[04:08] <ubptgbot> Levis Raju was added by: Levis Raju
[04:08] <ubptgbot> <Levis Raju> I am trying to make it work on Redmi 2 Prime / Wingtech wt88047
[04:09] <ubptgbot> <Levis Raju> I am a complete newbie
[04:09] <ubptgbot> <Levis Raju> I am following the halium guide
 @Levis Raju, @halium for halium question :)
 good luck!
[06:51] <ubptgbot> Paul Reiter was added by: Paul Reiter
[07:31] <ubptgbot> <Levis Raju> Thnx bro and thanks for giving me the gp link
[07:32] <ubptgbot> <Levis Raju> I need help installing Ubuntu touch
 How to apps via libertine
 [Edit] How to install  … apps via libertine
 Which error bugging progress is going on in 16.04???
[08:10] <ubptgbot> Gerard Arnau Codina was added by: Gerard Arnau Codina
[08:11] <ubptgbot> <Gerard Arnau Codina> Good morning. Would anyone recommend me a 2017/2018 smartphone to try to port halium and ubports to?
 @Gerard Arnau Codina, Hi, I can't recommend you an exact device model but maybe you can take a look at the current porting efforts in progress and see if you can help with any of them? https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/issues
[08:24] <ubptgbot> <Gerard Arnau Codina> Thanks!
 You're welcome!
 Installed 16.04  … No new changes and bug fixes  … Better stick with 15.04
 Is there the same sms-app bug under 16.04 such as 15.04 ?
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/6yopiQBE.png
 Still Shame bug
 @PartTimer, Please, don't tell lies. I could remove your post but I think it's better to leave it to show your poor troll attempt. … Anyone can check here https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestones that more than 128 bugs has been fixed
 Consider this a warning too. If you keep trolling, you'll be banned again
 @advocatux, Iam talking about visual bug
 Camera bug, browser render bug calender bug, notes app bug, message bug,ete
 [Edit] Camera bug, browser render bug calender bug, notes app bug, message bug,etc
 You can help fix any bug you don't like
 @advocatux, Iam already helping
 @Waldbursche, I don't know about what bug are you talking exactly. Can you link here the bug report? Thank you
 @PartTimer, Then you know that fixes don't happen by magic
 @advocatux, And warning me don't help either
 Yes, I know, because you have been warned and banned several times, and here you are again making false claims and wasting everybody's time
 Admit it
 @advocatux, When i edit the search-field at the sms-app, the search-results are overlapping and unuseable. Sorry for my bad english. 😊
 @Waldbursche, Don't worry, English is not my first language either :) … Ah, I see the issue now. Wait a sec, please, I'm going to test it in my xenial device
 @Waldbursche yes, I'm seeing that issue in a BQ E4.5 (16.04 devel) too. Do you know if it's reported already?
 @advocatux, I can't find the correct bug-report-website for sms-app
 I'm seeing now that most sms related issues are reported in the main bug tracker https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+sms
 I write an report
 Thank you
 https://github.com/ubports/messaging-app
 Ah, thank you Lorenzo!
 👍🏼
 https://github.com/ubports/messaging-app/issues/2
 Hmm
 @advocatux, Confirmed
 yeah, I believe the bug has been there since Canonical days
 maybe someone here has to step up to fix it 😁
 Yep, and it seems the main issue is that that app doesn't have a maintaniner
 [Edit] Yep, and it seems the main issue is that that app doesn't have a maintainer
 @Javacookies, The search - function was already fine here. I see the bug since a few weeks.
 @Javacookies, Oh, I see a volunteer!! 😂
 you know what? I think I can if it's a simple QML file and not C++ :)
 Yeah, I believe in you! You can do it!
 tell me the path of the SMS qml files...I'll check it directly on my Nexus 5 😜
 messaging-app is a deb right?
 I think so
 found it 😀
 (Photo, 993x326) https://irc.ubports.com/ztXXrvkt.png
 \o/ You're the man!
 @advocatux, no-one would ever guess - from all the posts I've read, so compliments to you
 @markvesime, Thank you! 😊 … (Spanish is my first language)
 ...on the other hand, Samuel Beckett wrote beautiful French but spoke it with a strong Dublin accent....that part is harder!
 Yep, that's right. I even speak Spanish with some Southern accent 😆
 (Photo, 611x222) https://irc.ubports.com/OWJyz0u0.png
 I'm x forwarding and I got an sms and this showed up … didn't know this is supported LOL
 eh?
 it's even on top of my qt creator window so not sure who displayed that...maybe the x server itself even though I chose to have separate windows
 I meant that's on my desktop if that's not clear 😅
 @Javacookies, you're running notification-daemon somehow on the device i guess, and it got the notification over dbus
 coool
 yeah, that seems what happened...I even tried it again and called my phone LOL
 @advocatux, this bug is more complex than I thought 😅 … it's kinda badly written? … it just hides non-results by setting the height to 0....
 (Photo, 1217x532) https://irc.ubports.com/qM4JiCFv.png
 @Javacookies, No idea. Have you asked in the App Dev group?
 not yet....but I'll do when my brain goes to a dead end 😂
[12:57] <ubptgbot> nomadologist was added by: nomadologist
 😂
 @nomadologist, Hi Yulugi, welcome to UBports! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started
 @advocatux, so did you ban that person again?
 They're banned now
 They left on their own accord but now they can't come back
 That's right
 Or join any groups, really... … The "Report Spam" check when you delete a message is a catch-all "broke Telegram rules", and I'm pretty sure that using multiple accounts to evade bans is breaking Telegram rules
 So check that box and it further restricts their account so they can't damage other groups
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/8Nrp6zT4.png
 Good news!
 but I still think the search needs to be rewritten...is it really okay that the search process happens for each list item? isn't that slow?
 @Javacookies yeah, I knew you're the one to carry this mission to complete success! Kudos!!
 @Javacookies, Yep, probably, but you can tag your solution as good enough :P
 @Javacookies, i don't know what exactly it's doing there, but yes, actual search should probably be implemented in the backend, not as a javascript filter function inside the QML
 @Javacookies, Well... is it slow?
 I can't say yet because I only have a few on my Nexus 5
 I'll apply my code on my bq E5 and see how it handles 3 years of messages 😀
 Have a fan at hand, just in case 😋
 just applied it there (Thanks Seabass 😀 ) … and yeah it is slow, the results show almost one by one and takes a lot of time before it seem it's finished
 oh well...the messaging app has always been really SLOOOOW on my bq E5 in general.....that's why I want a new powerful phone 😀
 :)
 I'm actually surprised that the search function is quite good...it searches all your messages and when you open the thread you get to that point already
 oh well.....I'm going home now...my "work" is done here 😂
 @Javacookies, Yes, enjoy a big glass of your favourite beverage to celebrate a well done job
 @Javacookies, Kudos @Javacookies you made a great job! If you don't mind when I'll be back from holidays I'll ask you how to change the code for a core app and update the app on your phone....I didn't succeeded up to now but I'm a newbie at these things...so probably I didn't understand the whole process
 https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/mir-news-17th-august-2018/7618
 \o/
 Desktop … There’s a recent announcement by lubuntu that they plan to migrate to using Mir: “… We are going to do this by porting Openbox to use the Mir display server, Drew DeVault’s QtLayerShell, and other associated bits.” A great choice! … Phone … One of the UBports developers has started work on updating their “android”2 M
[16:23] <ubptgbot> ir platform to the current version of Mir. … When complete this will enable them to run a modern (Wayland capable) Mir on the phone with obvious benefits to their goal of supporting desktop applications.
 \¤/
 awesome news!
 @mattbel10, it's easy if it's just qml apps because you don't need to recompile, just save and run😉
 and also, note that what I did is not advisable, I directly modofied my messaging app files 😂
 yeah, it's ok for testing a thing or two, but not how fixes are applied
 needs a PR on github :)
 @Javacookies, Oh straight on your phone? How is so? I thought there should be an executable file somewhere to be compiled... isn't it the case? And if there were some C++ files and not pure Qml?
 @mattbel10, C++ would require recompiling. Or so would a C++ app that embeds QML as resources, rather than loading QML from disk
 @dohbee, I'll do that when I get home 😁
 some app still have qml files even though they have C++ bits, those QML files can be easily modifed though mostly are just for UI logic
 really, the answer is "it depends"
 @dohbee, Gotcha! Thank you for the hint to both of you :)
 the real answer for all questions is "it depends" 😆
 blame Heisenburg
 @Javacookies, That, and '42' 😉
 speaking of which how much storage space/ram does the bq e5 have?
 hehe nice one
 funny thing about 42.....
 "it take 42 folds of paper to get to the moon"
 @Fuseteam, not 42
 lmao
 Hey @Fuseteam... On but off topic. What do you like to do? I see you around all the time but I don't know terribly much about what you're passionate about
 haha i would like to use ut as my work device i suppose
 i'm kind of passionate/pondering building a keyboard for ut that would able to input all of unicode i could say the biggest hurdle there would be the different script as far i can picture it
 i'm called passionate for finger binary and i help out with promoting donghua as well
 but in the context of this group i'm rather passionate in supporting unity and ut tho i have no idea how i can support yet as i have no means to do so monetarily i only have student level experience with java c++ and web dev langs
 i'm currently looking for a good phone that i can afford to get experience flashing/porting ut touch to it i'm considering the nokia 1 but that doesn't have an unlocker yet and has half the resources needed, other devices i'm considering are the pro5 en the m10 but i don't think i can afford either just yet
 Honestly I wouldn't buy a phone just to port it on that budget
 @Fuseteam, the existing OSK can handle all of unicode just fine i think
 @Fuseteam, So you don't have any Ubuntu Touch device?
 ohw i also am interesting in "cleaning up" scopes but yeah haven't had the time to study the code just yet hehe c̶l̶e̶a̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶c̶l̶e̶a̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶m̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶s̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶y̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶b̶e̶c̶o̶m̶e̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶f̶u̶l̶l̶
 tldr; promoting programming porting finger binary!
 uh no not at the moment
 Hmm
 and i'm referring to an unicode input method not that many people need access to all 128000 characters hehehe
 eww scopes
 @Fuseteam, well sure. there are definitely some improvements that need to be made to the keyboard to make it easier to switch languages and such.
 two reasons i'm in love unity is basically convergence and the hud btw hehe
 and well ubuntu12.04 was the first linux i tried it stucked ever since am on 16.04 at this point because i refuse to upgrade to 18.04 due to lack of unity ;)
 sounds like a good starting point for me hehehe
 @Fuseteam, unity is still in 18.04
 @UniversalSuperBox, yeah i was thinking that too but uh yeah my phone needs replacing hehe
 @dohbee, also lol
 @dohbee, yeah but i don't have enough experience switching DE's at this point so i'd rather test installing it somewhere first before upgrading which leeway i don't have atm :p
 you don't need to switch
 ohw?
 anyway, that is definitely getting OT :)
 xD
 but yeah so far i'm been getting or trying to get a mental image of how things work, what it could use/need and how i can eventually help with code ofc hehe cause that what i like to do hehe
 @Fuseteam, Can I PM you?
 All the issues are completed for backlog as well as OTA-4.. what's the expected date for OTA-4??
 @technicalbird, In https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestones currently says «Due by August 31, 2018», so if there isn't a change of plans... 😉
 wut 👀
 @advocatux, Why need to wait? When you completed all the work?
 stuff has to be tested
 Fixed issues are not the only improvements
 More over OTA-5 is the one which will be next OTA for 15.04..
 Yeah, now there's a QA testing to see everything is working properly
 Isn't the issues are closed after QA TEST??
 Issues are closed to move to QA
 @technicalbird, you test the individual issues then, not the devices as a whole
 I'll find the docs
 Here you go: http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/about/process/issue-tracking.html#bug-lifecycle
 But yes, full system functionality testing is also needed and it's difficult to rally people around that until you're nearly ready to release
 @technicalbird, We have multiple layers of testing. The developer needs to test himself. But as we saw with the wizard bug this week, not all issues are found by the devs themselves.
 Also not all devs have all devices at home
 Testing is a complicated matter for such a variety of devices
 also string/ui changes require translation/docs changes
 altø altø wik
 well looks like we have quite a Q & A to look forward to tommorow
 @UniversalSuperBox, @Fuseteam impatient ping
 Ok.. I had different understanding of issue closure!! Now it's clarified..
 also i totally forgot to open that nexus 5 issue :-/
 So now the question would be what's the cooling period in the sense? How many days you want to wait before next OTA?
 Right, the "close/open" binary form of GitHub is annoying. That's something that Launchpad got right, issue states at a glance.
 @UniversalSuperBox, lp still lacked some stuff there. github has nothing. i'm not sure what gitlab has. and JIRA is great for masochists
 Github has the kanban system, though, which we use to say when things are in QA
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/projects/3
 hm?
 Just to clarify: … * QA -> Quality assurance … * Q&A -> Questions & Answers (Live show)
 @Fuseteam, That for me? I'd like to PM you about things pertaining to my questions earlier
 oh right, at least it has a kanban i guess, but ick
 And no, I don't barge on PMs anyone who's about to ask
 the fact it's not integrated with the issue tracking is not nice
 Well, it is
 We have automation that moves things to QA after they're closed
 oki feel free to do so 😆
 lol
 And the status of an issue in the board is shown on the issue
 @UniversalSuperBox, right, but the status of the issue on the kanban is not visible in the issue itself. so it's not integrated.
 ye it is
 is it?
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/296
 (Photo, 367x494) https://irc.ubports.com/T4r0tLZG.png
 Now, that bar isn't how far the issue is along the board
 ohw i think rodney was reffering to the issue list under........issues lol
 It's how far the project is to completion
 it's also a really tiny bit of text to look for amongst all the noise on the issue page
 compared to the massive red [CLOSED] badge right under the issue title.
 anyway, i guess moaning about github is offtopic :)
 @Fuseteam, well, issue list, searches, etc
 haha true