=== brainwash_ is now known as brainwash === benonsoftware is now known as bdw === rso0016 is now known as rso16 [18:49] has anyone installed any graphical effects in xubuntu/xfce? stuff like fading in/out windows when they open/close? [18:51] i think that "desktop visual effects" is what i am looking for [18:53] i mean, i like that xfce is to lean and fast, but if i could install a few effects and still have it almost as fast, i wouldnt mind:) [18:53] pirx, nope I did not, maybe with other WM you might be able to do stuff like that. compton? [18:54] you can take a look at Enso OS, it's basically very customized Xubuntu with Gala WM instead of Xfwm - https://enso-os.site/ [18:57] but from my experience the window effects are not worth it, they use visibly more CPU, I think I prefer my desktop as fast as possible, without the "wobbly windows" and stuff like that :) been there, done that [18:58] pirx, you can use compiz, lots of cool effects and animations and almost no impact on cpu [18:59] compiz works good with Xfce? [19:00] Spass: will check out enso, thanks! [19:00] Spass, it works excellent, actually that's the first thing i ever install on a new fresh os install [19:00] diogenes_: will check out that first:) [19:00] thanks! [19:01] pirx, be aware that Enso is in beta state, you'll probably encounter few bugs [19:01] diogenes_, cool, good to know [19:05] Spass, yeah, it has all the features one could think of, in the past i liked the effects, the 3d windows effect, the 3d sphere and so on, but nowadays i use it mainly because of 3 things, 1. excellent screen enhanced magnifier (that is absolutely necessary for me) 2. window rules, specify the size and the place that application should appear on the screen 3. no screen tearing. === cruxeter is now known as cruxeternus [22:47] hi. i'm running xubuntu 18.04 (upgraded from 16.04). when i login on gdm , what happens is that xubuntu starts on tty2, while gdm continues running on tty1. is this normal? [23:00] tomreyn: but it works fine with lightdm? [23:02] brainwash: haven't tried. i switched to gdm while still on 16.04.5 since lightdm wouldnt ask me for a password when i returned to the screen after long absence [23:03] a password for the login screen? [23:03] not sure if I understand that part [23:03] right, there was no login screen then (only on initial boot) [23:04] it apparently faield to lock the screen properly, reacticating the screen after longer absence just meant i was logged in immediatley and continued where i had left off, no password prompt. [23:04] which i didnt feel so comfortable with. ;) [23:05] my guess would be that gdm is running with wayland as backend [23:05] but that's not what i'm asking now [23:05] iguess, so, too, yes [23:05] you can configure gdm to use xorg instead [23:06] that's what I would test [23:06] yes i could do this. i'm just wondering how its supposed to work [23:06] the configuring? [23:07] no, how xubuntu 18.04 is supposed to login by default [23:07] someone probably tested xubuntu on 18.04 before release, and made a plan about how things should be configured. [23:08] but xubuntu uses lightdm by default [23:08] and lightdm has no wayland support [23:08] i see [23:08] well, maybe i'll just give it another try. [23:08] please do [23:09] i dont trust it too much due to this 'mishap' about lack of screen locking [23:09] and similar bugs it had in the past [23:10] xubuntu relies on light-locker for screen locking. light-locker utilizes lightdm. [23:11] so you're saying that screen locking with xubuntu on top of gdm cant work? [23:12] not sure [23:13] well it does for me. [23:14] i'll try lightdm now [23:17] install it with the lightdm-gtk-greeter [23:18] i already had both installed, lightdm and lightdm-gtk-greeter [23:18] alright [23:19] so locking seems to work, at leats when initiated manually [23:19] just the entire thing now runs on tty7, no longer on 1 and 2 [23:19] but i guess that's fine, as long as locking will contineu to work. [23:19] thanks for your time. [23:20] you're welcome [23:28] hmm no, still the same problem. [23:29] when i dont use the computer for a while, it blanks then screen, then puts the screen to power saving, but it never locks it. [23:30] http://i.imgur.com/jaZsr4B.png [23:30] tomreyn, maybe check your xfce4-power-manager-settings on last tab [23:30] oh.. [23:30] see above [23:31] the other relevant tab looks like this http://i.imgur.com/RCGkdk4.png [23:32] tomreyn, does the "xflock4" command work properly? [23:32] yes. it spawns the locvk screen. so does manual locking via the menu. [23:33] manually via actions menu also works. [23:34] ctrl-alt-l, too. [23:34] just screen saver initiated locking fails. [23:35] it spawns gdm or lightdm? [23:35] i get the blueish background, i think this is light-lockers' own screen. [23:36] the session is initiated via lightdm now, if that's what you'Re asking [23:39] bummer [23:40] does anyone of you run xubuntu on 18.04 then? [23:41] it'd be nice to know whether this is a general issue or more likely a matter of local configuration changes. [23:41] I can test in a VM [23:41] hmm i could actually do this, too, so no need thanks. [23:42] it works fine on my 18.04 install, on my laptop [23:42] fresh install? [23:42] yes [23:43] okay, so not generally an issue, good. [23:43] will check on my desktop now, it's upgraded from 17.10 [23:43] tested it. works. [23:43] with your settings [23:45] works fine on my desktop too [23:45] thanks for testing, you two! since i had the ssme issue on 16.04, i assume there would be a bit more discussion on this if it was a general issue on both 16.04 and 18.04. so the likely explanation is that it's due to some local modifications i may have made. [23:45] so you waited for it to go to sleep automatically, didnt lock yourself, right? [23:45] yes, 1min [23:46] + the 10sec delay [23:46] okay, i should probably try a new user account [23:46] I was about to suggest that :) [23:47] yeah I waited too [23:47] ty [23:48] and ttyl, got to leave for a bit... [23:48] killall light-locker; light-locker --debug [23:48] will give some debug output [23:51] killall light-locker tells me that: light-locker: no process found [23:51] uhm [23:51] it should be running [23:52] there should be an autostart entry for it [23:53] settings > startup and blabla > autostart [23:55] yes, there is "Screen Locker (Launch screen locker program)", mouseover: "Command: light-locker" listed and ticked. [23:56] that's in session and Startup -> Appolication Autostart. [23:56] right [23:56] but it's not running [23:57] not even initially? [23:57] it could be that it crashes at some point later [23:57] starting it manually works? [23:58] yes, running "light-locker --debug" from a GNU screen works [23:58] oh, but [23:58] ...then it fails [23:58] interesting [23:59] probably something for ubuntu-bug [23:59] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4vrFHXvHWb/ [23:59] bbl