| === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash | ||
| === benonsoftware is now known as bdw | ||
| === rso0016 is now known as rso16 | ||
| pirx | has anyone installed any graphical effects in xubuntu/xfce? stuff like fading in/out windows when they open/close? | 18:49 |
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| pirx | i think that "desktop visual effects" is what i am looking for | 18:51 |
| pirx | i mean, i like that xfce is to lean and fast, but if i could install a few effects and still have it almost as fast, i wouldnt mind:) | 18:53 |
| Spass | pirx, nope I did not, maybe with other WM you might be able to do stuff like that. compton? | 18:53 |
| Spass | you can take a look at Enso OS, it's basically very customized Xubuntu with Gala WM instead of Xfwm - https://enso-os.site/ | 18:54 |
| Spass | but from my experience the window effects are not worth it, they use visibly more CPU, I think I prefer my desktop as fast as possible, without the "wobbly windows" and stuff like that :) been there, done that | 18:57 |
| diogenes_ | pirx, you can use compiz, lots of cool effects and animations and almost no impact on cpu | 18:58 |
| Spass | compiz works good with Xfce? | 18:59 |
| pirx | Spass: will check out enso, thanks! | 19:00 |
| diogenes_ | Spass, it works excellent, actually that's the first thing i ever install on a new fresh os install | 19:00 |
| pirx | diogenes_: will check out that first:) | 19:00 |
| pirx | thanks! | 19:00 |
| Spass | pirx, be aware that Enso is in beta state, you'll probably encounter few bugs | 19:01 |
| Spass | diogenes_, cool, good to know | 19:01 |
| diogenes_ | Spass, yeah, it has all the features one could think of, in the past i liked the effects, the 3d windows effect, the 3d sphere and so on, but nowadays i use it mainly because of 3 things, 1. excellent screen enhanced magnifier (that is absolutely necessary for me) 2. window rules, specify the size and the place that application should appear on the screen 3. no screen tearing. | 19:05 |
| === cruxeter is now known as cruxeternus | ||
| tomreyn | hi. i'm running xubuntu 18.04 (upgraded from 16.04). when i login on gdm , what happens is that xubuntu starts on tty2, while gdm continues running on tty1. is this normal? | 22:47 |
| brainwash | tomreyn: but it works fine with lightdm? | 23:00 |
| tomreyn | brainwash: haven't tried. i switched to gdm while still on 16.04.5 since lightdm wouldnt ask me for a password when i returned to the screen after long absence | 23:02 |
| brainwash | a password for the login screen? | 23:03 |
| brainwash | not sure if I understand that part | 23:03 |
| tomreyn | right, there was no login screen then (only on initial boot) | 23:03 |
| tomreyn | it apparently faield to lock the screen properly, reacticating the screen after longer absence just meant i was logged in immediatley and continued where i had left off, no password prompt. | 23:04 |
| tomreyn | which i didnt feel so comfortable with. ;) | 23:04 |
| brainwash | my guess would be that gdm is running with wayland as backend | 23:05 |
| tomreyn | but that's not what i'm asking now | 23:05 |
| tomreyn | iguess, so, too, yes | 23:05 |
| brainwash | you can configure gdm to use xorg instead | 23:05 |
| brainwash | that's what I would test | 23:06 |
| tomreyn | yes i could do this. i'm just wondering how its supposed to work | 23:06 |
| brainwash | the configuring? | 23:06 |
| tomreyn | no, how xubuntu 18.04 is supposed to login by default | 23:07 |
| tomreyn | someone probably tested xubuntu on 18.04 before release, and made a plan about how things should be configured. | 23:07 |
| brainwash | but xubuntu uses lightdm by default | 23:08 |
| brainwash | and lightdm has no wayland support | 23:08 |
| tomreyn | i see | 23:08 |
| tomreyn | well, maybe i'll just give it another try. | 23:08 |
| brainwash | please do | 23:08 |
| tomreyn | i dont trust it too much due to this 'mishap' about lack of screen locking | 23:09 |
| tomreyn | and similar bugs it had in the past | 23:09 |
| brainwash | xubuntu relies on light-locker for screen locking. light-locker utilizes lightdm. | 23:10 |
| tomreyn | so you're saying that screen locking with xubuntu on top of gdm cant work? | 23:11 |
| brainwash | not sure | 23:12 |
| tomreyn | well it does for me. | 23:13 |
| tomreyn | i'll try lightdm now | 23:14 |
| brainwash | install it with the lightdm-gtk-greeter | 23:17 |
| tomreyn | i already had both installed, lightdm and lightdm-gtk-greeter | 23:18 |
| brainwash | alright | 23:18 |
| tomreyn | so locking seems to work, at leats when initiated manually | 23:19 |
| tomreyn | just the entire thing now runs on tty7, no longer on 1 and 2 | 23:19 |
| tomreyn | but i guess that's fine, as long as locking will contineu to work. | 23:19 |
| tomreyn | thanks for your time. | 23:19 |
| brainwash | you're welcome | 23:20 |
| tomreyn | hmm no, still the same problem. | 23:28 |
| tomreyn | when i dont use the computer for a while, it blanks then screen, then puts the screen to power saving, but it never locks it. | 23:29 |
| tomreyn | http://i.imgur.com/jaZsr4B.png | 23:30 |
| Spass | tomreyn, maybe check your xfce4-power-manager-settings on last tab | 23:30 |
| Spass | oh.. | 23:30 |
| tomreyn | see above | 23:30 |
| tomreyn | the other relevant tab looks like this http://i.imgur.com/RCGkdk4.png | 23:31 |
| Spass | tomreyn, does the "xflock4" command work properly? | 23:32 |
| tomreyn | yes. it spawns the locvk screen. so does manual locking via the menu. | 23:32 |
| tomreyn | manually via actions menu also works. | 23:33 |
| tomreyn | ctrl-alt-l, too. | 23:34 |
| tomreyn | just screen saver initiated locking fails. | 23:34 |
| Spass | it spawns gdm or lightdm? | 23:35 |
| tomreyn | i get the blueish background, i think this is light-lockers' own screen. | 23:35 |
| tomreyn | the session is initiated via lightdm now, if that's what you'Re asking | 23:36 |
| brainwash | bummer | 23:39 |
| tomreyn | does anyone of you run xubuntu on 18.04 then? | 23:40 |
| tomreyn | it'd be nice to know whether this is a general issue or more likely a matter of local configuration changes. | 23:41 |
| brainwash | I can test in a VM | 23:41 |
| tomreyn | hmm i could actually do this, too, so no need thanks. | 23:41 |
| Spass | it works fine on my 18.04 install, on my laptop | 23:42 |
| tomreyn | fresh install? | 23:42 |
| Spass | yes | 23:42 |
| tomreyn | okay, so not generally an issue, good. | 23:43 |
| Spass | will check on my desktop now, it's upgraded from 17.10 | 23:43 |
| brainwash | tested it. works. | 23:43 |
| brainwash | with your settings | 23:43 |
| Spass | works fine on my desktop too | 23:45 |
| tomreyn | thanks for testing, you two! since i had the ssme issue on 16.04, i assume there would be a bit more discussion on this if it was a general issue on both 16.04 and 18.04. so the likely explanation is that it's due to some local modifications i may have made. | 23:45 |
| tomreyn | so you waited for it to go to sleep automatically, didnt lock yourself, right? | 23:45 |
| brainwash | yes, 1min | 23:45 |
| brainwash | + the 10sec delay | 23:46 |
| tomreyn | okay, i should probably try a new user account | 23:46 |
| brainwash | I was about to suggest that :) | 23:46 |
| Spass | yeah I waited too | 23:47 |
| tomreyn | ty | 23:47 |
| tomreyn | and ttyl, got to leave for a bit... | 23:48 |
| brainwash | killall light-locker; light-locker --debug | 23:48 |
| brainwash | will give some debug output | 23:48 |
| tomreyn | killall light-locker tells me that: light-locker: no process found | 23:51 |
| brainwash | uhm | 23:51 |
| brainwash | it should be running | 23:51 |
| brainwash | there should be an autostart entry for it | 23:52 |
| brainwash | settings > startup and blabla > autostart | 23:53 |
| tomreyn | yes, there is "Screen Locker (Launch screen locker program)", mouseover: "Command: light-locker" listed and ticked. | 23:55 |
| tomreyn | that's in session and Startup -> Appolication Autostart. | 23:56 |
| brainwash | right | 23:56 |
| tomreyn | but it's not running | 23:56 |
| brainwash | not even initially? | 23:57 |
| brainwash | it could be that it crashes at some point later | 23:57 |
| brainwash | starting it manually works? | 23:57 |
| tomreyn | yes, running "light-locker --debug" from a GNU screen works | 23:58 |
| tomreyn | oh, but | 23:58 |
| tomreyn | ...then it fails | 23:58 |
| brainwash | interesting | 23:58 |
| brainwash | probably something for ubuntu-bug | 23:59 |
| tomreyn | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4vrFHXvHWb/ | 23:59 |
| tomreyn | bbl | 23:59 |
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