/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2018/08/17/#ubports.txt

ubptgbotLevis Raju was added by: Levis Raju04:08
ubptgbot<Levis Raju> I am trying to make it work on Redmi 2 Prime / Wingtech wt8804704:08
ubptgbot<Levis Raju> I am a complete newbie04:09
ubptgbot<Levis Raju> I am following the halium guide04:09
ubptgbot<vince1171> @Levis Raju, @halium for halium question :)06:10
ubptgbot<jonny> good luck!06:21
ubptgbotPaul Reiter was added by: Paul Reiter06:51
ubptgbot<Levis Raju> Thnx bro and thanks for giving me the gp link07:31
ubptgbot<Levis Raju> I need help installing Ubuntu touch07:32
ubptgbot<PartTimer> How to apps via libertine07:36
ubptgbot<PartTimer> [Edit] How to install  … apps via libertine07:36
ubptgbot<PartTimer> Which error bugging progress is going on in 16.04???07:53
ubptgbotGerard Arnau Codina was added by: Gerard Arnau Codina08:10
ubptgbot<Gerard Arnau Codina> Good morning. Would anyone recommend me a 2017/2018 smartphone to try to port halium and ubports to?08:11
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Gerard Arnau Codina, Hi, I can't recommend you an exact device model but maybe you can take a look at the current porting efforts in progress and see if you can help with any of them? https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/issues08:17
ubptgbot<Gerard Arnau Codina> Thanks!08:24
ubptgbot<advocatux> You're welcome!08:28
ubptgbot<PartTimer> Installed 16.04  … No new changes and bug fixes  … Better stick with 15.0409:25
ubptgbot<Waldbursche> Is there the same sms-app bug under 16.04 such as 15.04 ?09:27
ubptgbot<Waldbursche> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/6yopiQBE.png09:27
ubptgbot<PartTimer> Still Shame bug09:31
ubptgbot<advocatux> @PartTimer, Please, don't tell lies. I could remove your post but I think it's better to leave it to show your poor troll attempt. … Anyone can check here https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestones that more than 128 bugs has been fixed09:32
ubptgbot<advocatux> Consider this a warning too. If you keep trolling, you'll be banned again09:32
ubptgbot<PartTimer> @advocatux, Iam talking about visual bug09:33
ubptgbot<PartTimer> Camera bug, browser render bug calender bug, notes app bug, message bug,ete09:33
ubptgbot<PartTimer> [Edit] Camera bug, browser render bug calender bug, notes app bug, message bug,etc09:34
ubptgbot<advocatux> You can help fix any bug you don't like09:34
ubptgbot<PartTimer> @advocatux, Iam already helping09:36
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Waldbursche, I don't know about what bug are you talking exactly. Can you link here the bug report? Thank you09:37
ubptgbot<advocatux> @PartTimer, Then you know that fixes don't happen by magic09:37
ubptgbot<PartTimer> @advocatux, And warning me don't help either09:38
ubptgbot<advocatux> Yes, I know, because you have been warned and banned several times, and here you are again making false claims and wasting everybody's time09:41
ubptgbot<PartTimer> Admit it09:41
ubptgbot<Waldbursche> @advocatux, When i edit the search-field at the sms-app, the search-results are overlapping and unuseable. Sorry for my bad english. 😊09:44
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Waldbursche, Don't worry, English is not my first language either :) … Ah, I see the issue now. Wait a sec, please, I'm going to test it in my xenial device09:46
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Waldbursche yes, I'm seeing that issue in a BQ E4.5 (16.04 devel) too. Do you know if it's reported already?09:49
ubptgbot<Waldbursche> @advocatux, I can't find the correct bug-report-website for sms-app09:50
ubptgbot<advocatux> I'm seeing now that most sms related issues are reported in the main bug tracker https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+sms09:53
ubptgbot<Waldbursche> I write an report09:53
ubptgbot<advocatux> Thank you09:54
ubptgbot<sap_nocops> https://github.com/ubports/messaging-app09:54
ubptgbot<advocatux> Ah, thank you Lorenzo!09:54
ubptgbot<Waldbursche> 👍🏼09:54
ubptgbot<advocatux> https://github.com/ubports/messaging-app/issues/209:55
ubptgbot<PartTimer> Hmm09:55
ubptgbot<Waldbursche> @advocatux, Confirmed09:57
ubptgbot<Javacookies> yeah, I believe the bug has been there since Canonical days09:58
ubptgbot<Javacookies> maybe someone here has to step up to fix it 😁09:58
ubptgbot<advocatux> Yep, and it seems the main issue is that that app doesn't have a maintaniner09:59
ubptgbot<advocatux> [Edit] Yep, and it seems the main issue is that that app doesn't have a maintainer09:59
ubptgbot<Waldbursche> @Javacookies, The search - function was already fine here. I see the bug since a few weeks.10:00
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Javacookies, Oh, I see a volunteer!! 😂10:05
ubptgbot<Javacookies> you know what? I think I can if it's a simple QML file and not C++ :)10:06
ubptgbot<advocatux> Yeah, I believe in you! You can do it!10:07
ubptgbot<Javacookies> tell me the path of the SMS qml files...I'll check it directly on my Nexus 5 😜10:10
ubptgbot<Javacookies> messaging-app is a deb right?10:10
ubptgbot<advocatux> I think so10:11
ubptgbot<Javacookies> found it 😀10:17
ubptgbot<Javacookies> (Photo, 993x326) https://irc.ubports.com/ztXXrvkt.png10:17
ubptgbot<advocatux> \o/ You're the man!10:18
ubptgbot<markvesime> @advocatux, no-one would ever guess - from all the posts I've read, so compliments to you10:21
ubptgbot<advocatux> @markvesime, Thank you! 😊 … (Spanish is my first language)10:22
ubptgbot<markvesime> ...on the other hand, Samuel Beckett wrote beautiful French but spoke it with a strong Dublin accent....that part is harder!10:23
ubptgbot<advocatux> Yep, that's right. I even speak Spanish with some Southern accent 😆10:25
ubptgbot<Javacookies> (Photo, 611x222) https://irc.ubports.com/OWJyz0u0.png11:56
ubptgbot<Javacookies> I'm x forwarding and I got an sms and this showed up … didn't know this is supported LOL11:56
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> eh?11:57
ubptgbot<Javacookies> it's even on top of my qt creator window so not sure who displayed that...maybe the x server itself even though I chose to have separate windows11:59
ubptgbot<Javacookies> I meant that's on my desktop if that's not clear 😅12:00
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Javacookies, you're running notification-daemon somehow on the device i guess, and it got the notification over dbus12:04
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> coool12:05
ubptgbot<Javacookies> yeah, that seems what happened...I even tried it again and called my phone LOL12:08
ubptgbot<Javacookies> @advocatux, this bug is more complex than I thought 😅 … it's kinda badly written? … it just hides non-results by setting the height to 0....12:40
ubptgbot<Javacookies> (Photo, 1217x532) https://irc.ubports.com/qM4JiCFv.png12:40
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Javacookies, No idea. Have you asked in the App Dev group?12:46
ubptgbot<Javacookies> not yet....but I'll do when my brain goes to a dead end 😂12:50
ubptgbotnomadologist was added by: nomadologist12:57
ubptgbot<advocatux> 😂13:08
ubptgbot<advocatux> @nomadologist, Hi Yulugi, welcome to UBports! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started14:05
ubptgbot<dohbee> @advocatux, so did you ban that person again?14:10
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> They're banned now14:11
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> They left on their own accord but now they can't come back14:11
ubptgbot<advocatux> That's right14:11
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Or join any groups, really... … The "Report Spam" check when you delete a message is a catch-all "broke Telegram rules", and I'm pretty sure that using multiple accounts to evade bans is breaking Telegram rules14:12
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> So check that box and it further restricts their account so they can't damage other groups14:13
ubptgbot<Javacookies> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/8Nrp6zT4.png15:27
ubptgbot<Javacookies> Good news!15:28
ubptgbot<Javacookies> but I still think the search needs to be rewritten...is it really okay that the search process happens for each list item? isn't that slow?15:29
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Javacookies yeah, I knew you're the one to carry this mission to complete success! Kudos!!15:29
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Javacookies, Yep, probably, but you can tag your solution as good enough :P15:30
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Javacookies, i don't know what exactly it's doing there, but yes, actual search should probably be implemented in the backend, not as a javascript filter function inside the QML15:31
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @Javacookies, Well... is it slow?15:31
ubptgbot<Javacookies> I can't say yet because I only have a few on my Nexus 515:32
ubptgbot<Javacookies> I'll apply my code on my bq E5 and see how it handles 3 years of messages 😀15:32
ubptgbot<advocatux> Have a fan at hand, just in case 😋15:33
ubptgbot<Javacookies> just applied it there (Thanks Seabass 😀 ) … and yeah it is slow, the results show almost one by one and takes a lot of time before it seem it's finished15:47
ubptgbot<Javacookies> oh well...the messaging app has always been really SLOOOOW on my bq E5 in general.....that's why I want a new powerful phone 😀15:48
ubptgbot<advocatux> :)15:50
ubptgbot<Javacookies> I'm actually surprised that the search function is quite good...it searches all your messages and when you open the thread you get to that point already15:51
ubptgbot<Javacookies> oh well.....I'm going home now...my "work" is done here 😂15:52
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Javacookies, Yes, enjoy a big glass of your favourite beverage to celebrate a well done job16:09
ubptgbot<mattbel10> @Javacookies, Kudos @Javacookies you made a great job! If you don't mind when I'll be back from holidays I'll ask you how to change the code for a core app and update the app on your phone....I didn't succeeded up to now but I'm a newbie at these things...so probably I didn't understand the whole process16:17
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/mir-news-17th-august-2018/761816:21
ubptgbot<advocatux> \o/16:22
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> Desktop … There’s a recent announcement by lubuntu that they plan to migrate to using Mir: “… We are going to do this by porting Openbox to use the Mir display server, Drew DeVault’s QtLayerShell, and other associated bits.” A great choice! … Phone … One of the UBports developers has started work on updating their “android”2 M16:23
ubptgbotir platform to the current version of Mir. … When complete this will enable them to run a modern (Wayland capable) Mir on the phone with obvious benefits to their goal of supporting desktop applications.16:23
ubptgbot<AresMinos> \¤/16:42
ubptgbot<Javacookies> awesome news!16:46
ubptgbot<Javacookies> @mattbel10, it's easy if it's just qml apps because you don't need to recompile, just save and run😉16:47
ubptgbot<Javacookies> and also, note that what I did is not advisable, I directly modofied my messaging app files 😂16:47
ubptgbot<dohbee> yeah, it's ok for testing a thing or two, but not how fixes are applied16:49
ubptgbot<dohbee> needs a PR on github :)16:49
ubptgbot<mattbel10> @Javacookies, Oh straight on your phone? How is so? I thought there should be an executable file somewhere to be compiled... isn't it the case? And if there were some C++ files and not pure Qml?16:50
ubptgbot<dohbee> @mattbel10, C++ would require recompiling. Or so would a C++ app that embeds QML as resources, rather than loading QML from disk16:51
ubptgbot<Javacookies> @dohbee, I'll do that when I get home 😁16:51
ubptgbot<Javacookies> some app still have qml files even though they have C++ bits, those QML files can be easily modifed though mostly are just for UI logic16:52
ubptgbot<dohbee> really, the answer is "it depends"16:53
ubptgbot<mattbel10> @dohbee, Gotcha! Thank you for the hint to both of you :)16:53
ubptgbot<Javacookies> the real answer for all questions is "it depends" 😆16:53
ubptgbot<dohbee> blame Heisenburg16:54
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Javacookies, That, and '42' 😉16:55
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> speaking of which how much storage space/ram does the bq e5 have?17:10
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> hehe nice one17:10
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> funny thing about 42.....17:10
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> "it take 42 folds of paper to get to the moon"17:10
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Fuseteam, not 4217:12
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> lmao17:28
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Hey @Fuseteam... On but off topic. What do you like to do? I see you around all the time but I don't know terribly much about what you're passionate about17:37
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> haha i would like to use ut as my work device i suppose17:50
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> i'm kind of passionate/pondering building a keyboard for ut that would able to input all of unicode i could say the biggest hurdle there would be the different script as far i can picture it17:51
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> i'm called passionate for finger binary and i help out with promoting donghua as well17:51
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> but in the context of this group i'm rather passionate in supporting unity and ut tho i have no idea how i can support yet as i have no means to do so monetarily i only have student level experience with java c++ and web dev langs17:51
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> i'm currently looking for a good phone that i can afford to get experience flashing/porting ut touch to it i'm considering the nokia 1 but that doesn't have an unlocker yet and has half the resources needed, other devices i'm considering are the pro5 en the m10 but i don't think i can afford either just yet17:51
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Honestly I wouldn't buy a phone just to port it on that budget17:52
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Fuseteam, the existing OSK can handle all of unicode just fine i think17:53
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @Fuseteam, So you don't have any Ubuntu Touch device?17:54
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> ohw i also am interesting in "cleaning up" scopes but yeah haven't had the time to study the code just yet hehe c̶l̶e̶a̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶c̶l̶e̶a̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶m̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶s̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶y̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶b̶e̶c̶o̶m̶e̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶f̶u̶l̶l̶17:57
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> tldr; promoting programming porting finger binary!17:57
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> uh no not at the moment17:57
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Hmm17:58
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> and i'm referring to an unicode input method not that many people need access to all 128000 characters hehehe18:00
ubptgbot<dohbee> eww scopes18:00
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Fuseteam, well sure. there are definitely some improvements that need to be made to the keyboard to make it easier to switch languages and such.18:01
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> two reasons i'm in love unity is basically convergence and the hud btw hehe18:03
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> and well ubuntu12.04 was the first linux i tried it stucked ever since am on 16.04 at this point because i refuse to upgrade to 18.04 due to lack of unity ;)18:03
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> sounds like a good starting point for me hehehe18:03
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Fuseteam, unity is still in 18.0418:04
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @UniversalSuperBox, yeah i was thinking that too but uh yeah my phone needs replacing hehe18:05
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @dohbee, also lol18:05
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @dohbee, yeah but i don't have enough experience switching DE's at this point so i'd rather test installing it somewhere first before upgrading which leeway i don't have atm :p18:07
ubptgbot<dohbee> you don't need to switch18:08
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> ohw?18:08
ubptgbot<dohbee> anyway, that is definitely getting OT :)18:09
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> xD18:09
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> but yeah so far i'm been getting or trying to get a mental image of how things work, what it could use/need and how i can eventually help with code ofc hehe cause that what i like to do hehe18:12
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @Fuseteam, Can I PM you?18:14
ubptgbot<technicalbird> All the issues are completed for backlog as well as OTA-4.. what's the expected date for OTA-4??18:33
ubptgbot<advocatux> @technicalbird, In https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestones currently says «Due by August 31, 2018», so if there isn't a change of plans... 😉18:36
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> wut 👀18:37
ubptgbot<technicalbird> @advocatux, Why need to wait? When you completed all the work?18:37
ubptgbot<dohbee> stuff has to be tested18:38
ubptgbot<advocatux> Fixed issues are not the only improvements18:38
ubptgbot<technicalbird> More over OTA-5 is the one which will be next OTA for 15.04..18:38
ubptgbot<advocatux> Yeah, now there's a QA testing to see everything is working properly18:39
ubptgbot<technicalbird> Isn't the issues are closed after QA TEST??18:39
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Issues are closed to move to QA18:39
ubptgbot<dohbee> @technicalbird, you test the individual issues then, not the devices as a whole18:39
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I'll find the docs18:39
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Here you go: http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/about/process/issue-tracking.html#bug-lifecycle18:40
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> But yes, full system functionality testing is also needed and it's difficult to rally people around that until you're nearly ready to release18:40
ubptgbot<Flohack> @technicalbird, We have multiple layers of testing. The developer needs to test himself. But as we saw with the wizard bug this week, not all issues are found by the devs themselves.18:40
ubptgbot<Flohack> Also not all devs have all devices at home18:40
ubptgbot<Flohack> Testing is a complicated matter for such a variety of devices18:40
ubptgbot<dohbee> also string/ui changes require translation/docs changes18:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> altø altø wik18:41
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> well looks like we have quite a Q & A to look forward to tommorow18:42
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @UniversalSuperBox, @Fuseteam impatient ping18:42
ubptgbot<technicalbird> Ok.. I had different understanding of issue closure!! Now it's clarified..18:42
ubptgbot<dohbee> also i totally forgot to open that nexus 5 issue :-/18:43
ubptgbot<technicalbird> So now the question would be what's the cooling period in the sense? How many days you want to wait before next OTA?18:43
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Right, the "close/open" binary form of GitHub is annoying. That's something that Launchpad got right, issue states at a glance.18:43
ubptgbot<dohbee> @UniversalSuperBox, lp still lacked some stuff there. github has nothing. i'm not sure what gitlab has. and JIRA is great for masochists18:44
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Github has the kanban system, though, which we use to say when things are in QA18:45
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/projects/318:45
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> hm?18:45
ubptgbot<advocatux> Just to clarify: … * QA -> Quality assurance … * Q&A -> Questions & Answers (Live show)18:45
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @Fuseteam, That for me? I'd like to PM you about things pertaining to my questions earlier18:46
ubptgbot<dohbee> oh right, at least it has a kanban i guess, but ick18:46
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> And no, I don't barge on PMs anyone who's about to ask18:46
ubptgbot<dohbee> the fact it's not integrated with the issue tracking is not nice18:46
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Well, it is18:46
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> We have automation that moves things to QA after they're closed18:46
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> oki feel free to do so 😆18:46
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> lol18:47
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> And the status of an issue in the board is shown on the issue18:47
ubptgbot<dohbee> @UniversalSuperBox, right, but the status of the issue on the kanban is not visible in the issue itself. so it's not integrated.18:47
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> ye it is18:47
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> is it?18:48
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/29618:48
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> (Photo, 367x494) https://irc.ubports.com/T4r0tLZG.png18:48
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Now, that bar isn't how far the issue is along the board18:49
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> ohw i think rodney was reffering to the issue list under........issues lol18:49
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> It's how far the project is to completion18:49
ubptgbot<dohbee> it's also a really tiny bit of text to look for amongst all the noise on the issue page18:49
ubptgbot<dohbee> compared to the massive red [CLOSED] badge right under the issue title.18:50
ubptgbot<dohbee> anyway, i guess moaning about github is offtopic :)18:51
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Fuseteam, well, issue list, searches, etc18:51
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> haha true18:52

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