| IrcsomeBot1 | <Anarcho Taoist> Hi all! I am getting screen glitches occasionally. Particularly with Latte Dock. It looks like TV static. When I scoll over the icons it clears up. What could be the cause? Kubuntu BB on Dell Precision 5520 | 00:27 |
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| Delvien | IrcsomeBot1: sounds like compositor problems | 01:44 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <Anarcho Taoist> @Delvien, Right - where do I start in looking at that? | 02:26 |
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| robk | got a question, so I installed the newest nvidia drivers, and it totally borked my kubuntu 18.04 system | 08:00 |
| robk | I ran sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-* && buntu-drivers autoinstall | 08:02 |
| robk | basically, I tried to install the nvidia-390 drivers, and everything just went to crap. | 08:02 |
| robk | system ran beautifuly before.. and now it's a brick. KDE refuses to load. | 08:02 |
| robk | :( | 08:02 |
| diogenes_ | robk, and did you have nvidia proprietary installed before? | 08:03 |
| hateball | robk: 390 are terrible with Plasma | 08:06 |
| hateball | robk: if you want later, use 396.xx from the driver PPA, those work | 08:06 |
| hateball | robk: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa | 08:06 |
| robk | okay, so it's possible that plasma is barfing due to the graphics-driver stuff I added for nvidia-390, so I need to use 396?.. | 08:09 |
| robk | I thought 390 is the newest? | 08:09 |
| hateball | latest long lived | 08:09 |
| hateball | doesnt change that it does not work as it should | 08:10 |
| robk | okay, so my graphics is a quadro M2000M | 08:10 |
| robk | with prime | 08:10 |
| robk | so it's both intel + quadro | 08:10 |
| robk | so I have that repo added, which driver package should I install exactly? | 08:11 |
| hateball | nvidia-graphics-drivers-396 I think | 08:11 |
| hateball | I am not on my nvidia machine atm | 08:11 |
| hateball | "apt search nvidia|grep 396" otherwise :) | 08:11 |
| robk | says it's already installed | 08:12 |
| robk | KDE refuses to load, some applications launch, but the main KDE doesn't show anymore :(] | 08:12 |
| hateball | what driver are you using according to nvidia-settings ? | 08:12 |
| robk | I had to install xdm just so I could login. | 08:12 |
| hateball | robk: and you didnt do anything like run X apps with sudo? | 08:13 |
| hateball | which could break permissions | 08:13 |
| robk | never. | 08:13 |
| hateball | hmmm | 08:13 |
| robk | I downloaded nvidia's .sh driver | 08:13 |
| robk | turned off x | 08:13 |
| robk | chmod +x | 08:13 |
| robk | and ran it w/o the GUI running like I've done in the past | 08:13 |
| robk | thought since they make the driver for all of this stuff it would just work. | 08:14 |
| robk | :( | 08:14 |
| robk | I was trying to fix the vsync issue with my graphics. | 08:14 |
| robk | intel worked okay, but felt very laggy | 08:14 |
| robk | i'm on a 4k laptop. | 08:14 |
| robk | 08:14 | |
| hateball | so... you've used both nvidias driver as well as PPA? | 08:14 |
| robk | so my problem is.. I poped back in this kubuntu disk and no reinstall dialog like ubuntu used to have. | 08:15 |
| hateball | hmmm | 08:15 |
| robk | okay, so I thought adding the PPA would fix things. | 08:15 |
| robk | I added the PPA and nothing works now. | 08:15 |
| robk | I mean apt packages are fine, just video wont' come up, I mean I see a crosshair on the screen, but nothing is showing up. | 08:15 |
| robk | I got xdm to run, give me a GUI login prompt, but once I get into the desktop, the widgets & everything, nothing shows up, dolphin starts, but that's it. | 08:16 |
| hateball | any errors in journalctl ? | 08:16 |
| hateball | if you have /home on its own partition then a reinstall is easy enough if you do manual partitioning | 08:17 |
| robk | what should I look for? | 08:17 |
| hateball | well, errors :D | 08:17 |
| hateball | or in Xorg.log | 08:18 |
| hateball | but I guess Xorg does start | 08:18 |
| robk | I ran.. journalctl | grep error | grep -i xorg | 08:18 |
| robk | nothing shows up | 08:18 |
| robk | this is quiet frustrating :( | 08:19 |
| hateball | sorry it is quite hard to troubleshoot this stuff remotely | 08:20 |
| hateball | so if you pick sddm as login manager, it doesnt even load? | 08:21 |
| robk | I've got another HD on tis system, I'm going to copy over my /home into my ssd, and reformat this system. Lesson Learned, no longer going to ever try to install nvidia drivers on a machine until I know other people have tested this process, because nvidia can die in a fire. | 08:21 |
| robk | yeah, sddm just shows up a '_' in the upper left-corner | 08:22 |
| robk | so I installed xdm thinking somelthing might be messed up. | 08:22 |
| robk | yeah, this is for sure the last time I try to do anything fancy with linux desktop. It looks beautiful.. but man.. feels so sketchy | 08:25 |
| robk | I've used linux for years, and never had it wipe out so badly.. | 08:26 |
| hateball | robk: fwiw I've never had problems with the PPA | 08:32 |
| hateball | avoid manual installs like the plague, for reasons similar | 08:32 |
| robk | hateball: yeah.. I'm frustrated as hell right now :( | 08:32 |
| hateball | it being an optimus system sadly only makes it worse as well | 08:33 |
| robk | I just inserted a usb thumbdrive into the laptop, going to make sure I have multi-partition setup once I copy over my 50gb of data off it, good thing for nvme/ssd on same system, evo 950 512gb nvme + 2tb evo 850 | 08:33 |
| hateball | apparently nvidia are working on that tho | 08:33 |
| robk | hateball: yeah, they can work on that while I make sure in the future I avoid them like the plague. | 08:33 |
| hateball | :D | 08:34 |
| robk | getting a good 200mb/sec read/write though, which is pretty decent :) | 08:35 |
| hateball | nice | 08:36 |
| robk | how much space you think I should setup? | 08:38 |
| robk | for each partition? | 08:38 |
| robk | for kubuntu, give it like 100gb for root, and dedicate the rest to /home/? | 08:38 |
| hateball | all depends on your use case obvs | 08:39 |
| robk | ugh.. | 08:39 |
| robk | so I use docker. | 08:39 |
| hateball | use 'du' before you format and find out how much you use now | 08:39 |
| hateball | it's not like resizing is particularly hard or time consuming on SSD either | 08:40 |
| hateball | one can always adjust later | 08:40 |
| robk | oh, so you think that I should basically just re-size the partition right now? | 08:40 |
| robk | that actually makes a lot of sence | 08:41 |
| robk | because the /home/ will be faster copying to itself than to another ssd | 08:41 |
| hateball | yeah you can just liveboot and resize and create new partition and move over | 08:42 |
| robk | I'm live-booted right now. | 08:42 |
| robk | my guess is all my KDE stuff is fine, my /home/<user> is fine, it's the darn drivers etc that are F'd. | 08:47 |
| robk | resized my partition, I'm now rsyncing my root /home to partition /home | 09:04 |
| robk | then going to re-install ubuntu. | 09:04 |
| hateball | :) | 09:04 |
| hateball | luckily it doesnt take so long | 09:04 |
| robk | hateball: that sound like a plan? | 09:04 |
| hateball | unless you have a million packages to install afterwards | 09:05 |
| robk | meh.. the data is more important. | 09:05 |
| hateball | robk: yea sounds good, just dont forget to do manual partitioning and dont format your /home :p | 09:05 |
| robk | my slack, discord, chrome, etc takes a long time just to get all the profiles setup / working etc, all the MFA stuff etc. | 09:05 |
| robk | yeah.. I'm going to watch that like a hawk. | 09:05 |
| hateball | you dont have chrome profile synced to your account? | 09:05 |
| hateball | google account that is | 09:06 |
| jubo2 | Hello and thanks for the awesome desktop OS | 09:32 |
| jubo2 | I've tried to stop the touchpad from doing unwanted things when typing with the laptop's internela keyboard (which causes unwanted touchpad action). I've done so by 'System Settings -> Input Devices -> Touchpad -> Enable/Disable Touchpad' and ticking the "Disable touchpad when typing"-checkbox and setting "Timeout" to 350ms" but these settings do not seem to be applied at all | 09:34 |
| jubo2 | I'll ask in #kde.. maybe they know about this | 09:40 |
| robk | question. | 09:41 |
| robk | so if I backup this folder, /home/ into my new home partition. | 09:41 |
| robk | when ubuntu asks me to make a new user, can I cal it the same as the old one and it will resume using the same folder I had previously? | 09:42 |
| luxifer | Hi there... I'm on 18.04 and I find myself switching to the vterm when pressing alt+f2... is this a bug? in the past, one needed to press ctrl+alt+f2, which is the behavior I'd like to get back | 10:13 |
| proctrap | hey guys, I've got a problem with the taskbar going inside the clock etc: https://ibb.co/dfHASe | 10:41 |
| proctrap | could be related to applications getting different sized tasks: https://ibb.co/fA8Ofz | 10:42 |
| proctrap | option "Always arrange tasks in columns of as many rows" is the culprit | 10:49 |
| proctrap | without everything works fine | 10:49 |
| proctrap | guess I've to live with that | 10:49 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 11:08 |
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| hateball | robk: yes, use the same username | 11:30 |
| hateball | robk: and it will also get the same uid (1000) so everything should be owned by you | 11:30 |
| hateball | oops, 2 hours ago, maybe it is too late now | 11:30 |
| hateball | jubo2: is this on 18.04 ? | 11:31 |
| jubo2 | hateball: yes | 11:31 |
| hateball | I think there were some changes, switch to libinput from evdev or so? iirc some devices work better or worse with one or the other | 11:32 |
| hateball | this is just from the back of my head tho | 11:32 |
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