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lubot5<tsimonq2> https://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-development-newsletter-9/01:57
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lubot5<tsimonq2> https://twitter.com/LubuntuOfficial/status/103028930363148697603:10
wxl@tsimonq2: so i've spent all night faffing around with compiling libfm-qt/pcmanfm-qt to confirm that using pkexec for the switch user command fails, even upstream. however, the default for upstream, lxqt-sudo, which we appear to have on our install, works fine. platform requirement?05:22
tsimonq2wxl: Could you be more clear about your question?05:23
wxl@tsimonq2: why are we using pkexec, which appears to be problematic, versus using lxqt-sudo? Tool → Open As Root in pcmanfm-qt if you want to see the silent fail of pkexec. or kill pcmanfm-qt and run it in a terminal to see it complain (dead parents)05:24
tsimonq2wxl: In that case, let's use lxqt-sudo :)05:25
wxli mean i just odn't know why we changed it05:25
wxlit's not the upstream standard05:25
tsimonq2Where did we change it?05:25
wxland i can't imagine debian changed it. undoubtably agaida would crap himself05:26
wxlwell we have to figure out where it's from05:26
tsimonq2wxl: Try looking in lubuntu-default-settings.05:26
tsimonq2Our XDG settings.05:26
wxlyeah i'm getting there05:27
wxlit's all your fault05:28
wxlhttps://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGS4a3fafc80834a8d167702f92c02d02bcd12c024d05:28
tsimonq2wxl: Well, that shouldn't say gksu 'cause that's stupid. XD05:28
tsimonq2But yeah, throw me a diff fixing it.05:28
wxlworking on it05:32
tsimonq2wxl: By the way, we hit 4,000 Twitter followers.05:45
* tsimonq2 yawns.05:51
tsimonq2wxl: I need to hit the hay.05:51
wxloh nice05:51
tsimonq2You have ~ 5 mins ;)05:51
wxlsorry, we were watching Travellers05:51
wxlwe turned it off05:51
tsimonq2hehe05:51
tsimonq2np05:51
wxlpackaging wiki helped05:52
tsimonq2Oh really? :D05:52
wxlyep. actually, the quiltrc helped a ton05:52
tsimonq2From r/Linux, btw:05:52
tsimonq2ITT: uninformed comments from people hating on Mir who don't even know that what Mir is. Mir is a compositor that now supports the Wayland protocol. This has nothing to do with the failed Mir API that was a competitor to Wayland. Global hotkeys and screen recording works on Mir.05:52
tsimonq2So this is a good thing, unless you want every desktop environment to have to reinvent the wheel and write their own wayland compositor with incompatible features. Want screen recording? You need KDE. Want gamma/redshift you need GNOME. Want global hot keys?, You need to switch to sway. Wayland has fractured the Desktop. Mir is helping to put the pieces back together.05:53
tsimonq2SOMEONE is smart.05:53
tsimonq2Otherwise, awesome :D05:53
wxlso let me ask you about your workflow05:53
tsimonq2Yeah.05:53
wxlyou have a git repo in which you do your arc'ing05:53
wxland then obviously you have the source (i assume you pull-lp-source your way to it)05:53
tsimonq2I see where you're going with this.05:54
tsimonq2And, no XD05:54
wxlafter you've done the work of making the patch in the source, do you just copy the patch directory over to your git repo?05:54
tsimonq2I usually `uscan --download-current-version` then extract the tar into the Git repo, do the changes, then `rm -rf !(debian) .pc/`05:54
wxlhuh cool ok, i'll give that a go next time05:55
tsimonq2Sure.05:55
tsimonq2wxl: Did you have that diff handy and ready to go or can I go to bed? ;)05:58
wxlalmost there05:59
wxlon the way05:59
wxlhuh. i just tried uscan on the nm-tray folder i still have laying around and it failed06:05
wxlno matching hrefs for version 0.4.0 but that's definiately one of the tags 06:05
lubot5<tsimonq2> @wxl, Try wgetting it manually06:05
lubot5<tsimonq2> Alternatively, just get the tar from LP06:06
lubot5<tsimonq2> !upkg nm-tray06:06
wxlhahahah what's that factoid?06:06
lubot5<tsimonq2> (Yes, that's a bang. :P)06:06
lubot5<tsimonq2> It's a DuckDuckGo query!06:06
wxloh huh06:06
wxlum06:11
wxlso you don't want it changed?06:11
tsimonq2wxl: See again.06:12
tsimonq2wxl: btw you should totes join #mir-server.06:12
wxlk06:12
wxlsurprised by the need for a new changelog entry06:12
tsimonq21.9 is already in the archive.06:13
wxloh duh06:13
wxland so this is 2.0?06:14
tsimonq2no06:14
tsimonq2semver06:14
tsimonq21.1006:14
wxlk06:14
wxldo you have to dch -r releasename?06:15
tsimonq2nope06:15
wxlhuh06:15
tsimonq2Should autodetect it, if you're on Cosmic.06:15
wxlwell i am running on bionic06:15
tsimonq2Otherwise just sed it manually. XD06:15
wxlthere we go06:16
tsimonq2wxl: 1.1006:16
wxloh wth06:17
wxlstupid dch -r messed it up!06:17
wxlsomtimes that command is dumb as a bag of rocks06:17
tsimonq2No, it expects the packager to have common sense XD06:17
tsimonq2¯\_(ツ)_/¯06:17
tsimonq2wxl: By the way, you'll like this casper upload I just sponsored: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/1.39506:20
wxlwhat's with the diff on changelog?06:21
wxlwhitespace changes?06:21
tsimonq2Yeah.06:21
wxlboo06:21
tsimonq2I have a Vim macro :)06:21
wxloh we consider that a feature then? :/06:21
* wxl grumbles something about unreadable06:22
tsimonq2Huh?06:22
tsimonq2:P06:22
wxlthat is such an easy fix re: empty pasword06:22
tsimonq2Enjoy: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/1.1006:22
tsimonq2It is.06:22
wxlyay thx06:23
tsimonq2np06:23
tsimonq2wxl: We should eventually work on getting you PPU for the Lubuntu packageset, if you're up for it :)06:23
wxlyep06:23
tsimonq2So I can go to bed and not have to wait for you XD06:23
wxlworking on this little stuff will go a long way06:24
tsimonq2Absolutely.06:24
wxli nearly forget everything i did as a kubuntu yellow belt06:24
tsimonq2Thank you so much!06:24
tsimonq2hahaha06:24
tsimonq2No worries.06:24
wxlhey that reminds me06:24
wxlnext newsletter let's do a big bold call for people to really hard test things06:24
wxllike, not just follow install testcases06:25
wxlbut try every single piece of every single little function there is06:25
tsimonq2Good idea.06:25
wxlmaybe we make a schedule for it even on the wiki06:25
tsimonq2I'll set it up, but you wanna write out that part? :)06:25
wxlpeople can sign up for a particular package they want to beat on06:25
tsimonq2You can Just Push It if you want to.06:25
tsimonq2Fo sho06:25
wxlyeah sure06:25
wxljust saying it out loud so one or both of us can remember to do it :)06:25
tsimonq2Right.06:25
wxlbecause that's how i've been uncovering all these bugs06:26
wxllifting up rocks :)06:26
wxlwe have to remember the importance of doing this because what we're doing right now is a vast change in functionality relative to the past, so it needs a different approach06:26
wxlwe haven't had any testing like this in a long, long time06:27
wxlprobably back to when lsc first came out :/06:27
tsimonq2eew06:27
tsimonq2hehe06:27
tsimonq2But yeah, I'm totally with you here.06:27
tsimonq2And if you have the time/energy, it'd be cool to get you to drive it. :)06:27
wxlcould you build up a little table of all the packages?06:27
tsimonq2After I sleep. ;)06:27
wxli'll work on a write up06:27
wxlyeah of course06:27
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tsimonq2wxl: So, do whatever you want in posts/newsletter/10/post.md but don't remove "NOTICE"06:28
tsimonq2It's a placeholder.06:28
tsimonq2Otherwise, go ham.06:28
wxlk06:29
tsimonq2I should 😴   for real here. o/06:29
wxlsee yuz06:29
wxloh06:29
tsimonq2oh?06:29
wxlone last thing before you go06:29
tsimonq2yeah06:29
wxllast thing i promise06:29
wxlqt migration?06:29
wxlwe going to get together on that still?06:29
wxlor did you just mainline a bunch of coffee? :)06:29
tsimonq2wxl: Really, it's just about reading and understanding this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration06:30
tsimonq2Interpret this: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html06:30
tsimonq2And then this thing: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt06:30
tsimonq2The latter reeeaaaaallllly sucks, but slangasek gave me a script Laney wrote. Finding...06:31
tsimonq2https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~laney/ubuntu-archive-tools/update-output-helper/view/head:/update-output-helper06:31
tsimonq2wxl: There's really no expertise required, just the ability to soak in everything the wiki says.06:31
tsimonq2Pointers would be appreciated but I just haven't had the time :(06:32
wxlso you know what you're doing here or no?06:32
tsimonq2I do.06:32
wxlok06:32
wxlso just need help doing it06:32
tsimonq2It's just one big pile of mess.06:32
tsimonq2Yeah.06:32
wxlok, well, we'll put our heads together at some point06:32
wxlmaybe crack of dawn saturday06:33
tsimonq2It'll take me like six hours to intepret exactly what all of this is doing on my own.06:33
tsimonq2Sure, Saturday works.06:33
wxllike 6 my time06:33
tsimonq2wfm06:33
wxlthat's like 9 yours!06:33
tsimonq2806:33
wxlbah don't be a baby06:33
wxl:)06:33
wxlfine, 6:3006:34
tsimonq2Worst case scenario I'm having dinner with slangasek on Wednesday. XD06:34
wxlnice06:34
tsimonq2But yeah, 6:30 Eastern^MPacific works.06:34
tsimonq2XD06:34
wxlwhen you uscan i assume you -destdir something?06:35
tsimonq2Nope. ;)06:35
tsimonq2Regardless, I'm super happy with how this cycle's going. I think this is the most work-filled cycle Lubuntu has had in a while, at least since I joined.06:35
wxlwth sort of weird history expansion is that !(debian) business?06:36
wxlwell a lot of that has to do with you. i mean not only the work you're doing but steering the boat.06:36
tsimonq2I think you're right :)06:37
tsimonq2But I dunno, Bash just DTRT here06:37
tsimonq2¯\_(ツ)_/¯06:37
tsimonq2I seriously need to sleep06:37
tsimonq2bai06:37
wxlo/06:37
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wxlwould be nice if WE understood this better @tsimonq2 https://cmpwn.com/@sir/100565872170217951 XD15:16
wxl@tsimonq2: https://github.com/wizbright/waybox16:42
WizBrightoh hai16:46
wxloh now that's just funny.16:58
wxlhow long have you been lurking here WizBright ? :)16:58
WizBrightjust today lol17:02
WizBright:)17:02
wxlwell good to have you17:14
WizBrightI was interested when I saw the announcement17:15
wxli bet17:15
wxlit's all pretty new stuff17:15
wxlright now we're working hard at making the switch from lxde -> lxqt so that announcement is more future than anything but we've got it cooking on the back burner17:16
wxlWizBright: what's your normal distro of choice?17:19
WizBrightI'm on arch17:23
wxlwow not even a debian relative. thanks for giving us the time of day ;)17:24
WizBrightI've been on linux mint, debian (at one point, I think it was stable), and then arch for the past few years17:27
wxlhow's mir from aur?17:27
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WizBrightI haven't tried it to be honest.17:29
WizBrightI've been on openbox after I found it17:30
WizBrightI will give it a try17:30
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wxllove to hear what you think, especially given your openbox leanings17:30
sircmpwnhi there18:33
WizBrighto/ sircmpwn 18:39
wxlwow it's a mastoparty in here18:41
sircmpwnnice announcement today18:42
sircmpwnif you need any help with qtlayershell or wayland in general, feel free to ping me18:42
lubot5<tsimonq2> Hey hey hey :D18:43
lubot5<tsimonq2> Welcome to the party!18:43
wxlas i said to WizBright earlier, we're kind of looking into the distant future. this cycle, we're working really hard on the transition from lxde to lxqt. once that settles out, we can focus a little more on the wayland business18:43
sircmpwnlast time I spoke with lxqt about wayland they weren't particularly friendly18:43
sircmpwngood luck18:43
wxlyikes https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/1018:48
ubot93Issue 10 in lxqt/lxqt "Wayland support" [Open]18:48
lubot5<tsimonq2> They want to do it via KWin.18:50
lubot5<tsimonq2> I don't care if we have to freaking fork: I'm not doing it via KWin.18:50
WizBrightYeah, that issue is... a mess.18:53
lubot5<tsimonq2> I haven't read the whole thing to be honest.18:53
lubot5<tsimonq2> I noped out real quick when someone said "systemd"18:53
wxlit calms down a bit after a while18:53
lubot5<tsimonq2> Wow, look at this blog comment:18:54
lubot5"Emanuele Antonio Faraone18:54
lubot5When I saw that you are going to switch to Mir I immediately went to complete the italian translation in Weblate, just because now I believe again in Lubuntu and translating is the only way I can help!"18:54
wxlnice18:54
wxlnow if only we can make this all happen given other factors18:55
lubot5<tsimonq2> I don't think it'll be a problem.18:55
lubot5<tsimonq2> wxl: Good start on that packaging tutorial!19:00
wxl@tsimonq2: thanks. and thanks to you, i know a little bit more about pattern matching in bash :)19:08
lubot5Hans Möller was added by: Hans Möller21:07
lubot5<tsimonq2> Welcome!21:07
lubot5<Hans Möller> Thanks @tsimonq2 I hope I can help.21:08
wxl@Hans you need any help knowing how to help? :)21:14
lubot5<Hans Möller> If it exista todo list with expertices needed it will be helpfull. At this moment I have transalted to Spanish and some in German in weblate and some releases testings.21:16
wxlso you primarily want to help in translation, correct?21:16
wxli can't coerce you to become a tester or a developer? :)21:17
lubot5<Hans Möller> I've done some testing I have reported this bug, which at least form e is important https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openbox/+bug/1730411. I don't believe my skills in programming are enough to be a developer, and my time is also limited. In translation I don't see there are pending translations for Spanish in weblate (maybe I'm not looking in the correct place).21:19
lubot5<Hans Möller> I've also have some 32bit machines, In case they are needed for testing.21:20
wxlok, well it sounds like you're interested in any way you can help. that's a good sign :)21:21
wxlfirst things first: bug @tsimonq2 about anything related to translations. i suspect that weblate should pretty much take care of itself, but i'm not sure. i know he's also got translations for blog entries that are handled in a separate way. get him to explain it and we can make some documentation for others.21:22
lubot5<Hans Möller> 👍21:23
wxlsecondly, "developement" doesn't always mean "programming"21:23
wxlin fact, i'm working on a packaging guide that should instruct cli-friendly users on how to fix simple bugs21:23
wxlsometimes it means knowing where to look for things, but you can always ask. we'd be more than happy to walk you through fixing things21:24
wxlfor example, look at this: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D621:25
wxlbasically, it boils down to a 2-line change to a configuration file.21:26
wxlthose sorts of things exist out there21:26
wxlregarding testing, i would say that you should definitely be testing (especially on the 32 bit machines). certainly as we approach the release date, on a regular basis.21:26
wxlthe other thing we could really use is people going through every single function of every application to try to see if we can find some bugs. (that fix above is from such testing as i've been doing). i'm planning a bigger and more coordinated call to action about this, but there's no reason to wait21:27
lubot5<Hans Möller> Ok, I can do that.21:28
wxlnow let me look at this bug real quick21:28
lubot5<Hans Möller> the one I created in launchpad?21:29
wxlyes21:29
lubot5<Hans Möller> ok, In a 2 monitor environment with extended monitor. In lxde you cand chose different wallpapers for each monitor21:29
lubot5<Hans Möller> but in lxqt you can only chose 1 wallpaper.21:30
lubot5<tsimonq2> iirc upstream marked as "Won't Fix" on a technicality21:30
lubot5<tsimonq2> That's on my post Feature Freeze TODO list.21:30
wxlit's not won't fix currently is it?21:31
lubot5<tsimonq2> Upstream.21:31
lubot5<tsimonq2> I'm determined to fix it.21:31
lubot5<tsimonq2> Unless you wanted to.21:32
wxlyou're saying openbox21:32
wxllooking at the upstream bug (time has changed) maybe it's not21:32
lubot5<tsimonq2> I can't tell if it's an openbox thing or LXQt thing.21:32
lubot5<tsimonq2> Probably the latter.21:32
lubot5<Hans Möller> It shouldn't be openbox, I can chose 2 different ones now with openbox+lxde21:33
lubot5<Hans Möller> from what i've read is not an easy fix https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/117521:33
wxli would advise changing the description to make it clear than openbox+lxde works fine but openbox+lxqt does not21:34
wxlit also might be interesting to swap in another window manager (kwin might be a good choice) and see what happens21:35
wxlyou could do that in a vm and it should behave appropriately if you set up the vm correctly21:35
wxlOH21:37
wxlit's pcmanfm-qt21:37
wxlhttps://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/1175#issuecomment-25385117921:37
ubot93Issue 1175 in lxqt/lxqt "Wallpaper settings should treat multiple screens correctly" [Open]21:37
lubot5<Hans Möller> ok, I will do that. Anyway, I was thinking in a workaround which is an application that "merges" 2 wallpapers in one big. And you can use the big one as wallpaper, like this https://github.com/GabMus/HydraPaper/21:38
wxlremember we run pcmanfm-qt --desktop --profile=lxqt or which21:38
wxl^^^^ @tsimonq2 21:38
wxli wonder what happens if you don't use --desktop21:44
wxlthat might be something to try, too21:44
wxlyou'd have to kill the running pcmanfm-qt process and you'd want to keep the --profile=lxqt switch when you run it again21:45
wxlby the way hans it would be useful to file bugs with `ubuntu-bug some-package` because it will pull in some additional information. that said, what is the most recent version of lubuntu/pcmanfm-qt you have tested this with?21:46
lubot5<Hans Möller> I haven't tested in a while I believe I tested it in 17.10. Tonight (Chile time GMT-3 now) I will make a test environment to test21:49
wxli think it would be best to try it out in one of the dailies21:49
wxlsince "lubuntu-next" isn't really well supported21:49
wxlwell, it's not supported XD21:49
lubot5<Hans Möller> jajaj, yes I have donwloaded one to do the tests.21:50
wxlunfortunately hydra-paper is gtk :/21:50
lubot5<Hans Möller> yes, but the principle might be usefull as a workaround.21:54
lubot5<Hans Möller> I mean, paste 2 wallpapers side by side.21:54
wxllooks like feh can do it https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Feh#Set_the_wallpaper21:55
lubot5<Hans Möller> ok, I will add it to the "to-test" list21:56
wxlahhh there's a larger list https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_applications#Wallpaper_setters21:56
wxli'll add this stuff to that bug but if you come up with a brilliant solution, let us know21:57
wxli do not usually use two monitors so you better than me!21:57
lubot5<Hans Möller> 👍21:58
wxlhey @tsimonq2 did we get the build depends for calamares/password stuff?22:01
lubot5<tsimonq2> @wxl, We did but it's stuck with Qt.22:02
wxlwhatcha mean?22:02
lubot5<tsimonq2> Feature Freeze only applies to new stuff in proposed, not stuck stuff.22:02
lubot5<tsimonq2> calamares won't migrate until Qt does.22:02
wxloh22:02
wxlright22:02
wxlduh22:02
wxlok tomorrow morning22:02
lubot5<tsimonq2> Yup.22:02
wxlk did you see what i said above about docs for translations? especially as we are pulling people in because of mir, we need to make it clear how to contribute. do we need to do anything on the backend to maintain the work to be done on weblate btw?22:03
lubot5<tsimonq2> Not really.22:04
lubot5<tsimonq2> I'll document it this afternoon.22:04
lubot5<tsimonq2> Then I want to get everything that we can't get in via a Feature Freeze loophole done.22:05
wxlok. make sure to deal with whatever we need to do for the blog posts22:05
wxlmeanwhile i'll work on making hans a developer :)22:05
lubot5<Hans Möller> @wxl, 👍22:12
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wxl@Hans you might want to glance at this and make sure it looks good.. and translate it, too! https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/translating/23:23
wxl@tsimonq2: is there some sort of different language options to phab?23:23
tsimonq2wxl: There's the blog, but I was just going to ask you what your workflow is for submitting to Phab.23:24
tsimonq2Because for translating to the blog, that's not something Weblate supports. :/23:24
wxl@tsimonq2: what do you mean? submitting what exactly?23:24
tsimonq2wxl: Submitting translated blog posts.23:25
wxloh well i haven't worked one out yet but i'm sure i'll just vi my way through it23:25
wxland either use git or arc23:25
tsimonq2wxl: The current workflow is "add it to a YAML array and stick a specially-named Markdown file in this one directory."23:25
tsimonq2So, I'm curious to see if we can make a generic guide for submitting patches with Phab.23:25
wxlyeah and that's not super friendly but it's what we got for now23:26
tsimonq2Right.23:26
tsimonq2@Wolfenprey's getting the hang of it it seems.23:26
wxlarc diff should be the way to do it23:26
tsimonq2arc diff just DTRT?23:29
wxlpretty much23:31
wxli mean it does all the stuff for you23:31
wxlyou know all you have to do is make changes to a git repo, git add -A, then arc diff23:31
wxldone23:31
tsimonq2Do you have to git add?23:31
wxlactually i'm not even sure that's necessary23:31
wxli'm just anal about doing it23:32
tsimonq2ah23:32
wxlit will also keep users from having to answer questions they're not sure about23:32
wxlgit add -A is unambiguous23:32
wxlwe should look at changing the template for diffusion for that repo23:32
wxldon't know if that's a thing or not but we definately don't need "test plan"23:33
wxland perhaps it should make you the default subscriber?23:33
tsimonq2Oh and also, I went through and manually edited everything, but visibility is set to "All Users" not "Public"23:33
wxloh not diffusion23:33
wxldifferential sorry23:33
wxlhttps://secure.phabricator.com/T1227623:34
wxlOHHHH so THAT"S why the arc docs mention git commit. it can fill out the templates23:35
wxlhttps://secure.phabricator.com/w/guides/arcanist_workflows/#facebook-workflow23:35
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rDEFAULTSETTINGS51d5e2fa9693: Use lxqt-sudo instead of pkexec as switch user command.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGS51d5e2fa969323:40
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tsimonq2wxl: Pretty darn cool that Facebook is using Phab too.23:45
* wxl shrugs23:49
wxldepending on your perspective :)23:49
wxlit WILL mean that they'll get things changed23:49
wxli can just see it now:23:49
wxljoe-blow-open-source: hey, can you add this feature?23:49
wxlphab: ain't nobody got time for that?23:49
wxlfacebook: but we'd like that feature, too23:50
tsimonq2KDE has the same deal going on.23:50
wxlphab: yes, sir, how high would you like me to jump?!23:50
tsimonq2Paid support trumps all.23:50
wxlspeaking of which my new thing is to go to my favorite local coffee roaster and get their fantastic breakfast sandwich every morning while i work on lubuntu stuff. so when are you going to start reimbursing me? XD23:51
tsimonq2wxl: When the whole Lubuntu.net bs is dealt with. ;)23:51
wxli know, i was kidding23:51
tsimonq2XD23:51
wxli mean, realistically, i'm pretty cheap :)23:52
wxli like my coffee black, after all23:52
tsimonq2hahahaha23:52
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