[09:27] <Scary_Guy> I'm not addicted, I can stop anytime I want to.  I just never want to :D
[09:28] <Scary_Guy> also "let's shame people for being human" or let's not and mind our own damn business
[12:39] <jrwren> non-sequitur or misdir
[12:56] <cmaloney> Good morning
[12:58] <rick_h_> party
[13:05] <jrwren> feels like it should be friday, but its only Thursday.
[13:21] <cmaloney> Heh
[13:21] <cmaloney> I'm not sure any day feels like they day it should be.
[13:53] <Scary_Guy> feels like four Mondays, then a Friday usually
[13:56] <rick_h_> teaching my wife what an "editor" is today...feels like a monday
[13:56] <cmaloney> Heh
[13:56] <cmaloney> which sort of editor?
[13:56] <rick_h_> "I thought that was only there for taking notes"
[13:56] <cmaloney> Oh nice
[13:56] <rick_h_> she couldn't connect to starbucks wifi and found an askubuntu post using "sudo nano /etc/hosts"
[13:57] <rick_h_> which she didn't have nano on the machine so it said command not found, though it might have been because she missed the space after nano and before the /
[13:57] <rick_h_> so I told her to replace nano with gedit, I knew it was on there
[13:57] <rick_h_> and that brought up "what is this doing, what's a 'gehdit'"
[13:58] <rick_h_> anyway, now she thinks if she goes back to windows she'll be able to fix these things herself
[13:58] <cmaloney> Woo hoo
[13:58] <rick_h_> have at it
[13:58] <jrwren> a mac would never have the issues. :p
[13:58] <rick_h_> she went ubuntu because she was so mad at windows
[13:58] <rick_h_> :P
[13:59] <jrwren> it would just have other issues.
[13:59] <rick_h_> all computers do
[13:59] <jrwren> like... why is my kernel using 2.5GB of my memory?
[13:59] <cmaloney> a mac would not want to connect to the wifi without a dongle
[13:59] <jrwren> mac used to get better with every release. now it gets worse.
[14:00] <rick_h_> it's just funny having "I should be able to fix these things myself" followed directly up by "I don't want to learn how all this works. I don't have time for that"
[14:00] <rick_h_> had to do the "what would your parents do in this situation?"
[14:00] <rick_h_> and her realize that's what folks do. Either learn or go to geeksquad once a month
[14:01] <cmaloney> It's like a confirmation for computers
[14:01] <cmaloney> Welcome to the congregation; now you get to know all of the dirt
[14:02] <jrwren> hey, i feel like she does. shit should just work.
[14:02] <jrwren> at least in the linux case, you haven't paid for anything
[14:03] <jrwren> but with windows and mac, i've paid thousands over the years for shit that doesn't work quite right. its infuriating.
[14:03] <rick_h_> yea, but I mean "this wifi thing doesn't work with the google wifi system starbucks bought and installed ..."
[14:04] <rick_h_> I mean, at some point the various permutations/layers involved is untenable to always work
[14:04] <jrwren> i literally never have problems connecting to wifi on my apple devices.
[14:04] <jrwren> i realize that is only my experience and is annecdotal, and yet... it keeps be running this apple junk, because as bad as it is, I know its worse elsewhere.
[14:05] <rick_h_> yea, they've narrowed down a layer of the moving parts on their end by dictating the hardware set
[14:05] <rick_h_> linux/windows hasn't been able to do that
[14:05] <rick_h_> meh, I just figure stuff won't always work
[14:05] <rick_h_> so I asked her where the mifi was because that's known to work and she'd be off to the races vs looking up askubuntu stuff
[14:06] <jrwren> lemme guess. its at home :)
[14:07] <rick_h_> :)
[14:07] <rick_h_> which is where she's back at now that she can't work from the starbucks
[14:07] <rick_h_> anyway, very monday feeling
[14:08] <jrwren> yeah. that sucks.
[14:08] <rick_h_> with the rain to help give it that proper monday overcast
[14:08] <jrwren> i just get so angry at macos kernel_task CPU and memory usage. its infuriating.
[14:27] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Have you been to the Starbucks to see what they're doing?
[14:28] <cmaloney> I mean, not today, but in the past?
[14:28] <rick_h_> cmaloney: yea, they want you to create an account and sign in so I just mifi now. I refuse to do the account stuff
[14:28] <cmaloney> Oh fuck that shit
[14:29] <cmaloney> what's the point of going there then if they're going to try to track you
[14:29] <rick_h_> yea, exactly
[14:30] <cmaloney> I had my "I want to be a hermit and leave tech behind" moment yesterday
[14:35] <jrwren> only just now?
[14:35] <cmaloney> looked online at how to enable DnD on an individual cordless phone (Panasonic cordless. Yes. shut up).
[14:35] <cmaloney> and found a video
[14:36] <cmaloney> the video literally was just some cutesy animation oabout how thos woman twas frustrated that she would get calls in the night
[14:36] <cmaloney> no instructions, no nothing.
[14:36] <cmaloney> 2 minutes of animation saying that it was possible and nothing else
[14:36] <cmaloney> and a list of model numbers of phones that support it
[14:36] <cmaloney> https://channel.panasonic.com/contents/12462/
[14:37] <jrwren> on youtube, right?
[14:38] <jrwren> i click on that, click play, and my work macbook pro plays it at full audio now matter what audio adjustment I set it to.
[14:40] <cmaloney> Oh that's nice
[16:41] <waldo323> jrwren, it heard you talking about how it just works i guess
[17:12] <jrwren> yeah, i dunno WTF.
[17:12] <jrwren> its super crazy tech day. everything is broken.
[17:23] <cmaloney> heh
[17:24] <cmaloney> I think it's karma saying "don't get cocky". ;)
[17:24] <jrwren> oh no. i complain about EVERYTHING
[17:24] <jrwren> i pretty much hate everything.
[17:25] <cmaloney> Have you considered knitting?
[17:26] <jrwren> i have!
[18:39] <waldo323> rebooting is often a good option for our users, tends to fix things/finish applying patches
[18:42] <jrwren> ;-;
[18:48] <cmaloney> blergh