| tsimonq2 | Would anyone (cjwatson?) happen to know how lp:ubuntu-sponsoring is deployed? | 04:03 |
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| tsimonq2 | I'd like to convert it to Git. | 04:03 |
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| cjwatson | tsimonq2: Haven't the foggiest | 06:06 |
| tsimonq2 | cjwatson: Do you know where I can find who knows? :P | 06:08 |
| cjwatson | tsimonq2: Nope | 06:10 |
| tsimonq2 | cjwatson: Mkay, thanks anyway. | 06:11 |
| Unit193 | Achievement unlocked: Found something cjwatson doesn't know. | 06:11 |
| tsimonq2 | ^ | 06:12 |
| cjwatson | Heh | 06:13 |
| cjwatson | I'd start by asking people who've committed to that branch | 06:13 |
| cjwatson | (and who are still around) | 06:14 |
| tsimonq2 | If Laney or bdmurray don't know, I *think* I still have a way to contact dholbach, if he remembers. | 06:16 |
| tsimonq2 | Otherwise I just about cut the sponsoring queue in half, and I plan on going further tomorrowish, but I want to eventually (but slowly, ELITTLETIME) work on refining the queue in general. | 06:19 |
| Mirv | smoser: wow, huge thanks for pdftk snap, and thanks to command-not-found patchers who have added snap support :D | 06:31 |
| wxl | whoa pdftk snap. cool. | 06:31 |
| Mirv | I was like "nooo, gone in bionic" | 06:31 |
| Mirv | but snap saved | 06:31 |
| Mirv | apparently it doesn't build with GCC 7 | 06:32 |
| Mirv | but in my use case I have a note that eg pdfjoin tool breaks hyperlinks, pdftk does what I want | 06:32 |
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| Laney | tsimonq2: Well done on your work there. It's probably a cron script on some machine. I could find out if necessary - but is it that important to switch it? | 08:15 |
| tsimonq2 | Laney: bzr is painfully slow, even with a wrapper. | 08:18 |
| tsimonq2 | And thanks. | 08:18 |
| Laney | what is painfully slow about it? | 08:19 |
| tsimonq2 | Pushing/pulling. | 08:19 |
| Laney | You plan to do a lot of that on the sponsoring queue? | 08:19 |
| tsimonq2 | I plan on working on it a bit, yeah. | 08:19 |
| Laney | And pushing it *that* often? | 08:21 |
| tsimonq2 | We're talking five seconds vs 30. | 08:21 |
| tsimonq2 | I push frequently enough to make it annoying. | 08:22 |
| Laney | But even at a 25 second deficit, how often are you planning to push the spnosor queue's branch? | 08:22 |
| Laney | It's probably pulled from trunk with each run, so you should only be pushing things you actually want to deploy ... | 08:22 |
| tsimonq2 | I don't know if I can give you a quantitative value. | 08:22 |
| tsimonq2 | And that's yet another advantage of Git, multiple branches. | 08:23 |
| Laney | I understand the differences between the two. | 08:23 |
| Laney | I'm challenging the benefit gained by someone having to go find out how this is deployed and update that to work with git, when the project is not active at all. | 08:24 |
| tsimonq2 | I guess I personally see the ROI for someone taking maybe 5 minutes to reclone a repo and sed a crontab. | 08:25 |
| tsimonq2 | It costs more overhead to continue using Bazaar than to switch it. | 08:25 |
| rbasak | It does make it easier for others to contribute to | 10:14 |
| rbasak | It's much more of a pain trying to remember how to do things with bzr at least. And then there are all the things that you can't do easily (eg. squash) | 10:15 |
| Unit193 | But rbasak! Brz is cool. | 10:15 |
| Unit193 | !info brz | 10:15 |
| ubottu | brz (source: breezy): easy to use distributed version control system. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.0~bzr6852-1 (bionic), package size 36 kB, installed size 72 kB | 10:15 |
| Unit193 | There is one feature I like in bzr, lp-propose. Though it is known to have unexpected results. | 10:16 |
| rbasak | IIRC sparkiegeek (not here) has a git replacement equivalent for LP for that? | 10:20 |
| Unit193 | That sounds shiny. | 10:31 |
| cjwatson | rbasak: snap info gitlptools | 10:38 |
| rbasak | Thanks! | 10:40 |
| rbasak | Unit193: ^ | 10:40 |
| Unit193 | Is there a source for that? | 10:40 |
| rbasak | https://launchpad.net/gitlptools it loos like | 10:40 |
| Unit193 | Hmm, no tags.. | 10:42 |
| Unit193 | tsimonq2: Looks like something you might want to know about, and package. | 10:45 |
| smoser | Mirv: thanks for sharing. Would you upvote https://askubuntu.com/questions/1028522/how-can-i-install-pdftk-in-ubuntu-18-04-bionic ? | 12:17 |
| smoser | unless you honestly think that shell-script-blob (currently the top aswer) is a better way of distributing software :) | 12:18 |
| Mirv | smoser: upvoted the snap one, yes I think it should be on the top... | 13:07 |
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| bdmurray | tsimonq2: What was the original question? | 14:56 |
| bdmurray | rbasak: Are you familiar with postgresql or is there somebody else on the server team I should ping? | 17:12 |
| ahasenack | bdmurray: what's up? Maybe I can help, rbasak and cpaelzer are eod | 17:58 |
| ahasenack | cpaelzer prepared the recent postgresql sru | 17:59 |
| bdmurray | ahasenack: its about postgresql and release upgrades. postgresql is in the release upgrader blacklist b/c of bug 871893 and I wonder if its still relevant. | 18:00 |
| ubottu | bug 871893 in update-manager (Ubuntu Oneiric) "After upgrading postgresql-databases are not accessible any more" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/871893 | 18:00 |
| bdmurray | see also bug 1787349 | 18:01 |
| ubottu | bug 1787349 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "postgresql-plperl-9.5 blocks do-release-upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1787349 | 18:01 |
| ahasenack | that's from 2011 | 18:01 |
| ahasenack | I have no idea | 18:02 |
| bdmurray | Okay, I'll email ubuntu-devel | 18:03 |
| jbicha | slangasek: https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running is outdated, I triggered those cmake/gnutls runs last night | 18:03 |
| cpaelzer | bdmurray: I neither hae background on this postgres thing | 18:34 |
| cpaelzer | this was all in the time pitti cared for it | 18:34 |
| cpaelzer | bdmurray: you should set him to CC on this mail | 18:35 |
| cpaelzer | maybe he can shed some light | 18:35 |
| Unit193 | sbeattie: Thanks for the sponsorship. | 20:15 |
| sbeattie | Unit193: you're welcome, thanks for preparing the update! | 20:49 |
| tsimonq2 | bdmurray: Where's lp:ubuntu-sponsoring deployed? | 22:09 |
| bdmurray | tsimonq2: you mean the name of the server? | 22:13 |
| tsimonq2 | bdmurray: Right; that, and how it's deployed. I'd like to convert it to Git. | 22:14 |
| tsimonq2 | bdmurray: I can do the conversion, I just need someone with access to button push. | 22:15 |
| bdmurray | tsimonq2: Its on cranberry and laney and I, and some others, have access. | 22:20 |
| rbasak | Are you sure it's on cranberry? | 22:24 |
| rbasak | Not rootstock? | 22:25 |
| tsimonq2 | There, it's converted: https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu-sponsoring | 22:26 |
| bdmurray | rbasak: yes | 22:26 |
| rbasak | Oh. OK | 22:26 |
| rbasak | bdmurray: what does it run as, OOI? | 22:27 |
| rbasak | Ah | 22:27 |
| rbasak | ubuntureports | 22:27 |
| rbasak | I see it. Nice to know, thanks. | 22:27 |
| bdmurray | rbasak: Yeah, I guess you have access too. | 22:28 |
| rbasak | Yes | 22:28 |
| rbasak | Though I won't push any buttons without others telling me that's OK :) | 22:29 |
| rbasak | (since my access is only incidental to other stuff) | 22:30 |
| tsimonq2 | I guess not being a Canonical employee there's no way for me to have access, correct? | 22:30 |
| rbasak | Though I was left with co-adminship of ~ubuntu-sponsors at one point | 22:30 |
| bdmurray | I haven't looked at it in so long as it is... | 22:31 |
| rbasak | tsimonq2: I assume so, since it's shell access on some Canonical infrastructure. | 22:31 |
| rbasak | Though presumably all the actual code that's running is in the public repo | 22:31 |
| tsimonq2 | I would even argue that https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-sponsoring should be "maintained" by ~ubuntu-sponsors, not ~ubuntu-dev, because anyone from ~ubuntu-dev can join ~ubuntu-sponsors, and I'd argue that you should be sponsoring things to get commit access to the associated infra. | 22:32 |
| tsimonq2 | bdmurray, rbasak: If you both agree, it's a flip of a switch. Otherwise I can ask for more wider feedback on e.g. ubuntu-devel. | 22:33 |
| tsimonq2 | rbasak: Canonical infra> ack. | 22:33 |
| rbasak | tsimonq2: I have no objection. Though I think peer review might be a good idea (or at least the opportunity; if nobody objects after a while then we shouldn't cause policy to enforce blocking progress) | 22:34 |
| tsimonq2 | rbasak: Peer review on the policy change or code changes in general? | 22:35 |
| rbasak | On code changes in general | 22:35 |
| tsimonq2 | Sure. | 22:35 |
| tsimonq2 | I know dholbach drove that for a while, but I've just been making commits that seem useful. | 22:36 |
| tsimonq2 | With Git, this will become much easier to just put commits in feature branches. :) | 22:36 |
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