[09:27] I'm not addicted, I can stop anytime I want to. I just never want to :D [09:28] also "let's shame people for being human" or let's not and mind our own damn business [12:39] non-sequitur or misdir [12:56] Good morning [12:58] party [13:05] feels like it should be friday, but its only Thursday. [13:21] Heh [13:21] I'm not sure any day feels like they day it should be. [13:53] feels like four Mondays, then a Friday usually [13:56] teaching my wife what an "editor" is today...feels like a monday [13:56] Heh [13:56] which sort of editor? [13:56] "I thought that was only there for taking notes" [13:56] Oh nice [13:56] she couldn't connect to starbucks wifi and found an askubuntu post using "sudo nano /etc/hosts" [13:57] which she didn't have nano on the machine so it said command not found, though it might have been because she missed the space after nano and before the / [13:57] so I told her to replace nano with gedit, I knew it was on there [13:57] and that brought up "what is this doing, what's a 'gehdit'" [13:58] anyway, now she thinks if she goes back to windows she'll be able to fix these things herself [13:58] Woo hoo [13:58] have at it [13:58] a mac would never have the issues. :p [13:58] she went ubuntu because she was so mad at windows [13:58] :P [13:59] it would just have other issues. [13:59] all computers do [13:59] like... why is my kernel using 2.5GB of my memory? [13:59] a mac would not want to connect to the wifi without a dongle [13:59] mac used to get better with every release. now it gets worse. [14:00] it's just funny having "I should be able to fix these things myself" followed directly up by "I don't want to learn how all this works. I don't have time for that" [14:00] had to do the "what would your parents do in this situation?" [14:00] and her realize that's what folks do. Either learn or go to geeksquad once a month [14:01] It's like a confirmation for computers [14:01] Welcome to the congregation; now you get to know all of the dirt [14:02] hey, i feel like she does. shit should just work. [14:02] at least in the linux case, you haven't paid for anything [14:03] but with windows and mac, i've paid thousands over the years for shit that doesn't work quite right. its infuriating. [14:03] yea, but I mean "this wifi thing doesn't work with the google wifi system starbucks bought and installed ..." [14:04] I mean, at some point the various permutations/layers involved is untenable to always work [14:04] i literally never have problems connecting to wifi on my apple devices. [14:04] i realize that is only my experience and is annecdotal, and yet... it keeps be running this apple junk, because as bad as it is, I know its worse elsewhere. [14:05] yea, they've narrowed down a layer of the moving parts on their end by dictating the hardware set [14:05] linux/windows hasn't been able to do that [14:05] meh, I just figure stuff won't always work [14:05] so I asked her where the mifi was because that's known to work and she'd be off to the races vs looking up askubuntu stuff [14:06] lemme guess. its at home :) [14:07] :) [14:07] which is where she's back at now that she can't work from the starbucks [14:07] anyway, very monday feeling [14:08] yeah. that sucks. [14:08] with the rain to help give it that proper monday overcast [14:08] i just get so angry at macos kernel_task CPU and memory usage. its infuriating. [14:27] rick_h_: Have you been to the Starbucks to see what they're doing? [14:28] I mean, not today, but in the past? [14:28] cmaloney: yea, they want you to create an account and sign in so I just mifi now. I refuse to do the account stuff [14:28] Oh fuck that shit [14:29] what's the point of going there then if they're going to try to track you [14:29] yea, exactly [14:30] I had my "I want to be a hermit and leave tech behind" moment yesterday [14:35] only just now? [14:35] looked online at how to enable DnD on an individual cordless phone (Panasonic cordless. Yes. shut up). [14:35] and found a video [14:36] the video literally was just some cutesy animation oabout how thos woman twas frustrated that she would get calls in the night [14:36] no instructions, no nothing. [14:36] 2 minutes of animation saying that it was possible and nothing else [14:36] and a list of model numbers of phones that support it [14:36] https://channel.panasonic.com/contents/12462/ [14:37] on youtube, right? [14:38] i click on that, click play, and my work macbook pro plays it at full audio now matter what audio adjustment I set it to. [14:40] Oh that's nice [16:41] jrwren, it heard you talking about how it just works i guess [17:12] yeah, i dunno WTF. [17:12] its super crazy tech day. everything is broken. [17:23] heh [17:24] I think it's karma saying "don't get cocky". ;) [17:24] oh no. i complain about EVERYTHING [17:24] i pretty much hate everything. [17:25] Have you considered knitting? [17:26] i have! [18:39] rebooting is often a good option for our users, tends to fix things/finish applying patches [18:42] ;-; [18:48] blergh