes 10 minutes .. how long should i wait ?
[08:45] <neonkde> how do i correctly install virtualbox
[08:45] <neonkde> neon@neon-X555BA:~$ virtualbox
[08:45] <neonkde> Segmentation fault
[08:45] <ducasse> neonkde: which release is this?
[08:46] <neonkde> 16.04.1-Ubuntu
[08:46] <neonkde> Linux neon-X555BA 4.15.0-30-generic #32~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 26 20:25:39 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:49] <neonkde> i did sudo apt install virtualbox
[08:50] <guiverc> neonkde, i would suggest full-upgrade then try - 16.04.5 I think is the current version, not .1
[08:50] <neonkde> ok
[08:51] <neonkde> 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
[08:52] <guiverc> i checked; 16.04.5 is the current version, are you using KDE Neon ? and not Ubuntu?
[08:53] <ducasse> guiverc: it's .1 when hwe is not enabled, iirc
[08:54] <guiverc> okay - sorry neonkde (my 16.04.5 doesn't have HWE enabled..)
[08:54] <neonkde> guiverc: yes
[08:54] <neonkde> Sysinfo for 'neon-X555BA': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.13.4 on KDE neon 5.13 powered by Linux 4.15.0-30-generic, CPU: AMD A6-9220 RADEON R4, 5 COMPUTE CORES 2C+3G at 1701-1786/2500 MHz, RAM: 5357/7487 MB, Storage: 13/314 GB, 198 procs, 2.43h up
[08:55] <ducasse> neonkde: neon is supported in #kde-neon
[08:57] <dreadkopp> hey guys. hope you guys can help me .... i have a dozen similar machines which i like to update via a cronjob (after tested on the 'spare' machine) ... update-script includes these two lines: https://hastebin.com/aqewavozet.sql however it still prompts me when it tries to update grub if i want to keep the current config or change it .....
[08:58] <dreadkopp> ubuntu server 18.04
[09:08] <ubuntu> Hi,
[09:08] <ubuntu> Hi
[09:17] <Guest35342> hello
[09:18] <Guest35342> I have a pc in which I am able to use Ubuntu then I buy a laptop and
[09:18] <Guest35342> when I try to install ubuntu in my laptop there is a black screen but when I use a flashlight on my laptop screen then I barely able to see a menu which asks to try or install I get this same problem with Kali Linux also
[09:19] <Guest35342> hey guys
[09:19] <blackroot> Guest35342: have you tried to just punch enter?
[09:19] <Guest35342> can u explain
[09:20] <blackroot> When you see that text, just push enter
[09:20] <blackroot> see what happens
[09:21] <Guest35342> u mean with shift key
[09:21] <Guest35342> yes i tried it
[09:21] <Guest35342> with nomodset
[09:21] <sebsebseb> oh memory lane!
[09:21] <Guest35342> after using this method i get a black screen
[09:27] <Guest35342> hey!
[09:27] <Guest35342> can u help me
[09:27] <ppf> reasking from yesterday: i'm on xenial. how do i downgrade gcc to 5.3?
[09:28] <sebsebseb> !ask | Guest35342
[09:28] <ducasse> !patience | Guest35342
[09:28] <ppf> install gcc-5=5.3 fails because of dependencies, so how do i do this correctly?
[09:28] <Guest35342> I have a pc in which I am able to use Ubuntu then I buy a laptop and
[09:28] <Guest35342> when I try to install ubuntu in my laptop there is a black screen but when I use a flashlight on my laptop screen then I barely able to see a menu which asks to try or install I get this same problem with Kali Linux also
[09:31] <ppf> is there a way to recursively downgrade dependencies?
[09:31] <ppf> in a safe manner
[09:32] <Guest35342> hey sebsebseb
[09:33] <sebsebseb> Guest35342: hi what you want?
[09:34] <Guest35342> I have a pc in which I am able to use Ubuntu then I buy a laptop and
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[09:35] <Guest35342> sebsebseb: when i try to install ubuntu  i get a black screen
[09:35] <Guest35342> but when i use a flash light on my screen
[09:35] <sebsebseb> Guest35342: when do you get the black screen ?
[09:35] <Guest35342> when it ask to install or try
[09:35] <sebsebseb> and what was that about a flash light ?
[09:36] <Guest35342> when i use a flash light on my screen i am barely able to see a menu to isntall
[09:36] <sebsebseb> Guest35342: I just had my own werid issue, wehre yep black screen, when booting up  what was meant to be the live session
[09:37] <sebsebseb> Guest35342: Grub should come up, it's mostly dark in Ubuntu by default
[09:37] <sebsebseb> or black and white kind of thing
[09:37] <sebsebseb> from that you put try Ubuntu from live session
[09:37] <y0sh19>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[09:37] <y0sh19>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  ­ https://i.redd.it/8w0r915sm1ty.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[09:38] <Guest35342> when i try fr live  then i stucks
[09:38] <Guest35342> then it stucks
[09:40] <pi0> what is the task manager version for ubunut
[09:40] <pi0> but console
[09:40] <sebsebseb> Guest35342: when you put try ubuntu on the live sesison so from grub
[09:40] <sebsebseb> Guest35342: it just goes black screen or what?
[09:41] <ppf> htop
[09:41] <ppf> pi0: ^
[09:41] <Guest35342> i using csm mode so it not showing grub
[09:41] <pi0> in order to kill process you need to run as root?
[09:42] <ppf> no
[09:42] <ppf> but you can only kill processes that you own
[09:45] <pi0> nice
[09:45] <pi0> i opened an app
[09:45] <pi0> but not sure the name
[09:45] <pi0> but i see the window open
[09:46] <pi0> it only says terminal
[09:46] <pi0> how do i kill that process
[09:49] <nayem> How to check used internet data and internet speed on Ubuntu?
[09:50] <nayem> Not for only one day. Is it possible to check the usage of months?
[09:52] <Guest2510>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[10:02] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:05] <quim> Do you see my two nicknames quim and jeremies ?
[10:05] <JadedJ> Hi
[10:06] <JadedJ> I'm running xubuntu 16 LTS, when autocomplete is not working for tar
[10:06] <JadedJ> but it is for 'cd' and 'apt-get'
[10:06] <JadedJ> I'm running xubuntu 16 LTS, autocomplete doesn't work for the 'tar' command
[10:07] <BluesKaj> quim, nope
[10:08] <quim> you only see quim ?
[10:08] <guiverc> JadedJ, what do you mean autocomplete?  if you hit tab twice, you should see the options (many commands start with 'ta'
[10:08] <BluesKaj> only one allowed per server
[10:08] <BluesKaj> quim,^
[10:10] <guiverc> JadedJ, even at three characters; `tar` could be 3 commands on my machine, so autocomplete on a single tab isn't yet available...
[10:12] <quim> BluesKaj, thanks
[10:14] <botato> hola
[10:14] <botato> now I'm botato
[10:16] <JadedJ> guiverc: What about if I use the parameters first and want to auto complete the filename?
[10:18] <JadedJ> tar -xjf
[10:20] <guiverc> JadedJ, i can't speak authoritatively here, but if the shell knows you are typing a filename, it'll autocomplete (if unique & matching), a test on my box had it expand a tarball correctly...
[10:30] <mezod> hello, while connected to a remote machine via ssh, is it possible to do something like "command > file" so that the file ends up in your local machine?
[10:30] <mezod> I see you can do "ssh user@machine command > log" but what if already sshed?
[10:31] <hateball> mezod: blah > user@yourhost:/file.log
[10:32] <mezod> hmm nice thank you, now need to figure my host x)
[10:32] <hateball> actually no that wont work
[10:33] <hateball> what the... *gets coffee for a brain*
[10:34] <mezod> aww
[10:42] <ppf> here's what i'm getting trying to downgrade gcc: https://ghostbin.com/paste/9dpcz
[10:42] <ppf> how do i do this correctly
[10:42] <JadedJ> Is there a good guide out there on how to install HoneyD on ubuntu 16 LTS?
[10:44] <Trangar> If I want to get rid of log text in my ubuntu splash screen, what keywords should I look for? All resources I find are about removing the splash screen altogether. http://puu.sh/BewOe/8d4ce880f1.png
[10:45] <guiverc> mezod, i'd just create the file on the machine being used, then `scp` it do the machine you want it on, then delete it on used.machine...   (ie. I've never wanted a better method than that)
[10:46] <mezod> yeah, i thought there'd be a fancier way than that :p
[10:46] <MeiR> Hi, we employ a new freelance devops and gave him root privileges, so we prefer to carefully track his actions, at least for the first period
[10:46] <ppf> mezod, hateball: command > ssh user@machine 'cat > file'
[10:47] <MeiR> what would be the best way to log his ssh logins and commands, and any file uploads \ modifications? (maybe there're more things that don't come to my mind)
[10:48] <mezod> hmm that's confusing
[10:48] <ppf> MeiR: with root access? none
[10:48] <MeiR> ppf, why? because he'll have anyway access for stopping these logs?
[10:49] <guiverc> Trangar, splash hides the startup-text-messages; 'ie. quiet splash', so i can't see how getting rid of slash would help..  -- i think you need to select a new plymouth screen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth
[10:49] <ppf> yes
[10:49] <MeiR> ppf, let's assume he won't dig to that level, therefore he won't know
[10:49] <guiverc> Trangar, this is easier https://askubuntu.com/questions/2007/how-do-i-change-the-plymouth-bootscreen  (use 65-up-vote answer)
[10:50] <MeiR> in addition, if it helps, i meant to "su" privileges with his own user, and not the actual root
[10:50] <Trangar> guiverc: I'll have a look, thanks
[10:51] <ppf> MeiR: that's the same thing
[10:52] <jeremies> If I make this openssl certificate with one PC can I export it to another PC ?
[10:52] <jeremies> openssl req -x509 -sha256 -nodes -days 365 -newkey rsa:4096 -keyout ~/.config/hexchat/certs/freenode.pem -out ~/.config/hexchat/certs/freenode.pem
[10:52] <ppf> jeremies: sure
[10:52] <jeremies> How ?
[10:52] <ppf> copy it?
[10:52] <MeiR> ppf: allright, so as i said we're assuming he won't know
[10:53] <wind> you know a fix to network manager disconnecting either wired or wireless soon after boot, and once manually reconnected works infinitely till next boot? still happens to me over several major versions, on totally different computers, no matter what desktop (mate/unity)?
[10:53] <jeremies> I try it with hexchat but doesn't work
[10:53] <ppf> MeiR: you can enable auditing in pam
[10:56] <ppf> MeiR: actually, if you don't give him su but only sudo, and nail that down properly, that'd be much saner
[10:56] <jeremies> ppf: hexchat doesn't allow to connect to freenode with tor network
[10:57] <ppf> and also auditable with sudoreplay
[10:57] <ppf> jeremies: and why's that
[10:57] <MeiR> ppf, i added him inside "visudo" with: ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[10:57] <jeremies> ppf: using this certificate copied from another user created from my pc
[10:57] <MeiR> it's considered only sudo, isn't it?
[10:57] <ppf> jeremies: why
[10:58] <ppf> MeiR: yes, but after sudo su - it's not
[10:58] <jeremies> ppf: I followed the tutorial in https://medium.com/@defcon201/tutorial-connecting-to-freenode-via-tor-like-a-boss-f8d74199b634 but the nickname that puts freenode then is my ubuntu username and I don't want that
[10:58] <MeiR> how can i tell if he's allowed to "su -" ?
[10:58] <jeremies> then I created a new username in ubuntu and created a openssl certificate with this username
[10:59] <jeremies> after copying it to my real username it won't work
[10:59] <MeiR> to "sudo su" *
[10:59] <ppf> MeiR: he's alloed
[11:00] <MeiR> ok, so can i please know how should i implement your suggestion: "if you don't give him su but only sudo"?
[11:00] <ppf> jeremies: better ask this in #hexchat
[11:01] <jeremies> ok, thanks ppf
[11:01] <ppf> MeiR: whitelist the commands he's allowed to use
[11:01] <Fuchs> jeremies: where does it put that user? Also you can use hexchat to connect via Tor, you just need to SASL external, we have manuals for that on our website (freenode.net)
[11:02] <Guest38601> Ubuntu 14.04.5 Support?
[11:04] <Guest38601> install Minecraft in Ubuntu 14.04.5?
[11:04] <jeremies> Fuchs: in my nickname. Now is jeremies, because I'm not connected through tor. But if I connect throught tor it becomes quim (my desktop pc username)
[11:04] <Fuchs> that's configureable and unrealted to the certificate
[11:05] <Fuchs> *unrelated, even
[11:05] <jeremies> Fuchs: yes I can do /nick newNick
[11:06] <jeremies> when I issue /whois newNick it gives quim@tor...
[11:06] <Fuchs> that's the ident
[11:06] <Fuchs> that is also configurable in hexchat
[11:06] <jeremies> or something like that
[11:06] <Fuchs> as far as I am aware it has to be the same as your registered nick in order to get SASL to work, but it's definitely configureable in hexchat  (and every other sane client)
[11:07] <Fuchs> I'm rather sure the config is called "username" in hexchat, where you configure the network as well
[11:07] <eldritch14>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[11:07] <jeremies> Fuchs: thank you very much I will try that
[11:19] <fibo_mach>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[11:19] <fibo_mach>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  ­ https://i.redd.it/8w0r915sm1ty.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[11:22] <zoli__> hello, i have installed clementine music player, but I can only start it from command line, it is missing from the dash menu
[11:23] <zoli__> altough there is a dekstop file for that, but it seems it is somehow not considered
[11:23] <zoli__> why is that?
[11:23] <zoli__> /usr/share/applications/clementine.desktop
[11:24] <Tin_man> zoli__, how did you install it?
[11:24] <zoli__> Tin_man: via Synaptic
[11:24] <zoli__> and not as a snap app
[11:26] <zoli__> when i try to start it and type clementine in the gnome3 app search box, it only offers me another clementine to install as as snap app, instead of showing the already installed clemetine. The 2 apps have different icons too
[11:26] <Tin_man> hmm, don't know, does it show up as a removable Application?
[11:27] <zoli__> in synaptic? yes
[11:27] <Tin_man> i have also 2 different versions in the Ubuntu Software center
[11:27] <zoli__> yes
[11:28] <zoli__> there are 2 vesions
[11:28] <zoli__> 1 is a snap app, the other is the nomal app
[11:28] <zoli__> i installed the normal app
[11:28] <Tin_man> maybe try removing it, and install the other one. :) just a guess..
[11:28] <zoli__> yeah, but i dont want to use the snap version :)
[11:28] <zoli__> it takes up much more space
[11:29] <zoli__> as well as memeory
[11:29] <Tin_man> have you tried rebooting? again just a shot in the dark..
[11:29] <hadifarnoud> is there a way to prevent root password change in scenarios like rescue mode?
[11:30] <zoli__> sure, i have installed it several days ago
[11:30] <zoli__> hadifarnoud: no
[11:34] <Tin_man> don't know boritek, maybe remove, re-install.. that is the only option I can come up with.
[11:42] <bolero> hello
[11:43] <ioria> boritek, Tools -> Preferences -> Behaviour -> "When Clementine starts ... Always show the main window"
[11:46] <T3ll0ll3t> hmm
[11:47] <opentext> Hi there!
[11:49] <JimBuntu> Hi opentext . If this is your first time here ( or such ), this is a support channel for Ubuntu and official flavors. If you need help, please post your question. If you want to be helpful then I thank you.
[11:52] <boritek> ioria: that is already set, but the problem here is that, I the app icon does not show up at all in my dash menu
[11:53] <ioria> boritek, you mean you cannot see the icon or it does not start from dash but only from terminal ?
[11:54] <opentext> thank you. just trying to be helpful :)
[11:54] <boritek> ioria: i cannot see the icon, so I cannot start it either, I can only start it from the command line
[11:54] <ioria> boritek,    sudo apt install --reinstall clementine
[11:55] <boritek> the weird thing is that i can see 2 desktop files:
[11:55] <boritek> /usr/share/app-install/desktop/clementine:clementine.desktop
[11:55] <boritek> /usr/share/applications/clementine.desktop
[11:55] <boritek> i renamed the first one, to /usr/share/app-install/desktop/clementine:clementine.desktop2 and restarted gnome-shell
[11:55] <boritek> but it didnt help either
[11:56] <ioria> boritek,    you can always make a custom launche in  ~/.local/share/applications
[11:56] <boritek> ioria: reinstalling didnt help me either
[11:57] <ioria> boritek,   revert the changes you did first
[11:58] <boritek> ioria: do you also have both of these files?
[11:58] <ioria> boritek,   yes
[11:58] <boritek> reinstalling didnt provide the /usr/share/app-install/desktop/clementine:clementine.desktop file
[11:59] <ioria> boritek,   ps -A | grep clem
[11:59] <boritek> i can see only my renamed old file /usr/share/app-install/desktop/clementine:clementine.desktop2
[11:59] <boritek> ioria: it does not run atm
[12:00] <ioria> boritek,   usually you don't need to rename those files
[12:00] <Ryvius> Hello, I'd like to use my nVidia card for GPU encoding, but with this guide from 2016 I'll need to rebuild ffmpeg and stuff... has anything easier been developed since then? https://www.maketecheasier.com/nvidias-gpu-assisted-video-encoding-nvenc-work-ubuntu/
[12:00] <boritek> ioria: what is that file btw?
[12:02] <ioria> boritek,    .desktop files ; an application gets registered into the desktop's menus through a desktop entry
[12:03] <boritek> ioria: i know, I mean that destop file in that different folder in /usr/share/app-install/desktop/
[12:04] <boritek> and the desktop file in there is differentr than the one in /usr/share/applications/
[12:04] <ioria> boritek,    those are installed by the app-install-data Install app-install-data package.
[12:04] <ioria> !info  app-install-data
[12:04] <boritek> i wonder why are they different
[12:05] <ioria> boritek,    they have additional metadata added for things like popularity counts and search keywords
[12:05] <qwebirc59278> hey there, i just erased debian of my laptop and installed ubuntu, however, i have two problems. First, i seem to not have a right click function right now, is there any specific packagse i should get ?
[12:05] <ioria> boritek,    but that it's not the point here
[12:06] <qwebirc59278> second, i also have an ssd in my laptop which used to have windows installed. since i didnt have a big enough usb stick i decided to not install windows. its still installed on the ssd tho. is there a way to reach that SSD_
[12:07] <boritek> ioria: I purged, autoremoved it (for the dependencies) and installed it again
[12:07] <boritek> but didnt help
[12:07] <ioria> boritek,     make a custom launche in  ~/.local/share/applications  just for test
[12:08] <boritek> ioria: the custom local one works
[12:09] <boritek> but no clue why the central desktop one does not
[12:09] <ioria> boritek,    did you edit it ?
[12:09] <boritek> no
[12:09] <boritek> just copied it over
[12:09] <ppf> using a newer gcc from ubuntu-toolchain-r doesn't work either because reasons :(
[12:09] <ppf> so the only thing i _can_ do is downgrade
[12:09] <boritek> ioria: from /usr/share/applications/clementine.desktop
[12:10] <ppf> but: https://ghostbin.com/paste/9dpcz
[12:10] <ioria> boritek,   it's the only app that behaves like that ?
[12:11] <boritek> yes
[12:14] <ioria> boritek,  yes, makes no sense for me atm
[12:18] <filifunk> Hi, everytime I boot up my computer I have to go to the terminal and run pulseaudio in order to get sound.  Is there a place I can tell the computer to run it automatically when I boot it up?
[12:45] <Ryvius> filifunk: You using Gnome? You have something called "Gnome tweak tool"?
[12:47] <adroit_machine> ‎ A few days back I installed ubuntu on a small parition. I now want to move the ubuntu to a different partition, is it possible?
[12:48] <ppf> adroit_machine: sure
[12:49] <adroit_machine> ppf: How do I do that? I have differnt swap and root parition, but I don't want swap parition anymore, plus I want to move the root partition to a differetn parition
[12:50] <ppf> sure, just copy the stuff
[12:51] <adroit_machine> ppf: copy the directories and stuff? It would be really helpful if you can point to an online resource with how to's
[12:52] <ppf> that you'll have to google yourself, i have none
[12:53] <filifunk> Ryvius:  I don't know what gnome is, is it like an add on to ubuntu?
[12:53] <neo-a-geek> hi
[12:54] <neo-a-geek> Who know how to configure apache2?
[12:55] <neo-a-geek> what the web server choose to use?
[12:55] <filifunk> Ryvius:  I'll look into that...I gotta go tho
[12:55] <filifunk> Ryvius: thanks
[13:05] <Zexaron> Hello
[13:06] <Zexaron> where do I configure keyboard locale option for the live version? Trying to make a custom ISO
[13:06] <Zexaron> as well as timezone
[13:08] <Tuor> adroit_machine: if the same partition is on the same disc, you can copy all files into a new partition (with the same FS) and you will have to configure grub.
[13:13] <garrettkajmowicz> I've installed Ubuntu 18.04 in a VirtualBox VM. I'm attempting and failing to collect a core dump. I get the initial panic on the console, but then the system hangs rather than attempting to load the dump kernel. How might I go about getting kernel core dumps working? I followed this guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/kernel-crash-dump.html.en
[13:17] <WhoAmI> hy brother
[13:30] <adroit_machine> Tuor: Could you please give commands and tell how to configure grub?
[13:31] <Terminal> adroit_machine: https://www.howtogeek.com/196655/how-to-configure-the-grub2-boot-loaders-settings/
[13:31] <hiya19>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[13:33] <Tuor> You will have to read documentation and inform your self, I can't give you step by step instructions, it is very dependent on your environment.
[13:34] <adroit_machine> ok Tuor. Can you point to an online resource?
[13:36] <Terminal> did you see my link adroit_machine ?
[13:36] <Terminal> https://www.howtogeek.com/196655/how-to-configure-the-grub2-boot-loaders-settings/
[13:39] <adroit_machine> yes Terminal
[13:39] <adroit_machine> I'm a little confused, Terminal. After I copy all the files to destination partition, should I boot the computer using live cd or what? how does that work?
[13:44] <adroit_machine> "startup disc creator" is not available in kubuntu. How do I make a bootable usb?
[13:46] <JadedJ> Hi
[13:47] <JadedJ> What is the best way to install packages that are no longer in the ubuntu package database?
[13:47] <leftyfb> JadedJ: It's recommended you don't.
[13:47] <leftyfb> JadedJ: what package are you referring to?
[13:48] <m4th> bonjour
[13:48] <JadedJ> I'm trying to install the package honeyD that is no longer available
[13:48] <JadedJ> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/honeyd
[13:48] <leftyfb> m4th: we only speak English hre.
[13:49] <JadedJ> The source code is available here
[13:49] <JadedJ> http://www.honeyd.org/release.php
[13:49] <leftyfb> JadedJ: that project hasn't been updated in over 10 years
[13:49] <m4th> ho ok thanks im soory for disturbing ,i find the french canal for ubuntu please
[13:49] <JadedJ> "Honeyd should compile and run on *BSD systems, GNU/Linux and Solaris"
[13:49] <qwebirc81659> hey there, my ubuntu doesnt recognize my ssd, how can i fix that_ it still has windows installed but id like to format it
[13:50] <leftyfb> JadedJ: Someone thinking about getting into security should understand that installing/running such a thing is a bad idea
[13:51] <leftyfb> JadedJ: https://github.com/DataSoft/Honeyd/issues/91#issuecomment-175115729
[13:51] <Guest81075> hey guys
[13:53] <Guest81075> when i try to install ubuntu after ubuntu logo i get a black screen but when i use flash light on my screen i barely able to see a menu which ask to install or try
[13:53] <Guest81075> what should i do
[13:55] <geirha> choose try
[13:56] <JadedJ> leftyfb: Thanks for your replies
[13:57] <Ryvius> Guest81075: tried turning the brightess up?
[13:57] <Guest81075> yes
[13:57] <Guest81075> but no +ve result
[13:58] <tomay> hello
[13:59] <tomay> When I upgraded to ubuntu 18.04, the UPower hibernate on critical battery is no longer triggering! Any clues!
[13:59] <Sparky-UK> Hi, has anyone got any experience with "getrlimit: Function not implemented" after an upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04?
[14:00] <JadedJ> leftyfb: I was wanting to install honeyD purely to test it out
[14:02] <thearkon> hello everyone i have a issue.. when i install ubuntu server 18.04 on a desktop machine with a nas harddrive .. when i restart the machine after the install is done i go into grub rescue mode .. ?? any ideas ??
[14:03] <ppf> thearkon: what's the error message
[14:04] <thearkon> let me boot up .. hang on.
[14:05] <thearkon> the error message is attempt to read or write outside of disk "hd0"
[14:05] <ppf> what do you mean with 'nas harddrive' btw?
[14:07] <thearkon> an actual nas hard drive .. instead of a regular everyday hard drive
[14:07] <ppf> ah
[14:07] <ppf> that's just a marketing term, it's a regular everyday harddrive
[14:08] <thearkon> haha yes..
[14:08] <leftyfb> JadedJ: you'll need to compile it then. But according to that github page, people weren't having much luck
[14:08] <ppf> thearkon: did you install ubuntu in legacy or efi mode?
[14:08] <ppf> got anything on that disk besides ubuntu?
[14:09] <thearkon> nope it was a fresh install .
[14:09] <thearkon> im trying to get a fog project machine. for inside the office here..
[14:10] <thearkon> https://fogproject.org/
[14:10] <ppf> did you install ubuntu in legacy or efi mode?
[14:11] <thearkon> lol
[14:11] <thearkon> um .. legacy..
[14:11] <Voziv> Hello, I have spotify, slack, and phpstorm installed as snaps but when I try to run them after a reboot I get "snap-confine has elevated permissions and is not confined but should be. Refusing to continue to avoid permission escalation attacks". I'm running on Ubuntu 18.04.1.
[14:11] <ppf> thearkon: can you reinstall in efi mode? or is your machine too old for that?
[14:12] <tomay> any help here
[14:12] <tomay> please
[14:13] <thearkon> its a old hp ..
[14:13] <thearkon> so probably not.
[14:14] <thearkon> would ide to raid matter ?? for the install ??
[14:17] <ppf> what could work is if you move the /boot partition closer to the beginning of the disk
[14:17] <ppf> can you boot the live disk and paste us the partition table?
[14:19] <thearkon> yeah i can do that ..
[14:21] <tomreyn> also, is it just this one disk, or multiple? lvm? software raid?
[14:22] <thearkon> its just this one disk.. a 4tb..
[14:25] <thearkon> i think i might have to manually format the partitions . for linux install to work..
[14:29] <vlt> Hello. How can I run two instances of a program like entangle?
[14:30] <nicomachus> !info entangle
[14:30] <nicomachus> vlt: not sure if you could run two instances of that on one machine if it's tied into camera hardware.
[14:31] <vlt> nicomachus: I can choose which camera to talk to.
[14:31] <nicomachus> run it from a terminal, open a new terminal and try to run a second instance.
[14:31] <vlt> Already tried that.
[14:31] <vlt> Didn't run another one.
[14:33] <vlt> Can anyone recommend another tool that will let me show live camera footage from DSLR cameras connected via USB cable (using libgphoto2, I think)?
[14:34] <linux8659>  hi ,is there an option somewhere to add a second timezone ,can t find that in default 18.04
[14:36] <blackflow> linux8659: I don't think so. If there's a way, it's specific to a program that explicitely knows how to handle multiple TZs
[14:37] <leftyfb> linux8659: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/605/multiclock/
[14:37] <linux8659> mate has it ,along with an easy suspend button access ,it s a shame
[14:38] <tomreyn> thearkon: wont work if you'll be creating the partitions before you start the server live installer. (with the alternative installer it should work, and so should manual partitioning from within the server live installer, for the most part)
[14:40] <blackflow> linux8659: so you're actually asking about what leftyfb linked, a wall _clock_ with multiple TZs? because "add a second timezone" question implies adding another /etc/timezone or another level to it, which doesn't work....
[14:40] <JadedJ> Before installing livevent in ubuntu 16, what do I need to do?
[14:41] <JadedJ> http://libevent.org/
[14:41] <linux8659> thanks
[14:41] <adroitMachine> Hi, I'm trying to copy existing linux partition to a new parition with this command: cp -a /dev/sda6/* /dev/sda8/*, but it is throwing this error: cp: failed to acess 'dev/sda8/*': Not a director
[14:42] <JadedJ> Do I only need to install the package 'build-essential' first?
[14:42] <adroitMachine> Can anybody tell me what am i doing wrong/
[14:42] <nicomachus> adroitMachine: that is NOT how you clone a partition.
[14:42] <blackflow> adroitMachine: /dev/sda*  are not directories, but block devices. you can't use cp like that. now, what do you want to do, block-level copy, or filesystem copy?
[14:43] <linux8659> androitmachine use command dd
[14:44] <thearkon> i think i used the wrong installer. used the amd64 live one instead of the 86 installer
[14:44] <adroitMachine> blackflow: I have no idea,  I was trying to migrate existing partition to a new partition. I saw on internet tutorial.
[14:44] <nicomachus> linux8659: that's a very powerful command and one that you shouldn't just tell someone to use without also telling them to carefully read the man page and use extreme caution when actually executing the command.
[14:44] <leftyfb> JadedJ: linevent is part of ubuntu
[14:44] <adroitMachine> nicomachus: can you please tell how?
[14:44] <leftyfb> libevent*
[14:44] <linux8659> sure ,yet it is not hard to learn
[14:44] <adroitMachine> I'm trying to migrate existing installation to a new bigger installation
[14:45] <nicomachus> adroitMachine: carefully read the man page for dd.
[14:45] <nicomachus> !info dd
[14:45] <nicomachus> -_-
[14:45] <leftyfb> !info coreutils
[14:45] <blackflow> it's not as simple as using just dd
[14:45] <blackflow> adroitMachine: simplest thing to do would be to mount both partitions somewhere (eg. to /mnt/src and /mnt/dest) and then use rsync between them.
[14:46] <adroitMachine> nicomachus: in the kde partition manager it is showing /dev/sda8 as mounted
[14:46] <adroitMachine> blackflow: the partiotions are mounted I think. I opened the once in the dolphin file manager
[14:47] <linux8659> anyway to make the file copying be in a queue ,in gnome ,like it is in mate?
[14:47] <pragmaticenigma> linux8659: A queue in what way?
[14:47] <blackflow> if you dd the partition, you block-copy the filesystem on it, which means its' gonna think it's the same size. And you mentioned you want to migrate "existing installation to a new bigger installation"
[14:48] <linux8659> you can copy paste files ,it doesn t run the copying simultaneously but queue them
[14:48] <thearkon> ugh.. i give up .. ...
[14:48] <linux8659> when first copy finishes the next starts ,love that in mate
[14:49] <thearkon> i might go with centos..
[14:50] <leftyfb> linux8659: why not just run mate?
[14:51] <adroitMachine> Please help me with cloning an existing kubuntu partition
[14:51] <linux8659> I m discovering gnome after years of resistance and like the looks of it ,gnome extensions makes it ok now
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> thearkon: what has the choice of architecture to do with choice of Os?
[14:53] <thearkon> lotuspsychje: well trying to setup a fog server ...
[14:53] <blackflow> adroitMachine: if both partitions are mounted, do you know their paths?
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> thearkon: ok..and how is this related to ubuntu?
[14:54] <blackflow> adroitMachine: you could use   rsync -a /src/path/ /dst/path/       using proper paths, both WITH trailing slashes. might need to use sudo for that
[14:54] <adroitMachine> blackflow: yes, I can see the path in kde partition manager: /dev/sda6 and /dev/sda8
[14:54] <blackflow> adroitMachine: no, those are block devices, not mounted filesystems
[14:54] <thearkon> trying to install ubuntu server . 18.04.1 live server. on a hp old desktop
[14:55] <adroitMachine> blackflow: I'm on kubuntu live cd, how do I know the path of filesystems?
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> thearkon: ok great, have you tryed #ubuntu-server ?
[14:55] <pragmaticenigma> linux8659: I do not believe nautilus has a feature or setting for "queueing" file copying.
[14:55] <blackflow> adroitMachine: for example, you could create two dirs:    mkdir /mnt/src    and  mkdir /mnt/dest      then mount      mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/src     and like that to 8   (assuming 6 is source and 8 is destination)
[14:55] <thearkon> lotuspsychje: hehe no let me try that .. lol
[14:56] <linux8659> thanks
[14:56] <adroitMachine> blackflow: Ok, I'm going to do that
[14:56] <blackflow> adroitMachine: please make sure you understand what these commands are doing before you copy&paste them
[14:56] <blackflow> adroitMachine: which filesystems are those, btw? what's on them?
[14:57] <adroitMachine> blackflow: the filesystem is ext4
[14:57] <newbie|3> test
[14:58] <pragmaticenigma> linux8659: This article talks about installing a differnt file utility that has an extension that will work with nautilus. It also appears everything you need /should/ be in universe. Take a look: https://askubuntu.com/a/554821
[14:58] <adroitMachine> blackflow: /dev/sda6 is the existing kubuntu installation with ext4, and /dev/sda8 is an empty ext4 partition
[14:58] <pragmaticenigma> StephanieT, newbie|3: Do you have an Ubuntu related support question
[14:58] <thearkon> leaving here bye everyone
[14:59] <blackflow> adroitMachine: right, so you mount sda6 to /mnt/src   and sda8 to /mnt/dest    and then:   rsync -a /mnt/src/ /mnt/dest/      (again, note the trailing slashes)
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> StephanieT: welcome to ubuntu support, how can we help you?
[14:59] <adroitMachine> blackflow: I mounted both the partitions, but i'm still getting the same error: "cp: failed to access '/dev/sda8/*' : Not a directory"
[14:59] <blackflow> adroitMachine: btw is that OS root you're copying?
[15:00] <blackflow> adroitMachine: why are you running that? I never told you to do that.
[15:00] <adroitMachine> blackflow: oh, I missed the rsync part, i will do itagain
[15:00] <adroitMachine> blackflow: I'm trying to migrate kubuntu to a bigger partition, i'm referring to this resource: https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/copy-your-linux-install-different-partition-or-drive
[15:02] <blackflow> adroitMachine: right. I asked because then don't forget to adjust /etc/fstab and any other config pertaining to the filesystem you're moving.
[15:02] <linux8659> pragmaticenigma thanks ,but it s not in the ub repo ,and it looks like it comes from the windows world (ultracopier) ,plus the page is old (14.04)
[15:02] <blackflow> fstab, crypttab, dunno what else you've got there. and grub will have to be updated too
[15:02] <Voziv> If I run "snap run slack" from my command line I also get "snap-confine has elevated permissions and is not confined but should be. Refusing to continue to avoid permission escalation attacks"
[15:03] <adroitMachine> blackflow: do I need to use sudo for the rsync command? because I can see in the terminal that there are some errors like: failed Permission denied
[15:03] <blackflow> adroitMachine: yes. and for the mkdir previously, for the mountpoints in /mnt/
[15:04] <pragmaticenigma> linux8659: It appears someone has been maintaining the answer (edit in 2017) thought it might help point you in the right direction
[15:04] <adroitMachine> blackflow: I didnt use sudo  for mkdir, but I can see that a folder is created already
[15:05] <adroitMachine> blackflow: I'm stopping the rsync command. Gonna do it over again with sudo mkdir
[15:05] <linux8659> pragmaticenigma  thanks
[15:05] <blackflow> adroitMachine: what exactly did you type? because  /mnt/src   and   /mnt/dest   should not exist by default
[15:06] <blackflow> adroitMachine: I did warn you not to do this without  understanding what you're doing. if you lose your data, that's entirely on YOU.
[15:07] <adroitMachine> blackflow: I did sudo mkdir, but it was so far up the terminal that I thought I didn't sudo it. My bad. But the problem is that when I do sudo rsync -a /mnt/src /mnt/dest, the konsole just hangs without any output
[15:07] <add1ctus> Heya. When I use my wireless (bluetooth) headphones on Ubuntu 18.04 I'm having lower volume compared to Windows 10 on the same machine. Over-amplification ruins sound quality and alsamixer has everything on max volume. Any ideas how to fix it?
[15:08] <blackflow> adroitMachine: of course, it's copying data.   add -v to see the paths as they're copied
[15:08] <blackflow> adroitMachine: and I really hope you typo'd here in irc, as I told you several times to be careful about trailing slashes.
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> add1ctus: a few ideas: try a pulseaudio restart, test also with pavucontrol or doublecheck your settings with !sound
[15:11] <adroitMachine> blackflow: yes it is copying all the files in src folder and not on the partition itself, what would I do once the copying is finished/
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> Voziv: have you tryed contacting the slack maintainer yet?
[15:12] <blackflow> adroitMachine: the partition is mounted to the src folder isn't it?
[15:12] <add1ctus> !sound
[15:13] <adroitMachine> blackflow: there's two folder in the target partition: dest and src. The file are being copied onto src
[15:13] <blackflow> adroitMachine: that's not..... "target partition". do you mean in /mnt/  ?
[15:13] <Voziv> lotuspsychje: Nope, but this also happens with phpstorm, spotify, and htop snaps as well
[15:15] <adroitMachine> blackflow: I'm a little confused here. I can't show you because the irc is opened on a different computer. What I mean is I thought the files would be copied onto the new partition itself not  in some folder created on the new partition
[15:15] <blackflow> adroitMachine: then you didn't listen what I was telling you to do. especially, you didn't understand what the commands do. I warned you several times.
[15:16] <blackflow> adroitMachine: so from the beginning:  you want copy files from sda6 to sda8, correct?
[15:16] <adroitMachine> blackflow: Yes, correct
[15:16] <blackflow> adroitMachine: then you mount sda6 to /mnt/src   and sda8 to /mnt/dest. you first need to mkdir those dirs in /mnt/
[15:16] <adroitMachine> blackflow: yes I did sudo mkdir in /mnt
[15:16] <blackflow> adroitMachine: after you mount them you run rsync like this:    rsync -va /mnt/src/ /mnt/dest/      ok? mind the trailing slashes after src/  so:   /mnt/src/   and not   /mnt/src
[15:17] <blackflow> adroitMachine: if you did those three things (mkdir + mount + rsync) then you should be copying files from sda6 to sda8
[15:18] <adroitMachine> blackflow: just a sec
[15:19] <adroitMachine> blackflow: I will do it over again, first let me format the partition again. Sorry for the misunderstanding
[15:20] <blackflow> adroitMachine: you'll have to unmount it first.    umount /dev/sda8       or by mounted path:    umount /mnt/dest/
[15:20] <adroitMachine> ok blackflow
[15:21] <tkelly> I recently found that neither 18.04 or the 18.10 nightly can boot on the new Intel NUC8i7HNK. Where is the right place to report that as a "bug?" I noticed that Arch 2018.08.01 which happens to be using kernel 4.17.11 can boot it.
[15:21] <adroitMachine> blackflow: there is an error: umount: mnt: target is busy
[15:21] <blackflow> tkelly: any errors visible during booting? I'm tempted to say file against the kernel, but that needn't be the case
[15:22] <blackflow> adroitMachine: do you have any open files there? is your shell currently cd'd into that path?
[15:22] <mustmodify> Continuing with my production issue affecting 200+ users... my buffer is 5GB, total memory is 7.5GB.
[15:22] <tkelly> It gets to the very first menu (GRUB?) and then goes blank no matter what you select, which is why I suspect the kernel. early_printk gave nothing
[15:22] <mustmodify> First, is there an easy way to clear that out?
[15:22] <adroitMachine> blackflow: no, nothing is open, I even closed the dolphin. Just the terminal is open
[15:23] <mustmodify> Second, how do I triage that? I feel like our software must have introduced a memory leak, but I wouldn't expect that to increase the OS buffer... but I don't really know enough about that to speak intelligently about it.
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> mustmodify: if you want your issue sorted, please add all the details in one line to channel
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> !details | mustmodify
[15:23] <blackflow> adroitMachine: does `lsof /mnt/dest`  show any output?
[15:24] <blackflow> tkelly: tried booting with no "splash" and "quiet"  keywords in kernel command line?
[15:24] <adroitMachine> blackflow: Yes, there's a warnign: cant stat() tracefs file system /sys/kernel/debug/tracing output information may be incomplete
[15:25] <mustmodify> details... well, here's a screen shot of top. https://media.trillian.im/media/?m=aW1hZ2UvcG5nLDE0MjksNDc4LO%2BkFcLMANYGXr58NZkSd59j6d85RT1lrbz8P1ofTgCu
[15:25] <blackflow> adroitMachine: I think rebooting to the live env would be faster than trying to debug what's up with that :)
[15:25] <mustmodify> I'm on 16.04.3
[15:25] <adroitMachine> ok blackflow
[15:25] <blackflow> adroitMachine: I'm assuming you're doing this from the kubuntu live iso?
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> mustmodify: update your system to latest please
[15:26] <tkelly> blackflow: Honestly, I've been playing around with Debian too (same issue) and I don't remember what I've tried on Debian vs Ubuntu. I'll try with no splash and quiet on Ubuntu before filing a bug against the kernel.
[15:26] <jje> tkelly: i have a NUC8i7HNK and got 18.04 to boot by initially using nomodeset in kernel command line.
[15:26] <adroitMachine> yes, blackflow . One more thing, which one is right: sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/src or sudo mount /dev/sda6/ mnt/src/
[15:26] <blackflow> mustmodify: also, what's the actual problem? that's just a screenie of top....
[15:27] <blackflow> adroitMachine: /mnt has to start with the slash as that's the full system path
[15:27] <tkelly> jje: Awesome! I'll try that.
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> mustmodify: ubuntu 16.04.5 is out..
[15:27] <blackflow> adroitMachine: no starting slash means it's relative to whatever directory you're currently in.
[15:27] <adroitMachine> blackflow: what about the trailing slash in /mnt/src/?
[15:28] <GreenDimond> So I just booted up this morning and for whatever reason, Display 0 (My first monitor) is stuck at 640x480 resolution and there is no larger display options.
[15:28] <blackflow> adroitMachine: the trailing slash (at the end of /mnt/src/)  is about rsync, it tells the rsync to copy files from _under_ that dir, otherwise it'll copy that dir over so you'd have /mnt/dest/src/....  as the result.
[15:28] <adroitMachine> blackflow: because in the rsync command trailing slash are important, I was just wondering about the traling slash in mnt command
[15:28] <blackflow> adroitMachine: more about rsync and paths is available in the rsync manpage:  `man rsync`
[15:29] <blackflow> adroitMachine: in mount the trailing slash makes no difference
[15:29] <adroitMachine> ok thanks blackflow. Can I boot into the original kubuntu and copy the directory from there? would that be easy?
[15:29] <mustmodify> the problem is that we're seeing "out of memory" which results in killing puma, our web server. I had assumed our software had a memory leak. But in the screen shot above, you can see that of 7.x GB of ram, a majority of it is in the buffer. I don't know enough about the buffer to even say whether that could be a memory leak or some kind of OS issue. 4.4.0-1057-aws
[15:30] <blackflow> adroitMachine: not really as the OS root has stuff mounted on itself (like /dev, /sys, /proc) so you'd have to do it differently. plus, live OS has stuff changing so it wouldn't be an atomic copy, possibly even some files corrupt
[15:31] <blackflow> adroitMachine: the live env approach is the correct one. an alternative to rsync is using dd with block devices, but then you'd have to resize the partition, check uuid conflicts etc...
[15:31] <adroitMachine> ok blackflow . Thanks for the info. I'm doing the copy all over again, starting with formating the sda8
[15:32] <blackflow> mustmodify: is that a modified aws kernel? is that even ubuntu?
[15:32] <blackflow> mustmodify: anyway looking at top might not be sufficient. you could have transient memory spikes never registered in top, that invoke the oom killer
[15:33] <mustmodify> Can you help me to understand a bit more about that?
[15:33] <Voziv> lotuspsychje: Just as an update, it seems apparmor was disabled on my machine, enabling that seems to have fixed it
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> Voziv: ah nice, tnx for feedback!
[15:34] <Voziv> I must have messed with it at some point, no clue
[15:34] <blackflow> mustmodify: not sure what you need to understand more. top has refresh passes. a memory spike can be quick and can occur between two top passes.
[15:35] <blackflow> mustmodify: personally, I'd limit services so that cumulatively their limits don't pass over available RAM. or else you're overselling and that's bad
[15:36] <mustmodify> blackflow: what increases the buffer size? Is that something the app can do? Or is that an OS function?
[15:37] <blackflow> mustmodify: what buffer?
[15:37] <mustmodify> Is it more likely to do with number of open files, or the heap, or ... just ... how do things get into what's being measured there?
[15:39] <mustmodify> I ask because this number, buff/cache, is large and hasn't been in the past. At the same time, I'm seeing memory issues, So that seems like something I should drill into.
[15:40] <blackflow> mustmodify: no swap, rihgt? maybe you should add some
[15:40] <mustmodify> Typically I would ask Google and read a lot. But right now I'm facing an issue in production where every  hour or so, the server dies. So time is not really on my side. :(
[15:41] <blackflow> mustmodify: okay so then limit RSS per service via their systemd unit files
[15:41] <blackflow> mustmodify: then a process that tries to allocate more will fail, and will probably error out or segfault and that's how you'll know what's eating more than it should. at least it won't bring down your entire machine, esp. if you instruct systemd to restart failed services.
[15:42] <mustmodify> OK! I don't know what that means but it sounds like something I can act on. And `df` shows no swap file, which ... is odd.
[15:42] <mustmodify> so I can look into both of those. Thank you VERY much!
[15:42] <blackflow> mustmodify: why do you run a server if you don't understand what that means......
[15:42] <mustmodify> I'm a dev.
[15:42] <blackflow> where's the sysop?
[15:43] <blackflow> I mean it's one thing if your personal computing has these issues but then you don't have the urgency of "halp! 200+ users are affected".
[15:43] <mustmodify> In the past I have been able to kind of wing it. As this app grows, it seems like I might need someone with more expertise.
[15:43] <blackflow> if these states appear and shouldn't be, you need a trained sysop.
[15:43] <mustmodify> Agree.
[15:43] <mustmodify> I agree.
[15:44] <blackflow> okay so meanwhile, add the RSS limits to services (start with that memory hog of a ruby app) and see which one fails. make sure the limits cumulatively don't go beyond system RAM
[15:44] <blackflow> mustmodify: also add swap.
[15:45] <metrum> Hi guys! I just updated my distro from 16.04 LTS to 18.04. It's dual-booted beside Win 10, and anytime I want to open one of the Window's drives, it requires password. In 16.04 LTS I didn't have to type my pwd. Can I turn it off?
[15:45] <adroitMachine> blackflow: I did like rsync the way you told me but it is still copying all the files under the src directory. Do I need to "mv" all files after the copying is finished?
[15:45] <blackflow> adroitMachine: what do you mean "copy all the files under the src directory"?
[15:46] <blackflow> adroitMachine: pastebin exact commands you're using and first few lines of that `rsync -va ...` command
[15:46] <adroitMachine> in the target partition(the partition where i want all the files from destination) there's a folder called "src" and all the files are being  copied into it
[15:46] <blackflow> first few lines of its output
[15:46] <theseb> help! i didn't properly shutdown and now ubuntu VM won't start
[15:46] <theseb> what should i do
[15:46] <adroitMachine> blackflow: I can't unfortunately, I'm on a differnt computer but i can give you the commadn i typed in the console. Just a sec
[15:47] <blackflow> adroitMachine: is there network? you can use wgetpaste or pipe outputs to    | nc termbin.com 9999     then paste here the URL you get
[15:47] <adroitMachine> blackflow: sudo rsync -va /mnt/src/ /mnt/dest/
[15:47] <blackflow> or pastebinit.... I don't know which one is preferred nowadays, wgetpaste or pastebinit
[15:47] <adroitMachine> I did this^
[15:47] <blackflow> adroitMachine: okay, so that's copying files from src/ to dest/   isn't that what you wanted?
[15:48] <adroitMachine> I'm going to try to paste bin, blackflow
[15:48] <adroitMachine> blackflow: no I wanted to copy all the files from /dev/sda6 to /dev/sda8
[15:48] <blackflow> adroitMachine: but did you mount sda6 to src and   sda8 to dest?
[15:49] <adroitMachine> yes, I did, blackflow. That's wht I'm trying to tell you. The copying is being done in src folder which is located in /dev/sda8
[15:49] <blackflow> adroitMachine: then you ARE copying from sda6 to sda8 .... you're copying files from their respective filesystems. that's exactly what you want.
[15:50] <blackflow> adroitMachine: what do you mean "src folder is located in /dev/sda8" ?? if you did what you say you did, then this doesn't make any sense.
[15:50] <blackflow> mkdir + mount + rsync.  sda6 to src,  sda8 to dest. rsync FROM src/ TO dest/. that's it.
[15:50] <adroitMachine> ok blackflow just a sec. I will try to explain the whole thing
[15:52] <adroitMachine> blackflow, when i open /dev/sda8 partition in file manager, there are two folders: lost+found and src. The files are being copied in src folder. What I want is to copy all the files in the main partition itself not under any folder
[15:54] <blackflow> adroitMachine: if you ran     rsync -va /mnt/src/ /mnt/dest/     _exactly_ as typed here (previously mounting sda6 to /mnt/src  and sda8 to /mnt/dst),   then that's not possible. I think you missed the trailing slash on src/
[15:54] <Carbonme> Hello and Good day, I recovering from an infection on of my Linux system , any other precautions besides scanning with clam-av before I recover my files.
[15:54] <mustmodify> blackflow: Do I still want a swap drive if I'm using SSD?
[15:54] <adroitMachine> blackflow: ok the internet is working in the laptop. What command do you want me to pastebin?
[15:54] <blackflow> mustmodify: yeah, why no. the old myths of ssd and swap should be buried unless you have years old SSD with no modern wear leveling tech. SSDs these days go well into hundreds of TB written
[15:55] <blackflow> *why not
[15:55] <mustmodify> ok, just wanted to verify.
[15:55] <blackflow> mustmodify: https://techreport.com/review/27909/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-theyre-all-dead   and that's 3 years old by now.
[15:55] <leftyfb> Carbonme: define infection
[15:55] <mustmodify> But swap space is typically for for drastic overflow situations, right? That's in my head, though I can't remember any details.
[15:56] <mustmodify> Obviously I'm having drastic memory problems, so...
[15:56] <blackflow> mustmodify: "drastic overflow" is exactly what you have here, from what I gather :)
[15:56] <mustmodify> right
[15:56] <blackflow> that is, "stuff that should happen before OOM kicks in"
[15:56] <AdroitMachine_> blackflow: I'm on the irc network. Are there any commands you want me to paste? so that I can show you what I mean
[15:56] <mustmodify> but am I correct in thinking that in an optimal situation, a swapfile would be almost unused?
[15:57] <blackflow> mustmodify: PLUS, having swap to page out unused RAM even without memory pressure is a good thing. ruby can benefit from that a lot as it tends to load a gazillion of dependencies that just sit in the RAM unused, so they get paged out
[15:57] <blackflow> mustmodify: no. there's always some pages that are unused and that the kernel evicts to swap
[15:57] <blackflow> _always_
[15:57] <mustmodify> ok
[15:57] <GreenDimond> What is the latest Nvidia driver for ubuntu?
[15:57] <blackflow> AdroitMachine_: yes, the rsync command and first (say) 10 lines of its output.
[16:02] <Carbonme> CD drive keeps opening when I come near it, also the window machine I was using with dual boot also got an infection via email earlier, so I assume it somewhat spread, I just want to get back my ebooks, music, and databases
[16:02] <AdroitMachine_> blackflow: sorry for the delay. The output was too far up. Yes, I did miss a slash after src. Can I do rm -rf in the partition and start over again?
[16:03] <blackflow> AdroitMachine_: yes.  `ls -la /mnt/dest`   will verify there's nothing there after you rm -rf. please be careful, don't use * but name the two dirs specifically for rm. and hit enter after you've double-checked it's correct.
[16:04] <leftyfb> Carbonme: your linux desktop was not infected from Windows
[16:04] <AdroitMachine_> blackflow: but I did *. Should I stop the rsync command?
[16:04] <leftyfb> Carbonme: I'm going to guess it wasn't infected at all. But either way, reinstall from scratch and restore from backups
[16:04] <superman1> I just upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04 and I was seeing lightdm fail to load and purple screen hang. I went to ctrl+alt+f2 and did a reinstall of lightdm. After reboot I am stuck at login-loop and no network. I only see loopback interface in the ifconfig. ifconfig -a shows all the interfaces. Any suggestions?
[16:04] <blackflow> AdroitMachine_: nah. * is okay, that was just precaution from my end since you seem to lack experience and stuff can happen, esp. with rm -rf
[16:05] <superman1> I upgraded using do-release-upgrade
[16:06] <ioria> superman1, so gdm3 should be in use
[16:06] <AdroitMachine_> ok blackflow I'm relieved. I was kinda worried that * would do harm
[16:07] <superman1> ioria: i see what did I do wrong. Installing lightdm?
[16:07] <blackflow> AdroitMachine_: nah, it's just that * is expanded by shell to mean "all files and dirs" under the part leading up to it, and that can be very destructive if you're not careful.
[16:07] <ioria> superman1, lightdm is default for 16.04, probably already installed
[16:07] <Carbonme> Thanks, then I should be fine, I will just scan the flies I need to take from system If there anything
[16:08] <blackflow> AdroitMachine_: for example thinking you're in one dir while you're in another and do rm-rf *
[16:08] <mustmodify> blackflow: I have a swapfile set up. It isn't being used yet. Would you suggest something like this to purge the buffers, to encourage swapfile use if needed? `free && sync && echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches && free`
[16:08] <AdroitMachine_> blackflow: ok
[16:08] <superman1> I see. Any suggestions?
[16:08] <blackflow> mustmodify: no need, the kernel will use it as needed
[16:08] <mustmodify> ok
[16:08] <nacc> mustmodify: why do you *want* to use swap?
[16:09] <ioria> superman1, start with  nomodeset  parameter
[16:09] <blackflow> also dropping caches is useless sa well, kernel already treats them as volatile RAM, discardable and to be used elsewhere on demand
[16:09] <blackflow> nacc: nasty OOMs on a prod server, hunting for the cause, this is just a temporary relief with swap, see backlog
[16:10] <AdroitMachine_> blackflow: I need to ask you one thing more. When I'm trying to open some directories which are already copied, there's a lock icon on the folder and when I try to enter in it it says" could not enter, permission denied"
[16:10] <blackflow> (so let's not confuse them with contradicting info on whether swap is needed or not ;) )
[16:11] <nacc> blackflow: i meant to force use of swap, in this case, sorry
[16:11] <blackflow> AdroitMachine_: right, not all files and dirs are immediately readable to the user you're logged in as (even in live env, you're not root)
[16:11] <AdroitMachine_> ok blackflow.
[16:11] <blackflow> nacc: ah. well that. forcing the paging out of stuff that's not immediately needed.  I mean, one way would be to ramp up swappiness, I suppose.
[16:12] <nacc> blackflow: right, that seems the easier way
[16:12] <blackflow> well echoing 3 to drop_caches is not about swap tho', it's about dropping fs caches, it won't actually free any RAM for apps to use, as that memory is already discardable
[16:22] <obinoob> Hi, I've added desktop gui to server 14.04 vm so i can manage a bunch of things etc, and I can't login as root even after: sudo passwd root and sudo passwd -u root
[16:24] <strive> obinoob: I hear you shouldn't log into a desktop environment as root; create a 'obinoob' user and add 'obinoob' to sudoers.
[16:25] <obinoob> strive I've done that but can't login also
[16:25] <strive> obinoob: Have you done: 'passwd obinoob'
[16:26] <elenah11>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[16:27] <obinoob> strive: done ;)
[16:27] <strive> obinoob: Working?
[16:28] <obinoob> strive: actually I've done that but I've deleted the user and added with: adduser newuser and used visudo
[16:28] <strive> ...so it works now?
[16:29] <strive> obinoob: Are you in?
[16:30] <obinoob> strive: yep ;)
[16:30] <strive> obinoob: Phew! Good stuff.
[16:31] <strive> obinoob: I put myself through torture sometimes. "Why isn't this working! Oh, I forgot this simple thing..."
[16:32] <jjbuggle> hey all, I'm having trouble with my trackpad: when I try to 2 finger scroll, the mouse will jump all over the place
[16:32] <jjbuggle> I'm running xubuntu
[16:33] <strive> jjbuggle: It seems that your settings aren't correctly set? It's probably jumping because you need to set the two finger scroll.
[16:34] <strive> jjbuggle: synclient -l
[16:34] <jjbuggle> strive: ok, ill take a look, thanks
[16:35] <jjbuggle> strive: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bhqw7SSPFk/
[16:36] <strive> jjbuggle: Hmm...VertTwoFingerScroll = 1
[16:36] <strive> jjbuggle: That's good.
[16:37] <strive> jjbuggle: I'm thinking it may have to do with one of the 'TapButton' parameters.
[16:37] <jjbuggle> strive: I am able to 2 finger scroll in general.  It just jumps around a lot.  At first I thought it was an issue with sensitivity, but changing the sennsitivity settings don't seem to make a difference.  So the 2 finger scroll itself is workinng
[16:37] <jjbuggle> yeah?
[16:42] <strive> jjbuggle: It could be the FingerLow parameter.
[16:43] <strive> jjbuggle: Gotta run.
[16:43] <jjbuggle> strive: ok, thanks
[16:49] <superman1> so strangely after the do-release-upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04.01 I found that gdm3 was not installed.
[16:50] <vlkwgn> accelerate
[16:51] <roadclear> test
[16:52] <spacepluk> hi, is there any tool that can generate a list of dependencies from a binary?
[16:53] <obinoob> I'm running qemu/kvm and virt manager to run a windows xp under ubuntu but sadly while installing the windows it pops out a "Insert Disk" Please insert Compact Disc labeled "Windows XP" ...
[16:53] <obinoob> message
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> superman1: did you not get the upgrade window?
[16:54] <tomreyn> spacepluk: there's ldd. and there's this other utility which you should really be using since it doesnt execute code, which i forgot the name of.
[16:55] <superman1> lotuspsychje: It said everything is upgraded. Post the reboot it was stuck at purple screen. When Logged in using alt+f2 I check what was installed and found gdm3 was not.
[16:56] <tomreyn> spacepluk: readelf -d executable | grep NEEDED
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> superman1: can you logout, and see at the gear icon wich ubuntu sessions available and wich you are in now? unity/xorg/wayland?
[16:58] <tomreyn> obinoob: that's a bummer, but anot an #ubuntu topic.
[16:58] <obinoob> tomreyn: what you mean?
[16:58] <superman1> lotuspsychje: I am logged into console. the screen where you login does not load. thats the purple screen hang.
[16:59] <tomreyn> obinoob: that you seenm to seek help with (or are commenting about) a windows issue in the wrong irc channel.
[16:59] <obinoob> tomreyn: this is a linux ubuntu and so on but if you prefer I can ask my wife
[16:59] <spacepluk> tomreyn: thanks!
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> superman1: wich was your previous ubuntu flavor please?
[17:00] <obinoob> yah thanks
[17:00] <superman1> 16.04
[17:00] <superman1> lotuspsychje: ^^^^
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> superman1: gnome, kde,mate,budgie?
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> unity?
[17:01] <superman1> lotuspsychje: unity,lightdm
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> superman1: ok try to install gdm3 manually perhaps
[17:01] <superman1> lotuspsychje: did that and rebooted. Now the networking is gone.
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> superman1: can you check if ubuntu-desktop is installed? apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop
[17:04] <superman1> it says installed: none candidate 1.417
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> superman1: ok try: sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop gdm3
[17:09] <craigbass76> Is there a way to decrypt .ssh/known_hosts so I can read it easily? I'm logging into a bunch of temporary servers, and I want to clean house every so often, but I can't read the file.
[17:09] <craigbass76> And I don't want to wipe out servers that I log into regularly
[17:11] <tomreyn> craigbass76: it's hashed, can't be reverted. what you can do is reove entries with ssh-keygen -R given that you provide the destination you used to connect. the other, and probably wiser, option is to not use hashing when connecting to temporary servers.
[17:11] <Barabacha> how can I move a window to a second workspace? dragging it doesn't seem to work
[17:14] <tomreyn> Barabacha: i'm not sure but try alt + cursor keys
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> Barabacha: works here, just tryed with terminal grab and slide to desktop2
[17:16] <craigbass76> tomreyn, I don't see what you mean. One of my entries (looks lik ethe rest of them, with different characters) goes: |1|50ZYQf06Vskrx0/aJabEz9TY7iI=|7ZcnV1VIibmSU8RQg2JMhgOZy8o= ecdsa-sha2-nistp256 AAAAE2VjZHNhLXNoYTItbmlzdHAyNTYAAAAIbmlzdHAyNTYAAABBBFE+SyA2lQU/aTT5yn3FC+45njex9sQij2Tn2I20++vrQJzMQ6QjFBcdYE2ep0oqXMDQF5pP2ghadUuwjq/8Ets=
[17:17] <craigbass76> That's a temporary server, but another box right in my house is one of the earlier entries, and looks like that too.
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> Barabacha: so activites/hover over desktop1/grab terminal/slide and let go desktop2
[17:17] <tomreyn> craigbass76: do you want / need to hash the ssh keys of temporary servers?
[17:18] <craigbass76> No. I don't see where I'm prompted for or against though
[17:20] <tomreyn> craigbass76: you are not, but you can configure SSH not to hash the keys for some servers, such as based on the server name you type when connecting with ssh.
[17:21] <craigbass76> tomreyn, HashKnownHosts in ssh_config ?
[17:22] <Barabacha> lotuspsychje: dragging and dropping doesn't work
[17:22] <tomreyn> craigbass76: yes, if you combine this with an ssh profile (using 'Host', which can accept wildcards), you can disable ssh host key fingerprint hashing for all matching hosts
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> Barabacha: works here with me, you are on 18.04.1 ubuntu-desktop right?
[17:24] <craigbass76> Barabacha, lotuspsychje not sure if it applies, because I'm using Cinnamon, but I just grab the window, run my keyboard shortcut for switching desktops (mine is Ctrl Alt and R or L arrow), and the window comes with me.
[17:31] <adroitMachine> I am trying to migrate ubuntu to a bigger partition, I have already copied all the files to the new partition. Next, I need to update UUID, how do I do that?
[17:34] <superman1> lotuspsychje: since there was no network I had restore from snapshot and redo this. Same symptom still after reboot.
[18:00] <tim42> Hi all, my laptop makes a loud crackling sound when performing a shutdown. All relevant tips I can find seem outdated or pointing to files that don't exist on my Ubuntu 18 installation (such as /usr/lib/pm-utils/power.d/intel-audio-powersave). Someone here has had this problem too / knows how to fix it? Thanks :)
[18:03] <birdfaceman> anyone here?
[18:03] <JimBuntu> yes birdfaceman
[18:04] <adroitMachine> how do I update the UUID after migrating the kubuntu partition to a new one?
[18:06] <birdfaceman> would you know how long a 160G external drive takes to format from inside of a live session usb key on a 200x era computer?  I've waited an hour the I can't even switch to one of the terminals to read dmesg
[18:10] <birdfaceman> rough estimate?  means of checking progress? any thoughts?
[18:11] <JimBuntu> birdfaceman, what utility are you using to format it? Can you ssh into it?
[18:12] <birdfaceman> the default installer, though, I did run it through gparted, which took a couple of minutes but vastly mistated the size
[18:15] <birdfaceman> oddly enough, adroitMachine, what utility are you using?  That's a right-click option in gparted
[18:19] <ppf> adroitMachine: edit /etc/fstab
[18:22] <adroitMachine> birdfaceman: I have restarted the laptop when I saw that all uuids were unique, but now when I booted into the new install other partitions are not showing
[18:24] <birdfaceman> following ppf, I'd recommend checking if the new system's fstab knows of the other partitions
[18:26] <adroitMachine> ok
[18:27] <birdfaceman> So, I'm going with a bad thing happened and am going to fix my stuff; good luck adroitMachine
[18:27] <adroitMachine> thanks birdfaceman
[18:28] <ppf> birdfaceman: regular format should take seconds
[18:28] <ppf> a deep format that actually overwrites the disks can take really long
[18:28] <ppf> esp. external
[18:37] <d33tah> hi!
[18:37] <d33tah> anyone here intimately familiar with dkms?
[18:38] <ppf> define intimate
[18:38] <d33tah> dkms --all autoinstall --verbose  2>&1 | tr -d '\n' gives me:
[18:38] <d33tah> Error! Your kernel headers for kernel  cannot be found. Please install the linux-headers- package, or use the --kernelsourcedir option to tell DKMS where it's located
[18:38] <d33tah> I was trying to install 4.18
[18:39] <leftyfb> version 4.18 of what?
[18:39] <d33tah> kernel
[18:39] <d33tah> got the following packages installed: linux-headers-4.18.0-041800 linux-headers-4.18.0-041800-generic linux-image-unsigned-4.18.0-041800-generic linux-modules-4.18.0-041800-generic
[18:39] <d33tah> pulled from here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.18/
[18:39] <leftyfb> that was released last week? Why do you think you need that kernel?
[18:40] <d33tah> leftyfb: my steam controller support broke and I wanted to see if the latest driver helps
[18:40] <oerheks> apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) ... but the 4.18 from miainline is for testing only, no support
[18:40] <d33tah> oerheks: I think I already have headers and headers-generic installed
[18:40] <d33tah> what's weird about this error is the double spaces
[18:41] <d33tah> it looks as if the kernel version was not detected?
[18:41] <d33tah> I added --debug but it's painful to read
[18:41] <leftyfb> d33tah: kernels from mainly are not supported here
[18:41] <leftyfb> mainline*
[18:41] <d33tah> any place I could go for help?
[18:42] <leftyfb> d33tah: you could try ##linux maybe
[18:42] <d33tah> leftyfb: sounds too general, i suspect a problem with either the build or dkms
[18:44] <leftyfb> yeah, why would anyone think that ##linux would be a good place to get support with the linux kernel and it's drivers?
[18:44] <skinux> I need some help figuring out which video drivers I need and how to make sure I have good ones.
[18:44] <leftyfb> skinux: lspci|grep -i vga
[18:45] <skinux> Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon R4/R5 Graphics] (rev 45)
[18:45] <skinux> SO, which video driver package do I need?
[18:46] <oerheks> Ati R4 is the old 5450, that uses the openradeon driver
[18:47] <skinux> Hmm. repo doesn't have anything for openradeon
[18:47] <oerheks> it should already be loaded ...
[18:47] <skinux> Oh. Well then I guess that isn't my problem.
[18:47] <oerheks> driver in use >> lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[18:48] <oerheks> i have one too, works fine. 2 screens, dual youtube possible
[18:48] <skinux> in use is 'radeon'
[18:49] <birdfaceman> how goes progress adroitMachine
[18:50] <adroitMachine> edited the fstab file with the reference of old fstab, changed the uuid by sudo blkid. copy/pasted it. birdfaceman
[18:52] <birdfaceman> excellent; you're doing better than me
[18:52] <Oguz> Bu uygulamanın amacı ne ?
[18:53] <oerheks> !tr
[18:53] <adroitMachine> birdfaceman: that's not true, birdfaceman I have been at it for the last 4 hours
[18:55] <birdfaceman> I have a hard drive trying to take that long, but install mode, I can get to a terminal, but dmesg is not hwlping.  What's your current problem adroitMachine?
[18:56] <adroitMachine> birdfaceman: I was trying to migrate ubuntu from one partition to other, but after I did that, I didn't know how to update the uuids in fstab. So I copied the old fstab to the destination. Now I'm booting my laptop hoping that the other drives would show up there
[18:59] <birdfaceman> did you try gparted's interface, adroitMachine?  The only time it doesn't work for me is if I select a partition and try the "open with" option
[19:00] <JadedJ> Hi
[19:01] <JadedJ> Is there someone out there that is willing to help me install the HoneyD application from source code?
[19:04] <bipul> !in
[19:04] <birdfaceman> it seems rare to get help here, appopriatly named JadedJ.  Check this out...
[19:05] <bipul> !uk
[19:05] <oerheks> JadedJ, why? 1.5 is in our bionic 18.04 repos
[19:05] <birdfaceman> Anyone know where the ubuntu installer kepps its messages from/during a formatting
[19:05] <oerheks> !info honeyd
[19:05] <bipul> !help
[19:06] <ioria> oerheks, i think it'sa dead project
[19:06] <bipul> !patience
[19:06] <oerheks> oops, only precise..
[19:06] <oerheks> ioria, yeah, just noticed
[19:08] <oerheks> JadedJ, install build essentials and libevent-dev libdnet-dev libpcap-dev
[19:09] <d33tah> bipul suggested I should put link to this bug report here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/dkms/+bug/1787262
[19:09] <bruthatrucka77> Does anyone know how to achieve a completely silent boot? (black screens with splash screen, no text whatsoever)
[19:09] <oerheks> JadedJ, get that old code and the manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[19:09] <bruthatrucka77> I'm using quiet splash in grub
[19:09] <bruthatrucka77> It's not working
[19:11] <oerheks> d33tah, all you can do now is wait
[19:11] <d33tah> oerheks: understood
[19:11] <bruthatrucka77> anyone?
[19:12] <oerheks> bruthatrucka77, remove the splash, and update grub
[19:12] <oerheks> !grub
[19:12] <leftyfb> bruthatrucka77: did you run update-grub after making your change?
[19:12] <bruthatrucka77> yes
[19:18] <ioria> bruthatrucka77, a silent boot with just slpash screen is the the default behaviour ... i don't get what you want
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[19:19] <Zexaron> Hello
[19:20] <Zexaron> I'd like to go another way and directly modify the squashfs on the ubuntu ISO, which files would I need to modify to make my own custom defaults for time zone and keyboard locale
[19:23] <bolero> In this web it says that "By default, the local machines hostname is viewable to others in IRC as well as through the /whois command. "
[19:24] <bolero> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorifyHOWTO/IRC#Cloaksandvhosts
[19:24] <bolero> Can you see my hostname?
[19:25] <Fuchs> bolero: you are using Tor, thus: no
[19:25] <kepler_mach8>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[19:27] <jeremies> Fuchs: but now I'm not using tor, where is the hostname listed ?
[19:28] <jeremies> whois prints the following:
[19:28] <Fuchs> it's not listed.
[19:28] <Fuchs> and I doubt #ubuntu is the best channel to ask that, mind
[19:28] <JadedJ> oerheks: Just doing a fresh install of ubuntu
[19:28] <birdfaceman> following "failed in London" logic, does anyone here know why trying to install to an external hard drive (noapic expert mode) is spouting lots of "sdd: sdd1" messages for the past 45 minutes?
[19:30] <jeremies> Fuchs: why if I'm not using tor?
[19:30] <ioria> jeremies, i think it's about the ip not the hostname,but not an expert
[19:31] <Fuchs> jeremies: ah, now you aren't
[19:31] <Fuchs> jeremies: it's listed if you  /whois jeremies,  it's the part after the @, which is your public IP / hostname
[19:32] <Fuchs> jeremies: it won't display the hostname you set locally, since IRC doesn't care and doesn't know about that, and the manual / documenation you are reading also talks about the public, internet facing one
[19:32] <Guest59398> hi
[19:32] <nacc> birdfaceman: is that the entire message?
[19:34] <Guest59398> Can somebody help/assists me? I wanna install ubuntu withlxde interface via the ubuntu mini iso. But when it tries to configure the network connection it fails. That's normal because it's hooked up to another computer who shares the connection via ether then I get to choose configure network manually but if I choose that it doesn't let met configure it manually instead it gives me the mirror selection of ubuntu server and it
[19:34] <Guest59398> fails of course again
[19:34] <jeremies> Fuchs: so in that link hostname = public IP ?
[19:35] <Fuchs> yes, also note that a good part of that guide is not valid for freenode, we neither have +x nor do our cloaks hide IPs effectively, and still #ubuntu is most definitely the wrong channel to discuss this
[19:36] <ioria> Guest59398, use the pc ethernet  port
[19:37] <Guest59398> @ioria it'S connected via the ethernet port of the motherbard with an ethernet cable to the other computer
[19:37] <jeremies> Fuchs: thanks.
[19:37] <ioria> Guest59398, connect directly the cable to the router
[19:38] <Guest59398> @ioria the problem is the router is in another floor and there is no screen
[19:38] <grateful> xrdp isn't working for me, can someone help me reconfig it?
[19:39] <ioria> Guest59398, yuo can try your way, and let us know if it works
[19:39] <grateful> Active: active (running) since Tue 2018-08-14 18:47:45 EDT; 20h ago
[19:39] <grateful> but when i try to remmina to it, it doesn't find a connecton
[19:39] <Guest59398> my problem is in the installer if I nually it doesn'T let me configure it manually it only gets back to the choice of the ubuntu mirror
[19:40] <birdfaceman> nacc yes 45 minutes of hundreds of those,  I'm trying again now
[19:40] <ioria> Guest59398, mini.iso , afaik, works only with a direct cable connection
[19:41] <Guest59398> @ioria and only via dhcp? because if I could conifgure it manually it should work
[19:41] <sim642> Why do I have /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-72-generic which keeps coming back even though I'm on -131 already and trying to do 18.04 upgrade?
[19:42] <ioria> Guest59398,  try with server, it that fails
[19:42] <sim642> I have linux-image-4.4.0-72 purged and it still is there
[19:42] <gmota_> hey guys!
[19:43] <gmota_> how can I find out which graphics driver I am currently on?
[19:44] <joaogerardo> good evening
[19:45] <joaogerardo> anyone available to give me a piece of a hands help?
[19:45] <birdfaceman> I've switched it in the options from ext4 (which I did in live image's gparted) to jfs, to see if I get anything new
[19:46] <gmota_> joaogerardo, maybe I can help
[19:46] <joaogerardo> ops, thanks /gmota_
[19:46] <joaogerardo> @gmota_
[19:47] <joaogerardo> I need to join the ubuntu-mate channel
[19:47] <gmota_> ok
[19:47] <joaogerardo> but coundn't 'cause ai haven't been registered?
[19:47] <joaogerardo> how can I get an ID?
[19:48] <joaogerardo> I just install Ubuntu-Mate on a RPi2
[19:48] <JacobTDC> How can I get a list of `GRUB_LINUX_COMMAND_LINE` options, preferably through the `info` command?
[19:48] <nacc> JacobTDC: uh, those are any kernel or initramfs options
[19:48] <nacc> JacobTDC: not stored anywhere other than the source of the kernel and the initramfs, afaik
[19:49] <xubuntu18041> <gmota_: I guessing?  lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[19:49] <gmota_> joaogerardo, normally they write the registering instroctions above
[19:49] <nacc> !register | joaogerardo
[19:49] <JacobTDC> nacc: Can you dumb that dow for me? XD
[19:49] <JacobTDC> *down
[19:49] <nacc> JacobTDC: not really? that option is for any kernel or initramfs options. It won't be available to `info`.
[19:50] <gmota_> xubuntu18041, no output
[19:50] <birdfaceman> Ok, this might be all my fault; I may have forgotten to click the format option, but I can't say for sure, but it's back to ext4 and asking for timezones
[19:50] <JadedJ> oerheks: Still there?
[19:50] <JacobTDC> nacc: Well, is there anywhere I can get a list of those options and what they do?
[19:51] <nacc> JacobTDC: in the kernel source, Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
[19:51] <joaogerardo> thank you camarades. Will try again
[19:51] <joaogerardo> :D
[19:51] <nacc> JacobTDC: as to the initramfs options, I doubt there is a list of them
[19:51] <xubuntu18041> gmota_:  lspci|grep -i vga
[19:52] <skinux> WEll, that's interesting. Cannot find mysql service, but I just checked and it's installed.
[19:52] <huberp> Hey guys. I have a little trouble with my Video output. The Ubuntu PC is hooked up to an Denon Receiver. And for some reason it defaults to 1920x1080p59.93Hz and the TV seems to not support that. So to change that, I have to logon via ssh and do xrandr magic to put it on 60 Hz. Is there a way to keep it that way?
[19:53] <gmota_> xubuntu18041, yeah, that gives me the card, but not the driver
[19:53] <JacobTDC> nacc: Okay, so, is there anywhere ON SYSTEM I can find that file? :I
[19:53] <nacc> JacobTDC: no, unless you have the kernel source installed.
[19:53] <JacobTDC> Oh.
[19:53] <nacc> JacobTDC: what are you looking for?
[19:53] <nacc> JacobTDC: or put another way, why do you want to know the exhaustive list of kernel options supported by your kernel?
[19:53] <joaogerardo> you need to be identified with services
[19:54] <joaogerardo> what does that mean? Itś needed to be registered, right?
[19:55] <JacobTDC> nacc: I'm looking for something to force-load my SynPS/2 keyboard, 'cause sometimes the system doesn't detect/load it (although the GRUB menu loads it without fail).
[19:55] <jje> gmota_: 'lshw -c video' there should be a line for the driver in that output.
[19:56] <nacc> JacobTDC: do you have any workaround for it now?
[19:57] <JacobTDC> nacc: My only way of getting it to work is by rebooting the system (many times) until it loads it.
[19:57] <nacc> JacobTDC: 'loads' what? or do you mean by that, that it works
[19:58] <joaogerardo> JacobTDC: sounds to be IRQ configuration
[19:58] <nacc> JacobTDC: and in the case of it working/not, did you grab dmesgs and compare, etc.?
[19:58] <gmota_> jje, I would like to show you the output. Maybe you can determine the driver...
[19:59] <jje> pastebin please
[19:59] <gmota_> jje, yeah, how exactly?
[19:59] <gmota_> pipe pastebin jje?
[20:00] <jje> lshw -c video | pastebinit
[20:00] <JacobTDC> nacc: Let me start over. My laptop has an SynPS/2 keyboard (and mouse), and occasionally, when logging in, it doesn't work. It's wierd, because if I press <ESC> on boot to pull up the GRUB menu, the GRUB menu doesn't have any problems with it.
[20:00] <JacobTDC> joaogerardo: What do you mean?
[20:01] <gmota_> jje, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rzqKKSddWG/
[20:02] <UserUS> JacobTDC, are all your drivers up to date?
[20:02] <jje> gmota_: it would be on the configuration line if it was there. i would guess you are using neauvou, have you installed the nvidia driver yet?
[20:03] <JacobTDC> UserUS: I don't know how to update them, but this is a fairly new Ubuntu installation, so they should be up-to-date.
[20:04] <JacobTDC> UserUS: *should* be up to date.....
[20:04] <gmota_> jje, no, there is none available. I would need version 173, which is not compatible with this kernel
[20:04] <jje> oh dear then you are on neauvou
[20:04] <joaogerardo> the IRQs must be all enable. If the bridge of IRQs is disable maybe the communication to a new IRQ cannot be made.
[20:05] <gmota_> jje, would be happy to see if neauvou runs...
[20:05] <JacobTDC> joaogerardo: ?
[20:05] <joaogerardo> and the IRQs addresses the devices to the hardware
[20:05] <UserUS> JacobTDC, I'd start by reinstalling the driver for your SynPS/2 for ubuntu
[20:05] <jje> gmota_: its the open source driver it should be loaded already check lsmod
[20:05] <JacobTDC> UserUS: How?
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[20:06] <gmota_> jje, just via typing lsmod?
[20:06] <jje> yes it will give you a list of loaded modules
[20:08] <gmota_> jje, yeah, ok
[20:08] <jje> excellent
[20:09] <GodSkinS1>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[20:09] <JacobTDC> UserUS: How do I update drivers on a command-line installation?
[20:09] <UserUS> JacobTDC, also check xinit logs and check lsmod|grep -iE "synap". I'm looking for a driver for you, one sec
[20:09] <gmota_> jje, can't I somehow get this very old 173 driver? ^^
[20:10] <jje> gmota_: not sure wait for someone else to answer maybe?
[20:11] <gmota_> jje, yeah. the .run file from nvidia does not work as the kernel is too new... xD The message is that the kernel header is not configured correctly
[20:11] <Stormmore> anyone have a suggestion on a replacement for Keycloak that can doing OAuth identity brokering?
[20:12] <jje> gmota_: well it kind of sounds like you are out of luck then.
[20:13] <UserUS> JacobTDC, I'm still looking, but can you run this: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i synaptics and put it in pastebin or something and give a link of the output?
[20:13] <JacobTDC> UserUS: Sure. Just so you know, I'm using the Minimal installation of Ubuntu, but thankfully I have already installed xinit and xterm.
[20:15] <JacobTDC> UserUS: I haven't run xinit before, or have deleted the log... just a sec...
[20:17] <JacobTDC> UserUS: actually, it just moved the log location...
[20:18] <skinux> Got it! I had to start 'mysql' not 'mysqld'
[20:18] <JacobTDC> UserUS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Y5WDp5RXyp/
[20:19] <arooni> is there an alternative to synergy
[20:19] <JacobTDC> UserUS: I'm actually suprised xinit worked this time. It usually can't load the keyboard, and I have to restart the computer to get out of it.
[20:20] <JadedJ> Hi
[20:20] <Reiji> hi
[20:20] <JadedJ> When running ./configure on application I'm trying to compile, it gives me this error
[20:20] <UserUS> JacobTDC, yeah, it looks like the issue is that is keeps getting disconnected
[20:21] <JacobTDC> UserUS: ?
[20:21] <JacobTDC> UserUS: Physically?
[20:21] <Reiji> now the ubuntu mini iso detected the newtwork settings automatically and I can can fordward in installing ubuntu with lxde
[20:21] <JadedJ> "configure: error: dnet-config not found"
[20:21] <UserUS> JacobTDC, No, but the machine sees it that way. It's using libinput for the touchpad, recognizes it, but then the touchpad gets disconnected and it can't find it anymore
[20:23] <UserUS> JacobTDC, you can reinstall the input driver with sudo apt-get install libinput-tools xserver-xorg-input-libinput
[20:23] <JacobTDC> UserUS: That makes sense. Is there anything else I can do as well incase that doesn't solve it?
[20:24] <UserUS> JacobTDC, yeah, I found a couple articles I can send you to troubleshoot
[20:25] <UserUS> JacobTDC, to temporarily enable it you can try xinput set-prop xx "Device Enabled" 0, where xx= device id
[20:26] <UserUS> JacobTDC, https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2250916 (device being disabled) and https://gist.github.com/waltervargas/93178b2ac341a1a11d254fe97a2e798c (reinstalled and configuring driver)
[20:26] <JacobTDC> UserUS: You seem to know a lot more about this than the people who helped me a month or so ago (no offense if someone reading this is one of the people who helped... XD)
[20:29] <UserUS> JacobTDC, Dr. Google knows a hell of a lot more than me haha but I did setup an arch machine before so I'm familiar with xorg to some extent. If you head into an arch channel and ask strictly about xorg I bet you'll find your answer
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[20:29] <JacobTDC> UserUS: Just to make sure, installing those *should* fix the keyboard on a CLI-Only installation, correct?
[20:30] <JacobTDC> "those" refering to the libinput packages
[20:30] <UserUS> JacobTDC, yeah, the driver is the same regardless as far as I'm aware
[20:31] <JacobTDC> UserUS: Should I send you the a new "grep synaptics" to make sure I did it right?
[20:32] <UserUS> JacobTDC, Sure
[20:33] <JacobTDC> UserUS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3cXwSkss2t/
[20:36] <JacobTDC> UserUS: Is that how it should be?
[20:41] <tomreyn> JacobTDC: i have no idea what it should look like, but take a look at libinput(4), maybe it helps.
[20:42] <UserUS> JacobTDC, No, the device is still disconnected. can you run synclient -l and post the output? You should checkout the first link I sent, it may be the ~/.bashrc file
[20:46] <konrados> Hi. I started installing wicd (sudo apt install wicd) - because I found out it can show me details about available wifi networks, along with channels etc. Now I'm not sure, because it wants to install some deamons ... The description says "A network connection manager that aims to simplify wired and wireless networking in Linux."  - I don't want to break anything, especially that everything works :) Is this thing safe, I mean can I safely
[20:46] <konrados> install it and try it?
[20:52] <leftyfb> konrados: try iw; sudo apt install iw ; sudo iw $(basename $(ls -d /sys/class/net/wl*)) scan
[20:54] <konrados> leftyfb: ok, I will, but can you tell me one thing - should I now kill to installation process? Or can I safely continue it? It asks me about
[20:54] <konrados> "Users who should be able to run wicd clients need to be added to the group "netdev"
[20:54] <JacobTDC> UserUS: Okay.
[20:55] <konrados> I really thought it's just a bunch of utils, not some daemons. Is this safe to continue, or will it overwrite things I have now?
[20:55] <leftyfb> konrados: maybe just remove wicd
[20:56] <konrados> leftyfb: but I'm in the middle of the installation process... I just started it and it asks me this question, should I kill it? Or continue and then remove?
[20:56] <leftyfb> continue and remove
[20:56] <konrados> I'm a bit scared that it will mess my system and hence I'm not sure
[20:56] <konrados> ok, thanks leftyfb !
[20:56] <konrados> I'll be back
[20:56] <konrados> i hope
[20:59] <JacobTDC> UserUS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HrrfNhBXzd/
[21:02] <konrados> leftyfb: hah, seems I survived this, thanks again!
[21:04] <JacobTDC> UserUS: Did you get that?
[21:08] <FreeBDSM> why can't I mount an iso via `sudo mount -t iso 9660 path/to/iso /mnt/iso`? it says 'failed to setup loop device for /full/path/to/iso`
[21:08] <FreeBDSM> the dir exists, unmounted
[21:09] <UserUS> JacobTDC, I did. It says the touchpad is on, so it may be the dev it's trying to point to
[21:10] <pi0> is there a cli tool to view images
[21:11] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt/iso # make sure /mnt/iso exists
[21:11] <leftyfb> pi0: uh, you mean in the framebuffer?
[21:11] <Jordan_U> cpaelzer: A belated thank you! I'll check dmesg for Apparmor denying libvirt when I get back to that machine today or tomorrow.
[21:11] <FreeBDSM> leftyfb: I've tried without -t iso9660 as well
[21:11] <pi0> well i have a png and jpg
[21:11] <pi0> that i would like to see in the console window
[21:11] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt/iso # make sure /mnt/iso exists
[21:12] <FreeBDSM> okay, turns out mount doesn't know what ~ is
[21:12] <FreeBDSM> thanks
[21:12] <leftyfb> pi0: try: fbi
[21:12] <FreeBDSM> and yes, -t iso9660 screws things up
[21:12] <pi0> apt install fbi
[21:13] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: and you need to specify that it's a loop mount
[21:13] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: so exactly as I typed above
[21:13] <FreeBDSM> I did specify it before
[21:13] <FreeBDSM> the problem was full path vs ~/path
[21:13] <FreeBDSM> and `-t iso9660` which I took from redhat's docs
[21:14] <genii> pi0: Without X, you need to use an application like fbi which uses framebuffer, or some command-line other viewer which uses svgalibs ( like links2 cli web browser )
[21:16] <pi0> hmm not liking my font
[21:16] <pi0> i gueess
[21:16] <pi0> i am running i3
[21:16] <pi0> anything else besides fbi
[21:26] <JacobTDC> UserUS: Sorry, if you said anything since my last message, you're going to have to repeat it... :I
[21:26] <UserUS> JacobTDC, "I did. It says the touchpad is on, so it may be the dev it's trying to point to"
[21:28] <JacobTDC> UserUS: I also found that if my keyboard doesn't work at login, I can press "Fn + F8" (a key labeled "CRT/LCD") and it types "^@" on the screen. I can also press "Fn + F10" (eject disk) and it works as well.
[21:29] <JacobTDC> That's the only thing I can do, though.
[21:30] <UserUS> JacobTDC, Yeah, I saw in a post somewhere someone saying that worked. One of the links I sent had a script that basically runs enable over and over if it's disabled. But I think the root issue is gonna be in xorg
[21:31] <JacobTDC> UserUS: Well, I don't think xorg is the problem at startup, 'cause I install the Minimal/CLI-Only version of Ubuntu 18.04. If it helps, I'm using a Dell Inspiron 2650.
[21:32] <JacobTDC> *installed
[21:34] <UserUS> JacobTDC, well xorg is the controller basically for the synaptics driver. Also, double check you didn't hit the disable keyboard button in your function keys
[21:34] <prsstnt> my minecraft keeps crashing
[21:34] <JacobTDC> UserUS: I don't have a disable keyboard function key...
[21:36] <JacobTDC> prsstnt: That's probably (most likely) a Java/Minecraft issue, not an Ubuntu issue, but if you provide more details, I'm sure someone would be glad to help! :D
[21:38] <JacobTDC> UserUS: At least, I don't as far as I know of...
[21:40] <prsstnt> it works on the latest release, but throws an error with a "bad pixmap" on the release my server uses
[21:43] <JacobTDC> brb
[21:46] <WaldoHunt> I'm back.
[21:46] <WaldoHunt> Whoops...
[21:46] <WaldoHunt> XD
[21:46] <JacobTDC> Hey, I'm back now.
[21:56] <Bashing-om> JacobTDC: A thought. A BIOS option  "IOMMU Controller"? Set it to "Enabled" .
[22:15] <UFC_addict> hi
[22:18] <FreeBDSM> how to check my kernel version? `apt list --installed linux-image\*` lists 3 of them, the highest being 4.15.0.30.32, but wine crashes with a like `Host version: 4.15.0-29-generic`
[22:19] <Bashing-om> FreeBDSM: ' uname -r ' .
[22:20] <FreeBDSM> Bashing-om: says `4.15.0-29-generic`
[22:20] <FreeBDSM> how do I update?
[22:20] <lilkuz2005> hey guys whats the name of the sound applet for sound control in ubuntu 18.04 ?
[22:20] <FreeBDSM> I guess a newer version of kernel is already installed, is reboot mandatory?
[22:20] <FreeBDSM> lilkuz2005: there are multiple ones
[22:20] <FreeBDSM> lilkuz2005: pavucontrol ?
[22:21] <jcdutton> FreeBDSM, ls /boot
[22:21] <Bashing-om> FreeBDSM: " sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' is the terminal way .
[22:21] <lilkuz2005> FreeBDSM, i removed the default applet and im trying to replace it
[22:21] <jcdutton> is the new version there. It will probably get used at the next reboot
[22:23] <FreeBDSM> I tried `apt update` and it ended with a GPG error for download.opensuse.org repo, what do I do?
[22:24] <Bashing-om> FreeBDSM: pastebin the command and the output .
[22:24] <Bashing-om> !paste | FreeBDSM
[22:24] <FreeBDSM> https://paste.ee/p/K2h9b
[22:28] <jcdutton> FreeBDSM, for the opensuse pgp, just download Release.key from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/strycore/xUbuntu_18.04/  and install the key
[22:29] <jcdutton> google how to install an apt key
[22:29] <Bashing-om> FreeBDSM: Well, what is your need from opensuse.org that ubuntu does not provide ?.. and do you trust the source ?
[22:29] <FreeBDSM> why doesn't it work automatically?
[22:30] <FreeBDSM> Bashing-om: I don't know where that repo got from
[22:31] <jcdutton> FreeBDSM, the opensuse one is for "Lutris - Open Gaming Platform"
[22:31] <FreeBDSM> oh
[22:31] <FreeBDSM> right
[22:32] <pi0> hey there!
[22:32] <pi0> back :D
[22:32] <pi0> fbi does not seem to work on my end :(
[22:39] <pi0> do redirect an outpout is >
[22:39] <pi0> right
[22:39] <pi0> trying fbi screenshot.png > out
[22:39] <pi0> and nothin
[22:39] <pi0> :/
[22:41] <lilkuz2005> FreeBDSM, i found the applet i was talking about, its called indicator applet complete
[22:48] <pi0> http://ix.io/1kj3
[22:56] <naftilos76> hi, what option should i use to let a user unmount a vbox shared folder?
[22:57] <naftilos76> the vbox guest is an ubuntu 16.04
[23:12] <pi0> any suggestions on how to resolve this http://ix.io/1kj3
[23:12] <pi0> trying to see an image, using fbi, image is in png format
[23:14] <jeffree> is anyone experiencing delays for audio to begin playing?
[23:17] <c_cinap> well... Since 18.04 upgrade, the sound is better -Less pops and crap. But no more keyboard volume control....
[23:18] <jeffree> hmm, I'm running 18.04 and this is the first os I've noticed to make popping sounds sometimes when doing things
[23:18] <c_cinap> yeah, I had that in 16.04
[23:19] <c_cinap> on a fresh install, this was a do-release-upgrade
[23:25] <macgyver_> is there ubuntu 18.04 for 32bit?
[23:26] <macgyver_> I have 32bit laptop
[23:26] <Bashing-om> macgyver_: Think lubuntu still supports 32 bit .
[23:27] <Belial> anyone rocking thunderbird 60?
[23:27] <macgyver_> is lubuntu 18.04 LTS for 32 bit?
[23:27] <Bashing-om> macgyver_: Yup; see: https://lubuntu.me/downloads/ .
[23:28] <aloo_shu> 1+ lubuntu !
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[23:29] <pi0> neomutt! Belial :D
[23:43] <UnderDog_> Hello there:)
[23:44] <pi0> yo!
[23:50] <state32> simple question on freenode  I am tryo to join a channel and get this :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[23:50] <state32> what is the solution
[23:51] <leftyfb> state32: /join #freenode for help with freenode
[23:51] <state32> thanks