[00:12] <qwebirc48335> Hi
[00:12] <qwebirc48335> Even if i change speed and duplex of my card, settings stay the same.
[00:17] <_0xbadc0de_> how can I set a user to be confined to a certain home directory and make sure it does not have the permissions to access anything upper than the user directory?
[01:08] <Squarism> is there a direct 14.04 -> 18.04 upgrade available?
[01:09] <Squarism> (..if so, how does one do it
[01:11] <Bashing-om> Squarism: The LTS path is 14.04 -> 16.04 -> 18.04 . A lot of time and bandwidth ,, and a lot of changes from 14.04, Back up your data and be prepared to do a clean fresh install.
[01:12] <Squarism> Sound easier definitely
[01:23] <kzisme> After setting up Ubuntu Server on a fresh SSD any ideas why I cannot ping/connect it even though it shows properly on my router?
[01:23] <kzisme> I basically only get host is down or connection timeouts
[01:24] <spaces> kzisme iptables ?
[01:25] <kzisme> spaces: Would it matter if it's on LAN?  I pretty much just swapped out the SSD from one desktop to another to move it I wasn't sure if if I missed a setting or something so that I could just ssh in from a reboot
[01:25] <kzisme> I don't have a monitor for it, so I'm ideally trying to only swap the SSD a few times to figure out the issue(s)
[01:25] <spaces> should be the same, but did you empty 70-rules ?
[01:25] <spaces> net rules
[01:25] <spaces> and rebooted
[01:26] <spaces> you have a different nic
[01:26] <kzisme> I'll re-re-boot again and see I'm not sure what empty 70 rules are exactly
[01:27] <spaces> kzisme erm, sec
[01:28] <spaces> no reboot yet
[01:28] <spaces> kzisme it should be in /etc/udev/rules.d
[01:30] <kzisme> spaces: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FCzPJ527H3/
[01:30] <kzisme> For reference - so I can't ssh to it I'll have to go grab the drive and put it in my machine with a monitor
[01:30] <kzisme> When it was initially in my other machine I could ssh to it only after logging in manually once
[01:32] <spaces> because it knows the nic
[01:32] <spaces> hw address and such
[01:32] <spaces> remove it from your other PC, shutdown, put it in the other one and boot it, check your router, it shouldbe there
[01:33] <spaces> your router is showing an old arp table
[01:34] <kzisme> OK so the host machine has been shut down and i pulled the drive
[01:34] <kzisme> It is no longer listed for DHCP leases
[01:37] <kzisme> and I just logged in on my other machine with the drive
[01:38] <kzisme> spaces: Only thing I see is udevadm
[01:45] <Melmothia2> Is there a reason boot times on ubuntu 18.04 is noticeably slower?
[01:48] <marquezini> any brazilian in this channel???? :@
[01:48] <cfhowlett> !br | marquezini
[01:49] <marquezini> off course
[01:49] <marquezini> but
[01:58] <kzisme> So would anyone know of a reason I would first have to login to ubuntu server before being able to ping or ssh to it?
[02:00] <Guest87964> So would anyone know of a reason I would first have to login to
[02:05] <Guest87964> try mingetty?
[02:05] <Guest87964> mingetty for auto login?
[02:13] <timvisher> we're seeing massive jvm performance regressions on `Linux 3.13.0-155-generic` vs. `Linux 3.13.0-153-generic`. is anyone else seeing that?
[02:15] <ubnutlinuxshite> whats happening
[02:15] <konrados> Hello again. I installed wicd meta package (described as "Network connection manager") with `apt install wicd`, and then, after I changed my mind, I did `apt purge wicd` and `apt remove wicd` (all with sudo), but it seems it didn't clear everything. For example I have things in /etc/wicd (e.g. /etc/wicd/scripts ), /usr/bin/wicd-client, and apparently a daemon - /etc/init.d/wicd - but... why? When I did the 'purge' there were no errors... What
[02:15] <konrados> should I do now? Remove them manually?
[02:16] <ubnutlinuxshite> konrados, this is ubutu you are running get a proper distro or just reinstall the entire thing
[02:17] <Guest87964> lol
[02:17] <ubnutlinuxshite> or ask in archlinux, those guys know more abut ubuntu than these muppets
[02:18] <cfhowlett> thank you mwsb
[02:18] <cfhowlett> konrados, disregard the previous false info
[02:18] <konrados> OK, I will :)
[02:18] <cfhowlett> purge should have cleared you.  Have you rebooted since your last operation?
[02:19] <konrados> cfhowlett: yes, I did it right now, only to see I have some autostarted staff and the daemon running :(
[02:20] <cfhowlett> this is a bit over my clearance, but if WICD replaced something else, that could explain the artifacts
[02:21] <Guest87964> woud try mv with a live cd? if it still works then consider deleting artifacts be safe?
[02:21] <Guest87964> if it messes up just mv back with live cd
[02:22] <konrados> Guest87964: what do you mean by 'mv'? You mean create a 'live cd'?
[02:23] <konrados> What if I .... moved those files (the daemon and the austoart thing) to somewhere, restarted and see if everything works fine? And if it is, I would leave it like that?
[02:24] <Guest87964> woud try mv with a live cd? if it mv -f /folder /folder.old, if it doesnt work well, or boot then load up a live cd, and mv -f /folder.old /folder
[02:24] <Guest87964> my bad for the typos
[02:25] <Guest87964> safer than just deleting
[02:25] <Guest87964> man mv
[02:25] <konrados> Guest87964: ok, well, yeah, I'll play with moving stuff around, thanks!
[02:26] <Guest87964> good luck, you're welcome
[02:29] <kzisme> Well...carried my monitor downstairs and the only thing I have been able to find on boot is that it failed to start raise network services
[02:35] <tesu29>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[02:48] <neon__> what version of glibc is the latest for ubuntu
[02:48] <neon__> like standard ubuntu/ubuntu studio
[02:50] <Bashing-om> !info clisp-module-bindings-glibc | neon__
[02:51] <neon__> thst isnt glibc
[02:51] <Kon-> neon__: 2.27-3
[02:52] <neon__> !info glibc
[02:52] <Kon-> That's in 18.04. I don't know about Studio
[02:52] <neon__> o.o
[02:52] <neon__> !info libc
[02:52] <neon__> o.o
[02:52] <Kon-> !info libc-bin
[02:52] <neon__> ok
[02:52] <Bashing-om> !info glibc-source | neon__
[02:52]  * neon__ aquires kubuntu
[02:55] <leftyfb> neon__: why do you need to know?
[02:56] <konrados> Hi again. I did `sudo apt autoremove` and it was worked hard for about 30 minutes o.O Now I'm a bit scared about rebooting. It did something to the 'grub', precisely "Generating grub configuration file " - do you know what did it change? The /etc/default/grub file doesn't seem to be modified, and I would like to... IDK, make sure that everything's fine before rebooting?
[02:58] <krytarik> This is what happens when it removes old kernels, yep.
[03:00] <konrados> krytarik: ok, so it isn't anything special, and I can just reboot without fear?
[03:00] <krytarik> I would certainly say so, yes.
[03:01] <konrados> krytarik: thanks! So... let me try it! :)
[03:01] <neon__> leftyfb: cus my program doesnt work with glibc 2.28 and idk why
[03:02] <Kon-> Speaking of kernel upgrades, why are some parts of the new kernel labeled 4.15.0-32.35 while others are 4.15.0-32.34? dpkg seems to think I have both 32.34 and 32.35 installed
[03:02] <Kon-> By new kernel I mean the latest update for Bionic
[03:03] <neon__> and i xant boot up chakra os (known to have 2.26 as latest) cus of my stupid graphics card even with nomodeset
[03:03] <neon__> cant*
[03:09] <konrados> krytarik: it's alive! I mean my Ubuntu:) Thanks again!
[03:10] <krytarik> Glad to reassure you on this. :P
[03:13] <nacc> Kon-: what do you mean by "labeled"?
[03:13] <nacc> 32.34 is the current 18.04 kernel; I don't even see 32.35 in -proposed
[03:13] <neon> it didnt work ;-;
[03:13] <neon> why ;-;
[03:14] <Guest20195> i did
[03:14] <Guest20195> dd if=/mnt/Downloads/kubuntu-18.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb status=progress
[03:15] <krytarik> nacc: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/4.15.0-32.35 - I contest this. :P
[03:15] <nacc> krytarik: interesting, the linux-image-generic  has not been updated to match
[03:16] <nacc> krytarik: i was only checking the metapackage, which is what a normal installation tracks
[03:17] <krytarik> Fair enough - and I didn't check the other. :P
[03:18] <Kon-> nacc: https://images2.imgbox.com/1c/20/xLsu5m6M_o.png
[03:19] <Kon-> Ah, relevant information already provided
[03:19] <Kon-> Yes, seems there was some mismatch happening
[03:22] <nacc> Kon-: i'd ask in #ubuntu-kernel
[03:35] <Randolf> I'm having problems getting bind9 working properly.  On NetBSD it was easy to set it up as a DNS server that acts as a general resolver for internal DHCP clients, but on Ubuntu it doesn't seem to work at all.  I have the root zone file updated already, but that's not the issue -- it just doesn't respond to any queries, not even from localhost.
[03:35] <energizer> hello what can i use to rip a music cd?
[03:35] <Randolf> Searching online it seems that I'm not the only one who has problems with this.
[03:36] <Randolf> Nothing shows up in netstat for UDP port 53 either (or TCP port 53).
[03:36] <Randolf> Also the /var/log/syslog output shows named loading, but nothing else.
[03:36] <Randolf> I'm using Ubuntu Linux 18.04 LTS.
[03:37] <Randolf> Is there something special that I need to do to get ISC Bind 9 working under Ubuntu Linux?  Thanks.
[03:38] <WiredConnectionF> Hi guys, ##linux-help is pretty empty. Is this the place to seek out help with Ubuntu issues? The Ubuntu answer hub and 5 pages of Google results don't seem to have helped me at all with my networking problem.
[03:39] <Randolf> WiredConnectionF: What problem are you encountering?
[03:41] <WiredConnectionF> @Randolf:  the old laptop was working fine until today. Booted it up and suddenly the Wired Ethernet connection doesn't work to the router anymore. Connecting the cable to the modem directly makes it work fine, though!
[03:42] <WiredConnectionF> So you'd think the router was bad or something... but it seems to work fine for this regular PC I'm using now, which is also wired into the same router.
[03:42] <WiredConnectionF> Also the Wifi for mobile devices work fine, too, so I'm thinking that the laptop's Ubuntu thing somehow forgot how to communicate with the router.
[03:42] <kk4ewt> try another port in the routor ?
[03:42] <WiredConnectionF> @kk4ewt Sadly that didn't work, I read that suggestion earlier while googling.
[03:43] <Randolf> WiredConnectionF: Is your router just a plain ethernet switch, or is it more sophisticated than that?
[03:43] <WiredConnectionF> It's a pretty simple router, so I imagine it's just a plain ethernet switch
[03:43] <kk4ewt> reset the routor?
[03:43] <WiredConnectionF> I've tried resetting the router as well, but sadly that hasn't worked.
[03:43] <Randolf> What brand and model of router is it?
[03:44] <kk4ewt> time for a new routor
[03:44] <Randolf> kk4ewt: That's probably correct.
[03:44] <WiredConnectionF> I'm not sure if it's the router that's the problem because this PC as well as all the mobile devices work fine it looks like
[03:44] <Randolf> What brand and model of router is it?
[03:44] <kk4ewt> WiredConnectionF,  you bypassed the routor and things worked
[03:44] <WiredConnectionF> Brand is IPTime and model is N104T
[03:45] <WiredConnectionF> I've tried `sudo service network-manager restart` per google instructions
[03:45] <WiredConnectionF> I've tried modifying /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf to make the eth0 interface be managed
[03:46] <WiredConnectionF> I've tried manually doing `ifdown eth0` and `ifup eth0`
[03:46] <Randolf> WiredConnectionF: That's not a simple ethernet switch.  Make sure your settings are correct.  What is your gateway set to by its internal DHCP server?
[03:46] <kk4ewt> WiredConnectionF,  you computer is fine get a new routor
[03:46] <kk4ewt> WiredConnectionF> @Randolf:  the old laptop was working fine until today. Booted it up and suddenly the Wired Ethernet connection doesn't work to the router anymore. Connecting the cable to the modem directly makes it work fine, though!
[03:46] <WiredConnectionF> Gateway is set to 118.33.26.254
[03:46] <kk4ewt> so computer is fine
[03:47] <Randolf> WiredConnectionF: So, that's not your router then.
[03:47] <kk4ewt> routor is screwed
[03:47] <WiredConnectionF> Well hang on a second @kk4ewt -- I had actually run into this same problem with my Ubuntu on this PC earlier, but after formatting and reinstalling the distro via Wubi it went back to working fine again.
[03:47] <Randolf> Yup, get a new router.  That's basically a no-name brand router.  Get something really good like a Ubiquiti wireless router and you'll be much better off.
[03:48] <WiredConnectionF> The only reason I'm being a stubborn ass about this laptop is because it has all of my Perforce server data and I really don't want to have to move all of that data into a USB. Setting up Perforce is a pain in the ass so I'm trying to avoid it as best I can by diagnosing the issue.
[03:48] <Randolf> You're wasting your time.  Your router is b0rked.
[03:49] <Randolf> Get a new router.
[03:49] <WiredConnectionF> :-/ that does sound like the easier option, yeah
[03:49] <Randolf> Yup.
[03:49] <Randolf> I have to replace wireless routers for my clients sometimes, because they don't last forever.  The cheaper brands simply fail more often.
[03:49] <WiredConnectionF> I didn't know that routers could be borked and still appear to work fine for other machines
[03:50] <WiredConnectionF> And yeah what you're saying is logical, I agree. I've had this router since 2012.
[03:50] <Randolf> Do you have other wired machines connected to it?
[03:50] <WiredConnectionF> Yeah it's wired to 2 machines and its wifi works fine on two mobile devices in the house here.
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> sounds like more a question for ##networking WiredConnectionF
[03:50] <WiredConnectionF> It's just this one laptop that's all of a sudden not working, though this PC also didn't work until I reinstalled my distro
[03:51] <WiredConnectionF> Sure I can go visit ##networking and see what they think
[03:51] <Randolf> I found that the LinkSys routers generally lasted much longer than most competitors.  I only use Ubiquiti now though as they tend to be a lot better, and last more than 3 times longer than the LinkSys gear.
[03:51] <WiredConnectionF> Thanks for the recommendation, though sadly I don't think that those companies sell their stuff here in Korea
[03:51] <Randolf> Ooh.
[03:52] <Randolf> So, if other computers are still able to connect and obtain DHCP addresses, then it probably isn't the router.
[03:52] <Randolf> When you're connected to the router, do you get a DHCP address?  If so, does it assign a gateway address too?
[03:52] <Randolf> If you can ping the gateway, and the gateway really is the router's IP address, then you should be fine.
[03:52] <WiredConnectionF> Yeah, that's what's so confusing. I'm confident that if I just format and reinstall a fresh distro it'll work fine again, but I'm just trying to avoid it because of all the data I'd have to back up
[03:53] <Randolf> Which version of Ubuntu Linux are you using?
[03:53] <WiredConnectionF> 16.04 LTS
[03:53] <WiredConnectionF> Kernel is 4.4
[03:53] <Randolf> That should be fine.
[03:53] <Randolf> 18.04 LTS switched from ifupdown to netplan, and netplan is unreliable, particularly for IPv6 stuff, but you don't have to worry about that.
[03:54] <WiredConnectionF> Do you think I might be able to fix the issue by upgrading?
[03:54] <WiredConnectionF> One of the things I tried from googling was turning off ipv6
[03:54] <Randolf> Well, if your hardware supports 64-bit OS, and you're prepared to re-install anyway, might as well give it a try.  I'm using 18.04 LTS on my laptop and it supports wireless, wired, and multiple OpenVPN connections all at once.
[03:55] <Randolf> You shouldn't have to turn off IPv6.
[03:55] <WiredConnectionF> In /etc/sysctl.conf
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[03:58] <Randolf> WiredConnectionF: Does your system get assigned a DHCP address when you connect with a wire?
[03:58] <WiredConnectionF> The Wired Connection is set to automatic (DHCP) on the laptop -- I'll try to check again here
[03:58] <WiredConnectionF> On the front-end, at least, it just keeps perpetually trying to connect and then saying "Disconnected" over and over
[03:59] <qwebirc92083> Hey guys! I just recently setup Ubuntu Server and I've been having lots of trouble ssh'ing into it. I am 100% sure that the password I am entering is correct but when I go to check the logs it tells me that PAM says the password is incorrect. This is a fresh install and I cannot figure it out... Any help would be greatly appreciated
[03:59] <Randolf> WiredConnectionF:  Have you tried a known-good network cable?
[03:59] <WiredConnectionF> Yeah sure I can try it with a different ethernet cable
[03:59] <Randolf> qwebirc92083: Are you trying to login as root?
[03:59] <Randolf> WiredConnectionF: Please do.
[03:59] <qwebirc92083> Randolf: Nop, I'm trying with the user I setup
[04:00] <qwebirc92083> And I also tried creating a second user and its coming up with the same problem
[04:00] <anthony2> wt\
[04:01] <Randolf> qwebirc92083: In the file /etc/ssh/sshd_config is "PasswordAuthentication" set to yes?
[04:01] <WiredConnectionF> @Randolf According to `dhclient -v` I just keep getting "Failed to send packet" to the 255.255.255.255 address. The error message is just that the "Network is down"
[04:01] <qwebirc92083> I'll go check
[04:01] <WiredConnectionF> I'll go give the different ethernet cable a shot
[04:02] <Randolf> WiredConnectionF: Use "ifconfig" to check the status of your network adapter -- it should indicate whether you have a live cable connected or not.
[04:03] <qwebirc92083> Randolf: It is set to yes
[04:03] <WiredConnectionF> yeah it says UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST, but doesn't show the inet addr or the Mask, which I think means that it doesn't have a connection at all
[04:04] <Randolf> If you configure a static IP, netmask, and gateway, does it work?
[04:04] <WiredConnectionF> Yeah just tested here with a new ethernet cable and it still says the same thing and behaves the same way
[04:05] <Randolf> You'll want to choose a static IP that's outside of the DHCP range to prevent future conflicts.
[04:05] <WiredConnectionF> Right so I actually tried doing that a half hour ago and it "said" that it was connected but couldn't actually connect to anything. It's possible that I messed up an address or something, though.
[04:06] <Randolf> If static IP works, then there's a problem with DHCP assignment.  Most likely in the router because Ubuntu's DHCP client seems robust to me.
[04:07] <WiredConnectionF> It's also possible I inadvertently fucked something up with all of the terminal commands I entered while googling advice
[04:08] <WiredConnectionF> There wouldn't happen to be some kind of "soft reinstall", say a reset or something back to default factory settings without wiping personal data like with what you can do on a mobile device, is there?
[04:08] <WiredConnectionF> Maybe some setting in Wubi or Grub that I haven't learned about yet
[04:10] <Randolf> I'm not familiar with Wubi.  Grug has nothing to do with networking.
[04:10] <Randolf> s/Grug/Grub/
[04:11] <cfhowlett> no one - NO ONE - should still be using Wubi.  It WILL fail and it WILL act stupid.  Do not wubi, ever.
[04:11] <WiredConnectionF> idk it worked for me, though my wubi thing is like 4 years old
[04:12] <cfhowlett> !wubi
[04:12] <WiredConnectionF> Cool beans
[04:12] <Randolf> WiredConnectionF: I wonder if Wubi screwed up your networking.
[04:12] <Randolf> WiredConnectionF: I'd steer clear of Wubi if I were you.
[04:12] <Randolf> Are you running Ubuntu under Windows by any chance?
[04:13] <pablo_>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-131-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     L9400  @ 1.86GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1,60GHz ** RAM: Physical: 2,9GiB, 54,1% free ** Disk: Total: 24,8GiB, 62,5% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel ** Ethernet: Intel Corporation 82567LM Gigabit Network Connection **
[04:13] <pablo_> Uptime: 2h 13m 47s **
[04:13] <WiredConnectionF> So this PC here is like that, yes, and I fixed the same issue by using Wubi to reinstall 14.04 LTS on this PC.
[04:13] <WiredConnectionF> The laptop however is just straight Ubuntu, though
[04:13] <pablo_> hello
[04:13] <cfhowlett> WiredConnectionF, best alternative to wubi would be windows + virtualbox + ubuntu virtual machine in VBox
[04:13] <Randolf> Windows interferes with everything, including its own updates and Microsoft Office.
[04:14] <pablo_> hexchat have scripting support for perl or tcl ?
[04:14] <Randolf> I recently dumped Windows 10 because it kept committing suicide with its faulty automatic updates.
[04:14] <cfhowlett> pablo_, best to ask #hexchat support
[04:14] <Randolf> pablo_: I believe I read somewhere that it does.  Ask in the #hexchat channel.
[04:14] <WiredConnectionF> Well I think what I'm gonna try to do is upgrade my laptop to 18.04 LTS and hope that that somehow fixes the networking issue.
[04:15] <WiredConnectionF> If I'm not back within an hour or two I guess we can assume it worked
[04:15] <WiredConnectionF> Here goes nothing
[04:15] <Randolf> WiredConnectionF:  Only do that if your laptop is 64-bit.  Ubuntu 18.04 LTS no longer supports 32-bit systems.
[04:15] <WiredConnectionF> It's 64-bit, yeah
[04:15] <Randolf> Install from CD.
[04:15] <Randolf> Start from scratch.
[04:15] <Randolf> Backup your data first.
[04:15] <Randolf> Have fun!
[04:15]  * Randolf will be back in a while...
[04:48] <qmn_> hi everyone, can you hear me?
[04:49] <cfhowlett> ask your ubuntu question, qmn_
[04:51] <qmn_> hi cfhowlett, I've found the answer on stackoverflow, thank you!
[04:52] <cfhowlett> :)
[05:16] <Randolf> Well, that was easy.  :)
[05:17] <Randolf> Okay, so I got Bind9 working properly.  There are some unnecessary bits in the default package-provided configuration, but my main problem was that IPv6 isn't routing properly at the moment.  My upstream will be fixing that very soon, and until then I'll be using IPv4 only.
[05:23] <WiredConnection> Hey just wanted to check in and report that after reinstalling a fresh distro and wiping the old stuff, after making backups of all my crap, the networking wired connection is back to working once again!
[05:23] <WiredConnection> Still have no idea what went wrong but just reinstalling from scratch and formatting somehow fixed it.
[05:23] <WiredConnection> It's probably the most Linux thing that could ever happen
[05:23] <WiredConnection> In any case, thanks for the help guys
[05:26] <ELQEYNN> What made the Zulus, of all people, come up with their own Linux distro?
[05:28] <cfhowlett> ELQEYNN, ... no.  this is the ubuntu support channel.  chitchat/jibberjabber/jokes belong in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:28] <Citizen-Se7en> ELQEYNN: probably the same reasons the North Koreans came up with their own.
[05:30] <m0rd3cai> Citizen-Se7en: you know what the distro's called?
[05:30] <Citizen-Se7en> m0rd3cai: If you're referring to the North Koreans, I believe it's called Red Star Linux
[05:31] <m0rd3cai> cool sounds intresting, thanks!
[05:31] <cfhowlett> renamed: Red Star OS
[05:31] <Citizen-Se7en> cfhowlett: ah...
[05:31] <Randolf> Hammer And Sickle OS.
[05:32] <Citizen-Se7en> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Star_OS
[05:33] <m0rd3cai> if only I could read Korean
[05:36] <Randolf> Hmm, it almost looks like a pirated copy of Windows XP.
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> guys, keep it ontopic please
[05:37]  * Citizen-Se7en apologized to lotuspsychje
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[05:38] <cfhowlett> ah not this again ...
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> superman1: did you fix your issue from yesterday?
[05:50] <Galactor> hello!
[05:50] <Galactor> I'm looking for a suggestion if anyone has got one
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Galactor
[05:51] <cbmgraphics> Anyone active?
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> !ask | cbmgraphics
[05:51] <evil>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[05:51] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, can we ban this ip ^^^
[05:52] <cfhowlett> It's a bot, yes, but a damn annoying one
[05:52] <cbmgraphics>  I got a little issue. As the title says, my screen flashes black for a split second, I have no clue why. Currently running a new install of Ubuntu 18.04.1. Got the necessary drivers from AMDs site (I'm running on a RX580) and all that, have reinstalled as a possible solution but that was a dead end. Thought it could've been something with compton since I'm running that on this WM but I loaded up the normal Ubuntu DE and it happen
[05:52] <Galactor> I run i3 windows manager, but connecting to wifi is very mysterious. is there a terminal based GUI program for connecting to wifi networks, or an easy way to do it from the command line?
[05:52] <superman1> lotuspsychje: i had install ubuntu-desktop, linux-kernel-image, gdm3 to.
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: they are related to the non-stop freenode spam..its known for weeks now
[05:52] <cfhowlett> cool.  thanks.
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> superman1: did it work?
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: freenode set +R now on join to protect against
[05:53] <cbmgraphics> Yikes, message too long. Getting a random black flashing every now and then on ubuntu 18.04.1. Looed through dmesg and xorg logs and haven't found anything. I know it's not a hardware issue because it doesn't persist on other operating systems. Any clue as to whats going on?
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> cbmgraphics: have you tested this from wayland, to see if you have it there too?
[05:57] <cbmgraphics> I have not, I can try though. (Kind of a noob when it comes to linux, couldn't even tell you what wayland is to be honest)
[05:58] <cbmgraphics> I shall be back
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> cbmgraphics: logout to your gdm login screen, then when you enter your username, click the gear icon to choose
[06:02] <nikolam> If I have only modules coretemp and w83627ehf recognized and nothing by default in /etc/fancontrol by default , how then to control fan speed? (otherwise then leaving it to MoBo, because it tends to lower voltage of CPU and that can lead to instability. MB is Asus P5W DH Deluxe, CPU Xeon E5420
[06:06] <nikolam> sudo pwmconfig ,says: /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed
[06:09] <cbmgraphics> That issue I mentioned earlier persists in a similar (but not identical) form in wayland
[06:09] <nikolam> Maybe it can't lower cpu fan speed without lowering frequencies and Vcore, etc at the same time. So if not hardware/BIOS is doing it then.. can Linux do the same thing?
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> cbmgraphics: ok, what happens there exactly?
[06:11] <cbmgraphics> The issue may persist identically at some point, but since I don't know the cause I just have to wait around. So far though I've been getting flashing black squares around the edges of my screen
[06:11] <cbmgraphics> To be clear, it's a single probably 0.1 second flash of blackness that occurs every ~10 minutes
[06:13] <cbmgraphics> Yep, just happened identically to what it has been. The squares earlier may have been an issue specifically on the video player I had full screen (I was watching youtube as I waited for the issue to happen).
[06:20] <cbmgraphics> I have a vetted dmesg log if anyone is interested in scanning through it themselves
[06:25] <cfhowlett> cbmgraphics, put it in a paste
[06:26] <cbmgraphics> https://pastebin.com/9SbDPitj there you go
[06:27] <superman1> lotuspsychje: I answered you. For me the upgrade experience was horrible. I think I had to install everything again.
[06:27] <Yogesh> yaaa
[06:28] <superman1> lotuspsychje: I still do not know if everything was upgraded. (Like I had to reinstall appstream which is used by apt-get to make sure apt-get update works. I have reinstall vi and vim)
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> superman1: not sure why it happened, its not supposed to be..
[06:28] <superman1> lotuspsychje: my terminator is sting broken
[06:28] <superman1> lotuspsychje: I have a snapshotted 16.04 vm. And I did this 14 times.
[06:30] <superman1> lotuspsychje: not sure if the upgrade is logged somewhere. I wish I could read there to find out what screwed it up. but yup I had to install everything again.
[06:30] <superman1> lotuspsychje: but thanks for your help. I would have never installed ubuntu-desktop if you had not suggested :-)
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> superman1: youre welcome
[06:47] <LinuxTabletUser> Good Morning :-)
[06:47] <LinuxTabletUser> !18.04
[06:48] <LinuxTabletUser> !4.04
[06:48] <nikolam> hi Truman, LinuxTabletUser :P
[06:48] <LinuxTabletUser> !4.10
[06:48] <LinuxTabletUser> !eol
[06:48] <yan-xubuntu> ==ubuntu lubuntu xubuntu buggie kylin[06:49] <nikolam> LinuxTabletUser, you can also message it. /msg ubottu and have a nice private chat :)
[06:49] <LinuxTabletUser> Ok Srry
[06:50] <linux8659> Hi ,using openvpn client on ubuntu (17.10 and 18.04) with different vpn providers I get dns leaks
[06:51] <linux8659> my way around it is not to use the vpn dns but to name a dns in network manager then it works (I know because my iptables only allow dns on the vpn interface ,any suggestions ???
[06:53] <linux8659> couldn t get any help on #openvpn ,they all must be on windows ,mac...
[06:56] <ducasse> linux8659: not an answer to your question, but 17.10 is eol - you should not be using it anymore
[06:57] <linux8659> yes was just to say this bug is not new
[07:05] <guiverc> linux8659, did you add yourself to the bug on lp (adding heat);  if its 1688018 there is a workaround...
[07:05] <tomreyn> bug 1688018
[07:07] <tomreyn> bug 1685391 has configuration in comment #15 which may work for this use case.
[07:07] <tomreyn> and there is another discussion without much facts in bug 1652525
[07:07] <Galactor> hi all! is there a good TUI for connecting to wifi via terminal?
[07:09] <ducasse> Galactor: nmtui?
[07:10] <tomreyn> linux8659: and another bug 1211110
[07:11] <Galactor> thanks ducasse; I'll give it a go :)
[07:15] <linux8659> thanks ! yes many bug reports but I didn t find a working solution so far
[07:17] <TJ-> Is there a known bug in 18.04 with NetworkManager not managing wired connections? Investigating it led me to /usr/lib/NetworkManager/conf.d/10-globally-managed-devices.conf with "unmanaged-devices=*;except:type:wifi,except:type:wwan"
[07:24] <nikolam> Anyone have a clue if these EDAC messages actually show RAM errors? (I have working ECC UDIMM RAM, motherboard and CPU supports it and it is ON for error reporting (since it is not RDIMM, it just rpeorts arrors and avoids them not automatically repairs them): https://bpaste.net/show/3dee67c0e6a5
[07:24] <nikolam> So are they errors or not?
[07:26] <LoopAtHome> hi
[07:27] <LoopAtHome> hello
[07:28] <LoopAtHome> hola
[07:28] <LoopAtHome> Namaste
[07:28] <nikolam> $ sudo edac-util -v says : mc0: 0 Uncorrected Errors with no DIMM info , mc0: 0 Corrected Errors with no DIMM info , edac-util: No errors to report. .
[07:28] <nikolam> So why then it shows all that traffic in journalctl?
[07:28] <LoopAtHome> Anyone want to chat
[07:29] <LoopAtHome> nikolam , do you want to ??
[07:29] <LoopAtHome> ??
[07:29] <nikolam> yes, you can /msg nickname to chat in private if not about Ubuntu support. Also you can create your own channels on freenode, yet, calling to your channel people form others, in public is like, nono
[07:30] <LoopAtHome> how to send file?
[07:31] <nikolam> LoopAtHome, usually don't. There is a IRC standard for that bbut it is mostly unused. I usually use mega.nz and it's links.
[07:31] <nikolam> Also if long text needs to be pasted use pastebin or bpaste or similar service and just paste a link
[07:32] <LoopAtHome> plz accept this is my first time
[07:32] <nikolam> LoopAtHome, IRC can use also client apps for desktop, like hexchat.
[07:33] <LoopAtHome> what nikolam
[07:33] <nikolam> IRC have networks of servers syndicated ,with many channels on them. See it in your IRC client when you install it.
[07:34] <nikolam> LoopAtHome, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_clients
[07:35] <LoopAtHome> what
[07:36] <BlackDalek> is bionc beaver 64bit OS only?
[07:37] <BlackDalek> I mean for 64bit processors only
[07:37] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: for the ubuntu flavour / default gnome desktop, when it comes to intel cpu's, only the 64-bit installation is supported.
[07:38] <nikolam> I like numbered Uuntu release names. Release code names I tend to not remember.
[07:39] <tomreyn> that's not so for some (or all?) of the other flavours (where flavours are xubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu etc.)
[07:39] <LoopAtHome> hola
[07:39] <tomreyn> !releasenotes
[07:41] <Surfer2010> hello :) i have a big problem installing mariadb server, because it tells me i have unmet dependencys
[07:41] <Surfer2010> mariadb-server : Hängt ab von: mariadb-server-10.2 (>= 10.2.17+maria~xenial) soll aber nicht installiert werden E: Probleme können nicht korrigiert werden, Sie haben zurückgehaltene defekte Pakete.
[07:46] <BlackDalek> Is upgrading from 32bit 16.04 OS to 64bit 18.04 OS now supported? I thought upgrading from a 32bit OS to 64bit OS was supposed to be impossible? But today I replaced the Mac Mini's 32bit CPU with a 64bit CPU and Ubuntu offered me the upgrade to 18.04 when I restarted it...
[08:02] <fabric> hello
[08:05] <linux8659> namaskar
[08:06] <guiverc> BlackDalek, to switch from x86 to x86_64 requires a re-install.  You can select 'something else' & not format your drives, but you can't `do-release-upgrade` or other auto-upgrade to switch architectures
[08:12] <linux8659> join #security
[08:12] <linux8659> oops
[08:12] <guiverc> 18.04 supports x86 (32bit), but there are no ISO's for it, ie. you can upgrade it from older releases; but not new install it using an ISO.  Many flavors still supported x86 (32bit) for 18.04  (ie. ISO's available)
[08:18] <naftilos76> Hi i am mounting the shared folder of my linux host within a virtualbox linux guest in fstab using => vbhost  /media/vbhost  vboxsf  defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0022  0  0 . Mounting works except for the fact that permissions are not  exactly preserved. For example, a folder that actually belongs to root is shown in the guest as belonging to me (naftilos76). All i want is permissions to be preserved. Can anyone help? I am in ubuntu 16.04 64bit.
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[08:24] <naftilos76> is everybody on vacation?
[08:29] <cbmgraphics_> How long should one wait before reposting a question
[08:30] <hateball> Common sense is probably the only guideline for that cbmgraphics_ :)
[08:31] <cbmgraphics_> So ~3 hours is enough time
[08:31] <linux8659> sure
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> naftilos76: we have volunteers from all over the world on different timezones not possible to answer at your time always
[08:33] <naftilos76> lotuspsychje: i guess, thanks
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> naftilos76: re-ask in a bit okay
[08:34] <cbmgraphics_> Getting random black flashes when doing things on Ubuntu 18.04.1. When I mean doing things that could mean typing in terminal or roaming the web, I've just noticed it DOESN'T happen when I per se sit and watch a netflix video. Have ruled out hardware and compositor issues. Happens on every WM/DE I have tried. Here's a paste to a dmesg if interested / useful https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BWZ9GWkx2d/
[08:35] <naftilos76> lotuspsychje: i will
[08:40] <brainwash> cbmgraphics_: is that a laptop with hybrid graphics?
[08:40] <cbmgraphics_> It's a desktop, got a RX580 in it
[08:40] <cbmgraphics_> brainwash:
[08:41] <brainwash> ah ok
[08:43] <JimBuntu> naftilos76, Does the same thing happen if you don't manually set the ownership of the root of the drive to uid=1000,gid=1000 ?
[08:43] <brainwash> cbmgraphics_: personally, I would boot the ubuntu iso, and check if flashes occur when using the live session
[08:43] <brainwash> cbmgraphics_: maybe even check with a different distribution
[08:44] <naftilos76> JimBuntu: no, all files/folder belong to root then (without explicitly setting uid & gid)
[08:45] <JimBuntu> naftilos76, is there a different folder which permissions for are not being preserved? What uid/gid owns that folder?
[08:46] <geo27> People hi ! I'm having troubles after executing the upgrade from lts 16.04 to 18.04. There seem to be many broken packages.
[08:46] <cbmgraphics_> brainwash: I can tell you I don't get any flashing on Windows 10. That should be enough to rule out anything outside of the OS
[08:46] <cbmgraphics_> I can try the live image to see if it's something with this install specifically
[08:47] <naftilos76> JimBuntu: the mount point is /media/vbhost which i have set to naftilos76:naftilos76 by using chown
[08:47] <brainwash> cbmgraphics_: you could test with a second user account first too
[08:48] <naftilos76> geo27: unfortunately you have to do a clean install if you do not want to spend 2-3 days trying to fix it and then do it! That is the truth.
[08:48] <brainwash> maybe it's some software you use, maybe something that alters display settings (night mode?)
[08:48] <cbmgraphics_> brainwash: I'll try that but I can't imagine I've changed enough within this user account to break something to this extent
[08:50] <geo27> There is no way to revert the changes made by the installer ?
[08:51] <naftilos76> cbmgraphics_: i have lived through this several time and i do not learn. We are excited to see the new version of our favorite distro work perfectly this time but that never comes. We all have to compromise with all the weak spots of linux...
[08:51] <naftilos76> We simply have to do one simple thing. Do not do anything if our system works!
[08:53] <guiverc> geo27, i can't help (leaving), but what packages, are they from ubuntu-sources? or third-party (ppa's etc)?  ubuntu sourced packages should upgrade & shouldn't be that difficult to fix..
[08:55] <geo27> I have no extra-ppa. I've only followed the gui yesterday (I run kubuntu) that told me that i should upgrade to 18.04.
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[09:05] <Groar> hi
[09:06] <Groar> I have recently upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04 and would like to remove Unity and stay solely with gnome-shell. How could I do it?
[09:07] <linux8659> easy you can cahnge the settings from the loggin screen
[09:07] <linux8659> for the given user you can choose the session ,gnome or unity
[09:08] <Groar> I want to uninstall unity, that's the point
[09:08] <linux8659> oh
[09:12] <linux8659> groar it s well documented on google ,example: youtube.com/watch?v=jpgXth6I80A
[09:30] <ppf> Groar: you can just uninstall it
[09:31] <Groar> ppf: problem is ubuntu-desktop wants to get uninstalled as well
[09:31] <geo27_> Hi again. This time, I've managed to have a desktop environment on my laptop, which will be easier for me to explain my problem.
[09:32] <Groar> hi geo27_
[09:32] <geo27_> Hi Groar !
[09:33] <geo27_> Here we are : after the install from 16.04 to 18.04 (kubuntu), all kde packages (at least) are broken. If I try to reinstall sddm, it complains about many dependencies (qml_module_qtquick2, libqt5gui5, libqtquick5) that will not be installed.
[09:34] <ppf> Groar: yeah, that's okay
[09:34] <geo27_> Is there a way to get them back on ? I've tried many things (apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get install -f, autoremove and so on).
[09:35] <ppf> geo27_: sounds like you installed things from a ppa
[09:35] <Groar> ppf: cool, ty :)
[09:35] <ppf> Groar: that's just a metapackage, but it still confuses me
[09:36] <geo27_> I had no ppa at all (aside the one for skype) on my 16.04. And the upgrade tool throwed it away (as for now, I don't care at all about skype :D)
[09:36] <ppf> Groar: ubuntu-desktop doesn't depend on unity
[09:37] <ppf> geo27_ :ppa-purge the repo then
[09:37] <geo27_> how do I do that ?
[09:37] <ppf> ppa-purge <reponame>
[09:38] <Groar> gonna reboot and try it
[09:38] <Groar> just uninstalled
[09:38]  * Groar crosses his fingers
[09:38] <geo27_> Oh ! Thanks ppf, I'll give it a try :-)
[09:47] <TzmFen> hi! sorry for very "noob" question here..  but when i do " do-release-upgrade' " will it retain everything in my system ?
[09:47] <TzmFen> so i dont need to start everything fresh etc
[09:55] <confluency> TzmFen: define "retain everything".
[09:56] <TzmFen> confluency:  like say my irssi confs, eggdrop confs, websites and stuff
[09:56] <confluency> TzmFen: it will upgrade your installed software to new versions from the next release.
[09:56] <confluency> TzmFen: yes, it isn't going to affect your user data.
[09:57] <confluency> TzmFen: sometimes app behaviour will change slightly because of an update to the app, but that's relatively uncommon.
[09:58] <TzmFen> this is coming from 16.04 lts to 18.04.1 lts
[09:58] <confluency> TzmFen: if package changes to global config conflict to your own changes, you'll get a message about it and you'll be able to decide what to do.
[09:59] <TzmFen> ah nice
[09:59] <TzmFen> never really done update on a server like this lol
[09:59] <confluency> If it's a server, I strongly suggest that you back up any global config you're worried about.
[10:00] <confluency> You also don't *have* to upgrade now; Xenial is still going to be supported for a while.
[10:00] <TzmFen> good call
[10:08] <hans_henrik> is the 17.10 repos still up?
[10:08] <ppf> hans_henrik: that's EOL
[10:08] <hans_henrik> i know, but is the repos still up?
[10:10] <ppf> the primary repos aren't, but it's still in the archives
[10:10] <ppf> archives.ubuntu.com
[10:13] <hans_henrik> so i'd need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list or whatever it was called?
[10:14] <ppf> yes
[10:14] <ppf> !eol | hans_henrik
[10:17] <naftilos76> Is nfs client working in 18.04?
[10:17] <naftilos76> It does not here
[10:18] <naftilos76> i have an error : mount.nfs: mount system call failed
[10:18] <naftilos76> after trying to mount a simple nfs share in my synology server. This worked fine in 14.04
[10:18] <ppf> naftilos76: showmount -e
[10:18] <naftilos76> why is everything going to hell?
[10:19] <ppf> because of the millenials!
[10:19] <ppf> oh, and christel of course
[10:19] <naftilos76> i get : clnt_create: RPC: Program not registered
[10:19] <naftilos76> what is this?
[10:19] <naftilos76> ppf: ?
[10:20] <ppf> have you installed nfs?
[10:20] <ppf> systemctl status nfs
[10:20] <naftilos76> nfs-common you mean? yes
[10:21] <ppf> portmap?
[10:21] <naftilos76> i get: Unit nfs.service could not be found.
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[10:21] <naftilos76> why?
[10:21] <naftilos76> it is a clean install
[10:22] <naftilos76> i just installed nfs-common, it should work
[10:22] <naftilos76> it did in 14.04
[10:23] <ppf> yeah, my bad it's nfs-common.service
[10:24] <ppf> have you installed portmap?
[10:25] <naftilos76> i get a weird message that rpcbing was selected instead and is already installed
[10:26] <ppf> systemctl status rpcbind
[10:26] <ppf> and what's the output of the status command above
[10:31] <usrX>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[10:33] <naftilos76> ppf: https://ibin.co/4CNgYRRYPN4c.png
[10:33] <ppf> okay,  what about the nfs status above?
[10:33] <H7R> o/
[10:34] <naftilos76> Loaded: masked (/dev/null; bad)
[10:34] <naftilos76> Active: inactive (dead)
[10:34] <naftilos76> ppf:
[10:34] <naftilos76> ^
[10:34] <ppf> nfs-common...
[10:35] <ppf> ah, okay
[10:35] <naftilos76> old technology?
[10:35] <ppf> try systemctl status 'nfs-*' then
[10:35] <naftilos76> :)
[10:35] <naftilos76> nfs-client.target - NFS client services
[10:35] <naftilos76>    Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/nfs-client.target; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
[10:35] <naftilos76>    Active: active since Thu 2018-08-16 13:07:03 EEST; 28min ago
[10:36] <ppf> !paste | naftilos76
[10:36] <ppf> full output please
[10:36] <naftilos76> ubottu: sorry will do
[10:36] <art_> Hallo! Has anybody any idea, why my WebStorm and PyCharm (Java based applications) won't start today? They ran until yesterday, I haven't updated them for weeks, but there was an Ubuntu update yesterday. 14.04 btw. Known issue/bug?
[10:39] <naftilos76> ppf: do you want me to re-pasteq
[10:39] <naftilos76> re-paste?
[10:39] <ppf> the full output of systemctl status 'nfs-*', yeah
[10:40] <naftilos76> ppf: 3 lines that's it the ones you see above ^
[10:40] <naftilos76> ppf: that is all i got
[10:41] <ppf> what about nfs-blkmap
[10:41] <ppf> nfs-client.target depends on that
[10:41] <ppf> at least on my machine
[10:41] <ppf> which ubuntu was this?
[10:42] <naftilos76> 18.04
[10:43] <esyede_> hello
[10:43] <Guest67907>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[10:45] <ppf> naftilos76: can you restart nfs-client.target
[10:46] <naftilos76> ppf: sudo service nfs-client.target restart ?
[10:46] <naftilos76> ppf: Failed to restart nfs-client.target.service: Unit nfs-client.target.service not found.
[10:46] <ppf> systemctl restart nfs-client.target
[10:46] <naftilos76> oh sorry
[10:47] <naftilos76> ppf: echo $? was 0
[10:47] <ppf> showmount -e
[10:48] <naftilos76> ppf: still => clnt_create: RPC: Program not registered
[10:49] <ppf> did that restart rpcbind as well?
[10:52] <naftilos76> ppf: RPCbind after "systemctl restart nfs-client.target" => https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2GtHdcYRGg/
[10:55] <ppf> can you run rpcinfo -p  on the server?
[11:06] <danboid> Could someone please spare me doing another install of 16.04 and tell me what version of the kernel is required to successfully install and build the kernel module for the latest 16.04 nvidia driver package (nvidia-384)?
[11:11] <hans_henrik> i can't mount an ext3 partition with -o allow_other
[11:12] <hans_henrik> oh lol, nvm, i wrote `-o allow_other`  instead of `-O allow_other` (uppercase O)
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> danboid: can you explain whats going on with your nvidia driver?
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> good evening ioria
[11:32] <ioria> lotuspsychje, hallo
[11:33] <ioria> lotuspsychje, already evening  there ?
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> ioria: nono its 13h33 here, support going slow
[11:33] <ioria> lotuspsychje, ok :)
[11:35] <ELQEYNN> How did the Zulus, of all people, invent their own Linux distro?
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> ELQEYNN: please dont
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> ELQEYNN: only ubuntu support here
[11:38] <wind> there seems to be some generic #linux channel on freenode
[11:39] <JimBuntu> ##linux
[11:45] <Galactor> how does one access a samba shared folder on the network (different machine) via terminal? has a username and password
[11:45] <ioria> smbclient
[11:45] <naftilos76> ppf: the server is a synology server based on a busybox linux . I don't think rpcinfo exists there, do you?
[11:46] <ELQEYNN> I'm reading on the Internet something about the "philophy of ubuntu" which was some kind of humanistic religion.
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> ELQEYNN: its offtopic here
[11:46] <Galactor> ioria, does smbclient have an interface? or is it command input only?
[11:47] <ioria> Galactor, you can use nautilus + smb syntax
[11:48] <Galactor> iora, is Nautilus a file explorer?
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> art_: details/logs/errors from your crashing packages please?
[11:48] <ioria> Galactor, yes
[11:49] <ppf> naftilos76: then try rpcinfo -p <server>
[11:49] <Galactor> iora, do you know if of will work with ranger? Im ultimately hoping to connect so I can stream my music using cmus but also access the files on the network drive
[11:49] <leftyfb> ELQEYNN: you've been told 5 times from 5 different people across 4 months that this is a support channel. Stop trolling. Take it elsewhere.
[11:50] <art_> Hallo! Has anybody any idea, why my WebStorm and PyCharm (Java based applications) won't start today? They ran until yesterday, I haven't updated them for weeks, but there was an Ubuntu update yesterday. 14.04 btw. Known issue/bug?
[11:50] <ioria> Galactor, idk ranger... look for 'connect to server' option or menu
[11:50] <Galactor> iora, can do! thanks for your time and help :)
[11:50] <naftilos76> ppf: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6fJDrQNm65/
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> art_: errors from your apps?
[11:51] <ioria> Galactor, no prob
[11:54] <art_> lotuspsychje: where to look for those? Starting the java command that is generated via a bash script that is called via the launcher gives nothing
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> art_: your scripts started from cron?
[11:56] <art_> lotuspsychje: no
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> art_: well we need something to see whats going on, syslog,dmesg, take a look in your /var/log/...?
[11:59] <art_> lotuspsychje: syslog seems to have something relevant ...
[11:59] <art_> lotuspsychje: sec
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> art_: hastebin to the channel please, volunteers can have a look this way
[12:03] <art_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Z5HQX4h3hC/
[12:03] <art_> "java: Corrupted page table at address" Is this broken RAM?
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[12:07] <ioria> art_, what's the problem ? Java programs won't start ?
[12:09] <art_> ioria: Hi! Yes, syslog show bad stuff: Corrupted page table at address
[12:09] <art_> Is this a kernel issue?
[12:09] <ioria> art_, i see that.... can you try another kernel ?
[12:10] <naftilos76> ppf: did you see my paste?
[12:10] <EriC^^> +1
[12:10] <art_> ioria: I guess, never done that before ...
[12:10] <ioria> art_,  from the grub screen  -> Advanced Options
[12:10] <EriC^^> art_: is the system updated fully? sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[12:12] <art_> Will full-upgrade perform a dist-upgrade? Then no, it's Ubuntu 14.04
[12:13] <ioria> art_,  you need to reboot and press 'shift' to enter the grub screenù
[12:13] <art_> ioria: Will try that. at the moment "apt upgrade" install some intel-microcode. Will see what that brings ...
[12:15] <naftilos76> Is anybody using nfs-common in your workstation to mount nfs shares in a local server?
[12:16] <art_> ioria,EriC^^: I'm rebooting into the current kernel after intel-microcode update now ... Thanks for the help so far!
[12:16] <ioria> art_,  ok
[12:19] <Guest70881> did u know that windows 10 tries to sneakily install adobe flash by default. one cannot see it with appwiz.cpl or even powershell smh
[12:25] <fuseteam> and uh get error 2002 on the second server
[12:27] <naftilos76> ppf: are you there?
[12:28] <naftilos76> ppf: Problem solved. I should have defined nfs version in fstab. See here: https://cweiske.de/tagebuch/nfs-mount-error-eio.htm
[12:29] <haker> kto z polski?
[12:29] <EriC^^> !pl | haker
[12:29] <haker> ok
[12:29] <haker> hello
[12:30] <art_> ioria,EriC^^: OK, I'm back. The intel-microcode install did not help, starting Pycharm yielded basically the same error in syslog. Booted into kernel ..-153 instead of ..-155 now, and the apps do start. Where should I report this? I guess it is not a Ubuntu issue?
[12:30] <ioria> art_,  i guess it's a kernel issue
[12:31] <ioria> art_,  may i ask you why don't you enable the hwe ?
[12:32] <EriC^^> !bugs | art_
[12:32] <art_> ioria: the woot? :)
[12:32] <EriC^^> art_: i think you can report it using "ubuntu-bug linux-image-......153-generic"
[12:32] <EriC^^> i mean 155
[12:32] <ioria> art_,  you're on a quite old system
[12:32] <art_> EriC^^: thx, I'll see into that
[12:33] <EriC^^> art_: hwe is hardware enablement stack, it lets the lts releases use newer kernel + xorg bundles
[12:33] <EriC^^> !hwe | art_ more info here
[12:33] <tomay> hello
[12:33] <ioria> art_,  trusty 14.04 will end in few months
[12:34] <EriC^^> hi tomay
[12:34] <tomay> whats up with auto hibernation on critical power (using UPower) under ubuntu 18.04!?
[12:34] <art_> ioria: yeah, high time to switch to 18, I know ...
[12:34] <tomay> it is no longer triggered
[12:34] <ioria> art_,  16.04 will be enought
[12:35] <ioria> *-t
[12:38] <gunix> is there a link to minimal install of ubuntu desktop?
[12:38] <gunix> cause i want to install with i3wm, not gnome or something else, so i don't need anything special... i can decide myself what i install
[12:38] <ioria> --no-install-recommends
[12:39] <ELQEYNN> gunix, what sort of stuff?
[12:41] <art_> OK, the thing is known: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1787127
[12:43] <ioria> art_, yes, as i said you need : 1) the hwe  2) fresh install  of 16.4/18.04 3) wait for the fix
[12:44] <pragmaticenigma> gunix: You can use the mini.iso which by default only installs the minimal needed packages to get a system up and running. Within the installer you can also select packages to install up front, though I usually stick to the base install and use apt after I know the system is running.
[12:44] <pragmaticenigma> gunix: It will install Ubuntu in a CLI version at first, you can easily install a GUI and set that up to be the default interface
[12:45] <pragmaticenigma> gunix: Or pick one of the other lightweight DEs temporarily until you install i3wm
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:06] <zenox> hi
[13:07] <zenox> i'm trying to build a static version of some source code. i'm configuring with "./configure LDFLAGS="-static" --prefix="/path/to/output" but it's still adding include,lib,share dirs - what am i doing wrong?
[13:13] <onio_> does anyone know how to stop meld from automatically expanding all tree as I am spending a lot of time collapsing them which is not very pleaant
[13:14] <ducasse> zenox: you mean they are added to the prefix?
[13:15] <zenox> ducasse, all the files are put inside prefix yes but i thought it'd be one binary, not with lots of .h files in the include dir?
[13:16] <ducasse> zenox: .h files are not binaries
[13:17] <zenox> ducasse, also, the application is trying to access a file the absolute prefix dir, it is possible so it can look in a relative dir?
[13:17] <zenox> ducasse, i know, i thought they'd be included inside the binary
[13:17] <gunix> pragmaticenigma: i will search the mini.iso
[13:18] <ducasse> zenox: that's not how it works, they will be installed alongside the binary
[13:20] <zenox> ducasse, ok thanks, one more q, atm the application is searching for a file in prefix/foo/bar, but as i'd like to include this application with a library, i'd rather it use ./foo/bar. is that possible?
[13:20] <gunix> there seems to be only a minimal iso from the community, not officla
[13:20] <gunix> only small stuff is the server installer
[13:20] <gunix> afiak the server has some different flags in the kernel
[13:21] <ducasse> gunix: no, same kernel
[13:23] <ducasse> zenox: i think you'd need to change either the code or how it is built for that
[13:23] <ducasse> !mini | gunix
[13:27] <pragmaticenigma> onio_: Meld does not have that option available. Meld only expands directories where a change is detected within. If meld is flagging a bunch of files without changes, consider using rsync to syncronize the timestamps on the files. That should reduce the number of differences detected.
[13:29] <onio_> pragmaticenigma, thanks
[13:30] <pragmaticenigma> onio_: being that meld is written in Python, you might have a go at finding the block of code for auto expansion and see if you can disable it.
[13:32] <onio_> pragmaticenigma: I am not well grown up in Python moreover I have other issues that I am trying to resolve and that would just take me of course
[13:34] <onio_> pragmaticenigma: I am sure it is expanding the directory with changes but these are changes I am not interested in which means I just to have to go through close directories. I am currently looking at qt5base everywhere source tree
[13:34] <zenox> ok thanks ducasse
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[13:43] <tomer> Hello, I need help. I updated from 17.10 to 18.04 and now I get a non-reactive black screen (with a frozen cursor top-left) instead of the lightdm login screen. I can use the other ttys to log in non-graphically.
[13:44] <tomer> I tried reinstalling lightdm, as I read that there was an issue with that during upgrades to 18.04, but that didn't have any effect.
[13:46] <tarzeau__> tomer: checked /var/log/X*log ?
[13:46] <tarzeau__> tomer: nvidia or nouveau driver?
[13:47] <tarzeau__> tomer: which kernel? which nvidia card?
[13:48] <tomer> tarzeau__: nvidia driver, checked that log yesterday and don't recall finding anything unusual. will check again, one sec. Kernel 4.15.0-32
[13:48] <domino14> i'm trying to listen to Toto's cover of Weezer's "Hash Pipe", so i typed the relevant search term into Google, and the billboard.com article about it hard freezes my chrome browser
[13:49] <domino14> and the entire computer seemingly. I have Ubuntu 18.04, it's the year 2018, and I still cannot get a good user experience surfing the web. Clearly something is really wrong here
[13:49] <domino14> i had to hold down the power button
[13:49] <domino14> This is a pretty beefy Dell laptop
[13:52] <tomer> tarzeau__: Xorg.0.log (from just now) looks ok to me. But In dmesg I find the following  "nvidia: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel". Is that a just about loading proprietary code, i.e. not an issue?
[13:52] <domino14> anyone know how to make chrome not randomly lock up my computer?
[13:52] <domino14> and more importantly, how to listen to Toto's cover of Hash Pipe?
[13:53] <pragmaticenigma> domino14: Switch to another web browser and see if the problem persists. There are current active attacks against web browsers that will cause it to lock up the browser and freezing the computer.
[13:54] <tomer> tarzeau__: btw, I tried "nomodeset" already, no luck.
[13:54] <domino14> the pitchfork article about it also started to lock up the computer but i was able to X out of it
[13:54] <pragmaticenigma> domino14: Make sure you are using the latest updates for your system. Both Firefox and Chrome have had several updates released in the past couple days
[13:55] <domino14> i have the latest version of Chrome
[13:55] <domino14> i've never had this happen on my mac, but this happens semi-frequently on ubuntu w/chrome
[13:57] <Smilex> Hey. I deleted everything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d and then did apt update, but when I try to install pulseaudio, it tries to pull in libjack-jackd2-0, which shouldn't be a dependency
[13:57] <pragmaticenigma> domino14: Unfortunatly, because Google Chrome is provided via their own PPA Repository, this channel is not able to assist further with supporting it. My recommendation is to install Chromium and see if the problem happens there (Chromium is available in the main Ubuntu PPA channels)
[13:57] <Smilex> I think I get it as a dependency because I used to have kxstudio repositories
[13:58] <Smilex> Infact I just upgraded to ubuntu 18, and I would like for it to reset more of my stuff. How can I do that?
[13:59] <pragmaticenigma> Smilex: Before removing 3rd party PPAs, did you uninstall packages that were being provided there?
[14:00] <Smilex> pragmaticenigma: no
[14:01] <pragmaticenigma> Smilex: Did you make a back up of the folder before deleting everything that was in the sources folder?
[14:01] <Smilex> pragmaticenigma: No
[14:02] <Smilex> Sorry, but I'm frusterated with the amount of issues I've had to deal with
[14:03] <pragmaticenigma> Smilex: It's possibly going to get worse
[14:03] <pragmaticenigma> Smilex: The best I can offer is try running "sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get clean all" to see if that clears out the cache. If not... you might need to try and reinstall all those PPAs you removed, purge the packages, then remove the PPAs
[14:04] <Smilex> In that case I just give up, and I'll proceed with a unclean system
[14:05] <pragmaticenigma> Smilex: After the apt-get clean commands, use "sudo apt-get update" which will re-pull the current repos, and dependencies. Then run "sudo apt-get upgrade" to see if anything will update to the Ubuntu channels
[14:05] <Smilex> nothing happened
[14:05] <pragmaticenigma> Smilex: Depending on what you installed from those PPAs, that's a dangerous approach
[14:06] <Smilex> well this system is a lost cause
[14:06] <Smilex> it also takes forever to start up, and I have no idea why
[14:08] <pragmaticenigma> Smilex: If it were me, I'd recommend backing up your data, personal files, configuration files (/etc, /home, /var) to an external drive. Then start fresh
[14:10] <Smilex> pragmaticenigma: that's a future plan
[14:12] <Carbonme> Is Mycroft desktop a good desktop assistant, like for opening programs? Anyone have experience with it?
[14:14] <pragmaticenigma> Carbonme: This channel is best suited for support type questions. Such as, "I can get X program to work" Recommendations and discussion about software should take place in the #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss rooms. Be sure to check room topics to make sure you're in the correct channel.
[14:15] <Carbonme> pragmaticenigma: Thank you I will
[14:15] <leftyfb> Carbonme: gnome has a "desktop assistant" built in which provides the same functionality
[14:16] <Carbonme> Leftyfb: with voice
[14:16] <leftyfb> oh
[14:16] <pragmaticenigma> domino14: for your reference: https://it.slashdot.org/story/18/08/15/2149227/google-patches-chrome-bug-that-lets-attackers-steal-web-secrets-via-audio-or-video-html-tags?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed
[14:17] <pragmaticenigma> domino14: for your reference: https://it.slashdot.org/story/18/08/15/2149227/google-patches-chrome-bug-that-lets-attackers-steal-web-secrets-via-audio-or-video-html-tags
[14:18] <ioria> Carbonme, https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1197/mycroft-assistant/
[14:19] <Carbonme> ioria: Thanks, just got to love gnome3
[14:20] <ioria> Carbonme, ok
[14:31] <whoami_CLAY> on?
[14:34] <tomreyn> whoami_CLAY: can you please meet elsewhere
[14:40] <domino14> so billboard.com is trying to steal my info?
[14:40] <tomay> zero support here
[14:42] <tomer> Can anyone help me? I get a black login screen using nvidia propr. drivers, but with nouveau my display doesn't get detected properly (tiny resolutions available only)
[14:43] <tomer> I tried a lot to get propr. drivers working, but no luck.
[14:43] <pragmaticenigma> domino14: Not likely, there are malicious ads being served through the advertisementing networks that billboard.com is using
[14:44] <tomer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390/+bug/1752053 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390/+bug/1773113
[14:45] <tomreyn> tomay: it works like this: if one of us volunteers has the time and energy AND the knowledge about what you asked about they may get back to you on it. if not, not. have you tried filing a bug report?
[14:47] <leftyfb> domino14: you have yet to say if you have the same issue with Firefox
[14:48] <domino14> @leftyfb no the issue did not happen with Firefox
[14:48] <domino14> but after restarting my computer who knows if it's still there with chrome
[14:55] <bieb> is there a linux equivalent to Teamviewer? I know I can ssh to a box, but I need to see the gui on a box that will be a couple buildings away from me
[14:55] <ryuo> bieb: VNC, but there's no sound.
[14:55] <bieb> ryuo: thanks!! no sound needed
[14:56] <pragmaticenigma> bieb: VNC works, though you either have to have an authenticated/active session live on the remote host. Or you can setup remote frame buffer session and VNC to that. Also, if you need a single app, you can use XForwarding over SSH to bring the GUI to you. The application runs on the remote system
[14:57] <leftyfb> bieb: teamviewer works on ubuntu
[14:57] <ryuo> pragmaticenigma: i mentioned VNC because it's the closest to what they wanted. a "remote desktop" thingie.
[14:58] <bieb> leftyfb: thanks!
[14:58] <bieb> pragmaticenigma: thanks for the info, I will look at that also
[14:58] <leftyfb> ryuo: nope, teamviewer is the closest to what they wanted ;)
[14:58] <ryuo> leftyfb: right... <.<
[14:59] <pragmaticenigma> bieb: I understand, I have found VNC getting more and more difficult to setup with changes to the various Desktop Managers, and some Desktop Environments
[14:59] <pragmaticenigma> not to mention the bugginess of Vino (why that is installed I don't think I will ever understand)
[14:59] <pragmaticenigma> Vino and Vinagre
[15:00] <bieb> pragmaticenigma: vino and vinagre get installed with vnc?
[15:00] <pragmaticenigma> bieb: No
[15:01] <pragmaticenigma> bieb: They implement the VNC protocol
[15:01] <mdlpe> hi, how to make for example : LL = ls -l ? I do that in the past but i didn't remember how to ?
[15:01] <pragmaticenigma> VNC is a protocol... RealVNC, TightVNC, TigreVNC are all client/software implementations
[15:01] <bieb> pragmaticenigma: ahh I see.. misunderstood what you had posted
[15:01] <leftyfb> bieb: you do realized, unlike teamviewer, both ssh and VNC require you to poke holes in your firewall right?
[15:01] <pragmaticenigma> mdlpe: you are looking for "alias"
[15:02] <leftyfb> mdlpe: ~/.bash_aliases
[15:02] <bieb> leftyfb: gotcha
[15:02] <mdlpe> pragmaticenigma: yes a shortcut to only type LL for ls -l
[15:02] <JimBuntu> mdlpe, alias LL='ls -l' ?
[15:02] <pragmaticenigma> JimBuntu: That doesn't make it persistant though
[15:03] <leftyfb> mdlpe: are you sure you aren't looking for ll, not LL?
[15:03] <JimBuntu> put that command in ~/.bashrc or such
[15:03] <leftyfb> mdlpe: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/aliases.html
[15:03] <mdlpe> pragmaticenigma: fine ! it is this alias...
[15:03] <pragmaticenigma> mdlpe: leftyfb has a good point, if you are looking to alias "ls -l" ... Ubuntu already defines "ll" for that. no need to make your own
[15:04] <mdlpe> and how to remove the alias ?
[15:04] <pragmaticenigma> mdlpe: If it was for the session, when you logout, it will go away
[15:04] <mdlpe> pragmaticenigma: and if I want the same alias every time I log in ?
[15:05] <pragmaticenigma> mdlpe: if you add it to ~/.bash_aliases ... you need only remove that line, next session it will no longer be available
[15:05] <mdlpe> pragmaticenigma: ok tanks a lot
[15:05] <Ubu-1604> question : I'm trying to get this computer to run as 'root' to run Zenmap, I am constantly getting this error ... TCP/IP fingerprinting (for OS scan) requires root privileges .. I have setup a root 'su' via that terminal program, and even tried to assign root privs to this current logon .. nothing is working , using Ubuntu 16.04.5
[15:06] <pragmaticenigma> Ubu-1604: are you installing the zenmap package provided through Ubuntu repositories?
[15:08] <Ubu-1604> pragmaticenigma: yes .. which kinda bugs me since I wanted the latest vertion, so I got nmap and zenmap version 7.70 .. but when I opened the .DEB file with the software installer it forced it to install 7.01 instead :\
[15:09] <Ubu-1604> pragmaticenigma: i also tried to do this right click on the APPLICATIONS menu, since I found some web sites explaining how to run zenmap (or any programs) .. but there is no right click option .. I can't see this  'applications menu' in ubuntu
[15:09] <pragmaticenigma> Ubu-1604: The latest version isn't always the best version in the Linux world. Ubuntu packages strive for stability, the newer version may provide a new desired feature, however, it may not be stable enough for Ubuntu to include it.
[15:09] <pragmaticenigma> Ubu-1604: before installing the Ubuntu supplied version, did you purge the other one?
[15:09] <leftyfb> Ubu-1604: why are you trying to do with?
[15:10] <leftyfb> er
[15:10] <leftyfb> Ubu-1604: why are you trying to do this?
[15:10] <Ubu-1604> pragmaticenigma: there was no other version to purge .. I didn't see Nmap was included in the first place
[15:11] <Ubu-1604> leftyfb: I want to see what open ports and current IP connections are happening on this computer .. windoze has some really simple GUIS that show this .. ubuntu has nothing, so I was going to try this nmap/zenmap thing .. was maybe going to try Wireshark but that looks totally overkill
[15:12] <leftyfb> Ubu-1604: sudo nmap -P0 <ip of target>
[15:12] <gt8ost4l> i need help office libre opens twice on the dock on ubuntu 18.04 can anybody help me?
[15:12] <Ubu-1604> leftyfb: i want the GUI interfrace which is why i installed Zenmap
[15:12] <JimBuntu> sudo netstat -tunelp
[15:13] <leftyfb> Ubu-1604: why? You only need to see the open ports. Why do you need those few numbers surrounded by a fancy window?
[15:13] <Ubu-1604> leftyfb: maybe you missing the point .. i want to see ALL current open connections, open data ports and to which IP adresses .. I obviosly do NOT know what ip addresses are open so using <ip of target> is not an option obviosly
[15:14] <Ubu-1604> lefty .. WHAT is the commant to see all the open data ports ANBD the ip addresses that have them open then?
[15:14] <tomreyn> Ubu-1604: so nmap is the wrong utility for what you're trying to achieve. see what JimBuntu wrote
[15:14] <leftyfb> Ubu-1604: you mean on your entire network?
[15:15] <leftyfb> Ubu-1604: sudo nmap 192.168.1.0/24
[15:15] <leftyfb> Ubu-1604: all of this is found on nmap's website and google
[15:16] <Ubu-1604> tomreyn: K i'll look into netstat .. thanks :))) .. is there a web page that lists some of there handy network programs like 'netstat' .. All the ubuntu has is wireshark (which I don't need a packet sniffer) in thier 'software installer'
[15:16] <tomreyn> "ss -nto state listening" is an alternative to netstat
[15:16] <gt8ost4l> tomreyn, i have a bone to pick with you
[15:17] <leftyfb> gt8ost4l: that's not how you request support for ubuntu
[15:18] <tomreyn> Ubu-1604: you keep claiming that the network inspection utilities available for ubuntu are inferior than those windows provides. i know both, and i can assure you those of ubuntu and any linux distribution are, by far, better.
[15:18] <gt8ost4l> leftyfb, sorry
[15:18] <Ubu-1604> JimBuntu: Yup that's exatly what I was looking for  :) .. now i'm checking to see how i can close connection ... a GUI for netstat would be nice
[15:18] <tomreyn> Ubu-1604: maybe you just haven't spent enough time trying to research this, yet
[15:19] <leftyfb> Ubu-1604: step #1, with regards to linux security tools, forget about GUI
[15:19] <Ubu-1604> tomreyn: Well it would be nice to find a web page that SHOWS all these nice tools I can download .. that 'Ubuntu Software' icon lists WIRESHARK and that's it ... where can I find these programs .. even the SNAP store doesn't show much .. maybe the packages.ubuntu place?
[15:20] <leftyfb> Ubu-1604: It sounds like you're trying to utilize linux security tools without first understanding some of the basic security fundamentals and even linux fundamentals of linux. It sounds like you need to do a lot more reading and research as tomreyn touched on
[15:20] <Ubu-1604> leftyfb: click IP you want closed .. right click / close connection ... VERY simple .. not command like type type type to close connectrions
[15:20] <leftyfb> Ubu-1604: what is your end goal here? Why do you need a scan of every ip and open port on your network?
[15:21] <Ubu-1604> leftyfb: end goal is to make all netwrk activity STOP after I close the web browser .. or even when it's running but idle i can see it has open data connectrion with web sites i want closed .. I do this in windowze all the time ... ever close your web browser and STILL see your network light blinking?
[15:22] <leftyfb> Ubu-1604: btw, "windowze" is not a product by any company
[15:22] <pragmaticenigma> Ubu-1604: If you are planning any future in Computer/Network security. you will have to become comfortable with the command line tools. The GUIs are great for presenting data, but they fall very short of useful for managing security.
[15:22] <Ubu-1604> anyway .. that netstat is the info i was looking for
[15:22] <JimBuntu> Ubu-1604, if you are still wanting zenmap, here is how to fix it up - https://askubuntu.com/questions/118822/how-to-launch-application-as-root-from-unity-launcher
[15:22] <leftyfb> Ubu-1604: unplug your ethernet cable or turn off your wifi radio
[15:23] <JimBuntu> Ubu-1604, another option, depending on how serious you are... click the network manager icon in the top right of your bar/panel, uncheck Enable networking
[15:23] <leftyfb> Ubu-1604: bottom line, you have a LOT more learning and understand to do in order to even grasp what you think you want at the moment
[15:24] <Ubu-1604> JimBuntu: reading that web url now .. thanks
[15:27] <Ubu-1604> JimBuntu: have a look at this and tell me HOW I get to this 'applications menu' in ubuntu .. I have not seen that before and I can't figure out how to get to the MENU .. when I right click on the 'search your computer icon' all I can get is 'Applications' .. no nice menu like they are showing.
[15:27] <Ubu-1604> JimBuntu: https://tokyoimage.wordpress.com/2010/12/22/how-to-launch-zenmap-as-root-from-the-ubuntu-applications-menu/
[15:27] <Iarfen> hi!
[15:28] <JimBuntu> Ubu-1604, ancient article, not like that in 16.04
[15:28] <leftyfb> Ubu-1604: what is shown on that page is Gnome Classic. Not Unity
[15:28] <leftyfb> Ubu-1604: https://www.debugpoint.com/2016/04/install-classic-gnome-flashback-in-ubuntu-16-04-replacing-unity/
[15:28] <JimBuntu> ^^  That's why I gave you the instructions for 16.04 stock
[15:29] <Ubu-1604> oh ... well it would be nice to get to the 'properties' of icons in the launch bar .. all I get is LOCK/UNLOCK from launch bar ... oh well :)
[15:30] <tomreyn> different desktop environments work in different way. you seem to look for something like xubuntu
[15:30] <leftyfb> tomreyn: it's gnome classic
[15:30] <leftyfb> or "flashback"
[15:31] <gt8ost4l> leftyfb, ill break it down for you for you to better understand my frustration
[15:32] <gt8ost4l> leftyfb, i changed the userland from ubuntu to waland in ubuntu on the login page because the main userland was laggy
[15:33] <Ubu-1604> JimBuntu: ahhh yes thats a good web page on askubuntu .. I did setup/activate the root su account so I'm sure this should be easy enuf to get working . thanks.
[15:33] <ppf> with userland you mean the graphical shell?
[15:33] <gt8ost4l> and guess what i was greeted i opened libre office writer and when it open i get the default libre office icon on the ubuntu dock not libre office writer
[15:34] <Sylvain_255> Hi
[15:34] <Sylvain_255> look at http://sylvain-ard.fr/temp/leaflets.jpg I have a problem with the leaflets recovery
[15:34] <JimBuntu> Ubu-1604, yw.
[15:35] <Sylvain_255> the original image is here : http://sylvain-ard.fr/temp/16881.jpg
[15:35] <Sylvain_255> cracky advise me to use transfer learning
[15:36] <Sylvain_255> but not we get rectangles instead of the real contours of the leaflets by this method ?
[15:36] <pragmaticenigma> Sylvain_255: This isn't the best forum for that topic. You should seek out a channel dedicated to the application you are using for better assistance
[15:39] <Ubu-1604> cute .. I suppose no onle else does 16.04 here .. but the Ubuntu software updater now constatly says .. 'computer up to date .. BUT Ubuntu 18.04.1 is available .. click 'UPGRADE' button now please.
[15:40] <leftyfb> Ubu-1604: A lot of people run 16.04, including myself. Not sure why you made that assumption.
[15:40] <ppf> isn't that what you'd expect?
[15:41] <pragmaticenigma> Ubu-1604: Please don't generalize or bash other users.
[15:46] <guiverc> Ubu-1604, I just looked at my message (Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Unity) - it states "The software on this computer is up to date. However Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS is now available (you have 16.04).  Settings  Upgrade  Ok" - it doesn't say upgrade now please; it gives me the option to change settings, upgrade to just OK message.
[15:46] <Ubu-1604> how do I change a read only file (.desktop file) ... It's read only and ROOT can only change it.
[15:47] <compdoc> Ubu-1604, run nautilus as root, and change the permissions
[15:48] <compdoc> and ownership
[15:48] <ppf> yeah probably not a good idea
[15:49] <Ubu-1604> guiverc: then why is the upgrade button right next to the OK button? ... sure seems kinda forceful to me .. what if I miss hitting OK .. franticly hit the power button?
[15:49] <JimBuntu> Ubu-1604, sudo nano    the .desktop file
[15:49] <ppf> Ubu-1604: it'll ask you if you're sure half a dozen times ...
[15:49] <JimBuntu> or you could gksudo gedit     the file
[15:49] <Ubu-1604> JimBuntu: ok thanks .. I don;t really want to run stuff as root anyway, just to get this Nmap gui working cause it looks useful.
[15:50] <guiverc> Ubu-1604, the upgrade is near to the ok button, there is space between (ie. not next to, but near in my opinion)
[15:51] <JimBuntu> Ubu-1604, right. The change I suggested is only for this app, and only when started from that .desktop file.
[15:52] <Ubu-1604> JimBuntu: soooo try sudo gedit in terminal? .. the program i was trying to use to change that .desktop file was gedit ... I thought there was another like VI or something I could use.
[15:53] <JimBuntu> Ubu-1604, you could simply use nano... sudo nano /path/to/filename.desktop or gksudo gedit /path/to/filename.desktop
[15:55] <sunIsShining> hey there my man pages in termainl seems borked and nothing on the internet makes sense how I can fix it I get this  Manual page kpcli(1) line ?/? (END) (press h for help or q to quit)man: nroff: Bad system call (core dumped)
[15:55] <sunIsShining> when ever I try to call man [something]
[15:57] <ppf> sunIsShining: which ubuntu?
[15:57] <pragmaticenigma> !details | sunIsShining
[15:57] <ppf> sunIsShining: apt show man-db
[15:57] <LostSoul> Hi
[15:57] <LostSoul> I was wondering, has anyone here tried to connect PAM with AWS IAM module? So that user that is in group X is allowed to SSH to machine?
[15:59] <distrax> Has anyone attempted the 16.04 to 18.04 upgrade on a server with plex, sonarr, deluge, nginx, etc?
[15:59] <pragmaticenigma> distrax: do you have a specific issue you're experiencing?
[16:00] <compdoc> distrax, I tried upgrading before I was supposed to, and it completely borked my system. be sure to back up
[16:00] <sunIsShining> https://pastebin.com/EiUruwVL
[16:00] <sunIsShining> Here is paste to my set up and issue https://pastebin.com/EiUruwVL
[16:00] <pragmaticenigma> compdoc: Please avoid doing that. Bug fixes were recently released, what may have happened before may not still be true now.
[16:01] <distrax> I haven't tried yet. Was wondering if there's something I should be expecting.
[16:02] <tomreyn> sunIsShining: i suggest you purge, then reinstall man-db
[16:02] <pragmaticenigma> distrax: typical suggestion always applies. Back up your data!
[16:02] <pragmaticenigma> distrax: beyond that, the tool shouldn't experience anymore issues. If you're the cautious type, I'd wait a few more weeks if you don't urgently need to update
[16:03] <tomreyn> sunIsShining: if this doesn't fix it, look at the output of "ubuntu-support-status" and run the forign_packages script available from https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts
[16:03] <Ubu-1604> JimBuntu: it's ok, I did temrinal and changed to 'su' root and I changed the .desktop file with Gedit ... Zemap runs fine now .. odd it's not asking for the 'root' password I made, doesn't matter, I don't get the root priv anymore .. thanks for the help .. that .desktop applications are I was always wondering where it was :)
[16:04] <tomreyn> sunIsShining: also, maybe first of all, take a look at the recent (bottom) lines output by the 'dmesg -T' command, see if anything there looks like they could be storage related errors.
[16:04] <pragmaticenigma> distrax: most of the issues in the upgrade tool were related to GUI elements. server, wasn't experiencing issues.
[16:04] <sunIsShining> to late tomryen already reinstalling man-db
[16:05] <tomreyn> sunIsShining: well you can still do it later or in parallel, doesn't matter
[16:05] <sunIsShining> so apt purge and install stil same issue
[16:05] <ppf> apt show man-db
[16:05] <ppf> and dmesg -T
[16:06] <pragmaticenigma> ppf: Can you please use full phrases.. you're fragments are going to be confusing to others and to the requestor of help
[16:06] <ppf> you again :p
[16:08] <arpad2> hello
[16:09] <sunIsShining> tomreyn the dmesg -T command is there any senstaive data in that output?
[16:09] <ppf> sunIsShining: it's possible
[16:09] <Griznah> Hello. I'm running Server 16.04 LTS and tried do-release-upgrade to get 18.04 LTS, but I got a python error and now I can't continue: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JQ5p37mVYc/
[16:10] <ppf> just look at the last lines of the output, does anything stick out?
[16:10] <arpad2> my Xubuntu 18.04 gives error message during boot
[16:10] <sunIsShining> I think this is it   apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="man_groff" name="/opt/eset/esets/lib/libesets_pac.so" pid=2463   I think this might mean eset is blockign man call
[16:11] <tomreyn> LostSoul: not pam, but should have the same effect, i guess. if there's a key, user can login, if not, not. https://cloudonaut.io/manage-aws-ec2-ssh-access-with-iam/ - such questions should probably be asked in #aws, though.
[16:11] <sunIsShining> or maybe thats nto right might be this  type=1400 audit(1534435682.379:166): apparmor="DENIED" operation="connect" profile="/usr/bin/man" pid=24634 comm="nroff" family="unix" sock_type="stream" protocol=0 requested_mask="send receive connect" denied_mask="send connect" addr=none
[16:11] <ppf> Griznah: did you do anything to apt? like install a ppa or something?
[16:12] <EriC^^> sunIsShining: which mandb version do you have?
[16:12] <sunIsShining> and apt show man gives a load of out put Package: man-db
[16:12] <sunIsShining> Version: 2.8.3-2
[16:12] <sunIsShining> Priority: standard
[16:12] <pragmaticenigma> ppf: Does the upgrade tool run on Python3? Ubuntu 16.04 used Python2.x by default
[16:12] <ppf> pragmaticenigma: tools can still use python3 though
[16:13] <Griznah> I might've done some py2/py3 stuff
[16:13] <Griznah> no ppa's
[16:13] <Griznah> I
[16:13] <pragmaticenigma> ppf: okay, wasn't sure if the default interpreter on the system was changed, if that might be the cause
[16:14] <EriC^^> sunIsShining: what does "ls -l `readlink -f /bin/sh`" give?
[16:14] <Griznah> 'python' links to "Python 2.7.15rc1" at least
[16:14] <arpad2> is there any way to recover if the system doesn't boot or only fresh install is the solution? thanks
[16:15] <ppf> Griznah, pragmaticenigma: DistUpgrade.py is just the ui updater
[16:15] <ppf> Griznah: you can use apt from the terminal still
[16:15] <zmachine>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[16:15] <ppf> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[16:15] <EriC^^> arpad2: why is it not booting? what is the backstory?
[16:15] <Griznah> ppf: it's a headless server, I'm using iKVM
[16:16] <ppf> Griznah: when does this error occur then
[16:16] <sunIsShining> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 121432 Jan 25  2018 /bin/dash
[16:16] <LostSoul> tomreyn: Thanks
[16:16] <LostSoul> But #aws doesn't exist
[16:16] <LostSoul> AS far as I can see :)
[16:16] <tomreyn> !rescue | arpad2
[16:17] <sunIsShining> I tried sudo on man as well and same error
[16:17] <tomreyn> arpad2: but tell us about the issues you see first of all
[16:17] <EriC^^> sunIsShining: can you run "dpkg -l man-db; arch" and paste in http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:17] <tomreyn> Griznah: you could also ask in #ubuntu-server - less busy than here
[16:17] <Griznah> ppf: when I do 'do-release-upgrade'. It started at first, gave me a question about /etc/sysctl.conf (I've disabled ipv6 and tweaked raid), and then I got that error
[16:18] <Griznah> tomreyn: ty
[16:18] <ice9> bionic doesn't use wayland?
[16:18] <EriC^^> ice9: it's optional/testing
[16:19] <sunIsShining> man https://pastebin.com/m9VuZJJS
[16:19] <arpad2> EriC^^: the last line during booting is: Started GNOME Display Manager....and deal with any system changes.pp link was shut down
[16:19] <pragmaticenigma> ice9: Wayland is still under heavy active development and hasn't reached feature parity with X11. you can select a Wayland session at the login screen.
[16:20] <arpad2> EriC^^: ....
[16:21] <arpad2> ubottu: what to do in recovery mode?
[16:22] <Griznah> ppf: Thanks! Stuff is happening now, I'm trying 'apt full-upgrade' and not 'do-release-upgrade'
[16:23] <tomreyn> arpad2: give this a try: https://askubuntu.com/questions/641642/gui-does-not-start
[16:23] <tomreyn> (first answer)
[16:24] <EriC^^> arpad2: did start after an update? did you try an older kernel to see if it works?
[16:25] <arpad2> tomreyn: ok, thanks, let's see
[16:25] <EriC^^> sunIsShining: can you run "sudo aa-status" and pastebin?
[16:26] <sunIsShining> EriC^^ i'm a bit reluctant to post that out put
[16:26] <sunIsShining> anything specific yuo are looking for?
[16:27] <tomreyn> LostSoul: it's ##aws
[16:27] <EriC^^> sunIsShining: any | grep man output?
[16:28] <sunIsShining> EriC^^ https://pastebin.com/e79sfaaq
[16:29] <arpad2> tomreyn: alt+F2 doesn't give anything. Should I try the purge mrssages from the recovery mode?
[16:29] <EriC^^> sunIsShining: i'm not sure if they're supposedly to be there, i have no man related stuff in apparmor's status
[16:31] <sunIsShining> I have no idea what that is
[16:35] <EriC^^> sunIsShining: maybe as a temporary solution, try setting man_groff and man_filter to "complain mode" instead of "enforce mode" and possibly /usr/bin/man as well, and file a bug report
[16:37] <LostSoul> tomreyn: Thanks, lol - I guess I've missed this one :)
[16:38] <sunIsShining> EriC^^ sudo aa-complain /usr/bin/man ??
[16:38] <sunIsShining> will that do it?
[16:38] <distrax> Thank you everyone
[16:39] <EriC^^> sunIsShining: yes, try setting man_groff and man_filter first
[16:40] <CarlFK> what is the command that will tell me network card specs?  (like can it do gig?)
[16:41] <sunIsShining> EriC^^ I cant find man_filter as a directory
[16:41] <EriC^^> CarlFK: "lshw -c network" maybe
[16:42] <EriC^^> sunIsShining: does "sudo aa-complain man_groff" work?
[16:42] <arpad2> tomreyn: the first line of the suggested solution gave an error message. I tried to do it in the recovery mode
[16:43] <EriC^^> sunIsShining: if that doesn't work try "sudo aa-complain /usr/bin/man"
[16:43] <tomreyn> arpad2: sorry, it should have been ctrl-alt-f2
[16:43] <CarlFK> EriC^^: your nic is anoyiing ;)  but thanks - not what I was thinking of, but "capacity: 100Mbit/s "    so I guess no gig.  hmm
[16:44] <tomreyn> arpad2: can you disclose the error message?
[16:45] <tomreyn> CarlFK: a proper irc clients would support tab completion of nicknames.
[16:47] <arpad2> tomreyn: ctrl+alt+F2 neither has any visible effect
[16:47] <CarlFK> tomreyn: it collided with ericus and I had to find the ^ button which meant I had to set down my coffee.
[16:48] <tomreyn> CarlFK: oh ok
[16:48] <tomreyn> arpad2: hmm this should have switched you to a different TTY, showing a text based login.
[16:49] <tomreyn> arpad2: wont work while you'r ein recovery, though
[16:50] <sunIsShining> EriC^^ command not found
[16:52] <arpad2> tomreyn: sorry, CTRL+alt+F2 actually has effect if I press it long enough. now the text login screen appears, but it's flashing between the boot error screen and the tty2
[16:53] <tomreyn> arpad2: can you try logging in nevertheless? the first command from this list of three will remove the flickering
[16:54] <arpad2> tomreyn: now, after several minutes of flashing, the tty2 login screen is there. so I guess I have to try to login
[16:55] <tomreyn> arpad2: you can try, but if graphics are this unstable, keep in ind that the graphical interface may fail at any time.
[16:56] <tomreyn> ind -> mind
[16:56] <arpad2> tomreyn: ok, let's see what, I will proceed with the webpage recommendation
[16:56] <tomreyn> arpad2: wait
[16:57] <tomreyn> arpad2: this needs to be done from a text console
[16:57] <tomreyn> arpad2: doing it from the running graphical interface wont work since these commands actuallky remove this interface
[16:59] <arpad2> tomreyn: I only have what looks like a terminal, I don't have any GUI, I think
[17:00] <tomreyn> arpad2: if it's a terminal window rather than just a full screen of white text on black background then you have a graphical desktop
[17:00] <tomreyn> anyways, you'll notice when you run it, if so
[17:01] <arpad2> tomreyn: it's a full screen with white text black background, not a window
[17:02] <tomreyn> arpad2: ok, then you're fine
[17:04] <arpad2> tomreyn: ok, let's see
[17:07] <Chris1> Hi there… I am using the latest Ubuntu version LTS and I have an issue with my USB3.0 PCIe card…
[17:07] <Chris1> [  425.382885] usb usb7-port1: over-current condition
[17:07] <Chris1> Any tip ?
[17:08] <compdoc> over-current? how many devices are plugged in?
[17:08] <Chris1> it doesn't matter
[17:08] <Chris1> even if you have no device… it's still there
[17:08] <compdoc> lol
[17:10] <Chris1> I mean I tried another pcie card, same type.. same issue. Tried different ubuntu versions..Same issue…in 4 different workstations.
[17:12] <compdoc> Chris1, what command to show the info? lspci?
[17:13] <arpad2> tomreyn: after restart I have black screen or I can get the tty2 login
[17:14] <pragmaticenigma> Chris1: is there any other information before or after the message seen?
[17:14] <pragmaticenigma> Chris1: can you post several lines before and after to pastebin?
[17:16] <tomreyn> arpad2: so you ran all three commands, then rebooted?
[17:16] <arpad2> tomreyn: yes
[17:18] <arpad2> tomreyn: how should I do to the GUI?
[17:19] <tomreyn> arpad2: can you login on the tty and run: cat /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:19] <tomreyn> arpad2: this will upload your system log so i can take a look
[17:19] <tomreyn> arpad2: you will need to post the http address it returns here, though
[17:19] <arpad2> tomreyn: ok, thanks
[17:23] <arpad2> tomreyn: http://termbin.com/hp18
[17:25] <tomreyn> arpad2: please also this: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:26] <arpad2> tomreyn: ok, thanks
[17:26] <patr0clus> Is there any reason why macchanger would disallow me from connecting to my wifi on an Ubuntu host, once I've changed my mac?
[17:28] <nacc> patr0clus: does your wifi do mac filtering?
[17:28] <patr0clus> unsure. why would mac filtering disallow one mac, but not another?
[17:28] <arpad2> tomreyn: http://termbin.com/045s
[17:28] <nacc> patr0clus: uh, that's sort of the point of mac filtering?
[17:29] <patr0clus> what i mean to say...is that if it accepts one address it doesnt recognize, i.e. mine (i didnt set it up to filter unknown macs), why wouldnt it accept a random address instead.
[17:30] <patr0clus> not sure if thats clearer
[17:30] <patr0clus> does mac filtering filter based on rules, or mac addys?
[17:30] <nacc> patr0clus: ah that's what i wasn't sure about. It wasn't obvious, if you do have mac address filtering, what its set up to filter.
[17:31] <nacc> patr0clus: i was just answering your question, literally as given :)
[17:31] <patr0clus> i know, it was poorly worded.
[17:31] <patr0clus> it shouldnt be filtering anything.
[17:32] <nacc> patr0clus: when you say 'disallow' me. How are you connecting, any logs, etc.
[17:32] <tomreyn> !nomodeset | arpad2 you can try this
[17:32] <patr0clus> just connecting to the wifi in the standard wAY. but sans my original mad addy, it doesnt allow me to connect.
[17:32] <Guest62> after restart in Ubuntu all of a sudden Eclipse neon stopped working for me. It splashes the screen then it ends. Can anybody help me with it?
[17:32] <Chris1> for the USB Over Current issue
[17:33] <Chris1> https://pastebin.com/qQMgYmKH
[17:33] <patr0clus> only my original mac address will work. "original" ,eaming the one that i have always used when signing on.
[17:33] <patr0clus> meaning*\
[17:33] <patr0clus> any other, it rejects me.
[17:33] <SetryDert> Hi, does settings duplex in speed work in VM?
[17:33] <Chris1> @pragmaticenigma
[17:33] <nacc> patr0clus: you should check logs, etc. When you say "reject", does it let you connect but then not authenticate you, etc.
[17:33] <nacc> patr0clus: see dmesg or syslog
[17:34] <SetryDert> ethtool -s eth0 autoneg off speed 100 duplex full
[17:34] <arpad2> tomreyn: ok, shell I follow the link?
[17:34] <SetryDert> Nothing changes
[17:35] <tomreyn> arpad2: that's why i had ubottu post it
[17:35] <foxv71> l
[17:35] <tomreyn> arpad2: ubottu's out channel bot here, to pull some hints from.
[17:35] <arpad2> tomreyn: ok, thanks!
[17:35] <patr0clus> i msged you nacc
[17:35] <Chris1> Can anyone check the usb over current thing?:)
[17:38] <pragmaticenigma> Chris1: please have patience... those who know will answer when they can
[17:38] <Chris1> oh ok sorry :)
[17:38] <pragmaticenigma> Chris1: I'm seeing three devices in that output all sending that over current message. Are there multiple cards in the system?
[17:39] <Chris1> I have a 10g nic pcie and a usb3 pcie
[17:40] <pragmaticenigma> Chris1: just those two? pcie cards
[17:41] <Chris1> yes
[17:41] <pragmaticenigma> Do you see any of those over current messages if the card is removed?
[17:42] <Chris1> nop
[17:42] <Chris1> and I tried 2-3 different pcie usb3.0 cards same type
[17:42] <Chris1> it has something to do with the cards or the power management for the usb3.0 ports
[17:43] <Chris1> So as far as I can see
[17:43] <ioria> Chris1,  but are you experiencing troubles , apart  the dmesg output ?
[17:43] <Chris1> the first error starts here -
[17:43] <Chris1> [    5.807507] usb usb3-port1: over-current condition
[17:44] <Chris1> after usb3 detection.. is there any way to figure out what device is the usb3 ?
[17:44] <pragmaticenigma> Chris1: If the over current message does not appear when the card is left out, then it's the cards themselves with the issue.
[17:45] <Chris1> I was thinking maybe it is a driver issue?
[17:45] <pragmaticenigma> Chris1: The reason I'm asking how many cards are installed and if the message is not present if the USB3 card(s) are removed is because I see three instances of a USB card being detected
[17:46] <ioria> Chris1,  over-current  means that your device is drawing more current from the port than it negotiated for at boot time
[17:46] <Chris1> is there any way to do power management for this device from the terminal ?
[17:47] <tomreyn> arpad2: using this (unsupported) ppa may help you for now: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=bionic
[17:47] <pragmaticenigma> Chris1: I still need to know with certainty that if there are no USB cards installed, that the logs do not show that message
[17:47] <Chris1> They don't
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[17:47] <Chris1> wtf mancha..
[17:47] <pragmaticenigma> Chris1: Okay, do any of the cards have a power plug on them
[17:48] <SimonNL> yeah better not have a look at them Chris1
[17:48] <pragmaticenigma> Chris1: (sidebar: There is a spam attack going on, do not click on random links. Also, advisable to turn on the entry/exit messages to know when a spammer is detected and banned from the channel)
[17:48] <Chris1> they do have a molex connector to connect if you need to connect devices that draw more power but I don't thing this is the issue here as nothing is connected
[17:49] <Chris1> yeah I've opened this image and i'm @ work..
[17:49] <Chris1> nvm
[17:49] <Aleric> Ugh - hello - for the first time since I upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 I tried to open a GPG encrypted file. It started with saying "gpg: starting migration from earlier GnuPG versions" then imported a few keys and said "gpg: migration succeeded".  BUT I FAILS TO OPEN MY FILE!  The error it gives now is "gpg: decryption failed: No secret key" ?!
[17:49] <Aleric> This is a disaster! I have all my important data encrypted with gpg - like login info for internet banks etc.
[17:50] <Aleric> How can I fix this??
[17:50] <icee13>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[17:50] <SimonNL> Chris1: ^ don't click
[17:50] <pragmaticenigma> Chris1: Try connecting the power connector from the PSU to the cards and see if that message appears (PLEASE check the documenation for the cards to make sure those molex connectors are indeed power input)
[17:50] <nacc> Aleric: you *might* need to migrate your secret key
[17:51] <Aleric> nacc: it said it did that itself.
[17:51] <Aleric> The file is encrypted with a key (it says which) that was NOT imported.
[17:52] <Aleric> Where can I find my old secret key and import it to the new gpg?
[17:52] <Aleric> nacc: https://gyazo.com/01264c0fb477b77f5d896296a513aa9a
[17:53] <Aleric> They maybe simply dropped support for RSA?
[17:54] <nacc> Aleric: looking; do you know if hte old key was < 4096 bit, maybe?
[17:55] <Aleric> I don't know no.
[17:55] <Chris1> They are power input but they say we don't need to use them if we don't connect anything that draws too much power… And I have the error message even when the card has nothing connected. Anyways I really appreciate all the effort i will try to play a little bit with the bios settings maybe upgrade the card firmware
[17:55] <Chris1> and I'll come back
[17:55] <Chris1> have a nice day everyone
[17:55] <pragmaticenigma> Chris1: hold
[17:55] <RandomSerb> hello,
[17:55] <Chris1> I'm still here :)
[17:56] <RandomSerb> I'm about to install ubuntu with unetbootin, and there are three versions of 16.0.4: live, mediahd and netinstall
[17:56] <Aleric> nacc: yes it is.. it's key that I used my whole life: RSA-1024 0x624ACAD5 1997-01-26
[17:56] <RandomSerb> which one do I want for regular permanent system
[17:56] <Aleric> So, it's 1024 bits.
[17:57] <pragmaticenigma> Chris1: The reason for trying to connect the external power is to see if the error message goes away. If it does, it means the card it self might be drawing too much power from the power rail int he PCIe slot. Which is where the motherboard is shutting off the channel, turning it back on again and Ubuntu is reinitializing. That is why you are seeing multiple entries in dmesg about it
[17:58] <Chris1> Hm.. I will try it asap and I will let you know. I'll need to go now. Thanks a lot.
[17:58] <nacc> Aleric: sorry, im otp right now ...
[17:58] <pragmaticenigma> cool... Hopefully I get to see what you come up with before I sign out for the day Chris1
[17:59] <Aleric> otp?
[18:00] <pragmaticenigma> opt => On the Phone Aleric
[18:00] <Chris1> I will let you know anyways pragmaticenigma
[18:00] <Aleric> k
[18:00] <pragmaticenigma> sorry Aleric... opt is a directory... otp is a common abbreviation for "On the phone"
[18:01] <tomreyn> 1024-bit RSA hasn't been considered sufficient for years. i don't know whether those are no longer supported, though. the output you pasted shows that the message you are trying to decrypt was encrypted to a key that's not available. I have a ~/.gnupg/private-keys-v1.d/ directory, i assume you'll find keys that were not migrated there.
[18:02] <Aleric> Thankfully I have a second PC with the same secret keys and still the old gpg version; it lists 5 secret keys.  So two secret keys were simply and silently dropped by this conversion; not nice :/
[18:02] <basalt> hi, if i get a software update, sometime i am asked to enter a passwort for the next reboot to disable secure boot, i did this 2 times and every time after disable the secure boot a lot of things like mouse are not working correctly anymore. any hints?
[18:02] <nacc> tomreyn: thanks for picking it up :)
[18:03] <pragmaticenigma> Aleric: Is this the outcome of a system upgrade?
[18:03] <umpf> RandomSerb: you can take netisntall or mediahd
[18:03] <RandomSerb> umpf: thanks, I think I'll go with netinstall
[18:03] <Kuwanger> It used to be in 14.04 that using pumount would sync a usb filesystem before umounting.  I'm not sure if this is actually more a kernel thing or what, but is there any way to restore this behavior?
[18:03] <umpf> if you have access to the internet you can use netinstall, otherwise not
[18:04] <Aleric> I never replaced my secret key because I kinda like it that it says / proves that I have had it since 1997 :/.  I could make a new secret key pair for my financial stuff, but I have signed all my open source software with that old key (so I can prove in court that I'm the author, without actually having to add my real name)
[18:04] <RandomSerb> umpf: one more question: why doesn't unetbootin allow me to pick different partition to install ubuntu on? it only shows C: drive
[18:04] <Aleric> ie - I can't really replace the key :p
[18:04] <Aleric> pragmaticenigma: yes
[18:04] <tomreyn> Aleric: nostalgia and crypto dont go together well
[18:04] <Aleric> pragmaticenigma: I upgraded and after that I can't read my bank accounts anymore... that's not nice :/
[18:05] <pragmaticenigma> Aleric: Depending on the version differences, there was a few vulnerabilities discovered in GnuPGP. It's possible those keys were weak and the algorithm to support them has been deprecated
[18:06] <pragmaticenigma> Aleric: They shouldn't have been dropped in my opinion. The tool should still allow you to access items encrypted with them to at least convert to a newer cipher
[18:06] <Aleric> tomreyn: It's not nostalgia... the idea is that if I'd have to prove in court that I'm the copy right owner then I can point to thousands of files on the internet that have been there for two decades; at the very least it would make it extremely likely that I'm not lieing, and nobody else will be able to do the same.
[18:06] <tomreyn> Aleric: there are ways to migrate / rollover secret keys which can provide some ressurance to the world that your new keys are still yours, or should be trusted as much as the old ones.
[18:06] <Aleric> Of course I can change the key for my bank accounts.
[18:07] <tomreyn> Aleric: you can always sign with both the old and new key as long as gpg supports it. but an encryption which lasts for a life still needs to be invented.
[18:08] <Aleric> Ok... guess I'll start with making sure I have an old version of gpg on my harddisk that can still decrypt the key...
[18:09] <noodleking> hi
[18:09] <noodleking> Is this a good channel for Transmission related questions?
[18:09] <pragmaticenigma> noodleking: It depends on the question
[18:10] <noodleking> I'm trying to work out how I can route traffic from Transmission through tor.
[18:10] <pragmaticenigma> noodleking: That is not a question for this channel unfortunately
[18:11] <pragmaticenigma> noodleking: Also, you shouldn't run bittorrent over the tor network
[18:11] <noodleking> oh?
[18:11] <pragmaticenigma> noodleking: see https://blog.torproject.org/bittorrent-over-tor-isnt-good-idea
[18:11] <noodleking> ah, ok. Thanks, I'll have a read of that.
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: you getting it working mate?
[18:16] <noodleking> yikes ... thanks for the heads up pragmaticenigma, that article's nixed that idea :(
[18:17] <nacc> Aleric: http://www.apache.org/dev/key-transition.html may be a useful article, btw
[18:25] <arpad2> tomreyn: so at the end of the line starting with Linux /boot I have to add nomodeset
[18:25] <ntd> let me guess, the dude(s) responsible for updating xenial gdm is part of the team that did heartbleed and initial spectre/meltdown updates?
[18:26] <Kuwanger> Ah, found a solution of sorts: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usbmount/+bug/1768010
[18:26] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: I am on it now, after little break
[18:26] <ntd> meaning, an update will appear in one or two weeks due to "testing"?
[18:26] <nacc> ntd: if you are looking to grouse about updates provided to your system, please go elsehwere
[18:27] <nacc> ntd: without context, you're just complaining into the void
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: wich drivers show in: ubuntu-drivers list ?
[18:27] <nacc> ntd: an update always bakes for 7 days in -proposed.
[18:28] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: I am trying to change grub 2
[18:28] <ntd> nacc, what i'm saying is that canonical managed to push an update for bionic the same day as debian but for some reason a local root in xenial gnome is "meh"?
[18:29] <nacc> ntd: local root via xenial's gdm?
[18:29] <nacc> ntd: link to bug?
[18:30] <ntd> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/CVE-2018-14424
[18:30] <madLyfe> is there a 'device manager' like application to show hardware that is missing drivers?
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> madLyfe: software &updates last tab additional drivers
[18:30] <nacc> ntd: you want #ubuntu-hardened, i'd guess; there are only so many security team people
[18:31] <ntd> nacc, i'
[18:31] <madLyfe> lotuspsychje: this? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/wEJDRwpE/image.png
[18:32] <ntd> nacc, i'm not looking for #-hardened, just saying RedStarOS prolly has this patched by now
[18:32] <ntd> and i'm guessing the dude(s) responsible for xenial gdm is on holiday
[18:33] <arpad2> tomreyn: after changing the linux /boot line in grub2 and reboot nothing seemed to change. black screen with white prompt is showing
[18:34] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: where can I find ubuntu-drivers list?
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: from the terminal or tty
[18:34] <Guest62> I did update in Ubuntu and suddenly after restart eclipse stopped working, splash screen then ends. Even tried reinstalling a fresh copy. Same issue. Can somebody help me?
[18:35] <madLyfe> lotuspsychje: i see where you mean. im not getting anything. i need to install an onboard marvell sata controller driver to recognize a raid 1 array: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/dNBSh5v6/image.png
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> !raid | madLyfe start here
[18:35] <nacc> ntd: i consider your comments to be rude and i don't really care about redstart os
[18:37] <ntd> nacc, rude? i'm pointing out that there's a local root in xenials *default* dm
[18:37] <madLyfe> lotuspsychje: the raid is already created via the onboard controller, its viewable in win10(i had to install drivers to see it though) now i need to do that for ubuntu i guess.
[18:37] <ntd> and that there's not so much as a hint that an update is incoming. bionic patched a few hours after debian on monday
[18:38] <pragmaticenigma> !ot | ntd
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> madLyfe: ubuntu doesnt handle drivers like in windows
[18:39] <ask-ygU5AP56> hello
[18:41] <ask-ygU5AP56> question: Lubuntu 18.04; ThinkPad T61; dvd-rom+cdrw combo drive in bay; drive doesn't respond to eject button; no /dev/sr0 or /dev/cdrom or the like; no info on it in dmesg; no info in lshw nor in lsblk; drive works fine - opens w/ eject button prior to booting Ubuntu; also installed the OS from it
[18:41] <ask-ygU5AP56> ideas how to fix welcome
[18:42] <madLyfe> marvell 88se9172 linux driver.. i think i SOL. there is nothing on the manufacturing website. not even for windows.
[18:42] <pragmaticenigma> ask-ygU5AP56: Try typing "eject" from the command line
[18:43] <nacc> ntd: if you want to complain about the security team's practices and developer's time, then you are in the wrong channel.
[18:43] <nacc> ntd: the security team will issue a fix when they see fit, presumably. This is the support channel.
[18:44] <ask-ygU5AP56> anyone else?
[18:44] <ask-ygU5AP56> pragmaticenigma, (that doesn't work; see above)
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> ask-ygU5AP56: did you try what pragmaticenigma suggested
[18:44] <ask-ygU5AP56> lotuspsychje, yes, before coming here and writing
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> ask-ygU5AP56: eject from terminal right? not the eject button?
[18:45] <ask-ygU5AP56> lotuspsychje, as mentioned above, the os doesn't see the drive, so d'oh eject doesn't work either, since there's nothing to eject
[18:45] <pragmaticenigma> ask-ygU5AP56: your original question did not specify that you had tried using the command "eject" in the terminal/command line window.
[18:45] <ask-ygU5AP56> I'm thinking some kernel modules perhaphs necessary to use it? or bios settings? or some recent weird thing in the kernel
[18:46] <ask-ygU5AP56> pragmaticenigma, yessum, though I did specify the OS doesn't see the drive; no matter; I have tried this already. the issue lies deeper.
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> ask-ygU5AP56: how is it connected on your motherboard?
[18:47] <pragmaticenigma> ask-ygU5AP56: Also, this is a volunteer channel. I don't appreciate you treating my suggestion with disrespect. Please consider your tone when responding to suggestions offered. We do not know everything about your system, and we're going to ask a lot of questions, some that you may have tried, to get a basis of what might be going on.
[18:48] <ask-ygU5AP56> the drive is sata and the solution I have seen was to check for master/slave on the drive, not the case here though, since it has it's own channel
[18:48] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: nvidia-340 nvidia-driver-390
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: thank you, can you try 390.77 from the ubuntu graphics ppa?
[18:49] <ask-ygU5AP56> pragmaticenigma, well, out of respect to eachothers time, I think it's worth to read through the question with comprehension prior to answering it; as much as I appreciate the will, I am here to solve an issue, rather than smooth out hurt egos.
[18:49] <ask-ygU5AP56> lotuspsychje, so yeah, a sata drive in a laptop IBM/Lenovo bay
[18:49] <madLyfe> can one of you guys help me make sense of this? this is the raid controller i need drivers for to see it in ubuntu: http://theangryangel.co.uk/blog/marvell-88se9172-sata3-under-linux-as-of-320/
[18:49] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: please could you help me how to do that from the try?
[18:50] <ask-ygU5AP56> there's no wire to quickly switch
[18:50] <pragmaticenigma> ask-ygU5AP56: Your loss, I was about to give you the solution. Your rudeness is your loss
[18:50] <ask-ygU5AP56> in order to check if it's a faulty sata cable of sorts.
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: first you need to enter your system with !nomodeset, from there you can add the ppa
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | arpad2
[18:50] <ask-ygU5AP56> pragmaticenigma, I doubt that; but it doesn't matter.
[18:51] <ioria> ask-ygU5AP56, you can try booting the livecd and run sudo lshw -C Disk or dmesg | grep ata[0-9]
[18:52] <ask-ygU5AP56> ioria, ok, supposedly I get a response there and the drive pops up, what would that tell me? try a different kernel?
[18:52] <ioria> ask-ygU5AP56, i don't think so
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[18:53] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: ok, so shell I set nomodeset as permanent in grub2. Do I have to write nomodeset as the last word in the line?
[18:53] <ask-ygU5AP56> alright imma see what can be done further on this issue.
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: you can boot once like this sure
[18:53] <arpad2> ok
[18:54] <ioria> ask-ygU5AP56, i think almost a bios issue
[18:57] <ask-ygU5AP56> ioria, mm; or something to pass along to the kernel on boot, thinkpad specific
[18:57] <ask-ygU5AP56> ioria, it is functional in bios
[18:59] <Aleric> nacc, tomreyn: for future case, 18.04 has the package gnupg1 which installs the binary gpg1 that can still read the old files.
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> Aleric: tnx to take time for feedback
[19:00] <ioria> ask-ygU5AP56, no idea, not seeing any issue about that in forums; is this a regular lubuntu 18.04 install or from mini.iso ?
[19:03] <Ubu-1604> so what did I miss? ... had to buy awsome food for my pets :P~
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> Ubu-1604: only ubuntu support issues here please
[19:05] <pragmaticenigma> !logs | Ubu-1604
[19:05] <Ubu-1604> lotuspsychje: ok question : how do I widen my launch bar so it shows 2 rows of icons?
[19:05] <dsynapse> greetings
[19:05] <Ubu-1604> pragmaticenigma: thanks .. didn't know the bot did that .. i'll go look :)
[19:05] <leftyfb> Ubu-1604: That is not a feature of Unity
[19:06] <ncuptea> hi all
[19:06] <pragmaticenigma> hello dsynapse ... can we help you with an Ubuntu support question?
[19:06] <pragmaticenigma> hello ncuptea  ... can we help you with an Ubuntu support question?
[19:06] <dsynapse> i'm just here
[19:07] <ncuptea> thanks pragma.. i wan ask about kerner DKMS, is true just support 64 bit ?
[19:08] <pragmaticenigma> !dkms
[19:09] <ncuptea> several day ago i try to install Anbox & snap, but required install DKMS kernel first..after i install dependency, snap, i alway unavailable to install DKMS
[19:09] <pragmaticenigma> ncuptea: as far as I know, DKMS is available for all kernels builds.
[19:10] <ncuptea> i have read
[19:10] <Ubu-1604> leftyfb: ok actually i do have one for you .. I keep having to truncate my unity7 log file cause of an error it constantly keeps recording .. I figured out why, but I don't think it's fixable .. error is 'QPixmap::scaled: Pixmap is a null pixmap' .. the unity7.log file grows constantly easily 1-3Meg a day , it seems when icons cannot be displayed it sends that message to the log file. Main log usuage is when I am using Dolphin
[19:10] <Ubu-1604> when using the mouse to move over folders/files etc. .. every day I have to emttpty this file or it gows huge... any ideas?
[19:11] <ncuptea> but for now i alternative run remix for try install apk file
[19:12] <pragmaticenigma> Ubu-1604: Dolphin is a file browser intended to work with KDE ... not Unity or Gnome.
[19:12] <pragmaticenigma> Ubu-1604: Is there a reason that you have choosen not to use nautilus?
[19:12] <leftyfb> Ubu-1604: logrotate will keep the files from growing out of hand. Don't worry about it.
[19:13] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: I purged Nvidia and added the ppa
[19:13] <Ubu-1604> leftyfb: don't worry about 1,000 lines added to the log file .. got it.
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: okay cool, try install 390.77 now
[19:13] <leftyfb> Ubu-1604: if it's not something you can or are willing to fix, then yes, don't worrry about it
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: i understand you have an optimus card right?
[19:14] <BOUNCER> hello, i have a problem. i delete a folder with 9GB files with rightclick and it isnt shown in trash. testdisk didnt work
[19:14] <Ubu-1604> pragmaticenigma: I have looked for other GUI file managers but i havn't found much .. One is test based I could try that .. what's your sugestion for a Dolphin replacement?
[19:14] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: yes, gtx 675mx
[19:14] <BOUNCER> how can i recover
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: ok also doublecheck if nvidia-prime gets installed togheter with 390.77
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> BOUNCER: sudo photorec
[19:15] <pragmaticenigma> Ubu-1604: This isn't the correct place to ask for recommendations. Please visit #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> BOUNCER: scan the whole partition and recover data
[19:16] <BOUNCER> lotuspsychje, photorec find some files but all fles are renamed!
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> BOUNCER: thats normal
[19:16] <pragmaticenigma> BOUNCER: Also, shut down that machine and make sure the drive is only mounted in read-only... any further write activity on the drive could permanently remove the data
[19:16] <BOUNCER> do you know a program which recover files with original filenames
[19:16] <pragmaticenigma> BOUNCER: There is no program that can do that.
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> BOUNCER: photorec adds auto filenames
[19:16] <Ubu-1604> leftyfb: I checked into this problem .. it's something called QT (i think) which is a huge under layer for going GUI operations .. "willing"? .. not a chance I could .. I guess I can just file a bug report .. but like you (and they would say) .. don't worry about it .. let the log grow .. oh and BTW .. ubuntu makes SEVEN .gz zip files of this log daily.
[19:16] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: sorry, what is the command line for installating 390.77?
[19:17] <ncuptea> can i ask all about u in here guys, but out of topic? what are u'r primary activity on real life when not stay in u'r hardware?
[19:17] <pragmaticenigma> BOUNCER: photorec and other programs are recovering the raw data from the drive. When a file is deleted the name of the file is stored in a table of contents. when you delete, that record is removed, but the data is left to be overwritten.
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: check first if the ppa added that version in: ubuntu-drivers list
[19:17] <pragmaticenigma> BOUNCER: you are recovering that data prior to it being overwritten
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: then sudo apt install nvidia-driver-your version here
[19:18] <BOUNCER> lotuspsychje, on my windows system i have a program which recover the whole names
[19:18] <Ubu-1604> leftyfb: Since your such a proud 16.04 user like me .. what size is your unity7.log file (in the home/.cache/upstart directory)
[19:18] <BOUNCER> but its for ntfs
[19:18] <pragmaticenigma> ncuptea: that is an off topic question, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic and ask
[19:18] <leftyfb> Ubu-1604: no, it rotates across 7 log archives. Which is configurable.
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> BOUNCER: you are on ubuntu here
[19:18] <BOUNCER> i know
[19:18] <leftyfb> Ubu-1604: I don't run Unity
[19:18] <BOUNCER> i have ubuntu on notebook
[19:18] <ncuptea> ok
[19:18] <BOUNCER> where the folder is deleted
[19:18] <andrew__> Hello, can anyone help me? I'm having some trouble with iptables
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> BOUNCER: sudo photorec
[19:18] <BOUNCER> ok thx i go to offtopic
[19:19] <Ubu-1604> leftyfb: oh sorry .. so you can run ubuntu 16.x using a different GUI .. nice to know :)
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> andrew__: perhaps the #netfilter channel can help?
[19:19] <SimonNL> you'll get the same story BOUNCER
[19:19] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: it shows Nvidia-304 Nvidia-driver-390 Nvidia-340 Nvidia-driver-396
[19:19] <andrew__> Thank you
[19:19] <Ubu-1604> pragmaticenigma: thanks .. I didn't know a 'offtopic channel' existed .. I'll join now .. thanks.
[19:19] <compuflash> buenas tardes
[19:20] <pragmaticenigma> !es
[19:20] <BOUNCER> oh SimonNL, bist du stalker
[19:20] <compuflash> buenas tardes
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: we need to know if its 390.48 or 390.77
[19:20] <compuflash> Hola , tengo un problema en ubuntu studio, tengo dos camaras web logitech c920 conectadas, probe con cheese y solo puedo ver una, la otra no aparece, cheque con lsusb y si aparecen instaladas las dos, ¿como puedo configurarlas para que funcionen las 2 camaras? ya que lo necesito para utilizar en OBS.  transmisiones@DITRANSMICIONES:~$ lsusb Bus 002 Device 006: ID 05c6:f006 Qualcomm, Inc.  Bus 002 Device 005: ID 04f3:0103 Elan Mi
[19:20] <BOUNCER> ich dreh gleich durch
[19:20] <pragmaticenigma> !es | compuflash
[19:20] <leftyfb> Ubu-1604: Again, you really need to read up more about Linux
[19:21] <andrew__> It won't let me join #netfilter, "Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services"
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> register andrew__
[19:21] <leftyfb> andrew__: go to #freenode for help with that
[19:22] <Ubu-1604> leftyfb: I'm from a hpux and aix environment ... linux has totally different way of doing things.
[19:22] <pragmaticenigma> !register | andrew__
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: you can also go see software&updates/tab additional drivers
[19:23] <Ubu-1604> pragmaticenigma: ubuntu-offtopic .. nice idea but ... #ubuntu-offtopic: Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services.
[19:23] <pragmaticenigma> Ubu-1604: Again, this is a support channel. Please take discussions to #ubuntu-offtopic. The suggestion that leftyfb is trying to convey is you need to read up on Linux and Ubuntu. You are asking a lot of questions that can easily be researched with google searches.
[19:23] <andrew__> Thanks everyone for help, i'll try and join right now
[19:24] <pragmaticenigma> Ubu-1604: You need to register you /nick ... see above for information on registering your IRC nick
[19:25] <Ubu-1604> pragmaticenigma: Ok.
[19:25] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: How to check the Nvidia version? I googled lsmod|grep Nvidia, but it didn't help
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> gtg arpad2
[19:27] <SimonNL> BOUNCER: nein jedes tag hier
[19:28] <merci> hello
[19:28] <BOUNCER> toll unn jetzt verpfeifst du mich an cryptodan
[19:28] <BOUNCER> SimonNL
[19:28] <pragmaticenigma> BOUNCER and SimonNL : Please use only English here.
[19:28] <hggdh> BOUNCER, SimonNL: English please
[19:29] <BOUNCER> ok
[19:29] <BOUNCER> sorry
[19:29] <ask-ygU5AP56> ioria, there, I fixed it
[19:30] <ioria> ask-ygU5AP56, good to know
[19:30] <ask-ygU5AP56> pragmaticenigma, and no thanks to you
[19:30] <ask-ygU5AP56> ioria, classic pebkac
[19:30] <ask-ygU5AP56> ioria, non ubuntu related
[19:30] <ioria> i see
[19:30] <pragmaticenigma> !guidelines | ask-ygU5AP56
[19:30] <ask-ygU5AP56> ioria, we both hinted at the correct root
[19:30] <Guest62> I'm trying to do this. Can anybody help me? Gdk-WARNING **: The GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS environment variable is not supported in GTK3.See the documentation for gdk_window_ensure_native() on how to get native windows.
[19:30] <ask-ygU5AP56> until next time
[19:30] <ioria> ask-ygU5AP56, lubuntu is good for your hw, enjoy
[19:31] <Guest62> I googled gdk_window_ensure_native() on how to get native windows but didn't find good instruction
[19:31] <pragmaticenigma> Guest62: what are you trying to do that you are receiving that error?
[19:31] <Guest62> I'm trying to start eclipse
[19:32] <pragmaticenigma> Guest62: are you using the version of eclipse obtained through apt, or did you install eclipse manually?
[19:34] <ask-ygU5AP56> ioria, it does what I generally want it to do; for the majority of time; I'd go as far as calling it a reliable everyday OS; with m$ window$ support
[19:34] <ioria> ask-ygU5AP56, yeah
[19:37] <Guest62> I got disconnected!
[19:38] <pragmaticenigma> Guest62: are you using the version of eclipse provided through installing via apt... or are you installing from a download on the web?
[19:39] <Guest62> downloading from the web
[19:40] <pragmaticenigma> Guest62: Unfortunatly we cannot support that version here. This channel is only able to support the software supplied through Ubuntu and Canonicals official software channels. You will need to seek help directly on the eclipse website.
[19:40] <Guest62> I do have separate eclipse that I installed using apt but it doesn't start either.
[19:42] <pragmaticenigma> what are the errors displayed there?
[19:43] <Guest62> it didn't show me any error
[19:44] <pragmaticenigma> Guest62: For Eclipse help, they have a channel, check out #eclipse ... You may need to register a nick/screenname before you can join the channel.
[19:45] <Guest62> I did post it there. Only one person tried to help. Its not much activity there.
[19:46] <nacc> Aleric: ah so it's a gpg1 v. gpg2 difference, makes sense
[19:47] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/+bug/1754886
[19:47] <ioria> Guest62,  was for you ^
[19:47] <Ubu-1604> bbl.
[19:48] <Guest62> I was thinking to upgrade to Ubuntu 18 LTS but I guess it won't help :O
[19:48] <Guest62> ik
[19:48] <ioria> Guest62,  check the last comment
[19:52] <gambl0re> hello?
[19:52] <Guest62> @ioria I tried it, still didn't start
[19:52] <gambl0re> what is the default display manager for xubuntu?
[19:54] <pragmaticenigma> gambl0re: LightDM is used
[19:54] <gambl0re> when i did apt install ubuntu-desktop, it said i had lightDM and gdm
[19:54] <gambl0re> can i removed gdm?
[19:57] <gambl0re> hello?
[19:57] <pragmaticenigma> !patience | gambl0re
[19:57] <pragmaticenigma> gambl0re: there is no harm in having both on there. The one configured to run will continue to run, the other will remain offline.
[19:58] <gambl0re> i want to free up giga's
[19:58] <gambl0re> also when i try to bring my computer back from "suspension", sometimes it just shows me a black screen after i login
[19:59] <gambl0re> so i think theres something wrong with my display manager
[19:59] <pragmaticenigma> gambl0re: no, the black screen is due to the fact that power states aren't reliably supported depending on the computer
[20:00] <gambl0re> what do you mean arent reliably supported? its a bug with xubuntu?
[20:00] <pragmaticenigma> gambl0re: Power off, Reboot, Hibernate (Suspend to Disk) are all well supported. It is not an issue with Ubuntu. It is an issue with the computer manufacturer not implementing power state support according to defined specifications or using Microsoft specific power states.
[20:02] <gambl0re> tahts bs
[20:04] <pragmaticenigma> gambl0re: to determine which Desktop Manager is currently in use "cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager" will tell you which one is configured to be used. You should be able to remove the other one, though I don't recommend it.
[20:05] <gambl0re> im using ldm
[20:06] <gambl0re> maybe if i switch to gdm, i wont get the black screen anymore
[20:06] <pragmaticenigma> gambl0re: the black screen has nothing to do with the display manager
[20:07] <pragmaticenigma> gambl0re: if anything it is X11 or related service failing to restore after suspend.
[20:07] <gambl0re> then how do i uninstall x11
[20:07] <gambl0re> or upgrade to x12
[20:08] <pragmaticenigma> gambl0re: Again, it's not something you will be able to fix
[20:08] <nacc> gambl0re: ... if you knew what you were talking about, you'd know that is nonsense
[20:08] <nacc> gambl0re: there is no 'x12' (wrt. X11)
[20:09] <gambl0re> when i do startx in the terminal. it doesnt go into gui
[20:10] <pragmaticenigma> it won't gambl0re ... that's an old technique that isn't supported anymore
[20:16] <genata> Hi all!
[20:16] <Bonn333> hi
[20:17] <genata> I have problem with cirilic text files
[20:17] <genata> can you help me pls
[20:19] <Heisenbergg> Does anybody know how to install the BSPtree library in Ubuntu? After upgrade to 18.04, it seems to be missing.
[20:20] <tomreyn> arpad2: did you get it sorted? i had to levae there, sorry.
[20:21] <nacc> Heisenbergg: what package was it in before?
[20:21] <tomreyn> Aleric: good to know, thanks
[20:23] <arpad2> tomreyn: hi, thanks for coming back to me, unfortunately nothing has changed, apart that after Xubuntu mouse I don't see error messages, but black screen with prompt from which I can go to tty2
[20:24] <madLyfe> how does one know if snaps in the store are from the actual ppl who wrote the software?
[20:24] <tomreyn> arpad2: so what did you try so far, reinstlaling gdm (those three lines copied from askubuntu.com) and the ubuntu drivers ppa?
[20:26] <tomreyn> madLyfe: a good and very relevant question.
[20:27] <madLyfe> should just get the snaps from the publishers website?
[20:27] <tomreyn> (i haven't found a satisfying answer to it, yet)
[20:27] <smooth_> hi
[20:27] <madLyfe> though, VLC in the store as a snap but on their website i cant find a snap..
[20:27] <Aleric> tomreyn: the suffering isn't over yet though... I'm still trying to recover. After generating a new keypair things went wrong again and gpg1 suddenly couldn't find my secret key either anymore. I restored everything from backup and am now trying to get things to work in parallel using a different --homedir for gpg1.  I am now at command 104 on the commandline :(.
[20:27] <arpad2> tomreyn: roughly yes, I am not sure which version of the driver is installed. I wonder would I be able to get back the GUIif I purged Nvidia completely. though at this point I really don't know what is causing this and how did the system get to this point
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[20:30] <tomreyn> madLyfe: in the case of VLC, https://snapcraft.io/vlc states "verified account", "developer website: https://www.videolan.org/vlc/", "Contact VideoLAN: https://www.videolan.org/support/". Based on these factors you are supposed to decide whether or not to trust this software before installing it.
[20:31] <tomreyn> madLyfe: read also https://snapcraft.io/blog/trust-and-security-in-the-snap-store
[20:32] <eelstrebor> a lot of bugs in 18.04.1
[20:32] <pragmaticenigma> madLyfe: The community is divided on snaps, and it depends on the program you are trying to install. For me, I avoid snaps if a traditional/regular installation exists for Ubuntu. As for verification, of snaps, you will have to do your own legwork to verify. There currently isn't any method to verify that maker of the snap has any involvement with the source/project for the application.
[20:33] <pragmaticenigma> madLyfe: as of today, there is nothing to stop a random person from creating a snap of their favorite application and providing it on the Ubuntu store.
[20:34] <pragmaticenigma> eelstrebor: Do you have an Ubuntu specific support question?
[20:34] <fullstack> Hi I am running Ubuntu 16.04 with latest updates. My laptop crashes 3-4 times a day when I am browsing
[20:35] <fullstack> I don't see anything in the syslog kern.log or dmesg or can't catch it
[20:35] <fullstack> the fan appears to be running and it is not hot (80f>)
[20:35] <madLyfe> thanks tomreyn and pragmaticenigma !
[20:35] <tomreyn> arpad2: so the root issue there is that nvidia's drivers anre not open source and ubuntu developers, like those of every other linux distro, can only do as much as taking what they are given and try to make this work. this has also taken place for 18.04, but apparently what nvida made available is neither working out of the box, nor does it work very well even after tweaking it. there is this PPA which makes available newer versions of this
[20:35] <tomreyn> driver but if you installed those and it still doesn't work then your options are limited..
[20:35] <fullstack> any ideas? is this a kernel update issue with the intel problems?
[20:36] <madLyfe> maybe one of you guys can take a quick look at this issue i posted to the forums: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2398749
[20:36] <pragmaticenigma> fullstack: what browser are you using?
[20:38] <tomreyn> arpad2: this said, you should make logs available again, running with the new driver, maybe this will hint on other options.
[20:38] <arpad2> tomreyn: how do you explain that the problems started when the system was up and running. some horizontal lines appeared and the whole thing crashed to on OS error message
[20:39] <pragmaticenigma> fullstack: Things to try: ensure that the latest updates are installed ("sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade"). If that doesn't help, try a different web browser, there are plenty to choose from. If that doesn't help, come back with a report of what you have tried out so far.
[20:39] <fullstack> it happens with Firefox or Chrome. Basically the tabs will lock up, my mouse will slow down, and then the machine will lock up. After 10-15 minutes it doesn't do anything and I have to hold down the power button
[20:39] <tomreyn> arpad2: if you take a look at the logs you'll see the problems started by the time the nvidia driver was initialized
[20:39] <tomreyn> arpad2: they may not have been immediately visiable / exposed
[20:40] <pragmaticenigma> fullstack: there is currently a large scale malvertising campaign that causes web browsers to lock up. Google Chrome just released an update this week to address it, Firefox has doen the same.
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[20:41] <fullstack> pragmaticenigma, I thought something was up.
[20:41] <fullstack> any where I can find more info?
[20:41] <arpad2> tomreyn: ok, I am really fascinated with your knowledge 😎 log files don't mean too much for me
[20:42] <fullstack> It felt like my system went into "winxp spyware" mode
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[20:42] <tomreyn> Aleric: i think it'd be best to use this situation to migrate off the 1024-bit RSA key now, i.e. using it to sign a replacement keypair and publishing a key migration notice, which you'd also sign with the old key.
[20:43] <eelstrebor> i have a few packages that are being held back and i don't know why: build-essential cpp g++ g++-multilib gcc gcc-multilib liblapack3
[20:43] <eelstrebor> ubuntu 18.04.1
[20:44] <tomreyn> Aleric: search the web for "gpg OR gnupg key transition statement" and you should find both examples and a how-to
[20:44] <pragmaticenigma> fullstack: I don't have the link handy... you might find it in today's logs
[20:44] <pragmaticenigma> !logs | fullstack
[20:44] <Aleric> tomreyn: I just finished re-encrypting all local files with a new key.  No idea how I'd what you say though.. sign the new key with an unsupported key and publish a migration notice?
[20:45] <cloudbud> Getting error ./a.out: error while loading shared libraries: liba.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:46] <Aleric> I'm pretty sure I can't sign my new key with my old key.
[20:46] <fullstack> what's the best Ubuntu rasberry pi distribution/version?
[20:46] <tomreyn> Aleric: obviously, to use the old  key which is now unsupported (i think you said only unsupported by gpg2, not gpg1, but maybe i got this wrong) you'd need to use the old key with a version of gnupg (and its library and other related utilities) which will accept it. you could do this on an earlier ubuntu versions' live cd, for example.
[20:47] <Aleric> But then all gpg v2's out there will get highly confused by a signature they can't read.
[20:48] <tomreyn> arpad2: the log files you posted earlier were /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/syslog, those could shed some light on the current situation. example command on how to post a log file online: sudo cat /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:49] <Aleric> In fact I think that that is what I suffered from too: my trustdb.gpg file got corrupted because of the import because gpg2 didn't understand the trust signatures on my keys
[20:49] <Aleric> I had to export the trustdb, remove signatues by hand and reimport it.
[20:49] <Aleric> At that point gpg1 stopped working though.
[20:51] <arpad2> tomreyn: if Nvidia driver was removed would that help?
[21:01] <tomreyn> madLyfe: i wouldn't try to use a marvell 88SE9172 to manage a RAID array, but this decision is you to you to make, obviously. if you insist on using it for managing the arrays (and ot just as an additional, if somewhat slow, data controller), you'd need to look into dmraid to make use of the fakeraid.
[21:02] <madLyfe> tomreyn: just dmraid -a ?
[21:03] <tomreyn> arpad2: you could uninstall the nvidia drivers entirely, which would leave you with nouveau, which is a generic open source driver for nvidia hardware. this driver is not in a very rgeat state either, since ... you guess... nvidia makes hardly any documentation available for open source software developers.
[21:04] <tomreyn> arpad2: it may maker things work, but since you have this optimus / prime hardware configuration, i don't know how well this will work. but since you said your graphics worked previously, maybe it will actually work then.
[21:05] <arpad2> tomreyn: Nvidia was working fine, too. I was playing games on Steam.
[21:06] <tomreyn> arpad2: so it's worth a try. two other people who had similar issues here recently ended up making linux ignore the nvidia card at boot, which enabled them to run only on the intel, and to not have the nvidia draw power.
[21:06] <tomreyn> arpad2: on 18.04?
[21:06] <tomreyn> *ubuntu 18.04
[21:07] <tomreyn> madLyfe: sorry, it's about 10 years ago that i last used dmraid, can't help there.
[21:07] <arpad2> tomreyn: yes, Xubuntu 18.04
[21:08] <tomreyn> arpad2: oh, okay, i hadn't expected this, so what changed between when it worked and when it stopped working?
[21:08] <tomreyn> by 'nvidia', are you referring to the hardware or the driver?
[21:10] <madLyfe> ah ok. ty. i was getting: sudo dmraid -a y 'no raid disks'
[21:11] <arpad2> tomreyn: driver, first I thought it was a hardware failure because the crash happened while the system was running. I don't know what triggered this, there were some system updates, but it's usual to have such updates every week
[21:14] <arpad2> tomreyn: now I really have black screen after I purged Nvidia completely
[21:15] <tomreyn> arpad2: i see. well, it probably doesn't help to speculate on what introduced the issue now. you could search launchpad.net for any error messgae son your logs, and would likely find some bug reports with either workarounds or at least something to track and know when it's been fixed.
[21:19] <rogueomega> is the 16.04 gnome edition still supported?
[21:19] <tomreyn> rogueomega: do you have it installed and fully updated?
[21:21] <rogueomega> no
[21:21] <tomreyn> rogueomega: normally, ubuntu flavours other than the default one are supported for 3 years. this seems to also apply to 'gnome edition' according to https://ubuntugnome.org/: "Although Ubuntu GNOME 16.04.5 is supported until April 2019, we strongly encourage you to install the regular Ubuntu 18.04 LTS release which features a minimally customized GNOME desktop."
[21:22] <rogueomega> special reason why i need 16.04 - so i guess ill have to go with that
[21:22] <tomreyn> rogueomega: do you want to discuss them and possible alternatives?
[21:23] <rogueomega> im ok thx though
[21:23] <tomreyn> ok
[21:24] <bluesmonk> what's a clean way to source an .env file?
[21:25] <bluesmonk> this one is the cleanest I've found https://gist.github.com/judy2k/7656bfe3b322d669ef75364a46327836
[21:27] <tomreyn> bluesmonk: what is an ".env" file?
[21:27] <EriC^^> bluesmonk: use rubbing alcohol on the keyboard, then type the command
[21:28] <bluesmonk> tomreyn: uhm a file with assignments only, eg BOO=far
[21:28] <bluesmonk> used in things like docker, for instance
[21:29] <tomreyn> bluesmonk: so it's a configuration file, not a shell script?
[21:29] <bluesmonk> can't find a formal definition, gimme a sec
[21:29] <bluesmonk> it's a configuration file
[21:29] <bluesmonk> yes
[21:30] <tomreyn> so then, yes, you'll require a format definition. i'm not into this file format, unless it mimicks /etc/environment
[21:31] <bluesmonk> not sure what you meant, sorry
[21:31] <bluesmonk> what's a "format definition" in this context?
[21:31] <bluesmonk> like, how does one define a format?
[21:32] <tomreyn> my point is: how are you going to parse / interpret a file format that is unknown?
[21:33] <tomreyn> unless someone has written down a universally accepted way to interpret the bytes stored in a certain file, it won't be possible to interpret it correctly.
[21:35] <tomreyn> that's why you have specifications for all common file formats, such as for (different versions of) png, jpg, odf, ini, csv etc
[21:36] <bluesmonk> it's a text file, parsed by many other applications
[21:36] <FreeBDSM> could, someone, please, fix an issue with the package?
[21:36] <FreeBDSM> subliminal fails to work
[21:36] <bluesmonk> they have it built in, I'm guessing I don't want to dive into that
[21:37] <FreeBDSM> it installs fine but running it results into an exception `stevedore.exception.NoMatches: No guessit.transformer extensions found`
[21:38] <tomreyn> bluesmonk: if they're open source under a compatible license  you can always just reuse their parser. but that's kind of a development topic, not about ubuntu support.
[21:38] <bluesmonk> yes, I'm aware. I was hoping for something shipped with ubuntu
[21:38] <bluesmonk> but nvm
[21:39] <bluesmonk> thanks!
[21:39] <ph88> hey guys how can i get hwe for ubuntu 18.04 ?
[21:40] <tomreyn> ph88: there's none, yet, probably soon, though
[21:40] <tomreyn> ph88: in the mean time you could use (unsupported) mainline builds if needed.
[21:41] <tomreyn> !mainline | ph88
[21:41] <ph88> i have issues with display with kernel 4.15   This is fixed in kernel 4.16 or later .. but these mainline kernels don't work well with my wifi .. i get 50% packet loss and i can't work like this
[21:41] <FreeBDSM> does ubuntu have public issue tracker?
[21:41] <tomreyn> FreeBDSM: have you tried a web search before asking this question?
[21:41] <FreeBDSM> yes
[21:42] <FreeBDSM> ubuntu.com is a total stuff
[21:42] <tomreyn> FreeBDSM: what did you search for?
[21:43] <tomreyn> FreeBDSM: ubuntu issue tracker? that would have pointed you tothe correct answer as search result #1 on three search engines i just tried.
[21:43] <FreeBDSM> I've found some launchpad.net that way
[21:43] <FreeBDSM> not sure what that is
[21:43] <nacc> FreeBDSM: that's the site that hosts ubuntu (and other) issue trackers.
[21:43] <FreeBDSM> I mean I know it has an issue tracker, but I don't know how it is related to ubuntu
[21:44] <FreeBDSM> very non-canonical
[21:44] <nacc> FreeBDSM: no idea what you're talking about.
[21:44] <FreeBDSM> about that mess of their infrastructure
[21:45] <FreeBDSM> but w/e
[21:45] <tomreyn> ph88: which issues are there with the display?
[21:45] <ph88> tomreyn, doesn't work properly 75% of the time .. the visual effects vary
[21:45] <tomreyn> ph88: which graphics chipset do you have there?
[21:45] <ph88> amd ryzen 5 2400g vega graphics
[21:46] <nacc> FreeBDSM: "mess" for someone who did not know what a deb was yesterday
[21:46] <tomreyn> ph88: you could try newer graphics drivers form a PPA
[21:46] <ph88> kernel 4.15 works good for my wifi but bad for my graphics.  Kernel 4.16 and higher works good for display but not for wifi
[21:46] <ph88> kernel has some specific things in there to support graphics
[21:47] <ph88> i've read about this .. that some fixes were made in 4.16 kernel
[21:47] <FreeBDSM> nacc: exactly. If even a newbie like me figures they are mess so quickly - I can only imagine what some people that are more familiar with ubuntu think of it!
[21:47] <ph88> but i also ready that mainline kernels don't have ubuntu driver patches and miss some driver support .. so i think this is the reason why my wifi is bad on these newer kernels
[21:47] <nacc> FreeBDSM: you have ranted about it enough. It's not a mess to someone who spends a few minutes bothering to read the wiki, etc.
[21:47] <nacc> FreeBDSM: if you are looking for ubuntu bugs, http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[21:48] <FreeBDSM> oh, you must be an employee or something
[21:48] <FreeBDSM> didn't mean to offend
[21:48] <hggdh> FreeBDSM: that's enough
[21:48] <ph88> is there already code in a repo for ubuntu 18.10 ? i could try the kernel from there maybe if it include specific ubuntu patches
[21:48] <FreeBDSM> hggdh: huh?
[21:48] <nacc> ph88: 18.10 is at 4.17 yeah
[21:48] <nacc> ph88: you could try a live iso, but it's pre-alpha still, i think?
[21:48] <hggdh> FreeBDSM: please restrict yourself to technical issues with Ubuntu. Enough of ranting
[21:49] <ph88> but how do i get the 4.17 kernel from ubuntu 18.10 instead of the  4.17 mainline kernel ?
[21:49] <tomreyn> ph88: maybe you can use ethernet or ethernet over usb or a (different) external wireless chipset until hwe becomes available.
[21:49] <FreeBDSM> hggdh: you rant, not me
[21:49] <FreeBDSM> he asked - I answered
[21:49] <nacc> ph88: it's not trivial to install the cosmic version on bionic, and it has other dependnecies, perhaps
[21:50] <nacc> ph88: you are better off trying cosmic in a live env, imo
[21:50] <nacc> (if it'
[21:50] <nacc> (if it's possible currently), check in #ubuntu+1
[21:50] <saabstory88> I'm trying to set create a modeline to match a video wall. When I use cvt to create the modeline, the pixel clock and sync polarity don't match whats in the display manual. If i edit these values, what needs to be done to the other unlabeled numbers in the modeline?
[21:50] <ph88> tomreyn, can't use wire unfortunately
[21:51] <ph88> so i guess hwe for 18.04 comes out around the time 18.10 is released ?
[21:51] <nacc> right
[21:51] <nacc> well, it'll be after 18.10, iirc, but yeah
[21:51] <tomreyn> oh that late, i was thinking it was earlier, sorry.
[21:51] <meyou_> so i'm kernel panicing on boot, if i choose advanced and select the prior kernel, it boots fine
[21:51] <ph88> ok i guess until that time i will just have to reboot my computer so many times until display is stable
[21:52] <ph88> i noticed if display boots ok and is stable then i can just work and no problem after that
[21:52] <ph88> so i will leave my computer on
[21:52] <meyou_> i tried to update the grub config so it will boot the prior kernel by default, and it shows up as default in the grub menu now (with the asterisk)
[21:52] <nacc> ph88: did you file a bug?
[21:52] <meyou_> but if i let it boot unattended, it still panics, and if i browse the menu and choose the default option, it boots fine
[21:52] <ph88> nacc, for what ?
[21:52] <nacc> ph88: for the 18.04 kernel not supporting your graphics properly (if it works some of the time with just 18.04, that's a bug)
[21:53] <meyou_> my /etc/default/grub has GRUB_DEFAULT="Advancced options for Ubuntu>Ubuntu, with Linux 4.4.0-130-generic"
[21:53] <meyou_> what am i missing here
[21:53] <ph88> nacc, last time i search on google i found some bug reports and also comments on these bug reports that already a lot has been fixed in 4.16 kernel and this is true because 4.16 kernel has stable display for me (but wifi problems)
[21:54] <FreeBDSM> well, the issue tracker doesn't work
[21:54] <FreeBDSM> http error 404
[21:54] <EriC^^> meyou_: it must be booting something else when you let it 'just boot'
[21:54] <nacc> ph88: ubuntu bug, not general bugs
[21:54] <ph88> i didn't file a bug
[21:54] <FreeBDSM> I can't confirm my ubuntuOne account
[21:54] <FreeBDSM> is there anyone here capable of solving this problem?
[21:54] <hggdh> FreeBDSM: where did you try to go?
[21:55] <ph88> don't see the point of filing a bug for something that has been fixed in next kernel version
[21:55] <FreeBDSM> hggdh: do not address me ever again.
[21:55] <nacc> ph88: right, i'm asking you to file a bug
[21:55] <meyou_> EriC^^, hmm, so it seems to be booting the generic "Ubuntu" line from the initial menu
[21:55] <nacc> ph88: ... i think you misunderstand what distribution bugs are for?
[21:55] <hggdh> FreeBDSM: your call, but not really germane
[21:55] <ph88> nacc, never heard about distribution bugs
[21:55] <meyou_> that's got the asterisk on a fresh boot, but if I go into Advanced options then my 130 kernel is default
[21:55] <EriC^^> meyou_: can you upload your /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[21:55] <nacc> ph88: getting a bug fixed in the next kernel in mainline has no relevance on its own to ubuntu's kernels. If you would like to see your issue fixed *in* 18.04 then file a bug with ubuntu
[21:55] <hggdh> FreeBDSM: if you do not provide us enough and clear data, nothing we can do
[21:56] <ph88> nacc, so it's possible ubuntu people will backport the fix from 4.16 back into 4.15 ?
[21:56] <tomreyn> meyou_: did you update-grub after editing GRUB_DEFAULT?
[21:56] <meyou_> tomreyn, yes
[21:56] <nacc> ph88: only if you file a bug :)
[21:56] <meyou_> EriC^^, sec
[21:56] <FreeBDSM> registration `Step 2 of 3: Check your email`: results into an email being sent with a link to visit
[21:56] <nacc> ph88: anything is possible, with someone who cares to test, etc.
[21:56] <EriC^^> meyou_: there's a typo in the one you posted above
[21:56] <FreeBDSM> I visit it and I get on the page with 404 error
[21:57] <FreeBDSM> this happened twice by now
 my /etc/default/grub has GRUB_DEFAULT="Advancced options for Ubuntu>Ubuntu, with Linux 4.4.0-130-generic"   advanced is double c
[21:57] <ph88> nacc, i didn't suspect that the distro will go so far to modify the kernel
[21:57] <hggdh> FreeBDSM: give us the URL of these instructions
[21:57] <meyou_> EriC^^, bah
[21:57] <nacc> ph88: not sure i follow
[21:57] <EriC^^> :D
[21:57] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: try copying the entire link and pasting it into your browser. Could just be an issue with the link being broken up with a carriage return
[21:57] <nacc> ph88: you know the ubuntu kernel is not just the mainline kernel, right?
[21:58] <ph88> nacc, yes
[21:58] <nacc> ph88: no distro's kernel is just the mainline kernel afaik
[21:58] <meyou_> i was sure that was just a transcription error
[21:58] <meyou_> but no that's as-is in the file
[21:58] <nacc> ph88: so ... why wouldn't they modify the kernel?
[21:58] <FreeBDSM> leftyfb: just tried, no luck.
[21:58] <meyou_> and now it's booting the kernel i wanted
[21:59] <meyou_> thx for the fresh eyes :p
[21:59] <EriC^^> great, no problem
[21:59] <ph88> nacc, for the same reason why 18.04 stays on 4.15 kernel .. if they start moving code from 4.16 and higher into 4.15 it will become less and less "true" 4.15 kernel
[21:59] <tomreyn> FreeBDSM: there is #launchpad on this irc network btw.
[22:00] <nacc> ph88: it's *already* not 4.15
[22:00] <nacc> ph88: you just said you understood this
[22:00] <nacc> ph88: you would rather no bugs get fixed ever? :)
[22:01] <FreeBDSM> okay, I guess it's easier to try to remove all subliminal-related packages and just install them via pip, rather than via apt.
[22:01] <ph88> nacc, i'm not even sure if they would classify "incomplete hardware support" as a bug when the next version of the kernel has more support for the hardware
[22:02] <nacc> ph88: ok, i'm done arguing with you about it. If you want something fixed in your distro, you file a bug.
[22:02] <ph88> nacc, i understand, your intentions are good
[22:02] <ph88> i don't have much faith in this process
[22:02] <nacc> ph88: but your lack of faith is based on ... nothing
[22:03] <ph88> it's based that i feel like nothing compared to the people that i would be responding on my bug report
[22:03] <ph88> that would *
[22:04] <nacc> ph88: that's simply not accurate. But again, you'll get nowther without putting in the legwork :)
[22:04] <ph88> ill try to find the bug report i found earlier at least
[22:04] <soc> hey, can someone help me? I'm slowly going insane
[22:04] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: that's probably a really bad idea, but it's your system
[22:05] <soc> I have added a new hard disk to my system, added it to /etc/fstab
[22:05] <soc> created /homenew and added that as the target folder for the new disk
[22:05] <soc> the intention was to boot into recovery, and copy /home to /homenew, then switch the names.
[22:06] <FreeBDSM> leftyfb: I'll install it into virtualenv. No trust for python in system
[22:06] <soc> but whenever I try to mount /homenew it just says:
[22:06] <soc> $ mount -o defaults /homenew
[22:06] <soc> [   OK   ] Unmounted /homenew
[22:06] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: I meanm using the pip versions of packages as opposed to the system apt/deb packages
[22:08] <nacc> soc: you are inthe recovery shell when you do that?
[22:08] <FreeBDSM> leftyfb: system apt package is broken, what else can I do? I can't even report that bug, because there's another bug that prevents me from registering in the issue tracker, lol.
[22:08] <soc> yes
[22:08] <nacc> soc: grep homenew /etc/fstab ?
[22:08] <soc> it's literally telling me "screw you" when I tell it to mount, and it unmounts instead.
[22:08] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: it sounds like as soon as you come across anything you don't understand or the slightest hiccup, you throw your hands up and call it an unfixable bug and proceed to make matters worse
[22:08] <nacc> soc: (also what version of ubuntu?)
[22:08] <soc> 18.04
[22:09] <nacc> soc: ok
[22:09] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: how is the system package(which package) broken?
[22:09] <nacc> soc: so the above grep ouptut please, and `mount | grep homenew`
[22:09] <soc> UUID=<numbers and stuff> /homenew ext4 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 2
[22:09] <FreeBDSM> leftyfb: that how https://paste.ee/p/Ul33S
[22:10] <soc> the UUID of the mount corresponds to the UUID received from blkid
[22:10] <ph88> nacc  https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196683  people talking about fix in 4.16  https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/7nqwoe/apparently_amds_request_to_be_excluded_from_the/
[22:10] <nacc> ph88: yes. that's the *upstream* kernel bugtracker
[22:10] <nacc> ph88: has nothing to do with the ubuntu kernel on its own
[22:10] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: what is that the output from?
[22:11] <FreeBDSM> leftyfb: you won't believe it... the output is from running `subliminal`
[22:11] <soc> mount | grep homenew returns nothing
[22:11] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: what version of ubuntu?
[22:11] <FreeBDSM> leftyfb: 18.04
[22:11] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: can you also share the exact command you ran?
[22:12] <FreeBDSM> leftyfb: yes. It's `subliminal`.
[22:12] <nacc> soc: is there a /homenew directory?
[22:13] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: you do realize subliminal requires arguments in order to be run correctly right? There's a whole man page to tell you how to use it. I'm pretty sure *BSD has man pages so you should be familiar with those.
[22:13] <Umeaboy> What's the equivalent command to install all build-deps for alienarena? I tried sudo apt-get build-dep alien-arena or alienarena, but there aren't any build-dependancies found for 18.04 (Bionic).
[22:14] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: while the error output is lacking in any sort of human readable information, the issue a the moment is completely user error.
[22:14] <soc> nacc: yes
[22:14] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: Since you failed to read any sort of documentation for a command line utility you've never used before
[22:14] <FreeBDSM> leftyfb: calling it without arguments shouldn't result into an exception. Also, I utilize mpv script 'subit.lua' ( https://github.com/wiiaboo/mpv-scripts/blob/master/subit.lua ) which uses subliminal and it says `subliminal failed`. And that very same script migrated to ubuntu from freebsd where it worked just fine.
[22:14] <nacc> Umeaboy: what happened when you ran `sudo apt-get build-dep alien-arena` ?
[22:14] <soc> nacc: empty and owned by root
[22:15] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: have you tried using subliminal without any sort of "ported" script from a completely different and somewhat incompatible operating system?
[22:16] <FreeBDSM> leftyfb: the script is just a .lua file. It is OS agnostic.
[22:16] <Umeaboy> nacc: E: Unable to find a source package for alien-arena
[22:16] <jwheare1>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[22:16] <FreeBDSM> the script will probably work just fine as soon as subliminal issues get gone
[22:16] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: you haven't answered the question. Which means you haven't done any sort of proper troubleshooting
[22:17] <nacc> leftyfb: FreeBDSM: appears to be a bug in guessit? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=881289
[22:17] <nacc> soc: hrm, i would try mounting it manually
[22:17] <ph88> nacc, i can't find where to report a bug
[22:17] <nacc> !bug | ph88: you want `ubuntu-bug linux`
[22:18] <FreeBDSM> nacc: hmm, seems like you are right.
[22:18] <nacc> Umeaboy: do you have deb-src lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[22:18] <FreeBDSM> but I am using an LTS version of OS... why do I... nevermind
[22:20] <Umeaboy> nacc: Content of /etc/apt/sources.list is as follows: https://hastebin.com/vigicovedi.shell
[22:20] <nacc> FreeBDSM: LTS has no direct correlation to bugs, fwiw. But it seems like this might have been reported a while ago and not fixed in Ubuntu. dunno. someone in the community who cares needs to step up and fix the issue (subliminal is in universe)
[22:20] <FreeBDSM> nacc: the bug you linked to shows the same exception, but it is about failure to build the package. But I don't build my packages on ubuntu, I install only binaries
[22:20] <nacc> FreeBDSM: yes, i know, the underlying bug is that one, if i had to guess (in guessit somewhere)
[22:20] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: https://askubuntu.com/questions/698633/subliminal-does-not-work-in-ubuntu-18-04    found on the first page of google after looking up the error
[22:21] <nacc> Umeaboy: you don't have any deb-src lines. You can't get build depenencies without source info
[22:21] <hggdh> is alien-arena packaged for Ubuntu?
[22:21] <Umeaboy> What's the solution to get them?
[22:21] <Umeaboy> Yes.
[22:21] <nacc> hggdh: yeah
[22:21] <FreeBDSM> leftyfb: you win this round, sir.
[22:21] <nacc> Umeaboy: uncomment the appropriate lines and run `sudo apt-get update`
[22:22] <nacc> hggdh: it's in multiverse, but yes
[22:22] <hggdh> nacc: yes, should have rmadison-ed it before asking... sorry
[22:22] <nacc> hggdh: np
[22:23] <FreeBDSM> I guess their solution should be temporary, because if I purge a package and install a replacement for it via pip - it's generally wrong
[22:23] <nacc> FreeBDSM: right
[22:24] <Guest1918> what should i install to use mail in the terminal ubnutu 18.4.1
[22:24] <leftyfb> Guest1918: define "use mail"
[22:26] <Guest1918> well im wating to manage my email such as lavabit or gmail through the terminal send and recive email
[22:26] <soc> nacc: that's what I'm doing, that's when I'm getting the unmounting message
[22:26] <FreeBDSM> nacc: leftyfb: thank you.
[22:26] <soc> should I try using the UUID from the partition instead of the UUID of the valume?
[22:28] <soc> mh, no, that didn't work
[22:29] <soc> using /dev/sdb1 doesn't work either
[22:32] <soc> any ideas?
[22:32] <Umeaboy> nacc: Is there no dbg package for alien-arena?
[22:32] <Umeaboy> I did as you said in the source list file.
[22:33] <Umeaboy> The dependancies are installed, but I need to debug it.
[22:33] <nacc> soc: you previously pasted mount -o defaults /homenew
[22:33] <Umeaboy> Should I just run it with --debug?
[22:33] <nacc> soc: that uses fstab
[22:33] <nacc> FreeBDSM: yw
[22:33] <nacc> Umeaboy: sorry, why are you asking about debug packages?
[22:34] <nacc> Umeaboy: debug pacakges come from the ddebs service now
[22:34] <Umeaboy> I want to debug a flickering issue when clicking on the fight button to start the game,
[22:34] <Umeaboy> OK.
[22:35] <nacc> Umeaboy: so why did you need the build-deps?
[22:35] <nacc> Umeaboy: or were you going to build the debug packages locally?
[22:35] <nacc> Umeaboy: for reference: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages
[22:36] <Umeaboy> Nope. I just want more output in the terminal.
[22:36] <Umeaboy> And I thought about building the game locally.
[22:36] <nacc> oh i see
[22:37] <nacc> Umeaboy: so i don't know hwy you needed one or the other for your purposes :)
[22:37] <Umeaboy> I seem to get a segmentation fault when trying to load openarena.
[22:37] <Umeaboy> Signal 11
[22:38] <smeggysmeg19>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[22:39] <nacc> Umeaboy: with the ubuntu package or yours/
[22:39] <Umeaboy> With the Ubuntu package.
[22:39] <nacc> Umeaboy: in addition to your flickering problem?
[22:40] <Umeaboy> I mistakened the flickering to be for openarena, but it was in alienarena.
[22:41] <nacc> oh i  didn't realize were talking about two different programs ;)
[22:41] <Umeaboy> My bad!
[22:41] <Umeaboy> Sorry!
[22:41] <nacc> totally my fault, easy to miss :)
[22:50] <tomreyn> Umeaboy: i just tried, openarena crashes for me (ubuntu 18.04.1, amd64), too, with default settings, upon starting a skirmish. the crashing proicess is ioquake3
[22:50] <tomreyn> Umeaboy: did you report a bug?
[22:55] <rsmith31415> Hi there. Anyone bought a G Series laptop (Dell) and installed Ubuntu successfully? I'm probably going to buy that laptop, but there are not many instructions to install Ubuntu (e.g. https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/91rzc1/installing_linux_on_a_dell_g7/)
[23:04] <Death91622>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[23:05] <JacobTDC> Is there a good program for turning an html document (such as the Node.js docs) into something like a manpage or vim help file?
[23:06] <JacobTDC> Just, some kind of file with navigable links?
[23:09] <superburger> Hi !
[23:10] <superburger> I have a small question: what does it mean to have a package owned by "Ubuntu MOTU Developers" ? Thanks !
[23:10] <nacc> superburger: it means it is in universe. MOTU = masters of the universe. That means updates/fixes are community maintained.
[23:10] <nacc> superburger: rather than by canonical (in particular, security fixes)
[23:11] <superburger> @nacc Thanks !
[23:15] <nacc> supersoju: yw
[23:15] <nacc> supersoju: sorry
[23:16] <JacobTDC> Eh, nvm.
[23:19] <tomreyn> rsmith31415: hardware discussions aren't really topical here but we can discuss this in #uubntu-offtopic or ##hardware if you like
[23:19] <tomreyn> !offtopic | rsmith31415
[23:23] <triggerpig> test
[23:23] <triggerpig> awesome
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[23:27] <rsmith31415> tomreyn: Of course. I will join #ubuntu-offtopic. Thanks
[23:28] <qwebirc24459> Am I blocked
[23:31] <confluency> qwebirc24459: Blocked from where?
[23:32] <qwebirc24459> I got some message from freenode stating all messages will be blocked from unidentified users
[23:32] <Umeaboy> qwebirc24459: Are you regged?
[23:32] <qwebirc24459> Umeaboy: nope
[23:32] <Umeaboy> Then please do so.
[23:33] <Umeaboy>  /msg NickServ reg help and read the PM.
[23:34] <Umeaboy> Then you have to identify to NickServ every time you use the Freenode server.
[23:35] <Umeaboy> What the fudge?
[23:35] <qwebirc24459> back and regged?
[23:35] <qwebirc24459> nope
[23:35] <qwebirc24459> odd.
[23:36] <qwebirc24459> I'm logged in under my user account, but still sending messages as qwebirc24459
[23:38] <DalekSec> qwebirc24459: /nick s7rawman
[23:38] <s7rawman> ah ha
[23:38] <s7rawman> it's beautiful
[23:39] <cwre>  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­  http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ http://magaimg.net/img/wqz.jpg  ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­ ­
[23:40] <JackPot> Hi. I'm trying to verify a bug with launchers: I edited firefox.desktop  to open in private mode, but it doesn't work unless the launcher is not locked to the dock. Ubuntu 18.04, 16.04 works fine.
[23:40] <JackPot> Can someone confirm?
[23:40] <IdiocyInAction> hello
[23:41] <IdiocyInAction> I get several ACPI errors on startup and in dmesg
[23:42] <IdiocyInAction> I also seem to have have issues with my display driver, might that be related
[23:42] <Umeaboy> What Ubuntu version and what kernel and does that create any issue for you?
[23:42] <IdiocyInAction> 18.04, 4.15.0-32-generic
[23:43] <Umeaboy> What symptoms does your display have?
[23:43] <Umeaboy> If the image is fine, those are just warnings.
[23:44] <IdiocyInAction> well, it is a rather weird issue which is why I am rather stumped, I run ubuntu+windows in a dualboot config and when I start ubuntu first I cannot get any screen output (HDD light flashes though and keyboard works), but when I start windows then ubuntu it works
[23:44] <Umeaboy> OK.
[23:45] <IdiocyInAction> I tried using nouveau, but that didn't recognize my GPU at all, so I switched to the propietary driver
[23:45] <Umeaboy> Which driver?
[23:45] <Umeaboy> And?
[23:45] <Umeaboy> Try loading the kernel by adding nomodeset.
[23:45] <Umeaboy> Let me know if that makes any difference.
[23:45] <s7rawman> anywho my reason for being here. I've got my system set up running luks encryption on my primary os. I've set up a second disk under luks, full disk. It's set up to use a key file that's stored on the encrypted primary drive using crypttab, and then mounts the partition using fstab. Last time I did this, it wouldn't boot. Some error about unable to mount partion. Do you see any issue with this config?
[23:46] <s7rawman> *using crypttab to decrypt
[23:48] <Goop> Hey, so I followed this tutorial: https://www.linode.com/docs/applications/remote-desktop/install-vnc-on-ubuntu-16-04/
[23:49] <Goop> and I'm not getting a desktop environment with the "regular" Ubuntu look, with the bar on the left and a search tool in Ubuntu Dash.
[23:49] <Goop> Does Ubuntu auto-adjust what to show, based on screen size or client?
[23:49] <Umeaboy> I'd say the latter.
[23:49] <Umeaboy> I'm not expert though.
[23:49] <Goop> I'm on Ubuntu Server, installing the following packages: ubuntu-desktop gnome-panel gnome-settings-daemon metacity nautilus gnome-terminal
[23:49] <Umeaboy> no
[23:50] <Umeaboy> Anyway. Gotta go to sleep.